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Title: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Danny on November 24, 2010, 11:07:25 AM
THIS complete fuckin moron is whom some of you want to support for President??? OMG  :o

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:09:00 AM
 ::)  ::)

Please - i heard the entire interview live on beck - why not post the whole interview fool?

She was in the middle of a fast flowing conversation and misspoke.  Do you want me to post equal stuff from Dear Asshole?   
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2010, 11:15:21 AM
She was in the middle of a fast flowing conversation and misspoke.  Do you want me to post equal stuff from Dear Asshole?   

But you HAVE posted the Obama 57 states, or Biden "JOBS 3 letter word" thing about 10,000 times.

So yes - Senator Obama did believe that there were 57 states, Biden cannot count past 3, and we now know that Palin wants to torpedo Seoul.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:19:06 AM
But you HAVE posted the Obama 57 states, or Biden "JOBS 3 letter word" thing about 10,000 times.

So yes - Senator Obama did believe that there were 57 states, Biden cannot count past 3, and we now know that Palin wants to torpedo Seoul.

The difference is - oh cult leader in the church of Obama, that no one has ever claimed Sarah tobe a brilliant transformational messiah like the object of your wet dreams.

Did you hear the interview live in its entirety?  Yes or no ?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2010, 11:24:16 AM
The difference is - oh cult leader in the church of Obama, that no one has ever claimed Sarah tobe a brilliant transformational messiah like the object of your wet dreams.

Nobody has, huh?

Nobody has talked about her being what is needed to save the GOP, restore america?  Nobody has done that?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Fury on November 24, 2010, 11:25:16 AM
THIS complete fuckin moron is whom some of you want to support for President??? OMG  :o



Obama's done us well, what with getting rebuked by every G20 country two weeks ago or the laundry list of other fuck ups he's made on the world stage.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
Nobody has, huh?

Nobody has talked about her being what is needed to save the GOP, restore america?  Nobody has done that?

240- i posted a thread calling you out for one of your more inane posts shilling for Obama, why have you not responded? 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: MCWAY on November 24, 2010, 11:38:25 AM
THIS complete fuckin moron is whom some of you want to support for President??? OMG  :o



That's rich!! Meanwhile folks of your ilk have been gobbling Obama's testicles for nearly two years. As Baby Girl said earlier this year, "How's that hopey-changey stuff workin' for ya?"

Should be post Obama, sounding like a drunken Porky Pig, with marbles in his mouth, after being asked a simple question about Jihad (while he was on his post-election BEATDOWN excursion)?

Or, when he got stumped by card-carrying kneepadder, Velma Hart?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2010, 11:41:27 AM
As Baby Girl said earlier this year,

Kinda degrading to call her that.  Why not just "Governor GILF?"

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
The difference is - oh cult leader in the church of Obama, that no one has ever claimed Sarah tobe a brilliant transformational messiah like the object of your wet dreams.

Did you hear the interview live in its entirety?  Yes or no ?


Very nice
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: MCWAY on November 24, 2010, 11:42:04 AM



Obama's done us well, what with getting rebuked by every G20 country two weeks ago or the laundry list of other fuck ups he's made on the world stage.

But, but, but, but, everyone was supposed to LOVE us, because of his intellectualism, his charm, just for not being that big-eared Texan guy.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Kazan on November 24, 2010, 11:42:57 AM
But you HAVE posted the Obama 57 states, or Biden "JOBS 3 letter word" thing about 10,000 times.

So yes - Senator Obama did believe that there were 57 states, Biden cannot count past 3, and we now know that Palin wants to torpedo Seoul.

It happens all the time, I hear people at least twice a day think the US has 57 states ::)
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: MCWAY on November 24, 2010, 11:43:41 AM
Kinda degrading to call her that.  Why not just "Governor GILF?"



Because it's a term of endearment, not an expression of wanting to bone her.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:44:39 AM


But, but, but, but, everyone was supposed to LOVE us, because of his intellectualism, his charm, just for not being that big-eared Texan guy.

The world freaking HATES us right now even worse than under Bush. 

Obama adds chaos and instability to an already fragile situation. 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:46:54 AM
The world freaking HATES us right now even worse than under Bush

Obama adds chaos and instability to an already fragile situation. 

Really?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2010, 11:48:28 AM
Because it's a term of endearment, not an expression of wanting to bone her.

I just see that as kinda degrading to the potential leader of the free world.

Reminds me of the president of pakistan hitting on her, and Palin just flirting and giggling.  World leaders like Merckel or Clinton would flinch if another leader had the audacity to sexualize a leader like that...

I see people who get all uppity, saying Palin is hated because she's a woman - it's not that at all.  She's our generation's version of Dan Quayle.  She's just not smart.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:49:04 AM
The world freaking HATES us right now even worse than under Bush. 

Obama adds chaos and instability to an already fragile situation. 

now you know how i am.. and you know im gonna get you.. so you wanna kinda be more specific or retract this..
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:50:01 AM
Really?

Yes.  Do you read anything other than Mad Magazine?  

Maybe you missed China bitch slapping obama.  Maybe you missed russia and china dumping the dollar.  Maybe you missed the palistinaians and isreal saying obamais an obstacle to peace, maybe you misssed korea sending obama away empty handed, etc ec.  

I guess international relations aint your thing bro.  
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Fury on November 24, 2010, 11:51:19 AM
Yes.  Do you read anything other than Mad Magazine?  

Maybe you missed China bitch slapping obama.  Maybe you missed russia and china dumping the dollar.  Maybe you missed the palistinaians and isreal saying obamais an obstacle to peace, maybe you misssed korea sending obama away empty handed, etc ec.  

I guess international relations aint your thing bro.  

His numbers in the Muslim world are the lowest they've been, despite the fact that he's spent the last two years kissing their collective ass 24/7.

Full steam ahead for Team Obama.  ::)
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:53:08 AM
Here is the whole interview.  It was a good one. 

I would vote for her in a heartbeat over the disaster in office we have now. 



Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Kazan on November 24, 2010, 11:53:47 AM
His numbers in the Muslim world are the lowest they've been, despite the fact that he's spent the last two years kissing their collective ass 24/7.

Full steam ahead for Team Obama.  ::)

Well that's because he seems to think dealing with the tribal/theocratic culture of the ME is just like dealing with anyone else.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:54:40 AM
Yes.  Do you read anything other than Mad Magazine?  

Maybe you missed China bitch slapping obama.  Maybe you missed russia and china dumping the dollar.  Maybe you missed the palistinaians and isreal saying obamais an obstacle to peace, maybe you misssed korea sending obama away empty handed, etc ec.  

I guess international relations aint your thing bro.  

god damn it 3333 this was an easy one.. like too easy


http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/463.php?lb=btvoc&pnt=463&nid=&id=
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: kcballer on November 24, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Haha quote of the day has to be - the world hates us more than under Bush!

I'm sorry but where are the thousand upon thousands of protesters wherever Obama goes overseas?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Kazan on November 24, 2010, 11:56:23 AM
The first link has nothing to do with US popularity and the second one if from 2008
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1289/global-attitudes-survey-2009-obama-lifts-america-image
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Dos Equis on November 24, 2010, 11:57:32 AM
THIS complete fuckin moron is whom some of you want to support for President??? OMG  :o



Seriously?  This is almost as bad as posting her high school transcripts.  
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 11:58:33 AM
The first link has nothing to do with US popularity and the second one if from 2008


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/19/worlds-opinion-of-us-has_n_542598.html


this is the one i ment to put...
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
Ha ha ha ha - are you freaking kidding?  

and Grey won DWTS last night - so fucking what?

Even Donald Trump said this morning that all of his business partners worldwide say uniformley that we are being laughed at due to Obama.    



Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:00:01 PM
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023402.php


AMERICA'S IMPROVED GLOBAL STANDING.... I've been keeping an eye on international attitudes towards the United States since the change in presidential administrations, and it's been encouraging to see America's standing rise after reaching embarrassing depths. It appears the trend is continuing.

Views of the US around the world have improved sharply over the past year, a BBC World Service poll suggests.

For the first time since the annual poll began in 2005, America's influence in the world is now seen as more positive than negative.

The improved scores for the US coincided with Barack Obama becoming president, a BBC correspondent notes.



The international poll was conducted between November 2009 and February 2010, and surveyed nearly 30,000 people in 28 countries. It was conducted with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

Steven Kull, PIPA's director, noted, "After a year, it appears the 'Obama effect' is real."

This isn't the only recent survey showing the nation's standing improving. Gallup reported in February, "Perceptions of U.S. leadership worldwide improved significantly from 2008 to 2009. The U.S.-Global Leadership Project, a partnership between the Meridian International Center and Gallup, finds that a median of 51% of the world approves of the job performance of the current leadership of the U.S., up from a median of 34% in 2008."

In October, the Nation Brand Index survey found that the U.S. had reclaimed its position as the most admired country globally, up from seventh place in 2008. Similarly, in July, the Pew Global Attitudes Project found a vast improvement in international views of the United States since the president's election.

Obviously, international support can change, sometimes rapidly. But for those who hoped to see our stature improve after eight years of unpleasantness, it's heartening to see the United States' stature grow once again.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
Ha ha ha ha - are you freaking kidding?  

and Grey won DWTS last night - so fucking what?

Even Donald Trump said this morning that all of his business partners worldwide say uniformley that we are being laughed at due to Obama.    
Oh ok.. well since Donald Trump said his friends dont like Obama i guess all these numbers and this data can just go out the window.. cool...
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:01:35 PM
Mal - do you even read? 

Yes or no? 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 24, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
Kenya at 94%......haha, wonder why that is?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:02:44 PM
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:03:43 PM
Mal - do you even read? 

Yes or no? 


lol yeah thats how i blow your arguments out of the water

AMERICA'S IMPROVED GLOBAL STANDING.... I've been keeping an eye on international attitudes towards the United States since the change in presidential administrations, and it's been encouraging to see America's standing rise after reaching embarrassing depths. It appears the trend is continuing.

Views of the US around the world have improved sharply over the past year, a BBC World Service poll suggests.

For the first time since the annual poll began in 2005, America's influence in the world is now seen as more positive than negative.
The improved scores for the US coincided with Barack Obama becoming president, a BBC correspondent notes.



The international poll was conducted between November 2009 and February 2010, and surveyed nearly 30,000 people in 28 countries. It was conducted with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.

Steven Kull, PIPA's director, noted, "After a year, it appears the 'Obama effect' is real."

This isn't the only recent survey showing the nation's standing improving. Gallup reported in February, "Perceptions of U.S. leadership worldwide improved significantly from 2008 to 2009. The U.S.-Global Leadership Project, a partnership between the Meridian International Center and Gallup, finds that a median of 51% of the world approves of the job performance of the current leadership of the U.S., up from a median of 34% in 2008."

In October, the Nation Brand Index survey found that the U.S. had reclaimed its position as the most admired country globally, up from seventh place in 2008. Similarly, in July, the Pew Global Attitudes Project found a vast improvement in international views of the United States since the president's election.

Obviously, international support can change, sometimes rapidly. But for those who hoped to see our stature improve after eight years of unpleasantness, it's heartening to see the United States' stature grow once again.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Fury on November 24, 2010, 12:07:38 PM
I don't think referencing a poll conducted from November 09 to February 10 is a good barometer for where he stands right at this moment in time. Most people were still riding the Obama election high in November 2009.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:09:21 PM
China - just bitch slapped obama at the G20

Russia & China - just dropped the dollar

Europe - Lecturing Obama on his reckless spending.  

Israel - hates obama

Palestinians - say Obama is an obstacle to peace.  

South Korea - just embarrassed obama over the treaty.  

North Korea - making obama look helpless.  

Afghanistan - falling apart.  

 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
I don't think referencing a poll conducted from November 09 to February 10 is a good barometer for where he stands right at this moment in time. Most people were still riding the Obama election high in November 2009.

he said we are hated more now than under Bush.. Do you agree with that?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:10:47 PM
China - just bitch slapped obama at the G20

Russia & China - just dropped the dollar

Europe - Lecturing Obama on his reckless spending.  

Israel - hates obama

Palestinians - say Obama is an obstacle to peace.  

South Korea - just embarrassed obama over the treaty.  

North Korea - making obama look helpless.  

Afghanistan - falling apart.  

 
Numbers chief... i work off numbers... post a poll or something or shut the fuck up
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:13:21 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3637925/Hatred-of-America-unites-the-world.html
Hatred of America unites the world
By Niall Ferguson 12:01AM GMT 25 Feb 2007
Comments
Being hated is no fun. Few of us are like those pantomime villains who glory in the hisses and boos of an audience. And few people hate being hated more than Americans. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been asked the plaintive question: "Why do they hate us?" and another for each of the different answers I've heard. It's because of our foreign policy. It's because of their extremism. It's because of our arrogance. It's because of their inferiority complex. Americans really hate not knowing why they're hated.

The best explanation is in fact the simplest. Being hated is what happens to dominant empires. It comes - sometimes literally - with the territory. George Orwell knew the feeling. As a young man he served as an assistant police superintendent in British-run Burma, an experience he memorably described in his essay "Shooting an Elephant". Called upon to kill a rogue pachyderm that had run amok, Orwell was suddenly aware "of the watchful yellow faces behind" him:

"The sole thought in my mind was that if anything went wrong those two thousand Burmans would see me pursued, caught, trampled on and reduced to a grinning corpse like that Indian up the hill. And if that happened it was quite probable that some of them would laugh."
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: blacken700 on November 24, 2010, 12:13:27 PM
what a babbling idiot, reminds me of this moron  :D :D :D

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:14:51 PM
The problem is that with obama we are both hated and DISrespected. 

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:16:05 PM
I don't think referencing a poll conducted from November 09 to February 10 is a good barometer for where he stands right at this moment in time. Most people were still riding the Obama election high in November 2009.

Cmon chief.. youre college educated.. Though your Palin support is suprising and funny.. please show me some data that supports the claim that America is viewed more negatively around the world under Obama than under Bush..
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:16:53 PM
The problem is that with obama we are both hated and DISrespected. 



Can you please show me the numbers that say our world view is more negative under obama than bush...
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
Big Mal - time to get a clue.  


________________________ ________________________ ______________________

Has U.S. Foreign Policy Ever Been This Screwed Up?
American Thinker ^ | 11/23/2010 | Michael Filozof



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American foreign policy is in a state of total disarray. I don't think that our foreign policy has been in straits this dire since the early 1960s, when we rushed headlong from the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis straight into Vietnam. At least then our foreign policy was consistent in its anti-communism. Today's is incoherent, counterproductive, and sometimes downright idiotic (e.g., when Hillary Clinton went to Russia to push the "reset button"). The Obama administration is either doing nothing to preempt the coming disasters or actually making them worse. It's time for a full-blown, radical reevaluation of our foreign policy.


Let's look around the world at several case studies to see just how much trouble we could be in for:


Afghanistan: The Russians must be laughing their tails off watching the U.S. get stuck in Afghanistan, just as they did in 1979. But the deaths of American service personnel in a pointless war to prop up a corrupt and incompetent government aren't very funny. Invading Afghanistan was the right thing to do in 2001 when we went after Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaeda network, but we should have been out of there by 2004, when the war seemed like a total success.


Here is the situation: al-Qaeda fled from Afghanistan long ago to nuclear-armed Pakistan, where we can't go after them. The Taliban has now been defined as the enemy -- but the Taliban never plotted or carried out any terrorist attacks against the U.S.


President Obama -- who is "uncomfortable" using the term "victory" in Afghanistan -- said that we would withdraw troops in 2011. That was a lie. Now he says we'll be out by 2014. That's simply crazy. The U.S. defense budget last year was $660 billion. If we cannot defeat illiterate tribesmen who lack tanks, aircraft, or uniforms after nine years of fighting with a half-trillion-dollar defense budget, something is very wrong. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the former field commander in Afghanistan, once said, "We can't kill our way out of this." If a top commander admits that we cannot win a war by killing the enemy, why are we still there -- and why are we committing our forces for another four years?


Iraq: Iraq had been a festering sore in the Middle East for two decades when we invaded in 2003, rightly fearing that Saddam still possessed the chemical and biological weapons we knew he had -- and used - in the 1980s. Left-wing critics of George W. Bush immediately politicized the war and accused Bush of shedding "blood for oil." Too bad that wasn't true. After spending four thousand American lives and billions of dollars deposing a ruthless dictator, the very least we should have gotten out of the deal was a tanker a day full of Iraqi oil and ninety-nine-cent gasoline. But we didn't get even that. George W. took a Wilsonian turn and decided that the war was all about establishing Iraqi democracy. Bad idea. Iraq somehow turned out a European-style parliamentary democracy (why not an American presidential system?) that has severe difficulty forming governments. Instead of a pro-American regional ally and a guaranteed oil supply, we get P.C. blather from our government about green jobs, electric cars, and Iraqi democracy.


Iran: The theocratic dictatorship of Iran was created in 1979, when Islamic radicals overthrew the Shah, seized the U.S. Embassy, and held 52 diplomats hostage for 444 days. Night after night, the blindfolded hostages were paraded before screaming mobs chanting "death to the Great Satan" and burning the American flag in the streets of Tehran. The U.S. has not had diplomatic relations with Iran for thirty years and has named Iran to the list of nations that sponsor terrorism.


Today, Iran is enriching uranium in violation of International Atomic Energy Agency (an arm of the U.N.) protocols, ostensibly to build an innocent nuclear power plant. According to the IAEA, every nation on earth has the right to a nuclear power plant. We would gladly give Iran enriched uranium for a "power plant" because the level of enrichment for that application cannot possibly be used for a nuclear bomb. By maintaining an indigenous enrichment capability, Iran will be able to enrich to the 80%-90% weapons-grade level. Iran is unquestionably working on the bomb.


What could the Iranians do with the bomb? At the very least, they could threaten to nuke any ship passing out of the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, thereby obtaining immediate control over oil from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Bahrain, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates. The global economy would be paralyzed overnight. At worst, the Iranians could give a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group, who could detonate it in one of the "Great Satan's" cities. Nuclear terrorists would not leave the telltale radar signature of an intercontinental ballistic missile to divulge the origin of the bomb; the Iranians would shrug and say, "We have no idea how that happened!" If such an event actually transpired, does anyone seriously believe President Obama would order a nuclear counterstrike on the mere suspicion that the Iranians might have been responsible?


On the other hand, if we preemptively strike Iran to destroy its enrichment program, the Iranians will surely try to close the Strait of Hormuz and cripple the world economy anyway. It's a no-win situation. Don't worry, though -- Obama's policy toward the Iranians is to apologize for the CIA's involvement in overthrowing socialist weirdo Mohammed Mossadegh - all the way back in 1953. (Yeah, Barry, that'll stop 'em from getting nuclear weapons for sure.)


NATO: Almost a decade after the 9/11 attacks were committed by Muslim terrorists and after nine years of combat in two Muslim countries, President Obama insists that "we are not at war with Islam." But we are, apparently, still fighting the Cold War. As the leading member of NATO, we have troops in Europe nearly twenty years after the Soviet Union collapsed. Why?


Perhaps the name of NATO should be changed to EROUS -- for "Europeans Ripping Off Uncle Sam." We have trade deficits with all our major NATO partners (except for the Netherlands), meaning we give them our money and pay for their defense. The U.S. defense budget is $660 billion, or 4.7% of GDP; Great Britain, our most important NATO ally, spends $69 billion, or 2.5% of GDP. Germany's defense budget is $48 billion, a piddling 1.3% of GDP. NATO "ally" Iceland has no army at all. Media reports that refer to "NATO forces" in Afghanistan are a joke. Britain and Canada have fought valiantly in Afghanistan, but for the rest of our "allies," the Afghan mission is more like a Boy Scout camp-out on Uncle Sam's dime.


Today, NATO is an alliance without a purpose. NATO is a collective-defense alliance, meaning that American troops are committed to die for the defense of other members -- like Denmark, Norway, and Iceland. After the collapse of the USSR, we -- incredibly-- expanded, not disbanded, the alliance. Today, NATO even includes Albania. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.


The Rest of the World: Sixty-five years after World War II ended, we still have troops in Japan. The U.S. Marine Corps and the U.S. Navy are the de facto defense forces of Japan, the third-richest nation in the world. Why? China's $100-billion defense budget is now the second-largest in the world. The Chinese are developing anti-aircraft-carrier missile technology that could end American hegemony of the seas. Where do they get the money? From us -- our trade deficit is about $250 billion per annum, and the Chinese now hold $2.4 trillion of our $13.5-trillion national debt. American troops have been in Korea continuously for sixty years; today, North Korea has nuclear weapons, and its reclusive dictator Kim Jong-il could be mentally ill. Pakistan is a seething cauldron of fanatics. It already has nuclear weapons and is probably harboring Osama bin Laden. Terrorists assassinated presidential candidate Benazir Bhutto and attacked the Red Mosque and the headquarters of the Pakistani military. Ten per cent of Mexico's population has emigrated illegally to the U.S., but we have failed to seal the border. Mexico is descending into third-world gangland anarchy right on our doorstep, but Washington chose to sue Arizona for asking suspected illegals for I.D.


An honest appraisal of the situation is downright depressing. In a few years, everything might come unglued. Hopefully that won't happen, but the current trajectory of things doesn't look very good, and our political leadership seems absolutely clueless about how to advance American interests in an increasingly dangerous world.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:19:16 PM
Can you please show me the numbers that say our world view is more negative under obama than bush...

Its called the news and reality - something obama cultists are not al that good at.   
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:21:30 PM
let me get a poll that says like the % of people with a Favorable view.. and compare the numbers from Bush vs Obama.. you can do it by year.. like this
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 24, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
FTW
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:24:27 PM
Then maybe go ahead and dont take opinion articles written by biassed writers.. will ya chief... just some unbiased numbers to support your argument of the world having a less favorable view of the US under Obama than Bush..

Please.. this one is easy.. they do polls for stuff like this
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
Look at your chart fool!  

The idiotic countries - most like moronic obama voters like yourself, clearly are losing support from 2009 -2010.  

It looks like they had high hopes, for whatever reason I have no idea, and are clearly losing and liability they once had for bama.  
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:26:07 PM
Look at your chart fool!  

The idiotic countries - most like moronic obama voters like yourself, clearly are losing support from 2009 -2010.  

It looks like they had high hopes, for whatever reason I have no idea, and are clearly losing and liability they once had for bama.  


yeah lets just get some data other than donald trumps friends.. just like something that can like easily like back up your claim
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Fury on November 24, 2010, 12:27:03 PM
Cmon chief.. youre college educated.. Though your Palin support is suprising and funny.. please show me some data that supports the claim that America is viewed more negatively around the world under Obama than under Bush..

Jesus, sorry for not responding in 30 seconds. I'm not smashing f5 on this board. Regardless, I don't support Palin and I don't support Obama, either.

I can't be bothered to dig up polling statistics. Look around. His numbers in the Muslim world are trash. He's been rebuked by all of our allies. He embarrassed us at the G20. The list is endless.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Then maybe go ahead and dont take opinion articles written by biassed writers.. will ya chief... just some unbiased numbers to support your argument of the world having a less favorable view of the US under Obama than Bush..

Please.. this one is easy.. they do polls for stuff like this

Yeah, I guess it is all a mirage that Obama got embarrassed in Korea, embarassed in China during the last trip, is being lectured by Europe, is being told he is an obstable to peace in the ME, failing in the wars, etc.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
Jesus, sorry for not responding in 30 seconds. I'm not smashing f5 on this board. Regardless, I don't support Palin and I don't support Obama, either.

I can't be bothered to dig up polling statistics. Look around. His numbers in the Muslim world are trash. He's been rebuked by all of our allies. He embarrassed us at the G20. The list is endless.


i wasnt sayin cmon like hurry up and respind.. it was more like "c'mon son" like "you gotta be shittin me"

Im gonna see where he was rebuked by our allies.. i didnt know that.. thanks for the head up
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: tonymctones on November 24, 2010, 12:29:35 PM
But you HAVE posted the Obama 57 states, or Biden "JOBS 3 letter word" thing about 10,000 times.

So yes - Senator Obama did believe that there were 57 states, Biden cannot count past 3, and we now know that Palin wants to torpedo Seoul.
but you posted thread after thread, post after post about palin cheating on her husband...

so yes she cheated on her husband and obama is not a naturally born citizen?

karmas a bitch isnt it 240?  :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:31:14 PM
Yeah, I guess it is all a mirage that Obama got embarrassed in Korea, embarassed in China during the last trip, is being lectured by Europe, is being told he is an obstable to peace in the ME, failing in the wars, etc.   ::)  ::)


just some quick polls that we are viewed more negativley under Obama than Bush.. .. like a real quick boom.. "this is what they're feeling" kind of deal..
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:33:09 PM














Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:37:10 PM
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Fury on November 24, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
i wasnt sayin cmon like hurry up and respind.. it was more like "c'mon son" like "you gotta be shittin me"

Im gonna see where he was rebuked by our allies.. i didnt know that.. thanks for the head up

I'm referring to the fact that he went into the G20 looking to take a tough stance against China's currency fixing and ended up with us getting scolded by a dozen different countries for our handling of the dollar, among other things.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:48:18 PM
do any of those videos show a more favorable worldview of the US under Bush than Obama.. please.. do any of them have an umbiased poll taken with real numbers..
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:50:51 PM
do any of those videos show a more favorable worldview of the US under Bush than Obama.. please.. do any of them have an umbiased poll taken with real numbers..

Real numbers are the fact that russia & china are dumping the dollar, korea is shitting on obama, europe is shitting on obama, china is shitting on obama, and even castro and chavez are lauighing at obama. 

Read a newspaper for gods sake.   
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 12:51:26 PM
Real numbers are the fact that russia & china are dumping the dollar, korea is shitting on obama, europe is shitting on obama, china is shitting on obama, and even castro and chavez are lauighing at obama. 

Read a newspaper for gods sake.   

But you got a poll that supports your argument?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
But you got a poll that supports your argument?

Yeah - Putin and the Premier of China are taking polls with their money  - and guess what - OBAMA gets an F 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2010, 01:00:38 PM
Yeah - Putin and the Premier of China are taking polls with their money  - and guess what - OBAMA gets an F 

funny one.. but like a real poll that asks a question.. wait do you know what a poll is.. Statistics 101 isnt really your thing.. thats cool.. "ill just sat vote with money so i can aviod the obvious, i have zero real data to back up my idiotic claim, ill just make some shit up"

and this is where i figure that you have no real evidence that supports your claim and this argument is over.. another one for Teh Mal
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2010, 01:02:31 PM
funny one.. but like a real poll that asks a question.. wait do you know what a poll is.. Statistics 101 isnt really your thing.. thats cool.. "ill just sat vote with money so i can aviod the obvious, i have zero real data to back up my idiotic claim, ill just make some shit up"

and this is where i figure that you have no real evidence that supports your claim and this argument is over.. another one for Teh Mal

Yeah - another one or Mal - only if you ignore 99% of the current events and world news items going on right now. 

But you voted for Obama while ignoring 99% of the evidence that he was going to be a mega fail - so what else is new? 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: kcballer on November 24, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Just had to listen to this again. hahaha what a dunce this Palin is.  Our North Korean allies!

I guess it's not her fault though, it's not like she can see NK from her house.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 24KT on November 24, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
The world freaking HATES us right now even worse than under Bush. 

Obama adds chaos and instability to an already fragile situation. 

No they don't. The world is not fond of Fed policies, but the world doesn't hate the US like they did under Bush.

These days, the hatred for America my dear... is coming from Americans. A more accurate way of saying it is Americans hate themselves more these days even worse than they did under Bush. That's the truth.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 24KT on November 24, 2010, 10:36:02 PM
Just had to listen to this again. hahaha what a dunce this Palin is.  Our North Korean allies!

I guess it's not her fault though, it's not like she can see NK from her house.

No she can't see N. Korea from her house, but she could've seen it from the governor's mansion had she stayed.  :P
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on November 25, 2010, 12:21:57 AM
im pretty good at killing dumb thereass,,since im smarter than most folks at this forum and I have time from my hectic day to write this at 1 inmorning,,,sara didnot mean what she said in interview it was sidewinded and gone in a loop you see,,There IS A SPECIAL CONTRACT RIGHT NOW TO SUPPORT NORTH KOREA A PACT WE MADE UNDER BUCH ADMINISTRATION AND MANY EDUCAMACATED PEOPLE WILLKNOW THIS AND SARAH KNEW THIS,,BUT LET IT SLIP WE WERE NOT SUPPOSE TO SAY ANYTHING IT WASA CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION,,,she will be back to tell you something else she meant sarah is a pretty lady dont let her fool you
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: whork25 on November 25, 2010, 12:30:35 AM
The difference is - oh cult leader in the church of Obama, that no one has ever claimed Sarah tobe a brilliant transformational messiah like the object of your wet dreams.

Did you hear the interview live in its entirety?  Yes or no ?

Do you dream of Obama every night? Everytime there is an issue with a republican politician who has fucked up you always bring in Obama and says he has done far worse. You are actually a pretty bright guy with a lot of knowledge but you are starting to sound like a Fox News ecco, your words and opinions are not yours anymore. Its sad really
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: whork25 on November 25, 2010, 12:32:03 AM
The world freaking HATES us right now even worse than under Bush. 

Obama adds chaos and instability to an already fragile situation. 

Wrong!!
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: whork25 on November 25, 2010, 02:40:29 AM
I don't think referencing a poll conducted from November 09 to February 10 is a good barometer for where he stands right at this moment in time. Most people were still riding the Obama election high in November 2009.

You do know there is something OUTside the US right? And they dont watch much FOX news so their world/political view is quite different
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 25, 2010, 03:06:00 AM
Its the double standard that gauls me.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2010, 05:57:23 AM
Its the double standard that gauls me.

how many times did you mention 57 states?  lol
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 25, 2010, 05:58:47 AM
Usually its in response to stuff like this which is bs.   Listen to the entire interview. 

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2010, 06:12:44 AM
Usually its in response to stuff like this which is bs.   Listen to the entire interview. 

I see.  You only mention 57 states after someone else points out a repub talking point slip?  You have never used it just to mock the guy in office? 

LOL!
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 25, 2010, 06:16:51 AM
Look, it was a slip of the tongue and of course sounded off. 

However I never see you think of any of the crap from obama or biden. 

Do I think obama thinks there are 57 states?  No. 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 25, 2010, 03:24:12 PM
LOL @ Failinites on damage control for the dumb twat.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 01:28:54 AM
::)  ::)

Please - i heard the entire interview live on beck - why not post the whole interview fool?

She was in the middle of a fast flowing conversation and misspoke.  Do you want me to post equal stuff from Dear Asshole?    

You think it's just a matter of mispeaking when saying North Korea instead of South Korea?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 07:30:56 AM
A Thanksgiving Message to All 57 Statesby Sarah Palin on Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 5:46pm
My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that… 
 

 

Of course, the paragraph above is based on a series of misstatements and verbal gaffes made by Barack Obama (I didn’t have enough time to do one for Joe Biden). YouTube links are provided just in case you doubt the accuracy of these all too human slips-of-the-tongue. If you can’t remember hearing about them, that’s because for the most part the media didn’t consider them newsworthy. I have no complaint about that. Everybody makes the occasional verbal gaffe – even news anchors. 

 

Obviously, I would have been even more impressed if the media showed some consistency on this issue. Unfortunately, it seems they couldn’t resist the temptation to turn a simple one word slip-of-the-tongue of mine into a major political headline. The one word slip occurred yesterday during one of my seven back-to-back interviews wherein I was privileged to speak to the American public about the important, world-changing issues before us.

 

If the media had bothered to actually listen to all of my remarks on Glenn Beck’s radio show, they would have noticed that I refer to South Korea as our ally throughout, that I corrected myself seconds after my slip-of-the-tongue, and that I made it abundantly clear that pressure should be put on China to restrict energy exports to the North Korean regime. The media could even have done due diligence and checked my previous statements on the subject, which have always been consistent, and in fact even ahead of the curve. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story? (And for that matter, why not just make up stories out of thin air – like the totally false hard news story which has run for three days now reporting that I lobbied the producers of “Dancing with the Stars” to cast a former Senate candidate on their show. That lie is further clear proof that the media completely makes things up without doing even rudimentary fact-checking.)

 

“Hope springs eternal” as the poet says. Let’s hope that perhaps, just maybe, they might get it right next time. When we the people are effective in holding America’s free press accountable for responsible and truthful reporting, then we shall all have even more to be thankful for!

 

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

 

- Sarah Palin

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Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2010, 07:54:51 AM
It's cute that she thinks so little of what the lainstream media thinks of her - that she takes the time to carefully write a 600-word response (complete with youtube links for reference) to dispense with their meaningless attacks.


The lady doth protest a little too much...

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 08:02:10 AM
It's cute that she thinks so little of what the lainstream media thinks of her - that she takes the time to carefully write a 600-word response (complete with youtube links for reference) to dispense with their meaningless attacks.


The lady doth protest a little too much...



Its all about the double standards you refuse to apply to your hero becaus yu bought into the false narrative of him being some transformational genius too brilliant for the masses to truly appreciate. 

Yeah - where are his SAT scores or writings?  What is his LSAT Score?  Where is his Columbia college transcript showing he was qualified for Harvard Law? 


hhhhmmmmm?   
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2010, 08:07:50 AM
Its all about the double standards you refuse to apply to your hero becaus yu bought into the false narrative of him being some transformational genius too brilliant for the masses to truly appreciate. 

Yeah - where are his SAT scores or writings?  What is his LSAT Score?  Where is his Columbia college transcript showing he was qualified for Harvard Law? 


hhhhmmmmm?   

It's cute that I make a valid point about someone who supposedly doesn't care - going out of her way to show she clearly does....

and that you respond by talking shit about Obama.




You don't like Obama, I get that.  but what do you think about the post I made which you quoted - do you think palin cares about what the lamestream media says, or not?
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 08:14:24 AM
It's cute that I make a valid point about someone who supposedly doesn't care - going out of her way to show she clearly does....

and that you respond by talking shit about Obama.




You don't like Obama, I get that.  but what do you think about the post I made which you quoted - do you think palin cares about what the lamestream media says, or not?


240 - I agree with you that she still has a long way to go before she can even be considred electable.  I aree with that.  What I disagree with is the double standard that is applied to her vs Obama.  And that is based upon a false narrative that Obaa is some type of brilliant genius and when he screws up, oh its nothing o course. 

When she does it - it reinforces the narrative that she is a dunce and has no clue. 

See 240 - its all about the narraive you buy in to. 

Personally, I think both are dopes but I agree with her on the issues, especially energy policy.     
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 08:27:12 AM
240 - I agree with you that she still has a long way to go before she can even be considred electable.  I aree with that.  What I disagree with is the double standard that is applied to her vs Obama.  And that is based upon a false narrative that Obaa is some type of brilliant genius and when he screws up, oh its nothing o course. 

When she does it - it reinforces the narrative that she is a dunce and has no clue. 

See 240 - its all about the narraive you buy in to. 

Personally, I think both are dopes but I agree with her on the issues, especially energy policy.     

Did she actually put together a bunch of Obama "gaffes"?

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 08:35:26 AM
240 - I agree with you that she still has a long way to go before she can even be considred electable.  I aree with that.  What I disagree with is the double standard that is applied to her vs Obama.  And that is based upon a false narrative that Obaa is some type of brilliant genius and when he screws up, oh its nothing o course. 

When she does it - it reinforces the narrative that she is a dunce and has no clue. 

See 240 - its all about the narraive you buy in to. 

Personally, I think both are dopes but I agree with her on the issues, especially energy policy.     

Did she actually put together a bunch of Obama "gaffes"?

I mean, I have always thought Palin was unfairly treated by the media. And I still think she is I might add.

There is the sexist perspective, and she gets a lot of questions that no male politician, or for that matter a "neutral" looking female would get.

Many of the supposed flaws she has, I think are non-issues. Eg, anything that pertains to her family isn't any of our business IMO.

But this time is different, I actually think it is more than disturbing that she gets North and South Korea mixed up.

I somewhat starts to wonder if there is some truth to that she is incompetent.

I don't like the idea that someone who is a average Joe would be a president.

Like them or hate them - George Bush SR (not jr!) , Clinton, Obama, and of course the brilliant Nixon, were all bright fellows.

Nixon was awfully corrupt, but still a brilliant thinker.

At least I don't want someone who isn't able to comprehend big issues at the most important job in the world.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 08:38:04 AM
Obama knows how to come across and sound bright - but if you look at his actual off teleprompter statements, the opposite becomes very apparent very quickly. 

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2010, 08:38:32 AM
Did she actually put together a bunch of Obama "gaffes"?

Not only did she assemble a list, but then she attemped a message-board quality "owning" by pretending to adress the nation from his shoes.  

Not that I believe she wrote it.  But even posting it - she's resorting to playing the same 'gotcha' games that she claims to dislike.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2010, 08:42:57 AM
I don't like the idea that someone who is a average Joe would be a president.

Like them or hate them - George Bush SR (not jr!) , Clinton, Obama, and of course the brilliant Nixon, were all bright fellows.  Nixon was awfully corrupt, but still a brilliant thinker.

At least I don't want someone who isn't able to comprehend big issues at the most important job in the world.


I would add that I think Bush2 was a smart man.  He was simple - but in terms of business and "knowing what had to be done for longterm US interests".... as well as connecting with people - he was smart.

Bush spoke way faster as governor, and actually apperered to be a lot brighter (no cocaine jokes please).  He slowed down as prez - maybe it was the earpiece that gave him the lines in 5-second spurts, maybe it was just a technique to appeal to older voters and the sub-80 IQ folks.

Either way, I'd say those presidents were VERy smart, and needed to be, to comprehend the litany of problems which they face.  I do not think palin has this mental power.  She's a great rallying person.  She can pack an auditorium.  But so is britney Spears.  And I would not want her in a staredown against China either...
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 08:44:28 AM
Obama knows how to come across and sound bright - but if you look at his actual off teleprompter statements, the opposite becomes very apparent very quickly. 




I actually think a lot of people dislike Obama because they see him as being "too clever" and like he's not like a common guy.


With George W Bush, you had a guy who loved baseball, had a drinking problem, former drug addict, maybe not the sharpest knife in the tool box.
Very likeable.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 08:52:36 AM

I actually think a lot of people dislike Obama because they see him as being "too clever" and like he's not like a common guy.


With George W Bush, you had a guy who loved baseball, had a drinking problem, former drug addict, maybe not the sharpest knife in the tool box.
Very likeable.



With Obama - he gets away with that attitude because he knows most people are not informed enough to decipher his lies, bullshit, and mistakes and/or are too cowardly to call him out on it. 

Case in point.    He lied through his fucking teeth to promote an agenda and thought no one else kow about this.   Even the Board of Surgeons called him out on his lies.     

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 08:57:02 AM

I would add that I think Bush2 was a smart man.  He was simple - but in terms of business and "knowing what had to be done for longterm US interests".... as well as connecting with people - he was smart.

Bush spoke way faster as governor, and actually apperered to be a lot brighter (no cocaine jokes please).  He slowed down as prez - maybe it was the earpiece that gave him the lines in 5-second spurts, maybe it was just a technique to appeal to older voters and the sub-80 IQ folks.

Either way, I'd say those presidents were VERy smart, and needed to be, to comprehend the litany of problems which they face.  I do not think palin has this mental power.  She's a great rallying person.  She can pack an auditorium.  But so is britney Spears.  And I would not want her in a staredown against China either...

Knowing what to had to be done in long term for US interests?

Are you insane?

Or are you just fucking kidding me? ;)

The US-Russian relations froze up during Bush.

Right now NATO and Russia are actually planning a united anti-missile shield.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 08:59:59 AM

I actually think a lot of people dislike Obama because they see him as being "too clever" and like he's not like a common guy.


With George W Bush, you had a guy who loved baseball, had a drinking problem, former drug addict, maybe not the sharpest knife in the tool box.
Very likeable.


I hope to hell this is complete bullshit.  I can only speak for myself; this is not remotely close to why I have turned against Obama.  Obama has absolutely crossed against the biggest of his campaign promises.  He put himself forward as a person who would restore respect to the constitution....  Hell's Bells he has ::)  He put himself forward as a person who would reign in corporate control of washington....  yea, that turned out to be the opposite ::)  Everything he said has turned out to be a total lie.  It goes on and on with this guy, he's a complete tool for the criminals he promised to bring to an end...  Obama is a fucking joke on so many levels and IT DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING THING TO DO WITH STUPID PERCEPTIONS!!!  at least for those with more than 3 brain cells still intact ::)
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 09:00:51 AM

I would add that I think Bush2 was a smart man.  He was simple - but in terms of business and "knowing what had to be done for longterm US interests".... as well as connecting with people - he was smart.

Bush spoke way faster as governor, and actually apperered to be a lot brighter (no cocaine jokes please).  He slowed down as prez - maybe it was the earpiece that gave him the lines in 5-second spurts, maybe it was just a technique to appeal to older voters and the sub-80 IQ folks.

Either way, I'd say those presidents were VERy smart, and needed to be, to comprehend the litany of problems which they face.  I do not think palin has this mental power.  She's a great rallying person.  She can pack an auditorium.  But so is britney Spears.  And I would not want her in a staredown against China either...



And the whole issue about issuing tax cuts and spending more money during a economic boom - lets not get into that. Bush 2 didn't balance one single budget. Despite having a gigantic economic boom at his hands.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
I hope to hell this is complete bullshit.  I can only speak for myself; this is not remotely close to why I have turned against Obama.  Obama has absolutely crossed against the biggest of his campaign promises.  He put himself forward as a person who would restore respect to the constitution....  Hell's Bells he has ::)  He put himself forward as a person who would reign in corporate control of washington....  yea, that turned out to be the opposite ::)  Everything he said has turned out to be a total lie.  It goes on and on with this guy, he's a complete tool for the criminals he promised to bring to an end...  Obama is a fucking joke on so many levels and IT DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING THING TO DO WITH STUPID PERCEPTIONS!!!  at least for those with more than 3 brain cells still intact ::)

Hugo - this is what it is all about.  Check this out. 

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Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 09:05:50 AM
I hope to hell this is complete bullshit.  I can only speak for myself; this is not remotely close to why I have turned against Obama.  Obama has absolutely crossed against the biggest of his campaign promises.  He put himself forward as a person who would restore respect to the constitution....  Hell's Bells he has ::)  He put himself forward as a person who would reign in corporate control of washington....  yea, that turned out to be the opposite ::)  Everything he said has turned out to be a total lie.  It goes on and on with this guy, he's a complete tool for the criminals he promised to bring to an end...  Obama is a fucking joke on so many levels and IT DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING THING TO DO WITH STUPID PERCEPTIONS!!!  at least for those with more than 3 brain cells still intact ::)


Lets face it - many people voted FOR Obama for the "wrong" reasons.

They wanted a "brother" in the white house (Whassup Big Mal! ;D)
They wanted someone who brought "change"
They wanted an outsider.
They wanted a "cool" guy for once.

These people will vote GOP if the GOP are able to find a candidate who fits the description. You know this.

Lets say Denzel Washington would run as a GOP candidate. He would get lots of these fan boy votes in an instant.

It's similar to some of the votes that Sarah Palin get.

Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 26, 2010, 09:16:07 AM
Back to topic though - I think Palin is making it even worse by trying to comparing it to other people's mistakes.

It's like she's not even grasping that it's a big difference between South and North Korea.

Sort of like she lacks a fundamental understanding of international conflicts.

She should either shut up.

Or come up with some type of explanation about not being wellinformed on foreign topics as she focus on USA and its citizens foremost! ;D
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 09:23:22 AM

Lets face it - many people voted FOR Obama for the "wrong" reasons.

They wanted a "brother" in the white house (Whassup Big Mal! ;D)
They wanted someone who brought "change"
They wanted an outsider.
They wanted a "cool" guy for once.

These people will vote GOP if the GOP are able to find a candidate who fits the description. You know this.

Lets say Denzel Washington would run as a GOP candidate. He would get lots of these fan boy votes in an instant.

It's similar to some of the votes that Sarah Palin get.



NO ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!  THAT IS PURE URBAN LEGEND BULLSHIT.

We didn't vote for him for the wrong reasons, we voted for him for the right reasons--reasons he lied about!!!!

No, we did not want a brother in the white house, at that time we didn't give a fucking shit, we were ready for the best choice that would be opposite of what Bush had given us.  That was Obama... for the most part it had nothing to do with race.  Yes I know there were people that voted on their race or for his race but I spent so much time with so many people talking to so many during that time that I can say this was not the end factor....  Not remotely so...

Yes, we did want someone who would bring change and Obama did a better job of convincing the people he was the person to do that, which turned out to be BS....

No, we didn't want an outsider, we wanted someone who would keep their goddamned fucking promises... Obama gave the best image of that and it turned out to be the biggest campaign lie of recent American history.

I do admit, some idiots vote for the "cool guy" but many do not and the cool factor was not with me and many I know.  Yet I do admit, there are many idiots that show up to the polls and vote on the "cool guy" ::)  But keep in mind that those type of people don't go to the polls as much as people who are paying attention and care about our process....  So I do not think they are the majority.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 09:24:18 AM
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 09:26:22 AM



Listening now, I don't agree with everything, but his comments on the psycological shit obama supporters go to defend thisadmn is spot on. 

They still believe in Brand Obama vs reality Obama. 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 09:30:52 AM

Listening now, I don't agree with everything, but his comments on the psycological shit obama supporters go to defend thisadmn is spot on.  

They still believe in Brand Obama vs reality Obama.  
I totally understand why you would not agree with everything Pilger says, no problem....  I really like the guy but I see why you would have issues.  Not to mention the speech is at a commie socialist event. ;D
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 09:54:19 AM

for those who need extremely simplified cliff notes, he said, "and all that's fake"
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 09:55:51 AM
He made some good points - but I would like to see the speech this guy gives a year later.  This is over a year old right? 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 26, 2010, 10:05:56 AM
He made some good points - but I would like to see the speech this guy gives a year later.  This is over a year old right? 
You should know the speech he would give a year later would be even worse for Obama.  Yes, this is over a year old, he made this early in Obama's first year before anyone who voted for him started turning against him.  And it is spot on today with what he said back then. 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 10:08:16 AM
You should know the speech he would give a year later would be even worse for Obama.  Yes, this is over a year old, he made this early in Obama's first year before anyone who voted for him started turning against him.  And it is spot on today with what he said back then. 

True - but a lot has happened since. 
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Danny on November 26, 2010, 04:37:01 PM
What's troubling is the fact  she did not know anything regarding the geography of the Korean Peninsula during the 08 campaign , so to say this was a slip of the tongue does not add up, it is lack of knowledge in my opinion, and Beck helped her because he probably cringed when he realised what she said.Bottom line the woman is freakin clueless and this is a pretty major gaffe to make for a serious politician who's trying to present himself/herself as our next President. :-\
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 26, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Did you listen to the entire interview?   
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Danny on November 26, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
McCain Campaign manager Steve Schmidt claimed, “She knew nothing. She had to be taken through World War I, World War II, the Cold War, and Palin was not aware there was a difference between North and South Korea. She continued to insist that Iraq was behind 9/11; and when her son was being sent off to Iraq, she couldn’t describe who we were fighting.”

bada bing bada boom  ;D
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 24KT on November 26, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
I hope to hell this is complete bullshit.  I can only speak for myself; this is not remotely close to why I have turned against Obama.  Obama has absolutely crossed against the biggest of his campaign promises.  He put himself forward as a person who would restore respect to the constitution....  Hell's Bells he has ::)  He put himself forward as a person who would reign in corporate control of washington....  yea, that turned out to be the opposite ::)  Everything he said has turned out to be a total lie.  It goes on and on with this guy, he's a complete tool for the criminals he promised to bring to an end...  Obama is a fucking joke on so many levels and IT DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING THING TO DO WITH STUPID PERCEPTIONS!!!  at least for those with more than 3 brain cells still intact ::)

QFT!!!
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 24KT on November 26, 2010, 07:16:04 PM

Lets face it - many people voted FOR Obama for the "wrong" reasons.

They wanted a "brother" in the white house (Whassup Big Mal! ;D)
They wanted someone who brought "change"
They wanted an outsider.
They wanted a "cool" guy for once.

These people will vote GOP if the GOP are able to find a candidate who fits the description. You know this.

Lets say Denzel Washington would run as a GOP candidate. He would get lots of these fan boy votes in an instant.

It's similar to some of the votes that Sarah Palin get.


Hedge I think those are all peripherals. I think people voted for Obama for two reasons:

1) He wasn't Bush or Mccain, and no one wanted that Palin creature within a stone's throw of the WH

2) He made them believe he was the right man who would effect the change that was needed.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: 24KT on November 26, 2010, 07:20:47 PM
NO ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!  THAT IS PURE URBAN LEGEND BULLSHIT.

We didn't vote for him for the wrong reasons, we voted for him for the right reasons--reasons he lied about!!!!

No, we did not want a brother in the white house, at that time we didn't give a fucking shit, we were ready for the best choice that would be opposite of what Bush had given us.  That was Obama... for the most part it had nothing to do with race.  Yes I know there were people that voted on their race or for his race but I spent so much time with so many people talking to so many during that time that I can say this was not the end factor....  Not remotely so...

Yes, we did want someone who would bring change and Obama did a better job of convincing the people he was the person to do that, which turned out to be BS....

No, we didn't want an outsider, we wanted someone who would keep their goddamned fucking promises... Obama gave the best image of that and it turned out to be the biggest campaign lie of recent American history.

I do admit, some idiots vote for the "cool guy" but many do not and the cool factor was not with me and many I know.  Yet I do admit, there are many idiots that show up to the polls and vote on the "cool guy" ::)  But keep in mind that those type of people don't go to the polls as much as people who are paying attention and care about our process....  So I do not think they are the majority.

QFT!!!

A lot of people the world over have been punked!

Today a friend photoshopped a picture of me & Obama together, ...and I almost threw up in my mouth a little.
I didn't want to say anything to him to offend him because he's a bit of an int'l VIP, but I could taste the bile.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Hedgehog on November 27, 2010, 06:54:43 AM
I had trouble believing the reports from the McCain camp about Palin being totally uneducated.

Considered it much to be sour grapes.

But this "stand with our North Korean allies" spectacle makes me think maybe there is some truth to what they claimed.

I doubt you would get Giuliani or McCain speaking about North Korea, or even George W Bush as an ally.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 27, 2010, 06:59:42 AM
Other than the fact that she spoke on the issue prior to this. 

Typical liberal double standards.
Title: Re: AUDIO: Sarah Palin: “We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies”
Post by: Danny on November 27, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Other than the fact that she spoke on the issue prior to this. 



That might be true but all the talk seems to be the type of knowledge that's been spoon fed to her and I don't buy it that she comprehends what she's actually saying :-\