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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
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agreed
how are you these days?
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agreed, i wish i could use them but i have no idea how to get any.
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agreed
how are you these days?
IM OK GOT SOME BAD NEWS TODAY. BEST FRIENDS SON DIED DONT KNOW THE DETAILS YET. BUT OTHER THAN THAT TRAINING AGAIN AND FEELING BETTER. GO STEROIDS GO I THINK I TAKE THEM BECAUSE WHEVER I AM ON I DONT HAVE BACK PAIN
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agreed, i wish i could use them but i have no idea how to get any.
IVE HEARD YOU CAN EARN STEROIDS IN VENICE CALI
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OMG I HIT BASEBALL SOO FAR AFTER I TAKE A STEROID.
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OMG I HIT BASEBALL SOO FAR AFTER I TAKE A STEROID.
translation.... I have nothing intelligent to add
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OMG I HIT BASEBALL SOO FAR AFTER I TAKE A STEROID.
hahahah
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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
Clear case of roid rage going on here.
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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
Steroids = Drugs HTH
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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
right on bro. Plus, if you get a prescritpion and regular check ups what more can you ask for?
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right on bro. Plus, if you get a prescritpion and regular check ups what more can you ask for?
a blowjob with a handfull of cotton candy...
bench
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a blowjob with a handfull of cotton candy...
bench
you always carry cotton candy with you? :D
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I just farted.
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cotton candy is gay
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you always carry cotton candy with you? :D
negative.....but in a perfect world you should either be given a hamburger, or a handfull of cotton candy after a blowjob...then the bitch needs to wash your clothes.....then when you are done eating....sex time...
bench
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negative.....but in a perfect world you should either be given a hamburger, or a handfull of cotton candy after a blowjob...then the bitch needs to wash your clothes.....then when you are done eating....sex time...
bench
If your police department only knew the real you. ;)
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If your police department only knew the real you. ;)
they do......
bench
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cotton candy is gay
So is a bj depending on who doing the servicing.
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slacker 2012
;D
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THE BOTTOM FUCKING LINE ON STEROIDS
THEY WORK
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Everytime after I have a few beers, I have to run PCT of HCG and clomid for several weeks to get my balls working again. ::)
LOL!!
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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
Steroids cannot be that good for you because castrated men live on average 17 years more than intact men. Women have much lower levels of testosterone and live on average about roughly a decade more than men. I've never heard of anyone using steroids for prolonged periods of time witout getting some problems with their kidneys, liver and cardiovascular systems. Steroids are not as harmful as crack cocaine or PCP, but they are not benign substances either...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Steroids cannot be that good for you because castrated men live on average 17 years more than intact men. Women have much lower levels of testosterone and live on average about roughly a decade more than men. I've never heard of anyone using steroids for prolonged periods of time witout getting some problems with their kidneys, liver and cardiovascular systems. Steroids are not as harmful as crack cocaine or PCP, but they are not benign substances either...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
So like tobacco and alcohol ?
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So like tobacco and alcohol ?
whats that got to do with it?
the argument isnt "what is worse for you?"...
people just dont get it.
this argument is about as moot as the legalise marijuana one. Without an objective debate it is pointless. Places like GB cannot possibly have it- about steroids OR marijuana. The fact is that people more numerous, much smarter and completely informed than people here have made the decision- based on objective FACT, not bullshit opinion.
And theyve decided to make them illegal. So stop whining and do it the hard way.
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whats that got to do with it?
the argument isnt "what is worse for you?"...
people just dont get it.
this argument is about as moot as the legalise marijuana one. Without an objective debate it is pointless. Places like GB cannot possibly have it- about steroids OR marijuana. The fact is that people more numerous, much smarter and completely informed than people here have made the decision- based on objective FACT, not bullshit opinion.
And theyve decided to make them illegal. So stop whining and do it the hard way.
Who asked you fatboy ?
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I don't give a shit if you smoke tobacco, crack, heroin or marijuana, and i don't care as well if you drink alcohol, do steroids or cocaine.
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I don't give a shit if you smoke tobacco, crack, heroin or marijuana, and i don't care as well if you drink alcohol, do steroids or cocaine.
Exactly its personal choice and everything if abused has the potential to cause harm.
Fat fucks like disco poo sit there wagging finger saying steroids are evil all whilst sinking a 6 pack of bud each night and living off fast food.
idiot he is , talks through his rectum ::)
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Exactly its personal choice and everything if abused has the potential to cause harm.
Fat fucks like disco poo sit there wagging finger saying steroids are evil all whilst sinking a 6 pack of bud each night and living off fast food.
idiot he is , talks through his rectum ::)
Pizza can harm you more than steroids, or alcohol or tobacco.
Clogged blood with a stroke will major ruin your future. But i don't give a shit about all the fat people. If you choose to take steroids and fuck up you body, it's your fault.
Basically the whole discussion is ridiculous.
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bodybuilders use steroids
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So like tobacco and alcohol ?
Yes, tobacco and alcohol are harmful, too. I don't use any. Just because there are other things out there that are as bad or worse than steroids does not mean that steroids are harmless.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Needs another cycle.
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so does anyone have anything intelligent to add. steroids are far less harmful then drugs and alcohol.
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YES
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I smoke Trenbolone...
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I smoke Trenbolone...
that explains alot.
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so does anyone have anything intelligent to add. steroids are far less harmful then drugs and alcohol.
testosterona - For thickness and swole look.
equipony - For delt roundess.
trenbalonie - For freaky three dimensional look.
masteroni - For hardness and finished look.
gh15 bible approved
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testosterona - For thickness and swole look.
equipony - For delt roundess.
trenbalonie - For freaky three dimensional look.
masteroni - For hardness and finished look.
gh15 bible approved
Thanks P that was helpful. I hope to get back to 240/250 ish with 10% bf by the new year
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i KNOW STEROIDS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO HAVE SOME SIDES. HOWEVER I DONT SEE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE HYSTERIA THAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS.
I DONT DRINK
I DONT DO DRUGS
I DONT SMOKE
ALL OF WHICH ARE WORSE FOR YOU THAN USING STEROIDS IN MODERATION.
DISCUSS
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I am sensai
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by the way. i totally agree with you.. We can smoke and kill our lungs but not get buff.
we need roid lobbiest in washington dc
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Everytime after I have a few beers, I have to run PCT of HCG and clomid for several weeks to get my balls working again. ::)
I'm thinking of stacking some Nolva with my Camels. ::)
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I am sensai
sensai = 繊細？ ahahahahaa, no way.
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testosterona - For thickness and swole look.
equipony - For delt roundess.
trenbalonie - For freaky three dimensional look.
masteroni - For hardness and finished look.
gh15 bible approved
How about makkaroni and tortelloni?
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Why are bodybuilders from the 60's not dropping dead? i mean you would think half would be dead by now, YET all are Steroid bound to die of old age ???
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Why are bodybuilders from the 60's not dropping dead? i mean you would think half would be dead by now, YET all are Steroid bound to die of old age ???
you said it bro esp since they didnt regulate anything and had very little knowledge of what they were taking
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and there for
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so does anyone have anything intelligent to add. steroids are far less harmful then drugs and alcohol.
Use in moderation and your ok. Abuse and your doomed. Croatch to chim in with his anit-steroid remarks in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....
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I don't give a shit if you smoke tobacco, crack, heroin or marijuana, and i don't care as well if you drink alcohol, do steroids or cocaine.
Sounds like a good Friday night...
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Sounds like a good Friday night...
shit I jumped the gun and started yesterday
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shit I jumped the gun and started yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9DSzeuFVJU
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great link
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wherea
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Where are all the sick and dieing steroid users. discuss
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There are millions of steroid users worldwide and even the more extreme ones have a low percentage of medical problems...Now compare that to someone that drinks a 5th of whiskey everyday for 20 years and compare the statistics and wonder why are they not kicking in the doors of drunks......
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I always remember when they showed the emergency roome visits statistics, deaths, etc. on the bigger stronger faster movie, it really shows how the whole steroids thing is taken out of proportion.
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Deaths_of_Steroids
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Deaths_of_Steroids
I wonder if congress will ever see he error of their ways
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Goodrum said when this photo was taken he was on roids and that is the reason he is so bloated and he didn't like the look. That is why he decied to go natural and get that ripped look. Discuss (this is a true story by the way)
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Agreed here.
My only beef is people can't do much in a gym without them, which to me, is just weak.
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Where are all the sick and dieing steroid users. discuss
yeah but why would ya want any of the side effects? (unless you're being handsomely rewarded for it.)
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Where are all the sick and dieing steroid users. discuss
They don't exactly die as a direct result of steroid injections. But suffer from many related diseases and physical issues. And sometimes die from seemingly unrelated conditions or shortened lifespan.
Some of the undisputed effects in varying degree are: Fucked up Cholesterol, heart enlargement, high blood pressure, liver problems or cysts, reduced renal function or complete failure.
It come creeping. But it can be minimized, and it's certainly dose related and depends of your over all health, lifestyle genetics.
Same reason why some people can smoke an live to be a 100 years. Or be drunkards their whole life and still live till old age. While others die within 10 years from the same drug usage.
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I've heard that one of the big reasons why roids became illegal was due to the fact that the federal government (specifically the IRS) was having difficulty taxing them and they were extremely profitable within the 'underground' and also due to the fact that major criminal elements were actively involved and making huge amounts of money.
Not sure if the above is accurate though.
But if you would like to know the true history of how roids became illegal, it's all clearly spelt out in a book written by one of the NPC lawyers.
I forget the name of that book but I'll Google it and post the name below. It's a damn good read.
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I've heard that one of the big reasons why roids became illegal was due to the fact that the federal government (specifically the IRS) was having difficulty taxing them and they were extremely profitable within the 'underground' and also due to the fact that major criminal elements were actively involved and making huge amounts of money.
Not sure if the above is accurate though.
But if you would like to know the true history of how roids became illegal, it's all clearly spelt out in a book written by one of the NPC lawyers.
I forget the name of that book but I'll Google it and post the name below. It's a damn good read.
Very similar to weed....Go figure
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Real, Yea, but maybe I got that story mixed with the weed conotation.
Here is some good info most of you GetBiggers might be interested in
http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php
Rick Collins was the author of the book I'm attempting to find on the net and it might be mentioned in the above website. I'm a bit pressed for time so I have not read the above in detail yet.
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The book I mentioned above is LEGAL MUSCLE by Rick COllins..... www.rickcollins.com (I'm not sure if Mr Collins was connected in any way with the NPC but his associations with various sports organizations might be mentioned in his website.)
If you are a roid enthusiast or have an adverse opinion on the use of roids for any reason whatsoever, this book would definitely be worth reading.
I read it a few years back when a friend was arrested and found it very informative.
How roids became illegal section is a real eye-opener and will show you who pushed it in Congress, why he pushed it, and the AMA's recommendation against the eventual outcome. I'd be more specific but its been a few years since I opened LEGAL MUSCLE.
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They don't exactly die as a direct result of steroid injections. But suffer from many related diseases and physical issues. And sometimes die from seemingly unrelated conditions or shortened lifespan.
Some of the undisputed effects in varying degree are: Fucked up Cholesterol, heart enlargement, high blood pressure, liver problems or cysts, reduced renal function or complete failure.
It come creeping. But it can be minimized, and it's certainly dose related and depends of your over all health, lifestyle genetics.
Same reason why some people can smoke an live to be a 100 years. Or be drunkards their whole life and still live till old age. While others die within 10 years from the same drug usage.
Eat too much junk food and the same can happen even faster. Your argument sucks.
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There are a few guys on pro-muscle who had close calls with heart attacks, but not knowing all the variables (diet, use vs abuse, hereditary problems, other drugs etc) it's hard to put it down to the gear.
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Agreed here.
My only beef is people can't do much in a gym without them, which to me, is just weak.
fuck off and join a natty board you fucking whining uncle tom. You did them before so dont be a hypocrite
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Agreed here.
My only beef is people can't do much in a gym without them, which to me, is just weak.
That's a complete crock. I know lots of guys who train hard both naturally and sauced and they would dwarf or be more ripped than most of the general public in a heart beat. To say that people can't do much in the gym without them is stupid.
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steroids yay
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That's a complete crock. I know lots of guys who train hard both naturally and sauced and they would dwarf or be more ripped than most of the general public in a heart beat. To say that people can't do much in the gym without them is stupid.
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Where are all the sick and dieing steroid users. discuss
you do realize that someone with aids or hep c
looks just like you. exactly like you. like you and mom.
you and your dad. your woman.
what you don't see is what you don't know and you should keep your fucking
punk ass mouth shut and not assume.
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That's a complete crock. I know lots of guys who train hard both naturally and sauced and they would dwarf or be more ripped than most of the general public in a heart beat. To say that people can't do much in the gym without them is stupid.
Excuse me, people at my gym. Maybe you train with men. See, I train with little boys, pretending to be manly by using gear for their gains, still looking shitty.
My apologies.
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you do realize that someone with aids or hep c
looks just like you. exactly like you. like you and mom.
you and your dad. your woman.
what you don't see is what you don't know and you should keep your fucking
punk ass mouth shut and not assume.
wtf are you talking about bitch. I am pro steroids and I am asking where are all the people dieing from steroid use. So learn to read you fucking cunt
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Excuse me, people at my gym. Maybe you train with men. See, I play with little boys, pretending to be manly by using gear for their gains, still looking shitty.
My apologies.
WTF dude your sick
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you do realize that someone with aids or hep c
looks just like you. exactly like you. like you and mom.
you and your dad. your woman.
what you don't see is what you don't know and you should keep your fucking
punk ass mouth shut and not assume.
waiting
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The book I mentioned above is LEGAL MUSCLE by Rick COllins..... www.rickcollins.com (I'm not sure if Mr Collins was connected in any way with the NPC but his associations with various sports organizations might be mentioned in his website.)
If you are a roid enthusiast or have an adverse opinion on the use of roids for any reason whatsoever, this book would definitely be worth reading.
I read it a few years back when a friend was arrested and found it very informative.
How roids became illegal section is a real eye-opener and will show you who pushed it in Congress, why he pushed it, and the AMA's recommendation against the eventual outcome. I'd be more specific but its been a few years since I opened LEGAL MUSCLE.
He helped with a steroid case against me when I got busted about 10 years ago. Mine is one of the case studies in the book. I also edited the computer security chapter in it for him. Its a great book that really does open your eyes to the bullshit way steroid laws were passed and how they are enforced.
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WTF dude your sick
haha "play" with little boys
You mean train.
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All the problems from steriods relate to the heart and blood and shit. It's pretty much the same as being overweight. The old guys from the 60's were the same as being 30 pounds over weight. The new breed are like people being 100 pounds over weight. And sure you don't see fat people dieing every day. But your not gonna bet money some 400 pounds dude is gonna live past 60. It's common sense. Until you see someone in your direct family get sick most people will never get it.
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The problem nowadays is our knowledge has gotten so much better with using steroids and PE drugs.......but that has only made guys/gals more reckless and irresponsible. The dosages internet bodybuilders are using is bat shit crazy. The opposite should be happening. As we find out some of the longer term health affects and risks of steroid abuse we should be moderating their use. Guys think they can take a pill to counter act all the bad side effects of steroids and in the end they will be ok...... bullshit. I know tons of guys who never come off and are into crazy dose ranges i.e. 2000-3000mgs of injectables a week along with several hundred mgs of orals a day. They say it's just "the lifestyle". if you criticize what they do you're not hardcore enough. . And most of these guys look like complete shit and don't even compete. They are just big bloated meatheads that look it too. More is not better.
The I will have to agree with others about is that most of the guys are so jacked all the time that even if they wanted to come off it would take years for their bodies to get back to normal if ever and by that time they'd lose everything they gained over the years of using steroids. If they came off the drugs they wouldn't gain shit and they'd be emotional wrecks as well trying to deal with the loss of size. That's the funniest part. Some of these guys are so used to walking around at 275lbs + the minute they lose 15-20lbs of muscle they cry like a little bitch and their whole identity that revolves around being "big" crumbles. And I'm not even talking pros.......these are everyday joes obsessed with steroids and lifting and who's sole purpose is to "look" big. Their health is most definitely going to shit.
Look at BaldNazi, and other dumbasses over the years that have had major set backs and almost died becaues of their steroid use. Who's that one idiot from PM who died.........BigPutz or some shit who had a kid he left behidn that died a few years ago? Trust me there are a lot of guys with health problems from their steroid abuse..........they just hide it very well or worse don't even realize they have problems until they go into the doctor for a liver biopsy and bleed to death........or worse go to and never wake up. Plus many of these guys are on other shit like bain, G, pain killers etc.
But it's the "lifetsyle". And unless you're hardcore you just don't understand. LOL
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And I didn't even mention all the shit floating around in most of the UG crap that accelerates the dangers of using steroids..........bacter ia..............rancid oils................heav y metals..............etc. Mega dosing underground steroids from raw powders in China has got to be the stupidest fucking thing in the world.
For me personally I'll never use UG stuff again save for maybe the occasional AlphaPharma/Sciroxx prorduct etc. But some big boated meathead buying powders and selling the shit to his gym buddies and "bros" on the boards...........fuck that!
And one thing most guys forget these drugs are highly illegal in the police state we call America. Forget all the health ramifications of steroid abuse and just think about the legal ramifications. Is it really worth it in many ways? Having a felony on your record nowadays is a death sentence. Let alone paying tens of thousands of dollars in court costs, lawyer fees, bail etc. There was a guy just busted for importing 500 tabs of dbol and 4 vials of test.
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Another guy died over at OLM......long time source. Of course it had nothing to do with steroids. ::) Ok so then he was using drugs/pain killers or some other shit. But it wasn't those evil steroids. As if the "lifestyle" doesn't produce the propensity to use other shit? LMAO! In fact I'd say steroid related deaths are on the rise with increasing use, out of control and high doses, and the onslaught of cheap raw powders from China where everyone and their brother now is mr. big time chemist brewing shit in their garage or basement.
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And I didn't even mention all the shit floating around in most of the UG crap that accelerates the dangers of using steroids..........bacter ia..............rancid oils................heav y metals..............etc. Mega dosing underground steroids from raw powders in China has got to be the stupidest fucking thing in the world.
For me personally I'll never use UG stuff again save for maybe the occasional AlphaPharma/Sciroxx prorduct etc. But some big boated meathead buying powders and selling the shit to his gym buddies and "bros" on the boards...........fuck that!
And one thing most guys forget these drugs are highly illegal in the police state we call America. Forget all the health ramifications of steroid abuse and just think about the legal ramifications. Is it really worth it in many ways? Having a felony on your record nowadays is a death sentence. Let alone paying tens of thousands of dollars in court costs, lawyer fees, bail etc. There was a guy just busted for importing 500 tabs of dbol and 4 vials of test.
Bullshit...The pack was probably just seized..and he got the letter...Do you really think LE is gonna go after a rec user, especially for that amount? ::)
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very informative
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Hey smartass (Captain Insano)......don't open your mouth unless you know what you're talking about!
http://www.bodyofscience.com/wordpress/?p=3178
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Another guy died over at OLM......long time source. Of course it had nothing to do with steroids. ::) Ok so then he was using drugs/pain killers or some other shit. But it wasn't those evil steroids. As if the "lifestyle" doesn't produce the propensity to use other shit? LMAO! In fact I'd say steroid related deaths are on the rise with increasing use, out of control and high doses, and the onslaught of cheap raw powders from China where everyone and their brother now is mr. big time chemist brewing shit in their garage or basement.
I agree to a point, but there ARE some reputable UG sources out there. I mainly use 2 UGL sources that have been around for awhile. As for Test, HG is the way to go, no doubt about it.
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Hey smartass (Captain Insano)......don't open your mouth unless you know what you're talking about!
http://www.bodyofscience.com/wordpress/?p=3178
Great use of Tax dollars. >:( >:(
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I agree to a point, but there ARE some reputable UG sources out there. I mainly use 2 UGL sources that have been around for awhile. As for Test, HG is the way to go, no doubt about it.
Just because a product works doesn't mean it is free from impurities. If protein powders sold on the US market can manage to have moderate to high levels of heavy metals I can only imagine what some of the UG products contain. Plus much of the BA/BB/EO content used is hardly very scientific. It's all "broscience" pass about from board to board over the years. Most of these UG brewers act like they are fucking chemists with minor in biochemistry when the complete opposiste is true.......most can't even tie their own shoes correctly. AlphaPharma, Sciroxx, AsiaPharam and other big brands might be the exception. But some big meat head ordering powders from china, putting a fancy label on his product and calling himself a "source"???????? LMAO! Thats' what the UG market has been reduced to. Everyone and their brother is pimping the same shit on all the same boards.
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Just because a product works doesn't mean it is free from impurities. If protein powders sold on the US market can manage to have moderate to high levels of heavy metals I can only imagine what some of the UG products contain. Plus much of the BA/BB/EO content used is hardly very scientific. It's all "broscience" pass about from board to board over the years. Most of these UG brewers act like they are fucking chemists with minor in biochemistry when the complete opposiste is true.......most can't even tie their own shoes correctly. AlphaPharma, Sciroxx, AsiaPharam and other big brands might be the exception. But some big meat head ordering powders from china, putting a fancy label on his product and calling himself a "source"???????? LMAO! Thats' what the UG market has been reduced to. Everyone and their brother is pimping the same shit on all the same boards.
Agreed.
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The problem nowadays is our knowledge has gotten so much better with using steroids and PE drugs.......but that has only made guys/gals more reckless and irresponsible. The dosages internet bodybuilders are using is bat shit crazy. The opposite should be happening. As we find out some of the longer term health affects and risks of steroid abuse we should be moderating their use. Guys think they can take a pill to counter act all the bad side effects of steroids and in the end they will be ok...... bullshit. I know tons of guys who never come off and are into crazy dose ranges i.e. 2000-3000mgs of injectables a week along with several hundred mgs of orals a day. They say it's just "the lifestyle". if you criticize what they do you're not hardcore enough. . And most of these guys look like complete shit and don't even compete. They are just big bloated meatheads that look it too. More is not better.
The I will have to agree with others about is that most of the guys are so jacked all the time that even if they wanted to come off it would take years for their bodies to get back to normal if ever and by that time they'd lose everything they gained over the years of using steroids. If they came off the drugs they wouldn't gain shit and they'd be emotional wrecks as well trying to deal with the loss of size. That's the funniest part. Some of these guys are so used to walking around at 275lbs + the minute they lose 15-20lbs of muscle they cry like a little bitch and their whole identity that revolves around being "big" crumbles. And I'm not even talking pros.......these are everyday joes obsessed with steroids and lifting and who's sole purpose is to "look" big. Their health is most definitely going to shit.
Look at BaldNazi, and other dumbasses over the years that have had major set backs and almost died becaues of their steroid use. Who's that one idiot from PM who died.........BigPutz or some shit who had a kid he left behidn that died a few years ago? Trust me there are a lot of guys with health problems from their steroid abuse..........they just hide it very well or worse don't even realize they have problems until they go into the doctor for a liver biopsy and bleed to death........or worse go to and never wake up. Plus many of these guys are on other shit like bain, G, pain killers etc.
But it's the "lifetsyle". And unless you're hardcore you just don't understand. LOL
The guy using trt doses yr round who bumps the dose up to 750mg a few months a year will likely never have problems as long as they monitor themselves with bloods every six months. Of course the idiots who over do it will have problems. Just like anything you overdo.
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Regardless of the pro's and con's of drug usage, the government should have no say in what we choose to do to our own bodies.
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Where are all the sick and dieing steroid users. discuss
Okay, then take your fucking steroids and shut the fuck up already......
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Spar, thanks for the backup. Anyone who talks the steroid talk or walks the steroid walk without reading Legal Muscle is lacking a shitload of solid information.
The few pages regarding how roids became illegal alone is interesting, educational, and thought provoking.
Most interesting parts of those few pages concern the Annapolis student who claimed that he didn't make the football team because he didn't take steroids thereby pissing his dad (an elected politician) off enough to do something about it and make them illegal. And the AMA's stand. And the fact that no one in authority did anything about it.
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Okay, then take your fucking steroids and shut the fuck up already......
i will rip your head off
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Bullshit...The pack was probably just seized..and he got the letter...Do you really think LE is gonna go after a rec user, especially for that amount? ::)
Well, SWAT, local police, military OSI and a federal task force raided my house and busted me for 300 tabs of d-bol, so my answer would be yes, I really do think that.
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Spar, and I bet'cha about 10 to 20% of that roid raid assault team were on a roid program of their own.
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And I didn't even mention all the shit floating around in most of the UG crap that accelerates the dangers of using steroids..........bacter ia..............rancid oils................heav y metals..............etc. Mega dosing underground steroids from raw powders in China has got to be the stupidest fucking thing in the world.
For me personally I'll never use UG stuff again save for maybe the occasional AlphaPharma/Sciroxx prorduct etc. But some big boated meathead buying powders and selling the shit to his gym buddies and "bros" on the boards...........fuck that!
And one thing most guys forget these drugs are highly illegal in the police state we call America. Forget all the health ramifications of steroid abuse and just think about the legal ramifications. Is it really worth it in many ways? Having a felony on your record nowadays is a death sentence. Let alone paying tens of thousands of dollars in court costs, lawyer fees, bail etc. There was a guy just busted for importing 500 tabs of dbol and 4 vials of test.
what about vet gear does it contain as much bacteria as ugl?
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Never had a problem with vet gear. I.e. Denkall, Quality Vet, etc. But there just isn't much vet gear out there anymore. Cheap mexican vet gear was some of the best stuff I used back in the day.
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Hey, Mc! Equipoise was somewhat common back in the 70's. A bunch of bodybuilders attended some kind of a horse auction event back in Tenn and we were wondering how those darn horses got so damn muscular. After the auction we went 'backstage' and 'discovered' Equipoise and a couple of the guys tried it out over an extended period.
And they said it worked very well except that they started counting with their feet.
Have you heard anything about Ace-031 yet?
I hear that it's presently being tested for MD patients.
Do you think it will ever be used by competitive athletes?
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Regardless of the pro's and con's of drug usage, the government should have no say in what we choose to do to our own bodies.
I agree with this point overall. However, who should pay for the health care costs of illness related to use of "gear"?
I know the same could be said for cigarettes, eating a poor diet, etc. Just a thought to ponder
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Spar, and I bet'cha about 10 to 20% of that roid raid assault team were on a roid program of their own.
Well, two of them were jacked and obvious users. I asked them, "what do you guys think of this?" and the one guy said "hey man, we're just doing our jobs."
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And they said it worked very well except that they started counting with their feet.
I don't understand. What do you mean exactly?
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this thread needs the opinions of getbigs only two steroid experts with decades of abuse between them:
groink and no one.
their opinion on steroids is the only thing that matters.
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Well, two of them were jacked and obvious users. I asked them, "what do you guys think of this?" and the one guy said "hey man, we're just doing our jobs."
Wait you're not that guy from Hawaii that got busted are you?
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this thread needs the opinions of getbigs only two steroid experts with decades of abuse between them:
groink and no one.
their opinion on steroids is the only thing that matters.
Shouldn't you be at the factory woking a 12 hour shift, get going Tubbs!
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this thread needs the opinions of getbigs only two steroid experts with decades of abuse between them:
groink and no one.
their opinion on steroids is the only thing that matters.
x2
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These guys thought that steroids were as safe as candy, they thought WRONG!!
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These guys thought that steroids were as safe as candy, they thought WRONG!!
obviously they were over using
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Arnold- heart
Padilla- heart
Marunde- heart
Flex- kidneys
Don long- liver
just to name a few. all would have been dead if it wasn't for modern day medecine.
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adding to the list:
Matarazzo- heart
Dim- heart
Robert Benavente- heart
Steve Michalik- heart and liver
Ed Kawak- heart
please do add
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adding to the list:
Matarazzo- heart
Dim- heart
Trevor Schmidt- heart
Robert Benavente- heart
please do add
Trevor Smith committed suicide. And Flex Wheeler had kidney issues not heart issues.
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Trevor Smith committed suicide. And Flex Wheeler had kidney issues not heart issues.
well thanks for correction.
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yeah but they are alive. And I am more interested in the effects on Joe Average not my 4500mg per week abuser
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Wait you're not that guy from Hawaii that got busted are you?
No. I got busted in Phoenix.
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yeah but they are alive. And I am more interested in the effects on Joe Average not my 4500mg per week abuser
if I remember right Van_Bilderass refered to some study that said dosages up to 600mg/week was with in "safe" levels.
either way what bodybuilder stays that low that's not even hrt for a bodybuilder lol
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Bullshit...The pack was probably just seized..and he got the letter...Do you really think LE is gonna go after a rec user, especially for that amount? ::)
Swat teams have been known to bust in doors because some overzealous prosecutor was looking for an easy score. The target? Handicapped people with a month supply of pain meds, that barely exceded legal limits.
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Flexfan, Equipoise is a roid for horses and other farm critters.
And a number of horse acts involve horses counting with their 'feet'.
So it was intended as a joke back then. Not too funny now, I guess!
Sarge, Can you be more specific about your arrest and the eventual outcome. And would you recommend your lawyer under today's circumstances.
The one individual I know who was proscuted (persecuted) was tossed about within the legal system until they drove him broke and unable to defend himself .... then they simply left him alone.
My humble opinion is that roid use is OK, but roid abuse is not. But neither should warrant a prison sentence.
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if I remember right Van_Bilderass refered to some study that said dosages up to 600mg/week was with in "safe" levels.
either way what bodybuilder stays that low that's not even hrt for a bodybuilder lol
true enough
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a blowjob with a handfull of cotton candy...
bench
now that would be reason to give thanks
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if I remember right Van_Bilderass refered to some study that said dosages up to 600mg/week was with in "safe" levels.
either way what bodybuilder stays that low that's not even hrt for a bodybuilder lol
yes test e has 100% been shown as safe up to 600mg so far. ( i can post the study)
i think deca too ( although i would have to check and verify this)
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There are millions of steroid users worldwide and even the more extreme ones have a low percentage of medical problems...Now compare that to someone that drinks a 5th of whiskey everyday for 20 years and compare the statistics and wonder why are they not kicking in the doors of drunks......
how many americans drink alcohol? 75%?
230 million americans... how many americans take steroids?
hope this helps
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dont mind the new x emn series
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yes test e has 100% been shown as safe up to 600mg so far. ( i can post the study)
i think deca too ( although i would have to check and verify this)
please educate the masses
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yes test e has 100% been shown as safe up to 600mg so far. ( i can post the study)
i think deca too ( although i would have to check and verify this)
why in the fuck are you even in this thread fatass?
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Spar, and I bet'cha about 10 to 20% of that roid raid assault team were on a roid program of their own.
Are you saying they wanted to get some supplies? ;D
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why in the fuck are you even in this thread fatass?
Fatpanda is a steroid expert as well, he claimed he had used before and he was at 9% bf at 230 lbs two years ago. ::) ::)
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fckrs :D
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how many americans drink alcohol? 75%?
230 million americans... how many americans take steroids?
hope this helps
does it make alcohol abuse/dependency right or better??? I mean, when is the last time someone went broke livin on the streets over steroid addiction???
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Fatpanda is a steroid expert as well, he claimed he had used before and he was at 9% bf at 230 lbs two years ago. ::) ::)
your ignorance knows no bounds.
1 was 147lbs at around 9%.
maybe if you read my posts once in a while instead of just masturbating to no ones lies.
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your ignorance knows no bounds.
1 was 147lbs at around 9%.
maybe if you read my posts once in a while instead of just masturbating to no ones lies.
I weighed that in grade 8
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I weighed that in grade 8
with a 6 pack ?
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with a 6 pack ?
With an 8-pack.
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your ignorance knows no bounds.
1 was 147lbs at around 9%.
maybe if you read my posts once in a while instead of just masturbating to no ones lies.
That is what you weighed when you were homeless and starving on the streets of Scottland.
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your ignorance knows no bounds.
1 was 147lbs at around 9%.
maybe if you read my posts once in a while instead of just masturbating to no ones lies.
and now you're just obese and skinny at the same time. kill yourself..
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With an 8-pack.
impressive.
That is what you weighed when you were homeless and starving on the streets of Scottland.
you shouldn't believe everything you hear ;)
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wow
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:o
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No. I got busted in Phoenix.
Getting busted with juice doesnt exactly bump you up the ladder of the underworld. Fyi.
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Getting busted with juice doesnt exactly bump you up the ladder of the underworld. Fyi.
esp if its just orange
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wheres all the good info