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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Parker on October 06, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
Cutler , right guy in the right place at the right time
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Cutler , right guy in the right place at the right time
2008, was Punished...
But, does that give him legitimacy to be held up and compared or spoken in the same breath as these greats? I mean, the others are spoken with reverance. For the most part, most people who even are acutler fans, have not really been fans of his physique, even when he won his first 2.
You see Ronnie at the Expo, and he caused a stir, in clothes he looks more freaky than Cutler did on stage. WTH? It's just something is odd wit this picture.
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No.
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He won't be a Arnold or Haney or Ronnie. Zane won multiple times, but his name doesn't come up alot.
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2008, was Punished...
But, does that give him legitimacy to be held up and compared or spoken in the same breath as these greats? I mean, the others are spoken with reverance. For the most part, most people who even are acutler fans, have not really been fans of his physique, even when he won his first 2.
You see Ronnie at the Expo, and he caused a stir, in clothes he looks more freaky than Cutler did on stage. WTH? It's just something is odd wit this picture.
Cutler is one of those guys that just happen to stick around , stay healthy and win , he's like Dickerson and Columbu , you have to hand it to him although he's not in the league of the fore mentioned
I'm not a fan of his physique in the least but according to the rules he's the winner but his legacy will never be that of Arnold , Ronnie or Yates and Haney
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You don't have to be great to win right now. Jay is very good and that is good enough. Until someone comes along with his size, better conditioning, and better shape, he's the man.
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He is more of a filler until some freak comes along
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Cutler was just in the right place at the right time. The competition field is shallow and he has size, which the Olympia judges favor.
IMO he's the most overrated bodybuilder of all time. It's a crime that he now has 4 Olympia titles (3 of which most people don't think he deserves) while guys like Flex, Kevin, Victor, Shawn and Chris have 0 combined.
His physique is an abomination of everything bodybuilding is supposed to be about.
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Cutler brought facial looks to another level..
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Cutler was just in the right place at the right time. The competition field is shallow and he has size, which the Olympia judges favor.
IMO he's the most overrated bodybuilder of all time. It's a crime that he now has 4 Olympia titles (3 of which most people don't think he deserves) while guys like Flex, Kevin, Victor, Shawn and Chris have 0 combined.
His physique is an abomination of everything bodybuilding is supposed to be about.
I wouldn't go that far. The one most people don't think he deserves is his second one. All the others are pretty solid. Of course, in 2008, he really was off and Dex beat him (but some don't think he should have placed second in that one).
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No he won't be mentioned in the same way
to date I think jay deserved one of his titles
and that was 2009
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'nuff said.
I know Flex never won a Mr. O but I am throwing him in there anyway LOL
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2006 - I still give to Ronnie with injuries given they didnt want Ronnie to finish with 9 vs Haney's 8. On top of that Ronnie wasted him on the Euro Tour.
2007 - Vic
2008 - Dex
2009 - Jay
2010 - Jay - I thought phil but his day is coming.
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Why invest the title holder with more than the title implies?
The Olympia winner is the best bodybuilder, on the day. That's it. Judging controversies aside, if someone like Dexter only ever wins one title, so what? He was the best bodybuilder on the day. The same goes for Dickerson and Samir (and even Columbu).
The winner should be the best man on the day and that's how it should be looked at.
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
It doesen't matter. You are not compared to the best ever, but to the guys you are competing against. Cutler is the best currently because all of his opponents have serious flaws that he doesen't. Phil Heath is too small and has serious structural flaws despite his round muscle bellies and great taper. Wolfe has a long torso and terrible calves and so on...
And you can't really compare any bodybuilders to Dorian and Ron at their best. These two are so far above every other bodybuilder in history that it is unfair to compare. The ultimate bodybuildiing show would be Ronnie at the 1998 Olympia vs Dorian 1995.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The ultimate bodybuildiing show would be Ronnie at the 1998 Olympia vs Dorian 1995.
make that Ronnie 99 (he was better overall than in 98 easily) and dorian 93 (dorian had the awful torn bi in 95) and I would agree.
and by the way, Ronnie would win :P 8)
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make that Ronnie 99 (he was better overall than in 98 easily) and dorian 93 (dorian had the awful torn bi in 95) and I would agree.
and by the way, Ronnie would win :P 8)
He might - and I have sustained that from day one. Unfortunately, we'll never know.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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...Cutler is the best currently because all of his opponents have serious flaws that he doesen't...
That's a good point. If he has less flaws than the other competitors on the day, he wins. Very simple. If every year he continues to have less flaws than the other competitors, then more power to him.
Now, disagreeing on what constitutes a flaw is another subject entirely.
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Cutler , right guy in the right place at the right time
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There's only so far that the human body can progress in terms of bodybuilding. I don't expect to see anyone who surpasses Ronnie any time soon. Phil is continuing to improve and it will be interesting to see just how big his arms can get, but I don't know if another Ronnie Coleman will ever be seen again in the bodybuilding industry.
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olympia multi winners:
arnold = white..
haney = black..
dorian = white..
ronnie = black..
jay = white..
what a coincidence ;D
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Cutler , right guy in the right place at the right time
absolutely correct, he stayed around long enough, stayed healthy, improved his CONDITIONING in 2006, 2009 u got to give him 9/10 for his Perseverance alone.
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make that Ronnie 99 (he was better overall than in 98 easily) and dorian 93 (dorian had the awful torn bi in 95) and I would agree.
and by the way, Ronnie would win :P 8)
He MIGHT win as Dorian MIGHT win...1993 Yates vs 1998 Coleman would be THE CONTEST of 2 of the Best ever.
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2006 - I still give to Ronnie with injuries given they didnt want Ronnie to finish with 9 vs Haney's 8. On top of that Ronnie wasted him on the Euro Tour.
This is pure drivel. How do you know what "they" want or didn't want, whoever "they" are?
Ronnie was / is way more popular than Haney ever was, not to mention he'd been looking worse and worse since 2003, which wasn't his best shape, but set a new standard in muscularity. He had too many injuries in 2006 and Jay looked better, which is why the latter won.
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And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level.
"A other level", i assume by that you mean some kind of shitty bloated monster gut level?
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
He hasn't really changed anything because eveyone knows he's only top dog since Ronnie got old and tore everything.
He is however the widest guy around at the moment proportional to his frame, and now he's got his waist looking a bit better again it's gonna take someone in crazy shape to knock him off the top unless he comes in flat and fat again.
I guess we're in a period like the lat 70s earl 80s where a few guys look pretty good but noone is advancing the sport. I seriously thought Kai was gonna blow us all away this year with a new level of shredded crazyiness, but I guess that didn't happen.
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"A other level", i assume by that you mean some kind of shitty bloated monster gut level?
We all can agree other than you, Ronnie took the "freaky look" to another level, just inhuman...yes gut included....
It doesen't matter. You are not compared to the best ever, but to the guys you are competing against. Cutler is the best currently because all of his opponents have serious flaws that he doesen't. Phil Heath is too small and has serious structural flaws despite his round muscle bellies and great taper. Wolfe has a long torso and terrible calves and so on...
And you can't really compare any bodybuilders to Dorian and Ron at their best. These two are so far above every other bodybuilder in history that it is unfair to compare. The ultimate bodybuildiing show would be Ronnie at the 1998 Olympia vs Dorian 1995.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I'm not comparing them per se, but asking does he warrant being mentioned with the likes that I had mentioned...Ronnie and Dorian are contemporaries, as are Ronnie and Jay, if given to logic, Jay would continue to build upon the uber freakiness that Ronnie brought, but he has not. Each era, builds upon the other, but it seems that after Ronnie, it has stagnated...with Jay, Ronnie was the plateau...now it's down hill
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To me, Jay only deserved his last two titles. 2007 was one of the biggest jokes and 2006 was more like Ronnie "losing" 'cause the judges got fed up with him winning while declining. But he still should have beaten Jay. Jay hasn't faced the competition the other greats faced (particularly Yates and Arnold). I think he'll be considered as more deserving than some (Dickerson, Columbu, Jackson) but less than the others.
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olympia multi winners:
arnold = white..
haney = black..
dorian = white..
ronnie = black..
jay = white..
what a coincidence ;D
How's it a coincidence? Are you saying they alternate the multi Olympia winners based solely on the colour of their skin? That would be a pretty hard trick to pull off in the last forty years of pro bodybuilding!
All it goes to show is that one can be a multi-O winner irrespective of their skin colour. Unlike other sports where skin colour does seem to matter, where the winner is always white (swimming), or black (100m running).
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Zane
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
youll have to excuse parker,
he is 160lbs and doesnt quite get bodybuilding yet.
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youll have to excuse parker,
he is 160lbs and doesnt quite get bodybuilding yet.
Dude, you contributed nothing to the thread, nor the topic. Read what I wrote, digest it, then comment. The topic is whether or not he should be mention in the same sentence as the others, is he as dominant. A yes or a no...
160 pounds? I've seen dudes like in the video, regularly, and some of them on PCP, roughly 160-170, so don't diss 160, like it ain't nothing. Go4It weighs 170, and the women throw him their panties...
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Dude, you contributed nothing to the thread, nor the topic. Read what I wrote, digest it, then comment. The topic is whether or not he should be mention in the same sentence as the others, is he as dominant. A yes or a no...
160 pounds? I've seen dudes like in the video, regularly, and some of them on PCP, roughly 160-170, so don't diss 160, like it ain't nothing. Go4It weighs 170, and the women throw him their panties...
hey gh...all weed, church's chicken and grape juice. and guess what? he still is not the complete extent of naturalness because probably doesnt do weight training to keep his flexibility.
if i'm wrong then tell me who he gets his blackmark sexual stimulates from in the hood. ::)
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hey gh...all weed, church's chicken and grape juice. and guess what? he still is not the complete extent of naturalness because probably doesnt do weight training to keep his flexibility.
if i'm wrong then tell me who he gets his blackmark sexual stimulates from in the hood. ::)
Exactly, and if these dudes only trained 6 mos, they could win Mr. Getbig out right...just doing playground exercises...
And being "160" ::)
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We all can agree other than you, Ronnie took the "freaky look" to another level, just inhuman...yes gut included....
I'm not comparing them per se, but asking does he warrant being mentioned with the likes that I had mentioned...Ronnie and Dorian are contemporaries, as are Ronnie and Jay, if given to logic, Jay would continue to build upon the uber freakiness that Ronnie brought, but he has not. Each era, builds upon the other, but it seems that after Ronnie, it has stagnated...with Jay, Ronnie was the plateau...now it's down hill
Each era got heavier and heavier, not necessarily better. There is still argument that Dorian in '93 was the best, 17 years ago. In order to be considered greater than Yates or Coleman, it won't be done on size, that's already been maxed out. It's going to be someone with their size, but more detail and shape; a genetic freak.
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Each era got heavier and heavier, not necessarily better. There is still argument that Dorian in '93 was the best, 17 years ago. In order to be considered greater than Yates or Coleman, it won't be done on size, that's already been maxed out. It's going to be someone with their size, but more detail and shape; a genetic freak.
Enter Heath? Kai? Cedric? Pakulski? Vic? Alvisi? Roelly?
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How's it a coincidence? Are you saying they alternate the multi Olympia winners based solely on the colour of their skin? That would be a pretty hard trick to pull off in the last forty years of pro bodybuilding!
All it goes to show is that one can be a multi-O winner irrespective of their skin colour. Unlike other sports where skin colour does seem to matter, where the winner is always white (swimming), or black (100m running).
no man i was just kidding :D
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Cutler will never reach the same legendary status of Ronnie, Haney, Arnold or Dorian....even if he wins more Olympias.
He basically didn't bring anything new to the table physique wise, his victories were not as dominant as the others (with the exception of 2009 maybe) and he just will never have the dominance the others had.
As others have said before in this thread, he was just at the right place and at the right time.
Now, I'm not trying to take anything away from Cutler, he is currently the best in the world (even though I'm not a fan of physique, I admit he beats everyone now)....but he can't be compared to them.
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make that Ronnie 99 (he was better overall than in 98 easily) and dorian 93 (dorian had the awful torn bi in 95) and I would agree.
and by the way, Ronnie would win :P 8)
No he won't. He said so himself. Stop trolling.
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thats true. when asked who would win if Ronnie, Arnold, Haney and Dorian stepped onstage at their all time bests, Ronnie said he would win.
thanks for refreshing our memories of this awesome quote that the quote-loving nuthuggers wish was never said.
thanks again :P
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thats true. when asked who would win if Ronnie, Arnold, Haney and Dorian stepped onstage at their all time bests, Ronnie said he would win.
thanks for refreshing our memories of this awesome quote that the quote-loving nuthuggers wish was never said.
thanks again :P
At it again huh? poor kid reduced to lying
Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?
R.C. Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.
he never once says he would win liar ;) in fact he says for a third time ' I couldn't beat them in their hey-days ' ;D
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
clear cut and concise ;)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
these two quotes ended anything you have to say about the subject and sent you into the trolling spiral that you've yet to come out of.
Ronnie said three times he could NOT beat Dorian , 3 strikes you're out. ;D
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Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win
ND says ronnie never said he would win even though he says it right here LOL
english is tough for ND lol.
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ND says ronnie never said he would win even though he says it right here LOL
english is tough for ND lol.
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he also said ' I could not beat them in their hey-days ' ;)
NO he never said it sorry and lets entertain he did , that's OLD news kid because at the close of his career he conceded yet again he would NOT beat Dorian so as usual you have nothing and your own hero kicks your ass ;)
understand this dummy no matter how much you wished he didn't say it he did and multiple times ;)
stop trolling
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ND says ronnie never said he would win even though he says it right here LOL
english is tough for ND lol.
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And Ironically you're the idiot who claimed who cares what Ronnie says he's a liar , he always lies , he lied about his injuries , ect LMFAO
now you desperately need Ronnie to be honest and the funny part is he never said in that quote he would beat them , in fact he said he would lose to them in their eras
as usual epic backfire dummy ;D
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
this is the last quote he made on the subject at the close of his career this alone trumps anything he said before hand but it only confirms what he said all along , he can't beat Dorian
thanks for playing stupid. ;)
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Jays physique last year was his best, that pic of him flexing his quad with flared lats will be 'one of those pics' for him IMO, like the priest triceps shot/platz quad pic.
His 09 form is worthy of being put in the mix of the OP's list.....would be at the bottom of the list but not out of place.
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Ronnie was an outstanding bodybuilder and Olympia winner, Yates at his very peak was just better, both guys are still the benchmarks. Bodybuilding similar to boxing has not progressed in the last decade.
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I remember reading the interview that ND is referring to. Ronnie said he felt Dorian could not be beaten.
I also recall Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillett, and Kevin Levrone having tremendous respect for Dorian. They at one point or another said Dorian was untouchable (who knows, they may have changed there minds down the road)
So if Flex, Ronnie, Dillett, and Levrone respected Yates, why do guys around here show Dorian so little respect?
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Doz was the man....his respect from him fellow competitors speaks volume.
Lot of nuthuggers and schmoes don't like him for some reason, maybe americans dislike his persona?
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Enter Heath? Kai? Cedric? Pakulski? Vic? Alvisi? Roelly?
Seriously? Haney, Yates, Coleman.....Pakulsi? There's about 5 top bodybuilders right now and Jay is a little better than the others. The idea that each generation of bodybuilders is better than the previous one is a fallacy. We may never see Dorian's graininess, Platz's thigh development, or Munzer's conditioning again in our lifetime.
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I remember reading the interview that ND is referring to. Ronnie said he felt Dorian could not be beaten.
I also recall Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillett, and Kevin Levrone having tremendous respect for Dorian. They at one point or another said Dorian was untouchable (who knows, they may have changed there minds down the road)
So if Flex, Ronnie, Dillett, and Levrone respected Yates, why do guys around here show Dorian so little respect?
They simply don't like his physique , they like the way Ronnie looks better and can't separate what they think looks better to what the judges do , Hulkster & pumpster started this trend of bashing Dorian , thinking this would somehow help his case and it backfired as usual
It confounds their pea-brains how Ronnie could concede that Dorian is better than him , but what do they know? they could wish Ronnie could dominate like Dorian did , they underestimate just how great he was
in the end Ronnie still feels Dorian would beat him , this alone doesn't make it so but I love running it in their face that Ronnie has consistently said Dorian would beat him , it just destroys them to hear ;D
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Goddamn both ronnie and dorian say the other would win (or some shit like that) quit using that facking argument
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
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Seriously? Haney, Yates, Coleman.....Pakulsi? There's about 5 top bodybuilders right now and Jay is a little better than the others. The idea that each generation of bodybuilders is better than the previous one is a fallacy. We may never see Dorian's graininess, Platz's thigh development, or Munzer's conditioning again in our lifetime.
Pakulski to me, looks better than Jay, give him time and he will be mind blowing, he has the shape, the size, freaky bodyparts (calves), photogenic...I say he will be one to watch.
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Goddamn both ronnie and dorian say the other would win (or some shit like that) quit using that facking argument
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
ND has to use that argument because the visuals fail him.
they show ronnie to be clearly better and he needs any angle he can get to stay afloat.
been going on for years now. thats why he posts so many quotes and so few visuals..
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Okay, we've all seen them at their peaks, and the three former Mr. O's are all very dominant during their respective eras. Can Jay Cutler be uttered in the same breath in terms of quality, dominance of field, and changine the game? Lee Haney forced others to change up, Dorian forced others to change up, namely everybody had to have not just a great back, but a outstanding one, plus mass and superior conditioning. And Ronnie Coleman built upon that, and took it to a other level. What has Cutler brought? How has Cutlee changed the game, if at all?
sure he continued with the big n cut ala haney, yates, coleman...
still outmuscles anybody he stands onstage with, his condi is up there, big cut quads etc..
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ND has to use that argument because the visuals fail him.
they show ronnie to be clearly better and he needs any angle he can get to stay afloat.
been going on for years now. thats why he posts so many quotes and so few visuals..
hahahahahaha the photoshopped pictures you tried to pass off as proof? the ones Kevin Horton busted you using? and a professional graphic artist ;D
give it up Hulkster you lost get over it , move on stop trolling in every thread that you see Yates name , more to this board than you spamming your bullshit , Ronnie ended anything you can type on the subject. ;)
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Dude, you contributed nothing to the thread, nor the topic. Read what I wrote, digest it, then comment. The topic is whether or not he should be mention in the same sentence as the others, is he as dominant. A yes or a no...
160 pounds? I've seen dudes like in the video, regularly, and some of them on PCP, roughly 160-170, so don't diss 160, like it ain't nothing. Go4It weighs 170, and the women throw him their panties...
home skillet, you dont look like those treemonkey vids you posted, your 5 foot 5 and chubby 160lbs
yet you are a bodybuilding critic
go figure ::)
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home skillet, you dont look like those treemonkey vids you posted, your 5 foot 5 and chubby 160lbs
yet you are a bodybuilding critic
go figure ::)
Hahaha, damn...first I was a skinny 160 pound twink, and now I'm a chubby 160 pounds. Make up your mind.
Hey, I might not be able to draw like Je Madereira, but I can still be a drawing/comc critic.
Your deductive fallacy doesn't fly here..
Just like a 10 yr old pic doesn't either...but your wit and comedic act is welcome.
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How's it a coincidence? Are you saying they alternate the multi Olympia winners based solely on the colour of their skin? That would be a pretty hard trick to pull off in the last forty years of pro bodybuilding!
All it goes to show is that one can be a multi-O winner irrespective of their skin colour. Unlike other sports where skin colour does seem to matter, where the winner is always white (swimming), or black (100m running).
I think he skipped a few guys. There are 12 Mr. Olympia winners. All but three have won the title at least twice.
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I remember reading the interview that ND is referring to. Ronnie said he felt Dorian could not be beaten.
I also recall Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillett, and Kevin Levrone having tremendous respect for Dorian. They at one point or another said Dorian was untouchable (who knows, they may have changed there minds down the road)
So if Flex, Ronnie, Dillett, and Levrone respected Yates, why do guys around here show Dorian so little respect?
I simply don't like his physique, that's it.
Saying I don't like his physique is not equal to showing little respect is it? Saying Ronnie is better is not showing little respect is it?
I know and admit he dominated back in his competitive days and was unbeatable as far as judging criteria, but his physique was awful, horrible arms, not so great quads, etc. Then he got the injuries and bloated gut which made things worse. The guy basically had the muscular size advantage, outstanding conditioning and good balance; that's why he dominated.
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The guys basically had the muscular size advantage, outstanding conditioning and good balance; that's why he dominated.
Sounds like a complete bodybuilder. His legend will grow as we continue on with the Jay era and beyond.
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Sounds like a complete bodybuilder. His legend will grow as we continue on with the Jay era and beyond.
I agree, complete bodybuilder as far as judging criteria.
Complete bodybuilder for me? No.
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This is pure drivel. How do you know what "they" want or didn't want, whoever "they" are?
Ronnie was / is way more popular than Haney ever was, not to mention he'd been looking worse and worse since 2003, which wasn't his best shape, but set a new standard in muscularity. He had too many injuries in 2006 and Jay looked better, which is why the latter won.
Ronnie is more popular because of the internet....
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Ronnie is more popular because of the internet....
True, although his training videos and muscularity also play(ed) a part. Lee was a great bodybuilder, but was never in Ronnie's league - I'm talking in the context of muscularity.
I know Lee retired when he was still young and far from what he could have been, if he'd stayed around and taken Ronnie's stack, but that's beside the point. Ronnie is probably the most popular bodybuilder (among the fans and in the industry) since Arnold.
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Ronnie is more popular because of the internet....
and his catchphrases..
but ronnie is popular because he raised the bar.
people were sick of bloated torn up mess that was dorian.
ronnie was like a breath of fresh air.
finally, a Mr. O. with a tiny waist and great arms again.
Jay lowered the bar though LOL
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He beat a one lat, one armed, Ronnie in 2006. Should have lost 07 and 08. Dominated 2009 and beat Phil this year, pretty clearly. His back is far from "weak."
*fulfilling my one bb related post per month.
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but ronnie is popular because he raised the bar.
I'm sure he raises your "bar" every time you think of him ;D
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and his catchphrases..
but ronnie is popular because he raised the bar.
people were sick of bloated torn up mess that was dorian.
ronnie was like a breath of fresh air.
finally, a Mr. O. with a tiny waist and great arms again.
Jay lowered the bar though LOL
hahahahahaha tiny waist don't forget the bitch tits and 16" calves ;)
Ronnie is more popular because Daminal said the internet , he appeals to a lot of fanboy who don't know the first thing about how contests are judged and think all that matters is big biceps and a narrow waist ;)
Ronnie was a great champion and established himself as one of the best ever if not the best just based on his contests and Olympia titles but he never faced anyone like Dorian and he knows if he did he would have lost to the most dominant IFBB pro ever ;D
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Hahaha, damn...first I was a skinny 160 pound twink, and now I'm a chubby 160 pounds. Make up your mind.
Hey, I might not be able to draw like Je Madereira, but I can still be a drawing/comc critic.
Your deductive fallacy doesn't fly here..
Just like a 10 yr old pic doesn't either...but your wit and comedic act is welcome.
brutal calling me out as a has been
comming from a never been,
new pics comming soon, cuntflap
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brutal calling me out as a has been
commiong from a never been,
new pics omming soon, cuntflap
;D Glad I can oblige you...
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Dorian on Ronnie
Flex Magazine April 09
"He was a tremendous champion. It wasn't just winning contests that separated him from the rest, because what you see onstage is just the end result. It was the way he trained that really made him a legend."
his videos really did make him a legend his training is still unmatched to this day
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I'm sure he raises your "bar" every time you think of him ;D
Hulkster with his hero :-X
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No he won't be mentioned in the same way
to date I think jay deserved one of his titles
and that was 2009
x2
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Jaw got the look down I think that can't be underestimated. I mean he's huge blond square(growing) jaw. He looks hude in photo's if you ignore him being 5 8. People in twenty years won't remember who he competed against they'll remember that him by his photos. As much as I think he looks like a blocky video game character he's the best "face" of the sport.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=114382.0;attach=386407;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=114382.0;attach=386408;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=114382.0;attach=386409;image)
I believe ARNIE1947 is to thank for these
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I believe ARNIE1947 is to thank for these
No one is claiming Dorian had a tiny waist ;)
and this is one area Ronnie beats Dorian hands down ;D
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Hulkster with his hero :-X
The other pic you used to post, of the schmoe looking up at Ronnie up close, mouth agape and smiling, was even funnier LOL
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The other pic you used to post, of the schmoe looking up at Ronnie up close, mouth agape and smiling, was even funnier LOL
;D :-X
Hulkster gets excited what can you say? :-X
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;D :-X
Hulkster gets excited what can you say? :-X
That's the one, LMAO!
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That's the one, LMAO!
hehehehehehe
best post is someone said Ronnie doesn't want you for a fan