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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Meso_z on October 08, 2010, 12:34:04 AM
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Guys i have a problem lately.
I run 250 test a week right now - came off from a 1000mg test and dbol cycle.
My problem is that my balls seem "atrophied", as if i took a shower in cold water you know, my cock is "soft" most of the times and cant get it hard enough.
WTF..this has 1-2 months that is happening.
I did a hcg course for 4 weeks 500ui e3d, stopped 2 weeks ago. My balls are still the same. erection seems worse (?).
any help..? :-X
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You need to run hcg on your entire cycle. What brand of hcg are you using?...if your using test you shouldn't be totally limp dick
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You need to run hcg on your entire cycle. What brand of hcg are you using?...if your using test you shouldn't be totally limp dick
I did Schering straight from the pharmacy.
Ive thought of giving it another try with hcg but Im worried about desensation (sp?) ... :-\
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If your so worried why don't you come off and post with hcg and clomid and let your nuts get back to normal
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Maybe shouldve hit harder with HCG. Couple higher doses to start.
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Here is more proof that HCG does not bring back your balls. I think you probably just need more time. Keep running the HCG. Desensitization comes from heavy dosing, not frequency of use. 500iu e3d is what you need to run. Add some clomid in there also and that will help bring your balls back.
Did you taper down your dose when you came off the cycle? I am also on TRT and when coming off of a cycle I have to taper the dose down otherwise I crash pretty hard.
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Here is more proof that HCG does not bring back your balls. I think you probably just need more time. Keep running the HCG. Desensitization comes from heavy dosing, not frequency of use. 500iu e3d is what you need to run. Add some clomid in there also and that will help bring your balls back.
Did you taper down your dose when you came off the cycle? I am also on TRT and when coming off of a cycle I have to taper the dose down otherwise I crash pretty hard.
I agree. I had some similar trouble about 2yrs ago.
Do you think a short, maybe 10 day run of a higher dose of HCG and clomid might help him? Seemed to help me. I'm thinking maybe a 7-10 day run of HCG, high dose, followed by lower dose for a few wks. What do you think?
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I agree. I had some similar trouble about 2yrs ago.
Do you think a short, maybe 10 day run of a higher dose of HCG and clomid might help him? Seemed to help me. I'm thinking maybe a 7-10 day run of HCG, high dose, followed by lower dose for a few wks. What do you think?
Here is more proof that HCG does not bring back your balls. I think you probably just need more time. Keep running the HCG. Desensitization comes from heavy dosing, not frequency of use. 500iu e3d is what you need to run. Add some clomid in there also and that will help bring your balls back.
Did you taper down your dose when you came off the cycle? I am also on TRT and when coming off of a cycle I have to taper the dose down otherwise I crash pretty hard.
So after 4 weeks of hcg at 500ui e3d, stopped this course 2 weeks now. Youre saying i should do another course but harder + clomid?
note that im not comming "off" anytime soon.. just cruise 250 and blast with 1grm.
what about my erection issues? will some proviron help...maybe viarga or cialis.
shit and im only 21. ;D :-X :-[
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So after 4 weeks of hcg at 500ui e3d, stopped this course 2 weeks now. Youre saying i should do another course but harder + clomid?
note that im not comming "off" anytime soon.. just cruise 250 and blast with 1grm.
what about my erection issues? will some proviron help...maybe viarga or cialis.
shit and im only 21. ;D :-X :-[
Had the same problem bro, add clomid with the HCG and keep it for a while
your erection issues should stop after a while on those 2 (at least it did for me)
I still take a cialis from time to times
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Had the same problem bro, add clomid with the HCG and keep it for a while
your erection issues should stop after a while on those 2 (at least it did for me)
I still take a cialis from time to times
How do i dose clomid? thanks man 8)
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Clomid 25mg ed for 3 weeks, and HCG 500iu e3d. I run HCG all the time. Every now and then I take a break from the HCG. HCG will stop your balls from atrophy only when used from the very start of using hormones. Once the atrophy has set in the only thing I know that will blow them back is time off and clomid.
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Clomid 25mg ed for 3 weeks, and HCG 500iu e3d. I run HCG all the time. Every now and then I take a break from the HCG. HCG will stop your balls from atrophy only when used from the very start of using hormones. Once the atrophy has set in the only thing I know that will blow them back is time off and clomid.
I am doing the same exept I use 50mg of clomid a day
a well known trainer at a buddy of mine do 200mg a day :o
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I'm 21 too bro...I feel at our age its important to take breaks and return to homeostasis. But to each his own...like I said your better off staying on a low dose of hcg throughout your whole cycle..throw in some clomid...what's your reason for not coming off?
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Clomid 25mg ed for 3 weeks, and HCG 500iu e3d. I run HCG all the time. Every now and then I take a break from the HCG. HCG will stop your balls from atrophy only when used from the very start of using hormones. Once the atrophy has set in the only thing I know that will blow them back is time off and clomid.
would it hurt though?
with all the hcg i run few weeks ago..
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I'm 21 too bro...I feel at our age its important to take breaks and return to homeostasis. But to each his own...like I said your better off staying on a low dose of hcg throughout your whole cycle..throw in some clomid...what's your reason for not coming off?
I know it's better to take breaks
I just can't do it.
when I do I feel like shit, the training is good even if I don't juice but mentally I just feel like shit
I am a slave to the drugs :(
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I kno it sucks dude but you got to be positive and mentally strong
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would it hurt though?
with all the hcg i run few weeks ago..
I don't understand the question bro?
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I know it's better to take breaks
I just can't do it.
when I do I feel like shit, the training is good even if I don't juice but mentally I just feel like shit
I am a slave to the drugs :(
...and then when the slave master takes all yours away, it is no fun...trust me, it's miserable. Life without steroids, when you know, when you've experienced it, without it is hard on your mental state. It's like eating steak all your life and then only having soggy bread to eat. If all you'd ever had was soggy bread you probably wouldn't cared, but if you've tasted steak...well, if you ever have your steak taken you'd probably have been better off never having it in the first place.
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I don't understand the question bro?
I was trying to say, wouldnt it hurt using hcg again since I already used it for 4 weeks recently?
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...and then when the slave master takes all yours away, it is no fun...trust me, it's miserable. Life without steroids, when you know, when you've experienced it, without it is hard on your mental state. It's like eating steak all your life and then only having soggy bread to eat. If all you'd ever had was soggy bread you probably wouldn't cared, but if you've tasted steak...well, if you ever have your steak taken you'd probably have been better off never having it in the first place.
Yeah I wih I had never tried roids but I did so !
And that's the only way to look how I want to look in the first place.
But when people ask me at the gym, what should they do for a first cycle, nothing strong because it will be their only cycle.
I always say: think carefully about this because there is no "only 1 cycle".
when you start, and you get off, the first thing you start to think is when you will start something again
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I was trying to say, wouldnt it hurt using hcg again since I already used it for 4 weeks recently?
Refresh my memory, what dose of hcg did you use?
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Refresh my memory, what dose of hcg did you use?
500ui e3d.. for 4-5 weeks..
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500ui e3d.. for 4-5 weeks..
You can run that dose for a very long time with out the worry of desensitization. 500iu 2xew, or e3d is the recommended dose. This dose was not just made up, many studies have been run on this dose. Read Dr. John Crislers HCG protocol I posted on here. It has been revised, but is still using the same amount of HCG.
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I agree. I had some similar trouble about 2yrs ago.
Do you think a short, maybe 10 day run of a higher dose of HCG and clomid might help him? Seemed to help me. I'm thinking maybe a 7-10 day run of HCG, high dose, followed by lower dose for a few wks. What do you think?
I think if he was to run this way and then run another PCT he would probably kick start his HTPA back up. Still, full recovery will take some time.
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You can run that dose for a very long time with out the worry of desensitization. 500iu 2xew, or e3d is the recommended dose. This dose was not just made up, many studies have been run on this dose. Read Dr. John Crislers HCG protocol I posted on here. It has been revised, but is still using the same amount of HCG.
ok im gonna use 500ui's e3d along with 25mg clomid for couple of weeks and see if i get better...i will report back.
thanks guys.
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let me know how this works for you.
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yes, let us know about your testicles and erections (no homo)
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yes, let us know about your testicles and erections (no homo)
:D
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yes, let us know about your testicles and erections (no homo)
Haha LMAO true get big fashion.
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guys, would it hurt to up the test to 500 and do the hcg+clomid i was talking about?
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guys, would it hurt to up the test to 500 and do the hcg+clomid i was talking about?
It will shut you down again. Your sex drive will probably come back up, but you wont be recovering.
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I will get a blood work soon and if everything is good im gonna stay on but now my balls are wayy to small..piss me off when a girl keep playing with them,im like hey they have been through some hardcore shit these past months fucking let them rest please..haha.. soon im going to do 1000ius hcg e5d, I saw a study somewhere saying that e5d is the best timeframe for our purpose..and also nolva for 4-5 weeks will report soon on the increase in size of my balls :D zero problems with erections..and if you do, try 20mg cialis+100mg viagra, tried it on cycle, you get so pumped up it hurts lol.no joke
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balls still the same, slight improvement :'(. 7 weeks off...
I was thinking of doing one more time a course of hcg and clomid for 3 weeks. is it a good idea?
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do not take clomid NEVER. Take HCG and Tamoxifen or just HCG and you balls will be back to normal in no time.
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do not take clomid NEVER. Take HCG and Tamoxifen or just HCG and you balls will be back to normal in no time.
why..?
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do not take clomid NEVER. Take HCG and Tamoxifen or just HCG and you balls will be back to normal in no time.
You have to find what works for you.
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I don't think you should hcg because it can shut you down even more...your better off running some clomid by itself for 3 or 4 weeks..7 weeks isn't very long after coming off. It can take several months to get back to normal..what was your cycle and pct?
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Update (not that anyone cares ;D)
4 months off everything
bloodwork today came
free test 68.00 pg/ml
FSH 3.0 mIU/ml
LH 3.1 mIU/ml
liver enzymes are back to normal (first time in 3 yrs).
everything else is excellent (hdl, ldl etc..).
testicles are still atrophied, i guess i cant really do anything about that.
erections... "ok" :-\
libido and sex drive in generall... at my worst. :-\
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that's fucked up bro.
seriously I can take 2g of test andhave zero libido, now I take tren and EQ with no test at all andI want to fuck all the time.
my testicles look like 2 peanuts tho (no homo)
what did the doctor say ?
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that's fucked up bro.
seriously I can take 2g of test andhave zero libido, now I take tren and EQ with no test at all andI want to fuck all the time.
my testicles look like 2 peanuts tho (no homo)
what did the doctor say ?
He said they were in the normal range but a bit supressed for my age...
Anyway, in 2 weeks im back on.
living the dream baby. :D
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He said they were in the normal range but a bit supressed for my age...
Anyway, in 2 weeks im back on.
living the dream baby. :D
2g deca per week !
boom !
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2g deca per week !
boom !
its going to be
1 g test
400 deca
sdrol
or im gonna try
1g deca
250 test
sdrol
I havent decided yet
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8)
I love sdrol
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I love sdrol
Hey this thread is about my testicles and not sdrol. >:(
hahah.. ;D
First time im going to try sdrol...its primordial performance superdrone, ive heard good reviews of this clone..
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Hey this thread is about my testicles and not sdrol. >:(
hahah.. ;D
First time im going to try sdrol...its primordial performance superdrone, ive heard good reviews of this clone..
that is a testicles clone, quite good testicles ! ;D
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superdrol is harshhhhhh
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superdrol is harshhhhhh
it is! but shits works, mr.supps= approved
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I'm going through this right now...running HCG and waiting for my balls to grow
I think I'll have to source some clomid becasue they are showing no signs of life. Oh and btw im 22 lol...we suck guys
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I'm going through this right now...running HCG and waiting for my balls to grow
I think I'll have to source some clomid becasue they are showing no signs of life. Oh and btw im 22 lol...we suck guys
We lived the dream and definately payed for it. ;D
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living the dream bros !!! ;D
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testicles=natural test production=overrated
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testicles=natural test production=overrated
Unless you're in your early 20's and plan on having little dudes at some point
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Unless you're in your early 20's and plan on having little dudes at some point
it's all about the testicles bro