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I'm almost done with his book, and thought I'd remind everyone here where the sport once stood!
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great natural athlete
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great natural athlete
He was on creatine >:( >:( >:( >:( he is not natural
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He was on creatine >:( >:( >:( >:( he is not natural
He was on more than that! Although for the 85 Olympia he said in his book he did drop the dosage as much as he possibly could!
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I'm almost done with his book, and thought I'd remind everyone here where the sport once stood!
recap and cliff notes?
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I never knew there was also men's fitness olympia included in the past ???
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I'm almost done with his book, and thought I'd remind everyone here where the sport once stood!
LOL at 'Sport'.... :D
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LOL at 'Sport'.... :D
Pageant is more apt imo.
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nobody wants this pompous ass representing them
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He does sound a little arrogant in that interview. However, I think he was purposely trying to stray from the "dumb muscle-head" stereotype. Regardless, I think his physique appealed and would still appeal to a much broader fan base than today's bodybuilders who appeal to a smaller, more hardcore base.
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I never knew there was also men's fitness olympia included in the past ???
It's a shame that you have have no appreciation for a truly aesthetic physique. I was a judge for many years with the IFBB and always felt that Paris was under appreciated by both fans and judges. If he had one flaw it was usually that he seldom peaked at contest time.
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female schmoing
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It's a shame that you have have no appreciation for a truly aesthetic physique. I was a judge for many years with the IFBB and always felt that Paris was under appreciated by both fans and judges. If he had one flaw it was usually that he seldom peaked at contest time.
What year do you think was his best condition? I'd probably say 1988, but that is judging strictly from the vids and pics that I have seen.
Of note is that he was voted as the most aesthetic bodybuilder of all time in a 2006 or 2007 Flex Magazine poll/article.
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He does sound a little arrogant in that interview. However, I think he was purposely trying to stray from the "dumb muscle-head" stereotype. Regardless, I think his physique appealed and would still appeal to a much broader fan base than today's bodybuilders who appeal to a smaller, more hardcore base.
imagine how much punani he would get if he was straight :o :D
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He was on more than that! Although for the 85 Olympia he said in his book he did drop the dosage as much as he possibly could!
Does he mentions doses at all in the book? I know that he didn't like the way the sport was heading. I Wonder what somone with his genetics, which were obviously great, was using.
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He was on more than that! Although for the 85 Olympia he said in his book he did drop the dosage as much as he possibly could!
Ohh realy? ;D creatine came out in 1993 EAS so i was joking 8)
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nobody wants this pompous ass representing them
I hate bodybuilders who use gear bitching about using gear or lamenting about how it's ruining the sport , if that's the way you feel don't be part of the problem.
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I hate bodybuilders who use gear bitching about using gear or lamenting about how it's ruining the sport , if that's the way you feel don't be part of the problem.
I think he was bitching about the increase in the amount of gear that needed to be used to stay competitive, not necessarily using "small" amounts.
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What year do you think was his best condition? I'd probably say 1988, but that is judging strictly from the vids and pics that I have seen.
Of note is that he was voted as the most aesthetic bodybuilder of all time in a 2006 or 2007 Flex Magazine poll/article.
You are correct 1988 was his best condition and still overlooked. The trend at that time was bigger was better and still continues today
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I think he was bitching about the increase in the amount of gear that needed to be used to stay competitive, not necessarily using "small" amounts.
Lol its pretty sad were reliant on a gay man to tell us how awful these guys were starting to look and its the truth. Than again I have no interest in BBing. ::)
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I'm almost done with his book, and thought I'd remind everyone here where the sport once stood!
guys who look like this should win olympia
not win barrel shaped doofuses on roids
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I hate bodybuilders who use gear bitching about using gear or lamenting about how it's ruining the sport , if that's the way you feel don't be part of the problem.
how else was he gona get on alan thicke"s show saying otherwise...
reality is those women oogling someone chemd up,,, imagines hubbys reaction while watching that...
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guys who look like this should win olympia
not win barrel shaped doofuses on roids
jitsnumai shut the fuct up.
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guys who look like this should win olympia
not win barrel shaped doofuses on roids
tough line to walk bc mr o cant get dwarfed though...
i agree with you too
although,,, big, conditioned, well put together and semi proportionate cut up and dry mass is what wins
remember when the memo re waistlines when everyone was pushin mass...
guys have to be concerned with midsection too sometimes genetic but most pros dont spend time on that bc workin everything else to get bigger
credit to jay this yr and last in most of his vids he worked abs at end wrkout... his structure like joints he cant control so,, besides the width he carries makes up bc example look at bill buchannon sometimes if waist is too thin it takes away from the power of physique, thats oldtime thinking anyways.
put bob paris up there today even with 30lbs more and it be the same, jay still out masses everyone else there and its developed mass, same with branch who what lacks in structure or aesthetic tastes makes up for in condition proved by his placing over dexter
how bout victor mrtinz, who even ronnie predicted would be mr o by now or soon, heath from now where, prob wasnt even bbn when that was said... yet vic has/had all the tools in that aesthetic pleasing look everyone favors, basically paris type with 30lbs extra and proof is hes been close, won arnolds just not o's, jay outmasses everybody, except dex one year.
thinking about it jays deserves credit for stayin close for so long and of course hes mr o now bc he was the only one that could hang with ronnie for the long haul, others came close but werent consistant.
every so often someone changes the biz in all fields, for bb recently was ronnie before him dorian arnold, etc...
we thoguh we were seein it with kai and phil but maybe it may be someone placing low now thats start takin jay on and breaking top3.
look at ronnie who had that parisesqu look with the small waist and he had cut mass good bis,,, he placed bottom,,, when he got freaky even though waistline/etc started to suffer he won
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Lol its pretty sad were reliant on a gay man to tell us how awful these guys were starting to look and its the truth. Than again I have no interest in BBing. ::)
get the fuck off a bodybuilding board then homo 8)
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I have to agree. How this man never place higher is beyond me. Some said he was small. How the hell is this "small"?
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I have to agree. How this man never place higher is beyond me. Some said he was small. How the hell is this "small"?
OUTED!
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OUTED!
No you're outed!
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No you're outed!
ohoh :P
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:D
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I have to agree. How this man never place higher is beyond me. Some said he was small. How the hell is this "small"?
If you can run you're small
(Nothing against small people, I'm small too.)
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Not true. See Kevin Levrone during his competition days race sprinter Dwain Chambers:
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If you can run walk a yard without requiring an oxygen mask you're small.
(Nothing against small people, I'm small too.)
Fixed. :)
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He does not mention doses in his book... But he does mention what he took (maybe not everything) but he talks about his first cycle on DBOL, first time he bought GH, and he talks a lot about how he really did try limiting his Gear intake and how it cost him at shows!
30 more pages to go til I'm done with the book, its ones of the best I've ever read. He talks about his life from childhood all the way to bodybuilding greatness, and the struggles he went through, living out of his car, going from job to job, encouters with suicide, encouters with Arnold, Weider, Tom Platz, lots of other top bodybuilders.
And yeah, dude would get soooo much pussy if he was straight!
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You Look GREAT Leafy Bug, good for you!!!! When are you competing again bro?
Here's my attempt, not quite as eloquent as you but whatever lol:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/classicACH.jpg)
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Best hair in bodybuilding ever
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He does not mention doses in his book... But he does mention what he took (maybe not everything) but he talks about his first cycle on DBOL, first time he bought GH, and he talks a lot about how he really did try limiting his Gear intake and how it cost him at shows!
30 more pages to go til I'm done with the book, its ones of the best I've ever read. He talks about his life from childhood all the way to bodybuilding greatness, and the struggles he went through, living out of his car, going from job to job, encouters with suicide, encouters with Arnold, Weider, Tom Platz, lots of other top bodybuilders.
And yeah, dude would get soooo much pussy if he was straight!
Which book of his are you reading? Gorilla suit?
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Which book of his are you reading? Gorilla suit?
That's the one he's reading , I picked it up on Amazon for like $5 bucks well worth it.
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Which book of his are you reading? Gorilla suit?
gabbos 8)
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nobody wants this pompous ass representing them
referring to himself in the third person is bizarre
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He absolutely hates these type of pics that projected the image he was hetero when everyone knew he wasn't Joe included
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TiqKRgLIW6Y/SwS9JWqBcxI/AAAAAAAAIm4/YRFMVTOzZY0/s1600/nekkid-fat-man-squat.JPG)
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TiqKRgLIW6Y/SwS9JWqBcxI/AAAAAAAAIm4/YRFMVTOzZY0/s1600/nekkid-fat-man-squat.JPG)
there is only one Mars
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He absolutely hates these type of pics that projected the image he was hetero when everyone knew he wasn't Joe included
Haven't seen those before..
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Dude still looks good..
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You Look GREAT Leafy Bug, good for you!!!! When are you competing again bro?
Here's my attempt, not quite as eloquent as you but whatever lol:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/classicACH.jpg)
Great pic! You will see me next year at North Americans and i will be trying to put the nail in the coffin at state.
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Didn't Bob date Linda Blair for a bit? Maybe he wasn't entirely gay ???
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Haven't seen those before..
;D
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;)
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Yep I'm reading Gorilla Suit!!! He talks about how much he hated the sexy pictures he took with women for magazines and always told Joe Weider he wants them to look more athletic than sexual!
Dude was a work horse, both in life and in bodybuilding!! He talked a lot about how its like to be at the top of the bodybuilding industry and to be successful! Was a great contrast to his earlier life when he was struggling to get by!
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6PX0VQMvplw/SyCqgEhJTZI/AAAAAAAAMX8/kjBQNL4klGs/s640/BobParis2.jpg)
(http://gaysport.tonywhelan.net/images/bob%20paris%201.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Qzd9HIsRWeA/SWsVNZD5X9I/AAAAAAAATXY/NqtwcsF98HE/s400/Bob+Paris.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/MG-BobParis10.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/bob-paris.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_g93bcGvgWBo/R5ieAtvoFNI/AAAAAAAADF0/X5ddkmG3oj8/s400/BobParis-FLX-WeiderHF-056.jpg)
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OOOH tell me more....
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/60/images/Bob_Paris_3.jpg)
(http://www.fisicoculturismo.org/fotos/albums/bob-paris/fotos_bob_paris_080.jpg)
No Homo ;D
(http://host.jwcinc.net/10193/duo%20pic1%200001.jpg)
(http://bandofthebes.typepad.com/bandofthebes/images/2007/12/14/bobparis2.jpg)
(http://www.docssports.com/prodimages/ParisBob_3.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIez1SyImkA/TGbEM5t1VCI/AAAAAAAADhs/nuKSRrGUJm4/s640/fl0607.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAhuWC0qeE/SuwLWU778jI/AAAAAAAAM30/iu4jDGy89x4/s400/bobparis21.jpg)
(http://www.ambal.ru/62244611216.jpg)
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(http://ironage.us/Ironage_Scans/paris.jpg)
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I remember buying that issue of Flex when I was a kid ;D
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I idolized Bob Paris as a high school kid. I knew I was never gonna be a Lee Haney nor a Rich Gaspari..... so I emulated Paris. I found out later he was gay and i didn't give a shit.... he was everything Bodybuilding was meant to be....
I even copied his hair style and white trunks when i was 18.......
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;D
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/robotarmforsite.jpg)
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I idolized Bob Paris as a high school kid. I knew I was never gonna be a Lee Haney nor a Rich Gaspari..... so I emulated Paris. I found out later he was gay and i didn't give a shit.... he was everything Bodybuilding was meant to be....
I even copied his hair style and white trunks when i was 18.......
...+1
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Exactly - who gives a shit if he's gay or not - Paris had a perfect physique. He was always the epitome of bodybuilding for me.
Surprisingly enough, I did see once, a comparison between him, Benfatto and Labrada - the three 'classic physiques' - and Labrada looked the most symmetrical of them all.
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Exactly - who gives a shit if he's gay or not - Paris had a perfect physique. He was always the epitome of bodybuilding for me.
Surprisingly enough, I did see once, a comparison between him, Benfatto and Labrada - the three 'classic physiques' - and Labrada looked the most symmetrical of them all.
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Lol its pretty sad were reliant on a gay man to tell us how awful these guys were starting to look and its the truth. Than again I have no interest in BBing. ::)
Interesting, can you explain that? Are gay men somehow unreliable?
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Bob Paris is probably the best looking professional bodybuilder there has, dare I say, ever been. Alongside Bob, Steeve Reeves was another amazing specimen of a man.
Also, I think Bob Paris made for an excellent representative of the "sport". Just by listening in on that interview he gave by poolside regarding steroid abuse, can any of you honestly say there is another bodybuilder, past or present, as eloquent and as classy in his overall delivery of a message?
Frankly, the size Paris displayed in 84/88 is probably as big as a man should ever get, pro bodybuilding included. Anything bigger than what Paris displayed in 88 is not just lacking any aesthetic value to it, but just downright looks strange. Paris looked amazing without clothes, with regular clothes on and while wearing a suit. Did any of you consider how pathetic these former Mr. Olympias looked during the Olympia show when they had to wear suits for the past champions presentation roundup?
Too bad this "sport" has forgotten what the true meaning of bodybuilding was meant to be, professional bodybuilders rely too heavily on the amount of drugs they inject versus the amount of weight they push or food they consume.
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Bob Paris is probably the best looking professional bodybuilder there has, dare I say, ever been. Alongside Bob, Steeve Reeves was another amazing specimen of a man.
Also, I think Bob Paris made for an excellent representative of the "sport". Just by listening in on that interview he gave by poolside regarding steroid abuse, can any of you honestly say there is another bodybuilder, past or present, as eloquent and as classy in his overall delivery of a message?
Frankly, the size Paris displayed in 84/88 is probably as big as a man should ever get, pro bodybuilding included. Anything bigger than what Paris displayed in 88 is not just lacking any aesthetic value to it, but just downright looks strange. Paris looked amazing without clothes, with regular clothes on and while wearing a suit. Did any of you consider how pathetic these former Mr. Olympias looked during the Olympia show when they had to wear suits for the past champions presentation roundup?
Too bad this "sport" has forgotten what the true meaning of bodybuilding was meant to be, professional bodybuilders rely too heavily on the amount of drugs they inject versus the amount of weight they push or food they consume.
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X10 !!!!!
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X10 !!!!!
Sadiqui, I also think Bob Chick would agree with my post if he were to be reading this thread. Old Bobby is actually a classic looking bodybuilder himself, who due to the industry's "bigger is better" bullshit has had to sacrifice his great lines to play with the big boys.
This "sport" will never, I repeat, never be taken seriously so as long as its showcase competitors all look like a bunch of circus sideshow acts seeping of steroids.
The top pros of today can't even wear normal clothes, because they look pathetic. With the exception of Chick, the vast majority of pros sound like fucking morons, barely able to put a sentence together without the mandatory "youknowwhadamean" or "uhh" in between each word or thought. Add to that the fact that pretty much all women are repulsed by their look and what do you have?
Answer: Freaks that cater to dirty, old, gay men using their pictures as stroking material.
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nobody wants this pompous ass representing them
Brutal glass of iced tea
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How tall is Bob Paris??
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Sadiqui, I also think Bob Chick would agree with my post if he were to be reading this thread. Old Bobby is actually a classic looking bodybuilder himself, who due to the industry's "bigger is better" bullshit has had to sacrifice his great lines to play with the big boys.
This "sport" will never, I repeat, never be taken seriously so as long as its showcase competitors all look like a bunch of circus sideshow acts seeping of steroids.
The top pros of today can't even wear normal clothes, because they look pathetic. With the exception of Chick, the vast majority of pros sound like fucking morons, barely able to put a sentence together without the mandatory "youknowwhadamean" or "uhh" in between each word or thought. Add to that the fact that pretty much all women are repulsed by their look and what do you have?
Answer: Freaks that cater to dirty, old, gay men using their pictures as stroking material.
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Well said..and agreed
One thing I was never willing to do, was go that route...I never wanted to go to 300 and put my health at any more risk than I already was in the brutal dehydration process....
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Well said..and agreed
One thing I was never willing to do, was go that route...I never wanted to go to 300 and put my health at any more risk than I already was in the brutal dehydration process....
I'm glad you never did. You managed to keep just the right size needed to be able to market yourself across the bodybuilding spectrum.
One thing I will say is that I hope the judges and/or heads of AMi/FLEX marketing start to realize that less is more and that keeping to that of a Bob Paris "look" is probably the best way to bring the "sport" to the masses without appearing like fucking freaks.
Anyone remember Ronnie Coleman on Jay Leno? What the fuck!?!
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Well this was disappointing!!! I finally finished Bob Paris' book, and believe it or not there are two pages missing!!! No they were not ripped out, there's definitely a printing error. I checked online and the book is 275 pages, my book (a hard cover), stops abruptly at p. 273 and that page is printed on the inside of the back cover!!! WTF!!!
Now I gotta find a way to get those last two pages!!!
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How tall is Bob Paris??
6 feet tall.
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bob is handsome guy, and anyone normal guy would die ot have his body
but he was too fucking small, here is lee haney from the same year owning him
he might have been a little bigger other years, but couldnt be by much
remember girls its still body"build"ing.......not male figure
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG6kGl1YDI)
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bob is handsome guy, and anyone normal guy would die ot have his body
but he was too fucking small, here is lee haney from the same year owning him
he might have been a little bigger other years, but couldnt be by much
remember girls its still body"build"ing.......not male figure
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG6kGl1YDI)
yes
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/paul-demayo.jpg)
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Well said..and agreed
One thing I was never willing to do, was go that route...I never wanted to go to 300 and put my health at any more risk than I already was in the brutal dehydration process....
so basically you, as the athletes representative, are in agreement with OneMoreRep's statement that "the vast majority of pros sound like fucking morons, barely able to put a sentence together without the mandatory "youknowwhadamean" or "uhh" in between each word or thought."
real classy Bob
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Paris had an amazing physique. Not the kind of physique to win the 'O but a true classic physique. he was handsome and had he been heterosexual, he would have been a pussy pulling machine as he was also articulate. But it seems nature has the way to exclude both the low and higher ends. The competition has to go on for individuals to reproduce so specimens like Paris go gay so that normal human beings can compete for pussy.
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Grant had the potential to be on par or possibly even better than Paris when I first met him. I think that was shortly after Everson did an article or was in the process of writing his story in Planet Muscle.
Why did you give it up, Grant? And have you ever regretted it?
Have you given any consideration to getting back into competitive shape and WINNING the masters? You'd definitely dominate that class and restart a new career.
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Well this was disappointing!!! I finally finished Bob Paris' book, and believe it or not there are two pages missing!!! No they were not ripped out, there's definitely a printing error. I checked online and the book is 275 pages, my book (a hard cover), stops abruptly at p. 273 and that page is printed on the inside of the back cover!!! WTF!!!
Now I gotta find a way to get those last two pages!!!
I only got 274 on my book.
continue up this mountain, I will hate some things about it, there'll be ethical dilemmas and the going won't always be smooth. I accept that. The thing that I wrapped my hopes and dreams around for so long has its dark side, but I've never known any field of endeavor that didn't.
I can move on to other things, other goals. I can even call them greener pastures. I can try and forget the past and say that part of my life is now a closed chapter, but in spite of all the aspects about this thing that bothered me , I can't escape what it did for my life.
During the past few years I successfully branched my life and career out into all sorts of new areas, and I could blow my own horn with a long list of accomplishments, but doing that would serve no purpose, other than naked self-promotion. That's not why I raise the point. I mention it for two reasons, First, my time in the sport of bodybuilding taught me I was capable of doing almost anything I set my mind and my disciplined efforts to. Second, and I think more importantly, in spite of achieving success in other aspects of my work life, not one of these accomplishments can even come close to the feeling I had when I heard emcees announce my name as a national and a world champion in my sport. To some people that will sound like an incredibly stupid statement, but to anyone who has ever been-or has ever imagined being-in a similar situation, it will make perfect sense.
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so basically you, as the athletes representative, are in agreement with OneMoreRep's statement that "the vast majority of pros sound like fucking morons, barely able to put a sentence together without the mandatory "youknowwhadamean" or "uhh" in between each word or thought."
real classy Bob
I'm sure Robert agreed with my statement pointing out how IFBB bodybuilders today should not have to keep aiming for more size versus staying at a weight that is aesthetically pleasing. This notion will allow professional bodybuilders to stay true to the meaning of bodybuilding and not become slaves to the size game while losing all of their classic lines.
I doubt he agrees with my general opinion regarding most pros (cough:Kai:cough) and their inability to put together a coherent sentence.
..youknowwhadamean?..
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I only got 274 on my book.
continue up this mountain, I will hate some things about it, there'll be ethical dilemmas and the going won't always be smooth. I accept that. The thing that I wrapped my hopes and dreams around for so long has its dark side, but I've never known any field of endeavor that didn't.
I can move on to other things, other goals. I can even call them greener pastures. I can try and forget the past and say that part of my life is now a closed chapter, but in spite of all the aspects about this thing that bothered me , I can't escape what it did for my life.
During the past few years I successfully branched my life and career out into all sorts of new areas, and I could blow my own horn with a long list of accomplishments, but doing that would serve no purpose, other than naked self-promotion. That's not why I raise the point. I mention it for two reasons, First, my time in the sport of bodybuilding taught me I was capable of doing almost anything I set my mind and my disciplined efforts to. Second, and I think more importantly, in spite of achieving success in other aspects of my work life, not one of these accomplishments can even come close to the feeling I had when I heard emcees announce my name as a national and a world champion in my sport. To some people that will sound like an incredibly stupid statement, but to anyone who has ever been-or has ever imagined being-in a similar situation, it will make perfect sense.
THANK YOU!!!!
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THANK YOU!!!!
You're welcome. :)
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Bump.
Read Gorilla Suit recently, Bob refers to one gay Mr Olympia that never came out.
Any bets?
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Bump.
Read Gorilla Suit recently, Bob refers to one gay Mr Olympia that never came out.
Any bets?
Think he means Chris Dickerson.
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I thought Chris Dickerson came out?
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Another bitter bodybuilder who thought that HIS attributes were underrated. ::)
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I thought Chris Dickerson came out?
Keep in mind the book was published in 1997,probably a long time before Chris came out.
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Think he means Chris Dickerson.
Ok, thanks, i didn't know.
It's a good book though, if only for the fact some (Ex-)IFBB pro had the balls to spill the truth about Weider and his way of making business...
I miss some dosage information though, lol.
Saying he would drop to the necessarily needed lowest dosages for the 1985 Mr Olympia doesn't mean shit, he could still mean 3g of aas.