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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on November 04, 2010, 01:23:15 PM
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fucking beasts.
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Look like steroids
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5xVq37ZVO_Q/R8h0aFBIDKI/AAAAAAAAAPA/-HvyPUJcuvU/s320/dwarf.jpg)
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5xVq37ZVO_Q/R8h0aFBIDKI/AAAAAAAAAPA/-HvyPUJcuvU/s320/dwarf.jpg)
;D
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fucking beasts.
Who needs a lift shirt when you get a 200lb+ bounce off your chest. :o ;D
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5xVq37ZVO_Q/R8h0aFBIDKI/AAAAAAAAAPA/-HvyPUJcuvU/s320/dwarf.jpg)
That's not jaejonna.
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I'd love to see most bb'rs try remotely doing anything close to what Werner does in that first vid.
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Who needs a lift shirt when you get a 200lb+ bounce off your chest. :o ;D
Christian Cantwell is a monster:
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I'd love to see most bb'rs try remotely doing anything close to what Werner does in that first vid.
Chick summed up the gayness of bodybuilding when he said something like:
it's not how much you can lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
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thats not Brett
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An excellent thread, sir. These are athletes.
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An excellent thread, sir. These are athletes.
got to mix it up right?
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got to mix it up right?
Yup. Functional muscle that can be used for a variety of disciplines/situations in the real world.
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DO WE THINK A BODYBUILDER COULD BECOME A GOOD SHOT PUTTER?
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DO WE THINK A BODYBUILDER COULD BECOME A GOOD SHOT PUTTER?
Heck no. And lose the all caps. This isn't a political thread. ;D
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Functional strength there. I wonder how they would compare to powerlifters in certain lifts.
Women throwers on the other hand don't seem to be that good looking.
And if we go by this article http://www.brainwashable.com/sport/the-5-hottest-female-shot-putters-at-beijing/
these are the 5 hottest :o:
(http://www.brainwashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/valerie-vili.jpg)(http://www.brainwashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/nadzeya-ostapchuk.jpg)(http://www.brainwashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/li-meiju.jpg)(http://www.brainwashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rosa-chiara.jpg)(http://www.brainwashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/christina-schwanitz.jpg)
The only ones I found that look decent are these two (first one competes in heptathlon so she's not doing shot put only)
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/thumbnailfull/2008-8-15-8-39-37-d98e454486b44f4a8e2d842e61cb8ef3-b115bc41e22c4ab099b176f3b19adc59-2.jpg)(http://photo-media.daum-img.net/200903/07/yonhap/20090307045405719.jpg)
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Hepatitisalon. What a slut.
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I threw back in High School!
Sucked at Discus.... was O....K at Shot Putt
Bet those chicks ya'll posted would smoke me lolll
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They'll smoke it. Sluts.
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Last girl shottputter I dated used 'em as ben-wa balls.
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Last girl shottputter I dated used 'em as ben-wa balls.
Hi, Hawkins.
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Last girl shottputter I dated used 'em as ben-wa balls.
LOL :D
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Hi, Hawkins.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AkHeUaEva5k/RfNT5GUDbSI/AAAAAAAAA7w/1qXDdxH3x-U/s400/Apocalypse%2BNow%2BBrando%2Bthe%2Bhorror.jpg)
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Werner Gunter seemed pretty athletic for 6'7 282lbs.
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Clip #4. Frigging awesome! The great Randy Barnes...great. Great. Have his whole training tape it is quite the masterpiece!
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The Discus, Shotput, and Hammer Throwers of the 60's-80's were monsters, Strength levels the top of the elite level was at or just below the top Olympic lifters or Powerlifters of the time.
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The Discus, Shotput, and Hammer Throwers of the 60's-80's were monsters, Strength levels the top of the elite level was at or just below the top Olympic lifters or Powerlifters of the time.
old school
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It doesn't matter what sport you play. If you slam needles full of test and tren into your ass, and hit the wrights, you'll get pretty damn big.
A a male ballerina would get huge if they slam the drugs and shit the weights. It's not the sport they play that causes the growth.
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It doesn't matter what sport you play. If you slam needles full of test and tren into your ass, and hit the wrights, you'll get pretty damn big.
A a male ballerina would get huge if they slam the drugs and shit the weights. It's not the sport they play that causes the growth.
Throwing is a lot of technique too.
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Throwing is a lot of technique too.
Yeah for sure. Lots of the best MLB pitchers were just skinny but threw 100 mph.
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Yeah for sure. Lots of the best MLB pitchers were just skinny but threw 100 mph.
Very true. When I was a skinny twink was when I could throw a football the furtherest.....has more to do with shoulder flexibilty and being able to over-rotate....
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Check out the agility at 3:21
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Old School
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This guy was a beast. I met him a few times.
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Well - not a beast - but she is hot!
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its funny to see how openly roided the guys in the 70s and 80s were
they still are, but there is a lot more specificity involved, and the use isnt as excessive as in the 70s or 80s when no one was monitoring it
some of thos older dudes looked more like bosybuilders
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/83/images/Bev_Francis%20(17).jpg)
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its funny to see how openly roided the guys in the 70s and 80s were
they still are, but there is a lot more specificity involved, and the use isnt as excessive as in the 70s or 80s when no one was monitoring it
some of thos older dudes looked more like bosybuilders
That's one of the reasons why all of the Throwing World Records seem so out of reach to throwers of today.
Barnes was a massive roid freak.
Sedykh had amazing technique, but roid use in the USSR was big over there too.
The record in the discus also seems to be going nowhere anytime soon, and even some who got caught juicing in recent years cant match it.
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A lot of these guys have been busted.
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That's one of the reasons why all of the Throwing World Records seem so out of reach to throwers of today.
Barnes was a massive roid freak.
Sedykh had amazing technique, but roid use in the USSR was big over there too.
The record in the discus also seems to be going nowhere anytime soon, and even some who got caught juicing in recent years cant match it.
yeh, cause the fact is those older guys could take dbol and anadrol adn halotestin by the fucking handful.......right up to and through the day of the competition
guys today can take some designer shit, but its not as strong, and they cant take as much and, they have to watch the dose, and make sure they are able to mask it. and cut the shit out so many weeks prior to the competition
with all the modern limits in place, it makes sense that a lot of the records wont be broken
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It sucks because guys who are clean know there is never a chance of beating these records short of some revolutionary new technique being developed.
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they keep breaking the sprinting records though, which is pretty much the same thing
so maybe there is hope for the throwers
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they keep breaking the sprinting records though, which is pretty much the same thing
so maybe there is hope for the throwers
I don't know man - the major throwing records for shot, discus, and hammer are all over 25 years old.
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Look at the size of some of these guys.
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I don't know man - the major throwing records for shot, discus, and hammer are all over 25 years old.
is that right??
i didnt know it was that dramatic, that all the records are that old
what does that tell the people running the sport? usually it works the other way, records keep being broken........how do they rationalize it, do they think people had better thrrowing genetics a quarter century ago?
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is that right??
i didnt know it was that dramatic, that all the records are that old
what does that tell the people running the sport? usually it works the other way, records keep being broken........how do they rationalize it, do they think people had better thrrowing genetics a quarter century ago?
I threw in hs and college and was actually very good at the Hammer throw. I think the roids are a big issue coupled with the fact that its not like you can change technology to improve your throws whereas other events you can, like the pole vault, shows, track surface, etc etc.
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Look at the size of some of these guys.
that is REALLY bizarre........the guys in that video, have COMPLETELY different bodies then guys today
the guys today are big and somewhat athletic looking but,,,,,,,,, definitely chubby.........cause obviously in the absence of drugs that fat helps increase surface area, which increases power
but the old guy were tall, lean, super-men looking motherfuckers
very dramatic difference......with all the advancments in modern nutrition and training, i wonder how they rationalize that guys 30 years ago make todays guys look like fat children
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Alot of those guys lifted a lot more too. todays' guys do more plyo drills and crap like that.
i can only imagine how far Adam Nelson would throw if he had the roid regime these guys took.
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Even though few today can measure up to what Udo Beyer, Günther Werner and Brian Oldfield did for obvious reason, they still does amazing things in the gym.
Here's Tero Pitkamaki benching 170 kilos.
Andreas Thorkildsen current number one javelin thrower:
Speaking of Brian Oldfield... This clip always gets me fired up before training...
Tragically, these days he's apparently wheel chair bound from what I've heard.
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that is REALLY bizarre........the guys in that video, have COMPLETELY different bodies then guys today
the guys today are big and somewhat athletic looking but,,,,,,,,, definitely chubby.........cause obviously in the absence of drugs that fat helps increase surface area, which increases power
but the old guy were tall, lean, super-men looking motherfuckers
very dramatic difference......with all the advancments in modern nutrition and training, i wonder how they rationalize that guys 30 years ago make todays guys look like fat children
There's a reason that eras such as the one you are referring to are often called "golden". In your own way, you've nailed it. Well done.
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It sucks because guys who are clean know there is never a chance of beating these records short of some revolutionary new technique being developed.
HAHAH
What are you talking man?
Claiming some of these athletes for example in Olympics are clean is same as claiming that somebody could step up on Mr. O -stage clean.
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HAHAH
What are you talking man?
Claiming some of these athletes for example in Olympics are clean is same as claiming that somebody could step up on Mr. O -stage clean.
I don't think Adam Nelson or Resse hoffa are big juicers TBH. In thwe past - maybe - but watching them over their careeers - I really dont know.
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Shot put Progression 23.12 m Randy Barnes United States 20 May 1990 Jack in the Box Invitational Westwood, United States [14] [23]
Discus throw 74.08 m Jürgen Schult East Germany 6 June 1986 Neubrandenburg, East Germany [24]
Hammer throw Progression 86.74 m Yuriy Sedykh Soviet Union 30 August 1986 European Championships Stuttgart, Germany [25]
Javelin Progression 98.48 m
(Current design) Jan Železný Czech Republic 25 May 1996 Jena, Germany [26]
104.80 m
(old design) Uwe Hohn East Germany 20 July 1984 East Berlin, East Germany [27]
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These guys came close in the Hammer but were both busted for roids too.
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These guys came close in the Hammer but were both busted for roids too.
its funny how that video call them "fallen champs" and marion jones is a "fallen champ"........and thats their label forever
but everyone else, and i do mean EVERYONE ELSE................who used PED's right along side of them, but happened to not get caught, or happened to compete before they started careing to test anyone.................. .are called heroes
if your competed earlier, your a fucking HERO.........but a few years later., your scum of the earth
we really are a dumb society
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HAHAH
What are you talking man?
Claiming some of these athletes for example in Olympics are clean is same as claiming that somebody could step up on Mr. O -stage clean.
The testing done in Track and field on an INTERNATIONAL level is pretty stringent.
So I think it's safe to assume that when they compete in the Grand Prix's, they're clean
It really boils down to if the respective national track and field/Olympic organisation is actively testing their athletes when they're at home in the off season.
Some athletes are also famous/notorious for ditching the Grand Prix's, staying away training for only the big championships.
Eg, the Greek sprinters Thanou and Kenteris who both got busted in the end.
IMO, at least USA, Germany, UK, a few of the Scandinavian countries, et al, have fairly solid testing.
Some other countries don't have the same programs.
Eg, in Weightlifting, the recent phenom Pat Mendes is going to compete for Brazil instead of USA.
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I don't think Nelson or hoffa are big juicers. Cantwell just seems like a huge bear, same as the guy from poland
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Yep, testing for sure is pretty strict.
But one thing amazes me here. It is that nobody on this board believes that significant muscle mass can be built naturally but at least few are ready to believe that man can shot put over 21 meters without drugs...
This must be because everybody here has tried to build muscle and found out it ain't necessarily that easy but not too many have seriously trained to throw some object as far as possible...
Dunno. It was also believed some years ago that in skiing there is not much drugs involved and testing was also regular and well supervised. It all broke down in 2001 if I remember correctly when Finnish skiing team get caught from systematic, wide-spread doping. So who knows what is going on in track n' field....
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Yep, testing for sure is pretty strict.
But one thing amazes me here. It is that nobody on this board believes that significant muscle mass can be built naturally but at least few are ready to believe that man can shot put over 21 meters without drugs...
This must be because everybody here has tried to build muscle and found out it ain't necessarily that easy but not too many have seriously trained to throw some object as far as possible...
Dunno. It was also believed some years ago that in skiing there is not much drugs involved and testing was also regular and well supervised. It all broke down in 2001 if I remember correctly when Finnish skiing team get caught from systematic, wide-spread doping. So who knows what is going on in track n' field....
My belief on the american throwers not being big juicers is to look at their physiques vs the guys from the 80's and early 90's for which i have posted videos.
Its not like the guys now dont lift a lot, they do, but also seem to carry around more fat.
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why would downhill skiers need to use juice
isnt it an agility thing, their propulsion is the mountain
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Bear Strength
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Man, that was brutal :o :o ;D
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The Gunthör stuff is cool.
I remember stumbling upon it on accident and watching all parts... I was impressed with the agility and strength.
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The Gunthör stuff is cool.
I remember stumbling upon it on accident and watching all parts... I was impressed with the agility and strength.
That dude was a real monster. Looks like a Tight End or Line Backer in the NFL, but I think he weighted 280 or something like that. .
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Another thing that has changed in the last few years is that brute strength isn't as important as it once was. The guys are still brutally strong, but more effort is put into event training now.
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Another thing that has changed in the last few years is that brute strength isn't as important as it once was. The guys are still brutally strong, but more effort is put into event training now.
you mean as in more specificity? like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?
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you mean as in more specificity? like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?
True - but is Nelson and Hoffa were big juicers they would definately not look like that.
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you mean as in more specificity? like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?
Yes, it's moving more to a "if you want to get good at xyz, then practice xyz" type thing. Much more focus is put on training for the actual sport now.
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nice videos, I was a pole vaulter. I miss those days.
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psycho trainee. what's unusual is it actually worked for him. constitution of a horse!
Might not look it but he was listed at 6'6" , 309 lbs
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Damn - having been around Throwers most of my life - most of these guys have real animal strength.
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being as tall as these fellow athletes i can attest for aiming to be the heaviest you be as possible is key to strenght, and no so much worrying about training splits but simply eating to be stronger
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being as tall as these fellow athletes i can attest for aiming to be the heaviest you be as possible is key to strenght, and no so much worrying about training splits but simply eating to be stronger
Its also a lot of technique.
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Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a 4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
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Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a 4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
You need to edit yourself for wind length, Vince. ;)
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I thinkthe Hammer throw is the hardest of all to master.
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Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a 4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
Im thinking i will throw my 5 pound plate in the woods soon then measure it off and to see if i can throw it 10 feet
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The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand.
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The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand.
Is it heavier in your hand than out of it?
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Is it heavier in your hand than out of it?
ITS VERY CONCENTRATED
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Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a 4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
The world record at the time was I think 243 or so. Far from 300 feet. I was just getting the spin down before moving to LA. It was by far the hardest part. I was 293 and my goal was to weigh 275. I felt at that weight I could increase my speed alot and have better balance. I had video camera which I played back and forth some discus thowers I taped from the TV at some college track meet and watched that while I was training. My thing was to concentrate on technique first. I did my strength throwing by standing on one end of the field and throwing all my discus's standing facing forward and using just hip rotation and knee bend. I knew distance woudl come from the explosiveness from my hips and arms speed. Also, getting the angle of release is super important. I aslo knew being only 6'1" I would be about the shortest guy and that extra hegiht meant alot more torque.
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The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand.
What was very discouraging about the shot putt was I trained at the Y then. EVeryday I went I would have to walk by the window that looked over the pool. The pool was 75' in length. That was the world record at the time for the discus. When I saw how far that was everyday and saw how bad my distance was I knew I could no way come close to that. I was barely getting 50' on a few times. I was hanign around 42' to 45'. I just could not get it. So I stopped and concentrated on the discus.
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What was very discouraging about the shot putt was I trained at the Y then. EVeryday I went I would have to walk by the window that looked over the pool. The pool was 75' in length. That was the world record at the time for the discus. When I saw how far that was everyday and saw how bad my distance was I knew I could no way come close to that. I was barely getting 50' on a few times. I was hanign around 42' to 45'. I just could not get it. So I stopped and concentrated on the discus.
Check out the shirt.