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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Firemuscle on November 01, 2010, 07:23:03 PM
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Big Ach seems like a really nice guy.
But he's claiming to be natural......
What do you think? Smells like bullshit to me.
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My own thread YAAAY! ;D You just made my day!
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My own thread YAAAY! ;D You just made my day!
Mr. Ed on steroids.
A horse is a horse, of course of course.
God damn i'm bored at work over here.......
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as natural as castrol synthetic oil.
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Yes he is natural
Dont be silly
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Yes he is natural
Dont be silly
And you are probably natural too right.
Everyone's natural.
Kinda like how everyone in prison is innocent.
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No, Im sure hes had lots of dental work.
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who cares
Big Ach is class act all the way and had a great physique to boot
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He'd have to be the most impressive natural I've ever seen.
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who cares
Big Ach is class act all the way and had a great physique to boot
I agree, he seems cool. Much more freindly than I am.
I just hate when guys claim natural who obviously aren't.
If you don't want to admit it, just plead the 5th, but don't claim to be natural.
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well at least we can now be assured 'blackFAG redstar' is a gimmick account
a new poster would never call out a board vet like big ach, after being here only a week.,....if your a new poster, you dont really have time to develop opinions about people, or see their pictures.......he has only been posting a few days
this c0ck has an agenda..............and has been here before
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well at least we can now be assured 'blackFAG redstar' is a gimmick account
a new poster would never call out a board vet like big ach, after being here only a week.,....if your a new poster, you dont really have time to develop opinions about people, or see their pictures.......he has only been posting a few days
this c0ck has an agenda..............and has been here before
I've been here before, yes.
But right now this is my only account. I think running a bunch of gimmicks is a complete lame-ass move.
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My own thread YAAAY! ;D You just made my day!
Congrats!!! You've earned it big guy!!
That said :D 15:00, 14:59, 14:58, 14:57,.......
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I've been here before, yes.
But righ
now this is my only account. I think running a bunch of gimmicks is a complete lame-ass move.
but you dont want to tell anyone what name you posted under before??
that is still being a gimmick.........
you have to be clear with people who you were posting as before. or else it just looks like your hiding somehting
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Blackredflagstar... can I please, ask exactly WHY are you convinced I'm not natural??? like what makes you say that? I'm not that big (heaviest I competed in a show is 180 lbs at 6 feet)! So why do you think that?
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There's a saying from the seventies about this kind of question - "If he's on drugs, either they're not working or they're the wrong ones."
Or something to that effect. Nah. I don't think he's a doper, at least from what few photographs I've seen here. He has a good physique and seems to work hard for it.
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Congrats!!! You've earned it big guy!!
That said :D 15:00, 14:59, 14:58, 14:57,.......
I don't get the counter? :)
Thanks guys for your props, I really appreciate it!
The thing is... I have been honest about EVERYTHING from the getgo.... I've shown my face, my name, where I live, the gym I train at, where I work, what supplements I use now and in the past, my upbrining etc etc Never once have I tried to hide anything behind a screen-name... so don't you think I'd be honest about this too?
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Blackredflagstar... can I please, ask exactly WHY are you convinced I'm not natural??? like what makes you say that? I'm not that big (heaviest I competed in a show is 180 lbs at 6 feet)! So why do you think that?
I've seen several pics of you.
I can just tell my the way your physique looks that you are not natural. Numbers don't matter, your appearance tells the story. You're avatar pic is NOT the picture of a natural. That amount of muscle mass, along with the leanness you have requires drugs.
If you truely are a natural. Then that would make you the next bodybuilding phenom who could surpass Ronnie Coleman if you got on the roids. You would be in the top 0.0001% genetically gifted bodybuilders.
I just don't believe it.
But it's cool. Some guys just wanna have a clean image..... I understand. You're secret is safe with me ;)
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My own thread YAAAY! ;D You just made my day!
Congratulations!!!
Once you have a thread on getbig questioning whether you're natural or not; well, thats when you know you've made it.
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I've seen several pics of you.
I can just tell my the way your physique looks that you are not natural. Numbers don't matter, your appearance tells the story. You're avatar pic is NOT the picture of a natural. That amount of muscle mass, along with the leanness you have requires drugs.
If you truely are a natural. Then that would make you the next bodybuilding phenom who could surpass Ronnie Coleman if you got on the roids. You would be in the top 0.0001% genetically gifted bodybuilders.
I just don't believe it.
But it's cool. Some guys just wanna have a clean image..... I understand. You're secret is safe with me ;)
Welp, way to prove how stupid you are. What someone looks like natural has nothing to do with what juice would do to them.
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I don't get the counter? :)
Thanks guys for your props, I really appreciate it!
The thing is... I have been honest about EVERYTHING from the getgo.... I've shown my face, my name, where I live, the gym I train at, where I work, what supplements I use now and in the past, my upbrining etc etc Never once have I tried to hide anything behind a screen-name... so don't you think I'd be honest about this too?
It's your 15 minutes of Getbig fame.....use it wisely. Mine has come and gone.
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Congratulations!!!
Once you have a thread on getbig questioning whether you're natural or not; well, thats when you know you've made it.
Jrod, first of all, its an honor to have you posting on my little thread here! You represent a lot of whats right in bodybuilding man! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks everyone for the Props, and I will try to use my 15 mins wisely!
I've seen several pics of you.
I can just tell my the way your physique looks that you are not natural. Numbers don't matter, your appearance tells the story. You're avatar pic is NOT the picture of a natural. That amount of muscle mass, along with the leanness you have requires drugs.
If you truely are a natural. Then that would make you the next bodybuilding phenom who could surpass Ronnie Coleman if you got on the roids. You would be in the top 0.0001% genetically gifted bodybuilders.
I just don't believe it.
But it's cool. Some guys just wanna have a clean image..... I understand. You're secret is safe with me ;)
The fact that you say, I would be the next bodybuilding phenom if I juiced boggles my mind.... Look up naturals like Doug Miller, Kareem Petteway, Layne Norton (who I've known personally for many years) If I am the next bodybuilding phenom if I juiced - then they would be gods!!!
My avatar I was 176 at weigh in... the amount of mass, and dieting - why can't it be a result of MANY years of training and NAILING my diet!!! I have yet to ever replicate that condition again!
This is my avatar....
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)
This was the same morning before the competition....
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510frontbis.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510sidechest.jpg)
You really think this is not attainable natural? As proud as I am of where I've come - I Still have A LOT more work to do, and am still surpassed by a ton of other natural athletes!!! Have some higher expectations man!!!
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BigAch has admitted to taking "Legal Designer Steroids"
He has taken endogenous hormones to increase his muscularity. Therefore he is not natural according to most natural organizations. The only org that allows naturals to take designer steroids is the NPC. That's why NPC natural shows are the butt of many jokes.
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BigAch has admitted to taking "Legal Designer Steroids"
He has taken endogenous hormones to increase his muscularity. Therefore he is not natural according to most natural organizations. The only org that allows naturals to take designer steroids is the NPC. That's why NPC natural shows are the butt of many jokes.
Actually you are wrong... I've openly admitted to using pro-hormones in the past, which have been acceptable in EVERY natural organization out there! I have competed in both the OCB and the NGA, and passed their drug tests, both lie detector and urinalysis.... Never competed in the NPC!
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lol they have polygraphy tests in bbing?
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Big ACH is a fat attention whore who posts everything about his not much happening life but he i believe he is natural and he diets hard to get into contest shape
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Id say without a doubt Ach is natural...
good genetics, great pumps, hardcore dedication....
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I've always been a Big 'BIG ACH' fan.... always cheerful and a bon vivant, strong pyramidesque genetics and would definitely hang out with our crew.
Having said that.... anyone who thinks his physique isn't achievable naturally:
- Thinks everything hitting their video card is photoshopped
- Reads getbig too much
- All of the above
Enjoy it BIG ACH, the faceless will chase you and throw their feces at you. The real large men cheer for you and tap you on the back.
That's how this shithole rolls...
Time to bring back alfamaleforum.com.
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I've always been a Big 'BIG ACH' fan.... always cheerful and a bon vivant, strong pyramidesque genetics and would definitely hang out with our crew.
Having said that.... anyone who thinks his physique isn't achievable naturally:
- Thinks everything hitting their video card is photoshopped
- Reads getbig too much
- All of the above
Enjoy it BIG ACH, the faceless will chase you and throw their feces at you. The real large men cheer for you and tap you on the back.
That's how this shithole rolls...
Time to bring back alfamaleforum.com.
iono I definitely dont think his physique is out of the reach of a natural...
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iono I definitely dont think his physique is out of the reach of a natural...
I've seen your pics yesterday.. not too shabby yourself tony...
The faceless dialing in 3...2... 1...
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Who the fuck cars he could be built like arnie wouldn't change a dam fucking thing. He's one ugly ass guy. I mean fuck JNN is funny about is pathetic attention whoring. But this guy puts his ugly ass face, and name all over the internet. Worst part his he's so ok with being ugly as shit, he'd never be like that if he didn't grow up being a rich kid in some shitwhole like egypt. Man he's fucking ugly it this fucker is gonna have like 50 camel faced kids running around in ten years. Please leave the piss poor genetics out of our gene pool.
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Who the fuck cars he could be built like arnie wouldn't change a dam fucking thing. He's one ugly ass ####. I mean fuck JNN is funny about is pathetic attention whoring. But this guy puts his ugly ass face, and name all over the internet. Worst part his he's so ok with being ugly as shit, he'd never be like that if he didn't grow up being a rich kid in some shitwhole like egypt. Man he's fucking ugly it this fucker is gonna have like 50 camel faced kids running around in ten years. Please leave the piss poor genetics out of our gene pool.
Meltdown with Cheese. let's see some pics "big guy"...
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the photoshop queen has graced us with his real account
whats the occasion fatman?
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Meltdown with Cheese. let's see some pics "big guy"...
Yes that was a meltdown, see I'd have to block out my face, which would tip the scales in his favour 1000 percent, however I'm far better looking than him. IT's really not hard, he's by far the ugliest person on here, as I said so ugly he wouldn't show his face if he wasn't the greatest egyptian export.
I mean seriously who the fuck can shake a candle stick to this amount of ugly. I know this is suppose to be a bodybuilding forum, but at some point a face like that should be kept hidden.
Just to make a proper comparison between true ugly and him.
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Alex23 - thanks for the props - you're a cool guy too!!!
As for lundgren - I guess its a good think I found a girl who loves me regardless of my ugliness :D
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Yes that was a meltdown, see I'd have to block out my face, which would tip the scales in his favour 1000 percent, however I'm far better looking than him. IT's really not hard, he's by far the ugliest person on here, as I said so ugly he wouldn't show his face if he wasn't the greatest egyptian export.
I mean seriously who the fuck can shake a candle stick to this amount of ugly. I know this is suppose to be a bodybuilding forum, but at some point a face like that should be kept hidden.
You realize you're "debating" how handsome or not a another man is.... while everyone else is talking bodybuilding...
Doesn't get more foreskin chaser than that...
throw some pixels at us chief.... let us be the judge...
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i think he has tried test boosters and other supplements but definately not pharmaceutical drugs..
looks natural to me
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Alex23 - thanks for the props - you're a cool guy too!!!
As for lundgren - I guess its a good think I found a girl who loves me regardless of my ugliness :D
I'm sorry dude I just got up at 330 am, to study chem, so their might be some projections against your MCE :D
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I'm sorry dude I just got up at 330 am, to study chem, so their might be some projections against your MCE :D
All good, I took chem in undergrad and it fucking sucked! Good luck I'm gonna crash its late!
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Actually you are wrong... I've openly admitted to using pro-hormones in the past, which have been acceptable in EVERY natural organization out there! I have competed in both the OCB and the NGA, and passed their drug tests, both lie detector and urinalysis.... Never competed in the NPC!
You have taken substances that when ingested convert into active anabolic steroids. You are not natural. This is a fact independent of whether you pass the particular rules for being considered natural in a bodybuilding organization.
The NGA allows for OTC designer steroids and pro-hormones. By openly allowing legal anabolic steroids this makes their shows non-natural. The OCB banned most pro-hormones and some legal designer steroids in 2005.
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The bottom line....... Look at Big Ach's avatar. You think that's natty?
I don't think so. That combination of muscle density, muscle fullness and cuts = steroids.
Good job though man, it looks good.
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He is a VERY nice guy but the natural thing is bull shit. Why lie, is beyond me. I guess it makes people feel special.
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The bottom line....... Look at Big Ach's avatar. You think that's natty?
I don't think so. That combination of muscle density, muscle fullness and cuts = steroids.
Good job though man, it looks good.
HAHAHAHAHA fuck you're gay.... I bet "BrownEyeFaggedStar" can "dig deep" ::)
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HAHAHAHAHA fuck you're gay.... I bet "BrownEyeFaggedStar" can "dig deep" ::)
Dude you are a joke.
And the fact that you can't see it for yourself makes you psychotic.
And you are another one of those guys who does gear for sure and claims to be natty.
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Dude you are a joke.
And the fact that you can't see it for yourself makes you psychotic.
And you are another one of those guys who does gear for sure and claims to be natty.
No one cares "BackFagSmore"... stop taking the internet seriously and enjoy....
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No one cares "BackFagSmore"... stop taking the internet seriously and enjoy....
Carry on. You're better than hiring a clown.
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Cool guy. Proof is in this thread.
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i hate big ach, you cant ever get him mad when you make fun of him =/
and yes i belive he is natural, but a good and well build natural. cool guy to.
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his gums certainly aren't...
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sure he is.. dont forget the GAG factor 8)
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No way! Na-a. He's very narrow dude, but that can't be helped with steroids. Those arms scream steroids. It's not possible for someone to have chest that full of striations and still have that arm fullness naturally.
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Great guy,great physique,no roids,period. 8)
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Great guy,great physique,no roids,period. 8)
hi big ach
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His engineering acumen is most impressive.
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his gums certainly aren't...
LOL fuck you hahaha ;D
Ok I just woke up, nice to see that there are some people here that do believe I'm natural!
No way! Na-a. He's very narrow dude, but that can't be helped with steroids. Those arms scream steroids. It's not possible for someone to have chest that full of striations and still have that arm fullness naturall
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
;)
So because I know how to get ripped for shows and the separation I can achieve, thats why you guys have come to the conclusion that I'm on the sauce? What kind of steroid handbook has stated that deep muscle density and chest striations are indicators of steroid use? Please guys LOL This isn't the first time i've heard this stuff. A bunch of my college buddies were juicers and I was bigger than one of them so he always accused me of taking massive amounts of test and he went around behind my back telling people he was CERTAIN I was on stuff, I fucking cracked up!
You have taken substances that when ingested convert into active anabolic steroids. You are not natural. This is a fact independent of whether you pass the particular rules for being considered natural in a bodybuilding organization.
The NGA allows for OTC designer steroids and pro-hormones. By openly allowing legal anabolic steroids this makes their shows non-natural. The OCB banned most pro-hormones and some legal designer steroids in 2005.
MMC78, I have Always openly admitted to the use of pro-hormones in the past, never hid that. In ten years of training, I have tried pro-hormones twice, If you want to go ahead and call me not natural, thats fine, I don't blame you. But like I said ANY natural organization in existance can and will let me compete, to them I am natural - so thats the definition of natural that matters to me! After all, There are some people out there that consider supplement use not natural, they think creatine is cheating.... So where do you draw the line? To me (and the natural competitions that I compete in), the use of illegal ANABOLIC STEROIDS, GH, INSULIN is NOT natural - And thats the only definition that will ever matter to me!
I got nothing against the concept of using juice and the people who use, some of my bestest friends are juicers.... But its not for me, I'm happy with where I've come without them and look forward to seeing how far I can go without them! Thats all!
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I think you are mostly natural (apart from your prohormone usage); personally your engineering accomplishments are more impressive to me than your bbing ones but that is just my opinion.
LOL fuck you hahaha ;D
Ok I just woke up, nice to see that there are some people here that do believe I'm natural!
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
;)
So because I know how to get ripped for shows and the separation I can achieve, thats why you guys have come to the conclusion that I'm on the sauce? What kind of steroid handbook has stated that deep muscle density and chest striations are indicators of steroid use? Please guys LOL This isn't the first time i've heard this stuff. A bunch of my college buddies were juicers and I was bigger than one of them so he always accused me of taking massive amounts of test and he went around my back telling people he was CERTAIN I was on stuff, I fucking cracked up!
MMC78, I have Always openly admitted to the use of pro-hormones in the past, never hid that. In ten years of training, I have tried pro-hormones twice, If you want to go ahead and call me not natural, thats fine, I don't blame you. But like I said ANY natural organization in existance can and will let me compete, to them I am natural - so thats the definition of natural that matters to me! After all, There are some people out there that consider supplement use not natural, they think creatine is cheating.... So where do you draw the line? To me (and the natural competitions that I compete in), the use of illegal ANABOLIC STEROIDS, GH, INSULIN is NOT natural - And thats the only definition that will ever matter to me!
I got nothing against the concept of using juice and the people who use, some of my bestest friends are juicers.... But its not for me, I'm happy with where I've come without them and look forward to seeing how far I can go without them! Thats all!
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I think you are mostly natural (apart from your prohormone usage); personally your engineering accomplishments are more impressive to me than your bbing ones but that is just my opinion.
Thanks bro! Engineering is a bitch and a half - glad to have gotten through that stuff, and still fighting in the PhD lol I've learned more at work though than I did in school - guess it just gives you a base and a way of thinking like they say!
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What did prohormones do for you Ach? Were they any good?
How old are you? Are you at university?
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its a good compliment for a natural bb to be accused of steroids, that means that you are doing something ritght with your training
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What did prohormones do for you Ach? Were they any good?
I tried some of those Andro Poppers by pinnacle back in the day lolll - those Didn't do SHIT! I also tried M1T and I BLEW up on that, that shit WORKS.... but a few weeks after getting off that and using 6-OXO, I went back to my normal size!
its a good compliment for a natural bb to be accused of steroids, that means that you are doing something ritght with your training
Yup Yup!
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21, studying business.
i Oslo?
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My own thread YAAAY! ;D You just made my day!
You haven't arrived until you've had at least five threads about you: Alex23, arvilla, Bay, Howard, sevastase . . . 8)
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You haven't arrived until you've had at least five threads about you: Alex23, arvilla, Bay, Howard, sevastase . . . 8)
LOL - when I grow up I wanna be just like Bay (But straight LOL)
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Ja.. www.bi.no (http://www.bi.no)
Business....hmm. I guess it's a good choice.
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DK check your PM!
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how big is his cock? ???
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how big is his cock? ???
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!
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HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!
Good, because in life, that is what is truly important. ;D
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M1T is a very powerful oral steroid, not a 'pro-hormone'.
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M1T is a very powerful oral steroid, not a 'pro-hormone'.
Okay
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Okay
One would think you would have researched the compound a little more thoroughly before trying it, what with you being a lifetime natural 'n all. :D
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One would think you would have researched the compound a little more thoroughly before trying it, what with you being a lifetime natural 'n all. :D
Researched it plenty.... and hasn't effected my competitions in anyway, since I'm still competing in natural organizations and am totally open with them about what I've used in the past! ;)
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Researched it plenty....
...except you thought it was a pro-hormone. :-\
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HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!
how much for an hour, big boy?
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...except you thought it was a pro-hormone. :-\
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how much for an hour, big boy?
Not for sale ;D
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do they drug test you before shows?
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do they drug test you before shows?
Yes both polygraph and urine test!
I've never done a show where I wasn't tested!
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M1T is a very powerful oral steroid, not a 'pro-hormone'.
Very powerful in terms of side effects...I used 15 mg over two days and i couldn't take the side effects..the lethargic was terrible, that i slept for three days..My testes also atrophied after 3 freaking steroid pills.
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Yes both polygraph and urine test!
I've never done a show where I wasn't tested!
polygraphs make me nervous that its gonna show up incorrectly
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Very powerful in terms of side effects...I used 15 mg over two days and i couldn't take the side effects..the lethargic was terrible, that i slept for three days..My testes also atrophied after 3 freaking steroid pills.
Say what? Come on, man.
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polygraphs make me nervous that its gonna show up incorrectly
I'm always nervous that it will show up incorrectly.... Everyone I know gets nervous while taking them.
The fact that its a cop there giving you the test and being so serious! just doesn't help!
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How is taking prohormones with worse sideeffects than steroids and less gains any better than doing the real thing?
I think it's kinda stupid? Is it just to be able to call yourself a natural? No offence Ach..
Well natural organizations were allowing them, call yourself whatever you want but stick to the rules if you want to compete in certain organizations!
There's also the legal factor bro!
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Say what? Come on, man.
Yes that is true man..I was also clean for 8 weeks to...
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How is taking prohormones with worse sideeffects than steroids and less gains any better than doing the real thing?
I think it's kinda stupid? Is it just to be able to call yourself a natural? No offence Ach..
No getting over the psychological hurdle of using a needle. It's a lot more invasive than just taking a pill.
Ya there's steroids in pill form etc, but you know what I mean.
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That's not a problem in Egypt though ;D.
No its not - but I compete in the US, so even though I was living in Egypt and had access to all these LEGAL and CHEAP steroids, I had to abide by the rules of the natural organizations I was competing with abroad!
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No getting over the psychological hurdle of using a needle. It's a lot more invasive than just taking a pill.
Ya there's steroids in pill form etc, but you know what I mean.
That too - I can't stand needles, scare the shit out of me! couldn't imagine having to inject myself!!! Just dont think i could ever do it!
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How is taking prohormones with worse sideeffects than steroids and less gains any better than doing the real thing?
I think it's kinda stupid? Is it just to be able to call yourself a natural? No offence Ach..
The side effects from dbol feel like pez, when you take m1t..
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Since you insist being a liar I will break it down for you
you are not nattie and a fucking liar
you do prohormones and a lot more shit than that
your genetics for muscle building are shitty. yet you maintain decent quality muscle
you dieted down in show shpe would be muscleless and flat as a pancake
you are another dude who cannot hack it cause you lack what it takes like DK
so you do natural organization which is pure BS.
the tests do not mean shit you , I and anyone you know can pass that shit easily
polygraph ?? you must think we are retards homei hahahahahahahaha
so : keep doing roids and bodybuild, but keep the nattie bravado to yourself
you are a user and a liar .. either shut up, or admit to what you use
you know, I know, your wife knows that you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT on the natural issue
LIAR
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Since you insist being a liar I will break it down for you
you are not nattie and a fucking liar
you do prohormones and a lot more shit than that
your genetics for muscle building are shitty. yet you maintain decent quality muscle
you dieted down in show shpe would be muscleless and flat as a pancake
you are another dude who cannot hack it cause you lack what it takes like DK
so you do natural organization which is pure BS.
the tests do not mean shit you , I and anyone you know can pass that shit easily
polygraph ?? you must think we are retards homei hahahahahahahaha
so : keep doing roids and bodybuild, but keep the nattie bravado to yourself
you are a user and a liar .. either shut up, or admit to what you use
you know, I know, your wife knows that you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT on the natural issue
LIAR
As much as I think you are a polesmoker I have to agree with you here, Big Ach is clearly bullshitting, which is a shame as it ruins the whole Gee Shucks persona he tried to cultivate here and reveals him as a narcissistic liar.
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That too - I can't stand needles, scare the shit out of me! couldn't imagine having to inject myself!!! Just dont think i could ever do it!
So do a lot of guys, but that's the price you pay to be jacked.
In your case you probably have a buddy or your wife that does it.
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Gee, Shucks, Lolll calling a natural a juicer is the biggest compliment that you can give him, so i guess i should be thanking you guys for the nice kind words aknowleging my effort, with that being said i had previously posted anyone who challenged me on my natural status, i will bet you $5,000 dollars that i can pass any drug test at a time of YOUR choosing, wel fuck that i will raise that to 10,000 dollars if you all truly think im juicing why dont you profit off it again i will do this at a time of your choosing so you know im not hiding anything, sorry boys i am natural, and by the way that gee schucks attitude is how i really am in real life!
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So do a lot of guys, but that's the price you pay to be jacked.
In your case you probably have a buddy or your wife that does it.
;D
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Actually you are wrong... I've openly admitted to using pro-hormones in the past, which have been acceptable in EVERY natural organization out there! I have competed in both the OCB and the NGA, and passed their drug tests, both lie detector and urinalysis.... Never competed in the NPC!
So if a natural organization allow you to use HGH ,Clen, Test..... etc. would you consider yourself natural ?
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Gee, Shucks, Lolll calling a natural a juicer is the biggest compliment that you can give him, so i guess i should be thanking you guys for the nice kind words aknowleging my effort, with that being said i had previously posted anyone who challenged me on my natural status, i will bet you $5,000 dollars that i can pass any drug test at a time of YOUR choosing, wel fuck that i will raise that to 10,000 dollars if you all truly think im juicing why dont you profit off it again i will do this at a time of your choosing so you know im not hiding anything, sorry boys i am natural, and by the way that gee schucks attitude is how i really am in real life!
Calm down gums......It's not that serious ::)
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Gee, Shucks, Lolll calling a natural a juicer is the biggest compliment that you can give him, so i guess i should be thanking you guys for the nice kind words aknowleging my effort, with that being said i had previously posted anyone who challenged me on my natural status, i will bet you $5,000 dollars that i can pass any drug test at a time of YOUR choosing, wel fuck that i will raise that to 10,000 dollars if you all truly think im juicing why dont you profit off it again i will do this at a time of your choosing so you know im not hiding anything, sorry boys i am natural, and by the way that gee schucks attitude is how i really am in real life!
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another natural bullshitter who looks like Coleman the beginner on smaller doses ...imagine him on steroidz ::)
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Q: Is Big Ach natural?
A: I first stepped on a bodybuilding stage in 1979, was a competitive strength athlete and bodybuilder for 16+/- years, worked at Gold's Venice for 7+ years, used and sold gear for many many years- I'm leaning towards the "no", but just leaning.
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I believe in his country that if you get caught using drugs, they will chop your arms off or something.
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I believe in his country that if you get caught using drugs, they will chop your arms off or something.
Hopefully in Achs case his nose ;D
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those gums aren't natural :o :o :o
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Gee, Shucks, Lolll calling a natural a juicer is the biggest compliment that you can give him, so i guess i should be thanking you guys for the nice kind words aknowleging my effort, with that being said i had previously posted anyone who challenged me on my natural status, i will bet you $5,000 dollars that i can pass any drug test at a time of YOUR choosing, wel fuck that i will raise that to 10,000 dollars if you all truly think im juicing why dont you profit off it again i will do this at a time of your choosing so you know im not hiding anything, sorry boys i am natural, and by the way that gee schucks attitude is how i really am in real life!
I don't think you're going to be able to convince people that don't believe you; you'd have to change their beliefs on what is and whats not achievable naturally. For some people, its pretty reasonable since its simply what they know from their experience. These experiences, like what THEY were able to achieve naturally, what they've seen (Friends, etc.), or what they believe from other sources (reading online, etc.), are what give them a reference point for what they think is possible to achieve. I have limits for what I would believe is achievable (and I might be right/wrong). In the end, as you said, just take it as a compliment that you've achieved something.
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i dont thik Big ach is lifetime natural
arms, vascularity, ripped chest ,
way too much fullness, seperation etc for lifetime nattie
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I don't think you're going to be able to convince people that don't believe you; you'd have to change their beliefs on what is and whats not achievable naturally. For some people, its pretty reasonable since its simply what they know from their experience. These experiences, like what THEY were able to achieve naturally, what they've seen (Friends, etc.), or what they believe from other sources (reading online, etc.), are what give them a reference point for what they think is possible to achieve. I have limits for what I would believe is achievable (and I might be right/wrong). In the end, as you said, just take it as a compliment that you've achieved something.
SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE YOU ARE GONE FOR GOOD FROM BODYBUILDING!
gh15 approved
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i think he is :)
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SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE YOU ARE GONE FOR GOOD FROM BODYBUILDING!
gh15 approved
Hahaha, WOW!
What does that even mean?
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why does it bother u guys so much?
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What does that even mean?
He is going to cut off your supply .
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I believe in his country that if you get caught using drugs, they will chop your arms off or something.
you believ wrong my friend,,
egypt and isreal is where we have majority of dealers sitting and liviung very large life,,all legal with vitamin p which you call vitamin push in the middle east areas ,,isreal is a diff catagory because the deaklers from israel are known and authorized by american goverment to deal into usa,,
so many of you dont knwo nothning,,
in addition stop pming me question about this idiot,,he is on hormones,,just sub average respond to them ,,you notice the picture you show me were taken off,,why? because thats where the tranformation occure,,he used pharma grades and ug ,,since this is a case of a fella living in ORLANDO FLORIDA USA WHERE IT IS CAPITAL OF HORMONE USERS IN USA ALONG MIAMI AND ALSO IN EGYPT THE CONNECTION IS VAST ,,he does not even compete clean because duretic in system ,,
this is what i do not like about this cult,,i do not understand why would a joke like that even if 20 something will sit on steroid and bodybuilding board and lie so much,,why would someone do this ,,well to begin with he has web page and try to push his needs through it and its a beggining for why lie,,second he think he can go the sagi kalev way which he cant his genetic is not good enough ,,genetic repond that is,,then he think he has a chance to be like myoshi from the positive board,,what he dont understand is that jrod and myoshi have better genetic response to the shit they order on a REGULAR BASIS,,
third and most importantly friends,,peptides eventhough not controled are NOT NATURAL ,,THEY ARE AT TIMES STRONGER THAN AAS,,SAME FOR LEGAL STEROIDS WHICH ARE NOT LEGAL AND ARE IN MOST CASES STRONGER THAN ORAL STEROIDS BECAUSE THEY ARE HARSHER AND THATS WHY NEVER PUT IN MARKET TO BEGIUN WITH,,
lastly injection,,no one that is 24 7 on bodybulding board is scared of them ,,infact most of the fellas here are addicted to injections and its their life style and base,,
IT IS NOT FAIR THAT A FEKLLA LIKE STAVIO THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS CHIMP WILL SIT HERE AND TLEL HIS LIFE STORY WITH OUT LIEING AND BE HONEST TO THE T AND THIS CHIP MONK WILL SIT HERE AND LIE LIE LIE AND LIE MORE WITH THE PASSING OF IT ALL DUE TO HIS HUMOUR AND GOOD HEART...HE MAY BE FRIENDLY BUDDY BUDD BUT REST ASSURE HE IS AS HORMONIZED AS STAVIO IF NOT MORE,,
MIDDLE EASTERN ARAB FELLAS HAVE THE TENDENCY TO BE VERY VERY VERY SOFT,,GENETICALLY SOFT UNLESS VERY SKINNY,,GET IT IN YOUR HEAD,,HIS NATURAL WEIGHT ,,TRUE NATURAL WEIGHT IS 160LB NOT EVEN A LB OVER AT 8-10%
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Hahaha, WOW!
What does that even mean?
BECAUSE THERE ARE GUYS RISKING THEIR FREEDOM AND LIFE FOR THIS PIECE OF SHITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FELLAS SIT HERE AND LIE AND GUYS RISK THEIR LIFE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR YOUR SORRY ASSES,,YES THEY ARE VERY RICH BUT THEY RISK THEIR LIFE SO YOU CAN GET BIG!
HAVE SOME RESPECT AND DIGNITY YOU GENERATION OF NOTHING
gh15 approved
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SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE YOU ARE GONE FOR GOOD FROM BODYBUILDING!
gh15 approved
Hahaha, WOW!
What does that even mean?
It means GH's Genetics are lack luster at best.
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BECAUSE THERE ARE GUYS RISKING THEIR FREEDOM AND LIFE FOR THIS PIECE OF SHITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FELLAS SIT HERE AND LIE AND GUYS RISK THEIR LIFE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR YOUR SORRY ASSES,,YES THEY ARE VERY RICH BUT THEY RISK THEIR LIFE SO YOU CAN GET BIG!
HAVE SOME RESPECT AND DIGNITY YOU GENERATION OF NOTHING
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Risking their lives staying natural? you've completely lost it.
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why does it bother u guys so much?
It doesn't bother me. But GH15 seems a bit bothered.
He is going to cut off your supply .
Haha, nah, he wouldn't refuse my money ;).
BECAUSE THERE ARE GUYS RISKING THEIR FREEDOM AND LIFE FOR THIS PIECE OF SHITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FELLAS SIT HERE AND LIE AND GUYS RISK THEIR LIFE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR YOUR SORRY ASSES,,YES THEY ARE VERY RICH BUT THEY RISK THEIR LIFE SO YOU CAN GET BIG!
HAVE SOME RESPECT AND DIGNITY YOU GENERATION OF NOTHING
gh15 approved
I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be making a very big deal of out of this.
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Risking their lives staying natural? you've completely lost it.
risking their lives supplying you with your research product,,with your peptide,,with your eq and test ,,with your chinease and american gh ,,with your needles,,with your bacteriostatic water ,,with all of the shit you are too pussy to get from a pharma ,,
you got GOOD GOOD GUYS THAT RISK THEIR LIVES FOR YOU ON AMERICAN LAND,,THEY ARE PATRIOTS ,THEY ARE THE REASON YOU CAN WALK AROUND WITH YOUR CHEST AND LATS OPEN AND GET THE CHIC IN THOSE CLUB YOU VISIT TO SUCK YORU COCK AT THE END OF THE NIGHT,,THOS GUYS ARE THE REASON ,,YOU BETTER SHOW APPRECIATION TO THE WATER FOUNTAIN AND ATLEAST DONT LIE!
gh15 approved
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you believ wrong my friend,,
egypt and isreal is where we have majority of dealers sitting and liviung very large life,,all legal with vitamin p which you call vitamin push in the middle east areas ,,isreal is a diff catagory because the deaklers from israel are known and authorized by american goverment to deal into usa,,
so many of you dont knwo nothning,,
in addition stop pming me question about this idiot,,he is on hormones,,just sub average respond to them ,,you notice the picture you show me were taken off,,why? because thats where the tranformation occure,,he used pharma grades and ug ,,since this is a case of a fella living in ORLANDO FLORIDA USA WHERE IT IS CAPITAL OF HORMONE USERS IN USA ALONG MIAMI AND ALSO IN EGYPT THE CONNECTION IS VAST ,,he does not even compete clean because duretic in system ,,
this is what i do not like about this cult,,i do not understand why would a joke like that even if 20 something will sit on steroid and bodybuilding board and lie so much,,why would someone do this ,,well to begin with he has web page and try to push his needs through it and its a beggining for why lie,,second he think he can go the sagi kalev way which he cant his genetic is not good enough ,,genetic repond that is,,then he think he has a chance to be like myoshi from the positive board,,what he dont understand is that jrod and myoshi have better genetic response to the shit they order on a REGULAR BASIS,,
third and most importantly friends,,peptides eventhough not controled are NOT NATURAL ,,THEY ARE AT TIMES STRONGER THAN AAS,,SAME FOR LEGAL STEROIDS WHICH ARE NOT LEGAL AND ARE IN MOST CASES STRONGER THAN ORAL STEROIDS BECAUSE THEY ARE HARSHER AND THATS WHY NEVER PUT IN MARKET TO BEGIUN WITH,,
lastly injection,,no one that is 24 7 on bodybulding board is scared of them ,,infact most of the fellas here are addicted to injections and its their life style and base,,
IT IS NOT FAIR THAT A FEKLLA LIKE STAVIO THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS CHIMP WILL SIT HERE AND TLEL HIS LIFE STORY WITH OUT LIEING AND BE HONEST TO THE T AND THIS CHIP MONK WILL SIT HERE AND LIE LIE LIE AND LIE MORE WITH THE PASSING OF IT ALL DUE TO HIS HUMOUR AND GOOD HEART...HE MAY BE FRIENDLY BUDDY BUDD BUT REST ASSURE HE IS AS HORMONIZED AS STAVIO IF NOT MORE,,
MIDDLE EASTERN ARAB FELLAS HAVE THE TENDENCY TO BE VERY VERY VERY SOFT,,GENETICALLY SOFT UNLESS VERY SKINNY,,GET IT IN YOUR HEAD,,HIS NATURAL WEIGHT ,,TRUE NATURAL WEIGHT IS 160LB NOT EVEN A LB OVER AT 8-10%
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Are you talking about jrod or Arch?
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risking their lives supplying you with your research product,,with your peptide,,with your eq and test ,,with your chinease and american gh ,,with your needles,,with your bacteriostatic water ,,with all of the shit you are too pussy to get from a pharma ,,
you got GOOD GOOD GUYS THAT RISK THEIR LIVES FOR YOU ON AMERICAN LAND,,THEY ARE PATRIOTS ,THEY ARE THE REASON YOU CAN WALK AROUND WITH YOUR CHEST AND LATS OPEN AND GET THE CHIC IN THOSE CLUB YOU VISIT TO SUCK YORU COCK AT THE END OF THE NIGHT,,THOS GUYS ARE THE REASON ,,YOU BETTER SHOW APPRECIATION TO THE WATER FOUNTAIN AND ATLEAST DONT LIE!
gh15 approved
I think you may have hit an artery... Logic is no longer a guide.
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I think you may have hit an artery... Logic is no longer a guide.
The day gh15 admits a guy could possibly be natural while having a decent amount of muscle will be the same day Bay will admit that it's possible to be interested in bodybuilding without being gay or for GThong to make a post everyone understands.
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roids are good if used safe :) i use em and dont give a fuck what anyone says ;D
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(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510frontbis.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510sidechest.jpg)
i lean towards natural... great physique but limbs are very long (are U tall?)= weak arms...
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The day gh15 admits a guy could possibly be natural while having a decent amount of muscle will be the same day Bay will admit that it's possible to be interested in bodybuilding without being gay or for GThong to make a post everyone understands.
LOL
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SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE YOU ARE GONE FOR GOOD FROM BODYBUILDING!
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Legendary gh15 response.
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The day gh15 admits a guy could possibly be natural while having a decent amount of muscle will be the same day Bay will admit that it's possible to be interested in bodybuilding without being gay or for GThong to make a post everyone understands.
QFT
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just joking im natural
Good natural physique CYP , props .
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you believ wrong my friend,,
egypt and isreal is where we have majority of dealers sitting and liviung very large life,,all legal with vitamin p which you call vitamin push in the middle east areas ,,isreal is a diff catagory because the deaklers from israel are known and authorized by american goverment to deal into usa,,
so many of you dont knwo nothning,,
in addition stop pming me question about this idiot,,he is on hormones,,just sub average respond to them ,,you notice the picture you show me were taken off,,why? because thats where the tranformation occure,,he used pharma grades and ug ,,since this is a case of a fella living in ORLANDO FLORIDA USA WHERE IT IS CAPITAL OF HORMONE USERS IN USA ALONG MIAMI AND ALSO IN EGYPT THE CONNECTION IS VAST ,,he does not even compete clean because duretic in system ,,
this is what i do not like about this cult,,i do not understand why would a joke like that even if 20 something will sit on steroid and bodybuilding board and lie so much,,why would someone do this ,,well to begin with he has web page and try to push his needs through it and its a beggining for why lie,,second he think he can go the sagi kalev way which he cant his genetic is not good enough ,,genetic repond that is,,then he think he has a chance to be like myoshi from the positive board,,what he dont understand is that jrod and myoshi have better genetic response to the shit they order on a REGULAR BASIS,,
third and most importantly friends,,peptides eventhough not controled are NOT NATURAL ,,THEY ARE AT TIMES STRONGER THAN AAS,,SAME FOR LEGAL STEROIDS WHICH ARE NOT LEGAL AND ARE IN MOST CASES STRONGER THAN ORAL STEROIDS BECAUSE THEY ARE HARSHER AND THATS WHY NEVER PUT IN MARKET TO BEGIUN WITH,,
lastly injection,,no one that is 24 7 on bodybulding board is scared of them ,,infact most of the fellas here are addicted to injections and its their life style and base,,
IT IS NOT FAIR THAT A FEKLLA LIKE STAVIO THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS CHIMP WILL SIT HERE AND TLEL HIS LIFE STORY WITH OUT LIEING AND BE HONEST TO THE T AND THIS CHIP MONK WILL SIT HERE AND LIE LIE LIE AND LIE MORE WITH THE PASSING OF IT ALL DUE TO HIS HUMOUR AND GOOD HEART...HE MAY BE FRIENDLY BUDDY BUDD BUT REST ASSURE HE IS AS HORMONIZED AS STAVIO IF NOT MORE,,
MIDDLE EASTERN ARAB FELLAS HAVE THE TENDENCY TO BE VERY VERY VERY SOFT,,GENETICALLY SOFT UNLESS VERY SKINNY,,GET IT IN YOUR HEAD,,HIS NATURAL WEIGHT ,,TRUE NATURAL WEIGHT IS 160LB NOT EVEN A LB OVER AT 8-10%
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It was a joke your excellency ;)
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was just joking im not...bash away :-*
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was just joking im not...bash away :-*
Red Beets called and wanted to know if you were interested in joining the Vegetable group
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was just joking im not...bash away :-*
Legs look natural
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dont get what ur saying
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dont get what ur saying
High androgens=high blood pressure=red beet face. Just playing :D
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Brutal Non Existant delts and chest and hands out of a frankenstein movie.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354035.0;attach=389635;image)
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i get sun burn easy.. lol its all good i can take a joke thats why i love this site ;D
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hers my legs fuck stick post ur pics
Nice drumsticks. ;D
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post u pics or get the fuck out
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hers my legs fuck stick post ur pics
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354035.0;attach=389636;image)
Nice camera on your phone, nearly as good as your calves!
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you believ wrong my friend,,
egypt and isreal is where we have majority of dealers sitting and liviung very large life,,all legal with vitamin p which you call vitamin push in the middle east areas ,,isreal is a diff catagory because the deaklers from israel are known and authorized by american goverment to deal into usa,,
so many of you dont knwo nothning,,
in addition stop pming me question about this idiot,,he is on hormones,,just sub average respond to them ,,you notice the picture you show me were taken off,,why? because thats where the tranformation occure,,he used pharma grades and ug ,,since this is a case of a fella living in ORLANDO FLORIDA USA WHERE IT IS CAPITAL OF HORMONE USERS IN USA ALONG MIAMI AND ALSO IN EGYPT THE CONNECTION IS VAST ,,he does not even compete clean because duretic in system ,,
this is what i do not like about this cult,,i do not understand why would a joke like that even if 20 something will sit on steroid and bodybuilding board and lie so much,,why would someone do this ,,well to begin with he has web page and try to push his needs through it and its a beggining for why lie,,second he think he can go the sagi kalev way which he cant his genetic is not good enough ,,genetic repond that is,,then he think he has a chance to be like myoshi from the positive board,,what he dont understand is that jrod and myoshi have better genetic response to the shit they order on a REGULAR BASIS,,
third and most importantly friends,,peptides eventhough not controled are NOT NATURAL ,,THEY ARE AT TIMES STRONGER THAN AAS,,SAME FOR LEGAL STEROIDS WHICH ARE NOT LEGAL AND ARE IN MOST CASES STRONGER THAN ORAL STEROIDS BECAUSE THEY ARE HARSHER AND THATS WHY NEVER PUT IN MARKET TO BEGIUN WITH,,
lastly injection,,no one that is 24 7 on bodybulding board is scared of them ,,infact most of the fellas here are addicted to injections and its their life style and base,,
IT IS NOT FAIR THAT A FEKLLA LIKE STAVIO THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS CHIMP WILL SIT HERE AND TLEL HIS LIFE STORY WITH OUT LIEING AND BE HONEST TO THE T AND THIS CHIP MONK WILL SIT HERE AND LIE LIE LIE AND LIE MORE WITH THE PASSING OF IT ALL DUE TO HIS HUMOUR AND GOOD HEART...HE MAY BE FRIENDLY BUDDY BUDD BUT REST ASSURE HE IS AS HORMONIZED AS STAVIO IF NOT MORE,,
MIDDLE EASTERN ARAB FELLAS HAVE THE TENDENCY TO BE VERY VERY VERY SOFT,,GENETICALLY SOFT UNLESS VERY SKINNY,,GET IT IN YOUR HEAD,,HIS NATURAL WEIGHT ,,TRUE NATURAL WEIGHT IS 160LB NOT EVEN A LB OVER AT 8-10%
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BabelFish failed me.
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impressive.. good to see people on here who train legs properly
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Brutal Non Existant delts and chest and hands out of a frankenstein movie.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354035.0;attach=389635;image)
Epic needing weight belt so he doesn't hurt his back in the locker room while simply taking a photo ;D
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legs look good props man .. lets see rest
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legs look good props man .. lets see rest
I don't train my upper body ,sorry .
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che only one posting pics lets see everyone elses..
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ur joking rite? well ur legs look good man no hate from me
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ur joking rite?
I'm not
Today
(http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/322595/progresspic/999orig.jpg)
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che only one posting pics lets see everyone elses..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/clsleg3.jpg)
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Big Ach seems like a really nice guy.
But he's claiming to be natural......
What do you think? Smells like bullshit to me.
he has confided in me that he in fact has used in the past with less than ideal results....here is the qoute
i have tried many different steroids, as well as growth hormone. I stopped because it all went to my teeth, and nose. i made no other gains to speak of off of these supposed "enhancers"
;D
bench
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he has confided in me that he in fact has used in the past with less than ideal results....here is the qoute
;D
bench
Hhaaha,
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he has confided in me that he in fact has used in the past with less than ideal results....here is the qoute
;D
bench
:D
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/clsleg3.jpg)
Good legs man .
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good legs props to ya!! :)
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i worked out one time....wasnt for me...
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props to all who posted pics u all look good!!! keep up the good work..
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post u pics or get the fuck out
If by this you mean me, then you need to get used to disappointment. ;D I am far too old and wise (and too fugly) to put up photographs of myself on the internet. I am also a natural; a genuine physical culturist and what I have built over the years is all me. No drugs. When I stop training, I don't shrink up instantly, my strength remains fairly constant and I just eat less so as not to become too fat.
Like I said, what I have is all mine and there is much to said for doing it the right way. ;)
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i dont judge people for being on gear or not ... natural or not alot of the pics ive seen of people on here look good.. what i said was a joke thats why i like this site u guys crack me up with some of the shit that gets said on here .i didnt post my pics thinking im the shit im far from it.. i know i will get ripped apart by most on here and i can take it.. :)
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Hey guys....
Just got back from a 2 and a half hour work out!!! ;)
First of all, cyp200la - you look awesome, mad props man, well balanced and great size!!!
Jrod, thanks for your props and support, means a lot coming from a guy like you!!! Really man, I appreciate it!
For those who asked, I'm about 6 feet or so - maybe 5'11....
I dunno what more to say lolll... I've been training seriously for about 10 years, didn't really start paying attention to my diet til like 3 years into it.
I understand the guys saying I'm not natural because I've used pro-hormones in the past, everyone has their definition (Musclemania considers HGH natural), but to the ones saying I've used more than pro-hormones, that I've used injectables and illegal steroids, you are all just waaaaay off... I wish you guys would change that mentality, not because I care that you are all accusing me of juicing, but because its that mentality that will hold you back from really going far and reaching your goals. When I first started bodybuilding I pretty much decided I would never use steroids or HGH or anything like that.... and I have been tempted, especitally while living in Egypt in a country where its legal and cheap, but as the years went by that decision pretty much became solidified.... but when I first started lifting I said my goal is to look like I juice without really doing it, I said I want to look like ARNOLD without takeing anything that he took, thats always been and continues to be what I strive for! I may never reach it but I will continue to strive for it!
I eat a ton, especially in the off-season, there was a time when I was eating 4000-5000 calories, overkill but I GOT STRONG and I got up to 265 lbs, - I train everyday for 2-3 hours, and I've been doing this for 10 years, and my training style really hasn't changed much since i started, I diverged away from some power movements because when I first started lifting I was playing Football (American football) and our focus was on explosive movements! Never injected myself and never ever taken anything illegal, yes I did pro hormones twice for a few weeks.... but we are talking twice in 10 years! lol
Trust me guys get that mentality of genetic limitations out of your mind, get the myths like not eating a lot, and over training out of your heads....
One time back in 2004, this pro female bodybuilder was judging the second show I was competing at and when I won my class I asked her for advice on how I can improve for next year, her words were "Lift weights like there is no tomorrow" - I never forgot that line!
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i dont judge people for being on gear or not ... natural or not alot of the pics ive seen of people on here look good.. what i said was a joke thats why i like this site u guys crack me up with some of the shit that gets said on here .i didnt post my pics thinking im the shit im far from it.. i know i will get ripped apart by most on here and i can take it.. :)
I too, have a sense of humor about myself. But as far as drugs are concerned, I'm against them. It may add (albeit temporarily) to your physique but it takes away from your character and believe me, character is easier kept than reclaimed. All the best.
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i dont judge people for being on gear or not ... natural or not alot of the pics ive seen of people on here look good.. what i said was a joke thats why i like this site u guys crack me up with some of the shit that gets said on here .i didnt post my pics thinking im the shit im far from it.. i know i will get ripped apart by most on here and i can take it.. :)
i only judge people on how much money they make...i hate poor people....especially if they are midgets, or wizards!!!...and dont even get me started on skeletons wearing horse costumes!!
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i only judge people on how much money they make...i hate poor people....especially if they are midgets, or wizards!!!...and dont even get me started on skeletons wearing horse costumes!!
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LOLLLL @ Wizards hahahahah that was fucking awesome! ;D
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do you lose your natural status if you use ephedra?
other than (maybe) that, Big Ach's physique is certainly attainable naturally. To think otherwise is laughable.
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LOLLLL @ Wizards hahahahah that was fucking awesome! ;D
they arent to be trusted....and where do these fucking midgets, and people in wheelchairs get off thinking they are real people....the nerve of those bastards!!!
bench
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i hate poor people....
bench
:'(
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do you lose your natural status if you use ephedra?
other than (maybe) that, Big Ach's physique is certainly attainable naturally. To think otherwise is laughable.
Now you do thats its illegal.... I used it when it was still legal and the natural orgs allowed it. But now its not allowed.
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:'(
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lmao u guys r the reason i come to this site... trust me if i could do it all over again i would never have tried em.. shit wish i never walked into a gym,all i do is eat train and sleep no free time to do anything else. and in my opinon bodybuilding is all drugs...
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Big Ache is a great guy, always gives me great advices on lifting. Whether your natty or not I don't know, I'm leaning a little towards no. But you still got a good physique and miles ahead of even some hardcore gym juicers.
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bench love the pic
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lmao u guys r the reason i come to this site... trust me if i could do it all over again i would never have tried em.. shit wish i never walked into a gym,all i do is eat train and sleep no free time to do anything else. and in my opinon bodybuilding is all drugs...
Cyp200la - Clermont is very close bro! We should definitely get together, maybe a work out and I'll try to keep up!!!
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Big Ache is a great guy, always gives me great advices on lifting. Whether your natty or not I don't know, I'm leaning a little towards no. But you still got a good physique and miles ahead of even some hardcore gym juicers.
Thanks for the kind words Sk.... much appreciated!
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sure man have to be on a weekend i will meet u at ur gym.. not this weekend but next if its good for u?
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lmao u guys r the reason i come to this site... trust me if i could do it all over again i would never have tried em.. shit wish i never walked into a gym,all i do is eat train and sleep no free time to do anything else. and in my opinon bodybuilding is all drugs...
if i could do it all over again i would have never stopped them....i loved that shit.....and yes...BB is all drugs...
bench
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sure man have to be on a weekend i will meet u at ur gym.. not this weekend but next if its good for u?
Next weekend may be good, lets talk next week! I train arms towards the end of the week, so maybe we can do that?
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bench u r the man!!! keep up the good work. and glad u agree with me, i mean loook at the pros as soon as they come of look what happens to them ...good night all been fun and ach ill get with u and train next weekend if u can just msg me
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Get a room queers, Ach will give you a reach around as he is desperate to find a supplier now he is out of Egypt where he could just buy it in the pharmacy.
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I do believe he is natural.
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army of one why such the hard on for ach ? u seem like a bitch to me post a pic u fucking fag or shut the fuck up u bottom bitch
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army of one why such the hard on for ach ? u seem like a bitch to me post a pic u fucking fag or shut the fuck up u bottom bitch
;D ;D
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
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;D ;D
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
uh no lollll
good question, why the said hard on for me? :D
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army of one ur a fag a douche and a bottom bitch... i bet ur 130 pounds .. u talk about my pics post urs up pussy!!
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shit wish i never walked into a gym,all i do is eat train and sleep no free time to do anything else.
No one has a gun to your head. Lift hard 3x a week for an hour and get on with other things.
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army of one ur a fag a douche and a bottom bitch... i bet ur 130 pounds .. u talk about my pics post urs up pussy!!
hear hear!
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anyone have a pic of what this bottom bitch army of zero looks like??? .. tapeworm its hard to stop once uve been on ..just being honest
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anyone have a pic of what this bottom bitch army of zero looks like??? .. tapeworm its hard to stop once uve been on ..just being honest
I wouldn't mind training back with you either brother!!! ;D
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anyone have a pic of what this bottom bitch army of zero looks like??? .. tapeworm its hard to stop once uve been on ..just being honest
Ive posted my pic here before Beetroot head, go do a search for it, now maybe you want to focus all your internal rage from when daddy touched you as a child on those non existant delts! :-*
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sounds good man. sorry u have a stalker in army of zero i bet hes got ur pics plasterd all over his walls!!!!
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sounds good man. sorry u have a stalker in army of zero i bet hes got ur pics plasterd all over his walls!!!!
;D
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dG4eyzmcEfI/TCkVFIpUSDI/AAAAAAAAAA8/VXUoMzFWW3Y/s320/steve-buscemi-billy-madison.jpg)
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army ur a pussy im sorry!!!! not taking time out of my night to look for ur pathetic pics... u talk so much shit about everyone why dont u try going to the gym and working out mabye u will get some where till then its ok u can keep swinging from my sack u :-*
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;D
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dG4eyzmcEfI/TCkVFIpUSDI/AAAAAAAAAA8/VXUoMzFWW3Y/s320/steve-buscemi-billy-madison.jpg)
Yes, your horse gums and giant nose make me think youd be amazing if I could train you for the Kentucky Derby ;D
(http://www.equine-world.co.uk/images/horse_000002286836X.jpg)
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Yes, your horse gums and giant nose make me think youd be amazing if I could train you for the Kentucky Derby ;D
(http://www.equine-world.co.uk/images/horse_000002286836X.jpg)
Naaaaah, I'd be too slow for that man! ;D never been much of a runner!
I'm a show horse baby!
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army ur a pussy im sorry!!!! not taking time out of my night to look for ur pathetic pics... u talk so much shit about everyone why dont u try going to the gym and working out mabye u will get some where till then its ok u can keep swinging from my sack u :-*
HAHA, its ok, Im sure all that Blood you have pooled in your head and face make it difficult to navigate through a webpage search ;D
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Why can't we all just get along?
Kumbaya! ;D
(http://www.greatdreams.com/political/bush_saudi.jpg)
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tapeworm its hard to stop once uve been on ..just being honest
I understand. If I were coming off again, I'd use Arimidex at 1mg a day for a week and .5 mg a day for another 3 or 4 weeks, then eod, e3d, etc down to 0. Also (from day 1) HCG at 500iu per day (use small insulin barrels if you need to split doses) for a couple weeks and then taper that down too over a month's time. Maybe overhang light Arimidex use by a week or two past the HCG depending on your mood. Hopefully this will get your nut function up and your estrogen (and moods) under control. If in doubt, ask a doc's advice.
Drugs or not, you don't have to just eat, train, and sleep. I'm sure there are other things you'd like to accomplish.
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dont get me wrong i own my own company and do other things but i cant stand missing one day at the gym. i have a bike i dont even ride friends i dont hang with and im sure im not the only one... army im just fucking with ya its the internet .. and tapeworm i go to a doc thats were i get my test. all i take is 300 mg week ive been of and on shit since i was 20 fucked up my own natural test levels... .. well going to bed good night all even u army of one :)
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The schmoe level is strong in this thread. All this talk about men and their bodies. :-\ :-\
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The schmoe level is strong in this thread. All this talk about men and their bodies. :-\ :-\
Do you have a big cock bro?
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chaos thanks for the heads up.. i owe u
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Congratulations!!!
Once you have a thread on getbig questioning whether you're natural or not; well, thats when you know you've made it.
In that case, I have made it and then some many times over for years now. Oh well, at least I am in good company.
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You picture Big Ach as this kind-hearted and innocent guy who you could trust with your housekeys or to babysit your kids.
Then you realize he slams needles into his ass to gain muscle.....
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(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510frontbis.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510sidechest.jpg)
i lean towards natural... great physique but limbs are very long (are U tall?)= weak arms...
weak arms?!? Take another look..........
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Big Ach is not roided or natural, he is CLEAN. Now that better. close the thread.
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LOL fuck you hahaha ;D
Ok I just woke up, nice to see that there are some people here that do believe I'm natural!
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
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So because I know how to get ripped for shows and the separation I can achieve, thats why you guys have come to the conclusion that I'm on the sauce? What kind of steroid handbook has stated that deep muscle density and chest striations are indicators of steroid use? Please guys LOL This isn't the first time i've heard this stuff. A bunch of my college buddies were juicers and I was bigger than one of them so he always accused me of taking massive amounts of test and he went around behind my back telling people he was CERTAIN I was on stuff, I fucking cracked up!
MMC78, I have Always openly admitted to the use of pro-hormones in the past, never hid that. In ten years of training, I have tried pro-hormones twice, If you want to go ahead and call me not natural, thats fine, I don't blame you. But like I said ANY natural organization in existance can and will let me compete, to them I am natural - so thats the definition of natural that matters to me! After all, There are some people out there that consider supplement use not natural, they think creatine is cheating.... So where do you draw the line? To me (and the natural competitions that I compete in), the use of illegal ANABOLIC STEROIDS, GH, INSULIN is NOT natural - And thats the only definition that will ever matter to me!
I got nothing against the concept of using juice and the people who use, some of my bestest friends are juicers.... But its not for me, I'm happy with where I've come without them and look forward to seeing how far I can go without them! Thats all!
Good bicep there mate..and natural is anything under a gram :D
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What a bunch of jealous fucktards in this thread.
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What a bunch of jealous fucktards in this thread.
no
just calling it as it is : liar about using
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Hes not natural neither roided. I think hes "clean" most of the time.
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just calling it as it is : liar about using
Most people,other than those who compete,never get ripped or lean enough to look good because they`re afraid they`ll lose size and look small.
Ach has great conditioning going on,hence the roid talk.
I`ve known the guy for a long time from the internet and I beleive that he`s a natty.......not that it`s all that fucking important anyway.
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So because I know how to get ripped for shows and the separation I can achieve, thats why you guys have come to the conclusion that I'm on the sauce? What kind of steroid handbook has stated that deep muscle density and chest striations are indicators of steroid use? Please guys LOL This isn't the first time i've heard this stuff. A bunch of my college buddies were juicers and I was bigger than one of them so he always accused me of taking massive amounts of test and he went around behind my back telling people he was CERTAIN I was on stuff, I fucking cracked up!
Common sense. Muscle fullness is the FIRST thing you achieve from steroids, even fucking I know that. Franco Columbu's physique was comparable in the arms and separation department to yours.
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Franco Columbu's physique was comparable in the arms and separation department to yours.
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Not exactly the same of course, but there's some resemblance.
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The funny thing is I know NOTHING about steroids, I dunno what one is supposed to take, how much, how often, etc etc. Will Grant saying something like "anything under a gram is natural" makes no sense to me because I have no idea what the norm is? lol
There's obviously nothing I can say to convince you guys otherwise, ya'll want to sit there believe and throw assumptions about what I'm using, pretending that you are experts on the subject... but the fact of the matter is I'm the one who wakes up in the morning and has to look myself in the mirror and I know who I am and what I do. Not much more that I can do, but you guys are welcome to come join me for a work out here in Florida and get to know me better, Cyp200la is already up for it!
Thanks for the props guys and Wes thanks for the kind words brother!
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His teeth certainly are.... ;D
j/k....i think he's natural....lot of hard work and seems too level headed for this board.
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Well his teeth are very white,and no nose hair showing in that Dumbo sized snozz.doesn't look like he's dirty.probably showers regularly.
.....I'd say he's clean
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I consider Myself Natural Now...
I only use 100% natural Methyl Testosterone casein shakes before bed..(3x the recommend daily dosage)
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:D
another natural bullshitter who looks like Coleman the beginner on smaller doses ...imagine him on steroidz ::)
YOU Are THE #1 HATER' ON GETBIG congrats!! One question for you. Who here on getbig IS natural in your eyes? You call everyone a liar, so who's telling the truth?
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I'm a full grown straight man with things to do during the day so I've never really thought about it.
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I'm a full grown straight man with things to do during the day so I've never really thought about it.
Bullshit! on having better things to do ;D
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It seems only the natural bb'ers here know what a natural bb'er looks like.
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YOU Are THE #1 HATER' ON GETBIG congrats!! One question for you. Who here on getbig IS natural in your eyes? You call everyone a liar, so who's telling the truth?
sounds like I touched a sensitive nerve with you fag :)
I cannot stand liars ... seems you are one of them
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sounds like I touched a sensitive nerve with you fag :)
I cannot stand liars ... seems you are one of them
No! You cannot stand guys that can build the muscle you can't! It doesn't matter if their a monster like Groink or ripped like Ach you claim liar! It's pretty sad to be honest, you should know by now there will always be someone able to do things your not. Just accept it and live your life. Don't bash this kid when you have no proof? Have a nice day Bro!
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He looks natural to me.
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No! You cannot stand guys that can build the muscle you can't! It doesn't matter if their a monster like Groink or ripped like Ach you claim liar! It's pretty sad to be honest, you should know by now there will always be someone able to do things your not. Just accept it and live your life. Don't bash this kid when you have no proof? Have a nice day Bro!
or maybe you are another kid who juices like little ach and compete in natural shows and claim that so that you feel you “achieved“ something
you are sad “bro“
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Good build man
a lot of hate and jealousy ...
And grown men behaving like bitches with emotions on this thread
the envy is great the usual LOSERS
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What a bunch of jealous fucktards in this thread.
BINGO.
He's natty. It's quite obvious. He's very lean in his pics...
To all you fat ass getbiggers: lift some weights for a few years, then do a serious cut. You'll look the same.
Props Big Ach.. you look great!
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BINGO.
He's natty. It's quite obvious. He's very lean in his pics...
To all you fat ass getbiggers: lift some weights for a few years, then do a serious cut. You'll look the same.
Props Big Ach.. you look great!
not another “nattie“ ahahaha
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as natural as vince goodrums sexual orientation.
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I think Ach is natural... but his boy Doug Miller isnt!
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Genetics=everything
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Can you imagine if this guy take steroids!? :o
(http://www.dougmillerpro.com/images/yvonnetaylor_photoshoot/IMG_0246.jpg)
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So a guy who got his Ph.D in a specific science, competes on stage with men in thongs, lived and knows many people in a country where steroids are legal, is obsessed with bodybuilding to the point of not only joining many forums but sticking up for men in thongs when ever needed, doesn't really know what types of steroids are? I call shenanigans. Its not possible.
Can his physique be obtained naturally? Absolutely. Some black dudes walk around looking like him just playing basketball and not touching a weight. Do I think this well educated guy who is obsessed with the sport never really decided to do the book work on hormones? No way. Not possible. A person can't be so book smart on one thing(career) and totally non book smart on his passion(bodybuilding).
I'm guessing he juiced many many times and just doesn't respond well to gear. But make no mistake his physique does have the natty look to it.(except neck region) Its just he is not natural Imop. I say this because he is playing stupid about what kinds of hormones are out there. Not possible. ::)
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not another “nattie“ ahahaha
Jealous Sementaste. When will you learn?
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Its the neck/trap region which exposes the guys who juice. Big Ach is basically pretty skinny(drawn out) in every area in the pictures when he is in comp/shape yet his neck trap region seemed to hold. These are the first areas that most people lose when natty. If this guy came off the sauce competely, his neck would be about 15 to 16 inches in complete dieted state. His body is just to small to hold the kind of thickness in that area. Not possible under 6% bodyfat with his structure.
GH15 approved
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Jealous Sementaste. When will you learn?
hows my sementaste ?
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Can you imagine if this guy take steroids!? :o
(http://www.dougmillerpro.com/images/yvonnetaylor_photoshoot/IMG_0246.jpg)
Great, natural physique right there...
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Big Ach seems like a really nice guy.
But he's claiming to be natural......
What do you think? Smells like bullshit to me.
man love it's a wonderful thing.
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Thanks for the props guys and Wes thanks for the kind words brother!
You know that my friend!!
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So a guy who got his Ph.D in a specific science, competes on stage with men in thongs, lived and knows many people in a country where steroids are legal, is obsessed with bodybuilding to the point of not only joining many forums but sticking up for men in thongs when ever needed, doesn't really know what types of steroids are? I call shenanigans. Its not possible.
Exactly, he shot himself in the foot with that comment, he took prohormones too but doesnt know what steroids are called lol, even though his local pharmacy sold them and he no doubt knew many who were using them in Egypt because of this, what a bullshitter.
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FYI-
Its the neck/trap region which exposes the guys who juice. Big Ach is basically pretty skinny(drawn out) in every area in the pictures when he is in comp/shape yet his neck trap region seemed to hold. These are the first areas that most people lose when natty. If this guy came off the sauce competely, his neck would be about 15 to 16 inches in complete dieted state. His body is just to small to hold the kind of thickness in that area. Not possible under 6% bodyfat with his structure.
GH15 approved
Just one of the dumber statements I`ve read as of late!!
Any of you guys train,or do you merely "Work out" ?
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OK, Even Big ACH admitted in this thread that He used a Product with was called Methyl 1-testosterone..Which was sold over the counter legally for about 8 months, before it was banned. It was not a Pro-hormone or prosteriod...It was a an actual steroid...Very powerful and toxic steroid. Many people i know used the stuff with Fantastic results. I tried it and couldn't handle the side effects.
I know many people here think just because M1T was legal that it couldn't possibly produce results.
Big ACH may be currently training natural, and considered natural by many natural bodybuilding organizations.
However, he can't claim lifetime natural status...
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Who cares,it was only 8 months,and he admitted it.
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Abominal snowman - my neck is about 16-17 inches IN THE OFF-SEASON at 235 lbs!!!! I can only imagine how much smaller it gets when I diet down.... so your argument is false.
You guys are calling me out on saying I really dunno which steroids to use and how much and saying I'm playing stupid - but the fact of the matter is thats really the case. I've read basic shit on it, but I really would not know what to do with it, how much to take or anything like that, I've never truly researched steroids because I never used them... GH15's post look like a foreign language to me!
Yeah my local pharmacy sold them, yeah some of my bestest friends took them, but I never asked what they were taking, how much of it etc, all I knew is they took test and growth hormone - thats literally all I knew!
You are all reading waaaay too much between the lines. Ask me up front what my diet is? what my training is like? What pro-hormones I took many years ago? how often I sleep? what supplements I take? how many times I shit? And I'll answer you guys honestly and clearly. I got nothing to hide lol
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Abominal snowman - my neck is about 16-17 inches IN THE OFF-SEASON at 235 lbs!!!! I can only imagine how much smaller it gets when I diet down.... so your argument is false.
You guys are calling me out on saying I really dunno which steroids to use and how much and saying I'm playing stupid - but the fact of the matter is thats really the case. I've read basic shit on it, but I really would not know what to do with it, how much to take or anything like that, I've never truly researched steroids because I never used them... GH15's post look like a foreign language to me!
Yeah my local pharmacy sold them, yeah some of my bestest friends took them, but I never asked what they were taking, how much of it etc, all I knew is they took test and growth hormone - thats literally all I knew!
You are all reading waaaay too much between the lines. Ask me up front what my diet is? what my training is like? What pro-hormones I took many years ago? how often I sleep? what supplements I take? how many times I shit? And I'll answer you guys honestly and clearly. I got nothing to hide lol
Do you speak Arabic?
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Do you speak Arabic?
Yes fluently - and a little bit of spanish too ;)
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Yes fluently - and a little bit of spanish too ;)
So which part of the Arabian peninsula do you from? or are you Egyptian?
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He is going to cut off your supply .
Haha, nah, he wouldn't refuse my money ;).
So, are you admitting the use of gear? ???
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So which part of the Arabian peninsula do you from? or are you Egyptian?
I am Egyptian - was born in Giza!
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I am Egyptian - was born in Giza!
When did you emigrate to the US?
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When did you emigrate to the US?
Complicated question lol
Ok, I was born in Egypt in 1982
In 1994 I moved to London, England and attended school there
In 1996 I moved to the US (washington DC area) and attended 8th grade and all of high school and undergrad
In 2005 after I graduated I moved back to Egypt and started working
At the end of 2008 I moved back to the US and did my masters, and now PhD 8)
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Heres the only thing I dont get....
You guys act like if he is using, that he should be all proud and talk about it.
Its none of anyones business what he does, besides that, his identity is clearly visible, and if it came out it would affect his comps. So why t he fuck should he tell anyone? He shouldnt.
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6' 180 lbs competition weight, WHY is this even in question ???
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Complicated question lol
Ok, I was born in Egypt in 1982
In 1994 I moved to London, England and attended school there
In 1996 I moved to the US (washington DC area) and attended 8th grade and all of high school and undergrad
In 2005 after I graduated I moved back to Egypt and started working
At the end of 2008 I moved back to the US and did my masters, and now PhD 8)
Do you have an American accent or a British one or a mixture or an Arabic one?
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Do you have an American accent or a British one or a mixture or an Arabic one?
American! Very thick American!
Its funny cause my dad has a british accent! lol
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BIG ACH is on steroids in his avatar picture. In some of the other pics he may have been clean for the time being, but in that pic he is on IMO.
He keeps talking about "pro-hormones" and how he never took steroids. The problem is that the term "pro-hormone" and the even sillier "pro-steroid" were terms invented for legal and promo reasons.
You don't need to know anything about steroids to take them. 99% of people who use steroids know jack and shit about them and at least half of them don't even know how much they take exactly or what the correct names of the products are even. Case in point: BIG ACH still doesn't know the "supplements" he used were steroids. :D And of course there's likely much more in the picture.
About as natural as ole Tim Westcocks. :D
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BIG ACH is on steroids in his avatar picture. In some of the other pics he may have been clean for the time being, but in that pic he is on IMO.
He keeps talking about "pro-hormones" and how he never took steroids. The problem is that the term "pro-hormone" and the even sillier "pro-steroid" were terms invented for legal and promo reasons.
You don't need to know anything about steroids to take them. 99% of people who use steroids know jack and shit about them and at least half of them don't even know how much they take exactly or what the correct names of the products are even. Case in point: BIG ACH still doesn't know the "supplements" he used were steroids. :D And of course there's likely much more in the picture.
About as natural as ole Tim Westcocks. :D
Well its funny.. because SPECIFICALLY in my avatar this picture below, I had not even started taking Pro-hormones or M1T, was a few months after that contest that I tried them..... so..... you FAIL ;D
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)
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Here are some other pictures from that same contest in which my Avatar was taken - I won my class on that day (plus the novice class) - this was my second contest and my best showing!
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/legsopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/reardoublebisopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechestopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/frontdoublebisopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/siderelaxedopen.jpg)
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Here are some other pictures from that same contest in which my Avatar was taken - I won my class on that day (plus the novice class) - this was my second contest and my best showing!
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/legsopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/reardoublebisopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechestopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/frontdoublebisopen.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/siderelaxedopen.jpg)
Did you study Engineering because you were interested in it or just for the sake of employment?
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hows my sementaste ?
Youre the biggest joke on here. You've admitted juicing up, and never looked as good as the nattys on here.. like Big Ach. You're just jealous dicklicker!
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Did you study Engineering because you were interested in it or just for the sake of employment?
Gotta be both anyone I've ever talk to about it that's as succesful as him ain't doing it out lack of vision.
Anyhow dude has been in the west since he was 12 hardly an arab. But whatever.
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Did you study Engineering because you were interested in it or just for the sake of employment?
Because I was interested in it - wasn't worried much about employment because I currently work for a family business which my father started, a manufacturing company - so I was introduced to Engineering from a very young age! and I pretty much had a job lined up from the second I was born! Sounds pretty assholish but I'm not gonna kid myself!
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Well its funny.. because SPECIFICALLY in my avatar this picture below, I had not even started taking Pro-hormones or M1T, was a few months after that contest that I tried them..... so..... you FAIL ;D
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)
That could be a juicer (who doesn't respond very well to roids) or it also could be a natural who shows dedication and determination with his diet and training.
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Gotta be both anyone I've ever talk to about it that's as succesful as him ain't doing it out lack of vision.
I don't know. My current MSc I am doing really has little to do with my interests. I am hoping it will garner me a good job and that's why I am doing it. Mind you, I don't hate it but it's nothing I get excited about. I think a lot of people who study things as a career move feel the same.
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I don't know. My current MSc I am doing really has little to do with my interests. I am hoping it will garner me a good job and that's why I am doing it. Mind you, I don't hate it but it's nothing I get excited about. I think a lot of people who study things as a career move feel the same.
Did you see my answer above?
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and I pretty much had a job lined up from the second I was born! Sounds pretty assholish but I'm not gonna kid myself!
Lol that would explain your confidence despite being so ugly, just remember don't let it go to your head, if you grew up in the states you'd just be the ugly kid with low self esteem.
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I don't know. My current MSc I am doing really has little to do with my interests. I am hoping it will garner me a good job and that's why I am doing it. Mind you, I don't hate it but it's nothing I get excited about. I think a lot of people who study things as a career move feel the same.
Then you probally won't get a job your interest in something usually shines through.
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Then you probally won't get a job your interest in something usually shines through.
I don't need a job I am interested in, just one I am good at and can tolerate that let's me have a comfortable existence.
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Lol that would explain your confidence despite being so ugly, just remember don't let it go to your head, if you grew up in the states you'd just be the ugly kid with low self esteem.
I had very low self esteem when I was a kid - before I started traiing, I was socially awkward got bullied a lot and was a cry baby... in high school my life changed like 180 degrees, i became an athlete, became more confident, and things sorta got easier from a social stand point! As for my work in the family business, I fucking love it, its my life outside of bodybuilding, I do my best not to let it get to my head! ;)
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I don't need a job I am interested in, just one I am good at and can tolerate that let's me have a comfortable existence.
Meh I suppose I got on the fence at the moment do I finish a diploma in Engineerng, or go all the way with the degree. I got scared away from ENG with all the obsessive and overly competitive fucks at the school, but being a at a college being more interested in shit than all your peers sucks dick as well. (it's one or the other, as I suck at writing :D)
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Meh I suppose I got on the fence at the moment do I finish a diploma in Engineerng, or go all the way with the degree. I got scared away from ENG with all the obsessive and overly competitive fucks at the school, but being a at a college being more interested in shit than all your peers sucks dick as well. (it's one or the other, as I suck at writing :D)
Do something practical, as long as you don't hate it, it will be a better choice than something you are interested in but is useless to the world at large.
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Meh I suppose I got on the fence at the moment do I finish a diploma in Engineerng, or go all the way with the degree. I got scared away from ENG with all the obsessive and overly competitive fucks at the school, but being a at a college being more interested in shit than all your peers sucks dick as well. (it's one or the other, as I suck at writing :D)
I haaaaaaaaaaated studying Engineering in undergrad and masters, kinda hate it too in my PhD lol... but actually using it and applying it in the real world was pretty interesting, although my own personal work has diverged more into the business side recently.
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Do something practical, as long as you don't hate it, it will be a better choice than something you are interested in but is useless to the world at large.
Lol well it's either be a technolgist, economics, engineer, or a physics teacher, those are pretty much the extent of my interest in terms of work. I've also worked more than a few hours of the years so I think I got a realistic expectations of what I want.
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I haaaaaaaaaaated studying Engineering in undergrad and masters, kinda hate it too in my PhD lol... but actually using it and applying it in the real world was pretty interesting, although my own personal work has diverged more into the business side recently.
Well I'm doing industrial tech, or industrial eng so I'm going in that direction myself, I'd guess I'd better start studying my grammar though :D.
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Well I'm doing industrial tech, or industrial eng so I'm going in that direction myself, I'd guess I'd better start studying my grammar though :D.
Stick it out and go for the full degree, i was in your shoes back in undergrad, half way through thought about quitting engineering - so glad I didn't!
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Stick it out and go for the full degree, i was in your shoes back in undergrad, half way through thought about quitting engineering - so glad I didn't!
Thanks that's good advice, well my original plan was college than Uni, as I thought it was cheaper to do one step at a time, but I crunched the numbers and realized it was cheaper to go back to uni, shitty part is the uni I'm at won't reconize my college shit, atleast compared to other uni's (I hate gov funded politics with a fucking passion)
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Ach is a decent guy but he is a liar about not using etc
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Thanks that's good advice, well my original plan was college than Uni, as I thought it was cheaper to do one step at a time, but I crunched the numbers and realized it was cheaper to go back to uni, shitty part is the uni I'm at won't reconize my college shit, atleast compared to other uni's (I hate gov funded politics with a fucking passion)
Oh that really sucks man - so now you have to take the same shit over?? not cool!
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11 12 Big Ach pages. Ah Ah Ah.
/damnit!
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Ach is a decent guy but he is a liar about not using etc
LOL sev, dude why are you soooo convinced with all your heart that I'm using man? What gives it A-HA factor and makes you so sure?
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11 12 Big Ach pages. Ah Ah Ah.
/damnit!
LOLLL - I'm actually sitting in a lecture and I just busted out laughing!
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LOL sev, dude why are you soooo convinced with all your heart that I'm using man? What gives it A-HA factor and makes you so sure?
Cause you look better/are bigger than he was when using. To him that means your using.
He uses his own genetics as the yardstick to measure everyone else.
If youre bigger/better that he was, youre on.
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Oh that really sucks man - so now you have to take the same shit over?? not cool!
Yeah pretty much, I don't mind it's giving me time to rethink shit about life, and shit, this last six months have been alot of change for my world outlook(way less conservative etc.) My posting style I think reflects part of this (alot of inner conflict) fun/work/sex etc.
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Cause you look better/are bigger than he was when using. To him that means your using.
He uses his own genetics as the yardstick to measure everyone else.
If youre bigger/better that he was, youre on.
There was this guy that I played football with back in high school, dude was HUUUUUUUUUGE, just musclar and lean, and the guy never ever touched a weight in his life, drove me nuts lolll but he ate a lot I remember, whenever we went out he'd be eating everyone's food LOL
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11 12 Big Ach pages. Ah Ah Ah.
/damnit!
No need to finish first.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/butterca/gonzo.jpg)
:D :D :D
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Ach is a good guy but this is hardly questioning his integrity, he already admitted to taking pro hormones.
So no he is not natural, he is clean if he hasn't used for a certain period of time.
Why the fuck you would make the choice to take pro hormones but wouldn't take steroids i don't know.
Ach is obviously full of shit when it comes down to use, apart from that he handles himself well.
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Big Ach is an all around big dude.
His nose is not the only thing with a hook.
"1"
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Ach is a good guy but this is hardly questioning his integrity, he already admitted to taking pro hormones.
So no he is not natural, he is clean if he hasn't used for a certain period of time.
Why the fuck you would make the choice to take pro hormones but wouldn't take steroids i don't know.
Ach is obviously full of shit when it comes down to use, apart from that he handles himself well.
How about because pro-hormones were legal? and Because all the natural organizations allowed them?
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Big Ach's has nothing on this guy's nose. :D :D
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/TheBadlands/300px-Gonzo21.jpg)
:o :o
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Big Ach's has nothing on this guy's nose. :D :D
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/TheBadlands/300px-Gonzo21.jpg)
:o :o
Back in school a bunch of people called me "Gonzo" becasue my big nose lolll :D
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Cause you look better/are bigger than he was when using. To him that means your using.
He uses his own genetics as the yardstick to measure everyone else.
If youre bigger/better that he was, youre on.
Good point. Genetics=everything
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I believe Ach in all he says.
So many jealous people in this thread who hate when they see progress.
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I believe Ach in all he says.
So many jealous people in this thread who hate when they see progress.
Your genetics=much, much better than BIG ACH's.
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Only
the nose time will tell...
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How about because pro-hormones were legal? and Because all the natural organizations allowed them?
So you have zero moral objection to drugs.
Calling yourself a natural is a stretch. Clean is the best you can label yourself as.
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So you have zero moral objection to drugs.
Calling yourself a natural is a stretch. Clean is the best you can label yourself as.
Yeah its not about morality man...
I think steroids should be legal but never used them, hell I think weed should be legal and I've never smoked it! lol
Like I said man, i know tons of guys that use - some of my closest friends, and I've got nothing against it - just not for me! Thats all
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Yeah its not about morality man...
I think steroids should be legal but never used them, hell I think weed should be legal and I've never smoked it! lol
Like I said man, i know tons of guys that use - some of my closest friends, and I've got nothing against it - just not for me! Thats all
Whatever Ach :) I don't understand your perspective, if you think they should be legal and have pretty much used but just under a different chemical name. Then why would they not be for you? I couldn't really give a shit but the whole not using anymore line is confusing as fuck, you have career long juicers who seem to think they are natty if they have been clean for six months lol.
You look good in any event but "natural bodybuildng is just shades of grey. Natural is someone who doesn't use drugs full stop. Call it classic bodybuilding, low dose body sculpting or whatever the fuck my org allows training.
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Whatever Ach :) I don't understand your perspective, if you think they should be legal and have pretty much used but just under a different chemical name. Then why would they not be for you? I couldn't really give a shit but the whole not using anymore line is confusing as fuck, you have career long juicers who seem to think they are natty if they have been clean for six months lol.
You look good in any event but "natural bodybuildng is just shades of grey. Natural is someone who doesn't use drugs full stop. Call it classic bodybuilding, low dose body sculpting or whatever the fuck my org allows training.
First of all Jamie thanks for the compliment about looking good, i appreciate it.
Alright.... Lets look at it this way... when I started competing I had never used pro-hormones... after my second season competing, I deicided to try it, and I checked with the head of OCB if it would be OK, and was given the green light.... It was LEGAL and you could buy it over the counter, and all was well. I tried it, and then stopped using it BEFORE it was even banned, I decided I didn't want to use it anymore before it was ever made illegal...
A few years later, I moved overseas to Egypt, where EVERYTHING WAS LEGAL and EASILY available and SUPER cheap, I'm talking waaay cheaper than whey protein is! Deca is put up on display at the pharmacy window for everyone to see! But still, I didn't use it then, because I decided it was not for me, why is that so hard to understand?
If pro-hormones became legal again tomorrow, I probably would not use them again. Does that make sense?
YES.... there are many shades of grey when it comes to natural bodybuilding, and I'm the first to admit that I fall in that category of that grey area because of my use of pro-hormones in the past, I guess you can say I fell through the cracks?
Don't forget either that many different organizations have different rules for the duration of being drug free. I believe the OCB is 7 years, others are lifetime requirements, others are 5 years, the Team Universe is 1 year!
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Youre the biggest joke on here. You've admitted juicing up, and never looked as good as the nattys on here.. like Big Ach. You're just jealous dicklicker!
agree
some people are meant to have muscles because they are genitically gifted in that area
sevasste should stick to tennis
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agree
some people are meant to have muscles because they are genitically gifted in that area
sevasste should stick to tennis
haha
I looked better and were stronger and did not lie about usage pogosticks
go drink a redbull and filozofize sum more ::)
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Hahahhaha whatever you say man
the fact that you think I have taken gear proves my superiority
sevaste I look 5 times better than you and I'm natural no contest you not in my leaague
sorry muscle buiding genetics are in my family I poked better than you looked at your peak after 6 months of training. No contest your jealousy proves my point
when I look at your physique I would never ever think you took anything
yet 5 years on your still accusing me .....
I'm natural you juiced I'm I'm better bigger better lines muscle shape no contest
if I looked like you did I'd be worried you looked small
stop hating on big ach he's also out of your league
peace enjoy the rest of the thread tennis guy
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Thanks bro! Engineering is a bitch and a half - glad to have gotten through that stuff, and still fighting in the PhD lol I've learned more at work though than I did in school - guess it just gives you a base and a way of thinking like they say!
ive been an engineer for 20 years now. good to see another on here.
prohormones IMO dont count as they were over the counter products that everyone could get hold of legally.
anything legally obtainable is fair game IMO. with the exception of steroids, GH etc...but not insulin for diabetics.
prohormones arent even in the same stratosphere as AS. Good luck on the PhD. you must be glutten for punishment.
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haha
I looked better and were stronger and did not lie about usage pogosticks
go drink a redbull and filozofize sum more ::)
lol. Delusional. WHEN did YOU EVER look better than Meso? OR, for that matter, when were you stronger? WHen you squatted 405 pounds worth of fake plates?
Please sev, stick to playing with tennis balls.
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lol. Delusional. WHEN did YOU EVER look better than Meso? OR, for that matter, when were you stronger? WHen you squatted 405 pounds worth of fake plates?
Please sev, stick to playing with tennis balls.
leave him to ramble and talk doo doo
I have nothing against him personally but he is such a jealous individual
when I see people post pics and clips on here it's always an inspiration
because I know they have the same love of lifting like I do and their trying to build a better body
sev is a hater anyone that he thinks looks better than him must be a juicer....
He is a loser in that respect he has jealous emotions like a female
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leave him to ramble and talk doo doo
I have nothing against him personally but he is such a jealous individual
when I see people post pics and clips on here it's always an inspiration
because I know they have the same love of lifting like I do and their trying to build a better body
sev is a hater anyone that he thinks looks better than him must be a juicer....
He is a loser in that respect he has jealous emotions like a female
haha ... ok mr 2 jamaican meals a day and oreos lol
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haha ... ok mr 2 jamaican meals a day and oreos lol
Crafty. ::)
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Crafty. ::)
are there “issues“ from the past coltrane ?
seems you still havent recovered from being utterly owned and outed as a liar
you keep cuming back for more
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are there “issues“ from the past coltrane ?
seems you still havent recovered from being utterly owned and outed as a liar
you keep cuming back for more
Can you be anymore vague? A liar in regards to what? Ive been natty all my life as a bodybuilder, 18 years.
You haven't.
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a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)
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Great build man very good physique
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damn 13 pages lmao ..... hes natural
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leave him to ramble and talk doo doo
I have nothing against him personally but he is such a jealous individual
when I see people post pics and clips on here it's always an inspiration
because I know they have the same love of lifting like I do and their trying to build a better body
sev is a hater anyone that he thinks looks better than him must be a juicer....
He is a loser in that respect he has jealous emotions like a female
You don't get it, do you? It's not inspiring if it's not possible to achieve. I (and many others) will never have your build, sure it's inspiring for you, you look at a weight and grow. ::)
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a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)
On peut atteindre cela que avec une genetique superieure que la plupart de nous n'a pas.
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You don't get it, do you? It's not inspiring if it's not possible to achieve. I (and many others) will never have your build, sure it's inspiring for you, you look at a weight and grow. ::)
Where are the pics of Mesomorph?
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Where are the pics of Mesomorph?
All over the place...I don't save pics, so you'll have to ask.
Der ist sowieso Schwarzer, also...
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haha
coltrane .. you are as natural as a cock in a man's rectum
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a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)
I have my doubts.
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This guy actually claimed natural?
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_MeasuringArms2.jpg)
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This guy actually claimed natural?
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_MeasuringArms2.jpg)
He's black. Very possible.
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He's black. Very possible.
lol
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lol
ask deicide to post a pic ..you will laugh even harder
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ask deicide to post a pic ..you will laugh even harder
Huh? I have some of the worst genetics on the board. There would be no point.
The question here is if someone with superior genetics can achieve a build like mesomorph's.
It's certainly possible.
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Huh? I have some of the worst genetics on the board. There would be no point.
The question here is if someone with superior genetics can achieve a build like mesomorph's.
It's certainly possible.
you must be completely clueless
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Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters
im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...
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a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)
I think you are using AAS or one or more of the over the counter "pro steroids" but if you are not then you have very very good genetics
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Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters
im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...
Genetics=everything
I believe you are natural. The point I am making is just that it doesn't motivate me because I am never going to look like that. Training is only fun if you make progress.
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I think you are using AAS or one or more of the over the counter "pro steroids" but if you are not then you have very very good genetics
THG approved
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Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters
im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...
::)
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a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)
Thats not a good natty physique....
Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!! Seriously... hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man! You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL
How long have you been training? What about competition bro?
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Thats not a good natty physique....
Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!! Seriously... hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man! You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL
How long have you been training? What about competition bro? Damn you have good genetics!
Fixed
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Thats not a good natty physique....
Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!! Seriously... hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man! You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL
How long have you been training? What about competition bro?
And that's my favourite part. A lying hypocrite giving another lying hypocrite propz to make his own stuff more credible. Widely spread on the boards. ;D
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And that's my favourite part. A lying hypocrite giving another lying hypocrite propz to make his own stuff more credible. Widely spread on the boards. ;D
Ok chief! Whatever you say!
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decide.... i dont agree... everyone ive seen your picss and i dont think you have bad genetics at all.
when i started training i had 13 inch arms when i first stepped into the gym what I'm trying to stress is sometimes you have to woork effing hard to realise your genetic potential.
I used to go to the gym at 7pm and stay there till closing time 10 pm just working arms yrs later ive put over 6+ inches on my arm no diet no 6 meals a day no drugs nothing just hard and i do mean hard training. Can you say honestly that your traning hardI do all the excecises people hate to do . do you do heavy deadlifts weighted chins , weighted dips,squats and front squats
barbell rows heavy dumbell presses??? or do you just go into the gym like i see a lot of guys doing hit the pulldown machine for back cable rows , or for shoulders hit the shoulder press machine???
for me working out heavy and hard is a part of my life balance ... my primary goal isnt to get big , its to get stronger and enjoy the feeling of lifting weight this is something i will do till im dead , lot of guys only work out for summer. To paraphrase genetics for hard training is not just physical its mental as well.
i dont have to train half as hard as i do BUt i do because i love it
coleman never had to train half as hard as he did but he had the best genetics and he trained the hardest.
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decide.... i dont agree... everyone ive seen your picss and i dont think you have bad genetics at all.
when i started training i had 13 inch arms when i first stepped into the gym what I'm trying to stress is sometimes you have to woork effing hard to realise your genetic potential.
I used to go to the gym at 7pm and stay there till closing time 10 pm just working arms yrs later ive put over 6+ inches on my arm no diet no 6 meals a day no drugs nothing just hard and i do mean hard training. Can you say honestly that your traning hardI do all the excecises people hate to do . do you do heavy deadlifts weighted chins , weighted dips,squats and front squats
barbell rows heavy dumbell presses??? or do you just go into the gym like i see a lot of guys doing hit the pulldown machine for back cable rows , or for shoulders hit the shoulder press machine???
for me working out heavy and hard is a part of my life balance ... my primary goal isnt to get big , its to get stronger and enjoy the feeling of lifting weight this is something i will do till im dead , lot of guys only work out for summer. To paraphrase genetics for hard training is not just physical its mental as well.
i dont have to train half as hard as i do BUt i do because i love it
coleman never had to train half as hard as he did but he had the best genetics and he trained the hardest.
I have periodically trained my ass off. This year in fact for about half a year until I had a serious injury.
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it shouldnt be periodically it should be consistently so all the time...
I train hard all the time, i take maybe 3 weeks off a year max
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the greatest natural of all times!!!
bench
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the greatest natural of all times!!!
bench
http://www.ronniecoleman.net/biographyhigh.html
And, yes, say Dr. Levine and other experts, a body like Mr. Coleman's is possible without benefit of anabolic steroids. Mr. Coleman says he has never resorted to steroids, and he has passed every drug test he's ever taken, according to a spokesman for the International Federation of Bodybuilding.
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it shouldnt be periodically it should be consistently so all the time...
I train hard all the time, i take maybe 3 weeks off a year max
No offence but never taking breaks...I usually take a week off every 2 months. I feel stronger and better after that time. I am a big believer in recuperation. The few times I have done marathons of 6 times a week I wrecked my body. Everyone is different. I bet you would make even better gains if you rested more.
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http://www.ronniecoleman.net/biographyhigh.html
SUCCESS!!!
bench
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It's kinda like those pics of Ronnie Coleman that had a banner in the background saying "Ronnie Coleman, a true drug-free athlete." or something like that.
Or when Hulk Hogan and Jesse Ventura and the Ultimate Warrior were doing anti-steroid commercials in the 80's.
If you're gonna do steroids, have the balls to stand up for yourself and admit it. Instead of hiding it like it's some terrible thing.
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No offence but never taking breaks...I usually take a week off every 2 months. I feel stronger and better after that time. I am a big believer in recuperation. The few times I have done marathons of 6 times a week I wrecked my body. Everyone is different. I bet you would make even better gains if you rested more.
my body tells when I need a break ... And a few weeks works for me.
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Big Ach's has nothing on this guy's nose. :D :D
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/TheBadlands/300px-Gonzo21.jpg)
:o :o
Damn, look at these traps, Gonzo must be on a shitload of gear!!!
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Just one of the dumber statements I`ve read as of late!!
Any of you guys train,or do you merely "Work out" ?
Stick to dieting skinny. When it comes to training, you have looked the exact same year after year after year. Basically you're the guy who works out but starves himself and calls it a diet because thats all you think about. ;)
Tim Wilcocks the bloated years ;)
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
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offseason(winter)
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Looking good Dragon.
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I believe he is natural. Any package addressed to an Achmed Durka Durka Camelfucker is getting opened at customs.
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I believe he is natural. Any package addressed to an Achmed Durka Durka Camelfucker is getting opened at customs.
bwhahaahahaahahahaaha, BEST explanation so far!!!!!
Holy shit you must be right on the money with that!!!
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offseason(winter)
시발 넘
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Dragon you look awesome, big and ripped on and off-season! LOL Great job man!
Taco Bell, that was fucking funny! LOL you know I can't be getting any of that shit hahahah
Deicide... we need to have a talk, I want to know more about you and your history in this sport! In the past I used to take 1 week breaks every 6-7 weeks, but now I just play it by ear, I go as long as I can until I feel that my body needs some time off and I'll go ahead and rest, but usually I just keep training and training as much as I can! Just don't find a need for scheduled time off anymore!!
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:D :D
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offseason(winter)
fucking awesome man... lean and hard with attacking hoodlums size.
watch out. the facelesses are right around the corner. they will bash you but the truth is they would like to plunge a meat rod down your rectum and beyond. it is what it is.
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Alex - Post up that GETBIG madness video - that was amazing, but I can't find it!!!
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Alex - Post up that GETBIG madness video - that was amazing, but I can't find it!!!
b-ach (lol sounds like beeitch if you read it fast..)
you're awesome man, a true deliverer with a 365d/y shape & historical hooks that should make anyone who can trace their descendants to 200-600AD proud.
... looking for it. ;D..
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b-ach (lol sounds like beeitch if you read it fast..)
you're awesome man, a true deliverer with a 365d/y shape & historical hooks that should make anyone who can trace their descendants to 200-600AD proud.
... looking for it. ;D..
Dude you're an inspiration - mad props to all of your accomplishments - and you're actually "real" not a faceless screen name, like many on here!!!
Keep doing what you're doing brotha, and thank you again for all the kind words man!!! Means a lot coming from you!
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Dude you're an inspiration - mad props to all of your accomplishments - and you're actually "real" not a faceless screen name, like many on here!!!
Keep doing what you're doing brotha, and thank you again for all the kind words man!!! Means a lot coming from you!
A 16+ pages thread is nothing to snub at my friend. You've arrived and made it to the level where at least 8-12 getbiggers spend significant amount of time trying to come with shit to blow your gasket (lack of not being able to blow you period.). ;D this means your AT LEAST 99.99 percentile of global physiques. Serious. If not convinced, ask them to sideshot a pic (they won't) !
Nothing more, nothing less. feel the hatred dripping down your back, it's a good feeling ;D
ShemaghSpeed. They won't even know what's coming at them.
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A 16+ pages thread is nothing to snub at my friend. You've arrived and made it to the level where at least 8-12 getbiggers spend significant amount of time trying to come with shit to blow your gasket (lack of not being able to blow you period.). ;D this means your AT LEAST 99.99 percentile of global physiques. Serious. If not convinced, ask them to sideshot a pic (they won't) !
Nothing more, nothing less. feel the hatred dripping down your back, it's a good feeling ;D
ShemaghSpeed. They won't even know what's coming at them.
Alex check your PM ;D
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ShemaghSpeed.
;D
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LOL ;D
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alex and big ach you are both good guys but this mutual ass licking is too much ;D
just kidding guys,.. have a nice time all of you..
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alex and big ach you are both good guys but this mutual ass licking is too much ;D
just kidding guys,.. have a nice time all of you..
your dry asshole feeling left out? lolll ;D
ok yeah I know...
(http://www.alliedsteelfab.com/catalog/product_images/I+Crossed+The+Line5.jpg)
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your dry asshole feeling left out? lolll ;D
ok yeah I know...
(http://www.alliedsteelfab.com/catalog/product_images/I+Crossed+The+Line5.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
pretty big for being Chinese, man.
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
You look good bro. But you are no Tim Wilcocks
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You look good bro. But you are no Tim Wilcocks
Want to get put in TO, huh?
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
how much do you weight? in the summer pic and in the offseason
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Dragon you look awesome, big and ripped on and off-season! LOL Great job man!
Taco Bell, that was fucking funny! LOL you know I can't be getting any of that shit hahahah
Deicide... we need to have a talk, I want to know more about you and your history in this sport! In the past I used to take 1 week breaks every 6-7 weeks, but now I just play it by ear, I go as long as I can until I feel that my body needs some time off and I'll go ahead and rest, but usually I just keep training and training as much as I can! Just don't find a need for scheduled time off anymore!!
Ok, let's talk but you have to speak to me in Egyptian Arabic so I don't understand anything.
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
we went though this shit a few years ago liar
remember ?
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we went though this shit a few years ago liar
remember ?
all chinease gh :D
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Stick to dieting skinny. When it comes to training, you have looked the exact same year after year after year. Basically you're the guy who works out but starves himself and calls it a diet because thats all you think about. ;)
Tim Wilcocks the bloated years ;)
I`m 55 years old ,how much muscle do you expect me to gain at this point? :-\
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can't believe this thread has grown to 15 pages so quickly. Really, what does it matter? Everyone has made up their mind one way or another and nothing is going to change that. It's not like Arch is Layne or Skip and marketing himself and profiting at claiming natural. Big Arch is a good guy and whether he is lying or not about using illegal substances and admitting it on a public board makes no difference to me as I think what someone does to their own body is their own business and government should butt out. When I look at him I see a guy with a great physique and whether it's natural or not isn't the slightest issue to me.
Props to Arch for inspiring such a response. You have quite a fan base so interested in your life.
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Stick to dieting skinny. When it comes to training, you have looked the exact same year after year after year. Basically you're the guy who works out but starves himself and calls it a diet because thats all you think about. ;)
Tim Wilcocks the bloated years ;)
You are one weird and creepy dude. You've been posting that vid all over this board like a mad man. What the fuck is wrong with you and your obsession with Wes? I often wonder what happened in a person's life that makes them turn out like someone like you.
Have you posted a pic and shown us how magnificent your physique is?
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You are one weird and creepy dude. You've been posting that vid all over this board like a mad man. What the fuck is wrong with you and your obsession with Wes? I often wonder what happened in a person's life that makes them turn out like someone like you.
Have you posted a pic and shown us how magnificent your physique is?
CHrist dude what's been setting you off did somenone piss in your cheerios or some shit, your suppose to be all neutral.
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CHrist dude what's been setting you off did somenone piss in your cheerios or some shit, your suppose to be all neutral.
What makes you think I'm neutral? Wes is a good guy, this snowman character is a weird and creepy dude posting the same vid all over this board. I want him to know that I think he's a disturbed and troubled person and needs help. He's probably a piece of shit as well.
You have a problem with that?
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(http://i.imgur.com/oTbsV.jpg)
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Thats not a good natty physique....
Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!! Seriously... hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man! You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL
How long have you been training? What about competition bro?
Appreciate the comments bud! Training for 18 years now. Always been natural. Contemplated many times, but i don't know if that's for me. Plus I live in a smaller town where everyone would be pointing a finger.
I've thought about competiing in a natural show, but I don't know if that's really me. I just love to train.
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
Awesome build.
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Short Italian guy at my old day job was more muscular than I am an didn't work out at all. He wasn't quite as lean mind you. I've known a few people who are just naturally muscular. Some people just have great genetics for building muscle.
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Short Italian guy at my old day job was more muscular than I am an didn't work out at all. He wasn't quite as lean mind you. I've known a few people who are just naturally muscular. Some people just have great genetics for building muscle.
Yep...it's like some of the country boys where I grew up who could just walk into the gym having never lifted and smoke the guys who had been there for years...
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Bunch a juice monkeys >:(
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Yep...it's like some of the country boys where I grew up who could just walk into the gym having never lifted and smoke the guys who had been there for years...
NC rednecks are some scary mofos and strong, they been chopping trees and lifting cinderblocks around the clock since 3 years old.
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NC rednecks are some scary mofos and strong, they been chopping trees and lifting cinderblocks around the clock since 3 years old.
Very true....thankfully as they've aged, they are just fat slobs now......while I'm getting better every year.....whooooooo !!!!!!!!!! ;D
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NC rednecks are some scary mofos and strong, they been chopping trees and lifting cinderblocks around the clock since 3 years old.
We have a proportionally large Filipino population here, and many of them are naturally muscular without ever having touched a weight. Back in high school they were also the top athletes in the school with regards to track and field events and certain sports.
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good physique on the chinese guy.
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We have a proportionally large Filipino population here, and many of them are naturally muscular without ever having touched a weight. Back in high school they were also the top athletes in the school with regards to track and field events and certain sports.
You cant beat genetics, Samoan's are another group with superior genetics for size and strength.
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When you guys say genetics is everything.... do you all mean, that the person is naturally and already big before he touches weights, so when he lifts just gets all that much bigger?
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Do you mean that the person regardless if he's small or big before he lifts he just responds well to training and eating?
Cause, when I look at myself before lifting, I was NO WHERE NEAR big.... I weighed like a max of 150 lbs soaking wet, with no muscle at all... when I was younger my parents would say I looked like a starving ethiopian refugee! lol And then after years of lifting I got my weight all the way up to 265 lbs... granted I looked more like a football player than a bodybuilder, but still.... sure beat being a skinny ass buck fifty!
I think I have pretty good genetics not great, but good... don't think they're bad in any way, but I would never think that I'm genetically gifted for the sport. But, I mean eating a ton, 3000-4000 calories for so long and training pretty hard 2-3 hours everyday has to do something to you, right?
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I'm the same Ach. Was tiny when starting out. I can remember being in 10th grade trying to shoulder press the bar with 2.5 pound plates on each side, and not being able to balance it well.
I think that its really its a marathon and not a race (bodybuilding that is). If youre consistent with dieting and training, and you stay with it for years, you'll have a good, if not really good build.
Genetics will help with certain areas, i.e., arms or legs. Genetically i have the propensity for growth on my arms. My legs and calves not so much. SO, i train them like mad and they've grown.
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AND, your point about eating high cal for years (basically permabulking) will result in muscle growth. THEN you cut, and you've got that nice musculature.
That's what the natty naysayers don't get. They go in for a few months, dont get anywhere and think YOU MUST be on something cause THEY haven't gotten anywhere due to the short time span of training.
If youre a natty, you need YEARS of training to make progress.
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What makes you think I'm neutral? Wes is a good guy, this snowman character is a weird and creepy dude posting the same vid all over this board. I want him to know that I think he's a disturbed and troubled person and needs help. He's probably a piece of shit as well.
You have a problem with that?
Thanks brother....he`s just another anonymous asshole.
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Yep...it's like some of the country boys where I grew up who could just walk into the gym having never lifted and smoke the guys who had been there for years...
I know what you mean. Some of the 'darker skinned' guys who live in my 'guest house' are absolutely jacked, and they never workout unless you count picking cotton all day in my backyard.
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AND, your point about eating high cal for years (basically permabulking) will result in muscle growth. THEN you cut, and you've got that nice musculature.
That's what the natty naysayers don't get. They go in for a few months, dont get anywhere and think YOU MUST be on something cause THEY haven't gotten anywhere due to the short time span of training.
If youre a natty, you need YEARS of training to make progress.
Yep. I've been training almost 29 years to get where I am today. Most of the diapers offering their 'input' haven't even been alive that long.
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ach r u using steroids i cant sleep at night because its all i think about!! why do u look better than me u must be using.. lmao 8)
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When you guys say genetics is everything.... do you all mean, that the person is naturally and already big before he touches weights, so when he lifts just gets all that much bigger?
Or
Do you mean that the person regardless if he's small or big before he lifts he just responds well to training and eating?
Cause, when I look at myself before lifting, I was NO WHERE NEAR big.... I weighed like a max of 150 lbs soaking wet, with no muscle at all... when I was younger my parents would say I looked like a starving ethiopian refugee! lol And then after years of lifting I got my weight all the way up to 265 lbs... granted I looked more like a football player than a bodybuilder, but still.... sure beat being a skinny ass buck fifty!
I think I have pretty good genetics not great, but good... don't think they're bad in any way, but I would never think that I'm genetically gifted for the sport. But, I mean eating a ton, 3000-4000 calories for so long and training pretty hard 2-3 hours everyday has to do something to you, right?
2-3 hours a day!!.. i train 3 hours max. a week!!..
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2-3 hours a day!!.. i train 3 hours max. a week!!..
Same here.
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2-3 hours a day!!.. i train 3 hours max. a week!!..
That could be why you look like shit..HTH ;D
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Bic Ach is natural. If not, then he just sucks...
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I've always been a volume trainer... Always, and its not like I have a stone set plan in the gym, no...., I go in and lift as much as I can, if I'm done with my routine and I can keep going, I just keep going, doesn't matter how long I've been in there, I leave when my body is SCREEEEAMING and I can't go any further!! 2-3 hours is my norm, but I've gone 4.5 hours once or twice before! Many will say thats overtraining, but its how I've always done it and its what worked for me.
Lee Haney is famous for saying the line "stimulate don't annihilate" but thats never been me, I always annihilate when I train. As I said my norm is like 25-30 sets per body part, I won't lie though i also do take some long ass breaks in between sets, but whatever! Just how I've always done it!
Man... looking back I REMEMBER the day I benched.. or should I say MAXED OUT on 135 lbs, wow back then it felt like soooooooooooo much weight, and I could only do it for one rep with my friend helping me LOL.... I remember the first time I curled 30 lbs dumbells and they felt heavy as shit! That was like back in 8th grade, middle school LOL
Many people tend to follow the rules too much, only eat what... 1 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, don't eat too much or you'll get fat, don't train for more than 45 mins or then you are overtraining, don't go to failure every set, don't rest for more than 1 minute between sets, etc etc.... I say fuck these rules... I'm sorry I had to go to the extreme to really feel an impact, downing as much as 2.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, upping my cals as high I can possibly get them, training for 3 hours and training heavy and light, just doing everything I possibly can to grow, and staying consistent. It was my life, and still is, sure I do shit outside of bodybuilding, and I'm not crazy anal like a lot of people, I still eat out during contest prep and all.... but its always in my head, I am a bodybuilder and this is my lifestyle!
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2-3 hours a day!!.. i train 3 hours max. a week!!..
2 hrs a day.... Minimum
3 hrs a week under a hr a day
dont know about that
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Very true....thankfully as they've aged, they are just fat slobs now......while I'm getting better every year.....whooooooo !!!!!!!!!! ;D
HAHAHAHA! Maybe they got bit by a spider.
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HAHAHAHA! Maybe they got bit by a spider.
Then there are a helluva lot of spiders running around in NC backwoods..... ;D
PS: you'll never make it kid... 8)
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I`m 55 years old ,how much muscle do you expect me to gain at this point? :-\
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever you say Sally O'Mally
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Then there are a helluva lot of spiders running around in NC backwoods..... ;D
PS: you'll never make it kid... 8)
Could Adonis make it?? :D :D I kinda figure that he would walk through and he would say stuff like, "Icky, eww, gross, nasty,..etc"
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Then there are a helluva lot of spiders running around in NC backwoods..... ;D
PS: you'll never make it kid... 8)
;D
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Jesus Christ!! 17 F-ing pages on whether or not Big Ach is natural or not??
OK, dude is natural. Stop the madness or I'll go nuts and kill everybody.
Thank you.
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Jesus Christ!! 17 F-ing pages on whether or not Big Ach is natural or not??
OK, dude is natural. Stop the madness or I'll go nuts and kill everybody.
Thank you.
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Jesus Christ!! 17 F-ing pages on whether or not Big Ach is natural or not??
OK, dude is natural. Stop the madness or I'll go nuts and kill everybody.
Thank you.
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af298/trhonda5/Gif%20Animations/maracas1.gif)
:D :D
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Could Adonis make it?? :D :D I kinda figure that he would walk through and he would say stuff like, "Icky, eww, gross, nasty,..etc"
haha, I can't see TA embracing the great outdoors without a full kitchen set-up in his parents motor coach...
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haha, I can't see TA embracing the great outdoors without a full kitchen set-up in his parents motor coach...
:D :D :D I can see him curl up in a ball and start crying. :o :o :o He would start complaining and some ole' country boy would find him sobbing and comfort him.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/chertransplant/Deliverance-1.jpg)
:D :D
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Brilliant pic!
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:D :D :D I can see him curl up in a ball and start crying. :o :o :o He would start complaining and some ole' country boy would find him sobbing and comfort him.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/chertransplant/Deliverance-1.jpg)
:D :D
"you shore got a purty mouth!" LOL...... ;D
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haha
coltrane .. you are as natural as a cock in a man's rectum
Coltrane (natural) > Sevastase (juicer).
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"you shore got a purty mouth!" LOL...... ;D
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn113/TMAN_UVA/deliverancetoothless.jpg)
Thanks. :o
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I've always been a volume trainer... Always, and its not like I have a stone set plan in the gym, no...., I go in and lift as much as I can, if I'm done with my routine and I can keep going, I just keep going, doesn't matter how long I've been in there, I leave when my body is SCREEEEAMING and I can't go any further!! 2-3 hours is my norm, but I've gone 4.5 hours once or twice before! Many will say thats overtraining, but its how I've always done it and its what worked for me.
Lee Haney is famous for saying the line "stimulate don't annihilate" but thats never been me, I always annihilate when I train. As I said my norm is like 25-30 sets per body part, I won't lie though i also do take some long ass breaks in between sets, but whatever! Just how I've always done it!
Man... looking back I REMEMBER the day I benched.. or should I say MAXED OUT on 135 lbs, wow back then it felt like soooooooooooo much weight, and I could only do it for one rep with my friend helping me LOL.... I remember the first time I curled 30 lbs dumbells and they felt heavy as shit! That was like back in 8th grade, middle school LOL
Many people tend to follow the rules too much, only eat what... 1 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, don't eat too much or you'll get fat, don't train for more than 45 mins or then you are overtraining, don't go to failure every set, don't rest for more than 1 minute between sets, etc etc.... I say fuck these rules... I'm sorry I had to go to the extreme to really feel an impact, downing as much as 2.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, upping my cals as high I can possibly get them, training for 3 hours and training heavy and light, just doing everything I possibly can to grow, and staying consistent. It was my life, and still is, sure I do shit outside of bodybuilding, and I'm not crazy anal like a lot of people, I still eat out during contest prep and all.... but its always in my head, I am a bodybuilder and this is my lifestyle!
sure we are not the same and what works for someone may not work for the other.. i am sure what you do works great for you.. but for me to stay more than 1 hour in the gym is just very boring!!..
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so have we decided if hes natural yet?
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so have we decided if hes natural yet?
Given the fact he has admitted to taking prohormones I'm inclined to believe him. Maybe it's his winning smile.
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Coltrane (natural) > Sevastase (juicer).
that Kills him inside...
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
You look like a jacked Fei Long from Super Street Fighter... 8)
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I've always been a volume trainer... Always, and its not like I have a stone set plan in the gym, no...., I go in and lift as much as I can, if I'm done with my routine and I can keep going, I just keep going, doesn't matter how long I've been in there, I leave when my body is SCREEEEAMING and I can't go any further!! 2-3 hours is my norm, but I've gone 4.5 hours once or twice before! Many will say thats overtraining, but its how I've always done it and its what worked for me.
Lee Haney is famous for saying the line "stimulate don't annihilate" but thats never been me, I always annihilate when I train. As I said my norm is like 25-30 sets per body part, I won't lie though i also do take some long ass breaks in between sets, but whatever! Just how I've always done it!
1hr 15minutes for me... 15 for cardio or whatever usually. Most I ever did was 4.5 hours as well way back in the day, doing marathon type sets rotating from exercise to exercise with no rest for 9 sets before I would stop to drink water and prepare for the next marathon set. Was stupid but when your young and want to grow you'll try just about anything.
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I've always been a volume trainer... Always, and its not like I have a stone set plan in the gym, no...., I go in and lift as much as I can, if I'm done with my routine and I can keep going, I just keep going, doesn't matter how long I've been in there, I leave when my body is SCREEEEAMING and I can't go any further!! 2-3 hours is my norm, but I've gone 4.5 hours once or twice before! Many will say thats overtraining, but its how I've always done it and its what worked for me.
Lee Haney is famous for saying the line "stimulate don't annihilate" but thats never been me, I always annihilate when I train. As I said my norm is like 25-30 sets per body part, I won't lie though i also do take some long ass breaks in between sets, but whatever! Just how I've always done it!
Man... looking back I REMEMBER the day I benched.. or should I say MAXED OUT on 135 lbs, wow back then it felt like soooooooooooo much weight, and I could only do it for one rep with my friend helping me LOL.... I remember the first time I curled 30 lbs dumbells and they felt heavy as shit! That was like back in 8th grade, middle school LOL
Many people tend to follow the rules too much, only eat what... 1 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, don't eat too much or you'll get fat, don't train for more than 45 mins or then you are overtraining, don't go to failure every set, don't rest for more than 1 minute between sets, etc etc.... I say fuck these rules... I'm sorry I had to go to the extreme to really feel an impact, downing as much as 2.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, upping my cals as high I can possibly get them, training for 3 hours and training heavy and light, just doing everything I possibly can to grow, and staying consistent. It was my life, and still is, sure I do shit outside of bodybuilding, and I'm not crazy anal like a lot of people, I still eat out during contest prep and all.... but its always in my head, I am a bodybuilder and this is my lifestyle!
I can't do marathon training; I used to when I started, made almost no progress; made the most progress on 1 hour HST routines.
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I can't do marathon training; I used to when I started, made almost no progress; made the most progress on 1 hour HST routines.
Have you ever tried PITT-Force? If not give it a try, it has worked wonders for many people who've failed with conventional training systems.
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Have you ever tried PITT-Force? If not give it a try, it has worked wonders for many people who've failed with conventional training systems.
I don't know that system. Do you have any links maybe?
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so have we decided if hes natural yet?
Has the jury reached a verdict? lol ;D
Sherief and Saucetradomous... I agree everyone is different, I've seen guys that train for 30 mins and they grow like a weed... 2-3 hours is always whats worked for me!!! Bottom line is, its gotta be fun and one has to be consistent.
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I don't know that system. Do you have any links maybe?
www.google.com
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Has the jury reached a verdict? lol ;D
Sherief and Saucetradomous... I agree everyone is different, I've seen guys that train for 30 mins and they grow like a weed... 2-3 hours is always whats worked for me!!! Bottom line is, its gotta be fun and one has to be consistent.
Ach, it has taking almost 20 pages for the "Getbig Jury" to say that you are not natural. Sorry but GB has decided to say you use some shit. :-\ :-\ Go figure. :o :o
When did it become such a hard thing to say, "Yea, i use some stuff or i just eat natural, sleep and train right." 8)
For Fucks sake.
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www.google.com
*laughs into hand*
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www.google.com
Jaja, I get it.
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2-3 hours is always whats worked for me!!! Bottom line is, its gotta be fun and one has to be consistent.
Ditto. I take as much as 8 - 10 mins off between sets sometimes, if I'm doing heavy deadlifts or squats. Working out 7 times over 2 weeks (3 times one week and 4 times the next) is what gave me the best results.
With regards to your nattie status, there is a very simple and easy-to-follow rule of thumb - if you are smaller than Sevastase, you're natural (although even then, it is highly possible that you're lying). If you are bigger (i.e your arms are over 11"), then you are a drug abuser, plain and simple ;D
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Ditto. I take as much as 8 - 10 mins off between sets sometimes, if I'm doing heavy deadlifts or squats. Working out 7 times over 2 weeks (3 times one week and 4 times the next) is what gave me the best results.
With regards to your nattie status, there is a very simple and easy-to-follow rule of thumb - if you are smaller than Sevastase, you're natural (although even then, it is highly possible that you're lying). If you are bigger (i.e your arms are over 11"), then you are a drug abuser, plain and simple ;D
TEG!
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Deicide if you are straight or nay
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Cant let this thread off the first page!
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thanks guys , i'm Korean by the way. weight fluctuates 70kg completely depleted with minimal BF~ 77kg carbed up with maybe 10~12% BF (height is 5'6~5'7)
sevastase ;) i remember your pathetic ass still juicing and benching fake plates good for U
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thanks guys , i'm Korean by the way. weight fluctuates 70kg completely depleted with minimal BF~ 77kg carbed up with maybe 10~12% BF (height is 5'6~5'7)
sevastase ;) i remember your pathetic ass still juicing and benching fake plates good for U
haha
brutal roid user who cannot break 80 kg's lol
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thanks guys , i'm Korean by the way. weight fluctuates 70kg completely depleted with minimal BF~ 77kg carbed up with maybe 10~12% BF (height is 5'6~5'7)
sevastase ;) i remember your pathetic ass still juicing and benching fake plates good for U
Sheebal hangul saram. Kae secki.
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Jesus Christ!! 17 F-ing pages on whether or not Big Ach is natural or not??
OK, dude is natural. Stop the madness or I'll go nuts and kill everybody.
Thank you.
the resason is was so long ,,is because you have here a kid,,arab fat kid but not fat and big ,,skinny fat!!! they are all over middle east,,you have him sitting here after decomposition of body by gh with other anabolics,, he sit here and LIE consistantly about it ,,he just has no shame like his generation fo retards ,,rich daddy from egypt = ALL YOU CAN GET GH ,,that kid was buying gh from china like warm buns,,a few kits easily and thts hwo he achieved a still nothing to write home about physiqe that wont get anywhere but to the public it look fit and fitness like level,,
you have here kids all over this boards sitting and actually tellin you in detaiul,,oh i eat this and that EAT EAT EATTTTTT BALONIE ,,,THE REASON THEY EAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON GH ,,GH GETS YOU TO EAT EVERY 2 HOURS CUZ IF NOT YOU GET SUCH A FUCKIN HEADACHE AND LOSE BODY FAT TOO FAST,,THOSE RATRDS THINK THEY FOOL ANYONE ,,ONLY ONE THEY FOOL IS THEMSELVES SINCE GH15 GAVE HERE BIBLE YEARS AGO AND MOST SERIOUS BODYBUIDLDER ACTUALLY READ IT AND KNOW IT ,,
it is sad that you have here egyptian fucktard that sit in orlando capital of hormone of usa where everything go ,,and tell you he is natural ,,
not only he is doped but he been on GROWTH HORMONE,,like any other bodybuilder now days,,you cant stuff all this food with out gh thats what some of you dont get ,, the bodybuilder in 70s did not eat that much ,,it was all stories and balonie,,thats why didnt get to be very big or huge,,the bodybuilder now eat their mommy and daddy and eat NOT CLEAan WHY?? BECAUSE OF THE USE OF GROWTH HORMONE AS AN INTERGRAL PART OF BODYBUILDING LIFE,,THEY FIGHT OVER IT LIKE YOU FIGHT OVER PUSSY AFTER GETTING OUT OF PRISON
how can so many kids be so dumb and actually consider this fella or that addict mesomorph kid natural??? those are bodybuilding whores,,they live for size and live for lifting ,,no one who sacrifice his life for lifting is natural NO ONE,,
they go from board to board looking for the next purchase,,
many of you here are goolible of the 10th degree,,
READ THE BIBLE!
gh15 approved
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the resason is was so long ,,is because you have here a kid,,arab fat kid but not fat and big ,,skinny fat!!! they are all over middle east,,you have him sitting here after decomposition of body by gh with other anabolics,, he sit here and LIE consistantly about it ,,he just has no shame like his generation fo retards ,,rich daddy from egypt = ALL YOU CAN GET GH ,,that kid was buying gh from china like warm buns,,a few kits easily and thts hwo he achieved a still nothing to write home about physiqe that wont get anywhere but to the public it look fit and fitness like level,,
you have here kids all over this boards sitting and actually tellin you in detaiul,,oh i eat this and that EAT EAT EATTTTTT BALONIE ,,,THE REASON THEY EAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON GH ,,GH GETS YOU TO EAT EVERY 2 HOURS CUZ IF NOT YOU GET SUCH A FUCKIN HEADACHE AND LOSE BODY FAT TOO FAST,,THOSE RATRDS THINK THEY FOOL ANYONE ,,ONLY ONE THEY FOOL IS THEMSELVES SINCE GH15 GAVE HERE BIBLE YEARS AGO AND MOST SERIOUS BODYBUIDLDER ACTUALLY READ IT AND KNOW IT ,,
it is sad that you have here egyptian fucktard that sit in orlando capital of hormone of usa where everything go ,,and tell you he is natural ,,
not only he is doped but he been on GROWTH HORMONE,,like any other bodybuilder now days,,you cant stuff all this food with out gh thats what some of you dont get ,, the bodybuilder in 70s did not eat that much ,,it was all stories and balonie,,thats why didnt get to be very big or huge,,the bodybuilder now eat their mommy and daddy and eat NOT CLEAan WHY?? BECAUSE OF THE USE OF GROWTH HORMONE AS AN INTERGRAL PART OF BODYBUILDING LIFE,,THEY FIGHT OVER IT LIKE YOU FIGHT OVER PUSSY AFTER GETTING OUT OF PRISON
how can so many kids be so dumb and actually consider this fella or that addict mesomorph kid natural??? those are bodybuilding whores,,they live for size and live for lifting ,,no one who sacrifice his life for lifting is natural NO ONE,,
they go from board to board looking for the next purchase,,
many of you here are goolible of the 10th degree,,
READ THE BIBLE!
gh15 approved
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the resason is was so long ,,is because you have here a kid,,arab fat kid but not fat and big ,,skinny fat!!! they are all over middle east,,you have him sitting here after decomposition of body by gh with other anabolics,, he sit here and LIE consistantly about it ,,he just has no shame like his generation fo retards ,,rich daddy from egypt = ALL YOU CAN GET GH ,,that kid was buying gh from china like warm buns,,a few kits easily and thts hwo he achieved a still nothing to write home about physiqe that wont get anywhere but to the public it look fit and fitness like level,,
you have here kids all over this boards sitting and actually tellin you in detaiul,,oh i eat this and that EAT EAT EATTTTTT BALONIE ,,,THE REASON THEY EAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON GH ,,GH GETS YOU TO EAT EVERY 2 HOURS CUZ IF NOT YOU GET SUCH A FUCKIN HEADACHE AND LOSE BODY FAT TOO FAST,,THOSE RATRDS THINK THEY FOOL ANYONE ,,ONLY ONE THEY FOOL IS THEMSELVES SINCE GH15 GAVE HERE BIBLE YEARS AGO AND MOST SERIOUS BODYBUIDLDER ACTUALLY READ IT AND KNOW IT ,,
it is sad that you have here egyptian fucktard that sit in orlando capital of hormone of usa where everything go ,,and tell you he is natural ,,
not only he is doped but he been on GROWTH HORMONE,,like any other bodybuilder now days,,you cant stuff all this food with out gh thats what some of you dont get ,, the bodybuilder in 70s did not eat that much ,,it was all stories and balonie,,thats why didnt get to be very big or huge,,the bodybuilder now eat their mommy and daddy and eat NOT CLEAan WHY?? BECAUSE OF THE USE OF GROWTH HORMONE AS AN INTERGRAL PART OF BODYBUILDING LIFE,,THEY FIGHT OVER IT LIKE YOU FIGHT OVER PUSSY AFTER GETTING OUT OF PRISON
how can so many kids be so dumb and actually consider this fella or that addict mesomorph kid natural??? those are bodybuilding whores,,they live for size and live for lifting ,,no one who sacrifice his life for lifting is natural NO ONE,,
they go from board to board looking for the next purchase,,
many of you here are goolible of the 10th degree,,
READ THE BIBLE!
gh15 approved
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(http://www.lolsauce.com/RandomBS/English%20Mother%20Fucker.jpeg)
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i'm a lifetime natural, i haven't even taken ephedra.
summertime :
Great natural physique bro...
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the resason is was so long ,,is because you have here a kid,,arab fat kid but not fat and big ,,skinny fat!!! they are all over middle east,,you have him sitting here after decomposition of body by gh with other anabolics,, he sit here and LIE consistantly about it ,,he just has no shame like his generation fo retards ,,rich daddy from egypt = ALL YOU CAN GET GH ,,that kid was buying gh from china like warm buns,,a few kits easily and thts hwo he achieved a still nothing to write home about physiqe that wont get anywhere but to the public it look fit and fitness like level,,
you have here kids all over this boards sitting and actually tellin you in detaiul,,oh i eat this and that EAT EAT EATTTTTT BALONIE ,,,THE REASON THEY EAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON GH ,,GH GETS YOU TO EAT EVERY 2 HOURS CUZ IF NOT YOU GET SUCH A FUCKIN HEADACHE AND LOSE BODY FAT TOO FAST,,THOSE RATRDS THINK THEY FOOL ANYONE ,,ONLY ONE THEY FOOL IS THEMSELVES SINCE GH15 GAVE HERE BIBLE YEARS AGO AND MOST SERIOUS BODYBUIDLDER ACTUALLY READ IT AND KNOW IT ,,
it is sad that you have here egyptian fucktard that sit in orlando capital of hormone of usa where everything go ,,and tell you he is natural ,,
not only he is doped but he been on GROWTH HORMONE,,like any other bodybuilder now days,,you cant stuff all this food with out gh thats what some of you dont get ,, the bodybuilder in 70s did not eat that much ,,it was all stories and balonie,,thats why didnt get to be very big or huge,,the bodybuilder now eat their mommy and daddy and eat NOT CLEAan WHY?? BECAUSE OF THE USE OF GROWTH HORMONE AS AN INTERGRAL PART OF BODYBUILDING LIFE,,THEY FIGHT OVER IT LIKE YOU FIGHT OVER PUSSY AFTER GETTING OUT OF PRISON
how can so many kids be so dumb and actually consider this fella or that addict mesomorph kid natural??? those are bodybuilding whores,,they live for size and live for lifting ,,no one who sacrifice his life for lifting is natural NO ONE,,
they go from board to board looking for the next purchase,,
many of you here are goolible of the 10th degree,,
READ THE BIBLE!
gh15 approved
Nice. Exactly what I was thinking but didn't feel like taking the time to type it all out.
When someone is just lying through their teeth, it's hard to turn away from it.
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the resason is was so long ,,is because you have here a kid,,arab fat kid but not fat and big ,,skinny fat!!! they are all over middle east,,you have him sitting here after decomposition of body by gh with other anabolics,, he sit here and LIE consistantly about it ,,he just has no shame like his generation fo retards ,,rich daddy from egypt = ALL YOU CAN GET GH ,,that kid was buying gh from china like warm buns,,a few kits easily and thts hwo he achieved a still nothing to write home about physiqe that wont get anywhere but to the public it look fit and fitness like level,,
you have here kids all over this boards sitting and actually tellin you in detaiul,,oh i eat this and that EAT EAT EATTTTTT BALONIE ,,,THE REASON THEY EAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON GH ,,GH GETS YOU TO EAT EVERY 2 HOURS CUZ IF NOT YOU GET SUCH A FUCKIN HEADACHE AND LOSE BODY FAT TOO FAST,,THOSE RATRDS THINK THEY FOOL ANYONE ,,ONLY ONE THEY FOOL IS THEMSELVES SINCE GH15 GAVE HERE BIBLE YEARS AGO AND MOST SERIOUS BODYBUIDLDER ACTUALLY READ IT AND KNOW IT ,,
it is sad that you have here egyptian fucktard that sit in orlando capital of hormone of usa where everything go ,,and tell you he is natural ,,
not only he is doped but he been on GROWTH HORMONE,,like any other bodybuilder now days,,you cant stuff all this food with out gh thats what some of you dont get ,, the bodybuilder in 70s did not eat that much ,,it was all stories and balonie,,thats why didnt get to be very big or huge,,the bodybuilder now eat their mommy and daddy and eat NOT CLEAan WHY?? BECAUSE OF THE USE OF GROWTH HORMONE AS AN INTERGRAL PART OF BODYBUILDING LIFE,,THEY FIGHT OVER IT LIKE YOU FIGHT OVER PUSSY AFTER GETTING OUT OF PRISON
how can so many kids be so dumb and actually consider this fella or that addict mesomorph kid natural??? those are bodybuilding whores,,they live for size and live for lifting ,,no one who sacrifice his life for lifting is natural NO ONE,,
they go from board to board looking for the next purchase,,
many of you here are goolible of the 10th degree,,
READ THE BIBLE!
gh15 approved
It's sad what I do??? I'm the one with my name and face out there. And you're the one who goes by gh15, no credentials, no name, no face, no nothing, just a screen name. Yet you give people advice on all sort of drug use lol yet - its me who's in the wrong? lol
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It's sad what I do??? I'm the one with my name and face out there. And you're the one who goes by gh15, no credentials, no name, no face, no nothing, just a screen name. Yet you give people advice on all sort of drug use lol yet - its me who's in the wrong? lol
are you trying to say that gh15 is this man ;D ;D
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It's sad what I do??? I'm the one with my name and face out there. And you're the one who goes by gh15, no credentials, no name, no face, no nothing, just a screen name. Yet you give people advice on all sort of drug use lol yet - its me who's in the wrong? lol
its you who is in the wrong ,,because middle east genetic is like mustaf mohamad post bodybuilding era lol you saw hsi pic? this is middle east genetic,,everyone belong in that group of middle eastern from israel eli hanna,, to mustafa,, to shari kamali to anyone there without hormone in system ,,YES SAMIR STILL HORMONIZED TO THIS DAY ,,AND NOT HRT lol
so you are in the wrong because its vry easy to take money from daddy and get china gh,,or even serostim which all same thing if you get legit gh,,and gh momnet put in body will give the most imbacile untalented average sub average joe the phyiqe of a guy that been in the gym kickin hi as and in most cases guy on magazine of fitness or fruit of the loom kind of commercials,,thats what gh do ,,and no you dont have to do speical diet ,,you need to eat your mommy and pappi because if not you burn fat too fast ,,and you know it very very well,,so dont play innocent ,,
dont worry thousands like you ,,this cult is bunch of liars who try to impress eachother and few 18 year old girls who dont care
gh15 approved
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its you who is in the wrong ,,because middle east genetic is like mustaf mohamad post bodybuilding era lol you saw hsi pic? this is middle east genetic,,everyone belong in that group of middle eastern from israel eli hanna,, to mustafa,, to shari kamali to anyone there without hormone in system ,,YES SAMIR STILL HORMONIZED TO THIS DAY ,,AND NOT HRT lol
so you are in the wrong because its vry easy to take money from daddy and get china gh,,or even serostim which all same thing if you get legit gh,,and gh momnet put in body will give the most imbacile untalented average sub average joe the phyiqe of a guy that been in the gym kickin hi as and in most cases guy on magazine of fitness or fruit of the loom kind of commercials,,thats what gh do ,,and no you dont have to do speical diet ,,you need to eat your mommy and pappi because if not you burn fat too fast ,,and you know it very very well,,so dont play innocent ,,
dont worry thousands like you ,,this cult is bunch of liars who try to impress eachother and few 18 year old girls who dont care
gh15 approved
:) That part made me laugh GH15 - you got a way with words!
Ok, you obviously firmly believe this about me, and it really seems like I can't change your opinion - so whatever, I'm not even gonna try man! Believe whatever you want!
Do you believe ANYONE is natural? Or should I say have you ever seen a bodybuilder that looks good and that you think is natural? If so post a pic!
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nice job painting every person of Arab descent with the same brush GH15- very sound logic!.....It's gotta be flattering for Ach that so many people actually care if he's natural or not...
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:) That part made me laugh GH15 - you got a way with words!
Ok, you obviously firmly believe this about me, and it really seems like I can't change your opinion - so whatever, I'm not even gonna try man! Believe whatever you want!
Do you believe ANYONE is natural? Or should I say have you ever seen a bodybuilder that looks good and that you think is natural? If so post a pic!
Quit your lying. You're obviously on the shit.
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Quit your lying. You're obviously on the shit.
What is a natural supposed to look like exactly? :)
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What is a natural supposed to look like exactly? :)
We all know this shit. Anyone who's been into lifting for a decade or more knows.
Don't insult our intelligence.
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We all know this shit. Anyone who's been into lifting for a decade or more knows.
Don't insult our intelligence.
Dude why are you getting so pissed off? It's just a simple question. What's a natural supposed to look like? Really I wanna see an example of what you think is the max for a nattie?
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Dude why are you getting so pissed off? It's just a simple question. What's a natural supposed to look like? Really I wanna see an example of what you think is the max for a nattie?
I don't wanna go digging through pics of half-naked men to find the ultimate natural physique.
I wasn't born yesterday though.
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I don't wanna go digging through pics of half-naked men to find the ultimate natural physique.
I wasn't born yesterday though.
Ok! 8)
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Has the jury reached a verdict? lol ;D
Sherief and Saucetradomous... I agree everyone is different, I've seen guys that train for 30 mins and they grow like a weed... 2-3 hours is always whats worked for me!!! Bottom line is, its gotta be fun and one has to be consistent.
Who cares, people will always think you're on gear no matter if you actually are or not, after 2 years of working out I was hearing this from all my friends 'oh he's on steroids' so I said fuck it, I might as well since everybody thinks I'm doing them anyways, heh
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Hahahah Ggh15 exposing this lil' twunt 'Big (oh brother what a name ::)) ACH'
It's obvious he is 'living teh dream' ::) ::)
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Hahahah Ggh15 exposing this lil' twunt 'Big (oh brother what a name ::)) ACH'
It's obvious he is 'living teh dream' ::) ::)
Actually - GH15 couldn't be far from the truth! So no exposing was done LOL
And I'm definitely not "living the dream" - nor am I trying to.... which is why I went for higher education!
Bodybuilding for me is and always will be just a hobby! ;)
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OK that's it. I've taken all I can take- I can't takes no more. >:(
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Actually you are wrong... I've openly admitted to using pro-hormones in the past, which have been acceptable in EVERY natural organization out there! I have competed in both the OCB and the NGA, and passed their drug tests, both lie detector and urinalysis.... Never competed in the NPC!
Didn't you in the past partake in the Johnny Falcon workout routine? Do you credit that for the shape you are in today?
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Who gives a fuck?? ;D ;D
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
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No one is natural, not even Fat Panda. :D :D
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
You are a fag.
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Didn't you in the past partake in the Johnny Falcon workout routine? Do you credit that for the shape you are in today?
No, never? What is Johnny Falcon's workout routine?
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R U still claiming to not use drugs??
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354035.0;attach=393244;image)
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
Spoken like a true Don. Some like us are just born with it; can mass around only lifting when we feel like it; if we crank it up a little simply scare the shit out of the mortals.
It's who we are and it's good to be us ;D
End of the story ;D
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oh brother
groink is STUFFED with gear but he likes to provoke reactions by claiming nattie. oone that has a clue takes him seriously as is alex23 ... big ach uses as well
whats the big mistery?
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oh brother
groink is STUFFED with gear but he likes to provoke reactions by claiming nattie. oone that has a clue takes him seriously as is alex23 ... big ach uses as well
whats the big mistery?
A sound theory.....but off base.
appreciate the kind words though Sev......"stuffed with gear"...i must be doing something right
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Looking good groink
ignore the haters this board is full of jealous haters who judge everyone by their genetics some people have better genetics...
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Looking good groink
ignore the haters this board is full of jealous haters who judge everyone by their genetics some people have better genetics...
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Good natural physique if ever I saw one.
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Good natural physique if ever I saw one.
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Looking good groink
ignore the haters this board is full of jealous haters who judge everyone by their genetics some people have better genetics...
You still claiming natural but also pushing Zog's social engineering experiment? 2 thumbs up if you are.
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Looking good groink
ignore the haters this board is full of jealous haters who judge everyone by their genetics some people have better genetics...
I myself judge people by height and race. So does Arnold. Muscle means nothing ::)
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lots of cunts who get a hard cock when they see a man in panties in this thread
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
Hahaha, I remember those gay little journals! don't forget the duffel bag with pro size 2" thick belt, those little cut off bicycle gloves, wraps, straps, chalk and 2lb container of Whey, all while weighing 163lbs.
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Hahaha, I remember those gay little journals! don't forget the duffel bag with pro size 2" thick belt, those little cut off bicycle gloves, wraps, straps, chalk and 2lb container of Whey, all while weighing 163lbs.
Just get in there and lift weights!!! People over complicate shit soooo much!!!
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
omg....
YOU
ARE
NOT
NATURAL
DOESNT TAKE A FUCKNIG GENIOUS TO FIGURE THAT OUT
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its you who is in the wrong ,,because middle east genetic is like mustaf mohamad post bodybuilding era lol you saw hsi pic? this is middle east genetic,,everyone belong in that group of middle eastern from israel eli hanna,, to mustafa,, to shari kamali to anyone there without hormone in system ,,YES SAMIR STILL HORMONIZED TO THIS DAY ,,AND NOT HRT lol
so you are in the wrong because its vry easy to take money from daddy and get china gh,,or even serostim which all same thing if you get legit gh,,and gh momnet put in body will give the most imbacile untalented average sub average joe the phyiqe of a guy that been in the gym kickin hi as and in most cases guy on magazine of fitness or fruit of the loom kind of commercials,,thats what gh do ,,and no you dont have to do speical diet ,,you need to eat your mommy and pappi because if not you burn fat too fast ,,and you know it very very well,,so dont play innocent ,,
dont worry thousands like you ,,this cult is bunch of liars who try to impress eachother and few 18 year old girls who dont care
gh15 approved
yet another post claiming everyone is using gear to protect your fragile ego because you needed gear to achieve anything.
your fragile persona is obvious to the observer and it must be sad to be you. the delusion and psychological traits are plain to see and ive no doubt that heavy drug use has contributed to that, made it worse, or caused it all together.
you really need to get a handle on reality before its too late.
i predict you'll go to jail for drug dealing, assault, or murder- at some time in your life..unless you address your issues.
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
yes big, but take the shirt off and you are an ugly mess mr pemabulker :-\
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natural thickness....250 in this pic TEG for life bitches
LOLOLOLOLOL at all of the tiny haters with shit genetics.....you all should try a different hobby because you SUCK at lifting weights.
I laugh at turds who go to the gym every day,eat PERFECT never miss a workout, and have their little fucking journals that they religiously scribble in. and yet they never get big...hahahahaaahahaaaha haaaaaaaa....that must suck
Did I hear 250+?
Not lean in any shape or form but how sad must it be spending aaaaaallll that time in the gym just to have no one notice a single bit with a shirt on.. ;D
"yea but I've got a six pack" bawawawa... start wearing a 1980's "belly cut off" t shirt then.. bawawa..
If it ain't showing with your cloths on, you're last.
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Actually you are wrong... I've openly admitted to using pro-hormones in the past, which have been acceptable in EVERY natural organization out there! I have competed in both the OCB and the NGA, and passed their drug tests, both lie detector and urinalysis.... Never competed in the NPC!
so you are not natural.
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start wearing a 1980's "belly cut off" t shirt then.. bawawa..
Shit, we actually wore those things back in the day. Thankfully there is no photographic evidence. :P
Just to stay on topic. Ach is natural (aside form the pro hormone thing ) and there's a good chance Groink is too. Groink's pretty fucking big for a natty but I've seen some massive dudes who may approximate his size and bf% if they dieted down.
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yet another post claiming everyone is using gear to protect your fragile ego because you needed gear to achieve anything.
your fragile persona is obvious to the observer and it must be sad to be you. the delusion and psychological traits are plain to see and ive no doubt that heavy drug use has contributed to that, made it worse, or caused it all together.
you really need to get a handle on reality before its too late.
i predict you'll go to jail for drug dealing, assault, or murder- at some time in your life..unless you address your issues.
every IS using gear ,,everyone who looks LARGE AND DECENLTY conditioned,,large doest mean big guy it means LARGE for your height,, so thats that ,,second if i went down bodybuilding went down ,,so im protected like a lion protect their cubs,,have you ever seen how lion protect their cubs?
thats how i am protexted so fucktard like big arch can posting pictures online and get compliments...
whenever you walk the street enter a bar going to discoteck entering book store entering mall and you hear a compliment about your body always remember friend ALWAYS REMEMBER ,,gh15 is in your blood!
gh15 approved
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Shit, we actually wore those things back in the day. Thankfully there is no photographic evidence. :P
Just to stay on topic. Ach is natural (aside form the pro hormone thing ) and there's a good chance Groink is too. Groink's pretty fucking big for a natty but I've seen some massive dudes who may approximate his size and bf% if they dieted down.
Thanks dude ;-) Appreciate the nod!
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Thanks dude ;-) Appreciate the nod!
No problem man. You carry a little more muscle than I do and I know I'm natural, so I don't find your natty status hard to believe at all. Keep doin' what your doin' because it's working.
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ACH is married to an infidel. Nothing natural about that.
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Groink looks like a bloated mess, not as fat as Alex but it's all relative.
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Big Ach approved
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yes big, but take the shirt off and you are an ugly mess mr pemabulker :-\
There's a reason why he always post pix with a tank on. Always with a tank on. Big arms and shoulders but droopy chest, flabby gut.
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bump
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Yes I think Ach is natural... but his hero Doug Miller is a lying sack of shit LOL look at this fools 1 week out pics
http://dougmillerpro.com/other.html
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ACH is married to an infidel. Nothing natural about that.
LOL my wife is Egyptian like me - just light skinned! :D
Big Ach approved
Yeah yeah - knock yourself out at my nose's expense!
Yes I think Ach is natural... but his hero Doug Miller is a lying sack of shit LOL look at this fools 1 week out pics
http://dougmillerpro.com/other.html
Disagree with you - but whatever! He's fucking jaaaaaaacked - picture's don't do him justice - believe me!
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Like Mr Alex said in another thread....which one of you faceless trolls can match it? ?
Oh yeah...I'm "fat"....LOLOLOLOLOL. ;D
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Yes I think Ach is natural... but his hero Doug Miller is a lying sack of shit LOL look at this fools 1 week out pics
http://dougmillerpro.com/other.html
egyptian in bodybuilding are nto naturals especially iflive in americnaa especially if live in orlando capital of hormone user in whole usa,,on every 10 people who walk on street there 2 are hormonized,,yes that mean right 20-30% of puolulation of city orlando is hormonized it PRACTICALLY ALLOWED THERE WHILW CLOSING EYE,,
gh15 approved
gh15 approved
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on every 10 people who walk on street there 2 are hormonized,,yes that mean right 20-30% of puolulation of city orlando is hormonized
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Some people are so naive when it comes to steroids and who uses them.
Like when you watch youtube videos of enormous, shredded bodybuilders and there's all these idiots saying "Is he natural?".
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egyptian in bodybuilding are nto naturals especially iflive in americnaa especially if live in orlando capital of hormone user in whole usa,,on every 10 people who walk on street there 2 are hormonized,,yes that mean right 20-30% of puolulation of city orlando is hormonized it PRACTICALLY ALLOWED THERE WHILW CLOSING EYE,,
gh15 approved
gh15 approved
LOL But GH15 - I JUST moved here a few months ago! Before that I was living in Washington DC - the murder Capital, Am I a murderer too? :)
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I hate uppity spoiled rich kids. And liars.
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LOL But GH15 - I JUST moved here a few months ago! Before that I was living in Washington DC - the murder Capital, Am I a murderer too? :)
but bigarch,,it doesnt matter when you moves where,,the place you live right now is the capital of hormone in americana,,most bodybuildeer and most drug user per quare mile,,its alot more common to be hormone user than murderer,,see to be hormone user you can do it while blubing on getbig,,to be murderer you actually need to get out of house,,
gh15 approved
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but bigarch,,it doesnt matter when you moves where,,the place you live right now is the capital of hormone in americana,,most bodybuildeer and most drug user per quare mile,,its alot more common to be hormone user than murderer,,see to be hormone user you can do it while blubing on getbig,,to be murderer you actually need to get out of house,,
gh15 approved
Where did you get those statistics abour Orlando being the capital of hormone usage? Either way, I'm glad you firmly believe I'm using something, lets me know I'm doing something right!! Come join me in a training session! I'll even treat you to a protein shake after! What do you say? ;D
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Where did you get those statistics abour Orlando being the capital of hormone usage? Either way, I'm glad you firmly believe I'm using something, lets me know I'm doing something right!! Come join me in a training session! I'll even treat you to a protein shake after! What do you say? ;D
I'd like to jack you for your daddy's money. Then i'll take all the steroids you have in your gym bag too.
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I'd like to jack you for your daddy's money. Then i'll take all the steroids you have in your gym bag too.
Thats like a lifetime supply of pharm grade egyptian steroids, you can cycle till you die, munzer style!
Then i'd raid his fridge and help my self to an all you can eat growth hormone buffet..delicious! ;D
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I'd like to jack you for your daddy's money. Then i'll take all the steroids you have in your gym bag too.
If you can take me down, considering the fact that I am bigger and stronger than you are..... naturally 8)
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Yes, big ach = an upstanding citizen and natural bodybuilder with humongous arms
who needs to see the squat rack more often
respect bitches 8)
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Yes, big ach = an upstanding citizen and natural bodybuilder with humongous arms who needs to see the squat rack more often
respect bitches 8)
It's funny cause its true!!! But I fucking hate squats!!! I'm not even gonna make an excuse like I don't do squats because it hurts me knees or my back! I just fucking hate doing them!!! Whatever dudes lollll
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If you can take me down, considering the fact that I am bigger and stronger than you are..... naturally 8)
If I told you to give me all your money, you'd pull out your wallet, hand it over, and run away.
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If I told you to give me all your money, you'd pull out your wallet, hand it over, and run away.
Is that a fact? :-)
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Is that a fact? :-)
It's a fact..... bitch.
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It's a fact..... bitch.
Please don't hurt me :'(
(http://slantmouth.com/articles/filibusterILoveYou/images/dontHurtMe.jpg)
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Please don't hurt me :'(
(http://slantmouth.com/articles/filibusterILoveYou/images/dontHurtMe.jpg)
I won't hurt you.
As long as you toss my salad, i'll protect you.
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I won't hurt you.
As long as you toss my salad, i'll protect you.
OUTED!!! LOL
On another note - keep a look out, in a few weeks I will be starting contest prep, and will happily be sharing pictures of my fat ass! ;D
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OUTED!!! LOL
On another note - keep a look out, in a few weeks I will be starting contest prep, and will happily be sharing pictures of my fat ass! ;D
Cool, what's your pre-contest cycle?
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Cool, what's your pre-contest cycle?
Oh no - I won't be cycling.. never do the bike, I usually do some walking on the treadmill or hit the Elliptical for some HIT training! ;)
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Oh no - I won't be cycling.. never do the bike, I usually do some walking on the treadmill or hit the Elliptical for some HIT training! ;)
You are my bitch.
Do some more steroids to get that ass of yours rock hard. When I assrape you that's how I like it :-*
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You are my bitch.
Do some more steroids to get that ass of yours rock hard. When I assrape you that's how I like it :-*
I think you have me confused for Johnnynoname ;D
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I think you have me confused for Johnnynoname ;D
Those huge teeth and gums of yours will feel great on my sweaty nutsack and gooch.
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Oh no - I won't be cycling.. never do the bike, I usually do some walking on the treadmill or hit the Elliptical for some HIT training! ;)
i really dont like you,,i think you are sittign here and misleading this fellas with no shame eventhough your physiqe is average ,,youre a misleader and proudly sit here and do it ,,be careful i really start despizing you with all of your good persona cover,,stop it while you ahead,,wwwbigach.com
copetitions,,all natural balonie,,stop with this lies you jsut creating yourself a mess
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i really dont like you,,i think you are sittign here and misleading this fellas with no shame eventhough your physiqe is average ,,youre a misleader and proudly sit here and do it ,,be careful i really start despizing you with all of your good persona cover,,stop it while you ahead,,wwwbigach.com
copetitions,,all natural balonie,,stop with this lies you jsut creating yourself a mess
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GH15 - I'm sorry you don't like me, I wish it was different. But I have not told a single lie, I have shared my diet, training, background information, etc...even put up a bet to take a drug test to appease you guys, all thats left is for you to move in with me, and I doubt that will go well with my wife LOL!
Aside from the Pro-hormones I've mentioned, I have never used steroids, or GH, or anything of the sort! Again, this is never going to be proven from your side or from my side, it will continue to be a he said/she said type shit! So again, believe whatever you want! I start contest prep in a few weeks and will be sharing all my pics and program with everyone!
I dunno how everyone is, but the persona I present up here on the board is EXACTLY how I am in real life, so I'm sorry you have this misconception of me, but this is the truth. Again though, if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want! 8)
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GH15 - I'm sorry you don't like me, I wish it was different. But I have not told a single lie, I have shared my diet, training, background information, etc...even put up a bet to take a drug test to appease you guys, all thats left is for you to move in with me, and I doubt that will go well with my wife LOL!
Aside from the Pro-hormones I've mentioned, I have never used steroids, or GH, or anything of the sort! Again, this is never going to be proven from your side or from my side, it will continue to be a he said/she said type shit! So again, believe whatever you want! I start contest prep in a few weeks and will be sharing all my pics and program with everyone!
I dunno how everyone is, but the persona I present up here on the board is EXACTLY how I am in real life, so I'm sorry you have this misconception of me, but this is the truth. Again though, if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want! 8)
What's starting to piss me off is that it has been mentioned now many many times that M1T and the likes ARE NOT ph.
They are steroids. You have taken steroids, even if you think you have not. Sorry, but that is a fact.
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What's starting to piss me off is that it has been mentioned now many many times that M1T and the likes ARE NOT ph.
They are steroids. You have taken steroids, even if you think you have not. Sorry, but that is a fact.
Not according to every single natural organization! Call them whatever you want, I really don't give a shit, call them ph call them steroids!!!
I TOOK M1T - never denied that!
AND STILL EVERY NATURAL ORGANIZATION CONSIDERS ME A NATURAL BODYBUILDER!!!!
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Not according to every single natural organization! Call them whatever you want, I really don't give a shit, call them ph call them steroids!!!
I TOOK M1T - never denied that!
AND STILL EVERY NATURAL ORGANIZATION CONSIDERS ME A NATURAL BODYBUILDER!!!!
Bullshit. You are doing test and dbol and all that shit.
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Not according to every single natural organization! Call them whatever you want, I really don't give a shit, call them ph call them steroids!!!
I TOOK M1T - never denied that!
AND STILL EVERY NATURAL ORGANIZATION CONSIDERS ME A NATURAL BODYBUILDER!!!!
LOL, once you start with the definitions, you're done. Sorry to say it, but also offering a drug test is ridiculous, because they are easy to beat.
The definition here on getbig for natural means "no use of hormones for a lifetime", if you have used even once, you are "clean" when you are off roids. The definiton of these "natural" organizations are ridiculous anyways in my eyes, you can juice like a madman for 20 years, then come of for three and you are "natural" again.
Can you tell me how a guy with a juice history of 20 years can compare himself to someone that has never used anything in his life? It's impossible.
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LOL, once you start with the definitions, you're done. Sorry to say it, but also offering a drug test is ridiculous, because they are easy to beat.
The definition here on getbig for natural means "no use of hormones for a lifetime", if you have used even once, you are "clean" when you are off roids. The definiton of these "natural" organizations are ridiculous anyways in my eyes, you can juice like a madman for 20 years, then come of for three and you are "natural" again.
Can you tell me how a guy with a juice history of 20 years can compare himself to someone that has never used anything in his life? It's impossible.
QFT
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What's starting to piss me off is that it has been mentioned now many many times that M1T and the likes ARE NOT ph.
They are steroids. You have taken steroids, even if you think you have not. Sorry, but that is a fact.
thank god,,another one who knows his bodybuildeing!
gh15 approved
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GH15 - I'm sorry you don't like me, I wish it was different. But I have not told a single lie, I have shared my diet, training, background information, etc...even put up a bet to take a drug test to appease you guys, all thats left is for you to move in with me, and I doubt that will go well with my wife LOL!
Aside from the Pro-hormones I've mentioned, I have never used steroids, or GH, or anything of the sort! Again, this is never going to be proven from your side or from my side, it will continue to be a he said/she said type shit! So again, believe whatever you want! I start contest prep in a few weeks and will be sharing all my pics and program with everyone!
I dunno how everyone is, but the persona I present up here on the board is EXACTLY how I am in real life, so I'm sorry you have this misconception of me, but this is the truth. Again though, if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want! 8)
I think you're clean dude, you don't look very big and don't have the pumped fullness of someone on a ton of gear..
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/CRAB1MAIN.jpg)
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I think you're clean dude, you don't look very big and don't have the pumped fullness of someone on a ton of gear..
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/CRAB1MAIN.jpg)
After that pic, I say he's on.
It's obvious ALL his money is going to hormones or else his teeth/gums would be fixed by now.
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After that pic, I say he's on.
It's obvious ALL his money is going to hormones or else his teeth/gums would be fixed by now.
LOL funny because I only weighed 170 lbs in that picture (at 6 feet) - wowww I'm a juicing giant ::) lolll
LOL, once you start with the definitions, you're done. Sorry to say it, but also offering a drug test is ridiculous, because they are easy to beat.
The definition here on getbig for natural means "no use of hormones for a lifetime", if you have used even once, you are "clean" when you are off roids. The definiton of these "natural" organizations are ridiculous anyways in my eyes, you can juice like a madman for 20 years, then come of for three and you are "natural" again.
Can you tell me how a guy with a juice history of 20 years can compare himself to someone that has never used anything in his life? It's impossible.
LOL - call me clean, call me natural, call me jucing, I really don't care what you call me - honestly.... because its all true in one definition or the other...
call me a person who injected test, took dbol, GH etc, then you are grossly misinformed and incorrect!
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LOL funny because I only weighed 170 lbs in that picture (at 6 feet) - wowww I'm a juicing giant ::) lolll
LOL - call me clean, call me natural, call me jucing, I really don't care what you call me - honestly.... because its all true in one definition or the other...
call me a person who injected test, took dbol, GH etc, then you are grossly misinformed and incorrect!
Well, by gh15 standards, "natural" means 500mg test, superdrol, M1T, HGH, clen, ECA, T3 so you MIGHT be natural. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think you're clean dude, you don't look very big and don't have the pumped fullness of someone on a ton of gear..
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/CRAB1MAIN.jpg)
M1T is one of the most powerful oral steroids around. This dude is a steroid user.
Hope that helps.
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LOL funny because I only weighed 170 lbs in that picture (at 6 feet) - wowww I'm a juicing giant ::) lolll
LOL - call me clean, call me natural, call me jucing, I really don't care what you call me - honestly.... because its all true in one definition or the other...
call me a person who injected test, took dbol, GH etc, then you are grossly misinformed and incorrect!
The only thing left Is to send bay a pic of your nuts, he can check it for ball shrinkage. :-X
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M1T is one of the most powerful oral steroids around. This dude is a steroid user.
Hope that helps.
M1T is not a steroid, it's a shitty prohormone, hope this helps
yes I know it's technically methylated test and bla bla bla, either way it's a shitty prohormone and not the real thing.
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M1T is not a steroid, it's a shitty prohormone, hope this helps
yes I know it's technically methylated test and bla bla bla, either way it's a shitty prohormone and not the real thing.
Sorry, but normally you don't write bullshit like this.
M1T is an oral steroid, no less. It doesn't have to convert, it is active.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235648;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235649;image)
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Sorry, but normally you don't write bullshit like this.
M1T is an oral steroid, no less. It doesn't have to convert, it is active.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235648;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235649;image)
What do those numbers mean?
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What do those numbers mean?
It's how anabolic and how androgen these steroids are, and the figure on the right gives the ratio.
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sum prohormones were every bit as good as regular roids period!!!
very strong so you cannot say u have not taken steriods and the tests are rediculasly easy to pass even full ON!!..
ur very little and dont look juiced but u already admited u did do them end of story really
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Look at Ach's pics then look at his buddy Doug Millers and hell even dougs manbeast of a wife... there is a vid of her doing walking lunges with 85lbs dumbbells and with a DEEP voice... LOL i honestly think Ach is telling the truth.
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Guys, no need to talk about the guy's wife! Plus she DEFINITELY does not have a deep voice, I know them both very well, and I do believe they are natural, bodybuilding is their life, Doug especially, takes his shit VERY seriously!
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Guys, no need to talk about the guy's wife! Plus she DEFINITELY does not have a deep voice, I know them both very well, and I do believe they are natural, bodybuilding is their life, Doug especially, takes his shit VERY seriously!
LOL she's a manbeast, and the only reason you are nice to her is because u are scared she will rape you. ADMIT IT!
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sum prohormones were every bit as good as regular roids period!!!
very strong so you cannot say u have not taken steriods and the tests are rediculasly easy to pass even full ON!!..
ur very little and dont look juiced but u already admited u did do them end of story really
halodrol is steroid equivelent to anavar and turinabol
superdrol is better than dbol by a lot! AND blow you up dry ,,its a steroid and strogest one out there to a point dealer afraid to sell it now because of health problems,,strongest steroid available
there are many more,,but on cycle of halodrol by itself the average fella will gain 10-15 pretty dry lbs,,big big difference including moon face first couple weeks ,,trust me you know its steroid ,,and its everywhee for any kido to buy includign all the wanna be naturals on internet
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so its settled Big Arch is not natural! in fact, hes a superdrol junkie.
End thread.
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Sorry, but normally you don't write bullshit like this.
M1T is an oral steroid, no less. It doesn't have to convert, it is active.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235648;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157343.0;attach=235649;image)
I know it is, I just can't stand to face it :( I've already stated it's methylated test... it's just hard for me to come to terms with this since I see stupid high school kids in the gyms taking this shit and getting all the side effects without all the gains, it's the equivalent of dbol
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so its settled Big Arch is not natural! in fact, hes a superdrol junkie.
End thread.
oh no ,,arche is too pussy to use superdrol ,,he woudl use something like halodrol because no side effect only minor headaches that go away fast,, so halodrol is what used by the girly men in bodybuilding,,but rest assure that girly men drug give results that in many times look better than dianabol,,
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oh no ,,arche is too pussy to use superdrol ,,he woudl use something like halodrol because no side effect only minor headaches that go away fast,, so halodrol is what used by the girly men in bodybuilding,,but rest assure that girly men drug give results that in many times look better than dianabol,,
gh15 approved
LOL - I haven't ever used Halodrol...
Only used the original Andro poppers back in the day, and M1-T
That's it! END THREAD! Now lets just let it die!
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I don't care if he's on or not. but if he claims he's not, Why the semi visor and seemingly endless amounts of money? :-\