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Title: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 11, 2010, 03:39:22 PM
2013 Lotus Esprit

what say you?
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2010, 03:52:11 PM
I had a  Twin TurboLotus Esprit for 4 years.  I miss it everyday.
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2010, 04:00:20 PM
I think the new one is not a good succesor to Colin Chapman`s legacy and token car.  Who really wants another Gallardo type car.  The Esprit used to be a great Touring Sports Car with a racecar feel, yet elegant enough to drive around town.  It seems to be losing its "Noblity" with the new design.
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 11, 2010, 04:01:26 PM
I had a  Twin TurboLotus Esprit for 4 years.  I miss it everyday.

with a V8? those were underrated cars
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: claymore on October 11, 2010, 04:15:26 PM
Ain't got shit on this ride... ;)

Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: MAXX on October 11, 2010, 04:15:56 PM
I had a  Twin TurboLotus Esprit for 4 years.  I miss it everyday.
That's a really nice car. Always wanted one of those.

What year model was yours?

I find them somewhat overpriced though.

Get a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4. Cheap sportscar nice to look at and nice to drive. I prefer the first generation 91-93.

Some 3KGT's

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/arcaenus/4749648808_1db8538699_b.jpg)
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 11, 2010, 04:18:58 PM
Ain't got shit on this ride... ;)


Dodge PPG Wraith
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: BIG DUB on October 11, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
Ain't got shit on this ride... ;)



Jake! Jake! Jamieeeeee!
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2010, 08:15:57 PM
Ain't got shit on this ride... ;)



the wraith

kickass movie
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: SgtSpar on October 11, 2010, 08:26:36 PM
Paker?
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 11, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
That's a really nice car. Always wanted one of those.

What year model was yours?

I find them somewhat overpriced though.

Get a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4. Cheap sportscar nice to look at and nice to drive. I prefer the first generation 91-93.

Some 3KGT's

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/arcaenus/4749648808_1db8538699_b.jpg)

I had one of those for a few years. Absolute rocket ship!!!! Almost killed me a couple of times  :-\
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: Skeletor on October 11, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Great design and good choice of powertrain but most of the proposed future models are just too heavy for a Lotus.. Lightness has always been the Lotus trademark. Regardless I think they'll all be fantastic to drive (and look at).
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: Parker on October 11, 2010, 10:25:14 PM
2013 Lotus Esprit

what say you?
Me likey, apparently it will be using a Twin Turbo version of the Lexus IS-F engine, or it will use the LF-A's....I forgot, it might be the mid engine Elan that will get the IS-F's 5.0 V8 and the Esprit that gets the LF-A's V10. I say this because they have a engine agreement with Toyota, that is why the Elise has a 1.8 liter 4 cylinder and the Evora has the 3.5 liter V6.

Lotus' are known for their light weight and handling, but they tend to be the middle of the pack supercars...
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: lm on October 12, 2010, 04:00:53 AM
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/kawasaki/2011-kawasaki-zx10r-unveiled-90012.html
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: BIG ACH on October 12, 2010, 06:11:44 AM

(http://www.lotusespritturbo.com/James_Bond_Lotus_Esprit_Turbo.jpg)
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: BIG ACH on October 12, 2010, 07:06:36 AM
That's a really nice car. Always wanted one of those.

What year model was yours?

I find them somewhat overpriced though.

Get a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4. Cheap sportscar nice to look at and nice to drive. I prefer the first generation 91-93.

Some 3KGT's

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/arcaenus/4749648808_1db8538699_b.jpg)


Thats the one car that I wish I had owned at some point in my life.  beautiful car!
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: dr.chimps on October 12, 2010, 07:13:30 AM
Ah, but does it come equipped with the underwater package, or is that extra?
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: 240 is Back on October 12, 2010, 07:18:02 AM
no car will ever compare to the first beast I drove
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 12, 2010, 07:19:46 AM
at least they are back to making cars



weren't they putting out mid-priced roadsters for a while there a few years ago..........i remember my friend had one, it was awful

and he thought he was the shit....he bought it used for like 30 grand or so........i think it was only 47K brand new

(http://www.diecastmodelswholesale.com/catalog/e84b_1.JPG)
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Skeletor on October 12, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
at least they are back to making cars



weren't they putting out mid-priced roadsters for a while there a few years ago..........i remember my friend had one, it was awful

and he thought he was the shit.
...he bought it used for like 30 grand or so........i think it was only 47K brand new

(http://www.diecastmodelswholesale.com/catalog/e84b_1.JPG)

You're talking about the Elise?  :o

Lotus making a profit and selling more cars (even if some are heavier and more luxurious) is good but if they lose overall their trademark lightness and driving dynamics they won't be able to compete with other manufacturers.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Tre on October 12, 2010, 09:29:09 AM

Although not in the Lotus market, we are planning to get into the lottery for a 2012 Mustang Boss 302. 

If that doesn't work out, we'll likely go for a 2011 Shelby Cobra. 

(http://shelbygt500forsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/shelby%20gt500%20for%20sale,%20shelby%20gt%20500%20for%20sale,%20mustangs%20for%20sale,%20classic%20mustangs%20for%20sale-309601904245638900.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: epic_alien on October 12, 2010, 10:29:15 AM
lotus is a ford,
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: tu_holmes on October 12, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
lotus is a ford,

Actually, I don't think it is any longer.

Ford sold their stake in it to a company called "Proton" I think... At least that's what I thought.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 11:03:44 AM
Actually, I don't think it is any longer.

Ford sold their stake in it to a company called "Proton" I think... At least that's what I thought.
Lotus used to use Ford engines in their F1 cars, but they never really produced any cars for Ford (that I know of). Lotus also would do  R&D work for other car companies, for instance they developed the LT5 engine in the ZR-1. Wikipedia says that GM acquired Lotus in 1986 (I didn't know that)...odd how Lotus was still using 4 cylinder engines in it's Esprit, while the Corvette got a nice engine---there must have been some type of agreement.   
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: noworries on October 12, 2010, 12:03:31 PM
(http://www.lotusespritturbo.com/James_Bond_Lotus_Esprit_Turbo.jpg)

$1400 for that windshield to be replaced back in the 70's.  My mom wanted one until she found out it was fiberglass. Ended up with a new 280Z
Title: Re: For Paker
Post by: Croatch on October 12, 2010, 12:09:20 PM
the wraith

kickass movie
Can't say I didn't crack one off to Sheryln Flynn, when I was @13.  Damn hot.
I remember when C cups used to look big to the Croatch.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: The True Adonis on October 12, 2010, 01:26:50 PM
$1400 for that windshield to be replaced back in the 70's.  My mom wanted one until she found out it was fiberglass. Ended up with a new 280Z
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)
You are incorrect the Esprit S3s -which is what is pictured were made out of fiberglass.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: The True Adonis on October 12, 2010, 01:43:54 PM
You are incorrect the Esprit S1 and the S2s, which is what is pictured were made out of fiberglass.
After the Peter Stevens redesign all models of Esprit were Kevlar reinforced.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: The True Adonis on October 12, 2010, 01:45:18 PM


http://www.lotusespritworld.com/EOtherstuff/VARI.html
VARI Process
by Lotus World Magazine
(no connection with Lotus Esprit World)

With the introduction of the new Stevens' body shape in 1987, a new process was introducted to make the GRP body. This is now formed by the VARI process (Vacuum Assisted Resin Injection). This offers many advantages over traditional hand lay-up but the most significant gain is that up to six bodies a day can be produced from one set of mould tools.

The process begins in the conventional way by coating a female mould with gelcoat. But instead of laying up with reinforcement material and resin, just the dry reinforcement material is positioned on the mould surface along with any polyurethane foam formers that are to be incorporated into the structure. In the case of the Esprit, much of this reinforcement is in the form of CFM (Continuous Filament Mat) but in specific areas woven glass material is employed.

To provide the necessary high strength for roll-over protection, Kevlar reinforcement is used for the roof pillars and sides and, to create a stiff torsion box in each sill, foam inserts are placed into the mould, wrapped in glass CFM. With all the reinforcement materials in place, an inner male mould with an air tight seal around its periphery is brought down under the female mould and bolted into place.

Now the Polyester resin matrix material can be added. A vacuum is applied and this draws resin into the mould cavity from several points. The resin is injected under low pressure and the whole process takes anything from several minutes for a small panel to about an hour for a bodyshell upper or lower half. The vacuum not only draws resin into the laminate evenly, but also clamps the two together.

Because the whole operation takes far less time than a hand lay-up process, faster curing times can be implemented and bodies released from the mould tools much sooner, thus allowing a quicker start to be made on the next car. Curing takes place at room temperature.

Other bonuses are a reduction in labour costs, and more uniform laminate thickness.

The Esprit bodyshell is moulded in two halves – the floor section/lower body, and the upper bodywork. Once released from the mould tools, these halves are joined together using a epoxide structural adhesive on the overlapping joint along the waistline of the car. This joint is reinforced in specific areas on the inside by overbonding with glass cloth. Finally, the bodyshell is painted, using two-pack polyurethane paint, and cured in the oven at 80°C.

Once bolted together, the body and chassis create a structure with almost double the torsional stiffness of the basic backbone chassis.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: tallgerman on October 12, 2010, 01:46:31 PM
cars getn small eh?

need soemthing lil bigger
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: noworries on October 12, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)

Back in the 70's I think it was fiberglass
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 01:58:49 PM
After the Peter Stevens redesign all models of Esprit were Kevlar reinforced.  Hope this helps.
You were still incorrect, due to what was pictured and you not stating that. Also Kevlar reinforced does not mean the the body itself was made entirely of Kevlar panels. For instance, the F40 used Kevlar and Carbonfiber, the XJ15 used and entirely Carbonfiber body and I believe the tub as well.

Per your article Kevlar is used to reinforced the pillars and sides, body still made out of a Polymer/glass fiber. Per your comment, you said that the car was made out of Kevlar...

Being used to reinforce the pillars and being made entirely out of Kevlar are two entirely diff things, hope this helps.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: The True Adonis on October 12, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
You were still incorrect, due to what was pictured and you not stating that. Also Kevlar reinforced does not mean the the body itself was made entirely of Kevlar panels. For instance, the F40 used Kevlar and Carbonfiber, the XJ15 used and entirely Carbonfiber body and I believe the tub as well.

Per your article Kevlar is used to reinforced the pillars and sides, body still made out of a Polymer/glass fiber. Per your comment, you said that the car was made out of Kevlar...

Being used to reinforce the pillars and being made entirely out of Kevlar are two entirely diff things, hope this helps.

::)  I owned one and you didn`t.  ;)
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 02:12:26 PM
::)  I owned one and you didn`t.  ;)
Didnt you say you owned a Europa, and not a Esprit? You still were incorrect in what you said, as this was about the Esprit, and owning a Esprit or a Europa is no big deal. Esprits were known as the VW of supercar world, and you can pick up a aesthetically ugly Europa for cheap now, or the Esprit. Plagued with problems, they had trannies suspension systems from Renault and other cheap manufacturers. Also terrible British electronics. My aunt back in the day used to date a dude with a Europa, she called it ugly. He had said that the 944 she was going to get wouldn't amount to anything, yet it handled far better than the Europa and became a classic for Porsche.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: daddy8ball on October 12, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
Getbigger car right here...stick shift plus 8 track..didn't listen to 8 track so kept condoms in there. One time a date looked in there and found my condoms. They were blue. From then on she called me "Big Blue". Good times.

(http://img.metblogs.com/la/files/2008/11/img_1171.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 02:18:48 PM
Getbigger car right here...stick shift plus 8 track..didn't listen to 8 track so kept condoms in there. One time a date looked in there and found my condoms. They were blue. From then on she called me "Big Blue". Good times.

(http://img.metblogs.com/la/files/2008/11/img_1171.jpg)

Ahhh, some cars you just can't forget.
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2010, 02:23:24 PM
Ahhh, some cars you just can't forget.

some you should  :-X
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 02:26:12 PM
some you should  :-X
My  car, which was nicknamed "Birth Control"
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Option D on October 12, 2010, 02:27:22 PM
whatever...this is what i drive

i call him kitt
Title: Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2010, 02:31:48 PM
whatever...this is what i drive

i call him kitt
Bet you pick up a lot of Katts...er, "Michael, Michael, that was a very bad joke, ejector seat engaged"