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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Howard on September 08, 2010, 09:58:07 AM
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I think that the spaceage straight jackets used to bench with now are silly and absurd.
The best raw benchers do a tad over 700 lbs and with a triple ply straight jacket they do 900-1000.
They do aprox 1/3 more wt on avg with a top level shirt.
What's next? Put a heavy duty shock absorber on a guys chest and try to bounce a semi truck off him before we crush him? ::)
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They're GARBAGE
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Retarded. How much of a sense of accomplishment would you have knowing that 200-300lbs of your lift is due to the rubber wrapped around your fat ass? ??? ???
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they hurt to wear.....and the idea behind them is dumb as hell.....
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they should ban them, but some guy wrote an article about wraps in the early 70's wrap up or shut up. that would probably be the opinion of powerlifters now. now it would be shirt up or shut up.
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They bring sponsorer $'s to powerlifing. Since there is much less $ in powerlifting than there is in bodybuilding, they aren't going anywhere like them or not. Personally, I don't like them but they have many raw divisions now so raw is becomming more popular.
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If someone who's maxed out, has a high poundage raw and wants an additional thrill than I can understand it.
Otherwise it sucks.
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I used to wear shirts/suits for years before i realized what a waste they were.
I know my wrists are wrecked from years of insanely heavy board presses and band lockouts with a tight shirt on. A good single ply shirt can add a couple hundred pounds to your raw max when worn correctly.
I would rather lift raw these days, i don't even use wrist wraps anymore.
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I think that the spaceage straight jackets used to bench with now are silly and absurd.
The best raw benchers do a tad over 700 lbs and with a triple ply straight jacket they do 900-1000.
They do aprox 1/3 more wt on avg with a top level shirt.
What's next? Put a heavy duty shock absorber on a guys chest and try to bounce a semi truck off him before we crush him? ::)
The best raw benchers are pressing a tad over 700?Who is doing that?I count two guys,Mendelson and Henderson.
Shirts are here to stay.They have been in the sporet for twenty five years and are going to remain in the sport.If they are so easy to use,put one on,break all the records.
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The best raw benchers are pressing a tad over 700?Who is doing that?I count two guys,Mendelson and Henderson.
Shirts are here to stay.They have been in the sporet for twenty five years and are going to remain in the sport.If they are so easy to use,put one on,break all the records.
So you're saying the record shouldn't be much higher than 700 rather than a ridiculous 2 inch ROM 1000+ ???
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So you're saying the record shouldn't be much higher than 700 rather than a ridiculous 2 inch ROM 1000+ ???
Are shirts legal?Are they part of the sport?
I find it funny that guys who cant bench shit with or without a shirt comment on them.Like I said,put one on,break all the records.Nothing more amusing then seeing bodybuilders talking about bench shirts .I guess synthol,t-3,growth hormone,site injections,fake color,all of that is legit and real.Its bench shirts that are fake.Ha,ha,ha,most here could put on a tripple denim shirt and couldnt bench 400.
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Are shirts legal?Are they part of the sport?
I find it funny that guys who cant bench shit with or without a shirt comment on them.Like I said,put one on,break all the records.Nothing more amusing then seeing bodybuilders talking about bench shirts .I guess synthol,t-3,growth hormone,site injections,fake color,all of that is legit and real.Its bench shirts that are fake.Ha,ha,ha,most here could put on a tripple denim shirt and couldnt bench 400.
LOL triple denim. Why not just use a forklift.
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LOL triple denim. Why not just use a forklift.
LOL synthol,why not just get a prostetic.LOL fake tans,why not just paint yourself another color.LOL T-3 why not just get lyposuction.
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LOL synthol,why not just get a prostetic.LOL fake tans,why not just paint yourself another color.LOL T-3 why not just get lyposuction.
exactly..........all of those things are as stupid as a bench shirt....
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LOL synthol,why not just get a prostetic.LOL fake tans,why not just paint yourself another color.LOL T-3 why not just get lyposuction.
I can agree with this. settle down guy.
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exactly..........all of those things are as stupid as a bench shirt....
The fact is,those who knock them have NEVER used them.Here is a bet.ANYONE on here who can bench over 300[probably a very very few saddly]with no shirt,put one on,film yourself attempting 500.Lets see how you make out.I mean its so easy that you get an automatic 200-300lbs out of wearing one,put one on and prove it.Here is my bet.95% of you will scalp yourselves,the other 5% wont be able to unrack the extra weight.
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Billy - you seem like a big proponent of the bench shirt. Are you a powerlifter?
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The fact is,those who knock them have NEVER used them.Here is a bet.ANYONE on here who can bench over 300[probably a very very few saddly]with no shirt,put one on,film yourself attempting 500.Lets see how you make out.I mean its so easy that you get an automatic 200-300lbs out of wearing one,put one on and prove it.Here is my bet.95% of you will scalp yourselves,the other 5% wont be able to unrack the extra weight.
I'm sure there is a learning curve required.....but that doesn't make them any less stupid
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Billy - you seem like a big proponent of the bench shirt. Are you a powerlifter?
Yes,however,I benched 515 without a shirt in a meet,in a shirt I bench 605.The idea that anyone can put one on and get these magical pounds out of them is silly.The guys that know how to use them are incredibly strong.Im friends with Jason Coker who holds the all time record at 220 with a 900lb bench.I challenge any 220 guy on here to simply unrack 900 and hold it for 10 secods.The guys that are hitting huge numbers with a shirt are strong as hell.Ive been trying to get big numbers out of a shirt for 15 years and I get next to nothing out of them.These guys are no joke.
Why bench shirts are seen as stupid but wrist wraps or knee wraps are not is beyond me.All of these items are used for one reason,to lift bigger weights.
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Billy sells bench shirts.
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Great for equipped lifting, turd for raw lifting.
Really though I have used them a few times before - not used them enough to have a valid opinion.
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Personally i would rather have a 405lb raw bench than a 500+ shirted bench.
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Billy sells bench shirts.
I wish.Those things are pretty steep now.
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Yes,however,I benched 515 without a shirt in a meet,in a shirt I bench 605.The idea that anyone can put one on and get these magical pounds out of them is silly.The guys that know how to use them are incredibly strong.Im friends with Jason Coker who holds the all time record at 220 with a 900lb bench.I challenge any 220 guy on here to simply unrack 900 and hold it for 10 secods.The guys that are hitting huge numbers with a shirt are strong as hell.Ive been trying to get big numbers out of a shirt for 15 years and I get next to nothing out of them.These guys are no joke.
Why bench shirts are seen as stupid but wrist wraps or knee wraps are not is beyond me.All of these items are used for one reason,to lift bigger weights.
You sound just like the pros who claim steroids are just the finishing touch. ::)
"It's easy to be a tough guy over the internet, lets see how many of you are man enough to grease up your pecs and prance around on stage" ::)
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i never understood this bench shirt bullshit i mean, when someone ask you how much you bench and prove it at the gym, do these losers run home and get there spring shirt and show off ??? go raw or go FAWK yourself
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I think that the spaceage straight jackets used to bench with now are silly and absurd.
The best raw benchers do a tad over 700 lbs and with a triple ply straight jacket they do 900-1000.
They do aprox 1/3 more wt on avg with a top level shirt.
What's next? Put a heavy duty shock absorber on a guys chest and try to bounce a semi truck off him before we crush him? ::)
What about squat and deadlifting suits? :D
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Suits - serious business.
Does the suit help me focus more on peak contraction?
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i never understood this bench shirt bullshit i mean, when someone ask you how much you bench and prove it at the gym, do these losers run home and get there spring shirt and show off ??? go raw or go FAWK yourself
Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
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Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
Why not just hook yourself to a machine that lifts for you?
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Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
Powerlifting is for pussies. How about that Billy.
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Why not just hook yourself to a machine that lifts for you?
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Raw benching requires lifting the weight without help! That's fuckin weak bro ::)
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Powerlifting is a joke using shirts and suits...It should all be raw, they claim safety, but why why does the "safety" suit help you lift hundreds of more pounds??
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here's a new rule about belts, wraps, etc..
if you can't wipe your ass in it don't lift in it
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Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
Really? Bill Kazmire benched 661lbs, 300kg without a shirt. What a stupid post.
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Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
I really hope that post was all sarcasm....If not, than turn everything you said around and you had it right
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Raw is the Law! >:(
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Raw is the Law! >:(
What poundages do you lift raw? Another question, have you ever dressed a bench shirt?
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Raw is the Law! >:(
That would be a good anti-condom slogan.
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What poundages do you lift raw? Another question, have you ever dressed a bench shirt?
This part shouldn't even exist.
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What poundages do you lift raw? Another question, have you ever dressed a bench shirt?
Are you serious?
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it's for people with tiny cocks and huge egos
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The best raw benchers are pressing a tad over 700?Who is doing that?I count two guys,Mendelson and Henderson.
Shirts are here to stay.They have been in the sporet for twenty five years and are going to remain in the sport.If they are so easy to use,put one on,break all the records.
1.Yup, the best couple guys is what I meant.
2. Obviously these men are quite stong and can lift impressive wts without any shirt.
It does take technique and I don't do bench contests. I do know that any pc of equipment that adds a good 30-40% is way beyond basic support.
Like it or NOT it gives a large % increase of ARTIFICIAL aid to a lifter.
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Are shirts legal?Are they part of the sport?
I find it funny that guys who cant bench shit with or without a shirt comment on them.Like I said,put one on,break all the records.Nothing more amusing then seeing bodybuilders talking about bench shirts .I guess synthol,t-3,growth hormone,site injections,fake color,all of that is legit and real.Its bench shirts that are fake.Ha,ha,ha,most here could put on a tripple denim shirt and couldnt bench 400.
Yes and most fans watching the pole vault couldn't do 19 ft with the same pole as the Olympic champ.
BUT, how high could he jump without the pole? ;)
You are missing the pt here. Most of the best guys like Ryan Kennely and Mendelson would still be the best guys with or without shirts.
Why even bother having such artificial lifts. Doesn't it make more sense to see what the man alone can do ?
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Raw is for pussies!!Please name ONE all time great that lifted raw.Eddy Coan?Bill Kazmire?Please name one.You know why none of them ever lift raw,because raw sucks and is filled with a bunch of girls who cant make it in big meets.
Why do you resort to name calling.
NOBODY is saying that guys who lift with support gear are pussies. Why do you feel the need to make fun of those who lift raw?
I honestly think most of the best gear support lifters would be the top raw lifters.
Only thing that would change is the winning lift would be a good 30-40% less.
Plus, the equipment companies wouldn't get to sell their stuff. The lifters could save $$.
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At the end of the day powerlifting is still about as interesting as watching dogs fuck. Who gives a shit what they do.
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At the end of the day powerlifting is still about as interesting as watching dogs fuck. Who gives a shit what they do.
LOL, I have seen some dogs go at it and be quite fun to watch.
Look,an indivdual not liking a sport is no basis to blast its' value.
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I am not that big of a guy and my max bench was around 400lbs. I had my powerlifter friends talk me into tryin to bench with a bench shirt...After a few lifts I got use to it and wow I was all the sudden able to bench over 500lbs....No way I could ever bench 500lbs raw the shirts are ridiculous...I don't think they should be allowed
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Raw benching requires lifting the weight without help! That's fuckin weak bro ::)
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I don't get it?
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I don't get it?
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Jesus Christ guys give it a break! Seems like a few times a year someone has to start this thread and everyone vents about powerlifters and using shirts and suit and this and that. Honestly who gives a fuck??? I got a 860 shirted in contest 905 shirted in the gym. I got a 600 Raw in contest 650 raw in the gym as a Super and a 525 raw in contest and a 550 raw in the gym as a 275er.
So again who the fuck cares? Its not your sport, I'm sure most Powerlifters laugh there asses off at you guys. Honestly you ever really sit back and think how GAY bodybuilding is? I dont know any powerlifters who are taking there clothes off for men to pay for their drugs. And dont come at me with oh powerlifters are all fat fucks, BULLSHIT Look a Billy for instance he has done both BB and PL. He had a BB look that most of you only dream of!!!
Give it a Break, seriously!!!
Is that a Meltdown??? Hahaha!!!
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Jesus Christ guys give it a break! Seems like a few times a year someone has to start this thread and everyone vents about powerlifters and using shirts and suit and this and that. Honestly who gives a fuck??? I got a 860 shirted in contest 905 shirted in the gym. I got a 600 Raw in contest 650 raw in the gym as a Super and a 525 raw in contest and a 550 raw in the gym as a 275er.
So again who the fuck cares? Its not your sport, I'm sure most Powerlifters laugh there asses off at you guys. Honestly you ever really sit back and think how GAY bodybuilding is? I dont know any powerlifters who are taking there clothes off for men to pay for their drugs. And dont come at me with oh powerlifters are all fat fucks, BULLSHIT Look a Billy for instance he has done both BB and PL. He had a BB look that most of you only dream of!!!
Give it a Break, seriously!!!
Is that a Meltdown??? Hahaha!!!
yes
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Are shirts legal?Are they part of the sport?
I find it funny that guys who cant bench shit with or without a shirt comment on them.Like I said,put one on,break all the records.Nothing more amusing then seeing bodybuilders talking about bench shirts .I guess synthol,t-3,growth hormone,site injections,fake color,all of that is legit and real.Its bench shirts that are fake.Ha,ha,ha,most here could put on a tripple denim shirt and couldnt bench 400.
Yes,however,I benched 515 without a shirt in a meet,in a shirt I bench 605.The idea that anyone can put one on and get these magical pounds out of them is silly.The guys that know how to use them are incredibly strong.Im friends with Jason Coker who holds the all time record at 220 with a 900lb bench.I challenge any 220 guy on here to simply unrack 900 and hold it for 10 secods.The guys that are hitting huge numbers with a shirt are strong as hell.Ive been trying to get big numbers out of a shirt for 15 years and I get next to nothing out of them.These guys are no joke.
Why bench shirts are seen as stupid but wrist wraps or knee wraps are not is beyond me.All of these items are used for one reason,to lift bigger weights.
Bench shirts? It is cheating, just like drugs. I find it funny that people unable to do anything beyond what their own body is capable of will rationalize taking drugs and/or using a bench shirt. Why not just get a couple of large drug filled friends to assist you with your bench press at meets.
We can call them "Bench Buddies" if it makes you and other like minded people somehow feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel better about your "accomplishments". By the way, I am right about this not because it is I that am saying these words, but because my words are the truth. Don't care for the truth? That goes hand in hand with cheating.
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Jesus Christ guys give it a break! Seems like a few times a year someone has to start this thread and everyone vents about powerlifters and using shirts and suit and this and that. Honestly who gives a fuck??? I got a 860 shirted in contest 905 shirted in the gym. I got a 600 Raw in contest 650 raw in the gym as a Super and a 525 raw in contest and a 550 raw in the gym as a 275er.
So again who the fuck cares? Its not your sport, I'm sure most Powerlifters laugh there asses off at you guys. Honestly you ever really sit back and think how GAY bodybuilding is? I dont know any powerlifters who are taking there clothes off for men to pay for their drugs. And dont come at me with oh powerlifters are all fat fucks, BULLSHIT Look a Billy for instance he has done both BB and PL. He had a BB look that most of you only dream of!!!
Give it a Break, seriously!!!
Is that a Meltdown??? Hahaha!!!
I for one never said anything negative about any powerlfiters. I used to be a powerlifter myself.My issue is with the crazy , inflated amounts lifted with the shirts and supports. Obviously you are a big, powerful man with or without a shirt to bench with. The reality is that by our own post here, the shirt can give you nearly 300 lbs more wt lifted. Doesn't that seem kinda odd to have a device that helps you that much. 600 raw is damn strong and I never understood why anyone that strong would want to use some crazy shirt . Just my 2 cents, but some of you seem quite defensive and tochy on this bench shirt issue.
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With every critique powerlifters face they will say with an elitist attitude shut the fuck up, we don't care, nobody cares, you must be weak. So people have stopped caring. Keep your boring little "sport". Weightlifters and strongmen are stronger and better athletes anyhow.
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With every critique powerlifters face they will say with an elitist attitude shut the fuck up, we don't care, nobody cares, you must be weak. So people have stopped caring. Keep your boring little "sport". Weightlifters and strongmen are stronger and better athletes anyhow.
Not all of us are retarded, fortunately.
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With every critique powerlifters face they will say with an elitist attitude shut the fuck up, we don't care, nobody cares, you must be weak. So people have stopped caring. Keep your boring little "sport". Weightlifters and strongmen are stronger and better athletes anyhow.
The fact is why would you comment if you dont fucking compete in powerlifting and if its boring?Seems like those who rip it are those who didnt have the balls to do it.Weightlifting cant get enough Americans to field a team here.Its dead in the water.Strongmen are certainly better athletes,but it seems EVERYONE of them were former powerlifters.I wonder why they are so strong?
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It's all pretty simple. the only sponsors many powerlifting meets can get are......you guessed it.....the companies that make the suits.
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Its almost as gay as wearing a jockstrap on "leg day". ::)
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its the evolution of the sport like all other sports, equipment gets better, athletic performances get better and so on...
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Fucking little pussies! Powerlifting is the real deal. With a shirt you can put more in the bench? Correct you can... but how many of you pussies here can immediately wear a shirt and add 50kg to your max? No one of you because you would destroy your titty wrists and girly shoulder blades!
Look, you can take the shirt of Scott Mendelson and he will continue to outbench any bber. You can take the suit of Andy Bolton and he will continue to outsquat and deadlift more than any bber. The only one capable of getting near these 2 guys is Stann Efferding, that is what??? Tell me... a POWERLIFTER with a IFBB pro card... ahahahah
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Fucking little pussies! Powerlifting is the real deal. With a shirt you can put more in the bench? Correct you can... but how many of you pussies here can immediately wear a shirt and add 50kg to your max? No one of you because you would destroy your titty wrists and girly shoulder blades!
Look, you can take the shirt of Scott Mendelson and he will continue to outbench any bber. You can take the suit of Andy Bolton and he will continue to outsquat and deadlift more than any bber. The only one capable of getting near these 2 guys is Stann Efferding, that is what??? Tell me... a POWERLIFTER with a IFBB pro card... ahahahah
yes, I don't have the skill needed to operate a forklift. But, I have seen guys lift a lot more useing one then they can lift without it.
I started my bodybuilding when they would often have lifting meets and/or arm wrestling at the BB contest.
Gotta give respect for Stan Eff ! Looks big and lifts big!
I wish I could still do full power meets. Sadly, I blew my back at doing a max dead , 3rd attempt, at a meet when I was in the Marine corps.
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The fact is why would you comment if you dont fucking compete in powerlifting and if its boring?Seems like those who rip it are those who didnt have the balls to do it.Weightlifting cant get enough Americans to field a team here.Its dead in the water.Strongmen are certainly better athletes,but it seems EVERYONE of them were former powerlifters.I wonder why they are so strong?
It's boring because now it's about equipment and skill. How silly can it get...Ah, alas, there's the usual put down, we don't have the balls. Bohoo.
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If you pulled all these guys out of the super suits the honest truth is that most(99.9%) of these guys would only be as strong or even weaker than the raw or 1-ply guys of 30 years ago. If you look at the deadlift which is the only real rawish lift left across powerlifting, the best lifts have only moved up 75-100 pounds in the last 25-30 years and that's with deadlift suits that add on average 50 pounds to the lift. If you left the suits out of Powerlifting, it would be a lot closer to Olympic Lifting, where after you've played with all the drugs and form tweaks, you're still only be adding a few kilos to a total with each generation.
I bet that's got to hurt some of these guys, to know that despite all the layers, all the plys, canvas, denim, lions, tigers and (muscle) bears... oh, my.... they're really no stronger than some old 1970's cat that threw on his old marathon and walked his squats out.