Do you think Big Ach is natural?

[cyp200la]

damn 13 pages lmao ..... hes natural

[Deicide]

leave him to ramble and talk doo doo
I have nothing against him personally but he is such a jealous individual
when I see people post pics and clips on here it's always an inspiration
because I know they have the same love of lifting like I do and their trying to build a better body
sev is a hater anyone that he thinks looks better than him must be a juicer....
He is a loser in that respect he has jealous emotions like a female

You don't get it, do you? It's not inspiring if it's not possible to achieve. I (and many others) will never have your build, sure it's inspiring for you, you look at a weight and grow. 

[Deicide]

a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)

On peut atteindre cela que avec une genetique superieure que la plupart de nous n'a pas.

[affeman]

You don't get it, do you? It's not inspiring if it's not possible to achieve. I (and many others) will never have your build, sure it's inspiring for you, you look at a weight and grow. 

Where are the pics of Mesomorph?

[Deicide]

Where are the pics of Mesomorph?

All over the place...I don't save pics, so you'll have to ask.

Der ist sowieso Schwarzer, also...

[Cleanest Natural]

haha

coltrane .. you are as natural as a cock in a man's rectum

[Meso_z]

a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)

I have my doubts.

[affeman]

This guy actually claimed natural?

[Deicide]

This guy actually claimed natural?

He's black. Very possible.

[affeman]

He's black. Very possible.

lol

[Cleanest Natural]

lol

ask deicide to post a pic ..you will laugh even harder

[Deicide]

ask deicide to post a pic ..you will laugh even harder

Huh? I have some of the worst genetics on the board. There would be no point.

The question here is if someone with superior genetics can achieve a build like mesomorph's.

It's certainly possible.

[Cleanest Natural]

Huh? I have some of the worst genetics on the board. There would be no point.

The question here is if someone with superior genetics can achieve a build like mesomorph's.

It's certainly possible.

you must be completely clueless

[mesmorph78]

Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters


im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...

[WillGrant]

a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)

I think you are using AAS or one or more of the over the counter "pro steroids"  but if you are not then you have very very good genetics

[Deicide]

Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters


im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...

Genetics=everything

I believe you are natural. The point I am making is just that it doesn't motivate me because I am never going to look like that. Training is only fun if you make progress.

[Deicide]

I think you are using AAS or one or more of the over the counter "pro steroids"  but if you are not then you have very very good genetics

THG approved

[affeman]

Wow 5 years sevaste and your still obsessing over me....
for the record affeman thats old im a lot bigger now
at least the loser sevaste has posted material up his pics and his training material
your some faceless internet troll not that it matters


im very natural... i dont even eat like a bber
i only train like a bber
so because i might look a certain way and i train fucking hard i deserve to be ridiculed and accused of shit
some of you guys are such shit stains...
geez haters ... any one with a better build or better genetics takes drugs...
sad.... like ive said before d probably 5% of people here actually train
the rest just come here to dicredit and put down others ....effing losers
ive worked FUCKIng hard for years even though i diont really have to but i enjoy training
i hope the stuff i put up motivate people on here who actually like to train
the rest of you trolls who only come on here to chat shit can fuck off...

 

[BIG ACH]

a good NATTY physique:
(something sev can't attain even WITH gear)

Thats not a good natty physique....


Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!!  Seriously...  hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man!   You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL


How long have you been training?  What about competition bro?

[Deicide]

Thats not a good natty physique....


Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!!  Seriously...  hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man!   You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL


How long have you been training?  What about competition bro? Damn you have good genetics!

Fixed

[affeman]

Thats not a good natty physique....


Thats a FUCKING AWESOME nattie physique.... Respect bro!!!!  Seriously...  hell you look better than a lot of juicers I know man!   You need your own thread more than I do LOLLL


How long have you been training?  What about competition bro?

And that's my favourite part. A lying hypocrite giving another lying hypocrite propz to make his own stuff more credible. Widely spread on the boards.

[BIG ACH]

And that's my favourite part. A lying hypocrite giving another lying hypocrite propz to make his own stuff more credible. Widely spread on the boards.

Ok chief!  Whatever you say!

[mesmorph78]

decide.... i dont agree... everyone ive seen your picss and i dont think you have bad genetics at all.
when i started training i had 13 inch arms when i first stepped into the gym what I'm trying to stress is sometimes you have to woork effing hard to realise your genetic potential.
 I used to go to the gym at 7pm and stay there till closing time 10 pm just working arms yrs later ive put over 6+ inches on my arm no diet no 6 meals a day no drugs nothing just hard and i do mean hard training.  Can you say honestly that your traning hardI do all the excecises people hate to do . do you do heavy deadlifts weighted chins , weighted dips,squats and front squats
barbell rows heavy dumbell presses??? or do you just go into the gym like i see a lot of guys doing hit the pulldown machine for back cable rows , or for shoulders hit the shoulder press machine???
for me working out heavy and hard is a part of my life balance ... my primary goal isnt to get big , its to get stronger and enjoy the feeling of lifting weight this is something i will do till im dead , lot of guys only work out for summer.  To paraphrase genetics for hard training is not just physical its mental as well.
i dont have to train half as hard as i do BUt i do because i love it


coleman never had to train half as hard as he did but he had the best genetics and he trained the hardest.
 

[Deicide]

decide.... i dont agree... everyone ive seen your picss and i dont think you have bad genetics at all.
when i started training i had 13 inch arms when i first stepped into the gym what I'm trying to stress is sometimes you have to woork effing hard to realise your genetic potential.
 I used to go to the gym at 7pm and stay there till closing time 10 pm just working arms yrs later ive put over 6+ inches on my arm no diet no 6 meals a day no drugs nothing just hard and i do mean hard training.  Can you say honestly that your traning hardI do all the excecises people hate to do . do you do heavy deadlifts weighted chins , weighted dips,squats and front squats
barbell rows heavy dumbell presses??? or do you just go into the gym like i see a lot of guys doing hit the pulldown machine for back cable rows , or for shoulders hit the shoulder press machine???
for me working out heavy and hard is a part of my life balance ... my primary goal isnt to get big , its to get stronger and enjoy the feeling of lifting weight this is something i will do till im dead , lot of guys only work out for summer.  To paraphrase genetics for hard training is not just physical its mental as well.
i dont have to train half as hard as i do BUt i do because i love it


coleman never had to train half as hard as he did but he had the best genetics and he trained the hardest.
 

I have periodically trained my ass off. This year in fact for about half a year until I had a serious injury.

[mesmorph78]

it shouldnt be periodically it should be consistently so all the time...
I train hard all the time, i take maybe 3 weeks off a year max