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Title: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 12:11:55 AM
Situation seems to be escalating:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703904804575631763523837910.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/23/skorea-nkorea-fires-artillery-island/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005


South Korea deployed Fighter Jets to counter NK:

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/11/23/75/0301000000AEN20101123007500315F.HTML

Live feed:

http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english


This might get interesting.

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on November 23, 2010, 12:25:45 AM
it should be limited to this.  if more comes then MORE comes, ya know?  we'll see.  def. an eye on this one.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
It's sunset there now and there hasn't been any recent fire between the two so that will probably be the end of that.  I was kind of waiting up to see if something else happened, guess I'll go to bed now that war isn't breaking out, heh.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 24KT on November 23, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
Good Grief!!! This planet is run by madmen!

where is HH6, ...and what is his part in all of this? hmmm...  ???
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 23, 2010, 01:52:17 AM
My grandfather was killed in Korean War I, wouldn't it be ironic if I was killed in Korean War II?

 :-\
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 03:40:48 AM
Nothing much onm the news yet.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Straw Man on November 23, 2010, 04:20:52 AM
Nothing much onm the news yet.

I can't believe you haven't yet cobbled together a conspiracy theory to blame this on Obama/Ayers/Wright et al

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 04:25:03 AM
Why are you posting at
430 am?    Lol
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Straw Man on November 23, 2010, 04:28:19 AM
Why are you posting at
430 am?    Lol

can't sleep

been up watching the currency market and stressing over some work stuff
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 05:01:12 AM
can't sleep

been up watching the currency market and stressing over some work stuff

I didnt want to dissapoint Straw .   ;D  ;D

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 225for70 on November 23, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
Looks like Strawman's currency Broker called in and asked for him to put up "margin" up....
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Straw Man on November 23, 2010, 06:42:54 AM
Looks like Strawman's currency Broker called in and asked for him to put up "margin" up....

hardly ....and they don't call
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Straw Man on November 23, 2010, 06:43:40 AM
I didnt want to dissapoint Straw .   ;D  ;D

failed again.....as usual:

Quote
A senior administration official said the president was woken up shortly before 4 a.m. by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, who updated the president on the situation. Obama will get further updates during his daily intelligence briefing before heading to Indiana, where he’s scheduled to make remarks on the economy.

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 06:47:44 AM
failed again.....as usual:


I really hinks he does not give a rats ass. 

After the failure he just had in Korea with the trade agreement situation, I believe he will just punt on this. 

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cohibia on November 23, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
america has been taunting north korea for years.

payback maybe?
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 06:58:33 AM
america has been taunting north korea for years.

payback maybe?

I think they are just kicking Obama when he is down after the humiliating defeat he had in Seoul. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 225for70 on November 23, 2010, 07:00:37 AM
@straw boy
Usually there's something in the "agreement" that mentions margin calls. However, these days such things would be done via email, or a notice when you log into your account.  However, the broker is more likely to just liquidate your positions when your equity percentage drops below a certain percent.







Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Straw Man on November 23, 2010, 07:07:12 AM
@straw boy
Usually there's something in the "agreement" that mentions margin calls. However, these days such things would be done via email, or a notice when you log into your account.  However, the broker is more likely to just liquidate your positions when your equity percentage drops below a certain percent.

like I said

they don't call

I haven't gotten an actual margin call (on the phone) since ~ mid 2000 when I was trying to trade bond futures
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 225for70 on November 23, 2010, 07:22:14 AM
like I said

they don't call

I haven't gotten an actual margin call (on the phone) since ~ mid 2000 when I was trying to trade bond futures

That's the way securities trading has evolved over the years.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 07:29:49 AM
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Kazan on November 23, 2010, 07:50:24 AM
america has been taunting north korea for years.

payback maybe?

Oh what a surprise Mons Anus decides this must be America's fault. Different handle same stupid fucker behind the keyboard
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Kazan on November 23, 2010, 07:51:39 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure as we type the UN, maybe even the security council is drafting harshly written letter condemning North Korea.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cohibia on November 23, 2010, 08:52:28 AM


Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: dario73 on November 23, 2010, 09:19:19 AM
america has been taunting north korea for years.

payback maybe?

If that is the case, why didn't they attack the US military ships back in July while they did drills and dropped anti-sub bombs? This was a few months after North Korea had sunk a South Korean warship.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: kcballer on November 23, 2010, 09:27:14 AM
NK responding to SK running military drills i believe.  NK is worried that it's future heir will be seen and is seen as weak, so it's stepping up it's aggression.  Notice also they had an American tour a state of the art nuclear facility.  They are trying to protect the son and the Jong-Il dynasty.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 09:35:55 AM
NK responding to SK running military drills i believe.  NK is worried that it's future heir will be seen and is seen as weak, so it's stepping up it's aggression.  Notice also they had an American tour a state of the art nuclear facility.  They are trying to protect the son and the Jong-Il dynasty.

NK - is probably low on cash, resources, and materials and will now SUCCESSFULLY shake down Obama for more $ $ $ $, which he will give them.   
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Overload on November 23, 2010, 09:38:04 AM
This is standard operating procedure.

I do not see why people are surprised by this.

It happens quite regularly.



8)
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: tonymctones on November 23, 2010, 09:38:40 AM
I can't believe you haven't yet cobbled together a conspiracy theory to blame this on Obama/Ayers/Wright et al


LOL im suprised obama hasnt mentioned bushes name 5 times in regards to this yet... ;D
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: kcballer on November 23, 2010, 09:51:46 AM
NK - is probably low on cash, resources, and materials and will now SUCCESSFULLY shake down Obama for more $ $ $ $, which he will give them.   

Perhaps they will.  The cost of going to war is far greater at this point than sending fuel and oil to NK.  You don't seem to understand that if and when you go to war, people die.  Are you prepared to see American troops dying in the Korean peninsula again because you would prefer we didn't negotiate for peace first?
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 09:54:50 AM
Perhaps they will.  The cost of going to war is far greater at this point than sending fuel and oil to NK.  You don't seem to understand that if and when you go to war, people die.  Are you prepared to see American troops dying in the Korean peninsula again because you would prefer we didn't negotiate for peace first?

No - that is why these people are masters at the shakedown. 

Seems like they have Jesse & Al on retainer. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 09:55:46 AM
This is standard operating procedure.

I do not see why people are surprised by this.

It happens quite regularly.
8)

I'm not really surprised necessarily, but I can't recall them attacking land so close to military bases, which there are quite a few close to where the rockets landed.  This certainly isn't the first time they've barked, and definitely won't be the last I'm sure.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: kcballer on November 23, 2010, 09:59:49 AM
No - that is why these people are masters at the shakedown. 

Seems like they have Jesse & Al on retainer. 


 ::) What would you do 333?  Impose more sanctions?  Go to war?  Kill thousands of Americans?  Come on 333 before you criticize have an idea yourself
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 10:14:43 AM
::) What would you do 333?  Impose more sanctions?  Go to war?  Kill thousands of Americans?  Come on 333 before you criticize have an idea yourself

I would send a few JDAMS at the missle site like Reagan did to Lybia after Lockerbie, tell the world to stuff it.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: kcballer on November 23, 2010, 10:19:35 AM
I would send a few JDAMS at the missle site like Reagan did to Lybia after Lockerbie, tell the world to stuff it.

And when they retaliate with nuclear weapons on Seoul what then?  You don't seem to understand that Lybia is far less dangerous than NK.  NK has a military with nothing to lose and actual WMD's not Bush made up WMD's.  You escalate like that you have to understand it will create an all out war with a country that has Nuclear weapons.  You really want to go down that route?? 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 10:21:33 AM
And when they retaliate with nuclear weapons on Seoul what then?  You don't seem to understand that Lybia is far less dangerous than NK.  NK has a military with nothing to lose and actual WMD's not Bush made up WMD's.  You escalate like that you have to understand it will create an all out war with a country that has Nuclear weapons.  You really want to go down that route?? 

Ha ha - just relishing the 1980's bro.  Best decade ever. 

 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cohibia on November 23, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
I would send a few JDAMS at the missle site like Reagan did to Lybia after Lockerbie, tell the world to stuff it.

reagan was a traitor who sold illegal arms to Iran in exchange 4 US hostages/ supplying guerrillas.







Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 10:38:22 AM
reagan was a traitor who sold illegal arms to Iran in exchange 4 US hostages/ supplying guerrillas.









Reagan makes your communist messiah look like a shoe shine boy - oh wait . . .. at least a shoe shine boy actual has experience doing something. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cohibia on November 23, 2010, 10:44:50 AM
Reagan makes your communist messiah look like a shoe shine boy - oh wait . . .. at least a shoe shine boy actual has experience doing something. 


stick to topic PEA BRAIN!
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: dario73 on November 23, 2010, 10:51:28 AM
Charles Krauthammer believes that USA should threaten China and North Korea with allowing or arming Japan with nuclear weapons. China is the one that provides North Korea with whatever they need.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Kazan on November 23, 2010, 11:12:33 AM
Perhaps some of you are unaware that the Korean war never ended. The fighting stopped with an armistice agreement in 1953.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 24KT on November 23, 2010, 12:11:40 PM
I can't believe you haven't yet cobbled together a conspiracy theory to blame this on Obama/Ayers/Wright et al


LOL. I'm surprised too. Afterall, the USDollar did get a bit of a boost on that news.
Of course GOLD got an even bigger boost!  :D
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 12:15:11 PM
LOL. I'm surprised too. Afterall, the USDollar did get a bit of a boost on that news.
Of course GOLD got an even bigger boost!  :D

Obama at this point seems strung out on something and acting out of mental illness and delusion at best.

He is s out of his element and ver his head at this point I would not be surprised if he resigned.   
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 24KT on November 23, 2010, 12:16:15 PM
NK responding to SK running military drills i believe.  NK is worried that it's future heir will be seen and is seen as weak, so it's stepping up it's aggression.  Notice also they had an American tour a state of the art nuclear facility.  They are trying to protect the son and the Jong-Il dynasty.

Isn't this always the case... lately it's becoming stale. the ol' military drills raising their ugly heads again!
Why is it these crisis always seem to occur when someone is running a drill?  >:(
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 24KT on November 23, 2010, 12:18:01 PM
Obama at this point seems strung out on something and acting out of mental illness and delusion at best.

He is s out of his element and ver his head at this point I would not be surprised if he resigned.  

LOL. I think you're the one acting out of mental illness and delusion at best!

Resign?! Sha right!  ::)  He ain't Palin!!!
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 12:20:04 PM
LOL. I think you're the one acting out of mental illness and delusion at best!

Resign?! Sha right!  ::)  He ain't Palin!!!

why?  He is bored to death, hates the job, the GOP now has a cock block on everything he wants to do, faces a beating in 2012 by almost any possible GOP challenger, possibly even Sarah if he continues with his bizarre agenda, etc. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: 24KT on November 23, 2010, 12:28:01 PM
why?  He is bored to death, hates the job, the GOP now has a cock block on everything he wants to do, faces a beating in 2012 by almost any possible GOP challenger, possibly even Sarah if he continues with his bizarre agenda, etc. 

All the more reason why he wouldn't quit. He'll stick it out and cash in like all other politicians before him.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 12:30:47 PM
All the more reason why he wouldn't quit. He'll stick it out and cash in like all other politicians before him.

If anyone should be loving his failures - its you.   Gold only goes up with each passing failure.   
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Reagan makes your communist messiah look like a shoe shine boy - oh wait . . .. at least a shoe shine boy actual has experience doing something. 

Reagan was one of the MAIN contributors to the state we are in now, so it's like saying being killed by getting run over is better than getting stabbed to death.  They both suck.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 12:42:40 PM
Reagan was one of the MAIN contributors to the state we are in now, so it's like saying being killed by getting run over is better than getting stabbed to death.  They both suck.

How did Reagan contribute to the mess we are in, over 20 years ago? 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
How did Reagan contribute to the mess we are in, over 20 years ago? 

He was a massive proponent of deregulation which started the unraveling of the yarn, if you will. He made deregulation and ideological theme.  In order to do this he needed plausible support from the people whom the regulation was ultimately intended to protect.  He used a variety of bumper sticker type slogans like “getting the government off our backs.”  He created theatrical hypothetical villains and was celebrated for titling his lance at these windmills.  He mixed this in with cutting taxes to create enough populist appeal to undertake the removal of many restrictions imposed by government.   Thomas Frank explored this phenomenon in more recent years in a book called “What’s the Matter with Kansas.”

Bill Clinton took it even further where Reagan didn't have the balls to go.  So it's not like there's one side to the story, there's been a rolling push for government deregulation over the past 20 years through multiple administrations  which caused massive imbalances in the markets, created monopolies (Clear Channel gobbling up every media outlet it could controlling the air waves) and eventually allowing sub prime mortgages which were a heavy contributor to the collapse (amongst other things).

That's why I find it so amusing when people outright defend democrats or republicans.  There's no such thing.  People should be loyal to the ideals of the party, not the party itself.  Just take a look at history, when it comes to the important things, the issues that shape our nation, it doesn't matter what side they are on.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 01:00:09 PM
What "deregulation" specifically did Reagan pass through that contributed to the mess we are in? 

Mind you he had a Dem congress most of his term - so what specifically? 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cohibia on November 23, 2010, 01:02:24 PM

reagan was a traitor who sold illegal arms to Iran in exchange 4 US hostages/ supplying guerrillas.



do u deny this 3334567?
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 01:07:25 PM
do u deny this 3334567?

Yes- would you have preferred we went to full out war over 4 hostages? 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 23, 2010, 01:27:33 PM
Who decides whether or not something is important enough to wake the president up for?
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
What "deregulation" specifically did Reagan pass through that contributed to the mess we are in? 

Mind you he had a Dem congress most of his term - so what specifically? 

Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act which he signed himself in 1982 for one.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 01:29:10 PM
Who decides whether or not something is important enough to wake the president up for?

Probably Larry Sinclair  

Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 23, 2010, 01:35:06 PM
Probably Larry Sinclair  



hahahahahaha

Didn't Hitler fuck up D-Day because his staff was afraid to wake him up?

???
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 01:37:39 PM
hahahahahaha

Didn't Hitler fuck up D-Day because his staff was afraid to wake him up?

???

I thought he was having a wiener schnitzel and couldn't be bothered with such nonsense.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
This has all the hallmarks of a major shakedown. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Emmortal on November 23, 2010, 09:38:42 PM
Korean people are fucking wierdos.

 North and South. They are soulless creatures.

I dated a couple of Korean girls, worst mistake of my life.
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 03:57:03 AM
Care to explain why?  This sounds like it could be good. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: North Korea Attacks South Korea
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 24, 2010, 04:11:17 AM
Care to explain why?  This sounds like it could be good. 
haha, he's telling the truth there...  word of advice, don't go there lol....