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Report: White House altered drilling safety report
By DINA CAPPIELLO
The Associated Press
www.washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, November 10, 2010; 11:11 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The Interior Department's inspector general says the White House edited a drilling safety report in a way that made it falsely appear that scientists and experts supported the idea of the administration's six-month ban on new drilling.
The inspector general says the editing changes resulted "in the implication that the moratorium recommendation had been peer reviewed." But it hadn't been. The scientists were only asked to review new safety measures for offshore drilling.
"There was no intent to mislead the public," said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who also recommended in the May 27 safety report that a moratorium be placed on deepwater oil and gas exploration. "The decision to impose a temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling was made by the secretary, following consultation with colleagues including the White House."
The Interior Department, after one of the reviewers complained about the inference, promptly issued an apology to the reviewers during a conference call, with a letter and personal meeting in June.
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Louisiana Sen. David Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
But Louisiana Rep. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, said in a statement that the investigation proved "that the blanket drilling moratorium was driven by a politics and not by science."
"Candidate Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," Cassidy said. Cassidy said if that were true thousands of jobs and billions in economic activity would have been preserved on the Gulf coast.
The Web site Politico was first to report the inspector general's findings. The Associated Press on Wednesday obtained a copy of the report, which has not been publicly released.
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WTF?
HOPE & CHANGE BITCHES!
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Just so no one accuses me of making shit up.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/10/AR2010111002553.html?hpid=moreheadlines
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"Candidate Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," Cassidy said. Cassidy said if that were true thousands of jobs and billions in economic activity would have been preserved on the Gulf coast.
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When obama does it - TEAM KNEEPAD applauds.
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I can't wait for the 240 spin on this.
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Report: White House altered drilling safety report
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By DINA CAPPIELLO, Associated Press Dina Cappiello, Associated Press – 1 hr 26 mins ago
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WASHINGTON – The Interior Department's inspector general says the White House edited a drilling safety report in a way that made it falsely appear that scientists and experts supported the administration's six-month ban on new drilling.
The inspector general says the editing changes resulted "in the implication that the moratorium recommendation had been peer reviewed." But it hadn't been. The scientists were only asked to review new safety measures for offshore drilling.
The investigation is the latest in a string of incidents where the Obama administration has been accused of overstating the science behind official reports and political decisions made after the massive Gulf oil spill. In the wake of the April 20 disaster, the administration struggled to portray that it — not BP — was in charge of responding to the blowout, which killed 11 and spewed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf.
Last month, staff for the presidential oil spill commission said that the White House's budget office delayed publication of a report by federal scientists that forecast how much oil could potentially reach the Gulf's shores. Federal scientists initially used a volume of oil that did not account for the administration's various cleanup efforts. A smaller volume was ultimately presented.
The same report said that President Barack Obama's energy adviser, Carol Browner, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration head Jane Lubchenco contributed to the public's perception that a government report on where the oil had gone was more exact than it was by emphasizing peer review. Browner, the commission's staff said, also mischaracterized the analysis on national TV, saying it showed most of the oil was "gone." The report said it could still be there.
The IG report says Browner's staff could have implied scientists had endorsed the moratorium, by moving up a reference to peer review in the drilling safety report. Steve Black, an adviser for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar who reviewed the final version of the text from the White House at 2 or 3 a.m. the day it was released, said he did not have any issues with the changes.
"There was no intent to mislead the public," said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Salazar, who also recommended in the May 27 safety report that a moratorium be placed on deepwater oil and gas exploration. "The decision to impose a temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling was made by the secretary, following consultation with colleagues including the White House."
The Interior Department, after one of the reviewers complained about the inference, promptly issued an apology during a conference call, with a letter and personal meeting in June.
At least eight of the 15 experts asked to review the Interior Department's work expressed concern about the change made by the White House, saying that it differed in important ways from the draft they had signed off on. But the experts also questioned the basis for the drilling ban.
"We believe the report does not justify the moratorium as written and that the moratorium as changed will not contribute measurably to increased safety and will have immediate and long-term economic effects," the scientists wrote in a fax sent to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, and Louisiana Sens. Mary Landrieu and David Vitter, earlier this year. "The secretary should be free to recommend whatever he thinks is correct, but he should not be free to use our names to justify his political decisions."
A federal judge in New Orleans struck down the Interior Department's first moratorium in June, saying the government didn't justify it. U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman also ruled that the department improperly issued safety rules because it issued them without soliciting public comment.
Jindal, in a statement released Wednesday, said the Obama administration should have listened to the experts who backed specific steps to improve oversight and safety of offshore drilling.
"Instead, the Obama administration issued an arbitrary and capricious moratorium...which has threatened the livelihoods of thousands of Americans," Jindal said.
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations, and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
The report also says the engineer that levied the concerns accepted Salazar's explanation that the language was a mistake rather than an intentional attempt to use the peer-reviewers' names to justify a political decision.
The conclusion, however, did little to assuage Gulf Coast lawmakers, and will likely fuel Republicans taking over the House next year to push for further inquiries into administration decisions following the oil spill.
Vitter said the Obama administration appears to have "deliberately violated" a law that sets government-wide procedures to ensure the integrity of information put out by federal agencies. "This report reveals exactly what I suspected all along," he said. "I wanted to make sure that the federal government was basing policy decisions that would directly impact so many Louisianians on science — not politics. Unfortunately, this report reveals the contrary."
Louisiana Rep. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, agreed.
"Candidate Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," he said.
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OBAMA LIED - JOBS IN THE GULF DIED.
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Chirp, chirp from the far-left brigade.
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Chirp, chirp from the far-left brigade.
BF - you , others, myself, all said this was crazy at the time remember?
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BF - you , others, myself, all said this was crazy at the time remember?
Yup. And I remember 240 pissing and moaning about how he didn't want another spill and all that other jazz. Anyone with a brain knew it was bullshit from day one.
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Yup. And I remember 240 pissing and moaning about how he didn't want another spill and all that other jazz. Anyone with a brain knew it was bullshit from day one.
Yeah, I am going to keep bumping this until he, KC, Danny, and the rest of TEAM KNEEPAD responds.
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Even TEAM KNEEPAD is upset over this latest act of deception.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/10/white-house-altered-offsh_n_781537.html#comments
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White House edits stain its reliance on science
Nov 10 05:50 PM US/Eastern
By DINA CAPPIELLO
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - The oil spill that damaged the Gulf of Mexico's reefs and wetlands is also threatening to stain the Obama administration's reputation for relying on science to guide policy.
Academics, environmentalists and federal investigators have accused the administration since the April spill of downplaying scientific findings, misrepresenting data and most recently misconstruing the opinions of experts it solicited.
Meanwhile, the owner of the rig that exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, Transocean Ltd., is renewing its argument that federal investigators are in danger of allowing the blowout preventer, a key piece of evidence, to corrode as it awaits forensic analysis. Testing had not begun as of last week, the company says, some two months after it was raised from the seafloor.
The blowout preventer could be a key piece of evidence in lawsuits filed by victims, survivors and others. Transocean was responsible for maintaining it while it was being used on BP's well. Investigators agreed to flush the control pods with fluid on Sept. 27 to prevent corrosion. But a Transocean lawyer wrote in his Nov. 3 letter that there have been no further preservation steps on the blowout preventer since then.
The latest complaint from scientists comes in a report by the Interior Department's inspector general, which concluded that the White House edited a drilling safety report in a way that made it falsely appear that scientists and experts supported the administration's six-month ban on new deep-water drilling. The AP obtained the report early Wednesday.
The inspector general said the editing changes by the White House resulted "in the implication that the moratorium recommendation had been peer reviewed." But it hadn't been. Outside scientists were asked only to review new safety measures for offshore drilling.
"There are really only a few people that know what they are talking about" on offshore drilling," said Ford Brett, managing director of Petroskills, a Tulsa, Okla.-based petroleum training organization. "The people who make this policy do not ... so don't misrepresent me and use me for cover," said Brett, one of seven experts who reviewed the report.
Last month, staff for the presidential oil spill commission said that the White House's budget office delayed publication of a scientific report that forecast how much oil could reach the Gulf's shores. Federal scientists initially used a volume of oil that did not account for the administration's various cleanup efforts, but the government ultimately cited smaller amounts of oil.
The same report said that President Barack Obama's energy adviser, Carol Browner, mischaracterized on national TV a government analysis about where the oil went, saying it showed most of the oil was "gone." The report said it could still be there. It also said that Browner and the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Jane Lubchenco, contributed to the public's perception the report was more exact than it was by emphasizing peer review.
The new inspector general report said Browner's staff implied that scientists had endorsed the drilling moratorium, by raising a reference to peer review in the drilling safety report. At least one outside expert who was involved said he was convinced afterward that it wasn't a deliberate deception, and Interior Department officials told the inspector general they didn't deliberately make changes to cause confusion.
"There was no intent to mislead the public," said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who also recommended in the May 27 safety report that a moratorium be placed on deep-water oil and gas exploration. "The decision to impose a temporary moratorium on deep-water drilling was made by the secretary, following consultation with colleagues including the White House."
After one of the reviewers complained, the Interior Department promptly issued an apology during a conference call, in a formal letter and during a personal meeting in June.
All seven experts asked to review the Interior Department's work expressed concern about the change made by the White House, saying that it differed in important ways from the draft they had approved.
"We believe the report does not justify the moratorium as written, and that the moratorium as changed will not contribute measurably to increased safety and will have immediate and long-term economic effects," the scientists wrote earlier this year to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Sens. Mary Landrieu and David Vitter. "The secretary should be free to recommend whatever he thinks is correct, but he should not be free to use our names to justify his political decisions."
Those complaints were similar to those of other scientists.
"Their estimates always seemed to be biased to the best case," said Joseph Montoya, a biology professor at Georgia Tech. "A number of scientists have experienced a strong push back."
The inspector general's report said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved of the moratorium and because the department publicly clarified what the experts said and had offered a formal apology.
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Associated Press writers Seth Borenstein in Washington and Harry R. Weber in New Orleans contributed reporting.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Even TEAM KNEEPAD is upset over this latest act of deception.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/10/white-house-altered-offsh_n_781537.html#comments
I think this post from HP sums it up nicely.
"Liberals will never admit they are wrong. They would rather go down with the ship and die then to admit a mistake and jump overboard to a waiting life raft. "
Where's kool-aid and the gang to spin this?
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notice the silence on this?
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notice the silence on this?
Quite deafening indeed.
I'm sure 240 is desperately trying to find a way to post a reply that allows him to mention Sarah Palin, give Barry a typographical blowjob, and end with the sentence "It's all about the issues, baby!!" or "But TARP was okay, right??"
It might take some time on this one though....
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All seven experts asked to review the Interior Department's work expressed concern about the change made by the White House, saying that it differed in important ways from the draft they had approved.
"We believe the report does not justify the moratorium as written, and that the moratorium as changed will not contribute measurably to increased safety and will have immediate and long-term economic effects," the scientists wrote earlier this year to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Sens. Mary Landrieu and David Vitter. "The secretary should be free to recommend whatever he thinks is correct, but he should not be free to use our names to justify his political decisions."
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Ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jindal hammers Obama in new book
By: Jonathan Martin
November 12, 2010 12:15 AM EST
www.politico.com
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NEW ORLEANS — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal uses a new book to portray President Barack Obama as disconnected from the Gulf oil spill, charging that he was more focused on the political aftermath than the actual impact of the crisis.
Jindal recounts a pair of private conversations with the president that paint him as consumed with how his actions were being perceived.
On Obama’s first trip to Louisiana after the disaster, the governor describes how the president took him aside on the tarmac after arriving to complain about a letter that Jindal had sent to the administration requesting authorization for food stamps for those who had lost their jobs because of the spill.
As Jindal describes it, the letter was entirely routine, yet Obama was angry and concerned about looking bad.
"Careful," he quotes the president as warning him, "this is going to get bad for everyone."
Nearby on the tarmac, Jindal recalls, then-White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel was chewing out his own chief of staff, Timmy Teepell.
“If you have a problem pick up the f——n’ phone,” Jindal quotes Emanuel telling Teepell.
The governor asserts that the White House had tipped off reporters to watch the exchange on the New Orleans tarmac that Sunday in May and deemed it a “press stunt” that symbolized what’s wrong with Washington.
“Political posturing becomes more important than reality,” he writes.
And after Obama instituted a moratorium on offshore drilling, Jindal recounts that the president dismissed his concerns about the economic impact of the ban.
“I understand you need to say all of this, I know you need to say this, that you are facing political pressure,” Jindal quotes Obama telling him. When the governor said he was concerned about people losing their jobs, he said the president cited national polls showing that people supported the ban.
“The human element seemed invisible to the White House,” he writes.
Asked to respond to Jindal's assertions, Obama aides didn’t directly address either conversation but pointed to the president’s overall response to the spill.
“From Day One, President Obama has directed his administration to work with state and local governments to respond to and help Gulf communities recover from the BP oil spill,” said White House spokesman Adam Abrams. “The administration’s response was the largest response to an environmental disaster in our nation’s history and included not just nutrition assistance but also over 40,000 workers, ongoing efforts in science and seafood safety, the Mabus report for long-term Gulf recovery and the creation of the BP $20 billion fund for Gulf families and businesses.”
Jindal has criticized the administration in the past over the spill, but that he would do so at the outset of his book suggests he wants to raise his national profile — and perhaps seek national office.
In an interview with POLITICO prior to the book’s release, the governor argued that Obama’s response to the disaster was a metaphor for what he described as the administration’s more fundamental problem.
“They’re not connected to reality on the ground,” he said.
The book, titled “Leadership and Crisis,” amounts to a national introduction for the 39-year-old first-term governor. While a familiar figure to political insiders — largely for his Indian-American heritage, sterling résumé and a regrettable State of the Union response last year — Jindal is largely undefined with the broader voting public.
After losing his first bid for the governorship in 2003 and then serving two terms in Congress, Jindal has enjoyed wide popularity since winning the governor's mansion in his native Baton Rouge in 2007.
He’s passed tax cuts and historic ethics reforms in the notoriously corrupt state and won accolades for his administration's responses to hurricanes and the oil spill.
But he faces a looming $1.5 billion budget deficit, and his proposed cuts to higher education this week brought hundreds of protesters to the state Capitol.
Louisiana’s fiscal straits and his refusal to raise taxes to avoid the education cuts have increased local speculation that Jindal, who has already held an array of political jobs in his short career, is eyeing an exit.
But in the interview, he indicated he was staying put.
Asked if he’d ever want to be president, Jindal recited his stock answer — “I’ve got the best job I will ever have.”
Pressed on whether he had any desire to return to Washington, Jindal offered a flat “no.”
Plainly, though, he’s interested in joining the political conversation beyond his home state.
Jindal uses the 283-page tome to tell his only-in-America story as the son of immigrants growing up in a Southern university town, to tout his record in office and to lay out a roster of policy prescriptions and political reforms.
What’s striking about the book — and what illustrates the degree to which it’s aimed at raising his profile among grass-roots conservatives — is the harshness of his attacks on Democrats, the media, elites and the political establishment in Washington.
Such broadsides are, of course, standard fare for aspiring Republicans. But they don’t necessarily square with the image Jindal has carved out in Louisiana as a get-it-done, wonky reformer more interested in ideas and solutions than in lobbing bombs across the aisle.
In addition to the shots he takes at Obama, Jindal also recounts anecdotes that depict reporters as out-of-touch liberals, turns around the famous William F. Buckley line to claim he’d rather be governed “by the first one hundred names in the Baton Rouge, Louisiana, phone book than the faculty of Harvard University” and approvingly cites the old saw that “dumb people need representation too ... and they surely have it in Washington.”
Jindal dismissed any notion that the pugnacious tone of his book was in conflict with his pragmatic brand.
“I have always been a principled conservative who doesn’t believe government is the answer to everything, but I am also somebody who is deeply interested in practical policy solutions,” he said. “I don’t care if they are Democratic or Republican ideas.”
But for some of the toughest language in his book, Jindal made no apologies — and was even feistier in person.
He writes that “the sad truth is that serving in Congress is now often an apprenticeship program for lobbyists-in-waiting” and likens the image of the former members reminiscing about their days in Congress with current members to “aging high school football players recalling their glory days on the field."
“These politicians-turned-lobbyists exploit their political access to cash in on what was supposed to be public service,” Jindal concludes.
Reminded that he served with former members of Congress from Louisiana whom he now suggests are exploiting their time in government, the governor allowed that former Republican congressmen like Jim McCrery and Richard Baker “served the state honorably.”
But Jindal also used the opportunity to broaden his indictment.
“There is almost this attitude among elected officials that [lobbying] is their deferred compensation,” he said. “I think their attitude is: Look, my buddies in law school are all making a lot more money than I did in private law firms, and I didn’t get to make that much money, and so this is my way of making up for all those lost earning years. To me that’s ridiculous. ... People should come back to their states, and people should go back to the private sector after they’re done in public service.”
The governor did, though, say in the interview that his party ought to be careful about not attacking political opponents personally. Having once been attacked for his own given Indian name, Jindal winced when reminded about those conservatives who mock Obama by referring to him as “Hussein,” his middle name.
“I think we can disagree with the president without being disagreeable,” he said. “Name-calling is not going to win elections or convince the American people."
Recalling some of the shots at President George W. Bush, Jindal added: “We didn’t like it when there was a Republican president, so we shouldn’t engage in that kind of activity when there is a Democratic president.”
The GOP, he said, should take the fight to the opposition based on ideas.
And there is no lack of them in his book.
Jindal joked that his advisers urged him to cut out some of the denser discourse on health care policy.
But he devotes an entire chapter to the topic, offering a list of what he calls “market-based health care reforms,” and another one on how to pay for Medicare. He also offers extended treatment on energy, tweaking those in his own party for their single-minded focus on oil exploration.
Conservatives, he writes, “need to do more than simply shout ‘Drill, baby, drill’ — we need to aggressively pursue the next generation of renewable and clean energy production technologies.”
Jindal also writes at length about cultural issues and national security. But, as made clear with his denunciation of Washington’s lobbyist culture, he’s as interested in reforming the political process as he is in addressing policy matters.
He proposes a “seven-step recovery program” for Congress that includes such perennials as a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution and a line-item veto but also argues for some newer ideas, such as requiring a supermajority to raise taxes and having the body become a part-time legislature.
Such notions, of course, would be most easily implemented if Jindal were president.
But as he gears up for his reelection next year, the governor dismissed the notion.
“This is not a campaign manifesto; this is not a platform,” he said of the book. “This is my contribution to help get our country to get back on track.”
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“I understand you need to say all of this, I know you need to say this, that you are facing political pressure,” Jindal quotes Obama telling him. When the governor said he was concerned about people losing their jobs, he said the president cited national polls showing that people supported the ban.
“The human element seemed invisible to the White House,” he writes.
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The silence of Blacken, 240, Benny and rest of TEAM KNEEPAD on this is telling.
But fuck - lets trash Palin - its not as if she just scored a direct hit on Obama/Bernake of the Fed Reserve issue this week, oh wait.
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Obama's economic view is rejected on world stage
New York Times ^ | November 11, 2010 | Sewell Chan, Sheryl Gay Stolberg and David E. Sanger
SEOUL, South Korea -- President Barack Obama's hopes of emerging from his Asia trip with the twin victories of a free-trade agreement with South Korea and a unified approach to spurring global economic growth ran into resistance on all fronts Thursday, putting Obama at odds with his key allies and largest trading partners.
The most concrete trophy expected to emerge from the trip eluded his grasp: a long-delayed free trade agreement with South Korea, first negotiated by the Bush administration and then reopened by Obama, to have greater protections for U.S. workers.
(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...
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New deepwater drilling permits: Zilch
Relief wells were drilled this summer to stop the BP spill, which led to a shut down in Gulf of Mexico deepwater drilling.
By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.comNovember 12, 2010: 9:14 AM ET
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- President Obama lifted his moratorium on deepwater oil drilling nearly a month ago, but the government still hasn't issued any new permits in the Gulf of Mexico.
And most analysts say permits will be slow in coming through 2011.
11Email Print CommentThe Interior Department halted deep water permits shortly after BP's Macondo well blew out last April. The accident resulted in the worst oil spill in U.S. history.
The moratorium was lifted in mid-October after government officials were confident new, stricter rules and regulations were in place.
But no new permits for wells covered under the ban have been issued, according to a spokeswoman for the Interior Department's Bureau of Ocean Energy Management Regulation and Enforcement.
"[BOEMRE director Michael] Bromwich has indicated that he hopes to see some approved by the end of the year but cannot speculate," the spokeswoman said in a statement.
Even if a few permits come through, analysts say it will be a far cry from the amount issued pre-spill.
"We're not holding our breath for a return to business as usual," Whitney Stanco, and energy analyst at the Washington Research Group, wrote in a recent research note. "Despite pressure from Gulf state lawmakers and the oil and gas industry, we believe permitting in 2011 will likely be slower than it has been in recent years."
The moratorium did not affect current oil production in the deepwater Gulf of Mexico, which comes from wells that have already been drilled. Currently, about a quarter of the nation's five-million-barrel-a-day crude output comes from the deepwater Gulf, according to the Government's Energy Information Administration.
But future output could fall if new wells aren't drilled. EIA predicts U.S. output will drop by about 170,000 barrels a day in 2011 thanks to the ban.
With Republicans taking over the House, it's possible that the generally more pro-drilling lawmakers will push the administration to issue more permits.
"You could see hearings in the first quarter of the year," said Kevin Shaw, an energy lawyer at the law firm Mayer Brown. "But it will just be a stick to beat the administration with. I'm not expecting a much different outcome."
0:00 /:59BP's rebound
Indeed, analysts say most lawmakers will be reluctant to push the Interior Department to issue permits faster than it thinks it can safely do so.
"What happened this summer was pretty dramatic," said Joseph Stanislaw, an independent energy adviser at Deloitte & Touche. "I think everyone agrees that people really need to work out the rules."
That's tough news to the people who do the actual drilling.
"What's going on over here is a whole lot of nothing," said Jim Noe, and executive at Hercules offshore, who said they are still having a hard time getting permits even for shallow water wells.
Noe said they haven't had to lay off too many people yet, and have kept workers busy doing maintenance work and other jobs. But the longer the permit drought continues, the harder it gets.
"We're not optimistic we'll be back in business in a meaningful way anytime soon," he said.
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Bump for 240 and Blacken :P :P :P :P :P :P
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BUMP for the libs.
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Can't say i agree with doctoring evidence or reports, but i still agree with the ban on offshore drilling. To me it has never been worth it. So in that respect i agree with the ban or moratorium.
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Can't say i agree with doctoring evidence or reports, but i still agree with the ban on offshore drilling. To me it has never been worth it. So in that respect i agree with the ban or moratorium.
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Had obama been honest on the SCIENCE of this, the ban would never have gone through or been supported.
He lied - and JOBS DIED!
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1) complete bullshit on their part.
2) unless you complained about the White house altering the EPA report proving air quality was terrible after 911 - you don't have any room to bitch here.
I bitched about the shady white house move on the 2001 action, and I bitch about the shady white house move in 2010 action. If you didn't complain about Bush doing it, ingest a penis now.
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1) complete bullshit on their part.
2) unless you complained about the White house altering the EPA report proving air quality was terrible after 911 - you don't have any room to bitch here.
I bitched about the shady white house move on the 2001 action, and I bitch about the shady white house move in 2010 action. If you didn't complain about Bush doing it, ingest a penis now.
If you don't bitch about Nixon doing it, ingest a dick now.
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If you don't bitch about Nixon doing it, ingest a dick now.
I wasn't born yet - but looking back, yeah, his ass belonged in jail for it.
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I wasn't born yet - but looking back, yeah, his ass belonged in jail for it.
So in 240's world - if you did not complain about the losses in Vietnam being covered up, you cant say boo now right? ::) ::)
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I wasn't born yet - but looking back, yeah, his ass belonged in jail for it.
Pierce was bad too.
But Fillmore was a lying fuckface before that.
Seriously though 240, a large part of the Democratic "MO" is scientific reasoning.....listening to what the "experts" have to say on a subject, and then using that to provide the greatest good to the greatest number of people.
That is one part of Liberalism an "anti-religious right" conservative like me can believe in.....listening to the advice of people who've devoted their entire life to a subject over what the bible or other arbitrary ideology has to say on the topic.
Bringing up "Bush did it too" is totally irrelevant IMO. The "assholes on the right" are supposed to ignore science to further their agenda. The left is supposed to use science over ideology to better serve the people.
If the left lets things like this slip by, then a major foundational principle of their base is pointless.
What is an independent athiest/scientist supposed to think after something like this?
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So in 240's world - if you did not complain about the losses in Vietnam being covered up, you cant say boo now right? ::) ::)
OH - I've bitched all about the bullshit gulf of tonken incident. A complete lie that our govt later admitted. and I dont care which party was in office.
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i didn't defend obama's actions. I was referring specifically to getbiggers who rolled their eyes at me 5 years ago when i complained the bush white house lied about the EPA report according to EPA whistleblowers.
Now, they're all upset.
Those are the ppl I dislike. Its no secret that the ppl in office are inherently evil, no matter the party.
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i didn't defend obama's actions. I was referring specifically to getbiggers who rolled their eyes at me 5 years ago when i complained the bush white house lied about the EPA report according to EPA whistleblowers.
Now, they're all upset.
Those are the ppl I dislike. Its no secret that the ppl in office are inherently evil, no matter the party.
So any "left leaning" empathy I have because they want to use "science" over "religion" should be dropped?
They're all going to lie, but at least the right is going to have to tax me less eventually (if they want to stay in office), right? At least I'll keep more of my money while they lie to me?
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This report cost thousands of jobs in the gulf...oh wait,thats Obamas intention in the first place.No surprise.
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This report cost thousands of jobs in the gulf...oh wait,thats Obamas intention in the first place.No surprise.
yup - and i have a running thrad on how obama is killing jobs by the day. too bad no one can refute it.
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Obama's lying energy czar must go
NY Post ^ | November 14, 2010 | Michelle Malkin
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Energy czar Carol Browner needs to go the way of disgraced green-jobs czar Van Jones: under the bus and stripped of her unbridled power to destroy jobs and lives in the name of saving the planet. ASAP.
One of the Beltway's most entrenched and unaccountable left-wing radicals, Browner has now been called out twice by President Obama's own federal BP oil-spill commission and Interior Department inspector general. How many strikes should she get?
Pushing the question should be a top priority of the new House GOP majority. Not least of all because Washington insiders are still buzzing about possible White House plans to increase her policy role and elevate her status.
First, the BP oil-spill panel dinged her for disseminating misleading information about the disaster's scope. In the spill's aftermath, she falsely claimed that 75 percent of the spill was "now completely gone from the system" and that the administration's August report on the disaster was "peer-reviewed." The false claim "contributed to public perception" of Browner's calculation as "more exact and complete" than it was ever designed to be, the oil-spill commission concluded in October.
This week, the Interior Department inspector general singled out Browner's office for butchering peer-reviewed scientists' conclusions in a key report about the administration's deepwater-drilling moratorium.
The scientists first blew the whistle on the administration's monkey business this summer. A federal judge sided with the scientists and blasted the Interior Department's big green lie that its moratorium was "peer-reviewed" and endorsed by "seven experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering."
As the court concluded:"Although the experts agreed with the safety recommendations contained in the body of the main Report, five of the National Academy experts and three of the other experts have publicly stated that they 'do not agree with the six month blanket moratorium'
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BP: U.S. hiding evidence on size of Gulf oil spill
Reuters ^ | March 30, 2012 | Jonathan Stempel
(Reuters) - BP Plc (BP.L) has accused the U.S. government of withholding evidence that may show the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill was smaller than federal officials claimed, a key issue in determining the oil company's liability.
A reduction in the size of the spill would lower the maximum civil fine BP could be forced to pay under the U.S. Clean Water Act, a sum now estimated as high as $17.6 billion.
The government is one of many plaintiffs suing BP over the April 20, 2010 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, which killed 11 workers and triggered the largest U.S. offshore oil spill.
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Report: White House altered drilling safety report
By DINA CAPPIELLO
The Associated Press
www.washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, November 10, 2010; 11:11 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The Interior Department's inspector general says the White House edited a drilling safety report in a way that made it falsely appear that scientists and experts supported the idea of the administration's six-month ban on new drilling.
The inspector general says the editing changes resulted "in the implication that the moratorium recommendation had been peer reviewed." But it hadn't been. The scientists were only asked to review new safety measures for offshore drilling.
"There was no intent to mislead the public," said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who also recommended in the May 27 safety report that a moratorium be placed on deepwater oil and gas exploration. "The decision to impose a temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling was made by the secretary, following consultation with colleagues including the White House."
The Interior Department, after one of the reviewers complained about the inference, promptly issued an apology to the reviewers during a conference call, with a letter and personal meeting in June.
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Louisiana Sen. David Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
But Louisiana Rep. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, said in a statement that the investigation proved "that the blanket drilling moratorium was driven by a politics and not by science."
"Candidate Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," Cassidy said. Cassidy said if that were true thousands of jobs and billions in economic activity would have been preserved on the Gulf coast.
The Web site Politico was first to report the inspector general's findings. The Associated Press on Wednesday obtained a copy of the report, which has not been publicly released.
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Report: White House altered drilling safety report
By DINA CAPPIELLO
The Associated Press
www.washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, November 10, 2010; 11:11 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The Interior Department's inspector general says the White House edited a drilling safety report in a way that made it falsely appear that scientists and experts supported the idea of the administration's six-month ban on new drilling.
The inspector general says the editing changes resulted "in the implication that the moratorium recommendation had been peer reviewed." But it hadn't been. The scientists were only asked to review new safety measures for offshore drilling.
"There was no intent to mislead the public," said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who also recommended in the May 27 safety report that a moratorium be placed on deepwater oil and gas exploration. "The decision to impose a temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling was made by the secretary, following consultation with colleagues including the White House."
The Interior Department, after one of the reviewers complained about the inference, promptly issued an apology to the reviewers during a conference call, with a letter and personal meeting in June.
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Louisiana Sen. David Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
But Louisiana Rep. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, said in a statement that the investigation proved "that the blanket drilling moratorium was driven by a politics and not by science."
"Candidate Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," Cassidy said. Cassidy said if that were true thousands of jobs and billions in economic activity would have been preserved on the Gulf coast.
The Web site Politico was first to report the inspector general's findings. The Associated Press on Wednesday obtained a copy of the report, which has not been publicly released.
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