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Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program
CNS News ^ | September 13, 2010
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The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex. The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011...
Because AIDS researchers have been unsuccessful in convincing most adult African men to undergo circumcision, the UCLA study proposes to determine whether researchers can develop an after-sex genitalia-washing regimen that they can then convince uncircumcised African men to follow...
The study’s lead investigator Dr. Thomas J. Coates was the fourth highest-funded researcher in the country in 2002 and is currently conducting HIV research on three continents. CNSNews.com asked both Coates and NIMH the following question: “The Census Bureau says the median household income in the United States is $52,000. How would you explain to the average American mom and dad -- who make $52,000 per year -- that taxing them to pay for this grant was justified?”
Coates, who was unavailable for comment, directed CNSNews.com to ask grant-related questions of his assistant, Darya Freedman, who did not respond. The NIMH also declined to respond to CNSNews.com’s question.
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Your tax dollars at work.
And you idiots wonder why UE is still going up?
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How does this help the American economy? ???
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How does this help the American economy? ???
It doesnt - its more money down the rat hole.
But oh blasphemy if someone ever calls for cutting govt. ::) ::)
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How does this help the American economy? ???
Because the dirty African penis epidemic is the main reason our economy is in the toilet...everyone knows this.
If we can get Africans to wash their genitals and if we can make Muslims feel good about their contribution to the space program and if we can convince the rest of the world that we're truly sorry we exist, then we'll be on the road to a full recovery. Come on, you know this!
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Whats amazing is the idea that Africans would WANT to clean their genitals.They are filthy "human beings" and live like animals.They still carry stuff across streams on their burry heads.Its only Europeans and Americans that live like humans ans even Europeans are suspect as they seem like soap and deaderant and razor blades[check out those chics arm pits] is some new invention they never heard of.
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I wash mine once in awhile....maybe I'm eligible for some of that gov-ment money.
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My balls get seriously foul at time, and we have clean water here.
I can't imagine washing them with some foul ass water.
I'll donate $5 myself... those balls deserve some compassion.
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If this wasn't such an insane waste of my money, I would be rolling on the floor laughing.
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Rumor has it that Straw volunteered to travel to Africa on his own dime to set up a genital washing station for men where he would wash any African males genitalia for tips.
I suppose that technically counts as a job. Although the only "stimulus" being felt here would have nothing to do with the American economy.
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Rumor has it that Straw volunteered to travel to Africa on his own dime to set up a genital washing station for men where he would wash any African males genitalia for tips.
I suppose that technically counts as a job. Although the only "stimulus" being felt here would have nothing to do with the American economy.
Hey Georgie Girl - you seem more cranky than usual today.
Did you get your period or are you just angry that your application for the genital washing job was denied because you're a registered sex offender?
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Hey Georgie Girl - you seem more cranky than usual today.
Did you get your period or are you just angry that your application for the genital washing job was denied because you're a registered sex offender?
^ Weak. And also, my posting was a lot more believable than yours.
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^ Weak. And also, my posting was a lot more believable than yours.
whatever makes you feel better about yourself
btw - what's your fascination with men's genitals
you seem to enjoy making up detailed fantasies and then projecting them onto other people
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:'(
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granted i drank some merlot tonight... but i've been laughing about the ball-washing stim package all evening.
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:'(
I hope you can find a way to feel better about yourself
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whatever makes you feel better about yourself
btw - what's your fascination with men's genitals
you seem to enjoy making up detailed fantasies and then projecting them onto other people
Hey moron, you supported the Stim Bill remember? How smart does that make you? Or are you too stupid to realize the idiocy of 99% of your beliefs?
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Hey moron, you supported the Stim Bill remember? How smart does that make you? Or are you too stupid to realize the idiocy of 99% of your beliefs?
I remember saying it was not big enough and had too much bullshit and not enough real stimulus
I don't suppose you remember with all that rage bouncing around in your head
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I remember saying it was not big enough and had too much bullshit and not enough real stimulus
I don't suppose you remember with all that rage bouncing around in your head
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Yeah, I guess if we only had a few more ball washing programs everything would be fine in the economy by now.
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Bump for Straw - is it your opinion that if only we had more penis washing stations that the stim Bill would have worked?
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Bump for Straw - is it your opinion that if only we had more penis washing stations that the stim Bill would have worked?
see prior comment
are you just looking for an excuse to think about balls?
I remember saying it was not big enough and had too much bullshit and not enough real stimulus
I don't suppose you remember with all that rage bouncing around in your head
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Balls are a distant memory for me.I havent seen mine since about 1988.The good thing about atrophied balls is your cock looks bigger.
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I dont remember you saying one thing before the stimulus was passed about the programs within it straw...
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I dont remember you saying one thing before the stimulus was passed about the programs within it straw...
not my fault you can't remember
go back and look if you'd like
I said it was not big enough, had too many bullshit program, too many worthless tax cuts, etc..
we all know that our government funds all kinds of programs that sound weird (and many are just friggin weird) and this is nothing new
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Yes, clearly we didn't spend enough on the stimulus. Another $800 billion on top of the first $800 billion would've fixed everything.
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not my fault you can't remember
go back and look if you'd like
I said it was not big enough, had too many bullshit program, too many worthless tax cuts, etc..
we all know that our government funds all kinds of programs that sound weird (and many are just friggin weird) and this is nothing new
LOL i dont remember b/c you didnt do it :D ;)
LMAO I agree the govt has some weird spending but when that spending is supposed to get the american economy going and its spent in this way then then something doesnt add up. That is unless you think that this program somehow stimulates the US economy?
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I remember saying it was not big enough and had too much bullshit and not enough real stimulus
I don't suppose you remember with all that rage bouncing around in your head
It wasn't big enough? How much more money did you want them to spend? Emphasis on the word "spend". Because it wouldn't have matter if they had added another trillion. This is an economic situation that can not be fixed by throwing money at it.
The economy as a whole would have been better off if no stimulus had been passed.
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It wasn't big enough? How much more money did you want them to spend? Emphasis on the word "spend". Because it wouldn't have matter if they had added another trillion. This is an economic situation that can not be fixed by throwing money at it.
The economy as a whole would have been better off if no stimulus had been passed.
According to Krugman, Straw Man, et al we are only a few more penis washing stations away from recovery.
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This is a travesty. We should have spent another $800 billion on roadside signs that talk about the first $800 billion we wasted. Then we would be set. Economy fixed, mission accomplished, unemployment at
20% 5%.
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lol
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Bob was on fire in this one.
"These guys probably have cooking utensils that double as pooper scoopers for their animals"
ha ha ha ha ha ah
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that guy is unwatchable
rants and raves like a moron
I forced myselt to watch the one about the mosque becasue you claimed it was so great and all I saw was an idiot screaming about Obama's birth certificate and how Obama is really a Muslim (never bothered to explain why that woudl be a problem)
Is this nitwit really a comedian?
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Come on straw - he is a riot.
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Come on straw - he is a riot.
I honestly wish that were the case
I'm a big fan of comedians and this guy not only sucks as a comedian but he's unbearable to watch
stupid and obnoxious are the only words that come to mind
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His vids get tens of thousands of hits, he has thousands of facebook followers, has a local tv show, and is onand off again on 770 NYC radio.,
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Just out of interest - how did they manage to spend $800k on teaching people how to wash their balls ?
Soap - $1
Water - Free
This went in someone's pocket didn't it ?
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Its another kickback and payoff to someone.
If I tried to come up with a worse way to spend money, I don't think I can fathom it.
This story epitomizes the Obama/Pelosi/Reid cabal to a tee.
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Another thing, where is the far left complaining about Obama pissing away our money like this?
Answer? Nowhere - because they are a freaking joke.
Yet, they get all worked up over O'Donnell.
Hypocrites and phonies.
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Bump.
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rants and raves like a moron
Maybe there should a government program to help you get a mirror.
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This is directly from the Recovery.gov website.
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http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/Pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIDSUR=12567&AwardType=Grants
Grants - AWARD SUMMARY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES
The project effect of male circumcision on HIV acquisition may be due to improved genital hygiene. We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa. Men in high prevalence settings could potentially benefit from improved genital hygiene if this intervention proved to be officious in reducing HIV acquisition risk. The first step in the intervention development process is to test the feasibility of post-coital male genital hygiene. The aim of the proposed feasibility study is to evaluate the feasibility and acceptability of a post-coital male genital hygiene procedure, which participants will be asked to practice immediately post-coitus or at least 12 hours after. The feasibility of a prevention RCT with an alternating intervention design on the effect of post-coital penile hygiene on HIV incidence among young males in South Africa will be sustained if the procedure is acceptable, is deemed convenient and practicable by the target population, and if adherence is high.
Clarification of Codes
Choose a quarter and click "Go."
Reporting Quarter April 1 - June 30, 2010 January 1 - March 31, 2010 October 1 - December 31, 2009 February 17 - September 30, 2009
AWARD OVERVIEW
AWARD OVERVIEW
Award Number 3U01MH066701-07S1 Funding Agency Department of Health and Human Services
Total Award Amount $823,200 Project Location - City Los Angeles
Award Date 09/30/2009 Project Location - State CA
Project Status Less Than 50% Completed Project Location - Zip 900951406
Jobs Reported 5.25 Congressional District 30
Project Location - Country US
Recipient Information (Grants)
Recipient Information (Grants)
Recipient Name UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES
Recipient DUNS Number 092530369
Recipient Address 11000 KINROSS AVE STE 102
Recipient City LOS ANGELES
Recipient State California
Recipient Zip 900950001
Recipient Congressional District 30
Recipient Country USA
Required to Report Top 5 Highly Compensated Officials No
Projects and Jobs Information
Projects and Jobs Information
Project Title COMMUNITY-BASED HIV VCT: SOUTH AFRICA
Project Status Less Than 50% Completed
Final Project Report Submitted No
Project Activities Description Colleges, Universities, and Professional Schools
Quarterly Activities/Project Description The spread of HIV is dramatic in Southern and East Africa where over 15% of adults are infected with HIV. It is essential to conceive and test new, innovative, and affordable prevention methods that can reduce the sexual transmission of HIV and which are complementary to the current preventive strategies such as consistent condom use, reduction of the number of sexual partners, and male circumcision. The outcomes of interest are: 1)Proportion of volunteers able to be trained to perform the penile cleansing procedure. 2)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to early post-coital penile cleansing. 3)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to delayed post-coital penile cleansing. 4)Proportion of participants favorable to the practice of the post-coital penile cleansing procedure. 5)Proportion of participants reporting partner's acceptance of the practice. 6) Proportion of participants adherent to the post-coital penile cleansing during study follow-up as assessed by penile swabs analysis. No results to report as field activities have commenced but are not complete. As of June 2010, 100 participants have been recruited of which 62 have received one follow up home visit and 33 have received two home visits. IRB approvals have been obtained, protocols have been written, and staff have been trained.
Jobs Created 5.25
Description of Jobs Created UCLA is a world-class educational institution in the midst of an unprecedented financial crisis that threatens our mission to provide education, research and public service benefiting millions of people. ARRA funding to the University has enabled the creation and retention of jobs to support vital scientific research and training activities that would otherwise be severely constrained or eliminated through budget cuts. The type(s) of jobs created and retained by this ARRA-fund award includes: Faculty and Investigator positions.; Scientific/Technical Professionals and Staff positions, such as Researchers, Post-Docs, Graduate Student Researchers, Project Managers and Statisticians.; Non-Scientific Support Staff positions, such as Analysts, Assistants, and Clerks, if budgeted and approved.
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The outcomes of interest are: 1)Proportion of volunteers able to be trained to perform the penile cleansing procedure. 2)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to early post-coital penile cleansing. 3)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to delayed post-coital penile cleansing. 4)Proportion of participants favorable to the practice of the post-coital penile cleansing procedure. 5)Proportion of participants reporting partner's acceptance of the practice. 6) Proportion of participants adherent to the post-coital penile cleansing during study follow-up as assessed by penile swabs analysis. No results to report as field activities have commenced but are not complete. As of June 2010, 100 participants have been recruited of which 62 have received one follow up home visit and 33 have received two home visits. IRB approvals have been obtained, protocols have been written, and staff have been trained.
Jobs Created 5.25
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Remember Drinking w Bobs' clip.
This whole story epitomizes the entire Obama admn.
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The outcomes of interest are: 1)Proportion of volunteers able to be trained to perform the penile cleansing procedure. 2)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to early post-coital penile cleansing. 3)Proportion of participants reporting adherence to delayed post-coital penile cleansing. 4)Proportion of participants favorable to the practice of the post-coital penile cleansing procedure. 5)Proportion of participants reporting partner's acceptance of the practice. 6) Proportion of participants adherent to the post-coital penile cleansing during study follow-up as assessed by penile swabs analysis. No results to report as field activities have commenced but are not complete. As of June 2010, 100 participants have been recruited of which 62 have received one follow up home visit and 33 have received two home visits. IRB approvals have been obtained, protocols have been written, and staff have been trained.
Jobs Created 5.25
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Remember Drinking w Bobs' clip.
This whole story epitomizes the entire Obama admn.
AHAHAHAHAHA!! Get the heck out of here. This is insane.
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This is recovery.gov. its pasted from right off the fucking site!
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Guys, it's OK. If we spent another $800 billion like Straw Man suggested then this would be an afterthought and unemployment would be at 5%.
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Guys, it's OK. If we spent another $800 billion like Straw Man suggested then this would be an afterthought and unemployment would be at 5%.
At least everyones' balls would be clean. ;D
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At least everyones' balls would be clean. ;D
;D
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I cranked one out last night to tube8 (no
odonnell abstinence), and I woke up with some seriously crusty sac this morning. Lotion and whatnot.
Anyway, should I use soap and water to clean my genitals or is there a better method? We sure could use such an educational program stateside.
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Guys, it's OK. If we spent another $800 billion like Straw Man suggested then this would be an afterthought and unemployment would be at 5%.
who said unemployment would be @ 5%
here is what I said (on this thread no less)
I remember saying it was not big enough and had too much bullshit and not enough real stimulus
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who said unemployment would be @ 5%
here is what I said (on this thread no less)
Does this qualify?
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BUMP for andre did you get your balls washed by this $ $ $ $ ?
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I didn't fully read this until now. I feel this has been blown way out of context.
A quick search provides evidence as to why this may be important. This from 2007 http://www.helium.com/items/562253-can-immediate-genital-wash-increase-hivaids-risk (http://www.helium.com/items/562253-can-immediate-genital-wash-increase-hivaids-risk)
In circumcised males washing directly after sex increases the risk of HIV transmission. They also found a similar correlation in uncircumcised men. Because of a slip-up, the researchers did not ask details of how the cleansing was done or directly about using soap, The study findings are counterintuitive, said Dr. Merle A. Sande, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Washington in Seattle, and "show why you have to do the studies, because until you do them, you just don't know."
And this from the grant - We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa. Men in high prevalence settings could potentially benefit from improved genital hygiene if this intervention proved to be efficacious in reducing HIV acquisition risk.
On the face of it, it seems insane. Ball washing program? Come on. But when you dig a little deeper and understand the context of this study and others like it. It's not so ludicrous at all. And i think would provide another piece to the puzzle in the HIV AIDS epidemic.
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It may not be popular but once again if you actually investigate and get some context perhaps you can also get some understanding.
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It may not be popular but once again if you actually investigate and get some context perhaps you can also get some understanding.
My things on AIDS is simple - zip up your damn pants, dont have reckless sex with everything under the sun wihout protection, and if you fail to adhere to the above an contract AIDS - fuck you - your problem, not mine. You were warned.
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My things on AIDS is simple - zip up your damn pants, dont have reckless sex with everything under the sun wihout protection, and if you fail to adhere to the above an contract AIDS - fuck you - your problem, not mine. You were warned.
In some cases this is true. But in Africa especially you have governments who deny condoms, medication and rampant illiteracy which helps false ideas propagate. Like if you have sex with a virgin HIV will go away etc.
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In some cases this is true. But in Africa especially you have governments who deny condoms, medication and rampant illiteracy which helps false ideas propagate. Like if you have sex with a virgin HIV will go away etc.
I know that - but we dont have the money to educate every citizen across the globe of even the most basic things.
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I didn't fully read this until now. I feel this has been blown way out of context.
A quick search provides evidence as to why this may be important. This from 2007 http://www.helium.com/items/562253-can-immediate-genital-wash-increase-hivaids-risk (http://www.helium.com/items/562253-can-immediate-genital-wash-increase-hivaids-risk)
In circumcised males washing directly after sex increases the risk of HIV transmission. They also found a similar correlation in uncircumcised men. Because of a slip-up, the researchers did not ask details of how the cleansing was done or directly about using soap, The study findings are counterintuitive, said Dr. Merle A. Sande, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Washington in Seattle, and "show why you have to do the studies, because until you do them, you just don't know."
And this from the grant - We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa. Men in high prevalence settings could potentially benefit from improved genital hygiene if this intervention proved to be efficacious in reducing HIV acquisition risk.
On the face of it, it seems insane. Ball washing program? Come on. But when you dig a little deeper and understand the context of this study and others like it. It's not so ludicrous at all. And i think would provide another piece to the puzzle in the HIV AIDS epidemic.
This may not be blatant government waste as you have pointed out, but why isn't South Africa paying the bill instead of us?
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This may not be blatant government waste as you have pointed out, but why isn't South Africa paying the bill instead of us?
because that government is a piece of sh*t. Their leader has a health minister who denies condoms stop the spread of HIV and AIDS. In some ways perhaps we shouldn't fund it on that basis alone. But then who else will help these people?
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because that government is a piece of sh*t. Their leader has a health minister who denies condoms stop the spread of HIV and AIDS. In some ways perhaps we shouldn't fund it on that basis alone. But then who else will help these people?
And who else will help with other problems in the USA?
This is why i don't like foreign aid. Especially with stuff like this. We need to take care of our own problems first.
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because that government is a piece of sh*t. Their leader has a health minister who denies condoms stop the spread of HIV and AIDS. In some ways perhaps we shouldn't fund it on that basis alone. But then who else will help these people?
Good point. Why don't you join Strawman and volunteer to participate in the African genital washing program? I'm sure he can get you a discount on a one way flight to Capetown. After all, who else will help these people?
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american nutsacks need soap, too.
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Good point. Why don't you join Strawman and volunteer to participate in the African genital washing program? I'm sure he can get you a discount on a one way flight to Capetown. After all, who else will help these people?
Fu*k off loser.
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Fu*k off loser.
Hostile post reported.
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Kc - have your balls been washed by this program? You sound very defensive over this.
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Good point. Why don't you join Strawman and volunteer to participate in the African genital washing program? I'm sure he can get you a discount on a one way flight to Capetown. After all, who else will help these people?
LoL
you must be cofusing me with yourself
You and 333 are the only ones who ever talk about this thing
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Fu*k off loser.
Translation: I got owned.
You're an ultra-liberal. I thought you cared about the well-being of everyone on this planet. You're all equal. You should prove your support for this by flying over there and personally scrubbing down a few thousand African penises.
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That's not how it works bf.
You are to pay for it and wash the nuts of the africans and kc and straw are supposed to applaud each other how caring and generous and compassionate they are.
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Another thing bf, in lib loon land, not only are you supposed to pay to wash and clean africans' nuts, but you are supposed to enjoy it. Then, after you get sick of paying for it since it doesn't do a damn thing, you get to be told how greedy, uncaring, and selfish you are by the likes of kc, andre and straw.
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Another thing bf, in lib loon land, not only are you supposed to pay to wash and clean africans' nuts, but you are supposed to enjoy it. Then, after you get sick of paying for it since it doesn't do a damn thing, you get to be told how greedy, uncaring, and selfish you are by the likes of kc, andre and straw.
LMAOOOOO well, at least we know that Straw and KC will throughly enjoy washing Andre's balls.
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Good point. Why don't you join Strawman and volunteer to participate in the African genital washing program? I'm sure he can get you a discount on a one way flight to Capetown. After all, who else will help these people?
Translation: I got owned.
You're an ultra-liberal. I thought you cared about the well-being of everyone on this planet. You're all equal. You should prove your support for this by flying over there and personally scrubbing down a few thousand African penises.
That's not how it works bf.
You are to pay for it and wash the nuts of the africans and kc and straw are supposed to applaud each other how caring and generous and compassionate they are.
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Like KC and Straw Man have the fortitude to fight off SAMSON for a shot at washing all those African balls. She would destroy them.
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LMAOOOOO well, at least we know that Straw and KC will throughly enjoy washing Andre's balls.
LoL
who are you trying to kid here Georgie
Is it just African mens genitals that you can't stop thinking about or does race not matter in this case?
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Kc - have your balls been washed by this program? You sound very defensive over this.
Haha nope. I'm not living in South Africa.
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Another thing bf, in lib loon land, not only are you supposed to pay to wash and clean africans' nuts, but you are supposed to enjoy it. Then, after you get sick of paying for it since it doesn't do a damn thing, you get to be told how greedy, uncaring, and selfish you are by the likes of kc, andre and straw.
Oh please. You've jumped to a conclusion without looking at the context in which the proposal is presented. You may not agree with it and that's fine. Honestly i can't say whether or not it's worth the money because i don't study in the field of HIV AIDS. A lot of what scientists, epidemiologists etc do seems weird or against the norm but if it helps fight HIV/AIDS i'm not against it. If it's a waste and deemed as such by the scientific community then i'm 100% with you in the condemnation of this.
My posts in this thread were to give this issue context not just the one sided slant that you have presented.
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Of course now KC you been labeled a ball washer because you didn't fall rank and file in condemning from the get go.
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Look at his name for gods sake.
Oh and maybe when we are not 14 trillion in debt we can discuss paying for washing africans' nuts.
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I agree with the study. I just don't agree with us paying or it,
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Of course now KC you been labeled a ball washer because you didn't fall rank and file in condemning from the get go.
Why is it our fucking job to teach African's how to wash their dicks? We pour over $6 billion into the UN every year (footing nearly 1/4 of its yearly bill ourselves). Is the rest of the planet ever going to step up and actually contribute to the well-being of each other or are people like you and KC OK with cherry-picking events where it's cool for America to play world police.
What don't you people understand about this country being $14 trillion in debt?