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Title: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 12:52:56 PM
Howard Dean: I can’t shake the feeling that Obama’s advisors are out of touch with the country
Hot Air ^ | August 22, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT


Skip ahead to 5:00 for the key bit, which has me at a loss. On the one hand, this is the second time in four days that Dean-o is wildly off-message from the White House, which of course is why both CNN and The Hill are trumpeting his remarks here. Intriguing stuff, to be sure. On the other hand, the thrust of what he’s saying is that the White House is out of touch with … progressives. Note to Dean: It ain’t disaffected lefties who are preparing to destroy the Democrats in November. Or am I not giving him enough credit, and this is actually his way of acknowledging, however glancingly, that the White House is out of touch with center-right concerns too? Remember, this is the guy who’s been warning liberals that the 65 percent of Americans who oppose the Ground Zero mosque can’t all be bigots.


http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/22/howard-dean-i-cant-shake-the-feeling-that-obamas-advisors-are-out-of-touch-with-the-country/

________________________ ________________________ ______

You think Howie? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2010, 02:08:49 PM
Howard Dean: I can’t shake the feeling that Obama’s advisors are out of touch with the country
Hot Air ^ | August 22, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT


Skip ahead to 5:00 for the key bit, which has me at a loss. On the one hand, this is the second time in four days that Dean-o is wildly off-message from the White House, which of course is why both CNN and The Hill are trumpeting his remarks here. Intriguing stuff, to be sure. On the other hand, the thrust of what he’s saying is that the White House is out of touch with … progressives. Note to Dean: It ain’t disaffected lefties who are preparing to destroy the Democrats in November. Or am I not giving him enough credit, and this is actually his way of acknowledging, however glancingly, that the White House is out of touch with center-right concerns too? Remember, this is the guy who’s been warning liberals that the 65 percent of Americans who oppose the Ground Zero mosque can’t all be bigots.


http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/22/howard-dean-i-cant-shake-the-feeling-that-obamas-advisors-are-out-of-touch-with-the-country/

________________________ ________________________ ______

You think Howie? ? ? ? ?

I wonder what tipped him off. The $800 billion stimulus bill that resulted in unemployment going up? Maybe it's the complete lack of economic progress since Obama took office?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 03:40:24 PM
Howard Dean: I can’t shake the feeling that Obama’s advisors are out of touch with the country
Hot Air ^ | August 22, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT


Skip ahead to 5:00 for the key bit, which has me at a loss. On the one hand, this is the second time in four days that Dean-o is wildly off-message from the White House, which of course is why both CNN and The Hill are trumpeting his remarks here. Intriguing stuff, to be sure. On the other hand, the thrust of what he’s saying is that the White House is out of touch with … progressives. Note to Dean: It ain’t disaffected lefties who are preparing to destroy the Democrats in November. Or am I not giving him enough credit, and this is actually his way of acknowledging, however glancingly, that the White House is out of touch with center-right concerns too? Remember, this is the guy who’s been warning liberals that the 65 percent of Americans who oppose the Ground Zero mosque can’t all be bigots.


http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/22/howard-dean-i-cant-shake-the-feeling-that-obamas-advisors-are-out-of-touch-with-the-country/

________________________ ________________________ ______

You think Howie? ? ? ? ?

exactly the point that has been expressed many times before

Obama ran as a progressive but he's been governing more like a Republican or at least a centrist

333 - if you agree with the excerpt above then can you tell me which group is supposedly going to "destroy Demcrats" in November?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: tonymctones on August 22, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
exactly the point that has been expressed many times before

Obama ran as a progressive but he's been governing more like a Republican or at least a centrist


333 - if you agree with the excerpt above then can you tell me which group is supposedly going to "destroy Demcrats" in November?
LOL see its comments like this that make you lose credibility(not that you had any left)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2010, 05:05:19 PM
LOL see its comments like this that make you lose credibility(not that you had any left)

Tell me about it.  Obama governing like a Republican??  That is laugh out loud funny.   :)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 05:06:10 PM
Straw - this article sums it up best.  

http://weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-four-disasters

BTW - he ran in the primary as a far left progressive, whatever that means, and as a centrist in the genrral.  He is governing as a lunatic.  
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 06:10:25 PM
Howard Dean: I can’t shake the feeling that Obama’s advisors are out of touch with the country
Hot Air ^ | August 22, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT


Note to Dean: It ain’t disaffected lefties who are preparing to destroy the Democrats in November. ________________________ ________________________ ______

You think Howie? ? ? ? ?

if it "ain't disaffected lefties".......then which group does this guy think is going to "destroy" Democrats in November?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 06:22:38 PM
if it "ain't disaffected lefties".......then which group does this guy think is going to "destroy" Democrats in November?

Those who typically turn out in mid terms - the older, more informed, whiter, and conscious voters. 

I read that there are 43 districts where the dems have a seat that was won by mccain that the dems think they will lose.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 06:28:17 PM
Those who typically turn out in mid terms - the older, more informed, whiter, and conscious voters. 

I read that there are 43 districts where the dems have a seat that was won by mccain that the dems think they will lose.

so the "older, more informed (lol), whiter and conscious (?) voters" are not dissafected lefties"

so who are they ........ Republicans?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: tonymctones on August 22, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
so the "older, more informed (lol), whiter and conscious (?) voters" are not dissafected lefties"

so who are they ........ Republicans?
LMAO they are everybody...they are independents, republicans and yes straw believe it or not some dems as well...

you see what you fail to realize is that you are indeed a far left person...independents look like neo cons to you...

so to you its suprising when independents dont like the moves this administration has made but its a fact...
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
LMAO they are everybody...they are independents, republicans and yes straw believe it or not some dems as well...

you see what you fail to realize is that you are indeed a far left person...independents look like neo cons to you...

so to you its suprising when independents dont like the moves this administration has made but its a fact...

well the witer of that blurb that 333 posted said it wasn't dissafected lefties so who's left?

granted, some independent (disaffected Repubs?) may vote Republican but by and large the rest of the group are the same people who voted Republican in the last election.   How'd that one turn out?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 06:51:21 PM
well the witer of that blurb that 333 posted said it wasn't dissafected lefties so who's left?

granted, some independent (disaffected Repubs?) may vote Republican but by and large the rest of the group are the same people who voted Republican in the last election.   How'd that one turn out?


1994 redux
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: tonymctones on August 22, 2010, 07:15:56 PM
well the witer of that blurb that 333 posted said it wasn't dissafected lefties so who's left?

granted, some independent (disaffected Repubs?) may vote Republican but by and large the rest of the group are the same people who voted Republican in the last election.   How'd that one turn out?
LOL right...only some independents are not happy with the administration and congress....hmmm

again its statements like that which cause you to lose credibility...
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Skip8282 on August 22, 2010, 07:18:21 PM

1994 redux


Doesn't feel that way.  Republicans need a more cohesive message.  "Health care bill" sucks just isn't going to cut it and that's a good example.  It's been enacted and repeal isn't going to happen - even if they win every seat up for grabs.  So, they need to put out an agenda outlining specific initiatives and solutions and a path for the future.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 07:27:14 PM

Doesn't feel that way.  Republicans need a more cohesive message.  "Health care bill" sucks just isn't going to cut it and that's a good example.  It's been enacted and repeal isn't going to happen - even if they win every seat up for grabs.  So, they need to put out an agenda outlining specific initiatives and solutions and a path for the future.

I'm listening to Charlie Cook on the radio right now who is regarded as the most accurate pollster on these mid terms there is.  He said the gop does not have to put out a plan and will most likely take the house and come up a seat or two short of the senate but take it in 2012 without a doubt. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Skip8282 on August 22, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
I'm listening to Charlie Cook on the radio right now who is regarded as the most accurate pollster on these mid terms there is.  He said the gop does not have to put out a plan and will most likely take the house and come up a seat or two short of the senate but take it in 2012 without a doubt. 


I think they need to net 39 seats to get control and there's like 40-45?? or so that are really toss-ups.  Seems more likely it's just not going to happen without a strong Republican message.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 07:43:23 PM

I think they need to net 39 seats to get control and there's like 40-45?? or so that are really toss-ups.  Seems more likely it's just not going to happen without a strong Republican message.  Just my opinion.

He said the gop could get to 55 seats if the trend continues since the dems hold 43 seats that mccain won in 2008 that the dems think are probably gone. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 07:46:08 PM

1994 redux

I'm sure you know that most prognosticators agree that the POTUS's party usually loses seats in the first midterm election after a new Presidential election

I think the Dems will do a lot better than anyone expects (I'm sure you won't agree with that).
You have to keep in mind that Republican candiates, for the most part, suck and many are moronic idealouges with no broad base appeal

Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2010, 08:30:07 PM
I almost think it might be better for the Dems to retain their majorities in this election. That way, there will be zero excuses for why they destroyed the economy come 2012.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
I almost think it might be better for the Dems to retain their majorities in this election. That way, there will be zero excuses for why they destroyed the economy come 2012.

good idea

don't forget to vote for the Dems in November and tell your friends to do the same
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2010, 08:33:56 PM

1994 redux

whats your prediction?  Will repubs take either or both congress?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2010, 08:34:17 PM
good idea

don't forget to vote for the Dems in November and tell your friends to do the same

No, thanks. Richard Blumenthal has been exposed for a fake soldier, a chronic liar and a scumbag. I wouldn't be able to live with myself after voting for a scumbag of that magnitude.



Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: tonymctones on August 22, 2010, 08:35:37 PM
I'm sure you know that most prognosticators agree that the POTUS's party usually loses seats in the first midterm election after a new Presidential election

I think the Dems will do a lot better than anyone expects (I'm sure you won't agree with that).
You have to keep in mind that Republican candiates, for the most part, suck and many are moronic idealouges with no broad base appeal
without a doubt but everyone has seen what the dems have done and those shitty candidates look alot better than the incumbants  ;)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
whats your prediction?  Will repubs take either or both congress?

+45 in the house +7 in the Senate. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
without a doubt but everyone has seen what the dems have done and those shitty candidates look alot better than the incumbants  ;)

perhaps

but another perspective is that the Dems look shitty but the new Republican challengers looks alot worse

that's what I think will happen but time will tell

there is still plenty of time for either party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory  (John McCain managed to do it in a matter of days)

Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2010, 08:40:48 PM
No, thanks. Richard Blumenthal has been exposed for a fake soldier, a chronic liar and a scumbag. I wouldn't be able to live with myself after voting for a scumbag of that magnitude.





I sure hope they don't put that liar in the senate.  
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
+45 in the house +7 in the Senate.  

I think it'll be more like +30 and +4.  I guess we'll see.  

I know everyone hates the incumbents... but I think putting in so many far-right candidates will backfire.  More moderate candidates will do better in November.  

Palin is 0 for 5 this month.  The news about healthcare isn't fresh anymore... now it's race stuff and the GZ mosque stuff.  That stuff doesn't affect people as much as healthcare.  It'll serve obama well to make the focus a story like this, instead of major meaningful stuff like amnesty, cap/trade and obamacare.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
I sure hope they don't put that liar in the senate.  

CT bleeds blue. Last I saw he had an undeserved, but quite sizable lead, over McMahon.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2010, 08:44:29 PM
CT bleeds blue. Last I saw he had an undeserved, but quite sizable lead, over McMahon.

Shameful.  If he gets elected they should make him share an office with Al Franken. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: MCWAY on August 23, 2010, 05:50:54 AM

Doesn't feel that way.  Republicans need a more cohesive message.  "Health care bill" sucks just isn't going to cut it and that's a good example.  It's been enacted and repeal isn't going to happen - even if they win every seat up for grabs.  So, they need to put out an agenda outlining specific initiatives and solutions and a path for the future.

Actually, they don't necessarily need that. The Dems didn't have an agenda or solutions in 2006, when they swept the Republicans out of the House and Senate.

Of course, having such certainly helps. And, the GOP will likely have their message ready, come mid/late September. In the meantime, they'll sit back and watch the Dems shoot themselves in the feet.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 06:00:15 AM
I think it'll be more like +30 and +4.  I guess we'll see.  

I know everyone hates the incumbents... but I think putting in so many far-right candidates will backfire.  More moderate candidates will do better in November.  

Palin is 0 for 5 this month.  The news about healthcare isn't fresh anymore... now it's race stuff and the GZ mosque stuff.  That stuff doesn't affect people as much as healthcare.  It'll serve obama well to make the focus a story like this, instead of major meaningful stuff like amnesty, cap/trade and obamacare.

ObamaCare and the Stim Bill are as unpopular as ever 240.  Wake the hell up bro.   
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 06:13:03 AM
Tell me about it.  Obama governing like a Republican??  That is laugh out loud funny.   :)
Well he certainly hasn't done jack shit to appease the left, that's for sure...  He most certainly has not been the leftist Fox News paints him as daily.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 06:16:01 AM
Well he certainly hasn't done jack shit to appease the left, that's for sure...  He most certainly has not been the leftist Fox News paints him as daily.

He has governed on behalf of those who put him there, and guess what Hugo - it was not blacken, Straw, yourself, mons, chad, or benny. 

 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 10:26:49 AM
He has governed on behalf of those who put him there, and guess what Hugo - it was not blacken, Straw, yourself, mons, chad, or benny.  

  
3333, slow down some.  You don't have to reply to every post on the forum lol...  This forum now feels like a continuous conversation with 3333 rather than everybody talking about shit.  When I reply to someone else, there's a good chance the reply comes from you.

What you just said is true but I doubt you understand what it means or the full ramifications of it.  You probably think the right is immune lol.  When the ball is tossed your way and it's coming soon, I doubt you're going to act any different, infact you've giving every indication here that you won't.  So lets end the hypocrisy.  You'll play ball the same way.  We're going to keep up with this bullshit cycle until we no longer give a shit or are dead in the ground.  If you think otherwise then step up, grow some nuts and start fucking posting on that. On the other hand if you just live for your daily owning of Blacken, Straw bla bla bla, then go on with what ever makes you happy.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
3333, slow down some.  You don't have to reply to every post on the forum lol...  This forum now feels like a continuous conversation with 3333 rather than everybody talking about shit.  When I reply to someone else, there's a good chance the reply comes from you.

What you just said is true but I doubt you understand what it means or the full ramifications of it.  You probably think the right is immune lol.  When the ball is tossed your way and it's coming soon, I doubt you're going to act any different, infact you've giving every indication here that you won't.  So lets end the hypocrisy.  You'll play ball the same way.  We're going to keep up with this bullshit cycle until we no longer give a shit or are dead in the ground.  If you think otherwise then step up, grow some nuts and start fucking posting on that. On the other hand if you just live for your daily owning of Blacken, Straw bla bla bla, then go on with what ever makes you happy.

If the GOP does not:

1.  Cut Spending DRASTICALLY
2.  Pursue a repeal of ObamaCare
3.  Reign in the EPA 
4.  Cut the vagina off of Obama

I will be on them like white on rice as well. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 10:52:57 AM
If the GOP does not:

1.  Cut Spending DRASTICALLY
2.  Pursue a repeal of ObamaCare
3.  Reign in the EPA 
4.  Cut the vagina off of Obama

I will be on them like white on rice as well. 
I rest my case, you're as clueless I as said.  And I'm not remotely what you suggest in your reply to me for BB.  Continue what whatever makes you happy.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 10:57:39 AM
I rest my case, you're as clueless I as said.  And I'm not remotely what you suggest in your reply to me for BB.  Continue what whatever makes you happy.

Sorry Hugo - people are not into a "progressive" agenda.   This is a figment of the imagination of those on the left.  Anyone would have beat McCain in 2008 considering the horror that was GWB Second Term.  Obama got the votes of those in the middle and that is what put him over, not the lunatic left. 

Those at DU, FDL, Daily KOS, HP are beyond insane and thing the populace want the reincarnation of Marx and that is simply not the case. 

So Obama has lost the deluded left, the middle, and he never had the right.  So who is he left with?  The hack dem voters, public employees, welfare bums, etc. 

2010 and 2012 - the far left is going to be put to sleep. 
 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
Well he certainly hasn't done jack shit to appease the left, that's for sure...  He most certainly has not been the leftist Fox News paints him as daily.

He most certainly has done plenty to try and appease the left, including but not limited to:

1.  Putting two liberals on the Supreme Court.
2.  Ramming socialized healthcare down the public's throat with no Republican support.
3.  Removing the ban on federal funding of abortions overseas.
4.  Trying to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell.
5.  Massive increase in government spending. 
6.  Running around the world kissing the rear end of other countries to try and shed the "arrogant" label. 
7.  Raising taxes on the "wealthy" by letting the Bush tax cuts expire so he can "spread the wealth around." 

I'm sure 33 or others could add to this list. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 11:50:55 AM
1.  World apology Tour
2.  Sunstein, Holdren, Van Jones, Dunn, et al
3.  KSM trials in NYC
4.  Bash Bush 24/7 


And on and on and on.   Hugo donated money to obama so I understand why he is a little raw considering the utter waste of money that was considering it would have been better spent on diapers.       
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 23, 2010, 12:09:33 PM
Every President and just about every Presidential candidate of the past 30-50 years has sucked.  Save for Ron Paul and a few others .  Howard Dean?  LMAO!  Who the fuck cares what that dumbass thinks anyways?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 12:12:29 PM
Every President and just about every Presidential candidate of the past 30-50 years has sucked.  Save for Ron Paul and a few others .  Howard Dean?  LMAO!  Who the fuck cares what that dumbass thinks anyways?


Howard Dean is relevent because he single handidly helped the Dems craft the 50 state strategy to help the dems re-capture the congress. 

As nutty as he is sometimes he is, I still like him because he does not speak political bs.  I may disagree with him on most everything, but i respect his straight forwardness. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 23, 2010, 12:44:04 PM
Howard Dean is relevent because he single handidly helped the Dems craft the 50 state strategy to help the dems re-capture the congress. 

As nutty as he is sometimes he is, I still like him because he does not speak political bs.  I may disagree with him on most everything, but i respect his straight forwardness. 

The shitty policies of Bush and the republicans are what helped the dems capture Congress, not some pipe dream strategy of a nit wit like Howard Dean. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 02:23:07 PM
bla bla bla...

This about sums it up...  The left is not happy with him.  And he has not done anything to change perceptions for the left since this video was made.  In fact he has continued paths and ideas that are more right leaning than left... Of course you think contrary as Fox and gang have done their work.  I personally have a different view of why this is but you all know my opinion there by now.




The shorter version for BB: (dear god it's 5+minutes :o  hope you manage...)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 02:26:40 PM
bla bla bla...

This about sums it up...  The left is not happy with him.  And he has not done anything to change perceptions for the left since this video was made.  In fact he has continued paths and ideas that are more right leaning than left... Of course you think contrary as Fox and gang have done their work.  I personally have a different view of why this is but you all know my opinion there by now.




The shorter version for BB: (dear god it's 5+minutes :o  hope you manage...)


That video is from over a year ago right?  I can only imagine what he thinks now. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 02:34:57 PM
This next election, I see absolutely no reason to vote for the republican or dem candidate.  I say this not even knowing who the republican candidate will be.  I'll make another no shit prediction.  The biggest third party candidate will be considered a joke. 

WHAT!?!?!?!  How can I say that the next third party candidate will be a joke?  He'll not even be a joke, he'll be an extreme joke in the next presidencial election.  Wait, how can I know this?  Just watch.  With so many turning away from the two major parties in the last several years you would think this would beef up prospects for a decent third party candidate.... just watch and then think about it....  It won't do any good, but just watch..  You'll see.... It's all BS.........
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 02:42:21 PM
Howard Dean is relevent because he single handidly helped the Dems craft the 50 state strategy to help the dems re-capture the congress. 

As nutty as he is sometimes he is, I still like him because he does not speak political bs.  I may disagree with him on most everything, but i respect his straight forwardness. 
That's cool.  I also like his "straigt forwardness"  He has indeed been like that since the start of Obama's presidency.  He's said many things in public that I'm sure do not sit well with Team Obama.  I do disagree that he helped the dems in any way.  Anyway, not the major factor imo...  I think Bush helped the dems more than anything.  In a few years I'll be saying that Obama helped the republicans too lol....
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 02:43:40 PM
This next election, I see absolutely no reason to vote for the republican or dem candidate.  I say this not even knowing who the republican candidate will be.  I'll make another no shit prediction.  The biggest third party candidate will be considered a joke. 

WHAT!?!?!?!  How can I say that the next third party candidate will be a joke?  He'll not even be a joke, he'll be an extreme joke in the next presidencial election.  Wait, how can I know this?  Just watch.  With so many turning away from the two major parties in the last several years you would think this would beef up prospects for a decent third party candidate.... just watch and then think about it....  It won't do any good, but just watch..  You'll see.... It's all BS.........

Check out my thread from yesterday with Dave Mustaine on Alex Jones.   Its pretty good and on this subject.   
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
bla bla bla...

This about sums it up...  The left is not happy with him.  And he has not done anything to change perceptions for the left since this video was made.  In fact he has continued paths and ideas that are more right leaning than left... Of course you think contrary as Fox and gang have done their work.  I personally have a different view of why this is but you all know my opinion there by now.




The shorter version for BB: (dear god it's 5+minutes :o  hope you manage...)


I watched the five minute version.  Big deal.  Some Australian liberal is crying about Obama.  The rank and file liberals are still drinking the Kool-Aid.  I talk to these people.  They are my friends and colleagues.  They still love Obama.   
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Skip8282 on August 23, 2010, 05:27:47 PM
Actually, they don't necessarily need that. The Dems didn't have an agenda or solutions in 2006, when they swept the Republicans out of the House and Senate.

Of course, having such certainly helps. And, the GOP will likely have their message ready, come mid/late September. In the meantime, they'll sit back and watch the Dems shoot themselves in the feet.


Yes, they did.  Meicare reform concerning drugs, getting rid of corruption in Congress, overhauling FEMA, withdrawal from Iraq, raising minimum wage, repealing tax cuts for the rich.  I'm sure I'm leaving some out, but it wasn't a simple "Bush sucks" campaign.

Either Steele needs to get his ass in gear or a shining star needs to come out of the rank and file.  ABO will only get Repubs so far. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 05:47:42 PM
I watched the five minute version.  Big deal.  Some Australian liberal is crying about Obama.  The rank and file liberals are still drinking the Kool-Aid.  I talk to these people.  They are my friends and colleagues.  They still love Obama.  
BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAa... STFU... you keep feeding us this crap about your lib friends and colleagues...  You're off in lala land on some freaking island that people occasionally go to the fuck around and then come back to reality.  As a whole, Hawaii has no clue to what's going on in America.  You fools are in perpetual fantasy land.  Every time I've ever talked politics with a person from Hawaii, I almost always end up thinking, "Huh?, WTF, LOL..." The time I take political wisdom from you will be the same time I seek the opinion of the rabbit laying on my front lawn, not happening....

also don't BS, you didn't watch the video.  I know full well your record for watching videos has not past 4 minutes in length.  So at least tell the truth and say you had enough at 25 seconds....
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAa... STFU... you keep feeding us this crap about your lib friends an colleagues...  You're off in lala land on some freaking island that people occasionally go to the fuck around and then come back to reality.  As a whole, Hawaii has no clue to what's going on in America.  You fools are in perpetual fantasy land.  Every time I've ever talked politics with a person from Hawaii, I almost always end up thinking, "Huh?, WTF, LOL..." The time I take political wisdom from you will be the same time I seek the opinion of the rabbit laying on my front lawn, not happening....

also don't BS, you didn't watch the video.  I know full well your record for watching videos has not past 4 minutes in length.  So at least tell the truth and say you had enough at 25 seconds....

How predictable.  I knew after watching another one of your mind-numbing clips that you would have nothing but insults.   ::) 

Every time you talk politics with a person from Hawaii?  LOL!!  That's rich.   ;D   LOL . . . . Every time you talk to someone from Hawaii about politics (lol) do you wax eloquent about the 911 conspiracy?  Do you tell them about the Rothschilds who are plotting to kill us all? 

Go back to your bunker and wait for the end of the world. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 06:41:46 PM
How predictable.  I knew after watching another one of your mind-numbing clips that you would have nothing but insults.   ::) 

Every time you talk politics with a person from Hawaii?  LOL!!  That's rich.   ;D   LOL . . . . Every time you talk to someone from Hawaii about politics (lol) do you wax eloquent about the 911 conspiracy?  Do you tell them about the Rothschilds who are plotting to kill us all? 

Go back to your bunker and wait for the end of the world. 

It's conspiracy fact to you douchbag.  And you don't have much to back yourself since you are never willing to actually discuss anything.  Yea I'm laughing at Hawaii.  You all are more like Puerto Rico at best...  Just a nicer place to mess around and then come back to reality.  That's all you tiny dots in the pacific have going for you.  At least you could have better food down there but Puerto Rico even beats you there.  I've never been in a bunker assfuck and I never indend to.  When and if the world falls to shit, what the fuck would be the point of a bunker?  I'll stay above ground doing what I do now until someone stops me.  Anytime you wanna try. ;)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
It's conspiracy fact to you douchbag.  And you don't have much to back yourself since you are never willing to actually discuss anything.  Yea I'm laughing at Hawaii.  You all are more like Puerto Rico at best...  Just a nicer place to mess around and then come back to reality.  That's all you tiny dots in the pacific have going for you.  At least you could have better food down there but Puerto Rico even beats you there.  I've never been in a bunker assfuck and I never indend to.  When and if the world falls to shit, what the fuck would be the point of a bunker?  I'll stay above ground doing what I do now until someone stops me.  Anytime you wanna try. ;)

Bahahaha, someone's still living in fantasy land.

Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 06:45:38 PM
Maybe Barry's aloofness has something to do with his being from Hawaii?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 06:47:32 PM
It's conspiracy fact to you douchbag.  And you don't have much to back yourself since you are never willing to actually discuss anything.  Yea I'm laughing at Hawaii.  You all are more like Puerto Rico at best...  Just a nicer place to mess around and then come back to reality.  That's all you tiny dots in the pacific have going for you.  At least you could have better food down there but Puerto Rico even beats you there.  I've never been in a bunker assfuck and I never indend to.  When and if the world falls to shit, what the fuck would be the point of a bunker?  I'll stay above ground doing what I do now until someone stops me.  Anytime you wanna try. ;)

I'm laughing at YOU.  lol . . . .  Next time you talk to someone from Hawaii about politics, tell them I said hi.  lol. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 06:48:19 PM
Maybe Barry's aloofness has something to do with his being from Hawaii?

He didn't learn squat from living here.  He learned his brand of politics from Chicago. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Maybe Barry's aloofness has something to do with his being from Hawaii?
I don't know about that but if Barry was born in Hawaii, he's not REALLY American.  Fuck it, I vote we dump his ass now. ;D  A real birth cert from Hawaii is like a birth cert from the Philippines, who gives a shit lol... :D
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2010, 06:53:02 PM
Hawaii will probably be the only American state to survive the zombie apocalypse. Beach Bum will have the last laugh.
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2010, 06:54:54 PM
Hawaii will probably be the only American state to survive the zombie apocalypse. Beach Bum will have the last laugh.

Word.  Safest place in the country.  I don't think zombies can swim?  Plus we're surrounded by the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines.   :)
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 06:55:41 PM
Hawaii will probably be the only American state to survive the zombie apocalypse. Beach Bum will have the last laugh.

Not true - did you see the Dawn of the Dead remake? 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2010, 06:59:42 PM
Not true - did you see the Dawn of the Dead remake? 

Only the first one in the shopping mall. Was that Hawaii they sailed to at the end?
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2010, 07:08:03 PM
Only the first one in the shopping mall. Was that Hawaii they sailed to at the end?

Don't know, it was a joke.  The remake was good though. 
Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
you fools have no idea of what the mainland has survived:

Witness and don't foget!!!!

Title: Re: Howard Dean: "Obama's advisors are out of touch with the country"
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
Don't know, it was a joke.  The remake was good though. 

Yeah, it was pretty entertaining. I just can't remember where they sailed to at the end. I remember the zombies killing them as they got off the boat, though.

you fools have no idea of what the mainland has survived:

Witness and don't foget!!!!



;D  ;D  ;D