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Title: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: SgtSpar on September 18, 2010, 05:59:31 PM
Butterbean is not a great boxer but his record is 95 wins with 65 knockouts, 19 losses and 5 draws.   Fighting possibly the worst MMA fighter ever, a man with one win and one loss against absolute nobodys, Butterbean is immediately taken down and beaten in less than one minute without being touched by the boxer.  Cue the boxing excuses.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: pellius on September 18, 2010, 06:04:09 PM
Butterbean is not a great boxer but his record is 95 wins with 65 knockouts, 19 losses and 5 draws.   Fighting possibly the worst MMA fighter ever, a man with one win and one loss against absolute nobodys, Butterbean is immediately taken down and beaten in less than one minute without being touched by the boxer.  Cue the boxing excuses.

Did that happen already??? I completely missed it. Link?

Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2010, 06:11:15 PM
Theres a thread on here about it, it was sad.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: che on September 18, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
Butterbean is not a great boxer but his record is 95 wins with 65 knockouts, 19 losses and 5 draws.   Fighting possibly the worst MMA fighter ever, a man with one win and one loss against absolute nobodys, Butterbean is immediately taken down and beaten in less than one minute without being touched by the boxer.  Cue the boxing excuses.
C'mon man
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: SgtSpar on September 18, 2010, 10:54:36 PM
C'mon man

Do you disagree that Butterbean is a boxer, or that Pudz is one of the worst MMA fighters ever?
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: benchmstr on September 18, 2010, 11:06:34 PM
Do you disagree that Butterbean is was a boxer, or that Pudz is one of the worst MMA fighters gimmicks ever?
fixed

bench
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: SgtSpar on September 18, 2010, 11:07:44 PM
fixed

bench

Either way, he kicked Butterbean's ass.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: benchmstr on September 18, 2010, 11:10:30 PM
Either way, he kicked Butterbean's ass.
no one got their ass kicked....there was a decent ground and slap....but butterbean got right up after it was called...he couldnt defend himself from his back cause his fat limited his range of motion ;D

bench
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: LatsMcGee on September 19, 2010, 12:09:08 AM
Butterbean won Toughman titles,  he never really won any real boxing titles.  To say Esch represents boxing is a huge stretch.  Saying Pudz represents MMA is a joke onto itself. 
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: Parker on September 19, 2010, 12:12:16 AM
Butterbean won Toughman titles,  he never really won any real boxing titles.  To say Esch represents boxing is a huge stretch.  Saying Pudz represents MMA is a joke onto itself.  
Two jokes fighting each other....what's the punchline?
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: LatsMcGee on September 19, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
Two jokes fight in each other....what's the punchline?

The Punchines are the people who threw down their money to watch them do it.   
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: Pecs on September 19, 2010, 12:20:39 AM
Adding to that, ray mercer pull out of his fight this weekend too...
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: devilsmile on September 19, 2010, 01:27:11 AM
two clowns going at eachother...

but the polish clown somehow got the idea that he needs to slim down to aids level and get rid of his tann to make it more interesting to watch  :-\.... it's like butterbean thinks; "hey I know... I'll be on my back the ENTIRE fight, that would be enteraning!"

sheesh...

Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:16:27 AM
Butterbean is not a great boxer but his record is 95 wins with 65 knockouts, 19 losses and 5 draws.   Fighting possibly the worst MMA fighter ever, a man with one win and one loss against absolute nobodys, Butterbean is immediately taken down and beaten in less than one minute without being touched by the boxer.  Cue the boxing excuses.

its amazing that butterbean STILL has NO FUCKING IDEA what to do when he hits the ground. Embarrassing. HE could just have gave pudja his back and STOOD UP.

Props to Pudja though.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:17:49 AM
two clowns going at eachother...

but the polish clown somehow got the idea that he needs to slim down to aids level and get rid of his tann to make it more interesting to watch  :-\.... it's like butterbean thinks; "hey I know... I'll be on my back the ENTIRE fight, that would be enteraning!"

sheesh...



Pudja slimmed down to be able to fight for more then 20 sec without almost dying. too much muscle in mma is a curse.

and 255 isnt exactly "aids level"

Pudja should have pulled an armbar lol
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: devilsmile on September 19, 2010, 02:21:07 AM
Pudja slimmed down to be able to fight for more then 20 sec without almost dying. too much muscle in mma is a curse.

Hey I know that but, like you said, "20 seconds longer without dying"

To last long in the octagon takes tens of years of conditioning and training so you can fight 5x 5min rounds... pudja just lifted weights, tanned and jogged for 2km's every now and then.

He might aswell kept his powerfull strengths to fight, I think he would have done somewhat better, this form he has now is TOTALLY new to him, I think he even gets confused how weak he has become in pure strength, he doesn't know what to do.

I make sense?
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
Hey I know that but, like you said, "20 seconds longer without dying"

To last long in the octagon takes tens of years of conditioning and training so you can fight 5x 5min rounds... pudja just lifted weights, tanned and jogged for 2km's every now and then.

He might aswell kept his powerfull strengths to fight, I think he would have done somewhat better, this form he has now is TOTALLY new to him, I think he even gets confused how weak he has become in pure strength, he doesn't know what to do.

I make sense?

he hasn't really proven any type of skill at all, got killed standing up, 1-2 leg kicks and just slapping gnp.


But he did stand infront ot ButterBean with 4 oz gloves with minimal ammount of mma training. Not many men in the world would do that.

I doubt people wanna see skills form him though, just brawling, that will earn him some money.

Im just pissed at Butterbean after 24 mma matches stioll doesn't know ANYTHING from the ground. he could have Easily gotten up and the match would have been longer/more entertaining.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: devilsmile on September 19, 2010, 02:29:52 AM
he hasn't really proven any type of skill at all, got killed standing up, 1-2 leg kicks and just slapping gnp.


But he did stand infront ot ButterBean with 4 oz gloves with minimal ammount of mma training. Not many men in the world would do that.

I doubt people wanna see skills form him though, just brawling, that will earn him some money.

Im just pissed at Butterbean after 24 mma matches stioll doesn't know ANYTHING from the ground. he could have Easily gotten up and the match would have been longer/more entertaining.

Yeah I guess but it seems pudzia wants to become an mma fighter... too bad he didn't figure it out 20 years earlyer, but I guess it's a trend now days that people start developing themselves at older age. It's because of this new era of consciense, the old christian beliefs that you should stay still and do what you have allways done are being thrown out of the window, people want to do other things.

More and more people go into mma in all serious attitude it's funny  :P
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:31:02 AM
Bean against someone that can fight and getting out boxed lol.

Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:32:46 AM
Yeah I guess but it seems pudzia wants to become an mma fighter... too bad he didn't figure it out 20 years earlyer, but I guess it's a trend now days that people start developing themselves at older age. It's because of this new era of consciense, the old christian beliefs that you should stay still and do what you have allways done are being thrown out of the window, people want to do other things.

More and more people go into mma in all serious attitude it's funny  :P

Probably just something he wanna try before he retires and Im fine with that. Its not like hes fighting in the ufc or anything lol.
People that watches his fights now what to expect. And as I said, he stood toe to toe with butterbean for alot longer then I thought, That deserves respect.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 02:41:56 AM


Butterbean getting outboxed Again. (almost ko'ing the guy though)

Butterbean just taps when he gets hit a few times wtf.. in almsot evey singel loss hes just taps out like dare I say it? a bitch lol.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 03:04:59 AM
BB getting the worst ass kicking of his life. And Pretty muck Ko'ed

Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: Jaime on September 19, 2010, 04:45:52 AM
Hey Swede, has Bean ever fought any top ranked mma guys, borderline top 25? Or does he do what he did in boxing fighting guys not even in the top 100?  ??? Props to Marius though, he is getting a lot of shit off of guys that have never fought, it takes balls to even make the step, he should just drill grappling constantly, he could use his core strength more efficently than trying to strike, which isn't a strong point.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 04:49:07 AM
Hey Swede, has Bean ever fought any top ranked mma guys, borderline top 25? Or does he do what he did in boxing fighting guys not even in the top 100?  ??? Props to Marius though, he is getting a lot of shit off of guys that have never fought, it takes balls to even make the step, he should just drill grappling constantly, he could use his core strength more efficently than trying to strike, which isn't a strong point.

I doubt even top 100 lol

maby Wesley Correira was top 100 at one point though and he won that fight but lost the k-1 version of the fight in the "re-match" butterbean is just a freakshow like pudja.

He was ALOT faster a few years ago also
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: SgtSpar on September 19, 2010, 07:45:23 AM
Bean against someone that can fight and getting out boxed lol.



That is the same guy that beat me in a fight in Denver.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 07:47:24 AM
That is the same guy that beat me in a fight in Denver.

lol, tell me what happened.

He's keeping his chin waay up lol.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2010, 07:52:07 AM
 ::)

oh brother...bean was a club fighter with a good right and short left hook against journeymen fighters.  now...he is a representative for boxing.  we already went over this.  unless a boxer has some basic high school roman wrestling skills to help him fight thru the take downs...the conversion just doesnt work even with one yr of training at chute.  hence...bobby, brock and even kirk angle have done/would do well.  time to put a lid on the mma vs boxing thing.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 07:54:06 AM
::)

oh brother...bean was a club fighter with a good right and short left hook against journeymen fighters.  now...he is a representative for boxing.  we already went over this.  unless a boxer has some basic high school roman wrestling skills to help him fight thru the take downs...the conversion just doesnt work even with one yr of training at chute.  hence...bobby, brock and even kirk angle have done/would do well.  time to put a lid on the mma vs boxing thing.

Im sure you could take him right?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: che on September 19, 2010, 07:56:29 AM
::)

oh brother...bean was a club fighter with a good right and short left hook against journeymen fighters.  now...he is a representative for boxing.  we already went over this.  unless a boxer has some basic high school roman wrestling skills to help him fight thru the take downs...the conversion just doesnt work even with one yr of training at chute.  hence...bobby, brock and even kirk angle have done/would do well.  time to put a lid on the mma vs boxing thing.

First time we agree on something,G thong
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 07:57:39 AM
First time we agree on something,G thong

I thought the "lid was put on it" at ufc 1 but apparently not
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: che on September 19, 2010, 07:58:52 AM
I thought the "lid was put on it" at ufc 1 but apparently not
It's a retarded argument
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2010, 08:00:42 AM
Im sure you could take him right?  ::) ::)

no...you f##king little midget.  i get my a$$ kicked by anderson silva, butterbean, buster douglas in a wheel chair in a diabetic coma, kimbo with one hand behind his back and so forth...but i'd whip your lil a$$.  that's for sure.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 08:00:51 AM
It's a retarded argument

One of the worst lol.

Can you imagine if 90% of mma fans started arguing that brock lesnar and carwin etc would beat the world champ in boxing? ...in a bozing match  ;D

And even though they were proven wrong, the discussion would still remain for 10 + years
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 08:02:13 AM
no...you f##king little midget.  i get my a$$ kicked by anderson silva, butterbean, buster douglas in a wheel chair in a diabetic coma, kimbo with one hand behind his back and so forth...but i'd whip your lil a$$.  that's for sure.

You wouldnt stand a chance against butterbean bro.. dont even go there
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2010, 08:10:52 AM

i'd get my a$$ kicked by anderson silva, butterbean

You wouldnt stand a chance against butterbean bro.. dont even go there  ::)

Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2010, 08:16:38 AM
no...you f##king little midget.  i get my a$$ kicked by anderson silva, butterbean, buster douglas in a wheel chair in a diabetic coma, kimbo with one hand behind his back and so forth...but i'd whip your lil a$$.  that's for sure.

Epic thirld world internet threats. ::)
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2010, 08:19:48 AM
Epic thirld world internet threats. ::)

 ::) tire man

threats are impossible because we are all unknowns...dumba$$.
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2010, 08:22:41 AM
::) tire man

threats are impossible because we are all unknowns...dumba$$.
You just threatened to whip his little ass over the internet.......and I'm the dumbass?

That's brown logic right there. :)
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 08:34:12 AM
ebonics

you just said you could kick butterbeans ass while sitting in a wheelchair
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: spinnis on September 19, 2010, 08:35:59 AM
You just threatened to whip his little ass over the internet.......and I'm the dumbass?

That's brown logic right there. :)

Im calling bs  ;D
Title: Re: Boxing vs MMA II
Post by: SgtSpar on September 19, 2010, 03:09:34 PM
lol, tell me what happened.

He's keeping his chin waay up lol.

It wasn't MMA, it was a full contact Karate match in Denver, no gloves, no pads.  I was supposed to fight another 180 lb guy, but Pat Smith's opponent didn't show up.  I was young and cocky and thought I could beat the world so I offered to take the fight.  Pat Smith was 235 that night.  I lead the fight with the best low kick I had into his lead leg and he didn't even flinch.  Then he kicked me around the ring for the next three rounds.  I think I hit him as often as he hit me but I didn't have any effect on him and he was kicking me so hard my feet were coming off the ground.  I could barely walk for a week after the fight.