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I'm just curious, are you mad at Bush for not clearly going after Islam after 9/11? Or do you think that's what they were doing while trying to make it look otherwise for PR reasons. There's been one constant theme from those who are anti Islam here. Which is there is no difference between Islam and radical Islam. So clearly you must think that Islam should have been the target from day one after 9/11?
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I'm just curious, are you mad at Bush for not clearly going after Islam after 9/11? Or do you think that's what they were doing while trying to make it look otherwise for PR reasons. There's been one constant theme from those who are anti Islam here. Which is there is no difference between Islam and radical Islam. So clearly you must think that Islam should have been the target from day one after 9/11?
good questions
what about ksa-tricep hes a muslim and look how nice he is
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I'm just curious, are you mad at Bush for not clearly going after Islam after 9/11? Or do you think that's what they were doing while trying to make it look otherwise for PR reasons. There's been one constant theme from those who are anti Islam here. Which is there is no difference between Islam and radical Islam. So clearly you must think that Islam should have been the target from day one after 9/11?
I can't speak for everyone...obviously...b ut I think my sentiment is generally held by many. It's not "Anti-Islam" no one really cares if someone wants to be Islamic or any other religion. It's anti-terrorist, anti-transforming America, anti-idiots and it just so happens that those who are the terrorist, transforming idiots are Muslims.
I'm sure there are people who say "I'm a Muslim" and are in no way a threat to anyone, that's fine, great but that doesn't change the fact that our biggest enemy, the common theme they all carry is they are Muslims, the whole stem of their hate is built around and based on them being Muslims, that is the foundation.
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I can't speak for everyone...obviously...b ut I think my sentiment is generally held by many. It's not "Anti-Islam" no one really cares if someone wants to be Islamic or any other religion. It's anti-terrorist, anti-transforming America, anti-idiots and it just so happens that those who are the terrorist, transforming idiots are Muslims.
I'm sure there are people who say "I'm a Muslim" and are in no way a threat to anyone, that's fine, great but that doesn't change the fact that our biggest enemy, the common theme they all carry is they are Muslims, the whole stem of their hate is built around and based on them being Muslims, that is the foundation.
well, from everything I've read, you sure can't speak for the anti muslim posters here lol.... They make it a big point to attack the religion as a whole, the religion as the enabling force. And they might be right about that. They quote all sorts of shit from the quran that seems to back it up. I just want to know from these people if they feel we should have directly targeted the religion from the start or if they feel that's what we've been doing all along?
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I blame Islam and I blame the leftists in this country for ignoring, enabling, playcating and legitimizing a fanatical religion that preaches death, hate and anti- Americanism wherever it is located.
The religion itself was founded on violence. Its spiritual leader was a violent sociopath who openly engaged in war against those who refused to convert to his gutter religion. When they refused he either let them live provided that they agreed to pay money for the privilege or he butchered his enimies. It's funny that this is never mentioned in any religious text book, history book or taught in any classroom in this country. So of course, it is natural that a religion that was founded on violence by a violent human being would breed an endless army of violent followers.
Every religion has its flaws and every religion has its nut cases. But this is true of all people in all places regardless of whether they believe in God or not. The American left and their network of moral relativist jelly fish take this concept and stretch it to its breaking point. Christianity acknowleges wholeheartedly that it has done some terrible things in the name of God. Jews (the few left alive at this point) have done the same. But Islam, a religion that by any logical measure is the biggest threat to civilized and secular society (TODAY- RIGHT NOW- AT THIS MOMENT) always seems to get a soft reprimand where any and all references to it's obvious gravitation toward extremism ends with a BUT... or ONLY IF.. and the main culprit always seems to be United States foreign policy or Israel.
If your aim is to stop crime, you dedicate your resources to the areas that have the most criminals. If you are fighting a war to win, you seek out the enemy where he is most abundant. Call it a war on Islam, and I have no problem with that. If Islam would police itself and reign in the allegedly small percentage of its radical adherents, there would be no need for the United States to be so proactive. But until then, we should be at war with this culture and ideology on any and all fronts possible. From the court of public opinion, to the court of law, to the battle field-- wherever it may be.
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Great post GW
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I blame Islam and I blame the leftists in this country for ignoring, enabling, playcating and legitimizing a fanatical religion that preaches death, hate and anti- Americanism wherever it is located.
The religion itself was founded on violence. Its spiritual leader was a violent sociopath who openly engaged in war against those who refused to convert to his gutter religion. When they refused he either let them live provided that they agreed to pay money for the privilege or he butchered his enimies. It's funny that this is never mentioned in any religious text book, history book or taught in any classroom in this country. So of course, it is natural that a religion that was founded on violence by a violent human being would breed an endless army of violent followers.
Every religion has its flaws and every religion has its nut cases. But this is true of all people in all places regardless of whether they believe in God or not. The American left and their network of moral relativist jelly fish take this concept and stretch it to its breaking point. Christianity acknowleges wholeheartedly that it has done some terrible things in the name of God. Jews (the few left alive at this point) have done the same. But Islam, a religion that by any logical measure is the biggest threat to civilized and secular society (TODAY- RIGHT NOW- AT THIS MOMENT) always seems to get a soft reprimand where any and all references to it's obvious gravitation toward extremism ends with a BUT... or ONLY IF.. and the main culprit always seems to be United States foreign policy or Israel.
If your aim is to stop crime, you dedicate your resources to the areas that have the most criminals. If you are fighting a war to win, you seek out the enemy where he is most abundant. Call it a war on Islam, and I have no problem with that. If Islam would police itself and reign in the allegedly small percentage of its radical adherents, there would be no need for the United States to be so proactive. But until then, we should be at war with this culture and ideology on any and all fronts possible. From the court of public opinion, to the court of law, to the battle field-- wherever it may be.
I'm reading then that you do think it's a war on Islam and should have been from the start? just correlating your reply with my question. it seems like you hedged a bit so i'm asking.
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I blame Islam and I blame the leftists in this country for ignoring, enabling, playcating and legitimizing a fanatical religion that preaches death, hate and anti- Americanism wherever it is located.
The religion itself was founded on violence. Its spiritual leader was a violent sociopath who openly engaged in war against those who refused to convert to his gutter religion. When they refused he either let them live provided that they agreed to pay money for the privilege or he butchered his enimies. It's funny that this is never mentioned in any religious text book, history book or taught in any classroom in this country. So of course, it is natural that a religion that was founded on violence by a violent human being would breed an endless army of violent followers.
Every religion has its flaws and every religion has its nut cases. But this is true of all people in all places regardless of whether they believe in God or not. The American left and their network of moral relativist jelly fish take this concept and stretch it to its breaking point. Christianity acknowleges wholeheartedly that it has done some terrible things in the name of God. Jews (the few left alive at this point) have done the same. But Islam, a religion that by any logical measure is the biggest threat to civilized and secular society (TODAY- RIGHT NOW- AT THIS MOMENT) always seems to get a soft reprimand where any and all references to it's obvious gravitation toward extremism ends with a BUT... or ONLY IF.. and the main culprit always seems to be United States foreign policy or Israel.
If your aim is to stop crime, you dedicate your resources to the areas that have the most criminals. If you are fighting a war to win, you seek out the enemy where he is most abundant. Call it a war on Islam, and I have no problem with that. If Islam would police itself and reign in the allegedly small percentage of its radical adherents, there would be no need for the United States to be so proactive. But until then, we should be at war with this culture and ideology on any and all fronts possible. From the court of public opinion, to the court of law, to the battle field-- wherever it may be.
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it was a good post, I would say I'm not sure sure christians are willing to admit their past offences as GW said. In all my encounters, they usually dance around it and just brush it off to not counting because it happened long before they were born. That's usually the way it progresses here on getbig too.
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it was a good post, I would say I'm not sure sure christians are willing to admit their past offences as GW said. In all my encounters, they usually dance around it and just brush it off to not counting because it happened long before they were born. That's usually the way it progresses here on getbig too.
I will agree with you on that. It sure never be dismissed offhand, lest we forget the lessons of the past. I think the reason many Christians react that way is because the people pointing it out will just use the past violence as a way to "justify" the current violence of the muslim religion, so they got overly defensive on the subject. If that makes sense...
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I will agree with you on that. It sure never be dismissed offhand, lest we forget the lessons of the past. I think the reason many Christians react that way is because the people pointing it out will just use the past violence as a way to "justify" the current violence of the muslim religion, so they got overly defensive on the subject. If that makes sense...
LOL this, while it is a valid point it is not a valid point in the context that it is brought up...this is like liberals saying well bush did this and bush did that in response to obama being criticized...
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I blame Islam and I blame the leftists in this country for ignoring, enabling, playcating and legitimizing a fanatical religion that preaches death, hate and anti- Americanism wherever it is located.
The religion itself was founded on violence. Its spiritual leader was a violent sociopath who openly engaged in war against those who refused to convert to his gutter religion. When they refused he either let them live provided that they agreed to pay money for the privilege or he butchered his enimies. It's funny that this is never mentioned in any religious text book, history book or taught in any classroom in this country. So of course, it is natural that a religion that was founded on violence by a violent human being would breed an endless army of violent followers.
Every religion has its flaws and every religion has its nut cases. But this is true of all people in all places regardless of whether they believe in God or not. The American left and their network of moral relativist jelly fish take this concept and stretch it to its breaking point. Christianity acknowleges wholeheartedly that it has done some terrible things in the name of God. Jews (the few left alive at this point) have done the same. But Islam, a religion that by any logical measure is the biggest threat to civilized and secular society (TODAY- RIGHT NOW- AT THIS MOMENT) always seems to get a soft reprimand where any and all references to it's obvious gravitation toward extremism ends with a BUT... or ONLY IF.. and the main culprit always seems to be United States foreign policy or Israel.
If your aim is to stop crime, you dedicate your resources to the areas that have the most criminals. If you are fighting a war to win, you seek out the enemy where he is most abundant. Call it a war on Islam, and I have no problem with that. If Islam would police itself and reign in the allegedly small percentage of its radical adherents, there would be no need for the United States to be so proactive. But until then, we should be at war with this culture and ideology on any and all fronts possible. From the court of public opinion, to the court of law, to the battle field-- wherever it may be.
I agree with this 100%.
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I agree with this 100%.
James, that's cool and all but by chance can you give a direct answer to my question? I mean so far everyone just agrees with GW. It was a good post but didn't come right out and firmly state an answer. Do you think we should have been at war with Islam from the start?
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hugo I dont think we are at war with islam, I certainly think that there are certain groups who are islamic that are at war with us and to deny it or dance around it like obama does is plain disingenious.
Although I will say that the sentiment is understandable b/c like ive said for years now there is a hisitancy of those non radicals to condemn the radicals. If you sit there and dont condemn them, then you leave the door open for ppl to project their views on to you rightly or wrongly.
a islamic organization is coming out with a commercial that condemns terrorism etc...has islamist who lost friends and loved ones on 9/11 talking about coming together...
Where was this commercial 9 years ago? where was any notable organization, rally, march, get together of any kind put together by muslims for muslim to condemn radical islam?
well like I said dont just sit there and then complain about the outcome.
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Why the fuck wouldn't we blame Islam for 9/11? The fucking guys who carried out the attack have acknowledged it was done because of Islam!
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I think the muslim religion is a religion of hate, a religion of control, and a religion that teaches if followers not to assimilate. Many Countries in Europe are changing right in front of us, and it is because many people were too complacent when these muslims demanded changes, and I feel that America will eventually follow this same path unless people wake up to what is happening. Just like the many Germans that sat in silence while Hitler did what he did. People need to understand the true dangers that we are facing in allowing muslims to immigrate to new Countries and demand the citizens of that Country change for them, to allow Sharia law, change to accept them) before it is too late. If you want to immigrate to a new Country, you must accept the ways of each country, and not just migrate so that you can prosper financially.
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I think the muslim religion is a religion of hate, a religion of control, and a religion that teaches if followers not to assimilate. Many Countries in Europe are being changing right in front of us, and it is because many people were too complacent when these muslims demanded changes, and I feel that America will eventually follow this same path unless people wake up to what is happening. Just like the many Germans that sat in silence while Hitler did what he did. People need to understand the true dangers that we are facing in allowing muslims to immigrate to new Countries and demand the citizens of that Country change, to allow Sharia law, change to accept them) before it is too late. If you want to immigrate to a new Country, you must accept the ways of each country, and not just migrate so that you can prosper financially.
While the European politicians are nothing more than appeasing dhimmi trash, the European people are slowly waking up. Geert Wilders, whose entire platform is built around anti-Islam, absolutely murdered it in the last Dutch elections. Angela Merkel and other Germans are finally acknowledging that Muslims are not assimilating into their society and that youth violence is a problem. France seems to be taking baby-steps towards the problem with things like banning the hijab (they're still appeasing them on other fronts). 97% of Austrians have a negative opinion of the word "Islam". England, however, is a lost cause.
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I think the muslim religion is a religion of hate, a religion of control, and a religion that teaches if followers not to assimilate. Many Countries in Europe are being changed right in front of us, and it is because many people were too complacent when these muslims demanded changes, and I feel that America will eventually follow this same path unless people wake up to what is happening. Just like the many Germans that sat in silence while Hitler did what he did. People need to understand the true dangers that we are facing in allowing muslims to immigrate to new Countries and demand the citizens of that Country change, to allow Sharia law, change to accept them) before it is too late. If you want to immigrate to a new Country, you must accept the ways of each country, and not just migrate so that you can prosper financially.
Ok, even that fucktard troll BF came up with a direct answer. I appreciate your opinion stated, but do you have a direct answer to my question or not? I'm just busting balls ;D but do you have a direct answer? Go ahead and spit it out directly man ;D I'm didn't start this thread to set anyone up. There is no "ah ha, but" at the end...
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hugo I dont think we are at war with islam, I certainly think that there are certain groups who are islamic that are at war with us and to deny it or dance around it like obama does is plain disingenious.
Although I will say that the sentiment is understandable b/c like ive said for years now there is a hisitancy of those non radicals to condemn the radicals. If you sit there and dont condemn them, then you leave the door open for ppl to project their views on to you rightly or wrongly.
a islamic organization is coming out with a commercial that condemns terrorism etc...has islamist who lost friends and loved ones on 9/11 talking about coming together...
Where was this commercial 9 years ago? where was any notable organization, rally, march, get together of any kind put together by muslims for muslim to condemn radical islam?
well like I said dont just sit there and then complain about the outcome.
here is a direct answer huggy
now do you agree that the muslim community itself is also to blame for this seeing as they dont condemn other muslims?
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here is a direct answer huggy
now do you agree that the muslim community itself is also to blame for this seeing as they dont condemn other muslims?
I have no intention of being an advocate for Islam. I did see your direct answer, sorry I didn't reply, I was just trying to nail down others who didn't give a direct reply.
I will say I'm a bit confused by your words. On one hand you do blame radical muslims while saying we are not and should not(?) be at war with Islam. On the other hand, you tie them all together as accomplices? Officially The United States views accomplices to be just as guilty. So in your question to me, you suggest they are. So I'll ask you again, should we have been at war with Islam from the start?
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here is a direct answer huggy
When I change my name from Hugo, I think I'll go with Huggy lol...
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also a reminder of the original question: It's not are we at war with Islam, I'm asking should we have been at war with Islam from the start. I also asked if you were mad at bush but I'm more interested in wether you think we should have gone after Islam right away. I sense people are a bit leary of giving a direct answer to this question. I don't know why considering what is said on the board daily.
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I posted this in another thread the other day but it's fitting for this one, too.
The trouble with the whole Islam debate is that people persist in mistakenly describing Islam as a religion. Instead, it comprises three components:
1) Religion
2) Government
3) Military
With the first component being a front for the other two. The overarching goal of Islam and Muslims, as dictated in the infallible words of the Koran, is to establish a global caliphate where everyone is subjected to Sharia Law. This is a fact. This is what the Koran dictates. This is what it commands Muslims to go out and accomplish. This is what groups like Al Qaeda and Jemaah Islamiyah seek to do. They interpret the Koran word-for-word and that's why they act like they do.
And, for what it's worth, I would bet that 99.99% of people have no problem with the religious component of Islam. It's the other two that have led to all the problems the world is having with Muslims today.
The funny thing is that if you take away the religious aspect of Islam, you're left with Nazism, Fascism and Totalitarianism rolled up into one ideology.
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I have no intention of being an advocate for Islam. I did see your direct answer, sorry I didn't reply, I was just trying to nail down others who didn't give a direct reply.
I will say I'm a bit confused by your words. On one hand you do blame radical muslims while saying we are not and should not(?) be at war with Islam. On the other hand, you tie them all together as accomplices? Officially The United States views accomplices to be just as guilty. So in your question to me, you suggest they are. So I'll ask you again, should we have been at war with Islam from the start?
no prob
and I am certainly not saying they are accomplices, what im saying is its understandable that ppl would view islam in the way they do as islamist do not condemn radial islam and terrorist act commited in the name of their religion to any noticeable degree.
again why 9 yrs aft 9/11 do they create a commercial to condemn terrorism? what march, rally, organization, get together of any kind by muslums for muslims to condemn radical muslims are there?
if you dont dcondemn it you leave the door open for ppl to project their views onto you rightly or wrongly...
do you think the muslim community has done enough to condemn the acts commited in the name of their religion?
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no prob
and I am certainly not saying they are accomplices, what im saying is its understandable that ppl would view islam in the way they do as islamist do not condemn radial islam and terrorist act commited in the name of their religion to any noticeable degree.
again why 9 yrs aft 9/11 do they create a commercial to condemn terrorism? what march, rally, organization, get together of any kind by muslums for muslims to condemn radical muslims are there?
if you dont dcondemn it you leave the door open for ppl to project their views onto you rightly or wrongly...
do you think the muslim community has done enough to condemn the acts commited in the name of their religion?
was 9/11 done in the name of Islam? I mean muhammad attah wasn't even muslim from accounts of the shit he did before 9/11. Osama made his statements against the "infidels" but his main beef seemed to be that he wanted Americans and Russians out of muslim land. If it was just in the name of Islam, he would have set up the same attack on America even if we were not dealing in muslim lands. Seriously, read through all his bullshit before 9/11. That's about the jist of it. Again, I have no love for Islam and personally think it's freaking retarded, but really are you saying Osama committed all of Islam in what he did? Really?
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James, that's cool and all but by chance can you give a direct answer to my question? I mean so far everyone just agrees with GW. It was a good post but didn't come right out and firmly state an answer. Do you think we should have been at war with Islam from the start?
Islam has been at war with us for quite some time now. As I said, we should have responded in kind from the very beginning, not necessarily with guns, but by matching disinformation and propaganda with truth and facts. Swaying the tide of public opinion goes just as far as guns and bombs. Combating extremism and the Islamist propaganda campaign being waged by Islam and the left can be done with ease by putting the faith and what it teaches under a microscope for the world to see. In plain view of the facts, the notion that Islam is merely a peaceful religion seeking to live in harmony with an anti Islamic world becomes an overwhelmingly dishonest proposition that is impossible to prove. As people begin to pay attention and the world comes to terms with the fact that it has allowed a virus to invade and multiply exponentially-- a virus that takes advantage of free societies that have so far refused vaccination, extremism will be pushed further and further to the margains and our politicians will be forced to acknowledge reality and bend to the will of the people. Assimilate, lay down your arms, stop preaching hate and violence, or leave. Plain and simple. That is the solution.
Instead of accommodating inhumanity and indulging the cult like fanaticism of radical Islam, we should apply pressure in all possible ways to force the so called moderates to become the voice of Islam. Until that day comes (if it ever comes) we should continue to fight on every front possible without compromising a single inch.
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was 9/11 done in the name of Islam? I mean muhammad attah wasn't even muslim from accounts of the shit he did before 9/11. Osama made his statements against the "infidels" but his main beef seemed to be that he wanted Americans and Russians out of muslim land. If it was just in the name of Islam, he would have set up the same attack on America even if we were not dealing in muslim lands. Seriously, read through all his bullshit before 9/11. That's about the jist of it. Again, I have no love for Islam and personally think it's freaking retarded, but really are you saying Osama committed all of Islam in what he did? Really?
im not quite sure what youre asking there?
so he wanted us out of muslim lands but its not about islam? LOL
sorry huggy the 9/11 attacks had a lot to do with islam and muslims...so yes those who are in the community that oppose such actions and think that it paints their religion in a bad light should object and do so publicly....
again do you think that the muslim community has done enough to condemn the actions of those terrorists who commit violence in the name of their religion?
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im not quite sure what youre asking there?
so he wanted us out of muslim lands but its not about islam? LOL
sorry huggy the 9/11 attacks had a lot to do with islam and muslims...so yes those who are in the community that oppose such actions and think that it paints their religion in a bad light should object and do so publicly....
again do you think that the muslim community has done enough to condemn the actions of those terrorists who commit violence in the name of their religion?
well in the region he was talking about at the time. I believe his major beefs were Afghanistan and Saudi. No that wouldn't make it about Islam just because the population of those lands is islamic. for the purpose of my statement It's a descriptive, a truth of those lands. You didn't go and see him raise a fuss for Malaysia or some shit. You see what I'm talking about?
Ok, on your last question, lets go back to what happened after 9/11. What you know is what the media delivered to you here. What you probably did not know is that, well lets take Iran for example, I'm sure you probably think they erupted in joy after 9/11. they're mostly Islamic, the population there is huge and they don't have a good history with us. So they probably either cheered and or refused to condemn right? Well you would be flat ass wrong about that. There was a huge outpoor of condemnation from the people of Iran initially after 9/11. Even the leadership there condemned the actions and in the next months offered their support in dealing with Afghanistan. But then your hero and chief up and decided right in the middle of this to publically denounce Iran and openly brand them as part of the axis of evil. Of course those words brought an instant halt to any open doors with Iran than could have been expanded and built upon at that point and I have a fucking shitload of info into the whys of that which I'm sure you don't want to here and at this point, I'm done risking saying.
Also, plenty of muslim leaders did come out and denounce the actions of 9/11 in America... Even Bush stood their with a whole group of them to do just that.
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For Tony:
I remember some other footage and I'll try to find it if I can.
Here's one:
One condemning violence not long before 9/11
Holy shit, this is the first time I've started to look for muslims condemning the terrorists.... I've never even looked before, there's a shit load of videos. I got these from the first half page of relust in my search.
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Why the fuck wouldn't we blame Islam for 9/11? The fucking guys who carried out the attack have acknowledged it was done because of Islam!
Oh look...The neighborhood IDIOT chimes in again. Hello FUCKTARD...please show us all the links or articles or anything that says these supposed "guys" acknowledge the attack and that they claimed they did it because of Islam.
Amazing how many of the retards like yourself self fabricate scenarios and history to justify your opinion on a matter...
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Oh look...The neighborhood IDIOT chimes in again. Hello FUCKTARD...please show us all the links or articles or anything that says these supposed "guys" acknowledge the attack and that they claimed they did it because of Islam.
Amazing how many of the retards like yourself self fabricate scenarios and history to justify your opinion on a matter...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Coming from you, who outright lied about that music CD, along with all the other lies you've been caught out in ,*cough* Sorcha Faal *cough*, shouldn't be calling anyone out on what you think is a lie. You're an islamonazi gimmick and a propaganda machine and I'm definitely not your personal army so you can do your own research. But I suspect Sorcha Faal and co. don't report on things like that. :-\
And did Hugo really just post a CAIR video? Really? You can't be seriously posting CAIR clips to prove your point. Talk about opinionated bullshit and typical liberal agenda pushing.
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es. It's funny that this is never mentioned in any religious text book, history book or taught in any classroom in this country.
so it immediately begs the question
how do you come to know about it? ;D
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SAMSON the ape is right. The 911 hijackers were just really committed political activists that were exercising their right to engage in political protest. Actually, all of the hijackers were Israeli agents that agreed to take part in the attacks to help the zionist cause. Actually 911 was an inside job committed by rogue elements within the American government. Actually, the twin towers were wired with dynamite and were taken down by property developer Larry Silverstein. Actually, 911 never really happened.
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so it immediately begs the question
how do you come to know about it? ;D
I didn't learn about Islam inside a classroom. I researched it on my own. That, and also I am an Israeli agent committed to the Zionist cause. In our daily propaganda meetings, we are indoctrinated with lies about Islam and part of my mission is to infiltrate getbig.com and turn the juice head community against Islam.
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hahaha, they're fucking even singing songs about it tony... Maybe at some point you should start asking why you and I haven't heard of the condemnation rather than just assuming it's not there. We both know our media sucks ass, when it's not a major story, they flip right away to some hollywood bullshit. This is still from the first page of results in my search. Lets see if I can get to page two.
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SAMSON the ape is right. The 911 hijackers were just really committed political activists that were exercising their right to engage in political protest. Actually, all of the hijackers were Israeli agents that agreed to take part in the attacks to help the zionist cause. Actually 911 was an inside job committed by rogue elements within the American government. Actually, the twin towers were wired with dynamite and were taken down by property developer Larry Silverstein. Actually, 911 never really happened.
no...we just happen to have one of the most incompetent military/air defence (NORAD etc) on the planet....
the best of the best technology...can photograph the dick off a humming bird from space ...planes that do over mach 3...yet failed to stop 17 or so uneducated 3rd world low IQ retards from conduction the greatest terrorist mass executions in history...AND ON OUR SOIL....
either something ws fishy...or if nothing ws fishy...then our military is useless even against 3rd world barely functional retards :-\
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I researched it on my own.
without books eh! research without books...
...environmental osmosis or is it an israeli zionist yoda mind meldy thingy?
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Or maybe he knows how to use google. ::)
ooo yeah...the internet...a wealth of logic and truth...the TO GO place for people doing proper unbiased research eh nick hershy! ;)
apparently every expert on islam is a christian or a jew! 8)
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ooo yeah...the internet...a wealth of logic and truth...the TO GO place for people doing proper unbiased research eh nick hershy! ;)
This is too rich. You can say that about anything, including history books. ::)
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^ That and also you have a brutal reading comprehension problem.
What I said was that no classroom in this country has/ teaches from the books that contain the truth. But these books certainly exist dumbass. It's more thought police censorship. Rest assured there is plenty of class time spent on demonzing Christianity though-- so no worries.
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BF, I told you if I see your trolling bullshit, it's out of here. You want to participate, calm the fuck down and talk. You just want to bait a fight, you just want to flame only, you're not going to be able to do that when I'm around. I WILL JUST DELETE YOUR SHIT OVER AND OVER. Take it to another board if that's what you want. all these other people here are cool. You're the only one striking out for a meltdown. wrong forum for that and I'm about done telling you it.
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This is too rich. You can say that about anything, including history books. ::)
yeah u can...but you couldn't do better than point to the easiest target in my argument...ie history books ::)
if he has read the koran ...supplied from a mosque...the proper translation..and STILL has come to the same conclusion i'd have said "fair play"
but he hasn't read ANY books to come to the conclusion...if he hasn't read the koran then he's only reading other peoples "opinions" of it ...and lemme guess..the opinions he reads more often than not come from Islam haters
so his argument is immediately invalid...thats like me telling you all about paris and writing a travel book about paris without having been there ;)
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^ That and also you have a brutal reading comprehension problem.
What I said was that no classroom in this country has/ teaches from the books that contain the truth. But these books certainly exist dumbass. It's more thought police censorship. Rest assured there is plenty of class time spent on demonzing Christianity though-- so no worries.
These guys posts are reading like something right off of CNN. It's the exact same agenda that the opinion elites are trying to shove down our throats (which is being rejected by more and more people).
Hell, we've got one guy actually posting CAIR clips to prove his point. LOL!
And no, Hugo. I'm not baiting a fight. You obviously don't know what you're talking about if you're posting CAIR clips and it's clear that you have done next to research on anything regarding this topic. You might want to look into CAIR and some of the things they've done (like their leader's Islamic supremacist statements, the fact they refuse to outright denounce terrorism and are unindicted co-conspirators in terror-funding cases, that multiple people from their organization are now doing time in jail for terrorists and financing it and on and on and on and on and on) before you try to shove your crap down our throats.
You come off as widely uninformed on anything regarding this topic and just regurgitate the same points those in the MSM are constantly making.
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^ That and also you have a brutal reading comprehension problem.
What I said was that no classroom in this country has/ teaches from the books that contain the truth. But these books certainly exist dumbass. It's more thought police censorship. Rest assured there is plenty of class time spent on demonzing Christianity though-- so no worries.
ok ...another chance...did you read the koran to come to your conclusions...
yes or no answer will suffice...
you either read it...or you r ONLY relying on other peoples opinion of the book...
argument over
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ok ...another chance...did you read the koran to come to your conclusions...
yes or no answer will suffice...
you either read it...or you r ONLY relying on other peoples opinion of the book...
argument over
I've read it. Including the 164 or so verses advocating violence against non-Muslims and jihad.
Have you read it? I know you haven't read the Hadith as you didn't know that Moohammed married a 6-year-old girl and fucked her at 9 (which is well documented in it).
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I've read it. Including the 164 or so verses advocating violence against non-Muslims and jihad.
Have you read it? I know you haven't read the Hadith as you didn't know that Moohammed married a 6-year-old girl and fucked her at 9 (which is well documented in it).
knowing your track record at being a world class liar...who asked you?
you are the same guy whose # ws posted on some site and got calls from people asking to have phone sex with your mom upon which mommy and daddy forbade you to post on getbig...
who said u have credence here?
and oh..when you say you have read it...you dont need to add 164 verses etc etc...read it MEANS read the whole thing dumbass
The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346..i bet you those violent verses each come after 50 verses each urging to lead by example and be patient and try your best to find a peacefull resolution...
and NO you have NOT read the koran...you r the same pathetic loser that got beat up by his own team in the locker room at uconn...so forgive me..i dont believe pathetic
i would believe georgewhorewell though
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Nice meltdown. Reads like one gigantic excuse.
Have your or have you not read the Koran recently? You haven't read the Hadith and I seriously doubt you've read the Koran. Maybe when you were a kid but you're a fried junkie and I would guarantee you haven't opened it in at least 15-20 years.
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Because I'm in the mood to embarrass you, Junaids, here's some statistical info to refute your trash:
How many verses in the Quran are positive for non-Muslims?
The answer is 245. That’s pretty good. That adds up to 4,018 words in the Quran, and comprises 2.6 percent of the total Quranic text.
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Nice meltdown. Reads like one gigantic excuse.
Have your or have you not read the Koran recently? You haven't read the Hadith and I seriously doubt you've read the Koran. Maybe when you were a kid but you're a fried junkie and I would guarantee you haven't opened it in at least 15-20 years.
post 1...bitchfury starts grinding teeth! ;D
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Coming from you, who outright lied about that music CD, along with all the other lies you've been caught out in ,*cough* Sorcha Faal *cough*, shouldn't be calling anyone out on what you think is a lie. You're an islamonazi gimmick and a propaganda machine and I'm definitely not your personal army so you can do your own research. But I suspect Sorcha Faal and co. don't report on things like that. :-\
And did Hugo really just post a CAIR video? Really? You can't be seriously posting CAIR clips to prove your point. Talk about opinionated bullshit and typical liberal agenda pushing.
Just produce the links ass wipe and avoid your usual bullshit avoidance technique when asked to produce facts. Are you and 3 the same person?
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Still not answering the question. I'll take that to mean, "No".
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Because I'm in the mood to embarrass you, Junaids, here's some statistical info to refute your trash:
How many verses in the Quran are positive for non-Muslims?
The answer is 245. That’s pretty good. That adds up to 4,018 words in the Quran, and comprises 2.6 percent of the total Quranic text.
immediate post 2....meltdown! ;D
go google some christian fundie site and post 5 more times and give us irrefutable proof that islam is EVIL which makes 1.8 terrorists on the planet!
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immediate post 2....meltdown! ;D
go google some christian fundie site and post 5 more times and give us irrefutable proof that islam is EVIL which makes 1.8 terrorists on the planet!
That's your fourth post avoiding my question. Think we all know why. ;D
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Still not answering the question. I'll take that to mean, "No".
nickhershy squirt...listen carefully..cause you seem not to understand...you have no credence in my eyes...
i didn't even bother reading your post carefully ...which i assume had a question...i wont be answering ANY questions u have
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I don't even know what a CAIR clip is. I don't know what CAIR is. The only thing I thought I was doing was posted all the videos I could find PER REQUESTED OF ME BY TONY. So I was just going down the line and posting what I found. If there was a bogus clip, I didn't post in knowing ::)
AND YES, you are a tolling sack of shit and you know it and I am going to end you here if you keep the crap up.
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I don't even know what a CAIR clip is. I don't know what CAIR is. The only thing I thought I was doing was posted all the videos I could find PER REQUESTED OF ME BY TONY. So I was just going down the line and posting what I found.
AND YES, you are a tolling sack of shit and you know it and I am going to end you here if you keep the crap up.
Again, there's nothing trolling about my posts. You don't agree with what I post so you call it trolling. Don't try to act like that's not what you're doing.
You really have no business moderating this board. You're not active and you're far too emotional to actually uphold the rules listed in the thread on top. Go back to being inactive. Everyone will agree that this board is better when you're not around. Beach Bum and Ozmo are far more grounded and mature and don't throw a tiff with deleting posts every time someone disagrees with them or proves them wrong.
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Again, there's nothing trolling about my posts. You don't agree with what I post so you call it trolling. Don't try to act like that's not what you're doing.
You really have no business moderating this board. You're not active and you're far too emotional to actually uphold the rules listed in the thread on top.
fuck off, there's everything trolling about everything you frucking post. Come on, I disagree with many others here, why is it that you're the only fucktard that I constantly delete, move and threaten to ban. Plenty others piss me off, that's not why. It's because you're a fucking troll and the only thing you're trying to do now is worm your way out of that fact in true troll fashion. Keep your shit up and I'm serious, you're done here forever. No more 30 days, either you will go forever or I go. That's what it will come down to if you keep up your trolling crap. And enough of the religoius crusades here too, take it to the religious forum if that's the only think you want to post about.
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fuck off, there's everything trolling about everything you frucking post. Come on, I disagree with many others here, why is it that you're the only fucktard that I constantly delete, move and threaten to ban. Plenty others piss me off, that's not why. It's because you're a fucking troll and the only thing you're trying to do now is worm your way out of that fact in true troll fashion. Keep your shit up and I'm serious, you're done here forever. No more 30 days, either you will go forever or I go. That's what it will come down to if you keep up your trolling crap. And enough of the religoius crusades here too, take it to the religious forum if that's the only think you want to post about.
want "someone" to post his home digits on craigs list again hugo? ;D
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want "someone" to post his home digits on craigs list again hugo? ;D
Not sure about Fla or Conn.....but I'm glad in NC, my state, that this would constitute stalking.....
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And BF, If you keep reposting what I've moved, I'm going to ban you for that and like I said, I'm fucking done with the thirdy days bullshit with you. Your ass is gone and I'll be happy to do it. If you have a problem, go ask Ron about it and that's the only way I'll change my mind here, If Ron asks me not to ban you forever. Otherwise, you're done... Up to you.... Oh, and I won't play along with your gimmick like the last ban... That was obvious.
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And BF, If you keep reposting what I've moved, I'm going to ban you for that and like I said, I'm fucking done with the thirdy days bullshit with you. Your ass is gone and I'll be happy to do it. If you have a problem, go ask Ron about it and that's the only way I'll change my mind here, If Ron asks me not to ban you forever. Otherwise, you're done... Up to you.... Oh, and I won't play along with your gimmick like the last ban... That was obvious.
You have no reason to move it and you're doing it because of your agenda. It's a political thread and you know it. Terrorism is a political issue.
Stop being a fucking baby who can't handle criticism. You do this same thing every time you get all bent out of shape here. Act like a man and not a kid for once.
If it wasn't a political thread and you weren't moving it because of your agenda, why did you log 1/2 a dozen posts in it and then move it 3 hours after it went up and right when you started getting all bent out of shape in this thread? Enlighten me. :D
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Not sure about Fla or Conn.....but I'm glad in NC, my state, that this would constitute stalking.....
who asked you? that comment ws directed at bitchfury ???
mr disappeared from getbig for around 6ish months after the sound pwning toxic handed him! ;D
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You have no reason to move it and you're doing it because of your agenda. It's a political thread and you know it. Terrorism is a political issue.
Stop being a fucking baby who can't handle criticism. You do this same thing every time you get all bent out of shape here. Act like a man and not a kid for once.
If it wasn't a political thread and you weren't moving it because of your agenda, why did you log 1/2 a dozen posts in it and then move it 3 hours after it went up? Enlighten me.
man you got the snivelling little pissant 2 faced snake act down to an art dontcha
learned from mom or dad?
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want "someone" to post his home digits on craigs list again hugo? ;D
If I were single without a family and responsibity, I would absolutely love to take you up on that offer. But not a good idea at this point in my life. I would have loved to have a few moments with him at one time, at this point it wouldn't be fair to my little girl and wife. They don't need to read about me smearing some assfuck into the ground and going to prison lol....
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Hahaha, it's absolutely hilarious watching two men in their 30s act like this. Hugo might be a douche but at least he doesn't live with mommy and daddy at 35 years old while having 3 trips to rehab under his belt.
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who asked you? that comment ws directed at bitchfury ???
mr disappeared from getbig for around 6ish months after the sound pwning toxic handed him! ;D
Easy now Count Pakula.... ;D I just don't care for the "outing" garbage. Its hurt this site over the years.
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You have no reason to move it and you're doing it because of your agenda. It's a political thread and you know it. Terrorism is a political issue.
Stop being a fucking baby who can't handle criticism. You do this same thing every time you get all bent out of shape here. Act like a man and not a kid for once.
If it wasn't a political thread and you weren't moving it because of your agenda, why did you log 1/2 a dozen posts in it and then move it 3 hours after it went up and right when you started getting all bent out of shape in this thread? Enlighten me. :D
If it's because of my agenda, then why am I leaving similar threads by other people? I'll tell you why you freaking idiot. Clearly you didn't read the thread I left sticked for several days? If it looks like you're on a crusade, if that's all you seem to post about, you're in the wrong forum. Consider it a new rule fool. You better get some new material.
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Easy now Count Pakula.... ;D I just don't care for the "outing" garbage. Its hurt this site over the years.
hey i never said it ws me...and in return i actually posted my home number on getbig and even pmed bitchfury my #...
it never called :( i had my lotion ready n all
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If it's because of my agenda, then why am I leaving similar threads by other people? I'll tell you why you freaking idiot. Clearly you didn't read the thread I left sticked for several days? If it looks like you're on a crusade, if that's all you seem to post about, you're in the wrong forum. Consider it a new rule fool. You better get some new material.
Nice try. You logged 1/2 a dozen posts in it and left it up for 3+ hours, only moving it after you started crying in this thread.
It's a political thread. We all know it. You do this every time you throw a temper tantrum on here. In-fact, you did it the other day with one of 333's threads. You are very poor at handling adversity and criticism.
Try to spin it anyway you want. We all know why you're deleting it. This is the game you play and how you abuse your moderator position.
You were the first person to post in that thread and obviously read it within 5 minutes of it going up. You then logged another 4-5 posts in it. Why wait 3 hours to delete it if it didn't have anything to do with this thread and how pissed off you are? And the best part is that you, a moderator here, were the one to derail the topic of it to boot. Try to spin that, please.
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Nice try. You logged 1/2 a dozen posts in it and left it up for 3+ hours, only moving it after you started crying in this thread.
It's a political thread. We all know it. You do this every time you throw a temper tantrum on here. In-fact, you did it the other day with one of 333's threads. You are very poor at handling adversity and criticism.
::) oh brother, that's common before moving a thread you idiot. Unless it's wildly off topic like posting on Lady Gaga in Political, it's considered by mods a courtesy to let it stand a bit then move it. I've had many conversations with others about doing just that before moving it later. I've been arguing with you since you fucking logged on. you can't just pick any moment and say that's when I decided to move your threads ::) You really are a super mega troll and seriously, the best I've ever seen. That's about the only compliment you'll get from me and only because it's true.
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::) oh brother, that's common before moving a thread you idiot. Unless it's wildly off topic like posting on Lady Gaga in Political, it's considered by mods a courtsy to let it stand a bit then move it. I've had many conversations with others about doing just that before moving it later. I've been arguing with you since you fucking logged on. you can't just pick any moment and say that's when I decided to move your threads ::) You really are a super mega troll and seriously, the best I've ever seen. That's about the only compliment you'll get from me and only because it's true.
Hahaha, and I've got a bridge I want to sell you. You are very, very good at lying through your teeth. I'll give you that.
Methinks you just like the attention.
Edit: The most ironic thing here is that this very thread belongs on the religion board more than any other thread on this board right now.
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Hahaha, and I've got a bridge I want to sell you. You are very, very good at lying through your teeth. I'll give you that.
Methinks you just like the attention.
Whatever you want to spew troll. I'm out for the rest of the day... and please by all means repost the shit I moved. I would absolutely love to come back and see a reason for this forum to be done with you.
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Whatever you want to spew troll. I'm out for the rest of the day... and please by all means repost the shit I moved. I would absolutely love to come back and see a reason for this forum to be done with you.
The most ironic thing here is that this very thread belongs on the religion board more than any other thread on this board right now. This thread is strictly religious. You asked a question about Islam. Not Islam in politics or terrorism or anything of the sort. Strictly about Islam.
Nice threat, though. Are you saying that if I were to go to Ron that you'll ban me? Hahaha, someone seems to think that he owns Getbig. I'm sure Ron would love to know that he's taking his orders from you. Maybe i should test this theory of yours, though.
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doesn't matter, it's all you post on so I'm ending your crusade. All your threads go the same way, post on whatever Islamic topic you can with a political side and then watch the thread erupt into attacks on the religion. I've watched it over and over. The focus almost always goes to the religious aspects. So when that's all you're starting threads about, like I said, I'm going to end your crusade here. The others I have not moved because they post on a little of everything. you BF are on a crusade against a religion and you're on the wrong forum to do that. I'm out for the day, seeya....
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Hahaha, this is playing out just like in the MSM. Can't hold your own and you disagree with my points so you destroy the 1st amendment. Sorry, Hugo. Your own rules state that terrorism is a valid topic. Just like political Islam is, as well.
Religious aspects? I never talk about the religious aspects of Islam as they don't interest me. Sharia law and political Islam are not religious. Terrorism is not religious. Please stop lying through your teeth. It's just sad now.
You need to go away again. Or give up your moderator position. One or the other.
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ok ...another chance...did you read the koran to come to your conclusions...
yes or no answer will suffice...
you either read it...or you r ONLY relying on other peoples opinion of the book...
argument over
I have examined many passages from the Koran. No, I have not read the entire Koran ( why would I? I'm Christian and I've never read the Bible from cover to cover either). Also, since most of the worlds Korans are written in Arabic ( a language most Muslims can't speak or read) most Muslims have never read the Koran in its entirety either. Your point is so stupid that it's actually sad. And yes, this argument is over because I don't waste my energy debating with individuals that have the IQ of a jar of mayonnaise.
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For Tony:
One condemning violence not long before 9/11
Holy shit, this is the first time I've started to look for muslims condemning the terrorists.... I've never even looked before, there's a shit load of videos. I got these from the first half page of relust in my search.
I think you misunderstood my hugo, i never said that there wasnt any protest or organizations against terrorism...my point is that there isnt enough of them to make a difference...you have a couple of organizations of which cair is one that does promote speaking out against it...my point is the muslim community the muslim ppl do not condemn terrorist acts as they should.
you can ask protein as he has from time to time tried to explain why that might be...
do you think the muslim community has condemned terrorism in the name of islam to any recognizable extent?
I agree that it is only what is shown but you get a march big enough and the news will cover it, you put out commercials and ppl will see them...
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I have examined many passages from the Koran. No, I have not read the entire Koran ( why would I? I'm Christian and I've never read the Bible from cover to cover either). Also, since most of the worlds Korans are written in Arabic ( a language most Muslims can't speak or read) most Muslims have never read the Koran in its entirety either. Your point is so stupid that it's actually sad. And yes, this argument is over because I don't waste my energy debating with individuals that have the IQ of a jar of mayonnaise.
touche...so your argument of a book is based on the FACT that you have only read some of it...
brilliant...
as for debating me...you cant..you have no ground to stand on as far as the book is concerned...so you must call it a stupid argument and run 8)
aint logic a bitch to ya bible thumpers?
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Another stupid argument by another clueless douchebag.
Have you ever read the Koran from start to finish? If so, please tell us about it. Enlighten us to the words of the almighty. If not, shut the fuck up and go back into your cage. Brutally poor attempt at launching a half assed and irrelevant argument.
And BTW I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but wtf does me reading the entire Koran have to do with my criticism of how those who follow Islam behave?
What possible value could be discerned from reading something that most Muslims have never read? Please explain to me in detail how reading every syllable of the Koran is supposed to show me something relevant to what is happening in our world at this moment.
And like most Muslims, you clearly don't know how to read. I am not a bible thumper. I am not even religious. If you read my prior posting, I said explicitly that I had never read the entire BIBLE either.
Clearly, you don't know what the word logic means.
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Another stupid argument by another clueless douchebag.
Have you ever read the Koran from start to finish? If so, please tell us about it. Enlighten us to the words of the almighty. If not, shut the fuck up and go back into your cage. Brutally poor attempt at launching a half assed and irrelevant argument.
And BTW I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but wtf does me reading the entire Koran have to do with my criticism of how those who follow Islam behave?
What possible value could be discerned from reading something that most Muslims have never read? Please explain to me in detail how reading every syllable of the Koran is supposed to show me something relevant to what is happening in our world at this moment.
And like most Muslims, you clearly don't know how to read. I am not a bible thumper. I am not even religious. If you read my prior posting, I said explicitly that I had never read the entire BIBLE either.
Clearly, you don't know what the word logic means.
ouch....call Mr self proclaimed "balanced level headed smart guy" an idiot and it bursts into flames...
but i'll bother explaining in a few lines since you need the baby sitting(i'm used to baby sitting inferior IQs! ;D). The question is whether Islam in itself an evil religion...which would make the koran an evil book. If the doing of extremist muslims are not related to the koran then islam inherently is not evil. If the doings of extremist muslims r koranic based then you must have had to read the koran to make a judgement...either way , whether they r following the koran or not
see dumbie...simple...but as i have known already...any type of religious fundie (christian, muslim or jew) would find logic infuriating..which u do! :-*
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knowing your track record at being a world class liar...who asked you?
you are the same guy whose # ws posted on some site and got calls from people asking to have phone sex with your mom upon which mommy and daddy forbade you to post on getbig...
who said u have credence here?
and oh..when you say you have read it...you dont need to add 164 verses etc etc...read it MEANS read the whole thing dumbass
The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346..i bet you those violent verses each come after 50 verses each urging to lead by example and be patient and try your best to find a peacefull resolution...
and NO you have NOT read the koran...you r the same pathetic loser that got beat up by his own team in the locker room at uconn...so forgive me..i dont believe pathetic
i would believe georgewhorewell though
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The funniest thing about your post is your from Pakistan right? Your parents are Muslims right? Ever heard of abrogation? Yeah if the violent passage comes after the other 50 peaceful one, guess which one is followed. Don't take my word for it, look it up.
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I don't think the question is very clear. How could we declare war on Islam? We can target a country, terrorist group, etc., but a religion? Is that even possible?
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I don't think the question is very clear. How could we declare war on Islam? We can target a country, terrorist group, etc., but a religion? Is that even possible?
We can create a target that specifies anyone who carries the title "muslim" that they should be looked at. Thing is, and I just said this in another post a minute ago, a lot of Muslims have no idea what they're buying into, especially here in the states. They buy in to "The Religion of Peace" with no idea about the political and social factor that is equally entrenched in Islam.
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We can create a target that specifies anyone who carries the title "muslim" that they should be looked at. Thing is, and I just said this in another post a minute ago, a lot of Muslims have no idea what they're buying into, especially here in the states. They buy in to "The Religion of Peace" with no idea about the political and social factor that is equally entrenched in Islam.
Doesn't sound like a very clear target. If we're talking about military action, I don't see how that's possible.
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Doesn't sound like a very clear target. If we're talking about military action, I don't see how that's possible.
Clear like our invasion of Germany? No, it's not and that makes the whole thing a lot harder.
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Clear like our invasion of Germany? No, it's not and that makes the whole thing a lot harder.
Clear like every other war or combat mission. In Iraq we went in to remove Saddam. In Afghanistan we went after Al Qaeda and the Taliban. In Panama we went in to remove Noriega. Etc., etc. If we're going to war with "Islam," what exactly is our military target?
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After all the terrorism, death, bombings and destruction.....the United Nations gave Yasser Arafat a platform on which to speak, thus legitimizing the original godless, greedy, inhuman, sociopathic terrorist.
After all of his butchering, death, terror bombings and the like......he was given the gift of a free platform at the United Nations....
You want the beginning of it all? Well..........there you fucking go.
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Gigantor you are wrong! ::)
Unless you have read the Koran from cover to cover, you have no right to ciritcize Islam!
Whatever the effects of muslims radicalized based on words they themselves never read (because they cant read or speak arabic), you have no right to challenge the behavior of these individuals.
As a paralell comparison supported by toxic and straw, you cannot claim you are a heterosexual until you willingly allow a gay person to sodimize you repeatedly. Until you give into non consensual sodomy, you are forbidden to proclaim you are a heterosexual. After all, until you are ass raped, how would you ever understand the rapists point of view?!
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The funniest thing about your post is your from Pakistan right? Your parents are Muslims right? Ever heard of abrogation? Yeah if the violent passage comes after the other 50 peaceful one, guess which one is followed. Don't take my word for it, look it up.
yes i know what abrogation is...but thats besides the point...you want me to retype all that i have been saying for the past several posts?
i'll keep it short ..one last time...i never questioned the FACT that muslims have done evil things in the name of islam...what i ws challenging ws whether the koran ws an evil book deemed evil by someone that had not read it...
got it?..cause i honestly cant dumb it down any further
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Unless you have read the Koran from cover to cover, you have no right to ciritcize Islam!
o you have every right to....everyone is allowed to be a dumbass by making judgements without looking at evidence...you have every right to..thats whats great about this country...even functional retards have a shot of being productive citizens!