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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Howard on September 27, 2010, 07:50:36 AM
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I know that getbig has morphed into a board with a lot of silly, often funny stuff, (sometimes)related to BB.
*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
I don't like some sports, like NASCAR or golf, but I don't waste my time posting about it on a golf or NASCAR forum.
Making a clever , fun , joke has always been a cool, unique part of getbig. However, even after the the biggest contest weekend , the vast majority of posts are silly and insulting when it comes to the Olympia.
It is a free and open forum, and if most of the regulars feel like that fine, have at it. In my opinion, anyone who is hell bent on just making fun of the Olympia is no fan of BB. Good luck.
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I'm not making fun of the Olympia. Hell, if your a fan of bodybuilding, that's your super bowl I guess. I'm not a fan of bodybuilding and I couldn't tell you much about anyone involved in the sport. All the info I know is garnered here on GB, so....I really know nothing about it. If you enjoy it, so be it. Who gives a shit of what others say :-\
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Howard, you seem like a nice guy (a little creepy too) but I swear you start the lamest threads in the entire internets.
If you like the professional competitive side of bodybuilding then great for you. A lot of us are turned off by the sleeziness and politics of it all.
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I know that getbig has morphed into a board with a lot of silly, often funny stuff, (sometimes)related to BB.
*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
I don't like some sports, like NASCAR or golf, but I don't waste my time posting about it on a golf or NASCAR forum.
Making a clever , fun , joke has always been a cool, unique part of getbig.
However, even after the the biggest contest weekend , the vast majority of posts are silly and insulting when it comes to the Olympia.
It is a free and open forum, and if most of the regulars feel like that fine, have at it.
In my opinion, anyone who is hell bent on just making fun of the Olympia is no fan of BB.
Good luck.
x2!! Seems most here don't even train! But so quick to make fun of others? and PRO's even? I watched the webcast with a female whom has never been to a bb show or knew anything about it! I asked afterwards her thoughts, she really didn't like how the female bbers looked! But she respect the work and effort that went into these bodies! RESPECT!
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This question has been asked over and over again for years now, but still no answer from the guys making fun of bodybuilding.
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x2!! Seems most here don't even train! But so quick to make fun of others? and PRO's even? I watched the webcast with a female whom has never been to a bb show or knew anything about it! I asked afterwards her thoughts, she really didn't like how the female bbers looked! But she respect the work and effort that went into these bodies! RESPECT!
i'm going to take a wild guess and say you are a pro, just logged on, and thought you'd be worshiped on this board like MD.
(http://www.hardbody.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dina.jpg)
here's a pro board goddess:
bob chick gets respect because he puts up with this BS and has a thick skin.
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I love it. While there are things to make fun of often, I still love it and have asked the same question of these people and have never received answer.
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x2!! Seems most here don't even train! But so quick to make fun of others? and PRO's even? I watched the webcast with a female whom has never been to a bb show or knew anything about it! I asked afterwards her thoughts, she really didn't like how the female bbers looked! But she respect the work and effort that went into these bodies! RESPECT!
Is the webcast stored anywhere and available for viewing? Link?
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you mean people who post here actually work out?
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LOL Howard, whats your question???
If I learned anything this weekend while posting on GETBIG during the webcast, people here do actually care about bodybuilding, regardless of how much they make fun of it and insult it!
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This question has been asked over and over again for years now, but still no answer from the guys making fun of bodybuilding.
Those dudes putting bb down are just ATTENTION WHORES.
Other possibility is that they are disappointed because they've realized at some point, they are not making it in bb. Now trying to convince everybody that they don't actually give a shit about such a gay sport...
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Those dudes putting bb down are just ATTENTION WHORES.
Other possibility is that they are disappointed because they've realized at some point, they are not making it in bb. Now trying to convince everybody that they don't actually give a shit about such a gay sport...
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I know that getbig has morphed into a board with a lot of silly, often funny stuff, (sometimes)related to BB.
*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
I don't like some sports, like NASCAR or golf, but I don't waste my time posting about it on a golf or NASCAR forum.
Making a clever , fun , joke has always been a cool, unique part of getbig.
However, even after the the biggest contest weekend , the vast majority of posts are silly and insulting when it comes to the Olympia.
It is a free and open forum, and if most of the regulars feel like that fine, have at it.
In my opinion, anyone who is hell bent on just making fun of the Olympia is no fan of BB.
Good luck.
seriously, there is nothing "Gay" about enjoying Pro bodybuilding or attend a show. I guess there are too many F.aggs on here who always think that bodybuilding is for the Homos to enjoy and nothing else.....that's so fucking ridiculous.
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i'm going to take a wild guess and say you are a pro, just logged on, and thought you'd be worshiped on this board like MD.
(http://www.hardbody.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dina.jpg)
here's a pro board goddess:
bob chick gets respect because he puts up with this BS and has a thick skin.
No I'm not a pro, not even close! But I respect pro's in any sport! A professional has the work ethic, put in the blood sweat and tears, dedication, sacrifice towards their sport! Most of their fan base aspire to do the same. A pro is a pro for a reason you should just RESPECT the work it takes to make it to that level.
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Is the webcast stored anywhere and available for viewing? Link?
http://www.bodybuilding.com
Go into the site and click on Olympia web cast replays
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seriously, there is nothing "Gay" about enjoying Pro bodybuilding or attend a show. I guess there are too many F.aggs on here who always think that bodybuilding is for the Homos to enjoy and nothing else.....that's so fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, I just don't get why we have so many homophobic based posts. A few are funny, but I start to wonder???
If some guy is that paranoid about being a homo, well, maybe they are ???? ???
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I love it. While there are things to make fun of often, I still love it and have asked the same question of these people and have never received answer.
I hate to judge without knowing someone, but based on what is posted they seem pretty insecure .
If they read and post on a BB forum they must have some interest in BB. Perhaps, someone said something and it made them feel awkward.????
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Those dudes putting bb down are just ATTENTION WHORES.
Other possibility is that they are disappointed because they've realized at some point, they are not making it in bb. Now trying to convince everybody that they don't actually give a shit about such a gay sport...
So true. One of the moderators of this board is a good example.
And now some of them are MMA tough guys saying how their new "heroes" could beat any bodybuilder down (not that it isn't true, but its pointless)
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True story. A few years ago a friend of mine was doing the state show. The discussion came up at a family gathering and a friend of a family member tried to embarass me by saying something along the lines of "oh, you like to go watch big oiled up muscle guys posing?" with one of those look around the room for attention move....my response was "I never thought of it that way, but makes me wonder about you." everybody laughed and he slinked away.
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So true. One of the moderators of this board is a good example.
And now some of them are MMA tough guys saying how their new "heroes" could beat any bodybuilder down (not that it isn't true, but its pointless)
Not sure about who is an attention whore? I guess we all can be guilty of that at times ;)
Yeah, the MMA champ fighting an IFBB pro is retarded as it is two different sports.
They never say the MMA fighter should challenge to BB to a posedown do they?
It is as silly as saying something like Peyton Manning is a great QB, but I would like to see how he does in a Hockey rink in the NHL. wtf?
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True story. A few years ago a friend of mine was doing the state show. The discussion came up at a family gathering and a friend of a family member tried to embarass me by saying something along the lines of "oh, you like to go watch big oiled up muscle guys posing?" with one of those look around the room for attention move....my response was "I never thought of it that way, but makes me wonder about you." everybody laughed and he slinked away.
Nice 8), I'm gonna use that.
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LOL Howard, whats your question???
If I learned anything this weekend while posting on GETBIG during the webcast, people here do actually care about bodybuilding, regardless of how much they make fun of it and insult it!
I think the ifbb a joke but Ive made just as many posts about the sport as I have Lundgren.
I cant stand steriods for one. Im all about fitness not endarngering my health for some smchoe fest. Id much rather talk about lundgren, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold, and people on lower dosages.
My point is I love bodybuilding, but I cant stand the modern IFBB. I dont get this zero sum game Idea of the sport. Either I love the Olympia or I dont belong here. ::)
Besides all that bodybuilding is borning to talk about. Even the makers of pumping iron admit this. I post here because it gets me excited about going to the gym while all my friends would rather talk about getting drunk or stoned.
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True story. A few years ago a friend of mine was doing the state show. The discussion came up at a family gathering and a friend of a family member tried to embarass me by saying something along the lines of "oh, you like to go watch big oiled up muscle guys posing?" with one of those look around the room for attention move....my response was "I never thought of it that way, but makes me wonder about you." everybody laughed and he slinked away.
As you get older you learn to avoid taking any silly negative crap very serious .
I used to enter bench meets , power meets, and even summer track meets ( sprinting) to "prove" to the naysayers , that I was fast and strong. In the end they still didn't like or understand BB and didn't care what I did.
It only held me back from more progress in pure BB.
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Not sure about who is an attention whore? I guess we all can be guilty of that at times ;)
Yeah, the MMA champ fighting an IFBB pro is retarded as it is two different sports.
They never say the MMA fighter should challenge to BB to a posedown do they?
It is as silly as saying something like Peyton Manning is a great QB, but I would like to see how he does in a Hockey rink in the NHL. wtf?
I didn't mean he's an example of an attention whore. I meant he's an example of someone who didn't make it in bb as good as he would've wanted, so now makes fun of bodybuilding/bodybuilders whenever he gets the chance. There are actually a lot of examples of this here.
And yes, the comparison of MMA fighters with bodybuilers is one of the dumbest things ever.
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Nice 8), I'm gonna use that.
Feel free to my friend.... 8)
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Kinda like the circus, I guess. It's entertaining, sure, but you're still gonna tease the bearded lady for not shaving.
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Why would you give a fuck what anyone else thinks about the way you live your life?! If you like bodybuilding because you're gay, good for you. If you like bodybuilding because your straight, good for you!
Life is a short fucking time on this planet. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, do what makes you feel good and be happy.
Dont take life so serious, it aint no how permanent - Mark Twain
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Why would you give a fuck what anyone else thinks about the way you live your life?! If you like bodybuilding because you're gay, good for you. If you like bodybuilding because your straight, good for you!
Life is a short fucking time on this planet. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, do what makes you feel good and be happy.
Dont take life so serious, it aint no how permanent - Mark Twain
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I think the ifbb a joke but Ive made just as many posts about the sport as I have Lundgren.
I cant stand steriods for one. Im all about fitness not endarngering my health for some smchoe fest. Id much rather talk about lundgren, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold, and people on lower dosages.
My point is I love bodybuilding, but I cant stand the modern IFBB. I dont get this zero sum game Idea of the sport. Either I love the Olympia or I dont belong here. ::)
Besides all that bodybuilding is borning to talk about. Even the makers of pumping iron admit this. I post here because it gets me excited about going to the gym while all my friends would rather talk about getting drunk or stoned.
Good answer and great post, thanks!
I know what you mean about the extreme use of steroids vs more moderate doses of the Pumping Iron era. BUT, I enjoy BB enough, that one issue like drugs, isn't going to keep me away from being a fan.
Being a gym lifter and casual fan is fine. I don't drink or get high, but wouldn't be negative around those that do.
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*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
Howard,
Who said anything about following the sport?
I think you misunderstand what's going on here. If by following the sport, you mean keeping up with the humiliating personal details of certain pros (the case of Kai versus grapefruit), then yes, some of us "follow" the sport. If you're truly wondering whether any of us follow the actual sport, as in keep up to date with rankings and season schedules, I think you will find very little of us on that list.
This place has evolved from being just a bodybuilding site. If you just want a site about bodybuilding in the strictest sense, then maybe you should check out bodybuilding.com
Personally, I come to this site to laugh, debate random topics, look at WYHI threads and spend the time. I've been to sites that center on legal & political commentary, healthcare issues and even downright comedy sites, but this place takes the prize. Even if you never care to follow bodybuilding, you can come to this site on any given day and find 2-3 threads that will entertain you immensely and have you recalling nonsense you read on a couple of topics on random occasions throughout your day generating laughter during strange times (board meetings, when in front of a client etc).
In case you're wondering Howard, I work out for the purpose of staying healthy and for just plain old fun. I used to work out with many pros in the NYC circuit, but I really didn't like the nonsense they were ALL involved in (Drug dealings, G4P, recreational drug use to name a few). Aside from that, I really don't find the IFBB to be that impressive as an organization and I think AMI should truly step their game up and work on the overall production of their top sellers (Like the Mr. Olympia). The production alone on these shows resembles that of garbage you would have easily seen during the early 80's.
So, do any of us really follow the sport? Not really.
Do most of us enjoy working out every now and then? Sure.
Are any of us seriously considering competing and making a life out of this (with the exception of maybe 3 guys)? Of course not.
Why do we come to this site? We come here, because it's the most entertaining site on the internet.
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Nice 8), I'm gonna use that.
before going to the 08 olympia one of my friends tried the gay shit with me so i asked him "you like mma right"? he said yes. so i said "so you like sweaty mean rolling around a ring with boy shorts on trying to submit each other"? he never said shit again.
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Howard,
Who said anything about following the sport?
I think you misunderstand what's going on here. If by following the sport, you mean keeping up with the humiliating personal details of certain pros (the case of Kai versus grapefruit), then yes, some of us "follow" the sport. If you're truly wondering whether any of us follow the actual sport, as in keep up to date with rankings and season schedules, I think you will find very little of us on that list.
This place has evolved from being just a bodybuilding site. If you just want a site about bodybuilding in the strictest sense, then maybe you should check out bodybuilding.com
Personally, I come to this site to laugh, debate random topics, look at WYHI threads and spend the time. I've been to sites that center on legal & political commentary, healthcare issues and even downright comedy sites, but this place takes the prize. Even if you never care to follow bodybuilding, you can come to this site on any given day and find 2-3 threads that will entertain you immensely and have you recalling nonsense you read on a couple of topics on random occasions throughout your day generating laughter during strange times (board meetings, when in front of a client etc).
In case you're wondering Howard, I work out for the purpose of staying healthy and for just plain old fun. I used to work out with many pros in the NYC circuit, but I really didn't like the nonsense they were ALL involved in (Drug dealings, G4P, recreational drug use to name a few). Aside from that, I really don't find the IFBB to be that impressive as an organization and I think AMI should truly step their game up and work on the overall production of their top sellers (Like the Mr. Olympia). The production alone on these shows resembles that of garbage you would have easily seen during the early 80's.
So, do any of us really follow the sport? Not really.
Do most of us enjoy working out every now and then? Sure.
Are any of us seriously considering competing and making a life out of this (with the exception of maybe 3 guys)? Of course not.
Why do we come to this site? We come here, because it's the most entertaining site on the internet.
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Good post!
I too like the entertaining and clever jokes here at GETBIG. I guess being a long time judge and competed in over 30 shows makes me a bit more "serious" about bodybuilding.
Having some fun with good natured humor is one thing , but being mean spirited and endless ripping on BB is silly and juvenille.
I guess, what makes me different , is that I really have a passion for BB as an actual sport. I also care about the overall welfare of the BB pros I admire.
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when people fail at something, they usually get "it's gay anyway" complex
not like I'm a success tho
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Can't speak for the "getbig bunch" but this has been a slow and painful death with some minor recoveries since Arnold hung up his pouch.
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Why would you give a fuck what anyone else thinks about the way you live your life?! If you like bodybuilding because you're gay, good for you. If you like bodybuilding because your straight, good for you!
Life is a short fucking time on this planet. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, do what makes you feel good and be happy.
Dont take life so serious, it aint no how permanent - Mark Twain
As I get older I tend to get more of the "kiss my ass attitude" on things I like.
I enjoyed BB for over 30 yrs and will keep enjoying it until I croak.
If someone else thinks it is dumb, well fine, one less person to try and buy a ticket which might help me get mine cheaper!
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True story. A few years ago a friend of mine was doing the state show. The discussion came up at a family gathering and a friend of a family member tried to embarass me by saying something along the lines of "oh, you like to go watch big oiled up muscle guys posing?" with one of those look around the room for attention move....my response was "I never thought of it that way, but makes me wonder about you." everybody laughed and he slinked away.
moms got owned ;D
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As I get older I tend to get more of the "kiss my ass attitude" on things I like.
I enjoyed BB for over 30 yrs and will keep enjoying it until I croak.
If someone else thinks it is dumb, well fine, one less person to try and buy a ticket which might help me get mine cheaper!
Any of it bother you?
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It definately makes me wonder sometimes too - and eventually, the trolling gets old, and they wind up in the Time Out area, and stay there.
I enjoy the entertainment, the jokes, the humor, the friends and people on here, the stories, the gossip and opinions.
But people flat out who don't like bodybuilding - jeez. Time to go.
Problem is some people who like to train, workout, and bodybuilding - don't necessarily like the 'pro' bodybuilding side of the sport, so it gets trick.
As for the Olympia Expo, I was amazed at how many people this time actually came up to me and said hello. From England, from Canada, from Mexico, from Spain, and a ton of people from the US. And it was very cool! I want to apoligize to some which I didnt have enough time to do more than a hello, as I had meetings, and shooting backstage, etc.
Favorite story is that a guy who did laugh and enjoy the boards decided this year to actually train and compete, and while, he did not place higher than 4th, was inspired.
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howard please explain to me how any judge can rank branch above dexter ???
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i'm going to take a wild guess and say you are a pro, just logged on, and thought you'd be worshiped on this board like MD.
(http://www.hardbody.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dina.jpg)
here's a pro board goddess:
bob chick gets respect because he puts up with this BS and has a thick skin.
she is honestly one of the most beautiful women i've ever seen.
has a great personality too - from the vids.
i wonder if she likes pandas ;D
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I know that getbig has morphed into a board with a lot of silly, often funny stuff, (sometimes)related to BB.
*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
I don't like some sports, like NASCAR or golf, but I don't waste my time posting about it on a golf or NASCAR forum.
Making a clever , fun , joke has always been a cool, unique part of getbig. However, even after the the biggest contest weekend , the vast majority of posts are silly and insulting when it comes to the Olympia.
It is a free and open forum, and if most of the regulars feel like that fine, have at it. In my opinion, anyone who is hell bent on just making fun of the Olympia is no fan of BB. Good luck.
serious question- why do you post here when you know the tone of this forum?
Seriously, I think Muscle Mayhem is more up your alley
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howard please explain to me how any judge can rank branch above dexter ???
same ones who put this
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/qIrI3VslmlI/0.jpg)
above this
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs188.snc1/6300_126762491888_48163666888_2347101_361093_n.jpg)
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serious question- why do you post here when you know the tone of this forum?
Seriously, I think Muscle Mayhem is more up your alley
Now thats an honest answer. The even funnier part is there are legit parts of the forum dedicated to training,positive natural, drugs, Olympia etc. But instead of peopel posting there they come here.
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serious question- why do you post here when you know the tone of this forum?
Seriously, I think Muscle Mayhem is more up your alley
I do post a lot over on MD and enjoy that forum. Most post at MD take the sport more serious as I do, and post under their actual name.
I'll put a more detailed getbig answer under Ron's post.
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I do post a lot over on MD and enjoy that forum. Most post at MD take the sport more serious as I do, and post under their actual name.
I'll put a more detailed getbig answer under Ron's post.
i can respect that
actually, we do have a forum that you could post a more detailed answer and it would be better received than on the G and O
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It definately makes me wonder sometimes too - and eventually, the trolling gets old, and they wind up in the Time Out area, and stay there.
I enjoy the entertainment, the jokes, the humor, the friends and people on here, the stories, the gossip and opinions.
But people flat out who don't like bodybuilding - jeez. Time to go.
Problem is some people who like to train, workout, and bodybuilding - don't necessarily like the 'pro' bodybuilding side of the sport, so it gets trick.
As for the Olympia Expo, I was amazed at how many people this time actually came up to me and said hello. From England, from Canada, from Mexico, from Spain, and a ton of people from the US. And it was very cool! I want to apoligize to some which I didnt have enough time to do more than a hello, as I had meetings, and shooting backstage, etc.
Favorite story is that a guy who did laugh and enjoy the boards decided this year to actually train and compete, and while, he did not place higher than 4th, was inspired.
I was was on get big when it first got rolling over 12-13 yrs ago and stayed the course as you know. I got a kick out of meeting you Ron for the first time out in Colorado at Shawn Ray's show in 2006. Why getbig, with all the silly crap and not just on the "serious" boards you may ask? Ron and some others like Issac Hinds have met me and know that I love to cut up and goof around.
MOST take the atmosphere in BB too serious for my taste. You can train hard and love the sport of BB and still have a ton of fun. I also think it is important to RESPECT the pros as bodybuilders if you are a real fan of the sport.
Meeting Issac and doing that silly interview 4 yrs ago at the Jr USA was a lot of fun for me.
Going to events and meeting a few of the get big board members never gets old. Granted you only meet for a few minutes at just expos or contest, but that makes it special. For me it is kinda like a dysfunctional extended family reunion.
Interaction with actual pros like Bob chick is a cool thing here at GETBIG. I also like to try and push buttons and see who I can get a rise out of here on getbig. It never ceases to amaze me how the most silly thread can blow up.
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i can respect that
actually, we do have a forum that you could post a more detailed answer and it would be better received than on the G and O
I have been on THIS G and O forum for so long it feels like home. Plus, Bob Chick and most of the regulars I respect or enjoy posting with are on here. I don't mind sifting thru some "floatsom" as Basille might say to get to the good stuff that cracks me up.
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I have been on THIS G and O forum for so long it feels like home.
that's good but your postings have a better fit in the "who gives a shit" subforum of Getbig
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I have been on THIS G and O forum for so long it feels like home. Plus, Bob Chick and most of the regulars I respect or enjoy posting with are on here. I don't mind sifting thru some "floatsom" as Basille might say to get to the good stuff that cracks me up.
Yet you dont even know its called slin, fuck i dont even know what its does, but i know it really means insulin.
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Yet you dont even know its called slin, fuck i dont even know what its does, but i know it really means insulin.
LOL, I can tell the basic biochemistry about how it works but didn't know the slang term slin was used for it...go figure.
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I know that getbig has morphed into a board with a lot of silly, often funny stuff, (sometimes)related to BB.
*But seriously, if you really think the Olympia is a gaywad festival and have little respect for the pros, why do you follow the sport?*
I would say a sport is defined as an athletic event where points can be objectively obtained for more than one competing body in direct competition, within set parameters. Although by this definition, table tennis would be a "sport". But anyway, I still do not consider bodybuilding to be a sport.
As for why people who seem to hate bodybuilding and hate bodybuilders post on here, the reason is because they work out and lift weights and where else are their message boards relating to that? You pretty much have to subscribe to a bodybuilding board to get the kind of information related to lifting weights. But lifting weights and taking muscle building to the extreme is not what most of those people want, hence solving the getbig paradox as to how seemingly interested fans can be such haters at the same time: They are fans of lifting weights to build muscle, not necessarily fans of bodybuilding in the extreme sense of the pro ranks.
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Nothing wrong with eating right, training and keeping healthy but why do guys need to prance about in a thong for multiple hours over multiple nights to be judged, doesnt take more than a few seconds or so to see who has more mass/more aesthetic/conditioned etc.
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HOWARD perhaps you missed my genuine question (3 times now in various threads) about a bodybuilding topic.
please explain from a judging perspective how branch can finish above dexter ?
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HOWARD perhaps you missed my genuine question (3 times now in various threads) about a bodybuilding topic.
please explain from a judging perspective how branch can finish above dexter ?
It was close this yr, no question. My modern pro BB standards , sheer size and freaky mass are the trump card.
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It was close this yr, no question. My modern pro BB standards , sheer size and freaky mass are the trump card.
at the expense of every other factor ?
well then you should be fired immediately, as you are clearly not an impartial judge.
this is the problem with the IFBB right here - even the so called expert judges have no fucking clue how to judge a contest. ::)
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at the expense of every other factor ?
well then you should be fired immediately, as you are clearly not an impartial judge.
this is the problem with the IFBB right here - even the so called expert judges have no fucking clue how to judge a contest. ::)
Jim Rockell was pretty clear that while size is NOT the only factor it is a big factor and often the difference.
It is what it is ;)
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Jim Rockell was pretty clear that while size is NOT the only factor it is a big factor and often the difference.
It is what it is ;)
if that was true then frank zane should never have won an olympia.
the judging criteria is set in stone. mass does not out rank any other factor.
unless all other factors are equal.
all other factors between dex and branch were not equal, not in the slightest.
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if that was true then frank zane should never have won an olympia.
the judging criteria is set in stone. mass does not out rank any other factor.
unless all other factors are equal.
all other factors between dex and branch were not equal, not in the slightest.
I agree with you but neither of us in an IFBB judge.
I was in a contest in 1986. It was the Golds Classic in Fayetteville, NC.
This was during the midst oif the Lee Haney era and the head judge told us the following at the athlete check in briefing.
'The national office of the NPC ( and IFBB pros) has decided that cuts and shape alone are NOT the winning factor. We will consider muscle size as a major factor in picking winners.'
I guess they didn't want another Zane to be the top dog.