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A Shovel-Unready President
By Jonah Goldberg
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Back in early 2009, President-elect Barack Obama was asked on Meet the Press how quickly he could create jobs. Oh, very fast, he said. He'd already consulted with a gaggle of governors, and "all of them have projects that are shovel-ready." When Obama revealed the members of his energy team, he explained that they were part of his effort to get started on "shovel-ready projects all across the country." When he unveiled his education secretary, he assured everyone that he was going to get started "helping states and local governments with shovel-ready projects."
In interviews, job summits, and press conferences, it was shovel-ready this, shovel-ready that. Search the White House website for the term "shovel-ready" and you'll drown in press releases about all the shovels ready to shove shovel-ready projects into the 21st century, where no shovel is left behind.
Only now it turns out that the president was shoveling something all right when he was talking about shovel-ready jobs - a whole pile of steaming something.
In the current issue of The New York Times Magazine, Obama admits that there's "no such thing as shovel-ready" when it comes to public works.
It's not that Obama was lying when he said all that stuff. It's just that he didn't know what he was talking about. All it took was nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus money and 20-plus months of on-the-job training for him to discover that he was talking nonsense.
It seems to me that, if I were president, and I not only staked vast swaths of my credibility but gambled the prosperity of the country generally on this concept of "shovel-ready jobs," I might be a bit miffed with the staffers who swore that shovel-ready jobs were, like, you know, a real thing.
And yet, if you read Peter Baker's Obama profile, it's clear that Obama isn't mad about that. In fact, he still thinks he got all the policies right. Baker writes that Obama is "supremely sure that he is right," it's just that the president feels he didn't market himself well.
"Given how much stuff was coming at us," Obama explains, "we probably spent much more time trying to get the policy right than trying to get the politics right. There is probably a perverse pride in my administration - and I take responsibility for this; this was blowing from the top - that we were going to do the right thing, even if short-term it was unpopular. And I think anybody who's occupied this office has to remember that success is determined by an intersection in policy and politics and that you can't be neglecting of marketing and PR and public opinion."
This is an old progressive lament: Our product is perfect, we just didn't sell it convincingly to the rubes.
But wait a second. If they spent "much more time trying to get the policy right," how come nobody said, "Uh, Mr. President, these ‘shovel-ready jobs' you keep talking about? They're sort of like good flan - they don't exist."
Let's not dwell on such things. Besides, Obama has already said that his problems come from "neglecting marketing and PR and public opinion." Indeed, that, and only that, explains why people think he looks like "the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat."
The only problem with that: facts. Obama's health-care plan raises taxes on Americans (though Obama says this is not so, they're merely mandatory fees and premiums) and will cost trillions. He wants to raise taxes on "the rich" - defined so that a cop married to a nurse might well count as rich - and on small businesses.
Meanwhile, Washington is now spending 23 percent more than it did two years ago. As the Washington Post recently editorialized, Congress's "emergency" bailout to avoid "a teachers crisis" was a fraud to simply transfer billions to the teachers' unions in advance of the midterms.
And then, of course, there's the stimulus that paid for all of those "shovel-ready jobs" that Obama now admits never existed. Los Angeles County deployed $111 million in stimulus money to "save" 55 jobs at the cost of $2 million apiece. The White House has spent $192 million on road signs that brag about how the construction delays ahead were paid for by the stimulus. Meanwhile, unemployment is a full three percentage points higher during Obama's "recovery" than it was during the "worst recession since the Great Depression."
Maybe it's unfair for people to think Obama is just another tax-and-spend Democrat. After all, some tax-and-spend Democrats are actually competent at it.
www.realclearpolitics.co m
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Who would have guess? Those of us who warned you clowns from day 1 were right again.
Fucking losers.
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In the current issue of The New York Times Magazine, Obama admits that there's "no such thing as shovel-ready" when it comes to public works.
It's not that Obama was lying when he said all that stuff. It's just that he didn't know what he was talking about. All it took was nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus money and 20-plus months of on-the-job training for him to discover that he was talking nonsense.
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Hope & Change!
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David Brooks: Obama told me “shovel-ready” was a crock…a year ago
MichelleMalkin.com ^ | 10/16/10 | Michelle Malkin
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How much of a tool is New York Times columnist David Brooks?
This much: On the PBS NewsHour last night, Brooks admitted that President Obama told him a year ago that he knew that the “shovel-ready project” propaganda he employed to pass the massive porkulus bill was a steaming load of bullcrap.
Brooks’ New York Times colleague Peter Baker reported the newsworthy admission in an upcoming Sunday magazine piece. It’s an admission that received much deserved attention here in the blogosphere this week and that invited much deserved derision from Republican critics of the stimulus boondoggle.
Why didn’t Brooks report Obama’s damning admission sooner? In another serving of steaming bullcrap, he claims it’s because Baker was more skilled at getting Obama to talk on the record. Seems to me the real reason Brooks didn’t report it is because he had his nose so far up his bromance love object’s you-know-what that he didn’t see the scoop dropped right in his lap.
Transcript:
SNIP
DAVID BROOKS: Yes. Well, I shouldn’t have confessed this. He said this to me off the record about a year ago. But it hasn’t…
JIM LEHRER: Off the record? So, then you can’t talk about it.
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DAVID BROOKS: Yes, because Peter Baker is a better than I am, because I couldn’t get him to go on the record with that thing.
(LAUGHTER)
JIM LEHRER: He said this to you a year ago?
DAVID BROOKS: It was obvious. I mean, you are trying to build a stimulus package. And when they were trying to build it, believe me, they would have loved to have filled it with infrastructure jobs. But the projects just didn’t exist. They couldn’t do it. They couldn’t find them.
(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...
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would love to hear from the uber stimulus shill that is 240 on this bull shit...
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would love to hear from the uber stimulus shill that is 240 on this bull shit...
Just look at blackens' response to me in the other one and you will get a good idea. That jerkoff still won't even come clean on his stealing others posts and trying to pass them off as his own without attribution.
These shills are a fucking joke and should just off themselves already.
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333386, saving the world on getbig ,one post at a time
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Blacken = "I can't support a damn thing coming from the hacks i have shilled for for the last three years so I attack others personally without making an argument"
Good job fool - how do you even have the balls to post here any more after getting caught lying, stealing, and plagiarizing time and time again? Have you no shame at all?
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i just can't imagine sitting in front of the computer all day on the getbig forum,go outside and do something, have some fun
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333 - I actually watched your videos and I don't see Obama making any such statements (i.e. no shovel ready jobs)
do you have anything such as a video of Obama saying this or direct quote from him (in context)
all I see are quotes from other people making this claim
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333 - I actually watched your videos and I don't see Obama making any such statements (i.e. no shovel ready jobs)
do you have anything such as a video of Obama saying this or direct quote from him (in context)
all I see are quotes from other people making this claim
Its in the NYT expose. i'll post the link since the article is too long to post.
Here it is. Its long - but a good article.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/president-obama-looks-forward-and-back/
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Its in the NYT expose. i'll post the link since the article is too long to post.
Here it is. Its long - but a good article.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/president-obama-looks-forward-and-back/
is there a quote in there where Obama says this?
if so, please find it and post it
thanks
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is there a quote in there where Obama says this?
if so, please find it and post it
thanks
This is the article - sorry about the last post - this is whe whole thing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all
I'll find the exact quote.
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While proud of his record, Obama has already begun thinking about what went wrong — and what he needs to do to change course for the next two years. He has spent what one aide called “a lot of time talking about Obama 2.0” with his new interim chief of staff, Pete Rouse, and his deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina. During our hour together, Obama told me he had no regrets about the broad direction of his presidency. But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” He realized too late that “there’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects” when it comes to public works. Perhaps he should not have proposed tax breaks as part of his stimulus and instead “let the Republicans insist on the tax cuts” so it could be seen as a bipartisan compromise.
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The author uses quotes and so far the WH has not denied the article or quote.
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While proud of his record, Obama has already begun thinking about what went wrong — and what he needs to do to change course for the next two years. He has spent what one aide called “a lot of time talking about Obama 2.0” with his new interim chief of staff, Pete Rouse, and his deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina. During our hour together, Obama told me he had no regrets about the broad direction of his presidency. But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” He realized too late that “there’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects” when it comes to public works. Perhaps he should not have proposed tax breaks as part of his stimulus and instead “let the Republicans insist on the tax cuts” so it could be seen as a bipartisan compromise.
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The author uses quotes and so far the WH has not denied the article or quote.
so no actual quote from Obama?
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so no actual quote from Obama?
He realized too late that “there’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects” when it comes to public works.
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Wow. Indefensible. Sounds like outright lying to justifying the "stimulus." :-\
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Wow. Indefensible. Sounds like outright lying to justifying the "stimulus." :-\
I want to hear 240's spin on this for a laugh.
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Hey Straw - what about Brooks' comment?
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would love to hear from the uber stimulus shill that is 240 on this bull shit...
It's a shame that so many GOP governors failed to have the jobs ready when Obama gave them all that money. Squandering the funds, just to see him fail, really hurts all of us.
;D
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Wow. Indefensible.
Agreed. Governors like Jindal with his "Jobs Jobs Jobs" program - using that obama federal $ to employ people in his state - while at the same time criticizing a sitting US President during wartime...
Indefensible. You're right.
;D hahahahahaha spin is so much fun
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Agreed. Governors like Jindal with his "Jobs Jobs Jobs" program - using that obama federal $ to employ people in his stage - while at the same time criticizing a sitting US President during wartime...
Indefensible. You're right.
Spoken like a true liberal lapdog.
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He realized too late that “there’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects” when it comes to public works.
that was a direct quote from Obama to the author of the article?
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Agreed. Governors like Jindal with his "Jobs Jobs Jobs" program - using that obama federal $ to employ people in his state - while at the same time criticizing a sitting US President during wartime...
Indefensible. You're right.
;D hahahahahaha spin is so much fun
I should have guessed.
240 - "i am a libertarian" - ha ha ha.
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Spoken like a true liberal lapdog.
Jindal's not a lapdog, he's just toeing the party line because he has ambitions of being a VP selection down the road.
I can't fault him for that - more misguided than anything else.
(http://www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/leonj/leonpsy16/spin-arrows.gif)
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that was a direct quote from Obama to the author of the article?
Yes, and David Brooks, a fan of Obama, said Obama told him the same exact thing over a year ago and the whole thing was a ruse to sell the Stim Bill - did you watch the clip or read the transcript I posted?
So now we have two people saying Obama told them this and you somehow are still in complete denial. Go figure.
Same as with obama telling the NASA Admn to focus as his No. 1 priority muslim outreach. The far left dolts believe Obama over a hero like Bolden for some odd reason.
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Jindal's not a lapdog, he's just toeing the party line because he has ambitions of being a VP selection down the road.
I can't fault him for that - more misguided than anything else.
(http://www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/leonj/leonpsy16/spin-arrows.gif)
Right. Being a liberal lapdop yourself, you'd know all about that.
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I should have guessed.
240 - "i am a libertarian" - ha ha ha.
you know I dont take any of this shit seriously man. I was prepped for SHTF since 06. When you were paying obama era prices for your straps, i was cleaning mine, bought cheap as the AWB ended in 04. I know more about foreign currency than USD lol...
so really, this is just entertainment. I dont' get mad when beach bum calls me a lapdog, cause I know he is laughing too. He's a funny looking dude lol! The mirror amuses him from minute 1 of the day, and he's just having fun on getbig too!
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Jindal's not a lapdog, he's just toeing the party line because he has ambitions of being a VP selection down the road.
I can't fault him for that - more misguided than anything else.
So now you have to drag Jindle in this. Amazing you did bring Palin up yet.
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So now you have to drag Jindle in this. Amazing you did bring Palin up yet.
your article talked about the failure of governors to have these jobs ready.
But I recall Jindal with a big sign "jobs jobs jobs", spending up that obama money to keep ppl in his state employed.
You, me, and a few other getbiggers who don't smoke weed just happen to be the most emotional dudes on the poli board lol
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your article talked about the failure of governors to have these jobs ready.
But I recall Jindal with a big sign "jobs jobs jobs", spending up that obama money to keep ppl in his state employed.
You, me, and a few other getbiggers who don't smoke weed just happen to be the most emotional dudes on the poli board lol
Its not emotion - its cold hard fact. I called the Stim Bill a disaster before it was passed and have been proven right. You still have no manned up on that even though you were supposed to back in august.
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Its not emotion - its cold hard fact. I called the Stim Bill a disaster before it was passed and have been proven right. You still have no manned up on that even though you were supposed to back in august.
i already admitted more of it failed than succeeded - thus it was a failure. that was like 6 weeks ago bro.
however, i have very high standards. Bush failed miserably on his own iraq war metrics, and most 'lapdogs' here declared it an awesome win - 7 years and 4000 lives and 2 trillion bucks later.
So maybe, just maybe, if the stim bill succeeds and returns the UE rate to 8% - only it takes 7 years and kills 4000 people and costs 2 trillion bucks - maybe THEN you will consider it a SUCCESS *using your own Iraq war benchmarks*
Me, I'll stay consistent - high standards. it didn't meet the timeline - FAIL.
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Yes, and David Brooks, a fan of Obama, said Obama told him the same exact thing over a year ago and the whole thing was a ruse to sell the Stim Bill - did you watch the clip or read the transcript I posted?
So now we have two people saying Obama told them this and you somehow are still in complete denial. Go figure.
Same as with obama telling the NASA Admn to focus as his No. 1 priority muslim outreach. The far left dolts believe Obama over a hero like Bolden for some odd reason.
Obama said it was a "ruse"
where's that quote
btw - I don't have a problem if this claim of no shovel ready jobs was a realization after the fact but if it was intentional ruse as you say, then that's different.
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DAVID BROOKS: It was obvious. I mean, you are trying to build a stimulus package. And when they were trying to build it, believe me, they would have loved to have filled it with infrastructure jobs. But the projects just didn’t exist. They couldn’t do it. They couldn’t find them.
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So obama goes across the nation with the speeches I posted above KNOWING that these projects are all nonsense to sell the stupid Stim Bill and we are supposed to believe that only after the fact obama realized this? Please.
Same bs, different bill and issue.
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33,
will you apply the same standards/benchmarks for success to the Stim, as you did the Iraq war?
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33,
will you apply the same standards/benchmarks for success to the Stim, as you did the Iraq war?
Yes, on balance, the iraq war was a waste of money, resources, and was a disaster, only saved by the last minute gamble of the surge which your hero said would fail and not work.
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DAVID BROOKS: It was obvious. I mean, you are trying to build a stimulus package. And when they were trying to build it, believe me, they would have loved to have filled it with infrastructure jobs. But the projects just didn’t exist. They couldn’t do it. They couldn’t find them.
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So obama goes across the nation with the speeches I posted above KNOWING that these projects are all nonsense to sell the stupid Stim Bill and we are supposed to believe that only after the fact obama realized this? Please.
Same bs, different bill and issue.
looks like a quote from Brooks not Obama
the idea that there are no infrastructure work needed is ridculous. We have bridges/roads all over the country in various stages of disrepair I saw work on highways near my house that were being funded by stimulus dollars
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Yes, on balance, the iraq war was a waste of money, resources, and was a disaster, only saved by the last minute gamble of the surge which your hero said would fail and not work.
Soooo by your standards - IF - seven years too late and at extreme add'l cost - UE drops below 8%, it'll suddenly become a SUCCESS?
Or are you only applying that standard to a republican thing, the war, but you don't give the dem offering that same "grace period"?
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looks like a quote from Brooks not Obama
the idea that there are no infrastructure work needed is ridculous. We have bridges/roads all over the country in various stages of disrepair I saw work on highways near my house that were being funded by stimulus dollars
The Stim bill was only 4-10% infrastructure.
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Soooo by your standards - IF - seven years too late and at extreme add'l cost - UE drops below 8%, it'll suddenly become a SUCCESS?
Or are you only applying that standard to a republican thing, the war, but you don't give the dem offering that same "grace period"?
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Dear God are you blind. There is nothing in the stim bill that was ever intended to bring down UE in the first place. It was a give away to the far left.
Additionally - the Stim bill money was already spent and there is nothing at all that will have any residual impact on UE 7 years from now.
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The Stim bill was only 4-10% infrastructure.
do remember me saying how it should be more infrastructure and less bullshit?
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do remember me saying how it should be more infrastructure and less bullshit?
Yes I do. It sdhould have been mostly infrastructure IMHO. Dams, water treatment facilities, levys, desalinzation projects, nuke plants, etc.
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Obama said it was a "ruse"
where's that quote
btw - I don't have a problem if this claim of no shovel ready jobs was a realization after the fact but if it was intentional ruse as you say, then that's different.
of course you dont ::)
just like you have no problem with him being wrong about the stimulus, health care bill, finreg etc...
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of course you dont ::)
just like you have no problem with him being wrong about the stimulus, health care bill, finreg etc...
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go find the quote where obama said it was a "ruse"
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go find the quote where obama said it was a "ruse"
Im not arguing that part brain child...
Im arguing the complete and total incompetency and idiocy of this moron we have as president...
How did he not know that there were no shovel ready projects? what made this dumb ass think there was shovel ready projects?
his constant hindering of the economy and putting his agenda in front of the welfare of the citizens of this country is just plain sickening but hey I guess you have no problem with any of that ::)
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Im not arguing that part brain child...
Im arguing the complete and total incompetency and idiocy of this moron we have as president...
How did he not know that there were no shovel ready projects? what made this dumb ass think there was shovel ready projects?
his constant hindering of the economy and putting his agenda in front of the welfare of the citizens of this country is just plain sickening but hey I guess you have no problem with any of that ::)
constant hindering
god that fucking laughable
if he did as the Repubs would have preferred (nothing but tax cuts) we'd have 25% unemployment right now, more failed banks and more foreclourese than we currently and maybe one ddomestic auto manufacturer
I'll take a POTUS who can admit mistake and learn from them rather than one who pretends he's never made a mistake (or worse, truly believes it)
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constant hindering
god that fucking laughable
if he did as the Repubs would have preferred (nothing but tax cuts) we'd have 25% unemployment right now, more failed banks and more foreclourese than we currently and maybe one ddomestic auto manufacturer
I'll take a POTUS who can admit mistake and learn from them rather than one who pretends he's never made a mistake (or worse, truly believes it)
lol actually the reps are the ones who did the started bail outs remember that was under bush...but hey revise as you wish...
you think health care, finereg, not extending bush tax cuts, cap/trade talk etc..etc...has helped or hurt the economy straw?
arent you a finance guy? you have to have some understanding of economics my friend...
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lol actually the reps are the ones who did the started bail outs remember that was under bush...but hey revise as you wish...
you think health care, finereg, not extending bush tax cuts, cap/trade talk etc..etc...has helped or hurt the economy straw?
arent you a finance guy? you have to have some understanding of economics my friend...
of course I remember
I just figured you were a "blame Obama for everything" guy and of course the Obama admin continued the them so virtually all Repubs pretend that they are his to begin with
the repubs designed the bush tax cuts to sunset on the last day of 2010 because they were passed with reconciliation and didn't include any mechanism to offset the lost revenue
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of course I remember
I just figured you were a "blame Obama for everything" guy and of course the Obama admin continued the them so virtually all Repubs pretend that they are his to begin with
the repubs designed the bush tax cuts to sunset on the last day of 2010 because they were passed with reconciliation and didn't include any mechanism to offset the lost revenue
you find that offensive? do you like how obama crammed his bull shit of a health care bill down our throats like that?
why didnt you answer the question straw?
you think health care, finereg, not extending bush tax cuts, cap/trade talk etc..etc...has helped or hurt the economy straw?
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you find that offensive? do you like how obama crammed his bull shit of a health care bill down our throats like that?
why didnt you answer the question straw?
you think health care, finereg, not extending bush tax cuts, cap/trade talk etc..etc...has helped or hurt the economy straw?
find what offensive
I'm simply stating a fact
Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation and legislation passed with reconciliation does not allow for that legislation to increase deficits beyond the fiscal year covered by reconciliation measure.
Since the Bush tax cuts increased the deficit (remember that thing you hate so much about Obama) the Repubs knew that hey to put in a sunset provision or they wouldn't have been able to pass them in the first place............because ........as I said before.....they increased the deficit
if you have a problem with the deficit then you must be against extending the bush era tax cuts
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find what offensive
I'm simply stating a fact
Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation and legislation passed with reconciliation does not allow for that legislation to increase deficits beyond the fiscal year covered by reconciliation measure.
Since the Bush tax cuts increased the deficit (remember that thing you hate so much about Obama) the Repubs knew that hey to put in a sunset provision or they wouldn't have been able to pass them in the first place............because ........as I said before.....they increased the deficit
if you have a problem with the deficit then you must be against extending the bush era tax cuts
LOL not extending them right now is hurting more than helping, wouldnt you agree?
do you think that obamas legislation has helped or hurt the economy more?
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LOL not extending them right now is hurting more than helping, wouldnt you agree?
do you think that obamas legislation has helped or hurt the economy more?
hard to say but if they do the we can simlpy keep the lower/middle income tax cuts and let the upper income ones sunset
the vast majority of the tax cuts were for the upper class so this would still produce a large benefit while not hurting the lower and middle income earners
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hard to say but if they do the we can simlpy keep the lower/middle income tax cuts and let the upper income ones sunset
the vast majority of the tax cuts were for the upper class so this would still produce a large benefit while not hurting the lower and middle income earners
why not just freeze them for the time being until the economy gets on track and then address them?
why not do that with the entire obama agenda thus far as it has been doing nothing but injecting uncertainty into the business arena?
or is this another one of those obama didnt know situations?
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why not just freeze them for the time being until the economy gets on track and then address them?why not do that with the entire obama agenda thus far as it has been doing nothing but injecting uncertainty into the business arena?
or is this another one of those obama didnt know situations?
because they do increase the deficit and we can let the largest part of it sunset which without harming the economy and probably not harming anyone either. Even though very wealthy people will pay a bit more in taxes on that marginal AGI > 500k, 1M, etc..... most won't even feel it and it won't really effect there day to day lives in any way
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because they do increase the deficit and we can let the largest part of it sunset which without harming the economy and probably not harming anyone either. Even though very wealthy people will pay a bit more in taxes on that marginal AGI > 500k, 1M, etc..... most won't even feel it and it won't really effect there day to day lives in any way
agreed so does run away spending but you dont seem to want to address that?
I agree that taxes will need to get raised on everyone, if you go back to before the election i said specifically that no matter who got in taxes were going to get raised
but again why not wait until the economy gets back on track? doing so now will only serve to further hinder the economic recovery...if youre going to anyway which is whats likely to happen, WHY THE HELL WAIT?
this administration is showing itself to be completely inept at dealing with the economic situation choosing instead to chase liberal agendas at the expense of the welfare of the citizens that they sold their bull shit lies to
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33386, please give it to us straight.
Will you be voting for Obama in 2012 or has your faith wavered since you cast your two votes for him, first in the primary and then in the general elction.
I find it highly ironic that you supported him so vehemently in the 2008 election, yet here, you can only sling his name through the mud.
Where's the consistency? Getbig awaits your answer, man.
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garebear what is your view on gays in same sex locker rooms? ;D :D ;)
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garebear what is your view on gays in same sex locker rooms? ;D :D ;)
Sounds like a recipe for boners!
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because they do increase the deficit and we can let the largest part of it sunset which without harming the economy and probably not harming anyone either. Even though very wealthy people will pay a bit more in taxes on that marginal AGI > 500k, 1M, etc..... most won't even feel it and it won't really effect there day to day lives in any way
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700 billion over ten years, 70 billion a year essentially, is nothing considering the 1.3 trillion dollar yearly deficits we are running as it is and not reenatcing these tax rates will have a bad effect on the economy.
They need to pare down these wars, and cut cut cut cut.
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1.3 Trillion?
Damn, we could have needlessly invaded another nation for that money.
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agreed so does run away spending but you dont seem to want to address that?
I agree that taxes will need to get raised on everyone, if you go back to before the election i said specifically that no matter who got in taxes were going to get raised
but again why not wait until the economy gets back on track? doing so now will only serve to further hinder the economic recovery...if youre going to anyway which is whats likely to happen, WHY THE HELL WAIT?
this administration is showing itself to be completely inept at dealing with the economic situation choosing instead to chase liberal agendas at the expense of the welfare of the citizens that they sold their bull shit lies to
would you like to respond to any of these comments gare?
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Damn, we could have needlessly invaded another nation for that money.
do you feel BOTH iraq and afghanistan were needless invasions - or just iraq?
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Linda Chavez: Obama has no clue about entrepreneurship
By: Linda Chavez
Examiner Columnist
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October 15, 2010
President Obama has finally admitted that a core premise of his nearly trillion-dollar stimulus package was false.
In an interview this week with The New York Times' Peter Baker, the president acknowledged that "there's no such thing as shovel-ready projects," despite the president's near-constant invocation of the term over a two-year period to explain how government spending was going to create jobs.
The president's admission is no minor matter; it goes to the heart of why his economic policies have been such a failure. Not since President Jimmy Carter's confession in 1980 that it took the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan for him to fully understand "what the Soviets' ultimate goals are" has a sitting president so fully exposed his ignorance.
Obama's admission might be refreshing if it meant he would rethink his economic assumptions, but the Baker interview gives no such indication. Instead, the president seems to think his biggest problem has been his failure to communicate his policies effectively.
"There is probably a perverse pride in my administration -- and I take responsibility for this; this was blowing from the top -- that we were going to do the right thing, even if short-term it was unpopular," he said. "And I think anybody who's occupied this office has to remember that success is determined by an intersection in policy and politics and that you can't be neglecting of marketing and P.R. and public opinion."
The statements are both stunningly arrogant and misleading. The president of the United States is not a philosopher king. In a democracy, the president doesn't determine what "the right thing" is and let the people who put him in office be damned.
Nor did the president and his team neglect the "marketing and P.R." of his policies. The "shovel-ready" comments were all salesmanship and no substance.
In his first year in office, the president gave 411 speeches, sat for 158 press interviews, conducted 42 news conferences, and visited 30 states, according to a compilation by CBS News. Failing to communicate was not the issue.
The president's problem is that he has neither experience in, nor understanding of, the private economy. He has worked exclusively in the nonprofit and government sector.
He has an unlimited faith in government and limited trust in private industry. And the president surrounds himself with people who share his myopia.
When the president visited plants from Buffalo to San Francisco on his much-touted jobs tours during the spring and summer, he was there to tell workers that government saved or created their jobs.
But that is not how it's done. Job creation happens when individuals take personal risks: A man notices that all his friends and neighbors have garages stuffed with junk they don't want and starts a new business with $700 in startup capital and an old beat-up truck. A few years later, Brian Scudamore's 1-800-GOT-JUNK has 100 franchises across the country.
A young woman decides her chocolate chip cookies deserve to be enjoyed beyond her family. Debbi Fields borrows money, opens a small storefront, and within seven years, her company, Mrs. Fields Cookies, had revenues of more than $45 million.
A college student spends his time in his dorm room building personal computers for his friends and selling them for less than the name brands. He drops out of school, but by the time he's 27, Michael Dell is the youngest CEO on the Fortune 500 list of largest companies in America.
These individuals created great wealth for themselves, but they also created thousands of jobs for other people. The fallacy in Obama's thinking is the assumption we'd be better off taxing rich people more and having government spend the money directly.
But government can never be as efficient as the market. Scudamore, Fields, and Dell might just as well have failed as succeeded.
When entrepreneurs fail, they've lost their own money and that of investors who have freely chosen to take the risk.
Government programs, however, play with other people's money -- since government has no money of its own. When government programs fail, the consequences aren't born by the people making the decisions but by the taxpayers.
So when Obama finally realizes there's no such thing as a shovel-ready project, he's admitting he's wasted our money -- billions of dollars -- not his own. But his only answer is to raise taxes so he can spend yet more. It's the kind of thinking that dooms his presidency and our economy.
Examiner Columnist Linda Chavez is nationally syndicated by Creators Syndicate
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Obama-has-no-clue-about-entrepreneurship-1226967-105051944.html#ixzz12diQDcQn
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Ha ha ha - Palin has been on a roll lately. Fuck imam obama- piss and shit be upon him every day.
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Palin:
"Hey Barack: shovel ready jobs my astroturf"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/18/sarah_palin_slams_obama_shovel-ready_jobs_my_astroturf.html
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do you feel BOTH iraq and afghanistan were needless invasions - or just iraq?
Probably both by now. Before, just Iraq was needless to me.
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Probably both by now. Before, just Iraq was needless to me.
I don't think the wars themselves were needless, the nation building tacked onto it absolutely.