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Title: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Danny on September 07, 2010, 07:02:05 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142892/Parties-Tied-Generic-Ballot.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/142892/Parties-Tied-Generic-Ballot.aspx)
PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans and Democrats are tied at 46% among registered voters in Gallup's weekly tracking of congressional voting preferences, marking a shift after five consecutive weeks in which the Republicans held the advantage.

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These results are based on aggregated data from more than 1,650 registered voters surveyed Aug. 30-Sept. 5 as part of Gallup Daily tracking. The results reflect more competitive voting intentions than has been the case recently. Republicans' leads over Democrats among registered voters in three of the previous four weeks were the highest Gallup has measured for this midterm election campaign, and higher than any GOP advantage Gallup has measured in a midterm election year since 1942.

Last week marked the return of President Barack Obama from his 10-day vacation, and included his national address to announce the official end of combat operations in Iraq. The president's three-day job approval rating rose to 47% for Aug. 29-31 -- a level it had reached only once since mid-July. Last week also brought media commentary in the aftermath of conservative talk-show host Glenn Beck's massive rally in Washington, D.C. It is not clear if these or other factors affected Americans' voting preferences as measured by the generic ballot.

Whether the 2010 race has shifted more permanently to a more competitive positioning will be apparent in the coming weeks. Nevertheless, even the current tie in the generic ballot among registered voters points to a better year for Republicans than for Democrats, given the GOP's usual advantage in voter turnout in midterm elections.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: MCWAY on September 07, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142892/Parties-Tied-Generic-Ballot.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/142892/Parties-Tied-Generic-Ballot.aspx)
PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans and Democrats are tied at 46% among registered voters in Gallup's weekly tracking of congressional voting preferences, marking a shift after five consecutive weeks in which the Republicans held the advantage.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/2ooa6qptxeszgwxfros9lg.gif)


These results are based on aggregated data from more than 1,650 registered voters surveyed Aug. 30-Sept. 5 as part of Gallup Daily tracking. The results reflect more competitive voting intentions than has been the case recently. Republicans' leads over Democrats among registered voters in three of the previous four weeks were the highest Gallup has measured for this midterm election campaign, and higher than any GOP advantage Gallup has measured in a midterm election year since 1942.

Last week marked the return of President Barack Obama from his 10-day vacation, and included his national address to announce the official end of combat operations in Iraq. The president's three-day job approval rating rose to 47% for Aug. 29-31 -- a level it had reached only once since mid-July. Last week also brought media commentary in the aftermath of conservative talk-show host Glenn Beck's massive rally in Washington, D.C. It is not clear if these or other factors affected Americans' voting preferences as measured by the generic ballot.

Whether the 2010 race has shifted more permanently to a more competitive positioning will be apparent in the coming weeks. Nevertheless, even the current tie in the generic ballot among registered voters points to a better year for Republicans than for Democrats, given the GOP's usual advantage in voter turnout in midterm elections.

Rasmussen has GOP up 12; ABC/Washington Post has them up 13. The RCP average is over 6 points.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
GOP is going to do well this fall, no doubt. 

however, they gotta be careful with "We can run Palin, Ven der sloot, or Big Bird and win the White House in 2012!" talk.

They'll end up settling for a shitty ticket (See: 96, 08) and they'll giftwrap another 4 years of Obama in this white house.    Remember... the same people singing "one term baby!" are the same ones who had a cool song called "Healthcare is dead baby!" which they're not singing anymore...
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: BM OUT on September 08, 2010, 07:26:41 AM
GOP is going to do well this fall, no doubt. 

however, they gotta be careful with "We can run Palin, Ven der sloot, or Big Bird and win the White House in 2012!" talk.

They'll end up settling for a shitty ticket (See: 96, 08) and they'll giftwrap another 4 years of Obama in this white house.    Remember... the same people singing "one term baby!" are the same ones who had a cool song called "Healthcare is dead baby!" which they're not singing anymore...

Wow,another shot at Palin who has nothing to do with the thread.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Danny on September 08, 2010, 07:35:23 AM
Wow,another shot at Palin who has nothing to do with the thread.

You gotta be kidding me. What, now mentioning Palin's name who BTW it looks more and more that she will be a viable Republican candidate should all of a sudden be taboo???  ::)
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 07:40:17 AM
Registered voters and likely voters are not the same thing. 

Go to RCP and you will see the most realistic numbers. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Danny on September 08, 2010, 08:19:13 AM
Registered voters and likely voters are not the same thing. 

Go to RCP and you will see the most realistic numbers. 

While that might be true you can't ignore those numbers when they look better for one side (democrats right now ) and on the other hand totally brag about them when they give your favorite side a 10 point advantage. Am I right?  :)
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 08:21:26 AM
While that might be true you can't ignore those numbers when they look better for one side (democrats right now ) and on the other hand totally brag about them when they give your favorite side a 10 point advantage. Am I right?  :)

They are simply bogus and not remotely in line with anything else.  Registered voters is not reliable for midterms as much as likely voters are. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Danny on September 08, 2010, 08:25:01 AM
They are simply bogus and not remotely in line with anything else.  Registered voters is not reliable for midterms as much as likely voters are. 

Gallup polls are bogus? Were they bogus when they showed a 10% Republican lead? All I'm saying is that things change fast in politics.....you can't predict with certainty what will happen 2 months from now on and while the Republicans look like they will gain a number of seats it can't be predicted how many .....maybe they'll take the House maybe they wont. We simply don't know.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 08:26:28 AM
Gallup polls are bogus? Were they bogus when they showed a 10% Republican lead? All I'm saying is that things change fast in politics.....you can't predict with certainty what will happen 2 months from now on and while the Republicans look like they will gain a number of seats it can't be predicted how many .....maybe they'll take the House maybe they wont. We simply don't know.

I said using the metric of "registered voters" for mid terms is not reliable. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Fury on September 08, 2010, 08:27:27 AM
I guess all the dozens upon dozens of articles, polls and acknowledged fear among Democrats about their prospects in the elections has been negated by this one poll.  ::)
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Danny on September 08, 2010, 08:35:16 AM
I guess all the dozens upon dozens of articles, polls and acknowledged fear among Democrats about their prospects in the elections has been negated by this one poll.  ::)

Absolutely not. If you would read my post carefully you would see that I never said anything like that. It is simply an interesting observation that a poll that gave such a large lead to Republicans a week ago or so finds new more even data on a subsequent poll.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: dario73 on September 08, 2010, 08:36:40 AM
This poll is nonsense. Most of the Democratic Party leadeship acknowledge that they will lose the House and that there is a chance, albeit a small chance, that they will lose the Senate.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: BM OUT on September 08, 2010, 08:41:29 AM
You gotta be kidding me. What, now mentioning Palin's name who BTW it looks more and more that she will be a viable Republican candidate should all of a sudden be taboo???  ::)

240 mentionsa Palin in EVERY thread no matter what the topic!And he is a filthy liar who claims to be against amnesty and claims Palin is for it then ,in the next breath claims he voted for Bobb Barr who is for amnesty.He is also the first one on here who will tell you "this thread isnt about that,if you want to talk about that start a new thread".So fuck him and fuck you.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 08:49:21 AM
Study: Democratic turnout for primaries lowest in 80 years
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For the first time since 1930, more Republican voters showed up to vote in statewide primaries this year than Democrats -- another sign of the huge challenges facing President Obama's party in this year's elections.

The new figures come from a just-released report by voter turnout expert Curtis Gans of American University.

Gans looked at 35 primaries held before Sept. 1 and found that 4 million more Republicans voted than Democrats -- statistical proof of the "enthusiasm gap" that pollsters and pundits have been talking about.

That, combined with the fact that the percentage of voters who identify themselves as Democrats has been on a steady decline for decades, spells big trouble for the president's party, Gans said: "The Democrats are at an enormous disadvantage."

This comes after the 2008 election, when all the energy was on the Democratic side. But Gans said he's seen those kinds of turnaround in voter sentiment before. The last time was between the 1992 election when Bill Clinton won the White House and the midterm contests two years later that booted Democrats from power on Capitol Hill.

"This is precisely the kind of disillusion that brought the Democrats down in 1994," Gans said. He blamed the faltering economy for the latest numbers. "What the last 16 months have done is rob the public of the hope that was engendered in 2008," he said.

(Posted by Kathy Kiely)
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2010, 08:52:31 AM
240 mentionsa Palin in EVERY thread no matter what the topic!And he is a filthy liar who claims to be against amnesty and claims Palin is for it then ,in the next breath claims he voted for Bobb Barr who is for amnesty.He is also the first one on here who will tell you "this thread isnt about that,if you want to talk about that start a new thread".So fuck him and fuck you.

Right.  And JOBS is a 3 letter word is highly relevant 2 years later also.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: BM OUT on September 08, 2010, 11:24:15 AM
Right.  And JOBS is a 3 letter word is highly relevant 2 years later also.

Yes and Palins interview with Couric is relevant or if she costed McCain the election[foolish,boring and wrong].I mention that BECAUSE you mention Palin every single day in every single thread.You have a problem that you need help for.

Then again,NOTHING Obama or Biden does is important to you.You just forgive it all but that dam Palin Couric interview is REALLY REALLY important news.What a dolt.Still think Biden is a very intelligent man?
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 11:30:24 AM
Yes and Palins interview with Couric is relevant or if she costed McCain the election[foolish,boring and wrong].I mention that BECAUSE you mention Palin every single day in every single thread.You have a problem that you need help for.

Then again,NOTHING Obama or Biden does is important to you.You just forgive it all but that dam Palin Couric interview is REALLY REALLY important news.What a dolt.Still think Biden is a very intelligent man?

240 has a personal investment in Obama's success since he kneepadded obama like Jenna Jamison for 2 years. 

240's credibility is stacked along with obama's. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2010, 11:31:19 AM
240 has a personal investment in Obama's success since he kneepadded obama like Jenna Jamison for 2 years. 

240's credibility is stacked along with obama's. 

yeah, i've got hope and change smeared all over my face lol
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 11:33:14 AM
yeah, i've got hope and change smeared all over my face lol

You do bro - sad but true.

And when Obama causes Mama Grizzly to be POTUS, I am going to laugh my freaking ass off.   
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2010, 11:39:29 AM
You do bro - sad but true.

And when Obama causes Mama Grizzly to be POTUS, I am going to laugh my freaking ass off.   

just giving her that nickname assigns some sort of cred to her that she's qualified for the job.

repubs shuld be RUNNING from any mention of her, not embracing her silly self-appointed nickname.

I guess they'll find some way to blame the 'lamestream media' for a 2012 obama win - instead of blaming themselves (as they should have in 2012) for just plain putting 2 dumbasses on the ticket...
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: blacken700 on September 08, 2010, 11:42:07 AM
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 11:43:44 AM
just giving her that nickname assigns some sort of cred to her that she's qualified for the job.

repubs shuld be RUNNING from any mention of her, not embracing her silly self-appointed nickname.

I guess they'll find some way to blame the 'lamestream media' for a 2012 obama win - instead of blaming themselves (as they should have in 2012) for just plain putting 2 dumbasses on the ticket...

At the rate obama is going, I think he might resign and let Hillary run in 2012. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 11:44:28 AM


I would take her 24/7/365 over Obama. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 11:57:22 AM
just giving her that nickname assigns some sort of cred to her that she's qualified for the job.

repubs shuld be RUNNING from any mention of her, not embracing her silly self-appointed nickname.

I guess they'll find some way to blame the 'lamestream media' for a 2012 obama win - instead of blaming themselves (as they should have in 2012) for just plain putting 2 dumbasses on the ticket...

And exactly where is this checklist for presidental qualifications that Palin doesn't meet, again?

The man that's supposedly qualified for the job now looks like a bumbling fool. And, he's the one with the Harvard degree and all. If you think that Obama will get re-elected (despite bleeding jobs, sucking up to our enemies, suing our citizens, siding with illegal aliens, and crying like a PUNK when his bone-headed policies don't work) just for the sake of keeping Palin (should she actually run and get the GOP nod), may I suggest you check into rehab.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: BM OUT on September 08, 2010, 11:58:26 AM
just giving her that nickname assigns some sort of cred to her that she's qualified for the job.

repubs shuld be RUNNING from any mention of her, not embracing her silly self-appointed nickname.

I guess they'll find some way to blame the 'lamestream media' for a 2012 obama win - instead of blaming themselves (as they should have in 2012) for just plain putting 2 dumbasses on the ticket...

I cant wait to see you on here the day after the Nov. elections.My bet is you wont put ANY of the blame on Obamas incredibly failed presidency and his radical,stupid,anti American policies.
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 12:02:05 PM
I cant wait to see you on here the day after the Nov. elections.My bet is you wont put ANY of the blame on Obamas incredibly failed presidency and his radical,stupid,anti American policies.

240 no doubt has one of these in the garage. 
Title: Re: new Gallup poll... Republican 10% lead gone??
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2010, 08:22:35 PM
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Republicans  Democrats  Spread
RCP Average 8/25 - 9/5 -- 48.5 41.8 Republicans +6.7
Gallup 8/30 - 9/5 1651 RV 46 46 Tie
Rasmussen Reports 8/30 - 9/5 3500 LV 48 36 Republicans +12
CNN/Opinion Research 9/1 - 9/2 936 RV 52 45 Republicans +7
ABC News/Wash Post 8/30 - 9/2 LV 53 40 Republicans +13
Democracy Corps (D) 8/30 - 9/2 845 LV 49 42 Republicans +7
FOX News 9/1 - 9/2 900 RV 46 37 Republicans +9
USA Today/Gallup 8/27 - 8/30 928 RV 49 43 Republicans +6
Newsweek 8/25 - 8/26 856 RV 45 45 Tie

See All Generic Congressional Vote Polling Data