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Palin to make high-profile visit to Iowa
By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Will Sarah Palin use her Tea Party power to launch a run for president in 2012? Nobody knows, but her trip to Iowa on Friday may provide some clues.
Palin speaks at the Iowa Republican Party's Ronald Reagan Dinner in Des Moines, her influence among Tea Party activists strong after conservative candidates she backed won in Delaware and New Hampshire Senate primary races on Tuesday.
The former Alaska governor, who was Republican Senator John McCain's vice presidential running mate in the 2008 campaign, remains coy about whether she will join what could be a long list of challengers to Democratic President Barack Obama.
But her visit to Iowa for a speech at a high-profile party fund-raising event for November 2 congressional elections will doubtless feed speculation the self-styled "hockey mom" might seek the White House in 2012.
"I think what she's doing there is what she's doing in a lot of places -- she's tickling the political community. I think for any politician to show up in Iowa is to fuel speculation," said David Yepsen, a longtime Iowa watcher who is director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University.
Iowa and New Hampshire cast the first votes in presidential nominating campaigns and potential candidates routinely stop in each state in hopes of propelling themselves into the national spotlight.
Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, pondering a run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, has already blazed a trail across Iowa and is planning a sixth trip there in October.
While Pawlenty has largely flown under the radar, Palin can go nowhere quietly, usually drawing big crowds of fellow conservatives.
A polarizing figure loathed by liberals, Palin has helped roil Republican politics this year by backing anti-establishment candidates in primary elections, many of whom won on a platform of cutting government spending and taxes, causes supported by Tea Party activists.
Republicans are expected to turn voter worries about the economy and Obama's leadership into big gains in congressional elections in November that could give them control of the House and perhaps even the Senate.
"During the primary season, she has dramatically strengthened the view that she could win the party's presidential nomination, because her base is the Tea Party base and they keep winning key primaries," University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato said of Palin.
If Palin runs, said Sabato, "it would be the best news Democrats could possibly have."
46 PERCENT UNFAVORABILITY RATING
While popular among conservatives, Palin still has a long way to go with other Americans. A CBS News poll on Thursday said 46 percent of American voters viewed Palin unfavorably, compared with 21 percent who have a favorable opinion of her and 33 percent who are undecided.
Palin has been calling for Republican unity after Tea Party-backed Christine O'Donnell defeated establishment candidate Mike Castle in Delaware's Republican Senate primary.
Many Republicans quickly predicted O'Donnell would likely lose to her Democratic opponent in November, thwarting any likelihood of a Republican takeover of the Senate.
"My message to those who say that the GOP nominee is not electable, or that they're not even going to try, well I say, 'Buck up!'" Palin told Fox News.
Palin, who promotes a traditional Republican low-tax, pro-business economic policy and aggressive foreign policy, broadcasts her political views as a frequent contributor on Fox News and through Facebook and Twitter postings.
The Republican lineup for 2012 will start forming late this year and in early 2011, and as many as a dozen aspirants are possible, from Pawlenty to former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Saul Anuzis, a Republican Party member from Michigan, said Palin was clearly keeping her options open by visiting Iowa.
He has his doubts whether she would actually run, considering her lucrative career as a conservative voice, making speeches and writing a second book.
"I'm just guessing," said Anuzis. "I think it's more likely she doesn't than she does. but I think it's a possibility."
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Benny: lets make a deal. if she wins in 2012 - you leave the country and i pay for the ticket.
Deal?
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you repubs would support vandersloot if he ran.
you wouldn't say "noooo youre a bag of shit - stay outta the race!"
you'd say "it's cool brah, anyone but obama".
Unfortunately, there is that middle 20% of voters who will realize they're looking at an overconfident religious zealout like Palin - or a crappy candidate like Obama - and they'll just stay home.
You live/breathe right-wing politics, 33. Thta middle 20% does not. Palin is a Punchline to them - you know this right? They don't like obama, but at least they do believe he's smart enough to do the job. 60% of voters (edison/moffit/FOX polling) in 2008 thought she was too stupid - and she hasn't helped her cause since.
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you repubs would support vandersloot if he ran.
you wouldn't say "noooo youre a bag of shit - stay outta the race!"
you'd say "it's cool brah, anyone but obama".
Unfortunately, there is that middle 20% of voters who will realize they're looking at an overconfident religious zealout like Palin - or a crappy candidate like Obama - and they'll just stay home.
You live/breathe right-wing politics, 33. Thta middle 20% does not. Palin is a Punchline to them - you know this right? They don't like obama, but at least they do believe he's smart enough to do the job. 60% of voters (edison/moffit/FOX polling) in 2008 thought she was too stupid - and she hasn't helped her cause since.
Most Independents will never ever vote for Obama again, and will vote for whoever runs against him. You can take that to the Bank
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I will vote for anyone over obama in 2012, Vandersloot included.
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you repubs would support vandersloot if he ran.
you wouldn't say "noooo youre a bag of shit - stay outta the race!"
you'd say "it's cool brah, anyone but obama".
Unfortunately, there is that middle 20% of voters who will realize they're looking at an overconfident religious zealout like Palin - or a crappy candidate like Obama - and they'll just stay home.
You live/breathe right-wing politics, 33. Thta middle 20% does not. Palin is a Punchline to them - you know this right? They don't like obama, but at least they do believe he's smart enough to do the job. 60% of voters (edison/moffit/FOX polling) in 2008 thought she was too stupid - and she hasn't helped her cause since.
He is smart enough to do the job?What job?Completely destroying the private sector and US economy or making us a laughingstock worldwide because of his bowing?Where have you been?Last I checked his approval was 38% or so.The voters certainly know one thing and its that HE IS INCAPEABLE OF DOING ANY JOB!!!!!
She is a dummy,but he is a man who hates America and the country knows it.You can put smart people around her,but with him your left with a racist anti American,anti-Buisiness,anti-capitolist piece of trash.
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Obama will never win and election again, as he has permanently lost the majority of the Independents.
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you repubs would support vandersloot if he ran.
you wouldn't say "noooo youre a bag of shit - stay outta the race!"
At this moment, compared to the 150 pound bag of dog crap sitting in the White House, Van der Sloot looks like a viable candidate.
That is CHANGE I am willing to vote for.
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The truth is Liberals (and Rhinos) have no idea how pissed off people really are, but they will find out come November, and then again in 2012
The majority of Politicians that voted for Obamacare are going to be voted out, just look at Russ Fiendgold's current race.
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The truth is Liberals (and Rhinos) have no idea how pissed off people are, but they will find out come November, and then again in 2012
240 watches MSNBC and buys into their crappola.
By 2012 - Palin will easily win the office for POTUS if its against Commie-in-Chief.
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240 watches MSNBC and buys into their crappola.
By 2012 - Palin will easily win the office for POTUS if its against Commie-in-Chief.
If Palin runs, she is our next President. It does not matter if it is against Obama or Hillary, as both are viewed as the Washington establishment, and people are pissed not only at Obama, but the Washington establishment. You can take that to the Bank. Palin is the Tea party Favorite, and this thing is only now taking off.
In my line of work I talk to people all day long, and I never bring up Politics, as I don't want to piss off a client after it turns out he or she is a liberal, but most bring the subject up with me, and I have never talked to so many pissed off people, about what Obama, Nancy, and Reid have done, and are trying to do.
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What 240 and the fool Benny dont realize is that by 2012 we will have a record for Obama and not stupid slogans and bs that got him into office in 2008.
By then:
1. ObamaCare
2. Terrorist Trials in NYC
3. Failed Stim Bill
4. Attempt at massive energy tax.
5. Attempt at amnesty for illegals.
6. Support of the Mosque at GZ
7. Communist Czars
8. Rise in poverty
9. "Are you better off than 4 years ago?"
10. stock market still in the toilet.
11. World apology tour.
12. The daily parties and endless waste of money.
13. Ok'ing the release fo the lockerbie bomber.
14. Supreme Court
15. Taxes.
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What 240 and the fool Benny dont realize is that by 2012 we will have a record for Obama and not stupid slogans and bs that got him into office in 2008.
By then:
1. ObamaCare
2. Terrorist Trials in NYC
3. Failed Stim Bill
4. Attempt at massive energy tax.
5. Attempt at amnesty for illegals.
6. Support of the Mosque at GZ
7. Communist Czars
8. Rise in poverty
9. "Are you better off than 4 years ago?"
10. stock market still in the toilet.
11. World apology tour.
12. The daily parties and endless waste of money.
13. Ok'ing the release fo the lockerbie bomber.
14. Supreme Court
15. Taxes.
Just look at the amount of money Christine O'Donnell raised in 24 hours, over 1 million dollars.
The tsunami is coming in November.
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The establishment GOP needs to exit stage right and let the new blood take over. They are almost as bad at the vermin on the left and Palin knows this.
The far left commies like benny weould like nothing more than a hapless GOP happy to get 49% every election and go home happy they got within 1 point of voctory.
At least Palin fights to win, not like the panzies in the GOP in DC.
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If Palin had no chance of winning, why are all the liberals constantly bashing her?
As I said earlier, if she runs, she is our next President.
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palin supported tarp. supports amnesty. supported capping emissions. Supported bush spening 3 trillion on bailouts. She said man caused global warming, dude!!
I think she's a RINO in tea party clothing. She is smart enough to know the party voters are trending that way, and she's jumping on the bandwagon.
She wasn't scaeaming these tea positions until the tea party blew up and she decided to adopt their positions. These aren't her core beliefs - and if they are, then she was LYING to america in 2008.
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If Palin had no chance of winning, why are all the liberals constantly bashing her?
As I said earlier, if she runs, she is our next President.
Because they fear her and know she can draw voters and can get people to the polls and has fight in her. i know she has many flaws, but those flaws are not of charachter and trust.
Unlike the communist traitor in the WH, she loves the nation and is not seeking a "radical transformation" and will leave me alone.
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If Palin had no chance of winning, why are all the liberals constantly bashing her?
As I said earlier, if she runs, she is our next President.
I want a GOOD republican to run and defeat obama.
palin runs, and she doesn't stand as good a chance of beating him - many americans think she isn't qualified. Whether that is true/false doesn't matter - the perception is out there and it's not going to change. She gets GOP far-right base excited, but moderates/independents? What are her numbers with them?
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palin supported tarp. supports amnesty. supported capping emissions. Supported bush spening 3 trillion on bailouts. She said man caused global warming, dude!!
I think she's a RINO in tea party clothing. She is smart enough to know the party voters are trending that way, and she's jumping on the bandwagon.
She wasn't scaeaming these tea positions until the tea party blew up and she decided to adopt their positions. These aren't her core beliefs - and if they are, then she was LYING to america in 2008.
she was picked by McCain - what was she goping to do? "Yeah mcCain picked me but i disagree with his whole platform"????
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she loves the nation and is not seeking a "radical transformation" and will leave me alone.
She's gonna let 20 million illegals gain citizenship, rememebr ;)
Thune won't do that. Stop supporting 'baby girl' and put your mouth behind a TRUE CONSERVATIVE. She became one in 2009 when politically convenient. She was a RINo posing witha rilfe in 2008, let's be honest.
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she was picked by McCain - what was she goping to do? "Yeah mcCain picked me but i disagree with his whole platform"????
YEs, MFer. :) YES!
Biden listed the issues he disagreed with Obama on.
Palin just said "yeah!" and went along. A real maverick. And those answers WERE HER OWN! Dude, she sid without a doubt, man caused global warming. that sure as shit wasn't a mccain position. And she said she's fine with capping emissions - MCCAIN WAS NOT. And she said - THIS YEAR - she'll let the illegals stay.
I get it, you think she's hot. You like her spunk. But she's a RINO who changed positions this year. I will personally campaign for Thune. I will personally drive up to NYC and buy you beers all night, and take you to the polling station at 6:01 AM and make you vote for Thune over "baby girl".
Jeez.
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She's gonna let 20 million illegals gain citizenship, rememebr ;)
Thune won't do that. Stop supporting 'baby girl' and put your mouth behind a TRUE CONSERVATIVE. She became one in 2009 when politically convenient. She was a RINo posing witha rilfe in 2008, let's be honest.
look, I told you I am a Thune 2012 guy, but I still don't see him getting out there and getting his name going.
If its Sarah is the pick, I have no problem campaigning for her over the present disaster at 1600 PA Ave.
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palin supported tarp. supports amnesty. supported capping emissions. Supported bush spening 3 trillion on bailouts. She said man caused global warming, dude!!
I think she's a RINO in tea party clothing. She is smart enough to know the party voters are trending that way, and she's jumping on the bandwagon.
She wasn't scaeaming these tea positions until the tea party blew up and she decided to adopt their positions. These aren't her core beliefs - and if they are, then she was LYING to america in 2008.
Obama is for everyone of those things and ran as a moderate and a unifier.He is a KNOWN liar!!The country has never been more devided EVER!Obama was screaming that the Bush tax cuts were ONLY for the wealthy now he wants to extend those to the middle class.How is that possible,I thought there were no tax cuts for the middle class only the rich.
You voted for Bob Barr who is for amnesty and now your bothered by it?Wow!!
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palin supported tarp. supports amnesty. supported capping emissions. Supported bush spening 3 trillion on bailouts. She said man caused global warming, dude!!
I think she's a RINO in tea party clothing. She is smart enough to know the party voters are trending that way, and she's jumping on the bandwagon.
She wasn't scaeaming these tea positions until the tea party blew up and she decided to adopt their positions. These aren't her core beliefs - and if they are, then she was LYING to america in 2008.
Keep spinning 240.....
"A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made. " Sarah Palin
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
"No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides". - Sarah Plain
'I agree with Sarah Palin on most all issues" - 240
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240 - answer me dead serious.
If its Palin v. Obama and UE is still 10%, health care costs skyrocketing, another terrorist attack occurs, Obama takes a shit on the vets, tries amnesty again,
Who do you go for?
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240 - answer me dead serious.
If its Palin v. Obama and UE is still 10%, health care costs skyrocketing, another terrorist attack occurs, Obama takes a shit on the vets, tries amnesty again,
Who do you go for?
UE could be at 40% and 240 would not vote for her, as he has his head too far up Keith Olbermann's ass.
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Palin's not going to run.
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UE could be at 40% and 240 would not vote for her, as he has his head too far up Keith Olbermann's ass.
For it, it is no doubt, even if its richard ramirez or BTK Killer, they have my vote over Obama.
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Palin's not going to run.
She is running, She is in Iowa as we speak
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68G0M920100917
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I think she is going to run, and unless Thune hops in, I am going for her over Romney, Huck, etc.
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Despite the valid reasons, I don't believe she's electable. I don't think she'll get the nomination.
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Despite the valid reasons, I don't believe she's electable. I don't think she'll get the nomination.
Wait and see.
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Despite the valid reasons, I don't believe she's electable. I don't think she'll get the nomination.
I would normally agree, but at this point who even remotely can generate the star power she does? Hucklebee? Myth?
I alread said I want Thune, but I think everyone knows deep down that everyone wants to see Palin v Obama head to head since she has guts, balls, and the fire in the belly to take on this revolting grifter like no one else.
For me, its all about who wants, has desire to, and will take out the trash in 2012.
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you repubs would support vandersloot if he ran.
you wouldn't say "noooo youre a bag of shit - stay outta the race!"
you'd say "it's cool brah, anyone but obama".
Unfortunately, there is that middle 20% of voters who will realize they're looking at an overconfident religious zealout like Palin - or a crappy candidate like Obama - and they'll just stay home.
You live/breathe right-wing politics, 33. Thta middle 20% does not. Palin is a Punchline to them - you know this right? They don't like obama, but at least they do believe he's smart enough to do the job. 60% of voters (edison/moffit/FOX polling) in 2008 thought she was too stupid - and she hasn't helped her cause since.
no educated republican would vote palin under any circumstance.
if nominated i'd sit out the election.
-NT
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Obama vs. palin?
i'd take a crap in the booth and write "primary voters are idiots" in feces on the wall.
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no educated republican would vote palin under any circumstance.
if nominated i'd sit out the election.
-NT
so who do you want to see run against obama that you would vote for?
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Obama vs. palin?
i'd take a crap in the booth and write "primary voters are idiots" in feces on the wall.
240 - if its Huck v. Obama?
Romney v. Obama?
Newt v. Obama?
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Buck. Romney. Newt.
I believe that while their policies aren't all that great some of the time - they possess the intellect, maturity and composure to hold the job.
Palin? She's pure emotion dude. It's that simple. Flying off the handle, tweeting about this and that. Wonderful. Imagine that as president.
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so who do you want to see run against obama that you would vote for?
anyone but palin.
personally i like thune.
-NT
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Buck. Romney. Newt.
I believe that while their policies aren't all that great some of the time - they possess the intellect, maturity and composure to hold the job.
Palin? She's pure emotion dude. It's that simple. Flying off the handle, tweeting about this and that. Wonderful. Imagine that as president.
i can't possibly imagine anything worse than we have now with a POTUS supporting a mosque at GZ, terrorists in NYC to stand trial at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars, passing laws that impoverish the nation etc.
But that's me 240, you love Obama despite the absolute horror movie this has been for working people and businesses.
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anyone but palin.
personally i like thune.
-NT
Agreed, he is my first choice and the self described Nightmare fore the DNC, and even they say so.
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A training-wheels president who uses emotion as his/her primary decision making tool is a very dangerous thing.
We had it with obama. like saveg says, let's not do it again with palin.
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A training-wheels president who uses emotion as his/her primary decision making tool is a very dangerous thing.
We had it with obama. like saveg says, let's not do it again with palin.
I think Thune is the best choice personally.
He is smart, mature, good looking, can unite all factions on the right, is not prone to gaffes, and makes a very good presentation.
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The good point - which you and I will likely agree on, 33..
In 2007, the 'rock stars' of the GOP were Rudy and Fred Thompson. GOP voters were wise enough to see Rudy and mitt talk shit to each other like a couple of Maury Povich guests... and they chose the calm, de facto mature candidate on the stage - mccain.
So while palin gets all the praise, it's likely her emotion will get the best of her in the debates with Romney, huck and friends. As they all scream "lib!' at each other and remind one another of past lib sins... Thune stands pretty as the only guy up there with an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE VOTING RECORD!
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I think Thune is the best choice personally.
He is smart, mature, good looking, can unite all factions on the right, is not prone to gaffes, and makes a very good presentation.
I like Thune too, but the fact is he is not running, so it doesn't matter one bit what any of us think about him.
Once again, Sarah Palin is our next President.
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The good point - which you and I will likely agree on, 33..
In 2007, the 'rock stars' of the GOP were Rudy and Fred Thompson. GOP voters were wise enough to see Rudy and mitt talk shit to each other like a couple of Maury Povich guests... and they chose the calm, de facto mature candidate on the stage - mccain.
So while palin gets all the praise, it's likely her emotion will get the best of her in the debates with Romney, huck and friends. As they all scream "lib!' at each other and remind one another of past lib sins... Thune stands pretty as the only guy up there with an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE VOTING RECORD!
240 - I admit i am to the far far far right, so take what i say for what its worth.
I think when people see Thune vs obama they will see a mature guy vs a trainb wreck, a stable conservative middle america guy vs a kenyan marxist, a guy who does not want to transform america vs a guy with delusions of granduer, a guy who hunts, fishs, etc vs a guy with a pocket protector, a guy who has traditional values vs a guy who has international valuers, a guy who seems well grounded vs a guy who hung out with domestic terrorists, etc etc.
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I just see palin as 10% better than obama. Only she's also erratic and emotional - obama is checked by whatever powers... Palin? Dude, I think her ego is so big that she'll be responding from emotion - not from her brain.
Look at her on tv - EVERYTHING she says is from HEART - not her brain. Do you think she'll just take office and suddenly turn off that erratic auto-response mode, and suddenly be some careful, analytical decision maker? NO! She's going to be just as erratic, just as over-confident.
I'm just saying there are plenty of anti-obama candidates with stronger mental ability, and a hell of a lot less emotion. I like an emotional actor, but I don't want an emotional barber, know what I mean? For jobs that are CRITICAL, I'd like a person who isn't tweeting double standard on the R-wrd or mocking made-up words on twitter constantly. Her fast fast reactions to things worry me.
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I like Thune too, but the fact is he is not running, so it doesn't matter one bit what any of us think about him.
Once again, Sarah Palin is our next President.
Bush, Obama & Palin?
if so, America is focked.
-NT
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I just see palin as 10% better than obama. Only she's also erratic and emotional - obama is checked by whatever powers... Palin? Dude, I think her ego is so big that she'll be responding from emotion - not from her brain.
Look at her on tv - EVERYTHING she says is from HEART - not her brain. Do you think she'll just take office and suddenly turn off that erratic auto-response mode, and suddenly be some careful, analytical decision maker? NO! She's going to be just as erratic, just as over-confident.
I'm just saying there are plenty of anti-obama candidates with stronger mental ability, and a hell of a lot less emotion. I like an emotional actor, but I don't want an emotional barber, know what I mean? For jobs that are CRITICAL, I'd like a person who isn't tweeting double standard on the R-wrd or mocking made-up words on twitter constantly. Her fast fast reactions to things worry me.
That's fine, but i try to look at issues. Would she push obamaCare? Yes or no?
Would she support the mosque? Yes or no?
would she support terrorists trials in NYC? Yes or no?
would she propose $823,000 for African ball washing programs? Yes or no?
Etc etc.
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would she propose $823,000 for African ball washing programs? Yes or no?
Etc etc.
NT just pissed is trousers !!! lol
-NT
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The reality is that the economy will be the biggest issue in 2012. If it still sucks, Sarah, Thune, Madoff, Spongebob, lady Ga Ga, or whoever will destroy Obama.
If the economy has recovered and the GOP holds congress, UE down to 6.5%, Obama will win most likely unless he tries other crap, which i believe he will.
Emotionally, i would be fine with Sarah, mentally, I think i have to cast my lot with Thune if he runs.
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NT just pissed is trousers !!! lol
-NT
Its Friday, we have to have some laughs no?
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The good point - which you and I will likely agree on, 33..
In 2007, the 'rock stars' of the GOP were Rudy and Fred Thompson. GOP voters were wise enough to see Rudy and mitt talk shit to each other like a couple of Maury Povich guests... and they chose the calm, de facto mature candidate on the stage - mccain.
So while palin gets all the praise, it's likely her emotion will get the best of her in the debates with Romney, huck and friends. As they all scream "lib!' at each other and remind one another of past lib sins... Thune stands pretty as the only guy up there with an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE VOTING RECORD!.
240,
lets look at he facts:
you have knee padded for Obama for the last 17 months.
your TV has been welded to the MSNBC channel for the last 2 years (or longer)
you TIVO Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman on the nights your Band Plays.
you have non stop smeared Sarah Palin on here for the last 2 years, including saying lies about her children.
you even admitted on here a few weeks ago that you are now a liberal
So don't take it personal when I tell you that your opinion on who the Republican Nominee should be holds no weight, in fact I would bet money that if Thune did run, and won the Republican Primary, you would be on here the very next day, calling hm a religious nut job, and going to Media Matters and huffintgon everyday, looking for dirt to bring back to Getbig on Thune.
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Most Independents will never ever vote for Obama again, and will vote for whoever runs against him. You can take that to the Bank
Agree.
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Agree.
I live in NYC and am sort of not in tune with average voters. most of the people around me are race based voters who vote dem like they are taking a shit. It just plops out no matter what.
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I live in NYC and am sort of not in tune with average voters. most of the people around me are race based voters who vote dem like they are taking a shit. It just plops out no matter what.
lol. I'm surrounded by liberals. People in my state have tunnel vision in the polls. All they see is "D."
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lol :)
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Just as Carter resulted in Reagan, Obama will result in Palin.
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Just as Carter resulted in Reagan, Obama will result in Palin.
Could very well be, but I'm not convinced she will run.
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Could very well be, but I'm not convinced she will run.
Palin Opens Up About Possible 2012 Run, Says She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'
Fox News ^ | September 17, 2010
Sarah Palin may be edging closer to a 2012 presidential run, telling Fox News "I would give it a shot" if the American people think she's "the one."
The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee was in Des Moines, Iowa, Friday for the Reagan Dinner, a big GOP fundraiser in the heart of water-testing country for presidential candidates.
Palin has remained coy about her ambitions, but she elaborated a bit in an interview with Fox News, attaching several conditions to the possibility of a 2012 presidential run.
"If the American people were to be ready for someone who is willing to shake it up, and willing Medicare Supplement Insurance (http://www.nationalmedicaresupplements.com/) to get back to time-tested truths, and help lead our country towards a more prosperous and safe future and if they happen to think I was the one, if it were best for my family and for our country, of course I would give it a shot," she said.
"But I'm not saying that it's me. I know I can certainly make a difference without having a title. I'm having a good time doing exactly that right now."
Palin, a Fox News contributor and best-selling author since leaving the governor's mansion last year, has become one of the Tea Party movement's biggest allies. She's also thrown her clout around in the GOP primary season with a string of endorsements.
She said in February that she'd be "willing" to take on President Obama in two years, and White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday he suspects she's testing the water.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/17/palin-opens-possible-run-says-shed-shot/
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Palin Opens Up About Possible 2012 Run, Says She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'
Fox News ^ | September 17, 2010
Sarah Palin may be edging closer to a 2012 presidential run, telling Fox News "I would give it a shot" if the American people think she's "the one."
The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee was in Des Moines, Iowa, Friday for the Reagan Dinner, a big GOP fundraiser in the heart of water-testing country for presidential candidates.
Palin has remained coy about her ambitions, but she elaborated a bit in an interview with Fox News, attaching several conditions to the possibility of a 2012 presidential run.
"If the American people were to be ready for someone who is willing to shake it up, and willing to get back to time-tested truths, and help lead our country towards a more prosperous and safe future and if they happen to think I was the one, if it were best for my family and for our country, of course I would give it a shot," she said.
"But I'm not saying that it's me. I know I can certainly make a difference without having a title. I'm having a good time doing exactly that right now."
Palin, a Fox News contributor and best-selling author since leaving the governor's mansion last year, has become one of the Tea Party movement's biggest allies. She's also thrown her clout around in the GOP primary season with a string of endorsements.
She said in February that she'd be "willing" to take on President Obama in two years, and White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday he suspects she's testing the water.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/17/palin-opens-possible-run-says-shed-shot/
That's the most definitive thing I've heard her say.
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Benny: lets make a deal. if she wins in 2012 - you leave the country and i pay for the ticket.
Deal?
No thanks. For starters, I travel internationally frequently enough. I would feel guilty about you begging your mom to loan you money for my airfare. :-\
Secondly, if Palin were to win the presidency, America would get exactly what it deserves. I would want to stick around for the hilarious comedic moments that would ensue as she fumbles her way around such a high profile position on the world stage and mangles the english language at every turn. Her lack of intellectual heft for the job of president, not to mention the tremendous workload, would have poor Sarah breaking down and ready to quit after the first six months. Oh, the first press conference where she would have to speak extemporaneously on a large number of subjects without notes or a prepared script would be pure LOL comedy! ;D No sticking to The FIXED News Network when you're prez...you have to speak to everyone and answer the tough questions in a sensible and coherent manner. Palin would be an international embarrassment of epic proportions, more vilified and lampooned around the world than George Bush. Yeah man, it would be comedy gold. ;D
Supporting Sarah Palin for president is a "can't lose" proposition no matter what happens. So I fully support her, particularly on a Palin/Bachmann ticket, and sincerely hope she wins the GOP nomination. Like I stated, if the American people choose to vote out Obama, let them get EXACTLY what they most deserve. ;)
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If Palin had no chance of winning, why are all the liberals constantly bashing her?
As I said earlier, if she runs, she is our next President.
Who says she has no chance of winning? ??? I know we can count on her getting your vote in a 2012 general election, so that's a start right there.
Never underestimate the stupidity determination of the American people! ;)
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The ONLY way I'm not voting republican in 2012 is if Palin is the GOP candidate.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
The GOP has America in the palm of their hands. I don't remember a time where there's been such a sharp two year shift in independent voters from Obama mania to "back the fuck off, government" fiscal conservatism.
The ONLY way I can see the GOP losing the white house in 2012 is if they put that dumb-as-a-stump, fucking bible-thumping, education despising ignorant hillbilly on the ticket.
Put ANY fiscal conservative on the ticket and the repubs are redesigning the oval office. Put a neo-con, religious right moron on the ticket and they're proving once again that no-one can fuck up a "sure thing" like the republican party.
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The ONLY way I'm not voting republican in 2012 is if Palin is the GOP candidate.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
The GOP has America in the palm of their hands. I don't remember a time where there's been such a sharp two year shift in independent voters from Obama mania to "back the fuck off, government" fiscal conservatism.
The ONLY way I can see the GOP losing the white house in 2012 is if they put that dumb-as-a-stump, fucking bible-thumping, education despising ignorant hillbilly on the ticket.
Put ANY fiscal conservative on the ticket and the repubs are redesigning the oval office. Put a neo-con, religious right moron on the ticket and they're proving once again that no-one can fuck up a "sure thing" like the republican party.
Is there a viable Republican candidate that is not a fiscal conservative?
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I will vote for the BTK Killer over Obama in 2012
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Is there a viable Republican candidate that is not a fiscal conservative?
Seriously? The entire neo-con movement is based around social conservatism, i.e. the "religious right."
The republican party of the last 10-15 years (or more) has been anything BUT a fiscally responsible "small" government.
The 3 largest government growth years from 1789-2005 were 3 of the first 4 years of W. Bush's first term. That is not small government and fiscal conservatism.
Clinton ruined the republican party. The GOP latched on to the Lewinsky issue and wouldn't let go. The post '94 Clinton office was smaller government, "the end of welfare as we know it," low-deficit or surplus budget, and 0% effective unemployment.
That was the perfect storm for the moral-right nutbags to take over the GOP and take it from "Grand Old Party" to "God's Own Party."
I talk to people every day who think the GOP is the party of taxes and spending! The average person has no clue about politics and was too stoned in their high school government class to remember what each party is supposed to "stand for."
The "base" of the right is 2nd amendment, religion, etc. That's probably always going to be the case.
BUT, the INDEPENDENT voters who SHOULD be voting republican are fiscal conservatives. They're people who couldn't care less about religion or guns.
They're people who don't like the government being involved in every part of their life, don't like inflated taxes to fund over-financed government programs.......and many times can't decide who they dislike more; the tree hugging PETA loving far left, or the bible thumping bigoted far right.
The GOP has those independents in the palm of their hand right now. America is a right-of-center country, with most of those people leaning right primarily for financial reasons. If the GOP puts Sarah Palin on the ticket, every time she mentions that the schools of our "Christian nation" should be preaching abstinence over safe-sex practices, that the earth is 5,000 years old and our students should be taught that Jesus grew up with the dinosaurs, or any other social issue.......the GOP is going to lose votes.
*And that's not counting the votes lost immediately after she wins the ticket from people who think our president should be smarter than a 5th grader.
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While I'm at it,
Where the fuck did this "I like her...she's someone I could have a beer with!" thing start?
I don't want one of my drinking buddies to be president. I love my drinking buddies....we have a great time together, but I want to keep them my beer buddies, not my fucking president.
How about a president with an education background that includes some mathematics and statistics instead of the "because it looks good to voters" Law degree?
How about the ability to understand micro and macro-economics? Someone who had to learn how linear approximations are used to study non-linear functions (like the stock market)?
How about someone who has started their own business? Someone who has had to crunch numbers and work within a budget?
Someone who has had to decide whether or not to expand their business and hire more employees in an unfriendly economy?
Someone who understands why small business owners go home and tell their wife "We could hire another person to work in shipping if the fucking government would leave us alone?"
If Sarah fucking Palin runs against Barry Hussein Obama....instead of a former business owner with an understanding of money, the stock market, economy, statistics, etc., we get a battle between a community organizer who thinks that spending $2 million for every job SAVED (not created...) indicates that the stimulus bill was a success and a dipshit moron ready to lead the religious right into another failed candidacy run when the only thing the GOP has to do to guarantee a win is pick anyone BUT Sarah Palin.
I don't who will end up on top for the GOP in 2012.....but I see anyone but Palin as a sure-thing favorite over Obama.
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Me personally, I want to see a guy like Christie up there. He was on the am radio in NYC talking about how the dems want him to sign up to go along with a tunnell into NYC and that the cost to taxpayers ins in the billions with no way to pay for it.
He said straight up: "Unless I know exactly whatt he cost is, how it is getting paid for, and when, i'm not going for it, period"
A state worker called up screaming that he wants to cut their pensions. Christie said to this guy: "15 years from now, you will be thanking me for the fact that you even have a pension because if we dont cut it now, its going away for good"
And on and on and on.
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52% of Voters Say Their Views Are More Like Palin’s Than Obama’s
Rasmussen Reports ^ | Sept. 20, 2010
Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.
Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.
(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...
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Seriously? The entire neo-con movement is based around social conservatism, i.e. the "religious right."
The republican party of the last 10-15 years (or more) has been anything BUT a fiscally responsible "small" government.
The 3 largest government growth years from 1789-2005 were 3 of the first 4 years of W. Bush's first term. That is not small government and fiscal conservatism.
Clinton ruined the republican party. The GOP latched on to the Lewinsky issue and wouldn't let go. The post '94 Clinton office was smaller government, "the end of welfare as we know it," low-deficit or surplus budget, and 0% effective unemployment.
That was the perfect storm for the moral-right nutbags to take over the GOP and take it from "Grand Old Party" to "God's Own Party."
I talk to people every day who think the GOP is the party of taxes and spending! The average person has no clue about politics and was too stoned in their high school government class to remember what each party is supposed to "stand for."
The "base" of the right is 2nd amendment, religion, etc. That's probably always going to be the case.
BUT, the INDEPENDENT voters who SHOULD be voting republican are fiscal conservatives. They're people who couldn't care less about religion or guns.
They're people who don't like the government being involved in every part of their life, don't like inflated taxes to fund over-financed government programs.......and many times can't decide who they dislike more; the tree hugging PETA loving far left, or the bible thumping bigoted far right.
The GOP has those independents in the palm of their hand right now. America is a right-of-center country, with most of those people leaning right primarily for financial reasons. If the GOP puts Sarah Palin on the ticket, every time she mentions that the schools of our "Christian nation" should be preaching abstinence over safe-sex practices, that the earth is 5,000 years old and our students should be taught that Jesus grew up with the dinosaurs, or any other social issue.......the GOP is going to lose votes.
*And that's not counting the votes lost immediately after she wins the ticket from people who think our president should be smarter than a 5th grader.
I agree the Republican party has been just as irresponsible as the Democrat party. I'm asking about the current group of rumored contenders. They all talk like fiscal conservatives. I know that can change once they take office.
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Madam President? It could happen
Speculation that she will run for President in 2012 is reaching fever pitch. But what do those who watched Sarah Palin grow up make of her meteoric ascent – and ruthless ambition? By Shushannah Walshe
Tuesday, 21 September 2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/madam-president-it-could-happen-2084673.html
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The first thing you notice, upon pulling up to Chuck and Sally Heath's house in Wasilla, Alaska, is the Christmas tree of moose antlers piled up next to the driveway. Step inside the ranch-style home, and you get another unmistakable sign that you're not in the Democrats' America anymore: Chuck's prized collection of skinned and stuffed animals, the spoils of his many hunting trips – a cougar, a mountain goat, foxes, birds, and snake skins spilling over the banister. Outside, a picnic table offers dramatic views of the Chugach Mountain range. It was in this setting that the Heaths, putting aside their natural wariness of press from the Lower 48 states, agreed to meet a reporter, feed her fresh snap peas from their garden-and share their thoughts about their world-famous daughter, Sarah Palin.
Should she run for president in 2012? Sarah's mother, Sally, doesn't hesitate. "It would be a tough thing to do," she starts to say, until Chuck interrupts: "It's up to her, whatever she wants to do." Sally, in a green zip-up sweatshirt, continues. "I love what she's doing now: scouting around for who would be good candidates, who honestly could stand up and speak and not be afraid to tell it like it is."
They don't know her plans, the Heaths are quick to add, in their first national interview in over a year. But "it would be fun to find out some day", Sally says, with a contagious laugh.
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In other words, Sarah's parents seem to feel the way a lot of Alaskans feel about the state's best-known export, next to oil and salmon: torn over the wisdom of her trying to make the White House her home.
Some friends expressed caution about Palin's future. A former adviser in DC who remains friends with Palin said he doesn't want to see her run. "I think she's got a great life. She's got the world by the tail right now," this friend says. "I mean, she's earning a lot of money, which she never had before. She is speaking to adoring crowds wherever she goes. She's greatly appreciated by those she supports and she doesn't have to take all the grief that you have to take when you are running for or holding office."
Others who are less-favourably disposed point out that Palin's aborted tenure as governor left a lot of bad blood in Alaska; they worry that her baggage would be dragged back onstage in another national campaign, and hurt the state.
But fans and foes alike warn against the dangers of selling Palin short.
"Four years ago, right after she was elected, I was quoted as saying, 'The graveyards of Alaska are covered with the bones of people crossed by Sarah Palin.' While I said crossed, what I meant was underestimated," said Alaska Republican pollster David Dittman. "And that's still true. Consistently, whether it's the local city council in Wasilla, no matter where she's gone – say, on the cusp of achieving something – there've always been detractors that say it can't happen, it won't happen, this is why she won't be successful. That's why I will say, to this day, the political graveyards of Alaska – and other places – are filled with the bones of people who underestimated Sarah. And it's still happening."
Adele Morgan, one of Palin's oldest friends in Alaska, can attest to that. She recalls approaching Palin in 2005, when she first heard that her childhood pal and basketball buddy was running for governor. "I had heard that just from the grapevine so I went and asked her," Morgan recalls. "I thought that was quite the feat at the time. And I said, 'What are your plans?' I was just kidding around and I said, 'So do you want to be president?' And that was way back then and she said, 'Well maybe.' And I was like, 'Wow you got some goals there, girl!'"
The ambition doesn't always sit well with Alaskans, who have a saying: "We don't care how they do it on the Outside." But they clearly care when the Outside suddenly lands on their doorstep. Wasilla Mayor Verne Rupright refers to the town as "Hollywood North" because of the media focus and the parade of tourists from the Lower 48 that now visits, hoping to get a glimpse of Sarah's backyard.
She doesn't spend nearly as much time there as she used to amid her speaking engagements, book tours, and appearances for midterm candidates across the country. (Indeed, until her endorsement of insurgent candidate Joe Miller in the state's GOP Senate primary, who nosed out incumbent Lisa Murkowski, Palin's influence had not been felt much at all since she resigned the governorship in 2009.)
Friends in Wasilla say she doesn't drive the family's Escalade SUV anymore and instead has gone back to the VW Jetta she used when governor to avoid being spotted.
"Every time I drive it, people know who it is and I can just drive the Jetta and nobody pays any attention," Palin told friend and Wasilla neighbor Bev Perdew.
When she is in the state, she spends most of her time in her Wasilla home on Lake Lucille. She's ended the need to pop out to do TV, having recently added a studio as an extension to her house. In the past, she was often spotted shopping at Target and Walmart; these days, she sends her eldest daughter Bristol to the store, to avoid being mobbed by friends and well-wishers.
On one hand, "you can't do anything because everybody's watching when you go to the bathroom", says Eddie Burke, a Palin family friend who says he lost his job as a radio talk-show host after skirmishing with a Palin critic who worked at the same station. On the other, Burke says, she's facing the allure of big-money book deals. "So did she leave for money? Probably so."
Burke says he still chats with Todd about snow machining (Alaskan for snowmobiling) and was even involved in preparations with Palin for her rally with Glenn Beck. "If I was advising her on one thing: [it would be] never forget your roots, never forget where you come from. I think there was a part of her that kind of got caught up. If I was to advise her, she should not forget where she came from." He says he told this to Todd, creating some "friction".
Walt Monegan knows what it's like to have friction with the Palins on the grand scale. His firing as Palin's public safety commissioner led to the "Troopergate investigation". Monegan is still struggling with the fallout years later. The former Anchorage police chief still breaks down in tears when reminiscing about his time on the beat. If Palin does make a bid for the presidency, Monegan is sure to be held up by opponents as a case study in how she can wield power vindictively. He strongly cautioned against a future President Palin.
"I think it'd be a train wreck. You need to have a thick skin in public service, especially if you're going to be a boss of any sort. People are very opinionated; they will go up and tell you what they think about you, where you've gone wrong. You have to listen to them. You don't shut them off, you don't turn your back on them, and you certainly don't attack," Monegan said. "In her case, she is not mature enough, or doesn't understand that, or she has such a large goal that she feels she knows what's best for everybody and doesn't really need any other input."
Palin's foray this summer into the Alaska Senate race left similarly bruised feelings, exacerbating a long-running feud with the Murkowski family which has divided the state's Republican ranks. It started when former senator Frank Murkowski bypassed Palin when, upon election as governor, he decided to appoint his daughter to fill out the remainder of his term in Congress. Palin returned the favour by ousting Murkowski in the GOP 2006 gubernatorial primary. The fighting continued this summer, when Palin's decision to back Joe Miller helped propel him past Lisa Murkowski for the GOP Senate nomination.
Murkowski and her allies thought the move was personal. But SarahPAC (Political Action Committee) staffer Rebecca Mansour, perhaps the aide closest to Palin, said she did not endorse Miller in revenge on the family. "She did not endorse Joe Miller to get back at Lisa. Endorsing someone everyone thought would lose would not be a way to get back at Lisa. Her endorsement of Joe Miller was about principles, not personalities," Mansour said. "It was about Alaska and her belief that Alaska should have the freedom to develop its natural resources under federal control so it can become more of a giver to the nation through resource development instead of a taker of federal pork [district funding for a specific region]."
Murkowski's campaign manager was John Bitney, who, until recently, was a Palin ally. A high-school friend who ran her 2006 campaign for governor, Bitney had a falling out with Palin when she discovered Bitney was having an affair with a family friend, a woman to whom he is now married. Bitney is skewered in Palin's book, Going Rogue, and says she sometimes uses her power to intimidate – "taking a nuclear bomb when a fly swatter would have dealt with the issue," as he puts it.
"If you are perceived having been someone who has criticised her or been on the other side of her or someone that she's gone after [there's a feeling] that somehow she can hurt you," Bitney says. [People] "are scared of her". Bitney said. "That would really concern me to have that kind of power." Bitney adds: "I would love to have peace. I'm asking for a truce."
Ms Mansour does not recognise that picture: "I've worked for her for over a year, and I have not seen any mean side to her. She's not mean like that. I don't get that criticism. She's always been very kind and considerate with me."
In smoothing over some of these rifts, Palin's parents are a great asset. Monegan, the ex-public safety commissioner, says he hasn't had any contact with Palin or her inner circle. But last winter, he ran into Chuck Heath at a dinner celebrating Alaskan seafood. Heath ran over to Monegan and gave him a handshake and hug, telling him: "That's just politics. I still like you." Heath even went over to Monegan's table to meet his family and regale them with stories of his daughter's book tour.
Nobody knows the kind of sacrifices a new national campaign would entail quite like Palin's parents, who hit the trail in 2008. The night before the ballot, Chuck told an audience in Nevada that he was the one who taught Sarah "how to field-dress a moose"; on Election Day, he joked, she was going to "field-dress a donkey", much to the crowd's delight. These days, Sally often accompanies her daughter on trips outside Alaska, helping out with the grandkids, traveling to Washington for the Glenn Beck rally last month. (Chuck, for the time being, stays put: "I don't like to go during hunting season," he says.)
Has their daughter's fame affected them? "I still run with the same derelicts I did 30, 40 years ago and buy whatever beer's on sale," says Chuck with a laugh. "Hasn't changed me a bit."
They both said they don't see their daughter much (Chuck saying he keeps track of where she travels by watching Fox News) because she is on the road so often, but when they do they don't talk with their daughter about work.
"We don't talk politics. We talk hunting, fishing, sports, and family. Just normal family, none of the political stuff," her father said. "She hears enough advice from everyone and criticism from everyone and she doesn't need to hear my bad advice. We hunt together, fish together, travel together and we don't socialise out in the limelight anymore because she's mobbed. She can't walk into a store anymore. We go to a lot of gatherings together, but she has to sneak in."
Chuck Heath says his daughter has been busy this summer working on her show for TLC, Sarah Palin's Alaska, and gave a glimpse into what it will look like. He went caribou hunting with Palin and the TLC team and his favourite episode was their gold-mining adventure, he says: "The people in Nome treated us so well and we found not a lot of gold. But enough gold to make it interesting."