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Title: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: G_Thang on October 17, 2010, 01:01:01 PM
ok flex...the ninjas dont mean shit but how did you let mcquay pull Dre from under your nose?  i guess they call this an owning on getbig.
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once you hook up with a guy like Dre...the six figure clients just rain down on you.  a lil opportunistic Asian...he is.  nice going flex...who has the brand name and the physique  ::)   

 

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: dyslexic on October 17, 2010, 01:26:49 PM
Asian gangs and black gangs...


Is this the Prison Edition of Getbig?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
All Flex got was a a spot in Boss' video, and a visit from Dre while he was in the hospital. Obviously Flex wasn't thinking or didn't see the cache of being involved with the West Coast hip hop scene. Especially now since image is everything. To be truthful, Flex had a more promising bbing career than Stan ever will, so Stan had to do other ventures.

But, with Flex's genetics and image, he could have made connections on both coasts within the Hip Hop world, missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on October 17, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
Stan has his own personal jet ...... Who knew?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 01:57:18 PM
Stan has his own personal jet ...... Who knew?
Of course he does not, it's someone else's . But Stan from what I've heard has made some good money hustling his image and training Dre and 50 among others.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 17, 2010, 01:59:53 PM
while flex was struggling to keep his kidneys from falling out of his asshole

stan must have danced his way in and became the DR's new bodybuilding muse
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Dreadlifter on October 17, 2010, 02:15:40 PM
See this is why Stan didn't need to be gifted an undeserving pro card, he was making enough ends as it was (i assume).
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 17, 2010, 02:18:18 PM
why are these idiots saying stan didnt deserve his pro card


he has an extremely gifted build



he just won a contest last year



..........and this year i believe
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
ok flex...the ninjas dont mean shit but how did you let mcquay pull Dre from under your nose?  i guess they call this an owning on getbig.
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once you hook up with a guy like Dre...the six figure clients just rain down on you.  a lil opportunistic Asian...he is.  nice going flex...who has the brand name and the physique  ::)   

 



Why would this be an owning?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
Why would this be an owning?
Because Flex didn't capitalize on his connections...but Stan did.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2010, 02:25:46 PM
Because Flex didn't capitalize on his connections...but Stan did.

Gotcha. It's not whether you can really train people but how much exposure you can get for not doing or knowing shit?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 02:34:19 PM
Gotcha. It's not whether you can really train people but how much exposure you can get for not doing or knowing shit?
That and or getting results. Dre has gained weight...bigger arms, chest, traps. 50 has always been into lifting, and he had a incident a while back with being caught with steroids in his trunk.

With all the training that Charles Glass has given Flex, and Flex being one of his "disciples", and his relationship with the hip hop community, one could have guess he would have jumped on that chance. But maybe his ties were severed due to his 94 incident and he never kept in touch.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on October 17, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
Of course he does not, it's someone else's . But Stan from what I've heard has made some good money hustling his image and training Dre and 50 among others.
I guess I should be outward with my sarcasm... Will this work - (sarcasm)?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: KevinP85 on October 17, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
Because Flex didn't capitalize on his connections...but Stan did.



The thing is Stan was always an opportunist, bbing and competiting was NEVER the means of his income, he only did it as a "hobby" and to get notoriety for his other ventures which was magazine/cover spreads, his personal training business, etc.. From what I've seen he is very successful and this was the mindset he always had when he started with this "sport." He is definitely a smart guy, I don't know Flex much, but from his vids and mentality that he presented I am not surprised he is where he is today.

As far as physiques go, yes he did deserve his pro card, a little bit undersized compared to many other pros, but it's his structure, shape, and balance that got him thus far. You can say a classical physique in the modern era. Also he got screwed this Olympia as far as placings go.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: KevinP85 on October 17, 2010, 03:21:21 PM
I guess I should be outward with my sarcasm... Will this work - (sarcasm)?


That is Dre's private jet. Dre paid Stan to travel with him and train him while on vacation and other promotions. Warren G was the other client Stan was training that was on the plane as well.

He also trains and is good friends with Tanoi, the Rock's cousin, the one you see in those pics.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: delta9mda on October 17, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
why are these idiots saying stan didnt deserve his pro card


he has an extremely gifted build



he just won a contest last year



..........and this year i believe
i was at the nats in 06 when he "won" his pro card. he was gifted.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 04:12:29 PM

That is Dre's private jet. Dre paid Stan to travel with him and train him while on vacation and other promotions. Warren G was the other client Stan was training that was on the plane as well.

He also trains and is good friends with Tanoi, the Rock's cousin, the one you see in those pics.
I always find it hard to believe how people with money need to be "trained", especially dudes who make a image off of being hard, whereas the one's in prison just lift weights. How hard is it to buy some mags or some weights and lift?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 17, 2010, 04:15:52 PM
Jumpstart to post 342143434 pictures in 5,4,3,2.......
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 17, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
Flex was the man
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 05:16:18 PM
What? Someone has posted a Stan Mcquay thread and it wasn't me? Gee it must BE the end of the world as we know it! LOL.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:34:55 PM
In a dedication to this thread it's my responsibility and honor to post both pics of Stan Mcquay & Flex wheeler, you'll enjoy it I know you would lol.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 17, 2010, 07:45:11 PM
Interesting discussion....but you're comparing apples and oranges.

Flex CLEARLY wasn't business  minded.  I think for him hanging out with Dre, partying with him, being apart of that scene was the intention rather than capitializing off of the connections.

Flex was late 20's early 30's when he peaked and was actually making good money from BB'ing. He just foolishly spent it all.

I don't know much about Stan but I DOUBT he was making his main income off of BB'ing.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:45:36 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:48:26 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:49:37 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 17, 2010, 07:50:06 PM
This isn't a bad thread at all :P
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:53:56 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:58:41 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 07:59:57 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:03:08 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:03:42 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2010, 08:06:25 PM
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Right there he looks like Michio Grubbs sans moustache, who was also half Japanese.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:16:52 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:17:35 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:23:42 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:32:09 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 17, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 17, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
very impressive pics, havent seen a lot of them before



flex is in a world by himself.......i mean he is flex wheeler



but you gotta hand it to stan, as far a "pretty" physiques go.......no one has him beat


if you showed the general public or some regular guy in the gym photos of every IFBB pro BB and asked them which one they would want to look like..........i guarentee most people would pick stan McQuay
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 17, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
no. 14

Wow you are taking it back...I remember this.  This was '92 or '93 right when he won Nationals or USA.

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 18, 2010, 04:00:07 AM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: dave19 on October 18, 2010, 04:09:05 AM


if you showed the general public or some regular guy in the gym photos of every IFBB pro BB and asked them which one they would want to look like..........i guarentee most people would pick stan McQuay

Not if you tell 'em that he's barely over 5 foot. He looks like a circus freak midget next to 50 and Dre
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 18, 2010, 06:23:38 AM
Not if you tell 'em that he's barely over 5 foot. He looks like a circus freak midget next to 50 and Dre

 ;D ;D

point dav319........
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: G_Thang on October 18, 2010, 06:26:11 AM
Interesting discussion....but you're comparing apples and oranges.

not really...given there is only a 4 yr or so difference in age and both had early sponsorships from bbing.  magazine dont pay crap...just exposure which they both received.  the big differece is flex getting prize money and stan with a training business

Flex CLEARLY wasn't business  minded.  I think for him hanging out with Dre, partying with him, being apart of that scene was the intention rather than capitializing off of the connections.

well...flex is the 1st in the gym with dre.  i'm not sure what he was thinking when dre was saying...i'm trying to get in shape...man.  stan picks up dre after flex's retirement.  their relationship is well after 2000.

Flex was late 20's early 30's when he peaked and was actually making good money from BB'ing. He just foolishly spent it all.

again...this has nothing to do with dre and training, is after flex's competitive days.  

I don't know much about Stan but I DOUBT he was making his main income off of BB'ing.

sponsorship, magazines (not much money there...just exposure) and training/hlth business which all come from bbing.  he has said it on video.  he is actually doing gym ownership and some other stuff like real estate now    

again...the dre window is after flex's hay day.  it's too bad.  flex has the brand and the training background via glass in venice as parker said...so he could be doing nicely vs hustling efx for a check and  MD as an interviewer vs Shawn who just does the job better...and you can see flex is just  hanging on and trying.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 18, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
All Flex got was a a spot in Boss' video, and a visit from Dre while he was in the hospital. Obviously Flex wasn't thinking or didn't see the cache of being involved with the West Coast hip hop scene. Especially now since image is everything. To be truthful, Flex had a more promising bbing career than Stan ever will, so Stan had to do other ventures.

But, with Flex's genetics and image, he could have made connections on both coasts within the Hip Hop world, missed opportunity.

Yes but Stan's physique is much healthier than Flex's ever was. Stan will probably hold on to his look for decades to come while Flex is still resorting to massive amounts of oil just to look like he even touches a weight.  :-\
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 18, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
again...the dre window is after flex's hay day.  it's too bad.  flex has the brand and the training background via glass in venice as parker said...so he could be doing nicely vs hustling efx for a check and  MD as an interviewer vs Shawn who just does the job better...and you can see flex is just  hanging on and trying.

I don't agree.  I'm not going to state the obvious, but really now?  Do you think if he ACTUALLY had the skills and savvy to run a business that he would be in the state he is in now?  I simply don't think that it's there. 

And contrary to popular belief just because you were a great competitor yourself doesn't mean you can train others.  THere is some knowledge that you have to have of anatomy/physiology and be able to design programs.  He can't just train everybody according to what he did.  That makes no sense.

It's like these pro athletes that try to open up sports grills and these other business ventures...Just because you had a big name at one time does not mean that you know how to run a business and you're any good at it.

Shawn may be an a-hole, but he's not dumb. I don't know anything about his finances...but I knew that he wasn't going to have too much trouble landing a job after he retired.

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 18, 2010, 03:35:44 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: KevinP85 on October 18, 2010, 03:43:19 PM
again...the dre window is after flex's hay day.  it's too bad.  flex has the brand and the training background via glass in venice as parker said...so he could be doing nicely vs hustling efx for a check and  MD as an interviewer vs Shawn who just does the job better...and you can see flex is just  hanging on and trying.



Again, like I already stated earlier in one of my posts, Stan is VERY successfull as of now. Clearly not stupid, and very business sense, he splurges once in awhile as shown in his Porsche and R8 cars, but he is very careful when it comes to investments, especially in the long term.

The whole competiing thing is ALL about notoriety and exposure, it was NEVER  a means to an income. Also it's a hobby as well. His training business and famous clientele training is where it's at, plus numerous other ventures like real estate.

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 18, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 03:56:45 PM
Flex got into his imfamous accident while leaving a Dr. Dre party...said Dre came to the hospital to visit him, and Dre doesn't do that (come and visit people) because of bad "personal" experiences in the hospital. Flex was like 28, 29 at that time in 1994.

Azure, I don't know, from the vids I have seen, from when he was younger, he liked to train unilaterally, and that he can put together workouts for people. I remember on his teamflex website, he used to do the over the phone counseling and workout coaching, putting together wrkout for people. But Flex is more a bber, whereas Stan is a businessman who likes to bodybuild...big difference...
Time will only tell when or if Flex can milk more from him being one of the greatest bodybuilders in the world.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 18, 2010, 04:21:49 PM
Flex got into his imfamous accident while leaving a Dr. Dre party...said Dre came to the hospital to visit him, and Dre doesn't do that (come and visit people) because of bad "personal" experiences in the hospital. Flex was like 28, 29 at that time in 1994.

Azure, I don't know, from the vids I have seen, from when he was younger, he liked to train unilaterally, and that he can put together workouts for people. I remember on his teamflex website, he used to do the over the phone counseling and workout coaching, putting together wrkout for people. But Flex is more a bber, whereas Stan is a businessman who likes to bodybuild...big difference...
Time will only tell when or if Flex can milk more from him being one of the greatest bodybuilders in the world.

Hmmmmm I agree with most of your points, but as I said jsut because he coudl train himself doesn't mean that could translate well to others.  There is a reason why that never panned out.


If Flex truly had smart advisors and business people around him, things may have turned out differently for him.  I wish him nothing but the best.  Poor guy has had a lot of demons to fight and overcome in his life.  I hope he really does well.  I'm rooting for him.

For all of you all talking crap about him, he really is a good guy who loves his family and is trying to do the right thing.  I wish him nothing but the best.   

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 18, 2010, 04:24:07 PM
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Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ThaRealist on October 18, 2010, 05:16:30 PM
I wish I had a little darker tint to my skin, as of right now it isn't cool to be white for we are considered to be the devil
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: G_Thang on October 18, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
I wish I had a little darker tint to my skin, as of right now it isn't cool to be white for we are considered to be the devil

what kind of Self-Loathing BS is this?  i've seen it all on getbig now.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 05:22:56 PM
I wish I had a little darker tint to my skin, as of right now it isn't cool to be white for we are considered to be the devil
Considered? The walking embodiment of him! ;D Wouldn't having a darker tint mean you bear the mark of Ham?

actually, if anything the devil would be a woman, cause man falls for the same trick, everytime. If you look for the downfall of man, majority of it would be a woman, next greed and power, with a woman mixed in.

No offense Azure!
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: ThaRealist on October 18, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
what kind of Self-Loathing BS is this?  i've seen it all on getbig now.

Hey, just statin the facts....Right now if you are a white, straight male you are on many a dislike list
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 05:39:47 PM
Hey, just statin the facts....Right now if you are a white, straight male you are on many a dislike list
Except for Asian women...

Now, back to Flex v. Stan
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: Azure on October 18, 2010, 08:43:22 PM
Considered? The walking embodiment of him! ;D Wouldn't having a darker tint mean you bear the mark of Ham?

actually, if anything the devil would be a woman, cause man falls for the same trick, everytime. If you look for the downfall of man, majority of it would be a woman, next greed and power, with a woman mixed in.

No offense Azure!

None taken!

I think many a man has fallen or even worse not reached his full potential because he lacked a good woman by his side.

There are a lot of bad apples out there that bring men down.

In the BB world, women have to be even MORE understanding, caring, and nurturing.  A lot  of the time you're caring for a big baby that needs his meals,  listening to the complaining about diet, and on top of it all you're usually dealing with someone EXTREMELY insecure.  EXTREMELY.

Takes the love of a good woman to bring you past all that to get you to your personal best and vice versa.

But the good guys on here...be careful.  A lot of women are looking to screw over the nice guys. Don't let em.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 18, 2010, 08:44:46 PM
Only 24 pics?

Jumpstart is slipping  :-\
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: KevinP85 on October 18, 2010, 09:00:24 PM
Except for Asian women...
Now, back to Flex v. Stan


YUCKY!! ;D Out of all, the worst, lol, Jk, but I don't know why my fellow brothers love asian girls, they don't do it for me, some are hot, yes, but guess to each their own :-\

Give me a sister girl, white girls, of course, ;D, and Latinas....... Wait ;D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler vs Stan McQuay
Post by: jumpstart on October 19, 2010, 01:50:42 AM
Only 24 pics?

Jumpstart is slipping  :-\
Brother i'm just getting warmed up! LOL>