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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: keanu on September 20, 2010, 05:33:19 AM
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian thing just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. Loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian things just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
STFU, noob.
If you don't like Dorian or Ronnie, fuck off the site.
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STFU, noob.
If you don't like Dorian or Ronnie, fuck off the site.
You've missed the point. It's never about Ronnie or Dorian, it always about them.
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You've missed the point. It's never about Ronnie or Dorian, it always about them.
No, i didn't miss the point.
Hulkster and ND are true fans of bodybuilding, if you have sth against them, you have something against the sport.
Two men arguing over years and years which man looks better in a thong, this is real fanship, this is honoring the great athletes that do their best and abuse drugs to make people like ND and Hulkster happy... :'( :'(
If you don't like it, you're not welcome here.
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STFU, noob.
If you don't like Dorian or Ronnie, fuck off the site.
For once, I agree with DK. Hulkster and ND are pretty much the only two people in this board who actually discuss a bodybuilding topic on a bodybuilding board, besides the Nasser fans. They are two of the few people who come here to discuss the topic that this board was created for. Without them, it would be endless threads about everything except bodybuilding. Let them be.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ronnie is still better.
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian thing just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. Loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
I'd rather see Dorian and Ronnie in a posing thong than Hulkster and ND.
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STFU, noob.
If you don't like Dorian or Ronnie, fuck off the site.
:o
it's a new word. i'm going to have to index it with "tool" and "owned".
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian thing just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. Loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Hulkster lost already , hence why he trolls. what else is he gonna do? Ronnie said many times after he won the Olympia he still could NOT beat Dorian.
poor Hulkster never recovered. :(
P.I.P Hulkster
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian thing just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. Loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
it's a good idea but nobody on getbig can put up or shutup, that's why getbig is still around
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Hulkster lost already , hence why he trolls. what else is he gonna do? Ronnie said many times after he won the Olympia he still could NOT beat Dorian.
poor Hulkster never recovered. :(
P.I.P Hulkster
serious?
Ronnie would destroy Dorian
I dont understand why he said that
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serious?
Ronnie would destroy Dorian
I dont understand why he said that
Ronnie doesn't think so ;D this is what drove poor Hulkster in the trolling pit of despair he now finds himself in , poor kid invested all this time in trying to convince everyone Ronnie is better than Ronnie says he's not. owned by his own hero that's the best part. ;D
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Ronnie is still better.
This pic of RONNIE is the best bodybuilding picture ever!!! JUST SIC!
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its funny how ND tries to put quotes out of context to unsuspecting getbiggers.
ronnie commented on the politics of the day which everyone knows.
the judges would never let dorian lose not matter how shitty he looked relative to his competition and everyone knows this including ronnie. hell, see 1994, 97 for prime proof of this.
but when specifically asked who would win in terms of physique if he, Arnold, Dorian and Haney stepped onstage, Ronnie said he would win.
this is the quote ND never quotes because it negates everything else ronnie has said re him vs dorian.
ronnie is specifically talking about physiques, not politics.
and ND wishes he never said this.. ::)
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poor kid invested all this time in trying to convince everyone Ronnie is better than Ronnie says he's not
nope sorry.
see above post. the link to the interview has been posted many times on here.
its the one you pretend doesn't exist, remember? ::)
ND caught in a lie again.
typical.
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Getbig wouldn't be the same without Hulkster and ND
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Since the Ronnie vs Dorian thing just goes back and forth, never finding a conclusion why not settle things. Have a contest, all the mandatory poses. Loser leaves town. No more hijacking or creating the same thread over and over for years and years. The winner can nuthug his hero all he wants in peace. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
No one would win, bodybuilding is subjective thats why there's always controversy in an outcome.
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serious?
Ronnie would destroy Dorian
I dont understand why he said that
Ronnie is just humble guy not talking crap. He don't want to irritate Dorian...
Of course Ronnie knows he was at his prime light years better than Dorian ever. Heck, look at it... Ronnie was twice the size of Dorian with better shape and all...
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its funny how ND tries to put quotes out of context to unsuspecting getbiggers.
ronnie commented on the politics of the day which everyone knows.
the judges would never let dorian lose not matter how shitty he looked relative to his competition and everyone knows this including ronnie. hell, see 1994, 97 for prime proof of this.
but when specifically asked who would win in terms of physique if he, Arnold, Dorian and Haney stepped onstage, Ronnie said he would win.
this is the quote ND never quotes because it negates everything else ronnie has said re him vs dorian.
ronnie is specifically talking about physiques, not politics.
and ND wishes he never said this.. ::)
hehehehehhehehe Hulkster reduced to speaking on what Ronnie " REALLY " meant lol poor kid you're far gone
he never mentioned politics , he never made excuses he's not like you ;)
Ronnie could have said a lot of things but he said Dorian would beat him and he's said it often ;D
and he never said he would beat Arnold , Dorian and Haney liar
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Ronnie is just humble guy not talking crap. He don't want to irritate Dorian...
Of course Ronnie knows he was at his prime light years better than Dorian ever. Heck, look at it... Ronnie was twice the size of Dorian with better shape and all...
at his prime? he was not even bigger than Dorian
A lot of people making excuses for Ronnie , but hey what else can you do?
if Ronnie truly felt he could beat Dorian he would have said so , he said Jay better be reborn with better genetics and he must be on crack to think he could ever beat him , he said he was robbed by Gunther in 2002 , Ronnie says what he feels and just because he feels Dorian would beat him doesn't fit your point of view don't presume to speak on what he was really thinking ;)
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Great shot ;D
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it's a good idea but nobody on getbig can put up or shutup, that's why getbig is still around
The true get big cyber warrior "puts up" a pic on line and then ...the server crashes, end of story
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Getbig wouldn't be the same without Hulkster and ND
I agree, it would be a lot more hetero.
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at his prime? he was not even bigger than Dorian
same size, but a lot better:
dorian's signature shot gets crushed, and it drives ND crazy:
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nope sorry.
see above post. the link to the interview has been posted many times on here.
its the one you pretend doesn't exist, remember? ::)
ND caught in a lie again.
typical.
yeah another example of Ronnie admitting he couldn't beat Dorian........... in his era ;)
three times he admitted this , he could have said a lot of things , he said Dorian would beat him consistently get over it , your excuses are old :-\
Ronnie was never good enough to beat Dorian and when he got good enough to beat the guys Dorian dominated , he admitted the truth , he couldn't do it either ;)
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I agree, it would be a lot more hetero.
lol
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same size, but a lot better:
dorian's signature shot gets crushed, and it drives ND crazy:
One that's NOT his prime , NO ONE says it is ;)
Same size? you mean same weight? the only thing they have in common is the number , Dorian crushes him on density & dryness , there is a vast difference between 257lbs dense & dry and Ronnie's softer size , you still need to learn the basics
Ronnie's best Olympia according to him and many , many experts is 1998 , he was 249lbs
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I agree, it would be a lot more hetero.
:-X you can't find any posts from me like this sorry
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348947.0;attach=383347;image) (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SRCsvH3a4_I/AAAAAAAABAw/CFzg6t7zBXE/s400/dorian-yates-3.jpg)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348947.0;attach=383347;image) (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/SRCsvH3a4_I/AAAAAAAABAw/CFzg6t7zBXE/s400/dorian-yates-3.jpg)
269lbs crushing Ronnie's soft 257 ;D insult to injury Ronnie is 283 in this pic
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;D
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:o
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Ronnie is much better than that other guy.
296 shredded, 800 lb deadlifts and squats. You can't beat that.
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:o :o
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:-X you can't find any posts from me like this sorry
I don't even bother to search, but your manlove towards Dorian is legendary.
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Ronnie is much better than that other guy.
296 shredded, 800 lb deadlifts and squats. You can't beat that.
hehehehehehe 296 ' shredded '
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hehehehehehe 296 ' shredded '
He was.....1 day out. ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329321.0;attach=369620;image)
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He was.....1 day out. ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329321.0;attach=369620;image)
Ronnie's arms are always lean , it's the rest of his physique that is fat & holding water , although his triceps looked like shit , looked like someone took an eraser to them ???
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OK guys.. watch this but don't get homo over his thongs :-X
Just look at that mass monster - show me one as impressive photo of Dorian! Dorian was great indeed but nowhere near Ronnie:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TCuqjZDkxBI/AAAAAAAAMEw/o3MsQ6dhfqQ/s1600/Ronnie+Coleman+-+02+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.JPG)
(http://axon.blogg.se/images/2009/ronnie_coleman_photo340_29818577.jpg)
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OK guys.. watch this but don't get homo over his thongs :-X
Just look at that mass monster - show me one as impressive photo of Dorian! Dorian was great indeed but nowhere near Ronnie:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TCuqjZDkxBI/AAAAAAAAMEw/o3MsQ6dhfqQ/s1600/Ronnie+Coleman+-+02+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.JPG)
(http://axon.blogg.se/images/2009/ronnie_coleman_photo340_29818577.jpg)
those photos do not exist, and therefore pictures don't count. stick around ND will type you an essay about it later
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no they stay
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Ronnie > Dorian
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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Ronnie by a mile, just to be On topic once.
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those photos do not exist, and therefore pictures don't count. stick around ND will type you an essay about it later
Those photos don't exist to Ronnie fan-boys but for the rest of us who don't have their heads shoved up Ronnie's ass they do. ;)
Ronnie just to incomplete , unbalanced and lacking in density & dryness to be compared to Dorian , he may have had an easy time with the lackluster competition he faced but he never once faced anyone in Dorian's league and after given it much thought he said on multiple occasions he couldn't get the job done , no surprise to those of us who know how contests are judged.
Ronnie just wasn't built right. ;D
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It looks like the two homos are back at it again. ;D
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serious?
Ronnie would destroy Dorian
I dont understand why he said that
Because he was being humble. Some guys here just don't understand that.
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That's "dense and dry" enough for me. Yate's achilles is his arms. Ronnie takes the edge. Sorry ND.
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That's "dense and dry" enough for me. Yate's achilles is his arms. Ronnie takes the edge. Sorry ND.
And that is a 99 pic.
98 he was even drier, Ronnie indeed takes the edge.
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Because he was being humble. Some guys here just don't understand that.
Says you , try he was being honest. Ronnie could have said a lot of things , he didn't ;)
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That's "dense and dry" enough for me. Yate's achilles is his arms. Ronnie takes the edge. Sorry ND.
You don't judge contests and , Ronnie's achilles is his lackluster conditioning ( compared to Dorian ) and his calves ( and abs and balance conditioning ) , it works both ways.
Ronnie settled this issue now lots of lost fans boys trying to do damage control. ;D
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Says you , try he was being honest. Ronnie could have said a lot of things , he didn't ;)
Maybe, but we'll never what he truly meant.
Anyway, didn't Dorian say Ronnie would probably beat him and just added "I don't know" at the end?
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Maybe, but we'll never what he truly meant.
Anyway, didn't Dorian say Ronnie would probably beat him and just added "I don't know" at the end?
No maybe , we do know what he meant , he said it at least twice outright. he could have said a lot of things he said what he said , get over it.
he said ' I guess , I don't know ' , big difference between what Ronnie said and what Dorian said.
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and he never said he would beat Arnold , Dorian and Haney liar
everyone take note that ND is claiming a valid quote is a lie because it doesn't fit his agenda ::).
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/rcinter.htm
5. Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?
R.C. Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win
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and there you have it getbiggers.
when asked directly who would win between ronnie, dorian, haney and Arnold all one one stage at their best ever shapes,
ronnie said he would win.[/font]ND is fucked royally and will probably never recover.
probably calling the suicide hotline right now. if its not already too late LOL
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what was that about lying flowerboy? LOL ::)
you are so damn pathetic.
luckily you have the rest of us to correct you.
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Breaking news:
TMZ is reporting that ND has just commited suicide by choking to death on dorian's cock.
stay tuned for more updates as they cum come in.
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HAHAHA like either one of these two fags will ever post a pic, I'm sure most on here can imagine how bad they look
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everyone take note that ND is claiming a valid quote is a lie because it doesn't fit his agenda ::).
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/rcinter.htm
5. Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?
R.C.
You act like this is the first time that's ever been posted ::) old news and you omitted another part ;)
I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.
He never said he would beat them he left that to the imagination and that quote doesn't replace these ;D
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
poor kid you still haven't recovered :-\
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what was that about lying flowerboy? LOL ::)
you are so damn pathetic.
luckily you have the rest of us to correct you.
Where does he say he would beat them? he doesn't in fact he said he couldn't beat them in their hey-day ;)
owned again lying fan-boy
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
he doesn't think so , he knows so ;D
run along bitch
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what the fuck do you mean where does he say he would beat them?
he says right in his answer - "this is the age of ronnie coleman, who else would win?"
he advanced the sport to a level beyond any of them and he knows it. he would win.
and he says so quite clearly.
sorry if you can't understand english.. ::)
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what the fuck do you mean where does he say he would beat them?
he says right in his answer - "this is the age of ronnie coleman, who else would win?"
he advanced the sport to a level beyond any of them and he knows it. he would win.
and he says so quite clearly.
sorry if you can't understand english.. ::)
He says he couldn't beat them in their hey day MISS that part you fucking moron? NO you didn't you purposely left it out because he admits for a third time he can't beat Dorian ;)
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
English Mother Fucker do you speak it?
" Ronnie I know so "
owned , run along cry baby bitch Ronnie stated at least three times he couldn't touch Dorian , keep crying it's all you can do. ;)
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what the fuck do you mean where does he say he would beat them?
he says right in his answer - "this is the age of ronnie coleman, who else would win?"
he advanced the sport to a level beyond any of them and he knows it. he would win.
and he says so quite clearly.
sorry if you can't understand english.. ::)
I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.
;D
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so they both say the other would win
next arguement
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the heydey comment is a direct and explicit reference to the politics of each particular champion's reign.
the first part of the answer (that he would win) is a direct and explicit reference to the fact that physique wise, he was better.
but put him onstage against the politics of each champion and he would not win.
if he stepped onstage during the 70's against Arnold, the judges would have still picked arnold for example.. Ronnie's giant quads were not the norm. the judges wanted Arnold's toothpicks, for example. so they would still pick him etc.
put them all onstage at the same time and simply judge who has the best physique without regard to the different eras - Ronnie would win. he says so in the first part of his answer.
you can't get any more clear than this. its exactly what ronnie says.
why do you continue to deny this? ??? ::)
do you have trouble with the english?
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so they both say the other would win
next arguement
game over:
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Ronnie was a little bigger version of current Phil Heath. Dorian was something else.
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yeah, he was something else alright.. :-*
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Dorian wins midsection but Ronnie wins everything else
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the heydey comment is a direct and explicit reference to the politics of each particular champion's reign.
the first part of the answer (that he would win) is a direct and explicit reference to the fact that physique wise, he was better.
but put him onstage against the politics of each champion and he would not win.
if he stepped onstage during the 70's against Arnold, the judges would have still picked arnold for example.. Ronnie's giant quads were not the norm. the judges wanted Arnold's toothpicks, for example. so they would still pick him etc.
put them all onstage at the same time and simply judge who has the best physique without regard to the different eras - Ronnie would win. he says so in the first part of his answer.
you can't get any more clear than this. its exactly what ronnie says.
why do you continue to deny this? ??? ::)
do you have trouble with the english?
Says you and what else are you gonna say? you're stuck presuming to speak for Ronnie , spare us your nutt-hugging excuses fanboy
Put them all on-stage and judge them on the criteria contests are judged by and Dorian wins period. Dorian has him on balance & proportion , density & dryness , and depending on the year muscular bulk , Dorian beats him on posing & presentation
Ronnie's been pretty clear after he started winning Olympias that he would NOT beat Dorian , you can't change this no matter how you try and it kills you ;)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost
No excuses , no bullshit. would you have smoked him? No
Again
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
You think so? Ronnie: I know so.
NO excuses NO bullshit.
When Ronnie admitted these quotes it ended any ' argument ' you can try and come up with , it ended any ' debate ' between us , Ronnie has gone on record as stating Dorian would beat him with no excuses or bullshit.
case closed , end of story ................check mate , read em and weep.
You are owned by Ronnie and lost. I used your own hero against you and it's killing you ;D get over it I won you lost.
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there is no presuming to speak for ronnie.
the quote is very clear.
sorry if you don't get it but everyone else does. ::)
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Ok ND, so now we have a quote were Ronnie said he wouldn't able to beat Haney, Arnold or Dorian. Seriously? Compare Ronnie 1998 vs Haney 1991 or Ronnie 1998 vs any Arnold, its pretty clear who would beat who going by judging criteria.
You want proof of something? This is proof of Ronnie being humble once again, saying he wouldn't be able to beat Haney.
It shows that Ronnie is always humble in his interviews.
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Ok ND, so now we have a quote were Ronnie said he wouldn't able to beat Haney, Arnold or Dorian. Seriously? Compare Ronnie 1998 vs Haney 1991 or Ronnie 1998 vs any Arnold, its pretty clear who would beat who going by judging criteria.
You want proof of something? This is proof of Ronnie being humble once again, saying he wouldn't be able to beat Haney.
It shows that Ronnie is always humble in his interviews.
x2. the only people who think that dorian is better than ronnie are racist euro skinheads who cant accept that a black dude was the best bodybuilder off all time. get over it, ronnie was the best. Even Stevie Wonder can see this.
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ND won this argument before it even started. In fact Dorian Yates won it for him years ago. On the other hand Hulkster lost the whole Yates Vs. Coleman debate on page 1 of the truce thread. Hardly surprising since his middle name is "owned". LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=76481;image)
Above: A reminder of when Hulk"owned"ster lost the argument all that time ago. What a wanker!
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ND won this argument before it even started. In fact Dorian Yates won it for him years ago. On the other hand Hulkster lost the whole Yates Vs. Coleman debate on page 1 of the truce thread. Hardly surprising since his middle name is "owned". LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=76481;image)
Above: A reminder of when Hulk"owned"ster lost the argument all that time ago. What a wanker!
Damn, look how much bigger Dorian is.
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there is no presuming to speak for ronnie.
the quote is very clear.
sorry if you don't get it but everyone else does. ::)
You presume to speak for Ronnie all the time , " well what Ronnie really meant " ::) we know what Ronnie means , he said it twice plain as day he could NOT beat Dorian ;)
checkmate STFU crybaby
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Ok ND, so now we have a quote were Ronnie said he wouldn't able to beat Haney, Arnold or Dorian. Seriously? Compare Ronnie 1998 vs Haney 1991 or Ronnie 1998 vs any Arnold, its pretty clear who would beat who going by judging criteria.
You want proof of something? This is proof of Ronnie being humble once again, saying he wouldn't be able to beat Haney.
It shows that Ronnie is always humble in his interviews.
Ronnie is always humble in his interviews? recall Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me? Jay better be reborn with better genetics if he thinks he can beat me? being white help Jay beat him in 06? Gunther didn't beat him in 2002 it was politics? please go learn what you're talking about before you type.
does Ronnie think Arnold or Lee could beat him? probably not they never faced him , Dorian did and beat him and everyone else with ease now couple that with the other two times he clearly said Dorian would beat him and you have Ronnie being honest , I know it kills you guys and you have to make a ton of excuses but Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him even if you can't comprehend it.
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x2. the only people who think that dorian is better than ronnie are racist euro skinheads who cant accept that a black dude was the best bodybuilder off all time. get over it, ronnie was the best. Even Stevie Wonder can see this.
Ronnie isn't a white racist skinhead he thinks Dorian is better ;)
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ND won this argument before it even started. In fact Dorian Yates won it for him years ago. On the other hand Hulkster lost the whole Yates Vs. Coleman debate on page 1 of the truce thread. Hardly surprising since his middle name is "owned". LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=76481;image)
Above: A reminder of when Hulk"owned"ster lost the argument all that time ago. What a wanker!
hehehehehehe Hulkster lost via his own hero ,Ronnie settled this argument a long time ago , now all he has left is excuses and attacks
I beat Hulkster using his own hero , Ronnie said three times he could NOT beat Dorian , checkmate Hulkster go eat a bowl of dicks fanboy ;D
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost
No excuses , no bullshit. would you have smoked him? No
Again
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
You think so? Ronnie: I know so.
NO excuses NO bullshit.
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hehehehehehe Hulkster lost via his own hero ,Ronnie settled this argument a long time ago , now all he has left is excuses and attacks
I beat Hulkster using his own hero , Ronnie said three times he could NOT beat Dorian , checkmate Hulkster go eat a bowl of dicks fanboy ;D
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost
No excuses , no bullshit. would you have smoked him? No
Again
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
You think so? Ronnie: I know so.
NO excuses NO bullshit.
Hulkster lost the argument from all angles. LOL
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Ronnie is always humble in his interviews? recall Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me? Jay better be reborn with better genetics if he thinks he can beat me? being white help Jay beat him in 06? Gunther didn't beat him in 2002 it was politics? please go learn what you're talking about before you type.
does Ronnie think Arnold or Lee could beat him? probably not they never faced him , Dorian did and beat him and everyone else with ease now couple that with the other two times he clearly said Dorian would beat him and you have Ronnie being honest , I know it kills you guys and you have to make a ton of excuses but Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him even if you can't comprehend it.
Don't forget guys like Haney, Dorian and Arnold are bb's Ronnie probably looked up to when he was coming up, but Jay and Gunther aren't, they were just his top competition.
Do you think Ronnie was going to have the same attitude towards guys he looked up to as with Jay? Probably not.
And Dorian did beat Ronnie, but as you know Ronnie was far from his best.
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Don't forget guys like Haney, Dorian and Arnold are bb's Ronnie probably looked up to when he was coming up, but Jay and Gunther aren't, they were just his top competition.
Do you think Ronnie was going to have the same attitude towards guys he looked up to as with Jay? Probably not.
And Dorian did beat Ronnie, but as you know Ronnie was far from his best.
That has absolutely nothing do to with what you typed , you claimed ( wrongly ) Ronnie is always humble in his interviews.
Ronnie was far from his best when Dorian beat him? what a year away? and that doesn't change anything because subsequent to winning multiple Mr Olympias Ronnie said twice he would NOT beat Dorian
this renders anything you or Hulkster or Neo or pumpster have to say on the subject NULL & VOID
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Hulkster lost the argument from all angles. LOL
He really did , he lost it because he doesn't even know how contests are judged and then Ronnie ended anything he had to say when he admitted that he couldn't get the job done when it came to beating Dorian , no big admission NO ONE could , not Flex , not Kevin , not Shawn , not Dillett , and not Ronnie ;D
idiots believe all the bullshit they type about Dorian and can't grasp he was the most dominate force in IFBB history , Ronnie had handfulls of trouble with guys Dorian wiped the floor with when they were in their primes , you think Jay or Gunther could ever beat Yates even an off one? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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again here they're both being humble they both say the other would win
next damn argument
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That has absolutely nothing do to with what you typed , you claimed ( wrongly ) Ronnie is always humble in his interviews.
Ronnie was far from his best when Dorian beat him? what a year away? and that doesn't change anything because subsequent to winning multiple Mr Olympias Ronnie said twice he would NOT beat Dorian
this renders anything you or Hulkster or Neo or pumpster have to say on the subject NULL & VOID
Alright let me change it for you: Ronnie is humble when asked questions regarding bb's he looked up to, including Dorian, Haney, etc.
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Since you cling so much on what Ronnie said, let's assume Ronnie was being honest. Does it mean its 100% accurate?
Shawn Ray said he should've beaten Dorian in 94 & 97. Does it make it true? According to your logic it does, since everything bb's say is 100 % accurate. Plenty of other bb's have said Ronnie is the best ever, that must also be the end of it all.
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ND never understands the flaws in his own arguments.
he clings to ronnie saying he couldn't beat dorian, haney and arnold in their political heydeys, but seems to ignore the fact that he specificially said he would win if they all stepped onstage today at their best ever shapes.
ND ignores this last part.
in terms of physiques, ronnie explicitly stated he would win.
but he acknowledges that during each champion's winning streak, the politics of the day would have prevented him from winning no matter how much better he was than they were.
what is so difficult to understand about this statement? its exactly what ronnie said.. ???
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Alright let me change it for you: Ronnie is humble when asked questions regarding bb's he looked up to, including Dorian, Haney, etc.
Says you , which means you're attempting to presume to know what he is thinking.
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there is no presuming ND.
its perfectly clear.
you know the part where he said he would win if they all stepped on stage tomorrow at their bests?
thats the part you are ignoring.. ::)
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its sad how ND can't even understand simple english statements about the sport.
sad and pathetic.
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ND never understands the flaws in his own arguments.
he clings to ronnie saying he couldn't beat dorian, haney and arnold in their political heydeys, but seems to ignore the fact that he specificially said he would win if they all stepped onstage today at their best ever shapes.
ND ignores this last part.
in terms of physiques, ronnie explicitly stated he would win.
but he acknowledges that during each champion's winning streak, the politics of the day would have prevented him from winning no matter how much better he was than they were.
what is so difficult to understand about this statement? its exactly what ronnie said.. ???
You ignore these parts.
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO
and this
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
end of story , thanks for playing YOU LOSE ;)
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there is no presuming ND.
its perfectly clear.
you know the part where he said he would win if they all stepped on stage tomorrow at their bests?
thats the part you are ignoring.. ::)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO
and this
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
perfectly clear ;)
again you lose
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Since you cling so much on what Ronnie said, let's assume Ronnie was being honest. Does it mean its 100% accurate?
Shawn Ray said he should've beaten Dorian in 94 & 97. Does it make it true? According to your logic it does, since everything bb's say is 100 % accurate. Plenty of other bb's have said Ronnie is the best ever, that must also be the end of it all.
Does it mean it's accurate? NO but his thoughts on the subject render yours , Hulksters , Neos and anyone else MOOT
But some points to ponder , Ronnie NEVER beat Dorian , Dorian always beat Ronnie there is very good reason why Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him because Dorian is a pure winner and beat everyone with ease Ronnie at his best ( 98/01 ) didn't bring anything to the table that Dorian couldn't handle
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too bad real life renders his thoughts moot too:
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its sad how ND can't even understand simple english statements about the sport.
sad and pathetic.
Sad & pathetic is you crushed by your own hero and cling to this fantasy that he's some times right ignoring the fact that twice subsequent to that quote he's said outright he would not beat Dorian
Ronnie could say I would beat Dorian on-stage at his best and it still wouldn't mean much , talk is cheap and no one beat Dorian and Ronnie at his best would be lucky to beat him so either way you're fucked
sad & pathetic is this is all you know , following me around trying to rehash an argument YOU LOST by your own hero
sad & pathetic is you're begging anyone to agree with you and trying to question anyones knowledge of the sport when you're the laughing stock on the subject
sad & pathetic is you can't let go of me kicking your ass in the truce thread and beating you using your own hero , you think bringing up the subject will somehow change the FACT Ronnie conceded to Dorian's superiority twice after he won the Olympia crown
you are beaten I own you ;)
thanks for playing
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too bad real life renders his thoughts moot too:
Hahahahahaha meltdown , the typical Hulkster meltdown
sucks losing huh?
I taught you how & why Dorian would beat Ronnie and then Ronnie agreed with me
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO
and this
im: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
you think so? Ronnie: NO I know so. ;)
real life isn't your shitty pics of Dorian & your carefully selected poses of Ronnie , real life is Ronnie saying , Dorian is way advanced and he would beat me ;)
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again here they're both being humble they both say the other would win
next damn argument
You have to understand there is NO argument , Hulkster lost and he can't accept it
there is no next argument which is why Hulkster keeps trying to bring up the old one , and I can rubbing huis face in his own shit
Ronnie said Dorian would beat him twice now , that is the end of the story.
Hulkster lost he can't handle getting his ass kicked by me now he tries everything to equal the score and he can't , I don't explain to him anymore why Dorian would win , I just throw the Ronnie quotes in his face , embarrass him on all the stupid things he typed and generally make him look like the retard he is , until the next time I feel like making him look dumb.
I post on the sport on the current scene , the past , etc , Hulkster is stuck on an argument he lost and bashing the person who kicked his ass , it's all he knows , he's obsessed with me just look at his sigs , just look at his posts all he knows is me and Dorian and Ronnie , I own his head and he can't move on
I exposed him as an idiot and beat him with his hero , he wishes he would have just accepted that truce because he wouldn't have got the dirty beaten he's gotten for a long time , he thinks he can post his way out and it's failed
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Does it mean it's accurate? NO but his thoughts on the subject render yours , Hulksters , Neos and anyone else MOOT
But some points to ponder , Ronnie NEVER beat Dorian , Dorian always beat Ronnie there is very good reason why Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him because Dorian is a pure winner and beat everyone with ease Ronnie at his best ( 98/01 ) didn't bring anything to the table that Dorian couldn't handle
Does it mean it's accurate? NO but his thoughts on the subject render yours , Hulksters , Neos and anyone else MOOT
Fair enough, but you can't be 100% sure if he truly meant it or was just being humble.
Ronnie at his best ( 98/01 ) didn't bring anything to the table that Dorian couldn't handle
I have to disagree. Dorian beat him when he wasn't even close to his best, a 98/01 Ronnie would push Dorian to the limit and much likely beat him.
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Fair enough, but you can't be 100% sure if he truly meant it or was just being humble.
I have to disagree. Dorian beat him when he wasn't even close to his best, a 98/01 Ronnie would push Dorian to the limit and much likely beat him.
Fair enough, but you can't be 100% sure if he truly meant it or was just being humble.
bullshit I can't , he elaborates on why Dorian would win
I have to disagree. Dorian beat him when he wasn't even close to his best, a 98/01 Ronnie would push Dorian to the limit and much likely beat him.
wasn't even close? he beat him in 97 that was on year away from his best , your position is false Dorian is to complete , to balanced , to dense & dry and to big at his best Ronnie 01/98 is to light , to imbalanced , his conditioning is inferior and his posing sucks , he may get close but Dorian would beat him
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bullshit I can't , he elaborates on why Dorian would win
wasn't even close? he beat him in 97 that was on year away from his best , your position is false Dorian is to complete , to balanced , to dense & dry and to big at his best Ronnie 01/98 is to light , to imbalanced , his conditioning is inferior and his posing sucks , he may get close but Dorian would beat him
bullshit I can't , he elaborates on why Dorian would win
What did he say?
wasn't even close? he beat him in 97 that was on year away from his best , your position is false Dorian is to complete , to balanced , to dense & dry and to big at his best Ronnie 01/98 is to light , to imbalanced , his conditioning is inferior and his posing sucks , he may get close but Dorian would beat him
Its not like Ronnie came 2nd to Dorian in 97. He was 7th right?
You're not taking into consideration that Ronnie went from placing below 6-7 competitors to beating them all by far. The improvements he made were so great that he beat Shawn, Levrone, Flex, Dillet, Priest, etc. Guys he wasn't able to beat before.
1 year of difference or not, the placings speak for themselves.
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And don't forget Dorian said Ronnie would probably beat him and then added "I don't know". :D
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What did he say?
Its not like Ronnie came 2nd to Dorian in 97. He was 7th right?
You're not taking into consideration that Ronnie went from placing below 6-7 competitors to beating them all by far. The improvements he made were so great that he beat Shawn, Levrone, Flex, Dillet, Priest, etc. Guys he wasn't able to beat before.
1 year of difference or not, the placings speak for themselves.
He said Dorian had a big physique and he was hard touching on his obvious advantage in density
It doesn't matter where he came , you said he wasn't close to his best in fact he was and Dorian at his worse beat Ronnie nevermind an injury free Dorian
Its not like Ronnie came 2nd to Dorian in 97. He was 7th right?
You're not taking into consideration that Ronnie went from placing below 6-7 competitors to beating them all by far. The improvements he made were so great that he beat Shawn, Levrone, Flex, Dillet, Priest, etc. Guys he wasn't able to beat before.
1 year of difference or not, the placings speak for themselves
do you realize he beat a lot of those guys before he ever won the Olympia he beat Flex in 96 beat beat Kevin in 97 , he beat Dillett as well do you follow the sport?
And don't forget Dorian said Ronnie would probably beat him and then added "I don't know".
he said " I guess I don't know " ;) not definitive like Ronnie who said " I don't think so I know so " ;)
he also said he had better balance & proportion and he had better density & dryness , we all know he has better posing & presentation what else is there? muscular bulk lol Ronnie's advantage in that wouldn't compensate for being way behind in all other aspects and that's how contests work
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Hulkster clearly lost the battle. Someone should tell him to get the fuck out of here like his good old mate (the bra wearing) Pumpster had to a few months ago.
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Hulkster clearly lost the battle. Someone should tell him to get the fuck out of here like his good old mate (the bra wearing) Pumpster had to a few months ago.
Hulkster has been done for a LONG time , he thinks if he continues to post on the subject that will somehow save him , Ronnie's been consistent , Dorian is better case closed.
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wasn't even close? he beat him in 97 that was on year away from his best , your position is fals
ND says this is close to ronnie's best (1997):
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Hulkster clearly lost the battle. Someone should tell him to get the fuck out of here like his good old mate (the bra wearing) Pumpster had to a few months ago.
ironically enough, you pussied out of the truce thread long ago.
I kicked your ass so bad in that thread you won't even go near it.
just as well, the discussion got much better after you left.
its nice to debate with people that not only understand english, but can think critically as well.
two things you have never been able to do.
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ND says this is close to ronnie's best (1997):
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
he's being destroyed by cormier, clearly NOT his best
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this is why Ronnie went from getting beat by charles clairmonte and porter cotrell (ie when dorian was beating him) to becoming the man with the most professional wins in history (when dorian could not even come close):
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LOL ;D
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this is why Ronnie went from getting beat by charles clairmonte and porter cotrell (ie when dorian was beating him) to becoming the man with the most professional wins in history (when dorian could not even come close):
This is when Ronnie was beating Flex Wheeler , Kevin Levrone , Paul Dllett , Nasser El Sonbaty , Vince Taylor , Chris Cormier , Lee Priest , oppppsssss forgot about that huh? no you didn't you purposely omitted that which you have a habit of because you full of shit
wow Ronnie won more contests than Dorian , he also lost more a hell of a lot more :) Ronnie only managed to win 40% of the contests he entered , Dorian almost 90% ;D
but as usual this is all subterfuge ( which I enjoy correcting you on ) it doesn't change the fact that YOU lost and Ronnie after he started winning Olympia stated clearly that Dorian would beat him.
Thanks for playing dumbass ;D
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He said Dorian had a big physique and he was hard touching on his obvious advantage in density
It doesn't matter where he came , you said he wasn't close to his best in fact he was and Dorian at his worse beat Ronnie nevermind an injury free Dorian
do you realize he beat a lot of those guys before he ever won the Olympia he beat Flex in 96 beat beat Kevin in 97 , he beat Dillett as well do you follow the sport?
he said " I guess I don't know " ;) not definitive like Ronnie who said " I don't think so I know so " ;)
he also said he had better balance & proportion and he had better density & dryness , we all know he has better posing & presentation what else is there? muscular bulk lol Ronnie's advantage in that wouldn't compensate for being way behind in all other aspects and that's how contests work
He said Dorian had a big physique and he was hard touching on his obvious advantage in density
It doesn't matter where he came , you said he wasn't close to his best in fact he was and Dorian at his worse beat Ronnie nevermind an injury free Dorian
Interesting, I didn't know about that part of the quote.
He was close to his best in 97 despite coming in at 7th place at the Olympia and then 1st in 98 at his best? Something is not right with your thinking there.
do you realize he beat a lot of those guys before he ever won the Olympia he beat Flex in 96 beat beat Kevin in 97 , he beat Dillett as well do you follow the sport?
Of course, but Flex in 96 was completely off and the other guys weren't as good as at the O.
he also said he had better balance & proportion and he had better density & dryness , we all know he has better posing & presentation what else is there? muscular bulk lol Ronnie's advantage in that wouldn't compensate for being way behind in all other aspects and that's how contests work
Dorian said that, but Dorian doesn't decide who wins a contest.
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Interesting, I didn't know about that part of the quote.
He was close to his best in 97 despite coming in at 7th place at the Olympia and then 1st in 98 at his best? Something is not right with your thinking there.
Of course, but Flex in 96 was completely off and the other guys weren't as good as at the O.
Dorian said that, but Dorian doesn't decide who wins a contest.
Interesting, I didn't know about that part of the quote.
you should I posted it dozens of times.
He was close to his best in 97 despite coming in at 7th place at the Olympia and then 1st in 98 at his best? Something is not right with your thinking there.
You're only fixating on the Olympia and missing the whole point , he beat Cormier , Levrone , Priest , Dillett and Taylor in 1997 forgetting that? or just didn't know it , Hulkster always claims ' well everyone was beating Ronnie ' and Ronnie was beating everyone as well the thing Ronnie and all them guys have in common is NONE of them beat Dorian and just because Ronnie started defeating them more often doesn't mean he could beat Dorian
Of course, but Flex in 96 was completely off and the other guys weren't as good as at the O.
wrong he actually wasn't completely off that was the thing , was Flex the same as the 93 ASC? NO but he wasn't that off
Dorian said that, but Dorian doesn't decide who wins a contest.
actually he does he's an IFBB judge ;)
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How did you get Hulkster's screensaver?
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you should I posted it dozens of times.
You're only fixating on the Olympia and missing the whole point , he beat Cormier , Levrone , Priest , Dillett and Taylor in 1997 forgetting that? or just didn't know it , Hulkster always claims ' well everyone was beating Ronnie ' and Ronnie was beating everyone as well the thing Ronnie and all them guys have in common is NONE of them beat Dorian and just because Ronnie started defeating them more often doesn't mean he could beat Dorian
wrong he actually wasn't completely off that was the thing , was Flex the same as the 93 ASC? NO but he wasn't that off
actually he does he's an IFBB judge ;)
You're only fixating on the Olympia and missing the whole point , he beat Cormier , Levrone , Priest , Dillett and Taylor in 1997 forgetting that? or just didn't know it , Hulkster always claims ' well everyone was beating Ronnie ' and Ronnie was beating everyone as well the thing Ronnie and all them guys have in common is NONE of them beat Dorian and just because Ronnie started defeating them more often doesn't mean he could beat Dorian
Ok, here is a question: Do you think Ronnie would've won the 98 O had he come in his 97 form? Would've he even made top 6?
actually he does he's an IFBB judge ;)
Great, so Dorian (an IFBB judge) thinks Ronnie could beat him. :)
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Ok, here is a question: Do you think Ronnie would've won the 98 O had he come in his 97 form? Would've he even made top 6?
Great, so Dorian (an IFBB judge) thinks Ronnie could beat him. :)
Ok, here is a question: Do you think Ronnie would've won the 98 O had he come in his 97 form? Would've he even made top 6?
you still don't get it? stop fixating on the 97 Olympia , Ronnie beat the same guys he beat when he was Mr Olympia , before he was Mr Olympia.
Great, so Dorian (an IFBB judge) thinks Ronnie could beat him. :)
he never said that , that's you drawing your own conclusions , no matter how many times you type it he still says I don't know ;) and one judge doesn't judge whole contests ;)
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion , density & dryness , what else is there? posing I don't think anyone will argue Ronnie is a better poser , muscular bulk? depends on the year Dorian has em there too , you can pick & choose what fits your point of view but in the scheme of things Dorian was anything but certain , Ronnie on the other hand was very certain ;)
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To further make Hulkster look like a retard , he always likes to claim when guys like Porter & Clairmonte were beating Ronnie before he was Ronnie , well here is few guys that Ronnie beat , before he was Ronnie
Flex Wheeler
Nasser El Sonbaty
Gunter Schlierkamp
Milos Sarcev
Claude Groulx
Kevin Levrone
Chris Cormier
Lee Priest
Charles Clairmonte
Jean Pierre Fux
Michael Francois
Aaron Baker
Mike Matarazzo
Roland Cziurlock
Don Long
Sonny Schmidt
Paul Dillett
looks an awful lot like the list of guys be beat after he became Ronnie
they all have something in common NONE of them could beat Dorian either ;)
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To further make Hulkster look like a retard , he always likes to claim when guys like Porter & Clairmonte were beating Ronnie before he was Ronnie , well here is few guys that Ronnie beat , before he was Ronnie
Flex Wheeler
Nasser El Sonbaty
Gunter Schlierkamp
Milos Sarcev
Claude Groulx
Kevin Levrone
Chris Cormier
Lee Priest
Charles Clairmonte
Jean Pierre Fux
Michael Francois
Aaron Baker
Mike Matarazzo
Roland Cziurlock
Don Long
Sonny Schmidt
Paul Dillett
looks an awful lot like the list of guys be beat after he became Ronnie
they all have something in common NONE of them could beat Dorian either ;)
if you're saying that ronnie was just as good in and before 97 that he was in 98+ you're an idiot
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if you're saying that ronnie was just as good in and before 97 that he was in 98+ you're an idiot
Where exactly did I type that? ???
Ronnie was good enough to beat a LOT of the exact same people he beat before he became Mr Olympia
his best Olympia showing was 1998 , was he that good before then? NO was he some scrub who never won anything? NO
Where did Ronnie improve the most from 97 to 98? conditioning here is Ronnie 1997 looks an awful look like 98 sans the great conditioning doesn't he?
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but what ND fails to understand, and this is because he has a newbie's knowledge of the sport ::), is that at the Olympia level, 10% better conditioning and a bit more size can mean the difference between 9th and 1st..
He was close to his best in 97 despite coming in at 7th place at the Olympia and then 1st in 98 at his best? Something is not right with your thinking there.
when has something EVER been right with ND's thinking? ???
if you're saying that ronnie was just as good in and before 97 that he was in 98+ you're an idiot
Where exactly did I type that?
the reason everyone is calling you on this is that you are implying it in all your latest posts..
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Where exactly did I type that? ???
Ronnie was good enough to beat a LOT of the exact same people he beat before he became Mr Olympia
So, if there is no improvement, then he won the next 8 sandows by accident, that is, at the fault of his competitors coming in sub par, for nearly a decade. It was a critical era to capitalize on.
You really can't argue that. If you do, you then admit to a better Coleman which Dorian didn't face.
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as always, ND gets trapped by his own fucked up logic and his efforts to make dorian seem better when he really wasn't.
typical.
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can you imagine what would have happened had ronnie stepped onstage looking like he did at his peak in 1997, well, lets just say it would have been hilarious:
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but what ND fails to understand, and this is because he has a newbie's knowledge of the sport ::), is that at the Olympia level, 10% better conditioning and a bit more size can mean the difference between 9th and 1st..
when has something EVER been right with ND's thinking? ???
the reason everyone is calling you on this is that you are implying it in all your latest posts..
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hit the nail on the head
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he will deny it as usual, just as he denies Ronnie's direct allusions of politics in his quotes (esp. the "heyday" comment vs dorian, arnold and haney).
ND has never understood how to interpret english.
not yet anyway.
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but what ND fails to understand, and this is because he has a newbie's knowledge of the sport ::), is that at the Olympia level, 10% better conditioning and a bit more size can mean the difference between 9th and 1st..
when has something EVER been right with ND's thinking? ???
the reason everyone is calling you on this is that you are implying it in all your latest posts..
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but what ND fails to understand, and this is because he has a newbie's knowledge of the sport ::), is that at the Olympia level, 10% better conditioning and a bit more size can mean the difference between 9th and 1st..
He didn't add ANY size in 98 in fact he was heavier in 97 albeit not as conditioned , you know shit as usual.
when has something EVER been right with ND's thinking? ???
the reason everyone is calling you on this is that you are implying it in all your latest posts..
I didn't imply anything , it's morons like you who draw your own conclusions , I said outright his best Olympia was 1998 and the only real ingredient he was missing was conditioning which he nailed in 98
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So, if there is no improvement, then he won the next 8 sandows by accident, that is, at the fault of his competitors coming in sub par, for nearly a decade. It was a critical era to capitalize on.
You really can't argue that. If you do, you then admit to a better Coleman which Dorian didn't face.
Lots of people with reading comprehension problems I said the main area he improved on was CONDITIONING , with the improved conditioning he came into his own , he was already 255lbs in 1997 , with all the attributes he had in 1998 sans the great conditioning , he was already an established pro winning and beating the biggest names in the sport , improved conditioning would not be enough to beat Dorian
I'm not blaming Ronnie for his sub-par competition either , he can only beat who shows up
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he will deny it as usual, just as he denies Ronnie's direct allusions of politics in his quotes (esp. the "heyday" comment vs dorian, arnold and haney).
ND has never understood how to interpret english.
not yet anyway.
I never implied he was just as good or made no improvements , it's you guys with the obvious comprehension problems you drew your own conclusions then tried to pin it on me and when I said find the post as usual you guys had to amend your statements to I was ' implying ' hahahahahaha
You keep making excuses for Ronnie and trying to read into what he said and guess and elaborate on what he really meant , bottom line Hulkster , Ronnie said at least twice he could NOT beat Dorian and explained why , this ended anything you can type.
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can you imagine what would have happened had ronnie stepped onstage looking like he did at his peak in 1997, well, lets just say it would have been hilarious:
His peak at 1999 ;)
Ronnie at his peak 1998 or 2001 would get beat by Dorian 1993/1995 bigger , harder , drier , better balanced , Ronnie 1999 would look soggy next to Yates ;)
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Ronnie 1998 is Ronnie 1997 completely dried out.
He made no improvements from 1997 to 1998 other than conditioning. he didn't improve his balance issues or his proportion issues , he didn't add any extra muscle in fact he came in supertight lighter , his calves didn't improve , his posing didn't improve , looked fantastic and deserved to beat Flex but that doesn't change the reality of the situation
Ronnie at 249 lbs with improved conditioning would be left for dead by Dorian 1993/1995 same with Ronnie 1999
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I never implied he was just as good or made no improvements
Yes you did imply:
well here is few guys that Ronnie beat , before he was Ronnie
Flex Wheeler
Nasser El Sonbaty
Gunter Schlierkamp
Milos Sarcev
Claude Groulx
Kevin Levrone
Chris Cormier
Lee Priest
Charles Clairmonte
Jean Pierre Fux
Michael Francois
Aaron Baker
Mike Matarazzo
Roland Cziurlock
Don Long
Sonny Schmidt
Paul Dillett
looks an awful lot like the list of guys be beat after he became Ronnie
Lots of people with reading comprehension problems I said the main area he improved on was CONDITIONING , with the improved conditioning he came into his own , he was already 255lbs in 1997 , with all the attributes he had in 1998 sans the great conditioning , he was already an established pro winning and beating the biggest names in the sport , improved conditioning would not be enough to beat Dorian
OK good. He did improve. Read you clear now.
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Yes you did imply:
OK good. He did improve. Read you clear now.
Hulkster likes to use the lame excuse that when Dorian was beating Ronnie guys like Porter & Clairmonete were beating him too and he was NO WHERE NEAR his best , when in fact Ronnie was beating all of these guys before he ever won a Sandow , and just because he improved his conditioning doesn't mean he would beat Dorian and the difference is NONE of them beat Dorian and Ronnie admitted that he wouldn't even after he won the Sandow
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Hulkster likes to use the lame excuse that when Dorian was beating Ronnie guys like Porter & Clairmonete were beating him too and he was NO WHERE NEAR his best , when in fact Ronnie was beating all of these guys before he ever won a Sandow , and just because he improved his conditioning doesn't mean he would beat Dorian and the difference is NONE of them beat Dorian and Ronnie admitted that he wouldn't even after he won the Sandow
You bring up a good point. He did beat top names prior 1998. 98 was still a jump in improvement though, I mean conditioning.
As far as Ronnie admitting to or not admitting to beating Dorian, I think all what was on his mind was winning the sandow. He was pretty ecstatic about it. Fast forward a few years and he seemed to expect it, so I think he may have changed his tune.
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You bring up a good point. He did beat top names prior 1998. 98 was still a jump in improvement though, I mean conditioning.
As far as Ronnie admitting to or not admitting to beating Dorian, I think all what was on his mind was winning the sandow. He was pretty ecstatic about it. Fast forward a few years and he seemed to expect it, so I think he may have changed his tune.
Actually no , the Special Ed quote was from 2008
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He made no improvements from 1997 to 1998 other than conditioning. he didn't improve his balance issues or his proportion issues , he didn't add any extra muscle in fact he came in supertight lighter , his calves didn't improve , his posing didn't improve , looked fantastic and deserved to beat Flex but that doesn't change the reality of the situation
not correct at all.
his arms and quads increased noticably in size from 97 to 98, all the visuals confirm this, as does ronnie's 1999 flex interview talking about how he was gaining about 5 pounds of muscle per year.
your mistake is that you are assuming that the erroneous printed weight of 255 pounds in 1997 is correct.
it is not.
anyone can see this.
http://muscletime.com/gallery/pro-bodybuilding/olympia-contest/1997-olympia/photos-by-raymond-cassar/1997-mr-olympia-162
http://muscletime.com/gallery/pro-bodybuilding/olympia-contest/1998-olympia/contest/1998-mr-olympia-229
see for yourself.
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here's how it should be:
ND and Hulkster both predict the top 10 after pre-judging
the person who comes the closest to the actual placings shall be deemed more knowledgeable about the judging criteria
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LOL I am barely following the olympia this year.
ever since guys like Jay and Dex won, it really speaks volumes about the quality of the physiques these days.
Ronnie was the last good Mr. O. (so far)
sorry, but its true.
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you still don't get it? stop fixating on the 97 Olympia , Ronnie beat the same guys he beat when he was Mr Olympia , before he was Mr Olympia.
he never said that , that's you drawing your own conclusions , no matter how many times you type it he still says I don't know ;) and one judge doesn't judge whole contests ;)
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion , density & dryness , what else is there? posing I don't think anyone will argue Ronnie is a better poser , muscular bulk? depends on the year Dorian has em there too , you can pick & choose what fits your point of view but in the scheme of things Dorian was anything but certain , Ronnie on the other hand was very certain ;)
you still don't get it? stop fixating on the 97 Olympia , Ronnie beat the same guys he beat when he was Mr Olympia , before he was Mr Olympia.
You're the one that brought the 97 O into the argument in the first place when you said Dorian beat Ronnie in 97, just a year away from his best. I'm not the one fixating on it, fact is Ronnie improved a lot after 1997. His conditioning was top notch in 1998 and despite what his weight was, he looked a bit bigger on stage. You know that bb its not so much about how much weight you carry, but how you carry it.
he never said that , that's you drawing your own conclusions , no matter how many times you type it he still says I don't know ;) and one judge doesn't judge whole contests ;)
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion , density & dryness , what else is there? posing I don't think anyone will argue Ronnie is a better poser , muscular bulk? depends on the year Dorian has em there too , you can pick & choose what fits your point of view but in the scheme of things Dorian was anything but certain , Ronnie on the other hand was very certain ;)
Do you realize that when Dorian was asked the question on who would win between him and Ronnie, he was a lot less certain than you are?
You are always arguing on why Dorian would beat Ronnie for a fact as far as judging criteria, but Dorian himself is not sure.
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion and conditioning, but he is still not sure on who would win. That means what? Of course that Ronnie has advantages of his own that make it very close.
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Important info here. Big business.
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not correct at all.
his arms and quads increased noticably in size from 97 to 98, all the visuals confirm this, as does ronnie's 1999 flex interview talking about how he was gaining about 5 pounds of muscle per year.
your mistake is that you are assuming that the erroneous printed weight of 255 pounds in 1997 is correct.
it is not.
anyone can see this.
see for yourself.
yawn what else are you gonna say? now his weight is erroneous ::) give me a break prove it was erroneous don't type it
Ronnie 1997 was 255lbs and soft hence why he dropped down to 249 for the Olympia and he was super dried out and right up your retarded alley to think his arms & quads got bigger by dropping weight ::)
and in one breathe you have the balls to claim Flex is wrong by stating his weight at 255 in 97 and then try and use Flex as proof he gained 5lbs a year typical hypocrite
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here's how it should be:
ND and Hulkster both predict the top 10 after pre-judging
the person who comes the closest to the actual placings shall be deemed more knowledgeable about the judging criteria
Hulkster already pussied out ;) and get serious Hulkster never knew the criteria until I posted it , he never knew that all rounds are physique rounds , he didn't even know what density & dryness were , he actually thinks Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian , a guy who claimed 1994 was close and 2001 Ronnie ' dominated ' by losing the entire prejudging LMFAO
and this above all else , he actually typed that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler , he came to this conclusion ! Dorian in the most dominate Olympia win in the history of the contest , he was so far and ahead of everyone he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round and he claimed Dorian lost , and you actually just typed who is more knowledgeable about the judging criteria BAWWWWWHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAAHA you're almost as dumb as he is.
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LOL I am barely following the olympia this year.
ever since guys like Jay and Dex won, it really speaks volumes about the quality of the physiques these days.
Ronnie was the last good Mr. O. (so far)
sorry, but its true.
No shit all you do is type about me , Ronnie & Dorian it's all you know. and after your comment about Dorian losing in 93 shows you don't know much.
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Hulkster already pussied out ;) and get serious Hulkster never knew the criteria until I posted it , he never knew that all rounds are physique rounds , he didn't even know what density & dryness were , he actually thinks Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian , a guy who claimed 1994 was close and 2001 Ronnie ' dominated ' by losing the entire prejudging LMFAO
and this above all else , he actually typed that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler , he came to this conclusion ! Dorian in the most dominate Olympia win in the history of the contest , he was so far and ahead of everyone he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round and he claimed Dorian lost , and you actually just typed who is more knowledgeable about the judging criteria BAWWWWWHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAAHA you're almost as dumb as he is.
Serious question: How big a role does this debate play in your life? Is it in your head throughout the day, at work, social events, etc.? Both you guys, seriously.
Is it fun or just an obsession?
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Hulkster already pussied out ;) and get serious Hulkster never knew the criteria until I posted it , he never knew that all rounds are physique rounds , he didn't even know what density & dryness were , he actually thinks Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian , a guy who claimed 1994 was close and 2001 Ronnie ' dominated ' by losing the entire prejudging LMFAO
and this above all else , he actually typed that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler , he came to this conclusion ! Dorian in the most dominate Olympia win in the history of the contest , he was so far and ahead of everyone he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round and he claimed Dorian lost , and you actually just typed who is more knowledgeable about the judging criteria BAWWWWWHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAAHA you're almost as dumb as he is.
Hey ND.......why do you always have to be a real dick about things and jump all over people who just post their thoughts ???
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You're the one that brought the 97 O into the argument in the first place when you said Dorian beat Ronnie in 97, just a year away from his best. I'm not the one fixating on it, fact is Ronnie improved a lot after 1997. His conditioning was top notch in 1998 and despite what his weight was, he looked a bit bigger on stage. You know that bb its not so much about how much weight you carry, but how you carry it.
Do you realize that when Dorian was asked the question on who would win between him and Ronnie, he was a lot less certain than you are?
You are always arguing on why Dorian would beat Ronnie for a fact as far as judging criteria, but Dorian himself is not sure.
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion and conditioning, but he is still not sure on who would win. That means what? Of course that Ronnie has advantaged of his own that make it very close.
You're the one that brought the 97 O into the argument in the first place when you said Dorian beat Ronnie in 97, just a year away from his best. I'm not the one fixating on it, fact is Ronnie improved a lot after 1997. His conditioning was top notch in 1998 and despite what his weight was, he looked a bit bigger on stage. You know that bb its not so much about how much weight you carry, but how you carry it.
yeah I did as proof that he wasn't that far away from his best as Hulkster likes people to believe , he likes to bring up the fact that when Dorian was beating him , guys like Porter Cottrell and Charles Clairmonte were ( 1994 ) when he was 228lbs which isn't the case , Ronnie improved in 1997 to 1998 in conditioning and nothing else.
Do you realize that when Dorian was asked the question on who would win between him and Ronnie, he was a lot less certain than you are?
You are always arguing on why Dorian would beat Ronnie for a fact as far as judging criteria, but Dorian himself is not sure.
Dorian said he has Ronnie on balance & proportion and conditioning, but he is still not sure on who would win. That means what? Of course that Ronnie has advantaged of his own that make it very close.
he was a lot less certain than me? ever think that he hasn't given it as much thought as I have? and was asked the question off the top of his head? Dorian isn't sure? Ronnie is sure ;)
are you mistaken Dorian's reluctance to give an answer as self doubt? Dorian is a winning machine the guy won almost 90% of the contests he entered , statistically Dorian would be the odds on favorite to win , Ronnie never once faced anyone like Dorian , anyone who can match him on size , back and have better balance & conditioning and a better poser to boot
98 Ronnie just barely beat Flex and this is Ronnie at his best Olympia showing EVER Dorian trounced Flex when he was as close to his prime as he could get , Flex never looked as good as 1993 and Dorian utterly crushed him , Ronnie 98 could not beat Dorian he just couldn't
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Serious question: How big a role does this debate play in your life? Is it in your head throughout the day, at work, social events, etc.? Both you guys, seriously.
Is it fun or just an obsession?
This is Hulkster's obsession not mine , I created the Truce thread to let it go , he couldn't and I kicked his ass and beat him using his own hero and made him look like a complete moron then I walked away from that thread , and Hulkster being the obsessed troll he is kept following me around trying to equal the score and rehashing the same shit
He just proved my point , he doesn't keep track of the current scene all he knows is Dorian , me and Ronnie , it's all he posts about , don't believe me check his posts , I'm looking forward to the Olympia this weekend I think it's exciting this year , he doesn't care it's not Ronnie
I had fun with the truce thread for a while I let it go , he can't , Ronnie crushed him when he said he couldn't beat Dorian and he still hasn't recovered.
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Hey ND.......why do you always have to be a real dick about things and jump all over people who just post their thoughts ???
That's the GetBig way ;D
When Hulkster types these insanely retarded thoughts they are just begging to be beat down with a sledgehammer , if he took the truce I would have spared him , he's stuck on stupid now , for the most part I leave him alone , every once in a while I like to remind him of how stupid he is.
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yeah I did as proof that he wasn't that far away from his best as Hulkster likes people to believe , he likes to bring up the fact that when Dorian was beating him , guys like Porter Cottrell and Charles Clairmonte were ( 1994 ) when he was 228lbs which isn't the case , Ronnie improved in 1997 to 1998 in conditioning and nothing else.
he was a lot less certain than me? ever think that he hasn't given it as much thought as I have? and was asked the question off the top of his head? Dorian isn't sure? Ronnie is sure ;)
are you mistaken Dorian's reluctance to give an answer as self doubt? Dorian is a winning machine the guy won almost 90% of the contests he entered , statistically Dorian would be the odds on favorite to win , Ronnie never once faced anyone like Dorian , anyone who can match him on size , back and have better balance & conditioning and a better poser to boot
98 Ronnie just barely beat Flex and this is Ronnie at his best Olympia showing EVER Dorian trounced Flex when he was as close to his prime as he could get , Flex never looked as good as 1993 and Dorian utterly crushed him , Ronnie 98 could not beat Dorian he just couldn't
he was a lot less certain than me? ever think that he hasn't given it as much thought as I have? and was asked the question off the top of his head? Dorian isn't sure? Ronnie is sure ;)
are you mistaken Dorian's reluctance to give an answer as self doubt?
Well, just like I'm assuming Ronnie was being humble you are assuming Dorian didn't give it much thought or was reluctant to give an answer. Maybe he honestly wasn't sure who would win.
Dorian is a winning machine the guy won almost 90% of the contests he entered , statistically Dorian would be the odds on favorite to win , Ronnie never once faced anyone like Dorian , anyone who can match him on size , back and have better balance & conditioning and a better poser to boot
The same is true in Dorian's case, he never faced someone like Ronnie. He never faced someone with an equally developed back, never faced someone close to his size with great conditioning, etc.
98 Ronnie just barely beat Flex and this is Ronnie at his best Olympia showing EVER Dorian trounced Flex when he was as close to his prime as he could get , Flex never looked as good as 1993 and Dorian utterly crushed him , Ronnie 98 could not beat Dorian he just couldn't
What about Ronnie 2001 AC?
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Well, just like I'm assuming Ronnie was being humble you are assuming Dorian didn't give it much thought or was reluctant to give an answer. Maybe he honestly wasn't sure who would win.
The same is true in Dorian's case, he never faced someone like Ronnie. He never faced someone with an equally developed back, never faced someone close to his size with great conditioning, etc.
What about Ronnie 2001 AC?
Well, just like I'm assuming Ronnie was being humble you are assuming Dorian didn't give it much thought or was reluctant to give an answer. Maybe he honestly wasn't sure who would win.
I'm not assuming , his response is proof he didn't give it much thought either way. Ronnie elaborated on why he thought Dorian would win
The same is true in Dorian's case, he never faced someone like Ronnie. He never faced someone with an equally developed back, never faced someone close to his size with great conditioning, etc.
What about Ronnie 2001 AC?
No the same isn't true in Dorian's case , he faced Ronnie many times and beat him , Dorian has him on balance & proportion , density & dryness and posing , and depending on the year size , you think an equally developed back and being close to his size are advantages?
2001 ASC may be a test for Dorian the general consensus is this was the best Ronnie ever looked , but I still think he's to light and not as conditioned as Dorian and Yates will always had these advantages but I think this would be his best shot
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Hulkster already pussied out and get serious Hulkster never knew the criteria until I posted it , he never knew that all rounds are physique rounds , he didn't even know what density & dryness were , he actually thinks Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian , a guy who claimed 1994 was close and 2001 Ronnie ' dominated ' by losing the entire prejudging LMFAO
and this above all else , he actually typed that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler , he came to this conclusion ! Dorian in the most dominate Olympia win in the history of the contest , he was so far and ahead of everyone he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round and he claimed Dorian lost , and you actually just typed who is more knowledgeable about the judging criteria BAWWWWWHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAAHA you're almost as dumb as he is.
lol, you need to stop living in the past. Whenever someone mentions the judging criteria, you always bring up stuff that happened like 3 yrs ago. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the criteria by now b/c you've posted it hundreds of times. This is bodybuilding for f*ck sakes. It's not theoretical physics
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seriously, threads like this have given me a new appreciation for dorian
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/dorian3_front_lat_spread.jpg)
pc background. yes he was granite-like and had 3rd thickness but I still think ronnie just brought along a new standard,
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Hulkster lost the debate the day he claimed that Ronnie had more detailed calves than Dorian. That was the icing on the cake. I literally laughed out loud when he wrote that. I posted on the truce thread from page 6 to page 1,400+, but when Hulkster said that I stopped posting because I realized I was arguing with a raging retard who has no clue what he's talking about. More detailed calves than Dorian...priceless! ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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lol, you need to stop living in the past. Whenever someone mentions the judging criteria, you always bring up stuff that happened like 3 yrs ago. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the criteria by now b/c you've posted it hundreds of times. This is bodybuilding for f*ck sakes. It's not theoretical physics
It proves my point , he didn't know what it was until I posted it , he was the idiot who was stratching his head wondering how Dorian can win a contest with straight firsts with a torn bicep I explained this to him , for you to posts let's see who is more knowledgeable is laughable especially when it comes to him , he actually claimed Dorian lost the 93 Olympia and Ronnie dominated the 01 and you asking who is more knowledgeable ? LMAO he didn't get it then and still doesn't get it now , nothing's changed.
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Hey ND.......why do you always have to be a real dick about things and jump all over people who just post their thoughts ???
I can answer this one LOL
because he is a dick who gets totally offended when people shoot down his crazy fucked up logic.
and it drives him nuts.
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Hulkster lost the debate the day he claimed that Ronnie had more detailed calves than Dorian. That was the icing on the cake. I literally laughed out loud when he wrote that. I posted on the truce thread from page 6 to page 1,400+, but when Hulkster said that I stopped posting because I realized I was arguing with a raging retard who has no clue what he's talking about. More detailed calves than Dorian...priceless! ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
the fucking scary part is he actually believed it :-X then when I constantly keep throwing it in his face he started looking even more dumb as usual and actually tried to say that was a ' test ' for us to prove him wrong and it took us 5 pages to do it LMFAO hehehehehehe like anyone would actually need to prove him wrong on that of all things , that's like claiming we need to prove a Ferrari Enzo FXX is faster around The Ring than a Smart car ::)
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Hulkster lost the debate the day he claimed that Ronnie had more detailed calves than Dorian. That was the icing on the cake. I literally laughed out loud when he wrote that
of course you did.
I was laughing as I posted it. it was nothing more than a test that was failed by ND beautifully. problem is, he was too damn stupid to realize this. typical..
if you go back to the thread, you will see it was done simply to prove a point and it worked beautifully.
the point was that ND and Co. run away from all visuals when engaging in the debate.
I posted that as a test.
and do you know what? ND failed miserably.
it took him 8 pages of verbal bullshit to finally post some concrete evidence refuting the fact.
exactly my point and it taught a great lesson.
thanks for playing. you all fell into my trap miserably.
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I can answer this one LOL
because he is a dick who gets totally offended when people shoot down his crazy fucked up logic.
and it drives him nuts.
like Dorian lost in 93? and Ronnie dominated in 01? hahahahahahahaha and Ronnie has more detailed calves and 94 was extremely close contest and 1998 wasn't hahahahaha like Shawn Ray beats Dorian Yates in a back pose ;D
I don't get offended by anyone's opinion but the shit you type just begs to be bashed over the head ;)
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the fucking scary part is he actually believed it :-X then when I constantly keep throwing it in his face he started looking even more dumb as usual and actually tried to say that was a ' test ' for us to prove him wrong and it took us 5 pages to do it LMFAO hehehehehehe like anyone would actually need to prove him wrong on that of all things , that's like claiming we need to prove a Ferrari Enzo FXX is faster around The Ring than a Smart car ::)
lol you failed badly and you know it.
classic ND bullshit that runs from visuals.
classic. we all know how dumb you are so we can easily set up traps for you to fall into.
works every time.
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of course you did.
I was laughing as I posted it. it was nothing more than a test that was failed by ND beautifully. problem is, he was too damn stupid to realize this. typical..
if you go back to the thread, you will see it was done simply to prove a point and it worked beautifully.
the point was that ND and Co. run away from all visuals when engaging in the debate.
I posted that as a test.
and do you know what? ND failed miserably.
it took him 8 pages of verbal bullshit to finally post some concrete evidence refuting the fact.
exactly my point and it taught a great lesson.
thanks for playing. you all fell into my trap miserably.
LMFAO thanks for proving my point
someone needs to prove Dorian has more detailed calves than Ronnie ;D just when you think Hulkster can't get any dumber he does not disappoint
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sigh. you still missed the whole point of the excercise.
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maybe one day you will get it..but somehow I doubt it.
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lol you failed badly and you know it.
classic ND bullshit that runs from visuals.
classic. we all know how dumb you are so we can easily set up traps for you to fall into.
works every time.
You notice I have NEVER EVER once said you were smart ;) with a good reason.
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sigh. you still missed the whole point of the excercise.
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maybe one day you will get it..but somehow I doubt it.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yet you decided to let us know it was all just an exercise years AFTER THE FACT years of me throwing that monstrosity in your face in thread after thread and people saying " he really claimed that " lol after exposing how stupid you are you had to come up with something and like your original claim YOU FAIL ;D
Hulkster this is what happens when you put NO thought what so ever into your posts ;)
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How do you know if/when you won?
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Another well thought Hulkster post ;D
Ronnie 99 was more ' grainy ' than Dorian ever was HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he had more detailed calves and he was more grainy too HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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How do you know if/when you won?
When Ronnie said he couldn't beat Dorian for the second time , this put the nail in Hulkster's coffin and sent him spiraling down into the trolling fag he is
I beat Hulkster using his own hero and that was it. ;D
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When Ronnie said he couldn't beat Dorian for the second time , this put the nail in Hulkster's coffin and sent him spiraling down into the trolling fag he is
I beat Hulkster using his own hero and that was it. ;D
I see.
Well then it's settled.
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How do you know if/when you won?
It's the same EXACT shit thrown back and forth for six years and a hundred thousand posts....no one gives an inch...EVER....but according to ND...he's winning ::) ::)
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It's the same EXACT shit thrown back and forth for six years and a hundred thousand posts....no one gives an inch...EVER....but according to ND...he's winning ::) ::)
Hulkster, what do you say about all this?
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It's the same EXACT shit thrown back and forth for six years and a hundred thousand posts....no one gives an inch...EVER....but according to ND...he's winning ::) ::)
I won when I offered a truce , I was the bigger man willing to let shit slide , he couldn't handle anyone claiming Dorian should even be mentioned in the same breathe as Ronnie and couldn't let it go , the icing on the cake is when his own hero conceded he couldn't do it ;D
I can let this shit go he still can't so yes I've been winning , I've won and still am. ;)
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I won when I offered a truce , I was the bigger man willing to let shit slide , he couldn't handle anyone claiming Dorian should even be mentioned in the same breathe as Ronnie and couldn't let it go , the icing on the cake is when his own hero conceded he couldn't do it ;D
I can let this shit go he still can't so yes I've been winning , I've won and still am. ;)
There appears to be some disagreement, ND.
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I see.
Well then it's settled.
yeah it's been settled but sore losers can't accept defeat , can you blame him? he invested his whole Getbig career on this subject and fell flat on his face and in the end it was all for nothing , like his hero he couldn't beat me like Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian ;D
I made Hulkster the laughing stock of Getbig , embarrassed him into oblivion , threw all his retarded statements in his face and final insult was Ronnie stating Dorian would beat him again , like he did before many times.
in chess they call that Check Mate
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yeah it's been settled but sore losers can't accept defeat , can you blame him? he invested his whole Getbig career on this subject and fell flat on his face and in the end it was all for nothing , like his hero he couldn't beat me like Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian ;D
I made Hulkster the laughing stock of Getbig , embarrassed him into oblivion , threw all his retarded statements in his face and final insult was Ronnie stating Dorian would beat him again , like he did before many times.
in chess they call that Check Mate
So why the arguing? Seems you won fair and square.
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So why the arguing? Seems you won fair and square.
There is NO argument , I don't tell him exactly why Dorian would beat Ronnie anymore I proved my points. now I just throw all the stupid things in his face and keep posting the quotes of Ronnie conceding defeat to Dorian ;D
no argument just me bitch-slapping Hulkster yet again.
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There is NO argument , I don't tell him exactly why Dorian would beat Ronnie anymore I proved my points. now I just throw all the stupid things in his face and keep posting the quotes of Ronnie conceding defeat to Dorian ;D
no argument just me bitch-slapping Hulkster yet again.
Doesn't make sense, though. Why doesn't he just admit it and move on?
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let's see, hulkster's visual evidence, vs ND's verbal evidence...
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Doesn't make sense, though. Why doesn't he just admit it and move on?
he just admitted he doesn't care about bodybuilding , just Ronnie it's all he has it's all he knows.
I'm looking forward to the Olympia . there will be a bunch of Olympia threads this weekend and Hulkster will post a picture from 1999 and claim " Ronnie at his prime would beat him NO PROBLEM " :-\
poor kid
P.I.P Hulkster :'(
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let's see, hulkster's visual evidence, vs ND's verbal evidence...
Oh you mean the blatant photoshopped pictures he tried to pass of as ' visual evidence '? as real proof that Ronnie is better LMFAO you mean the ones Kevin Horton and a professional graphic artist had to let him know where worked , you mean that visual evidence? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and then he called them both liars and then I busted his buddy who made them for him on the lie he never used the program
the visual evidence of Ronnie having more detailed calves and being more grainy than Dorian ever was? you mean that visual evidence? LMFAO
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you mean like these
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Yr96kWY30lCtSM:http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/238/rco1999.jpg&t=1)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-082-training/image005.jpg)
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you mean like these
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Yr96kWY30lCtSM:http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/238/rco1999.jpg&t=1)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-082-training/image005.jpg)
You can tell that was made by a Coleman fan I hate to break it to you kid , Dorian's waist isn't as small as Ronnie so that tells us the scale is heavily in Ronnie's favor but alas that doesn't change the fact that Dorian is utterly destroying Ronnie in that pic , nevermind this one ;)
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You can tell that was made by a Coleman fan I hate to break it to you kid , Dorian's waist isn't as small as Ronnie so that tells us the scale is heavily in Ronnie's favor but alas that doesn't change the fact that Dorian is utterly destroying Ronnie in that pic
no he's not
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no he's not
says you I beg to differ ;)
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(http://www.fisicoculturismo.org/fotos/albums/ronnie-coleman/fotos_ronnie_coleman_279.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348947.0;attach=383973;image)
lets flip the scale
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well shit that didn't work
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well shit that didn't work
;D
bare in mind Dorian is 269lbs in that pic and Ronnie is 249lbs
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You notice I have NEVER EVER once said you were smart ;) with a good reason.
yeah, notice how the quote was from 2007.
you have been dumb as rocks ever since..
you know why?
because all the 99 screenshots and vids were made available and ever since then you haven't known what to do.
videos like the prejudging from 99 that show ronnie at a level so far above dorian its not even funny: and at the same bodyweight too.
the 99 olympia visuals on the web made ND stupid.
because from that point on, he knew he lost and has tried his best to come up with arguments against and he just ends up looking stupid.
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a clip from the contest that ruined ND's chances of ever winning the truce thread:
he knew it was over from the second all this 99 stuff was posted, so he split.
real life (ronnie's 99 form) shits all over dorian.
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yeah, notice how the quote was from 2007.
you have been dumb as rocks ever since..
you know why?
because all the 99 screenshots and vids were made available and ever since then you haven't known what to do.
videos like the prejudging from 99 that show ronnie at a level so far above dorian its not even funny: and at the same bodyweight too.
the 99 olympia visuals on the web made ND stupid.
because from that point on, he knew he lost and has tried his best to come up with arguments against and he just ends up looking stupid.
meltdown ;) thanks for proving my point about your obsession , I will never call you smart ever because you're an idiot.
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a clip from the contest that ruined ND's chances of ever winning the truce thread:
he knew it was over from the second all this 99 stuff was posted, so he split.
real life (ronnie's 99 form) shits all over dorian.
I always laugh when you try and prove 99 was his best , it's laughable no one other than you and a couple of like minded morons think 99 is his best
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actually tons of people do.
just read the comments on youtube, getbig and all the other places on the internet where the 99 vids/caps are posted.
oh, and peter mcgough (your hero ::)) feels 99>98 (as per his famous article) which shoots down your position that 98 was his best.
so what the fuck do you know?
even your own hero and savior doesn't think 98 was his best.
and you rely on his quotes day in and day out.
which is ironic considering that even he feels 99 was better than 98.