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Canada: Stop Fox News North
Dear Friends,
Prime Minister Harper is trying to push American-style hate media onto our airwaves, and make us all pay for it.
His plan is to create a "Fox News North" to mimic the kind of hate-filled propaganda with which Fox News has poisoned U.S. politics. The channel will be run by Harper’s former top aide and will be funded with money from our cable TV fees!
One man stands in the way of this nightmare -- the Chairman of Canada's Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission Konrad von Finckenstein. He's rejected the plan as a violation of CRTC policies, so now Harper is trying to get him out of the job. Let's urgently send a massive wave of public support to von Finckenstein, with 100,000 Canadians encouraging him to keep standing up for Canada, and standing firm against Harper's pressure. Sign the petition below and forward this notice to everyone -- we'll publish full page ads in Canadian papers when we reach 100,000:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl
Harper hatched his scheme in a secret lunch last year with media-mogul Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News. Harper's top aide Kory Teneycke also came to the lunch, and then left the government to head up Sun Newspapers and the new "Fox News North".
Fox News fuels hate. While constantly claiming to be “fair” and “balanced”, it allows hysterical anchors like Glenn Beck to compare Obama to "Lucifer" and "Hitler". Bill O’Reilly, another anchor, has threatened to boycott Canada, and Anne Coulter says Canada is “lucky the US allows it to exist on the same continent.” The network has calculatingly spawned the tea party movement in the US, a mobilisation of the fringe right which threatens violence upon its opponents and wears guns to political rallies.
This is a fight for the soul of Canadian democracy. Our media is not perfect, but a ‘news’ network that slavishly serves a political agenda through mass manipulation and fear threatens the fabric of our democratic society.
The CRTC is part of our democracy -- it was made an independent commission precisely in order to protect against this kind of government manipulation of the media. Harper knows that he must bully his way through this institution in order to create "Fox News North". And there are dark rumours in Ottawa that if von Finckenstein will not leave his job, Harper will simply force him to give in. Konrad von Finckenstein is upholding the best tradition of Canadian democracy and civil service in the face of a full scale attack on that tradition. Let's show him, and Harper, that Canada stands with him.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl
"Fox News North" is Harper's long term strategy to make radical conservatism the political centre in Canada, tearing down the country we love to make us look like the U.S. Thankfully, Konrad von Finckenstein and the CRTC are standing in his way -- let's stand with them.
With hope,
Ricken, Emma, Iain, Laryn and the rest of the Avaaz team
Sources:
Globe and Mail, “Is Harper set to move against the CRTC?”:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/
CBC, “The absolute last thing this country needs”:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46
Globe and Mail, CRTC refuses Sun TV's bid for preferred status on dial:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/
The Star, “Harper’s foxy luncheon”:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon
Mediaite, “Canada and Ann Coulter: a volatile relationship”:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/
Media Matters, “Glenn Beck compares Obama to Lucifer”:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008040051
Media Matters, “Glenn Beck smears Obama’s 11 year old daughter”:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025
The Examiner: “Bill O’Reilly again confuses facts about Canadian health care system”:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-bill-o-reilly-again-confuses-facts-about-canadian-health-care-system
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Apparently Canadians are too stupid to decide for themselves what cable news networks they should watch. If you are any indicator of the average Canadians intelligence, I think it is wise for an entire team of scientists that specialize in neurology and psychology for the developmentally disabled to screen, monitor and filter every aspect of Canadian life so it doesn't become too "free" and "scary".
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I can understand them not wanting public funding for it or any other political channel/movement, but boo-friggin'-hoo about Beck and the tea partiers.
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good to know freedom of speech is so important to candian liberals...they arent that much different from american liberals I guess :-\
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I assume Canadians have higher standards and don't want a network that freely admits it's nothing more than a propaganda tool for the American Republican Party and Saudi dictators.
too bad some of my fellow Americans suffer from such low self esteem that the wish to be lied to on a daily basis
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I admit that I have a strong homosexual attraction toward Brit Hume, but that doesn't make me gay. I refuse to share him with Canada.
too bad some of my fellow Americans don't suffer from such low self esteem that they wish to be tied up by Brit Hume on a daily basis
QFT
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Canada: Stop Fox News North
Dear Friends,
Prime Minister Harper is trying to push American-style hate media onto our airwaves, and make us all pay for it.
His plan is to create a "Fox News North" to mimic the kind of hate-filled propaganda with which Fox News has poisoned U.S. politics. The channel will be run by Harper’s former top aide and will be funded with money from our cable TV fees!
One man stands in the way of this nightmare -- the Chairman of Canada's Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission Konrad von Finckenstein. He's rejected the plan as a violation of CRTC policies, so now Harper is trying to get him out of the job. Let's urgently send a massive wave of public support to von Finckenstein, with 100,000 Canadians encouraging him to keep standing up for Canada, and standing firm against Harper's pressure. Sign the petition below and forward this notice to everyone -- we'll publish full page ads in Canadian papers when we reach 100,000:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl
Harper hatched his scheme in a secret lunch last year with media-mogul Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News. Harper's top aide Kory Teneycke also came to the lunch, and then left the government to head up Sun Newspapers and the new "Fox News North".
Fox News fuels hate. While constantly claiming to be “fair” and “balanced”, it allows hysterical anchors like Glenn Beck to compare Obama to "Lucifer" and "Hitler". Bill O’Reilly, another anchor, has threatened to boycott Canada, and Anne Coulter says Canada is “lucky the US allows it to exist on the same continent.” The network has calculatingly spawned the tea party movement in the US, a mobilisation of the fringe right which threatens violence upon its opponents and wears guns to political rallies.
This is a fight for the soul of Canadian democracy. Our media is not perfect, but a ‘news’ network that slavishly serves a political agenda through mass manipulation and fear threatens the fabric of our democratic society.
The CRTC is part of our democracy -- it was made an independent commission precisely in order to protect against this kind of government manipulation of the media. Harper knows that he must bully his way through this institution in order to create "Fox News North". And there are dark rumours in Ottawa that if von Finckenstein will not leave his job, Harper will simply force him to give in. Konrad von Finckenstein is upholding the best tradition of Canadian democracy and civil service in the face of a full scale attack on that tradition. Let's show him, and Harper, that Canada stands with him.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl
"Fox News North" is Harper's long term strategy to make radical conservatism the political centre in Canada, tearing down the country we love to make us look like the U.S. Thankfully, Konrad von Finckenstein and the CRTC are standing in his way -- let's stand with them.
With hope,
Ricken, Emma, Iain, Laryn and the rest of the Avaaz team
Sources:
Globe and Mail, “Is Harper set to move against the CRTC?”:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/
CBC, “The absolute last thing this country needs”:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46
Globe and Mail, CRTC refuses Sun TV's bid for preferred status on dial:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/
The Star, “Harper’s foxy luncheon”:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon
Mediaite, “Canada and Ann Coulter: a volatile relationship”:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/
Media Matters, “Glenn Beck compares Obama to Lucifer”:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008040051
Media Matters, “Glenn Beck smears Obama’s 11 year old daughter”:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025
The Examiner: “Bill O’Reilly again confuses facts about Canadian health care system”:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-bill-o-reilly-again-confuses-facts-about-canadian-health-care-system
Support the Avaaz community! We're entirely funded by donations and receive no money from governments or corporations. Our dedicated team ensures even the smallest contributions go a long way -- donate here (https://secure.avaaz.org/).
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your not to happy with freedom of speech up there in canada?
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QFT
altering quotes?
you must want a job with Fox
btw -what is up with you constantly making gay accusations
you seem to do it alot
I assume it's simply projection to cover up your own homosexual feelings
you'd probably feel better if you just came out of the closet
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Let them bring any news channel they want.
let the viewers decide if the channel is worthy of remaining on the air.
They allow channels with porn, gun battles, etc... why hate on the news because of their leaning?
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altering quotes?
you must want a job with Fox
btw -what is up with you constantly making gay accusations
you seem to do it alot
I assume it's simply projection to cover up your own homosexual feelings
you'd probably feel better if you just came out of the closet
Of course you would assume that, because you always assume that everyone on earth is either gay or a closeted homosexual.
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Of course you would assume that, because you always assume that everyone on earth is either gay or a closeted homosexual.
yet you're the one who completely ignores the topic at hand and instead just alters quotes to project your own gay fantasies
what is it about Brit Hume that turns you on?
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For someone who claims not to be gay and wants to stick to the topic at hand, you sure are asking for a lot of details about Brit Hume.
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JAG: I don't understand why you would be upset about a news org, claim it is a propaganda tool of the right, talk about how this sort of thing is wrong and then post from sources that are well known for being propaganda tools of the left...I mean come on, MediaMatters, would you have picked one that was any more point blank? It seems to me you're one of the one's who complains about free speech when the speech isn't their own. Am I wrong? Waiting on you..............
240: Well said, you don't like it, don't watch it...it's not a hard concept but very hard for some to aept for some reason.
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For someone who claims not to be gay and wants to stick to the topic at hand, you sure are asking for a lot of details about Brit Hume.
again - anyone can see you altered my quote
YOU brought up being gay and YOU brought up YOUR fantasies about Brit Hume
why would you continually bring it up in threads that have nothing to do with homosexuality unless you had some latent or not so latent interest in the topic?
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How many people on this board would be in favor a push by Al Jazeera to get major network type access in the US market?
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again - anyone can see you altered my quote
YOU brought up being gay and YOU brought up YOUR fantasies about Brit Hume
why would you continually bring it up in threads that have nothing to do with homosexuality unless you had some latent or not so latent interest in the topic?
Hmmm. I don't think that you are posting accurate information. It appears that you accused me of being gay and not sticking to the issues and then promptly changed the subject from Canada/ Fox News to request a graphic sexual description of Brit Hume. That makes three times in this thread alone that you discussed homosexuality, Brit Hume and fantasies in the same posting. Your disinformation campaign is falling apart. If you don't have sexual longings for Brit Hume, the only logical conclusion I can draw from your behavior is that you have sexual longings for Brit Hume.
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Straw - I'm really sorry man. I spend most of my time looking at pictures of oiled up men in thongs and when I start getting turned on I get really scared and start hating myself. The only thing that makes me feel better is coming to this board and accusing other people of being gay. I know it's pathetic but I just can't help it. I'll probably do it again in the future so I apologize in advance.
no problem man
it seems like you have serious emotional problems
I hope you can get some help
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Fabricating quotations doesn't make you any less gay.
And since you falsely claimed that I changed one of your quotations and you blatantly changed mine, the evidence would suggest that the angst you feel regarding your homosexuality is starting to manifest itself as a cry for help. It's almost like the teenager that gets caught shoplifting on purpose. It's either that, or you really want me to pay attention to you.
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Fabricating quotations doesn't make you any less gay.
And since you falsely claimed that I changed one of your quotations and you blatantly changed mine, the evidence would suggest that the angst you feel regarding your homosexuality is starting to manifest itself as a cry for help. It's almost like the teenager that gets caught shoplifting on purpose. It's either that, or you really want me to pay attention to you.
you're living proof of that
I didn't change your quote
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Let them bring any news channel they want.
let the viewers decide if the channel is worthy of remaining on the air.
They allow channels with porn, gun battles, etc... why hate on the news because of their leaning?
240, it's a bit different.
It's not hating on the news, it's hating on fake news and attempts at public manipulation & indoctrination.
Unlike in the USA, Canadian journalism standards require that stories be truthful & accurate.
In addition, in order to not only strengthen, but safeguard our democracy, we do not have any one channel owned by, or used as, an extension, or PR arm for any political party. Our democracy does not work that way. That is the road to fascism, and we want no part of it up here. If we had to do without Sex and the City for years because of CRTC CanCon guidelines, ...then we sure as shit can do without a Fox News North forever!
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240, it's a bit different.
It's not hating on the news, it's hating on fake news and attempts at public manipulation & indoctrination.
Unlike in the USA, Canadian journalism standards require that stories be truthful & accurate.
In addition, in order to not only strengthen, but safeguard our democracy, we do not have any one channel owned by, or used as, an extension, or PR arm for any political party. Our democracy does not work that way. That is the road to fascism, and we want no part of it up here. If we had to do without Sex and the City for years because of CRTC CanCon guidelines, ...then we sure as shit can do without a Fox News North forever!
the usa is the most free country in the world maybe you should follow there lead and trust that your citizens are mature enough to make up there own mind on what is riight or wrong
just dont try and carry a gun in the usa because theyll make you sit in a class room for hours to get a permit..................
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How many people on this board would be in favor a push by Al Jazeera to get major network type access in the US market?
Al Jazeera already has a huge presence in North America.
When we see footage from the Middle East, 95% of the time, it is an AlJazeera feed.
We superimpose & juxtapose north American faces and voice-overs into the broadcast, but 95% of the time, it's AlJazeera footage.
I personally would be in favour of an Aljazeera network in the North American market.
I don't have a problem with different perspectives. However, having said that, I'd like to clarify that I believe there is a big difference between different perspectives of the truth, ...and a complete disconnect from the truth. AlJazeera, at least has journalistic standards, whereas Fox News does not. It is mercenary journalism at best, payable by the highest bidder. And while I would not like to see them used as a propaganda arm or PR firm for the radical right, I'm sure there are many right wingers who would feel equal discomfort at the prospect of them being used as a propaganda arm or PR firm for the left. this type of yellow journalism has no place in our democracy. It has no place in Canada, and can keep itself and it's baggage in the USA. We don't want it up here.
These types of mercenary organizations seem great at first, til they're hired on by those you don't like or are opposed to. You all think Prince's team of mercenaries at Blackwater or Xe or whatever the fvck they're calling themselves these days are great, ...until some Saudi Prince starts paying them more. How will you feel about Blackwater then... when they're hired by Saudi Arabia, or Russia, or even China to fight against US troops?
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the usa is the most free country in the world maybe you should follow there lead and trust that your citizens are mature enough to make up there own mind on what is riight or wrong
just dont try and carry a gun in the usa because theyll make you sit in a class room for hours to get a permit..................
You're missing the point. Our citizens have decided. It is Harper & Murdoch that are trying to bring this about despite the overwhelming Canadian voice against it.
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Al Jazeera already has a huge presence in North America.
When we see footage from the Middle East, 95% of the time, it is an AlJazeera feed.
We superimpose & juxtapose north American faces and voice-overs into the broadcast, but 95% of the time, it's AlJazeera footage.
I personally would be in favour of an Aljazeera network in the North American market.
I don't have a problem with different perspectives. However, having said that, I'd like to clarify that I believe there is a big difference between different perspectives of the truth, ...and a complete disconnect from the truth. AlJazeera, at least has journalistic standards, whereas Fox News does not. It is mercenary journalism at best, payable by the highest bidder. And while I would not like to see them used as a propaganda arm or PR firm for the radical right, I'm sure there are many right wingers who would feel equal discomfort at the prospect of them being used as a propaganda arm or PR firm for the left. this type of yellow journalism has no place in our democracy. It has no place in Canada, and can keep itself and it's baggage in the USA. We don't want it up here.
These types of mercenary organizations seem great at first, til they're hired on by those you don't like or are opposed to. You all think Prince's team of mercenaries at Blackwater or Xe or whatever the fvck they're calling themselves these days are great, ...until some Saudi Prince starts paying them more. How will you feel about Blackwater then... when they're hired by Saudi Arabia, or Russia, or even China to fight against US troops?
fox news doesnt really lie as much as they just manipilate the truth in favor of what theri viewers want to hear
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You're missing the point. Our citizens have decided. It is Harper & Murdoch that are trying to bring this about despite the overwhelming Canadian voice against it.
just makes me lol
we shouldnt silence anyone i respect freedom of speech
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the canadians alwaays talking about the usa but then they show their true colors
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just makes me lol
we shouldnt silence anyone i respect freedom of speech
Schweppes, tell you what? Why don't I proselytize about whatever lies I want to my heart's content, and have YOU pick up the tab for it all?
Canada's way of doing things is slightly different. We're not an anything goes marketplace.
In the USA, a journalist can get on TV and enter your home every night and bold faced lie to you.
they can tell you a product is safe to eat, the water is safe to drink, and the air is safe to breathe... all under the guise of free speech. In Canada, speech is not so free.
We are also free to to tell you a product is safe to eat, the water is safe to drink, and the air is safe to breathe, ...but only if it is! With Canadian freedom comes responsibility & accountability.
I can't believe people are complaining about an independent commissioner not being a paper pusher, or waste of tax payer dollars, but someone who actually does the job he was hired to do on behalf of Canadians, ...and are actually advocating the bullying, influence peddling, and strong arm tactics allegedly being used by a head of state. Since when do we support dictatorial excess in our leaders? I know when that started in the USA, but we don't accept that up here in Canada.
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Schweppes, tell you what? Why don't I proselytize about whatever lies I want to my heart's content, and have YOU pick up the tab for it all?
Canada's way of doing things is slightly different. We're not an anything goes marketplace.
In the USA, a journalist can get on TV and enter your home every night and bold faced lie to you.
they can tell you a product is safe to eat, the water is safe to drink, and the air is safe to breathe... all under the guise of free speech. In Canada, speech is not so free.
We are also free to to tell you a product is safe to eat, the water is safe to drink, and the air is safe to breathe, ...but only if it is! With Canadian freedom comes responsibility & accountability.
I can't believe people are complaining about an independent commissioner not being a paper pusher, or waste of tax payer dollars, but someone who actually does the job he was hired to do on behalf of Canadians, ...and are actually advocating the bullying, influence peddling, and strong arm tactics allegedly being used by a head of state. Since when do we support dictatorial excess in our leaders? I know when that started in the USA, but we don't accept that up here in Canada.
the usa is becoming more and more like that everyday and it really hurts me
we need to go in the opposite direction
wild west freedom is what we need down here in the usa, not your brand of faux fredom.......
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the usa is becoming more and more like that everyday and it really hurts me
we need to go in the opposite direction
wild west freedom is what we need down here in the usa, not your brand of faux fredom.......
In Canada, you're free to do the right, moral, ethical & just thing. ;)
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240, it's a bit different.
It's not hating on the news, it's hating on fake news and attempts at public manipulation & indoctrination.
Unlike in the USA, Canadian journalism standards require that stories be truthful & accurate.
In addition, in order to not only strengthen, but safeguard our democracy, we do not have any one channel owned by, or used as, an extension, or PR arm for any political party. Our democracy does not work that way. That is the road to fascism, and we want no part of it up here. If we had to do without Sex and the City for years because of CRTC CanCon guidelines, ...then we sure as shit can do without a Fox News North forever!
Yet you posted using MediaMatters as your source of info, a group with a very strong and open left-wing agenda...they make no bones about it, as well as a group has been called out for lying on several occasions and claimed "the ends justify the means." I just find it strange that you'd use a group as this as your backbone for what you say you're against.
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Yet you posted using MediaMatters as your source of info, a group with a very strong and open left-wing agenda...they make no bones about it, as well as a group has been called out for lying on several occasions and claimed "the ends justify the means." I just find it strange that you'd use a group as this as your backbone for what you say you're against.
Arnold, it is appearing that your big argument is against a link used to support an allegation.
Did you infact check the various links listed, including the Media Matters link?
Regardless of whatever your objection to Media Matters, if you clicked the links, you would have seen the material listed is nothing less than credible. Beck did infact compare Obama to Lucifer, and he did needlessly and gratuitously attack Obama's 11 yr old daughter.
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Arnold, it is appearing that your big argument is against a link used to support an allegation.
Did you infact check the various links listed, including the Media Matters link?
Regardless of whatever your objection to Media Matters, if you clicked the links, you would have seen the material listed is nothing less than credible. Beck did infact compare Obama to Lucifer, and he did needlessly and gratuitously attack Obama's 11 yr old daughter.
I looked at some of them, yes, you had a lot of links and no I didn't look at every single one.
Beck says a lot of outrageous things, but they are said very facetiously. I've heard Beck say in some of his more serious moments "do I believe Obama is the anti-Christ? No, of course not. I believe he is doing what HE thinks is best. He may very well be a good man, a good father, a good dad, he seems to be, he seems like someone pleasant to be around. That doesn't mean we have to agree on policy."
MediaMatters, I have a problem with George Sorros and most things he does. Obviously I'd disagree with him on just about everything but it's the blatant lying and loathing of America he has that I despise.
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I look at what is available on direct or comcast...
Military channel - nothing but a recruiting tool and j/o outlet for those who scream 'america, fvck yeah!" whilst telling themselves it's not about oil and bases.
The oxygen channel/ TLC- Nothing but pat-on-the-back, whimper-about-your-feelings nonsense for people not tough enough to just sac up.
Mtv - stupid drivel for braindead twerps who assign some importance to what a fat pig named snooki drinks at the bar.
FOX news - GOP cheerleader & salesman
MSN - Dem cheerleader & salesman
As long as any network follows the FCC rules, I could give a shit if they're on the air. Al-jazeera can come here. I sure won't watch it cause I'd rather watch paint dry, but there are people who will enjoy it. Who cares. If directv decides it's profitable, why not? College kids can do shots every time 'jihad' flashes on the screen.
Anyone remember when the us tank 'accidentally' fired a round at the al jazeera room in the pal hotel in iraq? oh brother
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I can understand them not wanting public funding for it or any other political channel/movement, but boo-friggin'-hoo about Beck and the tea partiers.
I'm all for any country not wanting this brand of poison. I'm sorry, I wouldn't wish Fox or MSNBC on my worst enemy at this point. If Canada or anybody else hasn't had to deal with this kind of pure propaganda extreme bullshit, I totall understand why they wouldn't want it. Fucking hell, we would be better off to rid ourselves of it here.
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I look at what is available on direct or comcast...
Military channel - nothing but a recruiting tool and j/o outlet for those who scream 'america, fvck yeah!" whilst telling themselves it's not about oil and bases.
The oxygen channel/ TLC- Nothing but pat-on-the-back, whimper-about-your-feelings nonsense for people not tough enough to just sac up.
Mtv - stupid drivel for braindead twerps who assign some importance to what a fat pig named snooki drinks at the bar.
FOX news - GOP cheerleader & salesman
MSN - Dem cheerleader & salesman
As long as any network follows the FCC rules, I could give a shit if they're on the air. Al-jazeera can come here. I sure won't watch it cause I'd rather watch paint dry, but there are people who will enjoy it. Who cares. If directv decides it's profitable, why not? College kids can do shots every time 'jihad' flashes on the screen.
Anyone remember when the us tank 'accidentally' fired a round at the al jazeera room in the pal hotel in iraq? oh brother
I think you're missing a HUGE point here. You say as long as any network follows FCC rules...
I think you might be missing the fact that the CRTC and the FCC do the same thing. CRTC = FCC.
And a FOX NEWS North contravenes CRTC rules & guidelines. That is why Konrad von Finckenstein rejected Fox News North to begin with. Now we have a Prime Minister allegedly attempting to bully, coerce, strong arm, intimidate, pressure, and otherwise attack & circumvent an independent commission in order to do things the commission is tasked with preventing, things that threaten the very fabric of our democracy.
This is a fight for the soul of Canadian democracy. Our media is not perfect, but a ‘news’ network that slavishly serves a political agenda through mass manipulation and fear threatens the fabric of our democratic society.
The CRTC is part of our democracy -- it was made an independent commission precisely in order to protect against this kind of government manipulation of the media. Harper knows that he must bully his way through this institution in order to create "Fox News North". And there are dark rumours in Ottawa that if von Finckenstein will not leave his job, Harper will simply force him to give in. Konrad von Finckenstein is upholding the best tradition of Canadian democracy and civil service in the face of a full scale attack on that tradition. Let's show him, and Harper, that Canada stands with him.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl (http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?vl)
"Fox News North" is Harper's long term strategy to make radical conservatism the political centre in Canada, tearing down the country we love to make us look like the U.S. Thankfully, Konrad von Finckenstein and the CRTC are standing in his way -- let's stand with them.
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LOL jag do you have MSNBC up there?
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In Canada, you're free to do the right, moral, ethical & just thing. ;)
who decides what moral, ethical and the just thing? ::)
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I don't have a problem with different perspectives. However, having said that, I'd like to clarify that I believe there is a big difference between different perspectives of the truth,
this right here says it all...I guess since youre ok with one it makes it right and youre not ok with the other it makes it wrong ::)
goodness gracious ::)
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I can understand why they wouldn't want something like Fox news in Canada. Because of Fox news, several Obama administration people resigned in disgrace after being outed as radical Marxists . They also reveal stories to the public that the liberal media intentionally ignore when it shows their leftie heroes in a bad light. God knows how many Marxists and socialists would be outed in Canada if a channel like Fox went on the air. Of course they want to strike it down. Since I don't live in Canada, I am not aware if their mainstream media leans as far to the left as ours does in America.
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I can understand why they wouldn't want something like Fox news in Canada. Because of Fox news, several Obama administration people resigned in disgrace after being outed as radical Marxists . They also reveal stories to the public that the liberal media intentionally ignore when it shows their leftie heroes in a bad light. God knows how many Marxists and socialists would be outed in Canada if a channel like Fox went on the air. Of course they want to strike it down. Since I don't live in Canada, I am not aware if their mainstream media leans as far to the left as ours does in America.
QFT and Canada is so unapologetically in the tank for the liberal ideology that it makes the United States look like Saudi Arabia.
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LOL jag do you have MSNBC up there?
Nope. Our news channels deliver news... without the political agenda.
It's up to the viewer to determine how s/he feels about it.
We don't have news stations designed to rile people up in any political direction.
People who want to do that, are free to do so, ..but on their own time, and certainly on their own dime.
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this right here says it all...I guess since youre ok with one it makes it right and youre not ok with the other it makes it wrong ::)
goodness gracious ::)
You're quoting me out of context. That in itself speaks volumes about your agenda and/or myopia.
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who decides what moral, ethical and the just thing? ::)
In so far as our public airwaves go, that would be the CRTC, based upon it's independent charter & guidelines.
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fox news doesnt really lie as much as they just manipilate the truth in favor of what theri viewers want to hear
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/shocked.gif)
WTF?
Ever considered a career in politics? You've got the BS doublespeak down cold. :D
So when your girlfriend cheats & sleeps around on you, ...if you confront her, or ask her about it,
and she says she's been completely faithful to you, ...she's not lying, ...she's just manipulating the truth in favour of what you want to hear. ::)
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See, I believe channels are ALREADY showing mistruths 24/7. So FOX doing it would be no different. I watch the military channel and it's just an hour straight of cool weaponry and a retired general (now working in pvt sector) lecturing us on how we need to spend more $ on these weapons cause bad guys hate our freedom. That's a crock of shit - it's about oil, bases, drugs, minerals, and ideology - and this man is just lying to rile up viewers. But I'm okay with that.
Same with Mtv. Their viewers think jersey shore is how one should live. drinking, sexing it up, punching women in clubs, all that. They're propagating a morally corrput lifestyle.
We won't even get into HBO series the Wire which pretty much shows you - if you kill enough witnesses, you can get away with being a major drug dealer.
So yes, FOX is routinely full of shit, straight up lies and exaggerations. And I'm okay with that being on the air. Even though, yes, it is dangerous in that 15% of the population truly believe we walked with Dinos 5000 years ago, and Palin is the most qualified person in USA to be president... yes, 15% of people are really that doggone stupid. And FOX makes them feel good. And that's what TV is all about. Making you feel good, even if feeling good involves nodding in agreement with ignorant hate-spewing jackasses.
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who decides what moral, ethical and the just thing? ::)
exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
we cant selectivly limit freedom
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Not surprised. From the same part of the world that tried to censor Ann Coulter by threatening her with jail. ::) The response to speech you disagree with is more speech, not censorship. Many liberals have a childlike response to opposing viewpoints: shout them down, censor them, or in the case of (to paraphrase loco) America's retarded little cousin, lock them up.
It's very amusing that so many people are afraid opposing viewpoints. If someone really doesn't like information they receive on one channel, turn the channel. Or turn off the TV. Start your own show. Compete.
One of the things we've seen in American media is conservative TV and radio sells, liberal TV and radio does not. It's by and large what the public wants.
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Not surprised. From the same part of the world that tried to censor Ann Coulter by threatening her with jail. ::) The response to speech you disagree with is more speech, not censorship. Many liberals have a childlike response to opposing viewpoints: shout them down, censor them, or in the case of (to paraphrase loco) America's retarded little cousin, lock them up.
great post yessssssssssssssssssssss s thank you!
i never really realized what a joke canada was until i read through this thread and di some research
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great post yessssssssssssssssssssss s thank you!
i never really realized what a joke canada was until i read through this thread and di some research
Thanks. :) Why do you think so many of them move to the U.S.? It's a nice place to visit (or so I hear), but wouldn't want to live there. :)
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One of the things we've seen in American media is conservative TV and radio sells, liberal TV and radio does not. It's by and large what the public wants.
It may be what the American conservative public wants, ...but the Canadian public does not want it.
And we do not want our Prime Minister's circumventing, bullying, strong-arming, and intimidating independent commissions tasked with ensuring CRTC guidelines are maintained. And Canadians sure as shit won't want to be paying for something we don't want that breaks our laws, or provides support & money to politicians we don't support, simply because the PM has a personal agenda to be PM for life. Unlike the USA, Canada doesn't have term limits.
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:'( :'( :'(
STFU-- Nobody cares about Canada, the Canadian public, or your speech/ thought police regulations. Go drown in some Molson ice you cross eyed hag.
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whats changed jag b/c MSNBC was allowed in canada but from what I can tell voluntarily went off the air or got taken over by someone else...
did you start a thread about stopping them from being able to broadcast in canada?
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It may be what the American conservative public wants, ...but the Canadian public does not want it.
And we do not want our Prime Minister's circumventing, bullying, strong-arming, and intimidating independent commissions tasked with ensuring CRTC guidelines are maintained. And Canadians sure as shit won't want to be paying for something we don't want that breaks our laws, or provides support & money to politicians we don't support, simply because the PM has a personal agenda to be PM for life. Unlike the USA, Canada doesn't have term limits.
If the Canadian public doesn't want it, then why is "Fox News North" trying to go there? (Rhetorical question.)
Also, if the Canadian public truly doesn't want it, then the market will take care of itself, the ratings will suffer, and it will be off the air. That's how a free market works.
And with that, I have exhausted my discussion about America's "retarded little cousin" for the year.
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Not surprised. From the same part of the world that tried to censor Ann Coulter by threatening her with jail. ::) The response to speech you disagree with is more speech, not censorship. Many liberals have a childlike response to opposing viewpoints: shout them down, censor them, or in the case of (to paraphrase loco) America's retarded little cousin, lock them up.
It's very amusing that so many people are afraid opposing viewpoints. If someone really doesn't like information they receive on one channel, turn the channel. Or turn off the TV. Start your own show. Compete.
One of the things we've seen in American media is conservative TV and radio sells, liberal TV and radio does not. It's by and large what the public wants.
Great post.
Canada showing her true colors.
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If the Canadian public doesn't want it, then why is "Fox News North" trying to go there? (Rhetorical question.)
Also, if the Canadian public truly doesn't want it, then the market will take care of itself, the ratings will suffer, and it will be off the air. That's how a free market works.
And with that, I have exhausted my discussion about America's "retarded little cousin" for the year.
exactly, but people like jag woulld rather censor their fellow citizens on the grounds that theyre smarter and have it all figured out..............
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If the Canadian public doesn't want it, then why is "Fox News North" trying to go there? (Rhetorical question.)
Just because the Canadian public doesn't want Fox News North, ...doesn't mean Fox News North doesn't want the Canadian public.
Also, if the Canadian public truly doesn't want it, then the market will take care of itself, the ratings will suffer, and it will be off the air. That's how a free market works.
No it won't. Under the proposals, it would be funded and propped up by Canadian cable user fees.
Canadian would have to pay for the channel whether they wanted it, subscribed to it, or watched it or not.
And with that, I have exhausted my discussion about America's "retarded little cousin" for the year.
*Sigh* It would be so much easier if you actually had at least a rudimentary understanding of how things actually worked in this jurisdiction.
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exactly, but people like jag woulld rather censor their fellow citizens on the grounds that theyre smarter and have it all figured out..............
...or on the basis of I don't feel like paying for your propaganda and BS!
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whats changed jag b/c MSNBC was allowed in canada but from what I can tell voluntarily went off the air or got taken over by someone else...
did you start a thread about stopping them from being able to broadcast in canada?
did you start a thread about MSNBC and not wanting them up there jag?
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did you start a thread about MSNBC and not wanting them up there jag?
No I didn't. In addition, we didn't know what we would get with MSNBC.
These things sometimes only come from hindsight. Well, we know what we'd get with a Fox News north,
...and we don't want it. We've already got Fox news, ...there's no need for a Fox News North.
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No I didn't. In addition, we didn't know what we would get with MSNBC.
These things sometimes only come from hindsight. Well, we know what we'd get with a Fox News north,
...and we don't want it. We've already got Fox news, ...there's no need for a Fox News North.
LMAO how did you not know what you would get with msnbc?
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Just because the Canadian public doesn't want Fox News North, ...doesn't mean Fox News North doesn't want the Canadian public.
No it won't. Under the proposals, it would be funded and propped up by Canadian cable user fees.
Canadian would have to pay for the channel whether they wanted it, subscribed to it, or watched it or not.
*Sigh* It would be so much easier if you actually had at least a rudimentary understanding of how things actually worked in this jurisdiction.
So basically what you're saying is Fox News North would simply be part of your basic cable package if you choose to have cable...sounds pretty much like how cable works here. For instance, if I want cable, I get X amount of channels, including channels like MTV, BET, Lifetime, G4, etc, channels I never watch and don't care to watch.
That's pretty much how cable TV works.
Second thing, like a previous poster said, ratings will depend on if Fox News North stays there or if they want to set up shop in the first place. The only way Fox News north will be successful in Canada is if advertisers are willing to advertise on the channel and the only way they will be willing to do that is if people are watching.
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They wont be able to ban it.FOX will be on and it will CRUSH everyone in the ratings just as it does here.Poor libs,they see their controll over the media is gone and their ability to manipulate every story is over.Maybe Canada can bring back Dan Rather and he can report on some more forged documents.
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They wont be able to ban it.FOX will be on and it will CRUSH everyone in the ratings just as it does here.Poor libs,they see their controll over the media is gone and their ability to manipulate every story is over.Maybe Canada can bring back Dan Rather and he can report on some more forged documents.
Canadian audiences are somewhat different than American ones, with significantly different tastes.
Things that go routinely in American television would be quite frowned upon in this market.
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Canadian audiences are somewhat different than American ones, with significantly different tastes.
Things that go routinely in American television would be quite frowned upon in this market.
Would you like to bet on that?MSNBC thought the same thing here.They said "the country wont put up with FOX" what happened?MSNBC gets their asses kicked every single night.The same thing will happen in Canada.
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Canadian audiences are somewhat different than American ones, with significantly different tastes.
Things that go routinely in American television would be quite frowned upon in this market.
then i'd say let them do it, and let them lose $ on it.
at the very least, it'll be amusing to see if they water down their approach (will they become anti-gun?), or if they actually empower some canadians to demand less govt control.
granted, many fox viewers are confused (they are okay with id checks and banning mosques, but want more freedoms? huh?).... but they do want less govt involvement - almost always a good thing.
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then i'd say let them do it, and let them lose $ on it.
at the very least, it'll be amusing to see if they water down their approach (will they become anti-gun?), or if they actually empower some canadians to demand less govt control.
granted, many fox viewers are confused (they are okay with id checks and banning mosques, but want more freedoms? huh?).... but they do want less govt involvement - almost always a good thing.
The people you're referring to want security and peace of mind, they want their government, emphasis on "Their" to protect, as is there number one intended job. That doesn't mean they want Their government digging into their pockets, controlling the market, regulating industry into the dirt, managing health care, denying basic liberties, etc.
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The people you're referring to want security and peace of mind, they want their government, emphasis on "Their" to protect, as is there number one intended job. That doesn't mean they want Their government digging into their pockets, controlling the market, regulating industry into the dirt, managing health care, denying basic liberties, etc.
it wouldn't hurt canada to have a little more fire in their guts in terms of rejecting govt control.
I admit fox is frequently full of shit, but I think their POV is necessary for a complete discourse/discussion on an issue. There are actually issues where palin is right and obama is wrong, ya know? (competence aside)
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it wouldn't hurt canada to have a little more fire in their guts in terms of rejecting govt control.
I admit fox is frequently full of shit, but I think their POV is necessary for a complete discourse/discussion on an issue. There are actually issues where palin is right and obama is wrong, ya know? (competence aside)
Again with Palin.
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then i'd say let them do it, and let them lose $ on it.
at the very least, it'll be amusing to see if they water down their approach (will they become anti-gun?), or if they actually empower some canadians to demand less govt control.
granted, many fox viewers are confused (they are okay with id checks and banning mosques, but want more freedoms? huh?).... but they do want less govt involvement - almost always a good thing.
It's not just about ratings, or even aesthetic tastes & sensibilities. Those can be adjusted for any audience.
The big issue here is the legality of it all, and the way in which this process is occurring. It goes against CRTC policies, yet powerful interests are trying to bully it through. How would you feel if your President broke the law in order to get his way and further his own personal agenda, ...and forced you to pay for it?
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How would you feel if your President broke the law in order to get his way and further his own personal agenda, ...and forced you to pay for it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
;D
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Dear amazing Avaaz community across Canada
In just 6 days, our petition to stop "Fox News North" from getting special access to our cable fees has exploded to over 75,000 signatures!
Together, we can stop Harper and his crony-media -- which is why "Fox News North" has launched a full scale attack on Avaaz: with smear pieces attacking us in their own newspapers. They've also admitted suspicious insider knowledge of a criminal sabotage of our petition -- fraudulently signing up key journalists to discredit us in the press as spammers. And we've received a letter from their lawyers threatening to sue us if we don't change our petition within 24 hours!
This is how big corporate power and their friends work to silence people's voices, using loads of cash, dirty tricks, expensive lawyers, and a media empire to smear their enemies and sue them into submission. But Avaaz is an online community of hundreds of thousands Canadians -- together, we're far stronger than any crony-corporation. They've given us a 24-hour ultimatum: Let's show them their intimidation tactics will backfire, and send a clear message back by raising a massive campaign fund by their own deadline. The more money we donate, the stronger message we send. Click below to stand up to "Fox News North" in the press and the courts:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/fox_news_north_attacks/?vl
The Stop "Fox News North" campaign fund will be used for:
a) Investigating the fraudulent attack on Avaaz - potentially leading to a criminal investigation of "Fox News North" (aka Sun TV)
b) Pressing our message in Canada's legitimate media, through compelling ads, op-eds and statements
c) Hiring lawyers, both to fend off Sun TV's attacks and to represent the views of Canadians to the CRTC as it considers Sun TV's request for the government to force cable companies to offer them.
d) Expanding our tiny team to be able to coordinate this campaign and scale it up to a new level, meeting the massive demand we're hearing from across Canada for a bigger campaign.
This is a fight for our democracy. Sun TV is part of the Quebecor empire, owned by Pierre Karl Peladeau, a radical conservative and the largest media mogul in Canada. After a secret lunch with the president and owner of Fox News, Harper's top spin doctor, Kory Teneycke, moved to Quebecor to head up Sun TV. So our country's largest media empire is now spearheaded by the Prime Minister's former spin doctor, and he wants a government commission (the CRTC) to go against all its policies and force all cable companies to offer his channel. What this means for us is that if we want to watch a range of channels or get the news package of channels, we'll likely be forced to pay for Harper's crony-media mouthpiece too. Click below to donate to stop "Fox News North" being added to our cable bills:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/fox_news_north_attacks/?vl
Quebecor's smear pieces on Avaaz spread a string of desperate falsehoods to try to discredit the voices of tens of thousands of concerned Canadians. Their pieces claimed for example that our petition was a fake, signed mainly by Americans. When we offered to have any reputable audit firm like KPMG audit our petition for authenticity, they didn't respond. This kind of sleazy exploitation of their media power is just a taste of the kind of Fox News-like subversion that Sun TV is seeking to bring to our democracy.
Even worse, in a criminal attack on democratic expression online, an individual connected to Kory Teneycke tried to discredit our petition by adding people falsely (including journalists), committing identity theft and fraud. In a live debate on CBC between Teneycke and Avaaz's Executive Director Ricken Patel, it emerged that Teneycke must have known about the fraud virtually as it was happening! The press is asking whether Teneycke himself or SunTV was behind the attack.
This is not the kind of democracy we want to live in, and it's certainly not the kind we're going to be forced to pay for. Harper's thuggish politics has shocked most of us nicer Canadians. But he's about to find out that we can only be pushed so far. Let's make the defeat of "Fox News North" the beginning of the end of Harper's assault on our democracy.
With hope,
Ricken, Emma, Laryn and the rest of the Avaaz team.
PS - some links to more information on this are below.
Ricken debates Kory Teneycke LIVE on CBC: <-- newly added link
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Featured_Videos/ID=1582123926 (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Featured_Videos/ID=1582123926) <-- a must watch
Rabble, "Ezra levant vs Reality"
http://www.rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/apicazo/2010/09/ezra-levant-vs-reality-prelude-fox-news-north (http://www.rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/apicazo/2010/09/ezra-levant-vs-reality-prelude-fox-news-north)
Globe and Mail, “Is Harper set to move against the CRTC?”:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/)
CBC, “The absolute last thing this country needs”:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46 (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46)
Globe and Mail, "CRTC refuses Sun TV's bid for preferred status on dial":
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/)
The Star, “Harper’s foxy luncheon”:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon (http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon)
Mediaite, “Canada and Ann Coulter: a volatile relationship”:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/)
Media Matters, “Glenn Beck smears Obama’s 11 year old daughter”:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025 (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025)
The Examiner: “Bill O’Reilly again confuses facts about Canadian health care system”:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025 (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025)
Support the Avaaz community! We're entirely funded by donations and receive no money from governments or corporations. Our dedicated team ensures even the smallest contributions go a long way -- donate here (https://secure.avaaz.org/).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
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And who was the biggest cheerleader behind this? Why, it was Fox News wasn't it? :o Case closed! ;D
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And who was the biggest cheerleader behind this? Why, it was Fox News wasn't it? :o Case closed! ;D
yeah, but to be fair, they employ 911 truthers like Michelle Malkin.
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How would you feel if your President broke the law in order to get his way and further his own personal agenda, ...and forced you to pay for it?
You mean like pass bills Americans don't want, force them to pay for it and so on? OK, maybe not against the law but that doesn't make it right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
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And this is against the law how?
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STILL WAITING TO SEE HOW YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD GET WITH MSNBC???
I mean really? ;)
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CTV.ca
News Staff
Former Harper spokesperson quits Sun TV
Date: Wed. Sep. 15 2010 10:29 PM ET
The former government spokesperson behind the proposed right-wing all-news channel Sun TV resigned Wednesday because he felt he was hurting the network's chances of making it to air.
Kory Teneycke, former communications director to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, stepped down from his position as vice-president of development at Quebecor Media "effective immediately."
During an Ottawa news conference, Teneycke suggested his resignation stemmed from potential conflict-of-interest concerns, given how closely his new role followed his time in government.
"The perception problems associated with such a quick move from active politics to overseeing a bureau covering the government you just worked for are obvious," Teneycke said.
Teneycke began his tenure at Quebecor last spring with a series of media interviews to introduce the proposed station in which he criticized its competition as "boring" and "politically correct."
Station brass then got into a war of words with author Margaret Atwood, who signed an online petition spearheaded by New York-based advocacy group Avaaz.org against the station, dubbed "Fox News North" by critics. The petition called on Ottawa to refrain from granting special favours to the station as it works through the licence-application process.
And earlier this week, officials with Avaaz.org asked police to investigate its allegations that someone using an Ottawa-based IP address entered bogus names on the petition.
Teneycke has previously acknowledged that a "source" claimed to have posted the names and then told him about it right away.
With the news that former Brian Mulroney spokesperson Luc Lavoie will replace Teneycke, a spokesperson for Avaaz.org said "nothing has changed about this project."
"We had two former prime ministers' spin doctors running a biased media outlet that will advance seeking a special government favour," said Ricken Patel. "One of them has stepped back, the other has stepped forward."
Lavoie said Wednesday that Teneycke's departure "won't affect the operations one way or another."
"It's full steam ahead," he told reporters.
The company goes back before federal regulators on November 19, when it will ask the CRTC for a so-called "must offer" licence, which has never before been granted. The company is asking that all cable and satellite companies be required to offer Sun TV in a package for three years.
With a report by CTV's Richard Madan in Ottawa and files from The Canadian Press
Click here to see Teneycke's resignation announcement. It's priceless. The link also contains footage from PowerPlay discussing Teneycke and his very hasty resignation within 24 hours of an RCMP investigation. LOL (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20100915/kory-quits-100915/) <--click me
CTV National News: Richard Madan on the move
Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director has resigned from his post as Sun TV's Vice President of Development. Kory Teneycke says he made the decision because he had become a liability to the channel's launch.
Power Play: Journalists on Teneycke's departure
CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife, Jim Travers of the Toronto Star, and Chris Waddell of Carleton University discuss Kory Teneycke's decision to quit as vice-president of development at Quebecor Media.
I guess this settles the question of whose allegations were credible or not. :)
Avaaz - 3
Canadians - 2
Teneycke - 0
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LOL you shouldnt talk about credibility on this jag, you claimed that you didnt know what you would get with MSNBC and that was the reason you didnt protest their broadcasting in canada ::)
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LOL you shouldnt talk about credibility on this jag, you claimed that you didnt know what you would get with MSNBC and that was the reason you didnt protest their broadcasting in canada ::)
WTF is your point? I never watched msnbc, never knew about it... didn't care about it... it was a different time in my life when I was neither politically aware nor active. Was focused on other issues and pursuits. WTF is your point?
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WTF is your point? I never watched msnbc, never knew about it... didn't care about it... it was a different time in my life when I was neither politically aware nor active. Was focused on other issues and pursuits. WTF is your point?
LOL i hit i nerve maybe?
hahahahha
my point is its hypocritical of canada and those who didnt oppose MSNBC and now oppose FOX.
CANADA: where youre only allowed to speak freely when you are left leaning ::) ::) ::)
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LOL i hit i nerve maybe?
hahahahha
my point is its hypocritical of canada and those who didnt oppose MSNBC and now oppose FOX.
CANADA: where youre only allowed to speak freely when you are left leaning ::) ::) ::)
Ya you hit a nerve... my last nerve.
You can be such an obtuse idiot at times!
This is not about free speech. this is not about whether I like or want fox news north or not.
this is about CRTC regulations, and my desire that they follow the rules when it comes to a license. If they don't qualify for a license, then I, as all canadians expect that they WOULD NOT & SHOULD NOT be granted a license. And I don't want my prime Minister pulling strings, intimidating, bribing or bullying an independent commission into giving him his own personal mouthpiece that I am required to pay for . it's that simple. If you don't , won't or can't understand that... that's your problem. Now FVCK OFF and leave me alone. >:(
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Ya you hit a nerve... my last nerve.
You can be such an obtuse idiot at times!
This is not about free speech. this is not about whether I like or want fox news north or not.
this is about CRTC regulations, and my desire that they follow the rules when it comes to a license. If they don't qualify for a license, then I, as all canadians expect that they WOULD NOT & SHOULD NOT be granted a license. And I don't want my prime Minister pulling strings, intimidating, bribing or bullying an independent commission into giving him his own personal mouthpiece that I am required to pay for . it's that simple. If you don't , won't or can't understand that... that's your problem. Now FVCK OFF and leave me alone. >:(
when were these CRTC regs put in place?
was MSNBC allowed to obtain such a license? ;D ;D ;D
if you dont want to talk abou this shit, then stop posting here honey...
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when were these CRTC regs put in place?
was MSNBC allowed to obtain such a license? ;D ;D ;D
if you dont want to talk abou this shit, then stop posting here honey...
These CRTC regs have always been in place.
No MSNBC was NOT granted such a license. They had to sink or swim on their own merit based on whether Canadians wanted to pay to watch them. the very thing we want to see occur with Fox News North. Let those who want to pay for & view them do so, but do not force those of us who have no desire to see or hear them to finance the poison they dispense. That's just plain tyranny.
I don't have a problem talking about this stuff, however I do have a problem with those who waste my time demanding I answer for, or address non facts as facts. If you want to discuss something, stick to facts, don't throw your own ignorant spin in based on your own personal biases that have absolutely no relevance to the issue at hand.
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Hey, We did it! "Fox News North" has dropped their bid for forced access to our cable fees!
83,000 of us signed the petition, 25,000 sent letters to the CRTC and 4,000 donated over $115,000 - and last week SunTV, seeing they could not win, dropped their request to the government to force cable companies to carry them. A huge congrats to everyone on this amazing victory for Canada!
It wasn't easy -- the Sun media empire threw everything they had at us - smear pieces, legal threats, even insider knowledge of sabotage of our campaigns -- but our united voices proved more powerful than even a Harper-allied corporate giant.
Let's take a moment to celebrate this, and share thoughts for what we do next. Click below to join a nation-wide live-chat:
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Just 3 weeks ago, our campaign caused the resignation in disgrace of SunTV chief and former Harper spin doctor Kory Teneycke (after we pressed for an RCMP investigation into the sabotage of our petition by people linked to Teneycke). While significant, Teneycke was just replaced by another scandal-ridden spin doctor for another conservative Prime Minister.
But the decision to abandon the forced access to our fees is a huge deal. "Fox News North" (SunTV) has admitted that, if given a free choice, Canadians won't watch it enough to make it profitable - that's why they sought a special licence from the CRTC that would force cable companies to carry them, and why the press warned that the CRTC was under pressure from the Harper government to grant this licence. So, the success of our people-powered campaign could mean the end of this attempt to bring a poisonous brand of crony-media to Canada. Hooray!
Harper's radical-right clique has launched a full scale assault on our democracy - forcing out top civil servants for refusing to be politicized, controlling press access to government like never before, even shutting down our Parliament when it suited them. A 24 hour propaganda news channel that backed their every move, no matter how outrageous, could have been a headshot to our country's democratic character. This victory is Canadian democracy's resilient response, and it's beautiful. Thank you!!
With gratitude and excitement for all we can achieve together in the future,
Ricken, Emma, Laryn and the whole Avaaz team
Sun TV gears down licence application, The Globe and Mail:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/sun-tv-gears-down-licence-application/article1743859/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/sun-tv-gears-down-licence-application/article1743859/)
Fox News North - Not: Savour the victory, The Vancouver Sun:
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/communityofinterest/archive/2010/10/06/fox-news-north-not-savour-the-victory.aspx (http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/communityofinterest/archive/2010/10/06/fox-news-north-not-savour-the-victory.aspx)
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