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Title: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 18, 2010, 02:24:59 AM
Lot's of old-time bodybuilders still have decent lines/shape-(Lee Haney, Labrada, Schwarzzy, Ferriggy...etc..etc..) granted with a bit more bodyfat.... but Flex..



He looks like a black version of Tom Prince... sans the balloons in his Valentino-ish arms and the ugly tribals.



Maybe it's just me. Maybe... I don't know WTF I'm even talking about. He poses in the mags between two jacked brutes that he is selling juice too--I mean "training" and he makes himself look worse than a faggy personal trainer...


And then when he tries to hold an interview, he sounds like Elmer Fudd. Am I the one who is F'd up here?
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Tito24 on October 18, 2010, 02:26:57 AM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1577wtmk_EXLAMGMNCI.JPG)

agree, he maybe should try steroids again.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: PORKY on October 18, 2010, 04:43:47 AM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1577wtmk_EXLAMGMNCI.JPG)

agree, he maybe should try steroids again.
That's Eddie Murphy jacked up!  ;D
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: spinnis on October 18, 2010, 04:47:08 AM
Because flex never Enjoyed training. Hes a lazy bastard and ONLY did it for the "money".

So when thats out of the picture so is flex.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2010, 05:12:04 AM
Because flex never Enjoyed training. Hes a lazy bastard and ONLY did it for the "money".

So when thats out of the picture so is flex.

3 IronMan titles

1 NOC titles

4 ASCs

3-time Mr. O runner-up.

Yep....that's really "lazy".
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Tito24 on October 18, 2010, 05:30:18 AM
He rather has big synthol arms than small natural arms thats a fact.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Playboy on October 18, 2010, 05:35:18 AM
Alot of these guys just retire and move on in life. You seriously cannot expect a guy to roid up hi whole damn life.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: StanZoLOL on October 18, 2010, 05:36:26 AM
Alot of these guys just retire and move on in life. You seriously cannot expect a guy to roid up hi whole damn life.

Yeah, but you'd expect someone with his genetics to look good on 100-200mg HRT.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Red Hook on October 18, 2010, 05:39:23 AM
Lot's of old-time bodybuilders still have decent lines/shape-(Lee Haney, Labrada, Schwarzzy, Ferriggy...etc..etc..) granted with a bit more bodyfat.... but Flex..



He looks like a black version of Tom Prince... sans the balloons in his Valentino-ish arms and the ugly tribals.



Maybe it's just me. Maybe... I don't know WTF I'm even talking about. He poses in the mags between two jacked brutes that he is selling juice too--I mean "training" and he makes himself look worse than a faggy personal trainer...


And then when he tries to hold an interview, he sounds like Elmer Fudd. Am I the one who is F'd up here?

"looking good" in retirement just doesn't pay the bills  :-\

seriously, who cares, obviously he doesn't. At this juncture he is only converned about looking decent in a tank top for the video/interviews that he does.

Flex is trying to pay his bills
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Playboy on October 18, 2010, 05:42:25 AM
Yeah, but you'd expect someone with his genetics to look good on 100-200mg HRT.
You cannot go from boatloading drugs for 15 years or more to going off and retaining muscle regardless of HRT. By that point you've already changed your body's chemistry.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 06:23:46 AM
1. No natural base. If you build a natural base even if you stop training for long periods, you retain a lot better and it comes back very quickly when you do restart training.

2. He has good genetics for shape and flow, he probably has very bad genetics for any sort of mass naturally.

3. He was all drugs.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 18, 2010, 06:41:58 AM
1. No natural base. If you build a natural base even if you stop training for long periods, you retain a lot better and it comes back very quickly when you do restart training.

2. He has good genetics for shape and flow, he probably has very bad genetics for any sort of mass naturally.

3. He was all drugs.



whats it like to be born without a brain??


 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 06:44:36 AM
He has a nothing physique doesn't even look like he ever trained.

My 60 year old father, lifetime natty, shit diet, sporadic training carries more mass than him.

Flex is a true hardgainer who's shape and lines only became apparent through drugs.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: G_Thang on October 18, 2010, 06:53:23 AM
He has a nothing physique doesn't even look like he ever trained.

My 60 year old father, lifetime natty, shit diet, sporadic training carries more mass than him.

Flex is a true hardgainer who's shape and lines only became apparent through drugs.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

This!

Flex...a True Ectomorph.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 18, 2010, 06:53:59 AM
He has a nothing physique doesn't even look like he ever trained.

My 60 year old father, lifetime natty, shit diet, sporadic training carries more mass than him.

Flex is a true hardgainer who's shape and lines only became apparent through drugs.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


massive organ failure tends to be pretty catabolic



i dont know what you think he is supposed to look like.,,.......obviously training is not a priority for him in life right now........


when people dont train, and dont watch their diet they get small and fat.........doesnt matter if that person is you, me, ronnie coleman, flex wheeler, or shawn ray



no one stays lean and jacked years after they have stopped training and eating right,.............not even the best genetics in the world


some people , because of their natural shape will just be bigger people, or wider people, or broad shouldered.............. .flex wheeler  has a very small bone structure, thats why he looked so good on stage............but if they are not training and eatin g correctly they will be small and smooth





your just saying ridiculous things.............what exactly do you expect from someone who is no longer training, ronnie coleman would look like that in  a couple years as well if he stopped everything (especially with a life threatening illness)  


Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: bigkahuna on October 18, 2010, 06:57:08 AM
There was a vid of him struggling with 185 on the incline a few years ago on MD
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: myt1 on October 18, 2010, 06:57:24 AM
3 IronMan titles

1 NOC titles

4 ASCs

3-time Mr. O runner-up.

Yep....that's really "lazy".

Thing, is that is mostly from being genetically gifted.  Even Yates has said that he was lucky Flex didn't have as good of motivation or work ethic as him.  Flex could have easily won at least 5 Mr. O's in his time if he was completely focused
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Playboy on October 18, 2010, 07:01:01 AM
1. No natural base. If you build a natural base even if you stop training for long periods, you retain a lot better and it comes back very quickly when you do restart training.

2. He has good genetics for shape and flow, he probably has very bad genetics for any sort of mass naturally.

3. He was all drugs.
Which body builder isn't???
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 07:15:37 AM

massive organ failure tends to be pretty catabolic



i dont know what you think he is supposed to look like.,,.......obviously training is not a priority for him in life right now........


when people dont train, and dont watch their diet they get small and fat.........doesnt matter if that person is you, me, ronnie coleman, flex wheeler, or shawn ray



no one stays lean and jacked years after they have stopped training and eating right,.............not even the best genetics in the world


some people , because of their natural shape will just be bigger people, or wider people, or broad shouldered.............. .flex wheeler  has a very small bone structure, thats why he looked so good on stage............but if they are not training and eatin g correctly they will be small and smooth





your just saying ridiculous things.............what exactly do you expect from someone who is no longer training, ronnie coleman would look like that in  a couple years as well if he stopped everything (especially with a life threatening illness)  






I don't believe that is the case for natties, at least not in my experience. Sure you will lose density and mass but it is nowhere near as pronounced.

It would be impossible for some people to get fat due to metabolism, regardless of bad dietary habits.

Besides i have seen footage of flex training in recent years, so thats that excuse out the window.

Flex had great genetics for drug response and good lines and shape. That's it and thats why he looks like shit now.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2010, 07:15:50 AM
Thing, is that is mostly from being genetically gifted.  Even Yates has said that he was lucky Flex didn't have as good of motivation or work ethic as him.  Flex could have easily won at least 5 Mr. O's in his time if he was completely focused

That's like saying that, of all the bodybuilders ever to compete in the IFBB, all but 12 are "lazy".

Genes don't lift weights, diet, or do cardio. Flex's resume speaks for itself. And, as I stated in another thread, even guys who have actually WON the Olympia (i.e. Dexter Jackson, Samir Bannout, Chris Dickerson) don't get the props that guys like Flex do.

There are genetically gifted guys that haven't won JACK. Some haven't even turned pro.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 18, 2010, 07:27:41 AM


I don't believe that is the case for natties, at least not in my experience. Sure you will lose density and mass but it is nowhere near as pronounced.

It would be impossible for some people to get fat due to metabolism, regardless of bad dietary habits.

Besides i have seen footage of flex training in recent years, so thats that excuse out the window.

Flex had great genetics for drug response and good lines and shape. That's it and thats why he looks like shit now.




of course with the extreme mass a pro like flex was carrying, the weight loss when he stops training is going to be more dramatic then some 160 lb. fucking natty

 and of course a guys metabolism is different when he is  45 then when he is 25



and you know about flex cause you saw a video clip of him lifting a few years ago




you locig is just fucking awful.....your arguing things that are above you pay-grade..............i dont even know what your premise is


i think its that "FLEX" Wheeler doesnt have good muscle building genetics ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2010, 07:29:50 AM
He has a nothing physique doesn't even look like he ever trained.

My 60 year old father, lifetime natty, shit diet, sporadic training carries more mass than him.

Flex is a true hardgainer who's shape and lines only became apparent through drugs.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


It hurts my abs from all that laughing.

Here are Flex and Shawn Ray at the 2010 Olympia. Yep, Flex looks as if he never touched a weight in his life.  ::)


http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2010-olympia/3474-shawn-ray-dorian-yates-and-flex-wheeler-wrap-up-the-2010-ifbb-mr-olympia.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2010-olympia/3474-shawn-ray-dorian-yates-and-flex-wheeler-wrap-up-the-2010-ifbb-mr-olympia.html)
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: JP_RC on October 18, 2010, 07:32:17 AM
Because he stopped training?
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: JP_RC on October 18, 2010, 07:33:25 AM
Plus, I really think he doesn't care what his physique looks like anymore. Most retired pros could care less about staying big.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 07:36:19 AM



of course with the extreme mass a pro like flex was carrying, the weight loss when he stops training is going to be more dramatic then some 160 lb. fucking natty

 and of course a guys metabolism is different when he is  45 then when he is 25



and you know about flex cause you saw a video clip of him lifting a few years ago




you locig is just fucking awful.....your arguing things that are above you pay-grade..............i dont even know what your premise is


i think its that "FLEX" Wheeler doesnt have good muscle building genetics ::) ::) ::)






Yeah that's what i'm saying. Drug addict flex wheeler doesn't have good muscle building genetics, nor does Tom Prince or any other twink bodybuilder who can't do fuck all natty. I like how you say Flex Wheeler like he has some talent for something, save nearly killing himself through drug use.

Everything else i said was spot on. He trains, i assume he eats given the fact that he isn't homeless and destitute, he puts litres of synthol in his arms, he obviously finds it very hard to make gains while being anything close to natural. That's fact.

This myth about losing all of your muscle mass through periods of inactivity is perpetuated by roid heads who look like shit off the sauce, it has zero factual basis.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 18, 2010, 07:38:29 AM
like a prev poster said, you gota be into it, Flex likes the quick fix, instant gratification, not a hard worker, didnt love the training

you get guys that still make a living from industry till later and later nowadays, Benfatto and Taylor are examples

Dickerson stayed in shape till his fifties

Larry Scott is still in great shape at age 71, he retired 40 something yrs ago, he looks better than Flex

Im not anti-Wheeler, but the guy was awesome, he should've been mr O, if he wasnt lazy, he knows he looks like shit, and pretty sure it fucks with his head, and he must regret those tats.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 18, 2010, 07:43:12 AM
That's like saying that, of all the bodybuilders ever to compete in the IFBB, all but 12 are "lazy".

no, its saying that with Flex's genes and Yates' work-ethic, he couldve won the O.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 07:45:17 AM
If Paul Dillet wasn't a retard he could have won the O.

If Bob Paris didn't have problems with the increasing doses he could have won the O.

Shawn has better genetics than Flex, save height.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 18, 2010, 07:49:33 AM
If Paul Dillet wasn't a retard he could have won the O. doubtful. not impossible, but doubtful. you gota hold a pose and have a back to win the o

If Bob Paris didn't have problems with the increasing doses he could have won the O. Paris got his priorities in line, clever man, Im sure he took plenty
Shawn has better genetics than Flex, save height.  :o
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: JP_RC on October 18, 2010, 07:53:20 AM
If Paul Dillet wasn't a retard he could have won the O.

If Bob Paris didn't have problems with the increasing doses he could have won the O.

Shawn has better genetics than Flex, save height.

 :D :-\ :P :-X
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 18, 2010, 07:55:55 AM
Seriously though, i was watching one of the nineties Olympia's the other day and watching Dillett not able to hold a pose for half a second was very odd to say the least.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: G_Thang on October 18, 2010, 07:59:05 AM


Shawn has better genetics than Flex, save height.

could be right?  before bbing and the drugs...shawn (meso)'s core is more muscular than flex (ecto) who was built like a bird's leg in his youth. john brown would say that shawn had better response to drugs while flex just filled out nicer.  of course height is an advantage.
 
(http://www.formerfatguy.com/sunrider-foods/blog/body-type-chart-ectomorph.gif)  
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2010, 08:00:40 AM
like a prev poster said, you gota be into it, Flex likes the quick fix, instant gratification, not a hard worker, didnt love the training

you get guys that still make a living from industry till later and later nowadays, Benfatto and Taylor are examples

Dickerson stayed in shape till his fifties

Larry Scott is still in great shape at age 71, he retired 40 something yrs ago, he looks better than Flex

Im not anti-Wheeler, but the guy was awesome, he should've been mr O, if he wasnt lazy, he knows he looks like shit, and pretty sure it fucks with his head, and he must regret those tats.

Are you high?

Take a good look at the video I posted. Then claim that Scott looked better than Flex does.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2010, 08:03:33 AM
no, its saying that with Flex's genes and Yates' work-ethic, he couldve won the O.

Just because he didn't doesn't mean he didn't work at it, especially in '98, when he was the favorite to win that year.

Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 18, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
What did I expect him to look like?


That's a good question, but at the same time, I inadvertently answered it.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 12:07:23 PM
Lot's of old-time bodybuilders still have decent lines/shape-(Lee Haney, Labrada, Schwarzzy, Ferriggy...etc..etc..) granted with a bit more bodyfat.... but Flex..



He looks like a black version of Tom Prince... sans the balloons in his Valentino-ish arms and the ugly tribals.



Maybe it's just me. Maybe... I don't know WTF I'm even talking about. He poses in the mags between two jacked brutes that he is selling juice too--I mean "training" and he makes himself look worse than a faggy personal trainer...


And then when he tries to hold an interview, he sounds like Elmer Fudd. Am I the one who is F'd up here?

Probably due to his kidney problems.


Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 12:08:41 PM
Because flex never Enjoyed training. Hes a lazy bastard and ONLY did it for the "money".

So when thats out of the picture so is flex.

Flex was ' lazy ' as well as inconsistent and unfocused , Yates said he talked with Flex one year and he was lamenting about how he wished he could look as good as the previous year and Yates asked if he kept a training log and what was he doing differently from the previous year , and he said ' No ' and he was basically winging it in contrast to Dorian who was literally weighing all of his food to the gram and keeping detailed training logs since he started training as well as keeping photos to gauge progress

Flex relied to much on his genetics and he would go half-ass in training sessions and diet , he admitted this much , I think he started out extremely hungry in 92 and 93 and then after the accident he lost focus and discipline and drive , I remember Dorian training the first time he came stateside in 92 and he was at Golds and saw how all the Pros were ' training ' and he was in disbelief how lackadaisical they were and he said he was going to make them all pay for it lol very laid back on the west coast to many distractions , they always said the east coast was more hardcore
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
If Paul Dillet wasn't a retard he could have won the O.

If Bob Paris didn't have problems with the increasing doses he could have won the O.

Shawn has better genetics than Flex, save height.

Dillett wasn't ever going to win the Olympia

Bob Paris was doing all he can including GH

and Shawn has better genetics than Flex? elaborate on this , I think Flex murders him utterly everywhere in structure , shape , symmetry , aesthetics
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: spinnis on October 18, 2010, 12:13:57 PM
3 IronMan titles

1 NOC titles

4 ASCs

3-time Mr. O runner-up.

Yep....that's really "lazy".

I say he only does it for the money and this is your respone? lol.
Hes lazy when he know he can make monet from it. And lazy allt he time with amazing drugresponse
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 18, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Are you high?

Take a good look at the video I posted. Then claim that Scott looked better than Flex does.

flex looks like shit

scott is almost dbl his age and doesnt look like shit

flex fucking lazy
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 18, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
Flex is lazy
even in his vid mass construction
he tells his younder brother and friend to watch him while he does his sets because he will cheat
he also saaid the same in a couple md training videos
flex is an arrogant asshole ... I respect his prime physique
but he was arrogant lazy... Just a fucked up person
he thought the world owed him a favour
he never deserved a sandow ... Unlike shawn or kevin
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Azure on October 18, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
He's 45 years old and not taking steroids.

He looks better than most 45 year olds I see on a daily basis.  He certainly looks better than Shawn.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2010, 12:53:03 PM
Plus, I really think he doesn't care what his physique looks like anymore. Most retired pros could care less about staying big.

This I don't agree with at all. I don't know Flex but I'd venture a guess that his physique is very important to him, even to this day. I think he is still doing as many drugs as he can without dying. He is as muscular as he can be considering he's sick. I don't think the downsizing was by choice at all - he's still trying to hold on to as much as possible.

Being muscular becomes one's identity and it's extremely rare that one can let that go completely. Which is why so many continue to abuse their bodies even after many warning signs and poor contest results. It's an addiction.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MB on October 18, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
Flex looks good for his age, especially if you consider his health issues.  Could he have won the Olympia with a better work ethic?  No.  He was never going to beat Yates or Coleman no matter what he did.   
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Flexb on October 18, 2010, 01:10:07 PM
Flex looks good for his age, especially if you consider his health issues.  Could he have won the Olympia with a better work ethic?  No.  He was never going to beat Yates or Coleman no matter what he did.   

He looked better than Coleman at his best but the way judging goes he wasn't going to beat Ronnie at the Olympia. Freak size beats shape and symmetry any day of the week.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: JP_RC on October 18, 2010, 01:19:24 PM
This I don't agree with at all. I don't know Flex but I'd venture a guess that his physique is very important to him, even to this day. I think he is still doing as many drugs as he can without dying. He is as muscular as he can be considering he's sick. I don't think the downsizing was by choice at all - he's still trying to hold on to as much as possible.

Being muscular becomes one's identity and it's extremely rare that one can let that go completely. Which is why so many continue to abuse their bodies even after many warning signs and poor contest results. It's an addiction.

I agree to a point, but this can't be said of all retired pros. 

Shawn Ray for example has stated he doesn't train anymore and he doesn't follow a nutrition plan either, I doubt he is still on juice based on how he looks now.

It varies a lot. On one hand we have guys like Coleman, Nasser, etc. who are still at it even retired; on the other hand we have Dillet, Prince, Shawn, etc. who don't anymore.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 01:32:57 PM
He looked better than Coleman at his best but the way judging goes he wasn't going to beat Ronnie at the Olympia. Freak size beats shape and symmetry any day of the week.

If that were the case Ronnie wouldn't have won in 98 Nasser was much heavier
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Flexb on October 18, 2010, 01:35:38 PM
If that were the case Ronnie wouldn't have won in 98 Nasser was much heavier

Ronnie was freakier than Nasser though and Nasser from the back was much too weak. I should add that Freak size with conditioning wins but within reason or yea, you'd have guys like NAsser and Ruhl dominating.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2010, 01:37:31 PM
Lot's of old-time bodybuilders still have decent lines/shape-(Lee Haney, Labrada, Schwarzzy, Ferriggy...etc..etc..) granted with a bit more bodyfat.... but Flex..



He looks like a black version of Tom Prince... sans the balloons in his Valentino-ish arms and the ugly tribals.



Maybe it's just me. Maybe... I don't know WTF I'm even talking about. He poses in the mags between two jacked brutes that he is selling juice too--I mean "training" and he makes himself look worse than a faggy personal trainer...


And then when he tries to hold an interview, he sounds like Elmer Fudd. Am I the one who is F'd up here?
google brad harris , he's 78 years old and you'll see the most genetically gifted bodybuilder ever.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on October 18, 2010, 01:42:40 PM
Why do you fucking idiots start a thread like this and include no picture?  Fucking annoying! 
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
google brad harris , he's 78 years old and you'll see the most genetically gifted bodybuilder ever.

I know who he is and you are certainly claiming a LOT when you type he's the most geneticially gifted bodybuilder ever , what context? because he's old and still looks good?
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2010, 02:06:07 PM
I know who he is and you are certainly claiming a LOT when you type he's the most geneticially gifted bodybuilder ever , what context? because he's old and still looks good?
not only that but he looked great back when he was making movies on minimal training. and he has stood the test of time while most of his contemporaries are out of shape or dead. theirs a picture back in the day of brad arnold s and franco c on dipping bars and guess who stood out the most?      answer brad harris. the other guys were competetive bbers at the time he was making dreadful italian movies.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 18, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
He looked better than Coleman at his best but the way judging goes he wasn't going to beat Ronnie at the Olympia. Freak size beats shape and symmetry any day of the week.

mr Olympia = size shape conditioning

ronnie size 10 shape 8 conditioning 9
flex size 7 shape 10 conditioning 7
onstage with ronnie 98,99,00
no contest
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: shortfrenchman on October 18, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
I know who he is and you are certainly claiming a LOT when you type he's the most geneticially gifted bodybuilder ever , what context? because he's old and still looks good?

Do you do tricep kickbacks? ???
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Do you do tricep kickbacks? ???

No , I never got into to them.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: slacker on October 18, 2010, 04:51:38 PM
steroids
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2010, 04:59:36 PM
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Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Master Blaster on October 18, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
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Fucking Klaus looking oil bag, lazy ass ninja fighting, kidneyless fuck up.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 05:18:05 PM
Flex was ' lazy ' as well as inconsistent and unfocused , Yates said he talked with Flex one year and he was lamenting about how he wished he could look as good as the previous year and Yates asked if he kept a training log and what was he doing differently from the previous year , and he said ' No ' and he was basically winging it in contrast to Dorian who was literally weighing all of his food to the gram and keeping detailed training logs since he started training as well as keeping photos to gauge progress

Flex relied to much on his genetics and he would go half-ass in training sessions and diet , he admitted this much , I think he started out extremely hungry in 92 and 93 and then after the accident he lost focus and discipline and drive , I remember Dorian training the first time he came stateside in 92 and he was at Golds and saw how all the Pros were ' training ' and he was in disbelief how lackadaisical they were and he said he was going to make them all pay for it lol very laid back on the west coast to many distractions , they always said the east coast was more hardcore
Shawn Ray also winged it as well. To an extent. He said he didn't weight or keep track of his food, calories, but as he famously said, "pound for pound, I'll take a 300 pounder on anyday", and he trained Flex in 97, Flex had said that Shawn was a animal in the gym...and I think Shawn would have pushed Dorian as well...comes with the territoyry of being "smaller", always got something to prove.

I do think the accident effed Flex up in the head. He had said that when he went to 94 Olympia and was in the audience, that he didn't think he could compete with these monsters...uh, Flex, you came in 2nd last yr, so of course you could have...

But, as Nasser once said, you can't be a 4x Arnold Classic winner, 5x Ironman winner on genetics alone...
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: myt1 on October 18, 2010, 05:52:26 PM
That's like saying that, of all the bodybuilders ever to compete in the IFBB, all but 12 are "lazy".

Genes don't lift weights, diet, or do cardio. Flex's resume speaks for itself. And, as I stated in another thread, even guys who have actually WON the Olympia (i.e. Dexter Jackson, Samir Bannout, Chris Dickerson) don't get the props that guys like Flex do.

There are genetically gifted guys that haven't won JACK. Some haven't even turned pro.

I didn't fucking stutter, and it's not like saying anything other than what I said, which is that Flex had the potential to win multiple Mr. O's had he been more disciplined/ motivated/ had less distractions.  Go over to MD, and ask him if he disagrees with that
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Flexb on October 18, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
mr Olympia = size shape conditioning

ronnie size 10 shape 8 conditioning 9
flex size 7 shape 10 conditioning 7
onstage with ronnie 98,99,00
no contest

Yes, Flex never nailed his condition at the O with the exception of '93. Regardless, Flex still looks better overall but yea it's a bodybuilding contest and muscle is the most important factor in judging.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 18, 2010, 08:55:24 PM
Why do you fucking idiots start a thread like this and include no picture?  Fucking annoying! 


Who exactly do you want a picture of, idiot?


In context, you leave it wide open. You want a picture of Flex or the 80 year old fag? You want a picture of me? You want a picture of you?


Don't be a dick, dick.


Everyone knows what Flex looks like these days, that's why youre the first 'idiot' to ask for a fucking picture.


Do you want a picture of Tom Prince too?
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 19, 2010, 12:21:07 AM
Why do you fucking idiots start a thread like this and include no picture?  Fucking annoying! 
(http://www.bodybuilder.ro/gallery/thebest/Flex%20Wheeler%2011.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_62.jpg)

(http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachments/pro-bodybuilding/20954d1208208863-bunch-crazy-pro-flex_wheeler_021.jpg)

(http://www.prosource.net/images/layout/gossip/wheeler.jpg)

Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Wiggs on October 19, 2010, 01:15:53 AM
(http://www.bodybuilder.ro/gallery/thebest/Flex%20Wheeler%2011.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_62.jpg)

(http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachments/pro-bodybuilding/20954d1208208863-bunch-crazy-pro-flex_wheeler_021.jpg)

(http://www.prosource.net/images/layout/gossip/wheeler.jpg)



phil heath like width in the first pic.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 19, 2010, 01:21:28 AM
phil heath like width in the first pic.
until he started doing lots of presses and laterals :D
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Wiggs on October 19, 2010, 02:53:06 AM
until he started doing lots of presses and laterals synthol:D

fixed
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 19, 2010, 02:59:58 AM
He hasn't been the same since Blechman injected him with the AIDS dick. 
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 03:03:41 AM
1. No natural base. If you build a natural base even if you stop training for long periods, you retain a lot better and it comes back very quickly when you do restart training.

2. He has good genetics for shape and flow, he probably has very bad genetics for any sort of mass naturally.

3. He was all drugs.


As he say on his book, Flex started dbol 3 week after he started training.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Figo on October 19, 2010, 03:54:40 AM
fixed
;D
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: DK II on October 19, 2010, 03:58:18 AM

As he say on his book, Flex started dbol 3 week after he started training.


Shit, he wasted 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 19, 2010, 04:02:15 AM
Melvin Goodrum started on DeezNuts 3 weeks after his 12th birthday. 
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: WillGrant on October 19, 2010, 04:10:30 AM

and Shawn has better genetics than Flex? elaborate on this , I think Flex murders him utterly everywhere in structure , shape , symmetry , aesthetics
And Height  ;D
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Jaime on October 19, 2010, 04:27:50 AM
Dillett wasn't ever going to win the Olympia 

Paul couldn't hold a pose for two seconds and didn't show his physique in it's best light from the back. He had the tools. Here he is completely dominating Dorian.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/960/paul-dillett-dorian-yates.JPG)

Bob Paris was doing all he can including GH

Bob had exceptional structure, better than Flex as Bob had both shape and good skeletal structure. He was certainly not pushing the envelope drug wise and has said as much.

and Shawn has better genetics than Flex? elaborate on this , I think Flex murders him utterly everywhere in structure , shape , symmetry , aesthetics.

I just find Shawns physique more aesthetically pleasing. Far better chest, wider, and more complete, he also didn't need to revert to filling himself with oil to cover deficiencies.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on October 19, 2010, 05:08:34 AM

Who exactly do you want a picture of, idiot?


In context, you leave it wide open. You want a picture of Flex or the 80 year old fag? You want a picture of me? You want a picture of you?


Don't be a dick, dick.


Everyone knows what Flex looks like these days, that's why youre the first 'idiot' to ask for a fucking picture.


Do you want a picture of Tom Prince too?

Sorry I don't keep up with the day to day physique changes of pro bodybuilders least of all a has been turd like Wheeler.  So yes next time post up a fucking picture of his dilapitated ass will ya?  It's fucking getbig courtesy to do as such you dyslexic fuck!   :o
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: meathead23 on October 19, 2010, 05:18:24 AM
I think the real question here is what if Dillett had a Yates like work ethic? Dude could grow mowing lawns.. Just lazy as fuck from what ive heard.. Chick care to comment..
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Deicide on October 19, 2010, 05:54:23 AM
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 19, 2010, 07:10:22 AM
Sorry I don't keep up with the day to day physique changes of pro bodybuilders least of all a has been turd like Wheeler.  So yes next time post up a fucking picture of his dilapitated ass will ya?  It's fucking getbig courtesy to do as such you dyslexic fuck!   :o


Ha ha! 

How bout a vid clip instead homey oh me oh??

Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: Tito24 on October 19, 2010, 07:13:31 AM
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hahaha sorryassed mofo
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 19, 2010, 07:15:01 AM
can we speak about this shirt for a moment..



a purple "frontless" tank top






lol, late 80s early 90s bodybuilding clothing was simply awesome



(http://www.bodybuilder.ro/gallery/thebest/Flex%20Wheeler%2011.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: MB on October 19, 2010, 07:19:11 AM
Like Bill Parcells said, you are what your record says you are.  Flex was a good bodybuilder, but he never would have won the Olympia against Yates or Coleman.  It takes more than small joints to win the Olympia.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 19, 2010, 07:22:19 AM
Here's that Brad Harris gramps...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/bradharrisbodybuilder.jpg)

And I think this is Flex...


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/gumsacopy.jpg)


Wait...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/axelroseb.jpg)


No...I think this Marcus Ruhl

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/myostatin_bull1.jpg)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/doriancormier.jpg)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/grossburger.jpg)


He's in there somewhere

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/kamalichic.jpg)


Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: funk51 on October 19, 2010, 10:32:27 AM
Here's that Brad Harris gramps...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/bradharrisbodybuilder.jpg)

And I think this is Flex...


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/gumsacopy.jpg)


Wait...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/axelroseb.jpg)


No...I think this Marcus Ruhl

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/myostatin_bull1.jpg)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/doriancormier.jpg)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/grossburger.jpg)


He's in there somewhere

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/kamalichic.jpg)



harris is 75 years old in that pic, show me arnuhld or ronnie or flex at that age.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: funk51 on October 19, 2010, 10:35:32 AM
oh wait here they are.
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 19, 2010, 11:02:47 AM


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Paul couldn't hold a pose for two seconds and didn't show his physique in it's best light from the back. He had the tools. Here he is completely dominating Dorian.

Which is part of the reason why I said Paul was never going to win the Olympia , and that pic proves what? he should be Mr Olympia based on a single pose? even entertaining he's ' dominating ' in that single pose

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Bob had exceptional structure, better than Flex as Bob had both shape and good skeletal structure. He was certainly not pushing the envelope drug wise and has said as much

I know he was always reluctant to push the envelope of drug use but I do think GH is the next level but even with the added size we can only speculate on how that would have translated , because everyone knows the heavier one becomes the more their conditioning suffers for it , he did have the structure and could have used more size but doesn't mean much if you can't back it up with the same conditioning which he really wasn't known for anyway

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I just find Shawns physique more aesthetically pleasing. Far better chest, wider, and more complete, he also didn't need to revert to filling himself with oil to cover deficiencies.

I don't think you answered the question , which was how Shawn has better genetics than Flex , and height is part of genetics , as far as chest you might be correct , wider? hell no or more complete ? how so? Flex 93 was oil free the only clear advantages Shawn may have over Flex is hams and maybe abs but gets trounced everywhere else and it's not the parts as much as the poses

Shawn is a poor mans Flex Wheeler


Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 19, 2010, 11:05:53 AM
harris is 75 years old in that pic, show me arnuhld or ronnie or flex at that age.

I don't think so , I think he's in his 50s in that pic I think I have the old Muscle & Fitness
Title: Re: Why does Flex Wheeler look so damn shitty these days?
Post by: dyslexic on October 19, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
I...

won't look like that at 75.


Cereal.