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Gh15,
Can you give me drugs needed to look like kuclo kid did at 18. I am same age as he was in this video. I have ran test and dbol but do not look this good!
was he on gh/slin here too? troponin and danta claim he was natural.
here is video from 2005
what bloated face troppin say or lieing wacko datnta say dont matter,,
the reaility is that kuklo was on drugs then ,,not insnulin ,,the physiqe you are talking about is build on test ,,equipoise,, tren at lower levels and masteron some add anapolon or superdrol for the kick and fullnes,,what differ this physiqe with the more advance physiqe is doses and the addition of high doses gh and insulin
rest assure this is not NOT natural lifter,,always as gh15 say ALWAYS LOOK TO THE DELTS TO THE TRAPS AND TO THE FORARMS,,HE IS THICK ENOUGH FOR HORMONIZED USER,,HIS BODY FAT IS LOW YET HE MAINTAIN THICKNESS,,HIS DELTS ARE THICK AND HIS PHYSIQE IS THICK,,THIS CAN ONLY COME FROM SYNTETIC HORMONES AT THIS BODYFAT LEVELS
he has oil basically coming out of his skin like he is an oil fsactory,,,kid is oiling ,,in any case the natural numbers of kuklo is somewhere at 185 10%,,that if he was natural but kuklo is long long gone ,,he always wanted to be jason cutler and he did what it took from younnnnng age,,
Y O U N G AGE,,
never the less off hormones for a year and he is back to 180 12%
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Dude has come a long way in person he's fucking huge...hell no he isn't natty in the video.
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Dude has come a long way in person he's fucking huge...hell no he isn't natty in the video.
mutated
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thats a body of a guy who is getting progressively heavier with the anabolics
moderate test dose, probably a short ester being that he was precontest..........and some different anaboloics
from my eyes, in this video he deos not look tobe using GH or insulin yet
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What is his race? He says white but he doesn't look like any white guy I've ever seen.
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for anyone wondering about the 'moderate dose' that he is on there
im talking moderate for an upper level bodybuilder
to weekend warriors on this board, including myself..............it would be considered a "lot"
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What is his race? He says white but he doesn't look like any white guy I've ever seen.
reptile
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What is his race? He says white but he doesn't look like any white guy I've ever seen.
probably has some american indian in him, or hispanic and some italian
but your right, he is a weird looking.......for a guy whose skin is that white color, it like he has the wrong features......
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no big parents,,small to average size,,his growth is a reuslt of drugs then again all bodybuilding is one big drug pharma,,he respond well to drugs but! not top tier respond when it come to shape,,size maybe yet to see,,shape no,,not top tier shape
gh15 approved
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He's developed quite the southern drawl from living in Texas...from that video to current ones. ::)
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Hey GH15 who around here has more clout you or Priest?Seems your little rant on the Dwarf got DELETED how come?? ;)
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look fellas,,
the main idea behind modern bodybuildign is the use of high doses of gh,,thats the only reason we sit and eat shit load of food,,otheerwise most bodybuilder just overeat,,
i keep saying to you that the main reason fella like steve kukelo look like he look now is hgh,,big dose of it,,but if you look at him and other bodybuilder...its all look same,,the abdominal is defined and protruding the skin through midsection,, the delts are very round and meaty with good fiber muscle that is saturated with aas,,and same for other bodyparts,,
hgh IS the most important drug in bodybuilder arsenal nowday because that is only reason you ee 220 single digits running around at aversage height,,
for not to forget! the fellas from 50 60 70 they were smaller bodybuillder they were 185 5'9 or 220 6'1,,they were running around the 200lb mark and also the ones who were sucesful did it early in 20s and the pool was small ,,the pool who succeeded had high natural gh in body and even with that could usually limit at 200lb average height when takin out the lies about the true weight ofcourse since it was all exagerated by good 10 -15 lb due to condition of being chizeled ,,then condition was the name of the game,,nothing but condition
nowday ,,it is different,,EVERY ONE CAN LOOK LIKE KUKELO,,HE IS NOT SPECIAL BY ANYMEAN,,HE JUST A FELLA THAT HAD THE MONEY AND OR SPONSOR TO UP THE DOSES OF HGH INTO THE 10-20IU ZONE AND WITH IT THE AAS DOSES
very simple concep,,he responded well but all will on legit doses of the such of hgh,,all will,,the hard thing is to do it with out gh and thats when genetic respond marvel at early 20s come,,but todsay they are nowhere to be found because the bodybuilder discover syntetic gh and know about it from young age,,
for not to forget,,the bodybuilder is a very quiet shady into himself type of animal,,the one who talk usually dont go far,,the one who stay quiet has chance to advance,,thats the key,,so they find about hgh and start getting on it and grow
they go 5 iu see they grow well,,they go 10 see they grow very well,,go 15 and see the all physiqe takin a mutant level,,oofcourse the nastyness will nto come with out trenbolona and testosterona so the formula for nasty mutant = gh at high dose,, testosterona ,,trenbolona,,and equipona and masterona for over all steady solidification and polishization of the new lean muscle gained by the gh testosterona and masterona
it is very very simple formula that the ones who follow from young age go forword and become o competitors,,they defenitely fight on pro cards,,the ones who dont stuck in muscular devlop and become stuff writer like i forgot his name glasses fella ron something,,he just started too late and didnt have approach to all the sruff not knowledge and most importantly his respond wasnt phenominal but as said ,,in his day it had to be phenominal ,,now day you have gh at high doses affordable to many and genetic go out the window since everyone respond to 15+ iu gh ,,everyone ,,you become a lean mean beasty freaky muscle machine,,large one with new surface on your body thats why i call it MUTATION
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Gh15, what doses would you recommand for pupil Stavios for the steroids above ?
Pupil Stavios is doing 10iu of hgh per day
so would this be ok near the show ?
500mg testerona
400mg trenbolona
600mg equipona
600mg masterona
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Gh15, what doses would you recommand for pupil Stavios for the steroids above ?
Pupil Stavios is doing 10iu of hgh per day
so would this be ok near the show ?
500mg testerona
400mg trenbolona
600mg equipona
600mg masterona
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I see your upping the "GH" dosages ;D
Are you using testosterona ,,trenbolona,,and equipona and masterona ?
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I see your upping the "GH" dosages ;D
Are you using testosterona ,,trenbolona,,and equipona and masterona ?
no right now I am only on 2 cc of shitty test400 per week, I am waiting for my 100 omnadrens to come in this week or early next week.
I started the GHona yesterday, I shot myself 10 iu right when I got out of the post office in my car 8)
this morning I shot 5iu and I'll shoot 5iu later today
I am bulking, and my show is in june so I am gonna start the trenbolona, equipona and masterona around april, with maybe some anavarona (I like that drug)
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no right now I am only on 2 cc of shitty test400 per week, I am waiting for my 100 omnadrens to come in this week or early next week.
I started the GHona yesterday, I shot myself 10 iu right when I got out of the post office in my car 8)
this morning I shot 5iu and I'll shoot 5iu later today
I am bulking, and my show is in june so I am gonna start the trenbolona, equipona and masterona around april, with maybe some anavarona (I like that drug)
Why no oxymetolona? Thickness without the testo bloat. And if it did bloat you you can shed the water quickly. You have a wide frame and don't seem to have problems getting lean or bloating... oxymetolona can give you a nice thick look.
If Anapolon isn't available Jinan Anemoxic is a good product IME.
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Hell yeah!!!
NASTY MUTANT!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
;D ;D ;D
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so gh15 basicly what your saying is those who are very impressive on AAS only have high natural levels of gh in the body and or great gentic response to anabolics.
But with gh everyone responds to that ....hence guys rocking impressive physiques who have very average response to steroids because of gh???
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no right now I am only on 2 cc of shitty test400 per week, I am waiting for my 100 omnadrens to come in this week or early next week.
I started the GHona yesterday, I shot myself 10 iu right when I got out of the post office in my car 8)
this morning I shot 5iu and I'll shoot 5iu later today
I am bulking, and my show is in june so I am gonna start the trenbolona, equipona and masterona around april, with maybe some anavarona (I like that drug)
Good choice..remember that Anavar is called oxandrolona overseas..
We do we feel high after injections of steriods? I remember my first Nandrolona Shot, i felt high instantly... ;D
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Stav,why not throw in some macarona (+cheese) ? lol ;D
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2247797523_222ae4a1b8.jpg?v=0)
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probably has some american indian in him, or hispanic and some italian
but your right, he is a weird looking.......for a guy whose skin is that white color, it like he has the wrong features......
i saw in an interview he is ukranian. I originally thought the dude was part asian or something. very strange face.
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Why no oxymetolona? Thickness without the testo bloat. And if it did bloat you you can shed the water quickly. You have a wide frame and don't seem to have problems getting lean or bloating... oxymetolona can give you a nice thick look.
If Anapolon isn't available Jinan Anemoxic is a good product IME.
yop this might be a good idea, I'll play around with the compounds when I am lean enough (I should be around 6%bf in april so I'll have 2 months to fuck around with the products ;D)
I did the good thing by losing most of the fat this year, now I can experiment a little bit 8)
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Why no oxymetolona? Thickness without the testo bloat. And if it did bloat you you can shed the water quickly. You have a wide frame and don't seem to have problems getting lean or bloating... oxymetolona can give you a nice thick look.
If Anapolon isn't available Jinan Anemoxic is a good product IME.
Interesting, im needing to add my thickness and im not wanting to take high doses of Test, how many mg per day would be a good dose and many weeks?
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Interesting, im needing to add my thickness and im not wanting to take high doses of Test, how many mg per day would be a good dose and many weeks?
Have you used it before? Try 50mg to start, then maybe try 100mg. If for a show I would start maybe 8 weeks out. If too puffy 2 weeks out it can be dropped and switched to Halo, Winny, Anavar or whatever product you have found adds polish best. Or all gear can be dropped period, it really depends on what works best for you. If you look tight 2 weeks out you can just continue it all the way and perhaps even increase a bit last few days to be as full as possible.
Of course some just use it for a few days to fill out. Lots of different opinions and ways to run it. :D
But if you're one of those guys who use an oral all through prep I think using the most potent oral is the best idea, especially if you like to grow into a show.
gh15's best cycle was the 'ona-stack plus 250mg of oxy but I wouldn't recommend such a dosage, 50-100mg is very potent. It's hard to compare drug to drug but 50mg could give as much weight and thickness as 1000mg of test a week in some guys. I'm sure doing that much would work great but it is potentially toxic, so...
I'm not sure Anadrol is necessarily more dangerous than a stack of Anavar and Winstrol like Stavios wanted to do, and he thought of doing a total of 200mg a day of the two for many weeks. It's too much if safety is very important IMO.
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Gh15, what doses would you recommand for pupil Stavios for the steroids above ?
Pupil Stavios is doing 10iu of hgh per day
so would this be ok near the show ?
500mg testerona
400mg trenbolona
600mg equipona
600mg masterona
??
gh15 is going to turn you pro next year?
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Have you used it before? Try 50mg to start, then maybe try 100mg. If for a show I would start maybe 8 weeks out. If too puffy 2 weeks out it can be dropped and switched to Halo, Winny, Anavar or whatever product you have found adds polish best. Or all gear can be dropped period, it really depends on what works best for you. If you look tight 2 weeks out you can just continue it all the way and perhaps even increase a bit last few days to be as full as possible.
Of course some just use it for a few days to fill out. Lots of different opinions and ways to run it. :D
But if you're one of those guys who use an oral all through prep I think using the most potent oral is the best idea, especially if you like to grow into a show.
gh15's best cycle was the 'ona-stack plus 250mg of oxy but I wouldn't recommend such a dosage, 50-100mg is very potent. It's hard to compare drug to drug but 50mg could give as much weight and thickness as 1000mg of test a week in some guys. I'm sure doing that much would work great but it is potentially toxic, so...
I'm not sure Anadrol is necessarily more dangerous than a stack of Anavar and Winstrol like Stavios wanted to do, and he thought of doing a total of 200mg a day of the two for many weeks. It's too much if safety is very important IMO.
van, your not buying into all this crap about special stacks and combos are you?
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van, your not buying into all this crap about special stacks and combos are you?
Dude, I'm the one who said "all steroids pretty much work the same". :D
Cosmetically there are definite differences. They also make you feel different. Some feel like shit on Anadrol but feel great on Dbol. Some like the appetite reduction on Androl during dieting. A few like that it makes you sleepy, doesn't disturb sleep in the same manner as tren. And so on.
Cosmetically Anadrol is different from Winstrol for a contest shape bodybuilder. Anadrol will make most look thicker. It doesn't seem to cause edema like test in many either.
tbombz, if you were to start prepping for a show tomorrow you would stack, wouldn't you? :D
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when you prep for a show you turn into an idiot
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Dude, I'm the one who said "all steroids pretty much work the same". :D
Cosmetically there are definite differences. They also make you feel different. Some feel like shit on Anadrol but feel great on Dbol. Some like the appetite reduction on Androl during dieting. A few like that it makes you sleepy, doesn't disturb sleep in the same manner as tren. And so on.
Cosmetically Anadrol is different from Winstrol for a contest shape bodybuilder. Anadrol will make most look thicker. It doesn't seem to cause edema like test in many either.
tbombz, if you were to start prepping for a show tomorrow you would stack, wouldn't you? :D
If i had everything available to me id run test tren and gh, drop the test and gh a few weeks out and double or triple the tren to compensate.
i dont disagree that different roids have different effects, but i really dont like where the sentiment on this board has been going lately. steroids are absoilutely essential, however they arent the only factor, and the secret doesnt lie in a combo of eq, mast, tren and test or any other secret stack or doseage.. its all about consistancy , progessive overload, and food. with a special emphasis on progressive overload, and that is something that gh15 never talks about and none of his "disciples" seem to understand either.. and in my opinion its the reason why so many guys juice for years and never end up looking like the pro's. they dont train hard, they dont gain strength, they fuck around punping up their msucles with light weights thinking juice will do all thee work, and when theyu arent making progress they wanna blame their stack or the fact that their is some unkown secret out there. pro's become pros because they com,bine consistancy with drugs and consistancy in the gym, not just simply because of drugs.every huge bodybuilder can lift huge weights. these gusy think they can get huge without lifting huige weights. and thats not going to happen.
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Have you used it before? Try 50mg to start, then maybe try 100mg. If for a show I would start maybe 8 weeks out. If too puffy 2 weeks out it can be dropped and switched to Halo, Winny, Anavar or whatever product you have found adds polish best. Or all gear can be dropped period, it really depends on what works best for you. If you look tight 2 weeks out you can just continue it all the way and perhaps even increase a bit last few days to be as full as possible.
Of course some just use it for a few days to fill out. Lots of different opinions and ways to run it. :D
But if you're one of those guys who use an oral all through prep I think using the most potent oral is the best idea, especially if you like to grow into a show.
gh15's best cycle was the 'ona-stack plus 250mg of oxy but I wouldn't recommend such a dosage, 50-100mg is very potent. It's hard to compare drug to drug but 50mg could give as much weight and thickness as 1000mg of test a week in some guys. I'm sure doing that much would work great but it is potentially toxic, so...
I'm not sure Anadrol is necessarily more dangerous than a stack of Anavar and Winstrol like Stavios wanted to do, and he thought of doing a total of 200mg a day of the two for many weeks. It's too much if safety is very important IMO.
Yes i used it before, 100mg per day for 4 weeks, so you think 8 weeks would be better leading into a contest, i liked Anadrol when i used it but i think i didnt use it long enough to reallt get the benefits, thank you for the advice :)
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If i had everything available to me id run test tren and gh, drop the test and gh a few weeks out and double or triple the tren to compensate.
i dont disagree that different roids have different effects, but i really dont like where the sentiment on this board has been going lately. steroids are absoilutely essential, however they arent the only factor, and the secret doesnt lie in a combo of eq, mast, tren and test or any other secret stack or doseage.. its all about consistancy , progessive overload, and food. with a special emphasis on progressive overload, and that is something that gh15 never talks about and none of his "disciples" seem to understand either.. and in my opinion its the reason why so many guys juice for years and never end up looking like the pro's. they dont train hard, they dont gain strength, they fuck around punping up their msucles with light weights thinking juice will do all thee work, and when theyu arent making progress they wanna blame their stack or the fact that their is some unkown secret out there. pro's become pros because they com,bine consistancy with drugs and consistancy in the gym, not just simply because of drugs.every huge bodybuilder can lift huge weights. these gusy think they can get huge without lifting huige weights. and thats not going to happen.
I definitely agree that progressive overload is important. Said it many many times. I've even said that Dante, who's attitude I don't like, is completely right in what he says about this.
However, "letting the drugs do the work" may not be so stupid in a way. I've completely wrecked my body by "training hard". Had I relied more on drugs and not trained so "hard" I would probably be a bodybuilder nowadays. Some people are more injury resistant and only in retrospect do you know where your limits lie.
If it weren't for the injury factor heavy training would beat "pumping" ALWAYS. Think of Ronnie doing those reckless bouncing front squats - these no amount of pumping that would give that hypertrophy stimulus. But even Ronnie, with crazy injury resistance, was stopped by injuries, well before the muscle itself stopped responding.
I saw where you said injury is only due to bad form and doing things wrong, not the weight per se. I gotta disagree. Especially coupled with hormone intake heavy loads will lead to injury eventually. There is no way to predict when it happens, one day you're feeling great, thinking you're careful and doing things right, and you hear a tearing sound. :'(
Vince Taylor looked fantastic doing his pumping style. There's no doubt he would have been even bigger had he focused more on getting stronger in the target rep range. But who knows, maybe his career would have been cut short by 10 years? Or maybe he would have been Mr O?
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Just change the sword into a syringe and have him yell out, 'By the POWER of Steroids"...
haha
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If i had everything available to me id run test tren and gh, drop the test and gh a few weeks out and double or triple the tren to compensate.
i dont disagree that different roids have different effects, but i really dont like where the sentiment on this board has been going lately. steroids are absoilutely essential, however they arent the only factor, and the secret doesnt lie in a combo of eq, mast, tren and test or any other secret stack or doseage.. its all about consistancy , progessive overload, and food. with a special emphasis on progressive overload, and that is something that gh15 never talks about and none of his "disciples" seem to understand either.. and in my opinion its the reason why so many guys juice for years and never end up looking like the pro's. they dont train hard, they dont gain strength, they fuck around punping up their msucles with light weights thinking juice will do all thee work, and when theyu arent making progress they wanna blame their stack or the fact that their is some unkown secret out there. pro's become pros because they com,bine consistancy with drugs and consistancy in the gym, not just simply because of drugs.every huge bodybuilder can lift huge weights. these gusy think they can get huge without lifting huige weights. and thats not going to happen.
wrong my friend,,
the truth is and its a sad truth but its the only truth about bodybuilding,,
the use of GH IS CRITICAL,,NONE OF THE OLD TIMERS WILL TELL YOU SO,,but if you read between coaches words,,you will understand he was aware of bodybuilders experiementing with it along the 70! i know it in the early 80s but you get the idea,,
bodybuilding ,,modern bodybuilding,,is all abot wether you have gh in system ,,AND THEN HOW MUCH GH YOU HAVE IN SYSTEM,,
you have no need in nothing else,,you can practically play with weights,,you can never touch the free weight bench zone in gym you can only work hammer and have the best chest in the world,,
it all depend on your size and condition that is it,,for that the main contributers are gh and aas,,there are other drugs such as diuretic play integral part but gh15 is talkin about GH AND AAS,, the combination is CRITICAL TO THE OUTMOST CRITICAL POINT,,INFACT YOU WILL NOT LOOK LIKE A BODYBUILDERE NOW DAY WORTH MENTIONING WITH OUT THE USE OF GH ALONG WITH THE AAS,,YOU JUST WONT BE BIG ENOUGH YOU WONT HAVE THE 'DAMN' FACTOR ,,nor will you have the quality factor when it comes to lean size and widness that gh give you with the over all tightness,,
why do you thikn tony freeman can say he got 30 inch waist? because it damn look like 30 inch waist even though it is far far from it BUT HE CAN SAY IT BECAUSE THE GH MAKE IT LOOK TIGHT AS A 30 INCH WAIST EPECIALLY IN PICTURES,,
why and how do you think the x frame even became x frame,,mainly due to hgh,,
why do you think fella like phillip heath even have delts? how come he is even becoming wide and can be on stage? H G H its the fibers thatg hgh brings you and bring you very very fast at mega dosing into mutant level,,hell it bring it fast at 5 iu a day ,,you talkin no more than 2-3 months on hgh and aas to look everything and anything like competetive bodybuilder if training
so the truth my friend is that as long as you have gh in system and add to it aas,,ANYONE CAN BE NATIONAL COMPETITOR,,ANY ONE CAN GET TO BE LARGE AND LEAN ,,EVEN IF YOU ARE VINC SUB HUMAN 3G SPC SERTIFIED TRN,,EVEN HE CAN GET LEAN AND LAEGE ON THAT COMBO,,
thatgs the lie you kids been fed to for so many years,,
the ones who say they dont take gh ,,are the worst abuser of the stuff,,it is part of every bodybuilder arsenal ,,you seimply do not grow lean with out it unless youre really in your early 20s ,,but even then you need it to become mutant,,you just need higher hgh that result in higher igf in blood inorder to see the look you want ,,you want abdominal show pushing through midsection ,,you want meaty wround wide delts,, you want full muscle yet sqarish tosro,,you want very tight 32 inch apearing waist while being 250 ,,the only way to that is H G H ,,
now and this is important to talk about rather than the prograssive balonie,,this is very very important to understand,,
THE 4-5 IU YOU FELLA TAKE WILL NOT NOT AND I REPAT NOT PUT YOU AT MAGAZINE LOOK ,,FOR THAT THE DOSES ARE MUCH MUCH HIGHER,,THOE BODYBUILDER ARE ADDICT OF HORMONES AND MAINLY ADDICT OF HGH,,THEY BUY IT IN THE DOZENS OF KITS,,THEY REALLY REALLY USE 2 VIALS A DAY EQUAL 15-20 IU THEY DO ,,SOTHATS THAT,,
inother words what im trying to explain to you fellas here is,,that when you read the package of the hgh,,when you read the paper and it ays you need to inject .15 oer kg of body weight ,,the bodybuilder really do it ,,they dont play balonie with you fellas,,they take the damn thing put the needle in and inject the doses recomended for severe burn victim,,this is what they dont tell you ,,to you on board they say ohhhh we do 4 iu BALONIE,,THATS WHERE THE LIE IS!!!!! when liar priest say he dont use gh or then change his story and says he used gh long time ago ,,both ofcourse lies lie lie,,what he really mean is that insted of using the 5 iu dose you use inorder to go into local competition he take your weekly dose and inject it in 2 4 h o u r s ,,
and that my friend why he is 230 8% at 5'4 and you are 210 12% at 5'10
thats right there is bodybuilding for you ,,youfellas need to really really understand it ,,
i allow this post to be posted on other boards on internet,,i take it as exeption because its very important posting ,,so you have my approval on that,,
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Stav,why not throw in some macarona (+cheese) ? lol ;D
LOL!!!!!! covered with Arabiata and marinara ;D
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also this posting shoudl go along with a pic of mustaf to just explain how much balonie is training very very hard and how much more important is to have the right drug and the right doses,,
yes training hard matter,,but if training hard was the key,,my pupil stavio would be mr o already 2 times,,if trainign hard was the key jamaica mesomorph would win world titles right and left,,
training only matter if YOU HAVE THE DRUGS IN THE SYSTEM NEEDED,, we do not even play with the thought of getting into a gym when not have the drugs needed in system,,why do it? you will never look as good as when have them in ,,yes you can go play with weight when youre clean 3-4 weeks past last injects,,but thats when most look the best,,but show me the bodybuilder who enter a gym 3 months after being clean....truly clean,,you will never find him because that bodybuilder does not exsist my friends
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No offense to God, but are you trying to tell us dat any dude can jack up on da sause and gh and pump out some sets on the hammer chest machine with 2 or 3 plates on da side and then BOOM a massive and world-class chest appears? Also, regarding Vince Taylor, I GUAR-GODDAMN-TEE dat he used heavy and consistant PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training to help build his massive muscles to their peak size, and then just used this pumping style training to maintain and hold da size dat he gained from PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training.
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didnt say you dont need to train heavy,,i alwys ay training is got to be there,,ofcoure you have to train to grow muscle,,but i can garenfuckintee you that you can build amazing chest by smitth machine ,,way better than free weight IF you genetic respond to hormone in the chest department is superb and if you got the combo gh/aas
ofcoure you have to train ,,duh,,you cant just buukld physiqw from siting home do nothing,,you do need to get in gym and train ,,but all those who say like liar priest,,ohhh i train none stop 38 hours a day ,,i take off 3 months in 30 years,,those are complete and utter lies ,,balonie of the cheapest kind
45-60min in gym 4 times a week thats all you need,,maybe 5 if you really going all out,,
THERE IS SUCH A THING AS OVER TRAINING! with or with out drug
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protein synthesis is elevated for 48 hours. Hence no reason to workout more than every other day. it makes no sense to lift weights any more than this when it comes to strength training
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Drugs and genetics are the primary factors involved dictating the size of *muscles*... the training is of lesser importance.
Like gh15 said - as long as you stimulate the muscle.. it will enlarge.
Whichever movements and weight give you the best contraction = win.
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Thanks God....laying the truth down again... 8)
Nasty Mutant In Training
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Ok man, I agree with what you're saying. I just wanted to make it clear that PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ie. greater and greater weights are required for bigger and bigger muscles with or without da sause. And yes, there is overtraining and I agree wit wot you say bout keeping the training sessions brief, and probably even closer to under 45 minutes per session. And yes, even though overtraining is real, so is undertraing ie not working hard enough during said workout.
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Hey flintstones1, when you say that it doesn't make sense to train more often than every other day I've gotta admit dat I can see where that could be so. But... If one only trains every other day, then how do you think they should split up the training? 2-ways or 3-ways? Personally, I think dat Push/Pull/Legs is the best training split.
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No overtraining even without drugs, thats a good one.
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protein synthesis is elevated for 48 hours. Hence no reason to workout more than every other day. it makes no sense to lift weights any more than this when it comes to strength training
= bro science
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van, your not buying into all this crap about special stacks and combos are you?
dude, if you don't think that certain compounds or combinations of such compounds can give you a certain look or accelerated gains more than others then you have a lot to learn.
i can tell you've only been using a year. anyone who has been doing this a long time wouldn't even debate this fact.
why do you insist on dispensing advise on such things when you have no practical knowledge of them?
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Have you used it before? Try 50mg to start, then maybe try 100mg. If for a show I would start maybe 8 weeks out. If too puffy 2 weeks out it can be dropped and switched to Halo, Winny, Anavar or whatever product you have found adds polish best. Or all gear can be dropped period, it really depends on what works best for you. If you look tight 2 weeks out you can just continue it all the way and perhaps even increase a bit last few days to be as full as possible.
Of course some just use it for a few days to fill out. Lots of different opinions and ways to run it. :D
But if you're one of those guys who use an oral all through prep I think using the most potent oral is the best idea, especially if you like to grow into a show.
gh15's best cycle was the 'ona-stack plus 250mg of oxy but I wouldn't recommend such a dosage, 50-100mg is very potent. It's hard to compare drug to drug but 50mg could give as much weight and thickness as 1000mg of test a week in some guys. I'm sure doing that much would work great but it is potentially toxic, so...
I'm not sure Anadrol is necessarily more dangerous than a stack of Anavar and Winstrol like Stavios wanted to do, and he thought of doing a total of 200mg a day of the two for many weeks. It's too much if safety is very important IMO.
agree with all of this.
funny how i started it last night @100mg for that very purpose, and now im reading about it on here. lol
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I definitely agree that progressive overload is important. Said it many many times. I've even said that Dante, who's attitude I don't like, is completely right in what he says about this.
However, "letting the drugs do the work" may not be so stupid in a way. I've completely wrecked my body by "training hard". Had I relied more on drugs and not trained so "hard" I would probably be a bodybuilder nowadays. Some people are more injury resistant and only in retrospect do you know where your limits lie.
If it weren't for the injury factor heavy training would beat "pumping" ALWAYS. Think of Ronnie doing those reckless bouncing front squats - these no amount of pumping that would give that hypertrophy stimulus. But even Ronnie, with crazy injury resistance, was stopped by injuries, well before the muscle itself stopped responding.
I saw where you said injury is only due to bad form and doing things wrong, not the weight per se. I gotta disagree. Especially coupled with hormone intake heavy loads will lead to injury eventually. There is no way to predict when it happens, one day you're feeling great, thinking you're careful and doing things right, and you hear a tearing sound. :'(
Vince Taylor looked fantastic doing his pumping style. There's no doubt he would have been even bigger had he focused more on getting stronger in the target rep range. But who knows, maybe his career would have been cut short by 10 years? Or maybe he would have been Mr O?
Cant predict the future, thats true i guess. i dont think injury is very likely as long as you train smart. i dont advocate training heavy to the point of failure. i think that is what can cause injury, at least most of the times that it isnt caused by bad form and imporper warm up or something like that. you know, nutrition can really play a role in that sort of thing too you know-getting injured., i think youll find injuries and tears to be much more prevelant in thos ebodybuilders who eat a diet of processsed foods and meat. ZGuys like evan centaponi who include vegetables at every meal every day, really living the bodybuilding lifestyle inside and out (not saying he doesnt eat junk food, just saying that he eats vegetables daily and the junk is more rare).. i think guys like evan will be much less succeptibnle to injury. especially if he stays away from failure and trains properly, good warm ups and form. etc. training light, never going below 8 reps for example, and just generally not focusing on progressive overload and raising the weight on the bar is far from optimal, even though a person may come along every so often who can get results from doing so with the combined use of drugs. but that is a very very rare case and even in that case-for example guys like vince taylor, phil heath, flex wheeler, chris corimer, paul dillet, etc.. guys who never went "heavy".. guess what? those guys oculd stilll lift heavy ass weight. they woudl routinely use 300-400lbs on all major exercises. it just wasnt hevay to them. but they would have never gotten that big unless they gopt that strong, and ill guarantee you the strength came before the size, not after. thats just basic physisics
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i know, i know...
but you know as well as i do that all the drugs in the world wont do anything for a guy who has never lifted heavy ass weights. big boys can lift big weights. thats a fact. not all big boys continue to lift heavy weights on a regular basis, i do notice alot of guys lose their motivation to gain strength and lift heavy once they get to a certain size. but thats only after they have already built up a foundation of muscle, at which point they can maintain size and "refine" what they already have by doing higher reps and increasing the doseage. but first they had to lift hard and heavy, get strong, before they ever got that to size in the first place. like i said to van, we can talk about the few rare exceptions, guys like phil, flex, levrone, cormier, dillet, nasser, who were able to build massive physiques without ever lifting super hard and heavy. but all those guys did lift heavy ass weights. just for some reason their strength and size came relatively easy to them, they didnt need to do sets in the 1-5 rep range in order to conttinuosly add pounds on to their lifts. most people are going to have do train more like a "powerbuilder" and focus on lifting heavy in order to gain the size. of course your point was that without the right drugs you wont look like a bodybuiulder no matter how you train. and i agree with you. my point is that even with the right drugs, 99% of guys still wont look like a bodybuilder because they arent focusing on getting stronger.
wrong my friend,,
the truth is and its a sad truth but its the only truth about bodybuilding,,
the use of GH IS CRITICAL,,NONE OF THE OLD TIMERS WILL TELL YOU SO,,but if you read between coaches words,,you will understand he was aware of bodybuilders experiementing with it along the 70! i know it in the early 80s but you get the idea,,
bodybuilding ,,modern bodybuilding,,is all abot wether you have gh in system ,,AND THEN HOW MUCH GH YOU HAVE IN SYSTEM,,
you have no need in nothing else,,you can practically play with weights,,you can never touch the free weight bench zone in gym you can only work hammer and have the best chest in the world,,
it all depend on your size and condition that is it,,for that the main contributers are gh and aas,,there are other drugs such as diuretic play integral part but gh15 is talkin about GH AND AAS,, the combination is CRITICAL TO THE OUTMOST CRITICAL POINT,,INFACT YOU WILL NOT LOOK LIKE A BODYBUILDERE NOW DAY WORTH MENTIONING WITH OUT THE USE OF GH ALONG WITH THE AAS,,YOU JUST WONT BE BIG ENOUGH YOU WONT HAVE THE 'DAMN' FACTOR ,,nor will you have the quality factor when it comes to lean size and widness that gh give you with the over all tightness,,
why do you thikn tony freeman can say he got 30 inch waist? because it damn look like 30 inch waist even though it is far far from it BUT HE CAN SAY IT BECAUSE THE GH MAKE IT LOOK TIGHT AS A 30 INCH WAIST EPECIALLY IN PICTURES,,
why and how do you think the x frame even became x frame,,mainly due to hgh,,
why do you think fella like phillip heath even have delts? how come he is even becoming wide and can be on stage? H G H its the fibers thatg hgh brings you and bring you very very fast at mega dosing into mutant level,,hell it bring it fast at 5 iu a day ,,you talkin no more than 2-3 months on hgh and aas to look everything and anything like competetive bodybuilder if training
so the truth my friend is that as long as you have gh in system and add to it aas,,ANYONE CAN BE NATIONAL COMPETITOR,,ANY ONE CAN GET TO BE LARGE AND LEAN ,,EVEN IF YOU ARE VINC SUB HUMAN 3G SPC SERTIFIED TRN,,EVEN HE CAN GET LEAN AND LAEGE ON THAT COMBO,,
thatgs the lie you kids been fed to for so many years,,
the ones who say they dont take gh ,,are the worst abuser of the stuff,,it is part of every bodybuilder arsenal ,,you seimply do not grow lean with out it unless youre really in your early 20s ,,but even then you need it to become mutant,,you just need higher hgh that result in higher igf in blood inorder to see the look you want ,,you want abdominal show pushing through midsection ,,you want meaty wround wide delts,, you want full muscle yet sqarish tosro,,you want very tight 32 inch apearing waist while being 250 ,,the only way to that is H G H ,,
now and this is important to talk about rather than the prograssive balonie,,this is very very important to understand,,
THE 4-5 IU YOU FELLA TAKE WILL NOT NOT AND I REPAT NOT PUT YOU AT MAGAZINE LOOK ,,FOR THAT THE DOSES ARE MUCH MUCH HIGHER,,THOE BODYBUILDER ARE ADDICT OF HORMONES AND MAINLY ADDICT OF HGH,,THEY BUY IT IN THE DOZENS OF KITS,,THEY REALLY REALLY USE 2 VIALS A DAY EQUAL 15-20 IU THEY DO ,,SOTHATS THAT,,
inother words what im trying to explain to you fellas here is,,that when you read the package of the hgh,,when you read the paper and it ays you need to inject .15 oer kg of body weight ,,the bodybuilder really do it ,,they dont play balonie with you fellas,,they take the damn thing put the needle in and inject the doses recomended for severe burn victim,,this is what they dont tell you ,,to you on board they say ohhhh we do 4 iu BALONIE,,THATS WHERE THE LIE IS!!!!! when liar priest say he dont use gh or then change his story and says he used gh long time ago ,,both ofcourse lies lie lie,,what he really mean is that insted of using the 5 iu dose you use inorder to go into local competition he take your weekly dose and inject it in 2 4 h o u r s ,,
and that my friend why he is 230 8% at 5'4 and you are 210 12% at 5'10
thats right there is bodybuilding for you ,,youfellas need to really really understand it ,,
i allow this post to be posted on other boards on internet,,i take it as exeption because its very important posting ,,so you have my approval on that,,
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man GH is typing some LONG ASS messages lately
long essays, he must spend a lot of time typing
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But what you got to remember is dat those guys who don't train heavy are just maintaining their size. They used heavy PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training while they were building their size, and that IS EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT THEIR MASSIVE MUSCLES IN THE 1ST PLACE. Show me someone who got larger and larger muscles WITHOUT using progressively heavier and heavier weights? It can't be done. Remember, these "superstars" got big muscles from progressively greater and greater workloads. And speaking of injury, Arthur Jones used to say that the majority of injuries come at the beginning of a work set when one is fresh and uses too much force to move the weight, and that the last few reps in a set taken to failure are actually the safest reps. I'm not so sure about that, but that was his claim. P.S. I've never been injured while training, but I have suffered some injuries from other "sports" namely basketball and running track.
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But what you got to remember is dat those guys who don't train heavy are just maintaining their size. They used heavy PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training while they were building their size, and that IS EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT THEIR MASSIVE MUSCLES IN THE 1ST PLACE. Show me someone who got larger and larger muscles WITHOUT using progressively heavier and heavier weights? It can't be done. Remember, these "superstars" got big muscles from progressively greater and greater workloads. And speaking of injury, Arthur Jones used to say that the majority of injuries come at the beginning of a work set when one is fresh and uses too much force to move the weight, and that the last few reps in a set taken to failure are actually the safest reps. I'm not so sure about that, but that was his claim. P.S. I've never been injured while training, but I have suffered some injuries from other "sports" namely basketball and running track.
you really have no clue, do you?
no, they didnt use 'PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training to get their MASSIVE MUSCLES IN THE 1ST PLACE'.
they just upped the dose.
it isnt rocket science. its fact- get on that page or get left behind.
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But what you got to remember is dat those guys who don't train heavy are just maintaining their size. They used heavy PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training while they were building their size, and that IS EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT THEIR MASSIVE MUSCLES IN THE 1ST PLACE. Show me someone who got larger and larger muscles WITHOUT using progressively heavier and heavier weights? It can't be done. Remember, these "superstars" got big muscles from progressively greater and greater workloads. And speaking of injury, Arthur Jones used to say that the majority of injuries come at the beginning of a work set when one is fresh and uses too much force to move the weight, and that the last few reps in a set taken to failure are actually the safest reps. I'm not so sure about that, but that was his claim. P.S. I've never been injured while training, but I have suffered some injuries from other "sports" namely basketball and running track.
he does have a point about injuries offten occuring at the beginning of the set, but that is usually in the context of having an improper warm up. im not saying that the injury may necessarily occur on the last rep, but that going to that point can stress the muscle too much and maybe be repsonsible for an injury on the following set or thee following workout?
you really have no clue, do you?
no, they didnt use 'PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD training to get their MASSIVE MUSCLES IN THE 1ST PLACE'.
they just upped the dose.
it isnt rocket science. its fact- get on that page or get left behind.
"upped the dose" of what drug? iGH, AAS, or both at the same time? using alot of gh and alot of aas is the trigger that causes the growth, but the growth wont happen if arentent focusing on progressive overload and getting stronger too.
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he does have a point about injuries offten occuring at the beginning of the set, but that is usually in the context of having an improper warm up. im not saying that the injury may necessarily occur on the last rep, but that going to that point can stress the muscle too much and maybe be repsonsible for an injury on the following set or thee following workout?
"upped the dose" of what drug? iGH, AAS, or both at the same time? using alot of gh and alot of aas is the trigger that causes the growth, but the growth wont happen if arentent focusing on progressive overload and getting stronger too.
i disagree.
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i disagree.
Every guy on the olympia stage can bench over 450. every guy on the olympia stage can deadlift over 550. every guy on the olympia stage can shoulder press over 315 and every guy on the olympia stage can squat with over 405.
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Cant predict the future, thats true i guess. i dont think injury is very likely as long as you train smart. i dont advocate training heavy to the point of failure. i think that is what can cause injury, at least most of the times that it isnt caused by bad form and imporper warm up or something like that.
Something happens when you use a lot of steroids that makes you much more vulnerable to muscle tears. Even guys who don't lift heavy nor to failure can suddenly tear a muscle doing some silly light movement. Hell some guys have torn muscles just posing. When your muscles feel extremely "full" from drugs it can sometimes feel like you might tear the muscle curling a 10lb dumbell and that feeling isn't wrong a lot of times.
I don't know if the failure point is the most dangerous point. What dj181 said, the point that Arthur Jones made, that you can generate the most force at the beginning of a set. I agree with it. All my tears have occurred not during a grinding last rep, but during the first or second rep. My pec was completely torn during the second rep of a 10-12 rep set on smith incline.
I also think that after a long training career there might be microtears on your tendonds you're not aware of. One day it just gives. There will be wear and tear on your body after training a long time, no matter what, even training "light".
guys who never went "heavy".. guess what? those guys oculd stilll lift heavy ass weight
A big muscle is a strong muscle. I have a friend who's "twice" my size yet I'm much stronger. I always tell him that muscularly he's stronger than me. It's just that moving a lot of weight involves a lot more than the muscular strength potential of a set of muscles. It's technique, neuromuscular coordination. Especially with multi-joint movements these other factors come into play. But yeah, all these big guys who didn't seem extremely strong still could generate a ton of force. Like the research says, the strength of a muscle is related to the cross-sectional area of the muscle.
If you're big you're not weak. :D
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If you're big you're not weak. :D
you wont get big unless you get strong.
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Every guy on the olympia stage can bench over 450. every guy on the olympia stage can deadlift over 550. every guy on the olympia stage can shoulder press over 315 and every guy on the olympia stage can squat with over 405.
I don't know about those numbers. Squat yeah, but the other lifts no. Not every guy.
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I don't know about those numbers. Squat yeah, but the other lifts no. Not every guy.
ill guarantee it. first off, those really arent very big numbers. second off, all the guys on the olympia stage are fucking massive and can easily lift those numbers, most of them for sets of reps. thirdly, even if you dont want to accept that all those guys can lift those weights, you could not be arguing anything other than maybe one or two guys as maybe just barely short of one or two of those numbers.
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Jones also said that one should move a tad slower during the first few reps to keep the levels of force in check. And he also had an idea of a "breaking point" which basically was the point where the muscle or tendon or liagment would "break" under an unsaid load. It could be 400 pounds or 500 pounds or 300 pounds, and what he sometimes recommended was to stay at say 400 pounds and work up to 20 or even 50 reps. I remember that he wrote about some fvcking beast he trained who did full ass to the grass squats with 450 pounds, and he was working on bringing this beast to the point of doing 50 fvcking reps with a 450 pound barbell! I think that it may have been Casey Viator.
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ill guarantee it. first off, those really arent very big numbers. second off, all the guys on the olympia stage are fucking massive and can easily lift those numbers, most of them for sets of reps. thirdly, even if you dont want to accept that all those guys can lift those weights, you could not be arguing anything other than maybe one or two guys as maybe just barely short of one or two of those numbers.
There's many guys on the O stage who can't bench 450. How many pros have benched in their videos, how many of them have repped with 450+? I can only think of 2, Levrone and Coleman. Maybe you have some more examples, maybe even of them repping a much lighter weight which could correlate to 450lbs max.
If you've never done a floor deadlift, which a number of pros have never done, 550 would not happen first time out, even if the potential was there.
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I also think that after a long training career there might be microtears on your tendonds you're not aware of. One day it just gives. There will be wear and tear on your body after training a long time, no matter what, even training "light".
I definately think there is something to be said for the wear and tear. Like you said microtears in muscles leading to scarbuildup, progressively more and more and eventually the muscle gives away.
But I do believe that lighter training will give you a longer run. See Shawn Ray, see Vince Taylor. Both relatively light trainers, both long career, both injury free.
On the other side we have heavy hard trainers. See Dorian Yates, see Ronnie. This type of training leads to more trauma on the muscle meaning more tearbuildup and scartissue buildup. Eventually the muscle gives.
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GH15, How do you explain the difference in physique of Marius Pudzeowski and other powerlifters? Is he using more GH to cut up?
What about bodybuilder Frank Sepe? What did he do to his physique drug wise when he transitioned from bodybuilder to fitness model? Less test? Less GH? More Cardio? etc. etc.
Thanks
try anadrol gh and testosterona and you will understand why marius looked different than other powerlifter,, great gh user,,and ofcourse the combo or anapolon gh and testosterona create very large strong thick bliwn up lean fellas but,,marius in particular liked gh,,you dont have to use gh to be a great powerliofter but you do have to have it to have a great powerlifter physiqe
frank sepe was on a lot of seros,,he did it when seros were very easy to get ,,via aids pacient usually ,, when control was a lot less tight in americana,,his aas usage suits fitness model which is less long ester more short ester and ofcourse big emphasis on anabolics to androgenic higher ratio
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I don't know about those numbers. Squat yeah, but the other lifts no. Not every guy.
correct,,maybe on a good day maxing one rep when on lotta anadrol tren halo etc,, but many of the 202 class cant do those lifts epecially nto for reps,,some of the open also cant
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ill guarantee it. first off, those really arent very big numbers. second off, all the guys on the olympia stage are fucking massive and can easily lift those numbers, most of them for sets of reps. thirdly, even if you dont want to accept that all those guys can lift those weights, you could not be arguing anything other than maybe one or two guys as maybe just barely short of one or two of those numbers.
yes many of the o line up can do it for one rep,,some for reps but in reality in the gym ,,when cameras are off,,and no one around ,,when there is no money to gain ,,and no magazine to photoshoot even though many of the plate are fake,,they train lighter,,they train within level where the muscle can be stimulated
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that is also why most physiqe today are called foundationles,,because training is not as heavy and not as serious as in the 70s ,,they did train a lot harder and a lot balls to wall in 70s,,yes they had all you can eat drug buffet but! they trained their ass ,,they didnt go all day long like the lie storys but when they trained ,,they trained big time,,its just part of society back then ,,alot more serious than the shit we call society today
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that is also why most physiqe today are called foundationles,,because training is not as heavy and not as serious as in the 70s ,,they did train a lot harder and a lot balls to wall in 70s,,yes they had all you can eat drug buffet but! they trained their ass ,,they didnt go all day long like the lie storys but when they trained ,,they trained big time,,its just part of society back then ,,alot more serious than the shit we call society today
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you said that when you take very high doses of aas you become very lazy. So... nobody trains heavy nowdays because the shitload of drugs? or it's because the nothingness of our generation? ???
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no body train hard because when you got lots of drugs in system you just become lazy ,,but you also had lots of drugs in system back then,,,the difference is then no hgh at the level we have now,,
when you have hgh at the level you have now in bodybuilding ,,you DO NOT HAVE TO TRAIN OR DIET VERY SERIOUSLY TO SEE 8% 230+,,THE NEED OF SPCIFIC DIET IS ONLY FOR GOING DOWN TO 4 % FROM 7% AND THE GH COVER FOR MANY MANY MISTSAKES SOME OF THEM IS DIET,,SOME OF THEM IS BEING LAZY ,,SOME OF THEM IS OVERSATURATING YOURSELF WITH DRUGS,,
just so you understand friends,,most bodybuilder OVEREAT,,bodybuilder with no gh that is,,ONLY WHEN YOU ARE ON GH IS WHEN YOU NEED TO EAT SHIT LOAD OF FOOD,,you have no need to overeat when you are only on aas,,many mistakenly do it and it fuck their bodybuilding,,
intensity still matter but lifting heavy is really something yhou dont see many bodybuilder do now days,,they dont ,,they SAY THEY DO,,you hear stories they do,,they do it once in a blue moon ,,in reality they come into gym for 3 months prep for competition playing around and growing from abuse of GROWTH HORMONE TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONA AND EQUIPONA
gh = more food
no gh = less food
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didnt say you dont need to train heavy,,i alwys ay training is got to be there,,ofcoure you have to train to grow muscle,,but i can garenfuckintee you that you can build amazing chest by smitth machine ,,way better than free weight IF you genetic respond to hormone in the chest department is superb and if you got the combo gh/aas
ofcoure you have to train ,,duh,,you cant just buukld physiqw from siting home do nothing,,you do need to get in gym and train ,,but all those who say like liar priest,,ohhh i train none stop 38 hours a day ,,i take off 3 months in 30 years,,those are complete and utter lies ,,balonie of the cheapest kind
45-60min in gym 4 times a week thats all you need,,maybe 5 if you really going all out,,
THERE IS SUCH A THING AS OVER TRAINING! with or with out drug
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READ THIS AS THIS SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Training hard matters BUT!!!!! all this bullshit about training to extreme failure forced reps negatives etc is NOT needed,all that matters at this levels is the amount of drugs PERIOD!!!!!!!! and not how hard one trains. Everyone trains hard and it's a myth that the hardest training guys are the biggest. This is bullshit propaganda and lies perpetuated by the magazines and supplement companies and some trainers who want you to believe in new fangled training system.
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READ THIS AS THIS SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Training hard matters BUT!!!!! all this bullshit about training to extreme failure forced reps negatives etc is NOT needed,all that matters at this levels is the amount of drugs PERIOD!!!!!!!! and not how hard one trains. Everyone trains hard and it's a myth that the hardest training guys are the biggest. This is bullshit propaganda and lies perpetuated by the magazines and supplement companies and some trainers who want you to believe in new fangled training system.
Fuckin A man, it just keeps getting worse... :'(
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man GH is typing some LONG ASS messages lately
long essays, he must spend a lot of time typing
Maybe hes trying so bad to convince us to buy ghona? :D ;D
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What does overtraining feel like? I'm a natural and these days all the time my muscles feel dead and like they won't "turn on." Every once in a while I'll have a day or two of good workouts where I'm "on" and lift good weights and get a pump etc. but then it's back to "off" no weight, no pump, and hurting joints. Is this overtraining, or something else?
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What does overtraining feel like? I'm a natural and these days all the time my muscles feel dead and like they won't "turn on." Every once in a while I'll have a day or two of good workouts where I'm "on" and lift good weights and get a pump etc. but then it's back to "off" no weight, no pump, and hurting joints. Is this overtraining, or something else?
yeah its your bodies way of saying you need to slow down a bit. throw lethargy in there, like the feeling of being really dragged out run down and there are a million other places you'd rather be than the gym, and sometimes loss of appetite too.
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READ THIS AS THIS SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Training hard matters BUT!!!!! all this bullshit about training to extreme failure forced reps negatives etc is NOT needed,all that matters at this levels is the amount of drugs PERIOD!!!!!!!! and not how hard one trains. Everyone trains hard and it's a myth that the hardest training guys are the biggest. This is bullshit propaganda and lies perpetuated by the magazines and supplement companies and some trainers who want you to believe in new fangled training system.
fucking thank god for a voice of reason and common sense.
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i think the best signal of overtraining is when ur losing strength
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in general, what do wsm guys use? anapolan, test? what test, suspension?
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try anadrol gh and testosterona and you will understand why marius looked different than other powerlifter,, great gh user,,and ofcourse the combo or anapolon gh and testosterona create very large strong thick bliwn up lean fellas but,,marius in particular liked gh,,you dont have to use gh to be a great powerliofter but you do have to have it to have a great powerlifter physiqe
frank sepe was on a lot of seros,,he did it when seros were very easy to get ,,via aids pacient usually ,, when control was a lot less tight in americana,,his aas usage suits fitness model which is less long ester more short ester and ofcourse big emphasis on anabolics to androgenic higher ratio
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Go fuck yourself you c.u.n.t.
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Hey flintstones1, when you say that it doesn't make sense to train more often than every other day I've gotta admit dat I can see where that could be so. But... If one only trains every other day, then how do you think they should split up the training? 2-ways or 3-ways? Personally, I think dat Push/Pull/Legs is the best training split.
well I am just using bro science at its bes like unsung said. :-* :-* :-*
If I train chest monday night , and back tuesday, what does that accomplish? I am still growing from that chest workout all the way to wedsday night maybe even longr. All it is gonna do is interfere wth recovery. I think longer workouts (2 hours), less frequently (eod) would be more efficient than the typical 5 days per week 45-60 minute workouts that 99 percent of people do.
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Spot on Tito ;) And, by da way, no one is saying dat one has to train with super and outrageous intensity ie forced reps, negatives. Also, when I say heavy training, I don't mean low rep training, training is heavy when one consistantly makes progressive gains, and it doesn't matter if it's with a 3 rep max or a 20 rep max, IT IS HEAVY IE IT IS PROGRESSIVE. P.S. Drugs just add the finishing touch ::)
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Sepe was a freak! lots of gh in that body
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Go fuck yourself you c.u.n.t.
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Shut your big mouth son, gh15 is a respected member and you are not
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Shut your big mouth son, gh15 is a respected member and you are not
Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sepe was a freak! lots of gh in that body
Sepe at his biggest was very impressive
when he made the smart transition to the smaller more mainstream look, he still looked impressive. No doubt still heavily medicated, but looked very "natural" ;)
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Big Sepe
(http://membres.multimania.fr/bodybuilding2000/Bodybuilders/FrankSepe/143.jpg)
Fit Sepe
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Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Than act like a 'veteran' instead of being a screaming attention bitch.
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Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
sorry, but dropping plates is right.
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Sepe was a freak! lots of gh in that body
Fuck, he was huge.How tall is he?
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Fuck, he was huge.How tall is he?
little over 6 feet I believe
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Big Sepe
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Fit Sepe
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"fit" sepe. lol. hes huge
I wish i was that "fit"
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Smart guy, just like our Grant, got out of bodybuilding and got into the 'money physique' as a cover model, I think Sepe holds the record for most cover shots , I read that somewhere
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Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
i guess us noobs better start showing you some respect cause your a "vet"
Doesnt get more pathetic than asking for respect on a message cause your a "vet" on a internet message board LMAO!!!!
Funny that for someone who is a "vet" on a bodybuilding message board, you dont jack shit. Or else, you'd know gh15's words are gold...even a noob like me can see that.
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Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
haha this clown thinks cause hes a vet on an internet board he knows it all
EVERYONE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!! ::) ::) ::)
don't be angry cause gh15 is right :D
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GH15,
What routine do you recommend for a 4 day split or 5 day ???
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Gota love members who registered here a couple years ago and believe they can talk shit to board vets like me. It is incredible. Uninstall. C.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
So...please, you explain to us the "real" cause to the difference in physique of Marius Pudzeowski and other powerlifters, and the drug transition of Frank Sepe. Since you're a vet, you can answer it, right?
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::) SUCKMYMUSCLE ::) <--- LOL
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So I wonder what Sepe's cycle looked like when he lost all that size? More anabolics like winstrol, primo, etc.etc.? I wonder how much test stacked with the weaker drugs OR did he just keep all the same anabolics/androgens and just drop the insulin? It seems insulin is the drug when stacked with all the shit that really beefs one up.
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So I wonder what Sepe's cycle looked like when he lost all that size? More anabolics like winstrol, primo, etc.etc.? I wonder how much test stacked with the weaker drugs OR did he just keep all the same anabolics/androgens and just drop the insulin? It seems insulin is the drug when stacked with all the shit that really beefs one up.
I don't think he ever fucked with insulin, gh definetly, no question..but I think insulin was a little before his time, he was out of the size game by the time insulin use was becoming the norm..
as far as cycle components, you can bet on: tren, primo, masteron, halo, anavar and winstrol prob with some prop
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I feel really sorry for you imbeciles. You people are so fucking dumb. Like a bunch of fucking apes. Truly you guys are dumbest, most worthless pieces of Human excrement I have ever had the displeasure of communicating with in my life. You guys are the best advertisement for dysgenics at work. I have more respect for the apes at the zoo. They lack language but what they communicate is more intelligible than what you guys do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I feel really sorry for you imbeciles. You people are so fucking dumb. Like a bunch of fucking apes. Truly you guys are dumbest, most worthless pieces of Human excrement I have ever had the displeasure of communicating with in my life. You guys are the best advertisement for dysgenics at work. I have more respect for the apes at the zoo. They lack language but what they communicate is more intelligible than what you guys do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
(http://www.slaphappysusan.com/files/internet_serious_business_framed.jpg)
:D :D :D
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I feel really sorry for you imbeciles. You people are so fucking dumb. Like a bunch of fucking apes. Truly you guys are dumbest, most worthless pieces of Human excrement I have ever had the displeasure of communicating with in my life. You guys are the best advertisement for dysgenics at work. I have more respect for the apes at the zoo. They lack language but what they communicate is more intelligible than what you guys do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Damn! Settle down Beavis....You ok man? You've melting alot lately...I'm giving out hugs for the holiday...no homo.
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I feel really sorry for you imbeciles. You people are so fucking dumb. Like a bunch of fucking apes. Truly you guys are dumbest, most worthless pieces of Human excrement I have ever had the displeasure of communicating with in my life. You guys are the best advertisement for dysgenics at work. I have more respect for the apes at the zoo. They lack language but what they communicate is more intelligible than what you guys do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yet.. you continue to hang around and interact with the *apes*.
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You don't get to decide how a veteran should act. You are a fucking noob piece of shit. You = worthless. Talk respectfully to your superior(me).
And a screaming attention bitch? Oh, really? What about your hero GH15 starting several threads a day and typing in bold letters like a moron? How is that for attention?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Damn! Settle down Beavis....You ok man? You've melting alot lately...I'm giving out hugs for the holiday...no homo.
Beavis? Dude, how many times have you asked me to explain things to you, things that were over your head and you couldn't figure out for yourself? If I am Beavis, I am guessing you are Butthead...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Talk respectfully to your superior(me).
SUCKMYMUSCLE
:o :o :o
This guy is too much.
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Dear God, what causes the muscles to be ultra-dense and granite-like beside HEAVY PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD TRAINING ;D Also, does gh cause a lose in granite-like muscles? For example, dat blockhead polak pudz has or had HUGE and STRONG muscles, but they didn't really havd dat granite-like appearance to them. So was that da result of excess gh usage?
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I feel really sorry for you imbeciles. You people are so fucking dumb. Like a bunch of fucking apes. Truly you guys are dumbest, most worthless pieces of Human excrement I have ever had the displeasure of communicating with in my life. You guys are the best advertisement for dysgenics at work. I have more respect for the apes at the zoo. They lack language but what they communicate is more intelligible than what you guys do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wow, but tell us how you really feel..
also, exactly what kind of 'veteran' are you ?
(http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Veteran.jpg)
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i think halo plays a role
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Beavis? Dude, how many times have you asked me to explain things to you, things that were over your head and you couldn't figure out for yourself? If I am Beavis, I am guessing you are Butthead...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I don't recall me ever asking you to explain anything, I barely know who you are ???
But that's not the point of my post. You need a hug.
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This guy is too much.
I am God. You should be sucking my dick right now. F.a.g.g.o.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hey g101, when you say that you think that halo plays a role, are you saying it in reference to ma question bout granite-like muscles? A prime example of what I'm taking about can be seen in a classic shot of Zane doing roman-chair sit-ups. Now dat is da personifactiation of granite-like muscles ;D I've also seen it on some of the lighter world-class powerlifters (165s and up to 220s)
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Hey g101, when you say that you think that halo plays a role, are you saying it in reference to ma question bout granite-like muscles? A prime example of what I'm taking about can be seen in a classic shot of Zane doing roman-chair sit-ups. Now dat is da personifactiation of granite-like muscles ;D I've also seen it on some of the lighter world-class powerlifters (165s and up to 220s)
yea i think g's right. Also powerlifters love their halo
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I don't think he ever fucked with insulin, gh definetly, no question..but I think insulin was a little before his time, he was out of the size game by the time insulin use was becoming the norm..
as far as cycle components, you can bet on: tren, primo, masteron, halo, anavar and winstrol prob with some prop
So the main component of the cycle was not test? I alway thought that test was a base for any cycle-as what Palumbo says, 1000mg of test to start.
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You should be sucking my dick right now. F.a.g.g.o.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Coming from the guy who wants a blow job... sound logic there, dickless.
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I don't think he ever fucked with insulin, gh definetly, no question..but I think insulin was a little before his time, he was out of the size game by the time insulin use was becoming the norm..
as far as cycle components, you can bet on: tren, primo, masteron, halo, anavar and winstrol prob with some prop
insulin was around in the early 90's
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insulin was around in the early 90's
The guys that I knew back in late eightes and early ninties (90-93) didn't mess with insulin and they were pretty big IFBB dudes. They did run a total of about 6 to 8 grams of anabolics/androgenics a week. The GH was alot also, can't remember what they said.
I would really like to know what exactly Sepe took to "thin" up his body like that.
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The guys that I knew back in late eightes and early ninties (90-93) didn't mess with insulin and they were pretty big IFBB dudes. They did run a total of about 6 to 8 grams of anabolics/androgenics a week. The GH was alot also, can't remember what they said.
I would really like to know what exactly Sepe took to "thin" up his body like that.
its not what he took, its how much he stopped taking.
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I am God. You should be sucking my dick right now. F.a.g.g.o.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
you are nothing,,and if you dont shut up im gonna found who you are easy to do with the crazys on this site,,nail you down to the t ,,and surprize you with a delivery of goodies with your local sherif department,,
now go back to your cave if you like to still be your local no where to be found town bodybuilding hero,,
gh15 approved
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Dear God, what causes the muscles to be ultra-dense and granite-like beside HEAVY PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD TRAINING ;D Also, does gh cause a lose in granite-like muscles? For example, dat blockhead polak pudz has or had HUGE and STRONG muscles, but they didn't really havd dat granite-like appearance to them. So was that da result of excess gh usage?
granite like muscle is matter of conditioning,,you need to knwo how to use diuretic with hormones and experiement with them individually,,never the less,,granite muscle will not come unless you have enough muscle to begin with which will not come unless you are on hgh and aas combined,,
the use of hgh with aas create a change in physiqe big enough to cause the ability to walk around 8% with large quality muscle,,and then and only then you can start playing the granite conditioining level,,
the fact you need to understand here is that fellas liek shawn ray also used hgh,,its not like they were very very hard worker that did this and that and thats why their conditioning was superb,,small and big big and small every bodybuilder is a result of hgh usage integraded closely with aas usage,,the mooment you lack one of those you are NOT a bodybuilder and will not LOOK like a bodybuilder ,,atleast modern bodybuilder 1985 and on
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GH15,
What routine do you recommend for a 4 day split or 5 day ???
i recomend a 4 day routine of 15 unit hgh devided to 5 doses of 3 iu every few hours,,4 days on 1 day off,,reapeat :)
it dont matter friend,,you can walk in the gym with training like pussy ,,if you got the right things in you hgh and right aas you are looking like bodybuilder and with time become mutant or if really start older or have bad bad genetic become serious lean beast
gh15 approved
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Thanks God, but what about Zane circa 1978? There is a really cool pic of him doing roman chair sit-ups, and he has that granite look to him. He wasn't using gh in 78 was he? Also, he was so massive in that pic 5'9" 185-190. Was it just correct manipulation of diuretics combined with sub-5 bodyfat level?
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granite like muscle is matter of conditioning,,you need to knwo how to use diuretic with hormones and experiement with them individually,,never the less,,granite muscle will not come unless you have enough muscle to begin with which will not come unless you are on hgh and aas combined,,
the use of hgh with aas create a change in physiqe big enough to cause the ability to walk around 8% with large quality muscle,,and then and only then you can start playing the granite conditioining level,,
the fact you need to understand here is that fellas liek shawn ray also used hgh,,its not like they were very very hard worker that did this and that and thats why their conditioning was superb,,small and big big and small every bodybuilder is a result of hgh usage integraded closely with aas usage,,the mooment you lack one of those you are NOT a bodybuilder and will not LOOK like a bodybuilder ,,atleast modern bodybuilder 1985 and on
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Curious gh15, what caused Dorian to have that look he did?
The rock hard polished marble look?
Was it thin skin? Certain drugs? all or none of the above?
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So the main component of the cycle was not test? I alway thought that test was a base for any cycle-as what Palumbo says, 1000mg of test to start.
Not for the fitness model look, maybe some prop EOD but nowhere near 1000mg LOL
the only reason test is used as a base is to offset the 'shutdown' effects of all the other steroids, I mean what's the point of looking like Sepe if you can't fuck all the hot pussy that's getting thrown at you..
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Not for the fitness model look, maybe some prop EOD but nowhere near 1000mg LOL
the only reason test is used as a base is to offset the 'shutdown' effects of all the other steroids, I mean what's the point of looking like Sepe if you can't fuck all the hot pussy that's getting thrown at you..
sex life is important!
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READ THIS AS THIS SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Training hard matters BUT!!!!! all this bullshit about training to extreme failure forced reps negatives etc is NOT needed,all that matters at this levels is the amount of drugs PERIOD!!!!!!!! and not how hard one trains. Everyone trains hard and it's a myth that the hardest training guys are the biggest. This is bullshit propaganda and lies perpetuated by the magazines and supplement companies and some trainers who want you to believe in new fangled training system.
You guys are pushing this thread in every applicable exaggerations possible.. You said it yourself; you can only move your arms in so many ways... yea exercise "routines" are often bullshit.. not everyone trains hard; drugs are part of the equation... but eat shit, you'll look like shit, train like shit, you'll look like shit... they're unavoidable... but drugs aren't the answer to everything..
I know a guy I won't name who I know for fact has been on various cycles I wouldn't even have the discipline to be on myself, yet still can't break 200lb...
I know another guy, same height, who doesn't even know how to use a syringe that has been consistently over 220lb relatively lean, trains hard, eats his crusts...
Bottom line = genetics wins. Plain and simple.
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wrong !
i can garentee you if gh15 take a fella like ryan syrcast from american idol program in americana ,,work with him 12 months! ,,this fella become a national level competitor with good chance to stand his own against phillip heath ,,
the 200lb fella you talk about playing with poop most likley bunk or underdosed or just no goodsource,,or he just dont care about bodybuilding and does it for recreatiuonal meaning,,dont eat enough ,,party ,,girls,,drinks,,wasted,,lots of pressure and stress,,travel ,,etc
THATS HOW MUCH ALL DRUGS PHILLIP HEATH IS! i garentee you syrcast ryan would be standing toe to toe with him after 12 months of gh15 advice and application of program
you fellas got to understand it!
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no such thing as "genetics"
just abuse HGH like the guys at my gym and suddently you are 240lb
HGH = ALTERING YOUR GENETICS.
YOU CAN TRAIN LIKE SHIT AND EAT LIKE SHIT AND STILL MAKE AMAZING GAINS
I SEE IT EVERY DAY AT MY GYM.
OH NOT TO MENTION MAKE SURE YOU GET LEGGGITTTTTTTTTTTT GH
yes correct VERY VERY MUCH CORRECT!
gh15 apporved
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You guys are pushing this thread in every applicable exaggerations possible.. You said it yourself; you can only move your arms in so many ways... yea exercise "routines" are often bullshit.. not everyone trains hard; drugs are part of the equation... but eat shit, you'll look like shit, train like shit, you'll look like shit... they're unavoidable... but drugs aren't the answer to everything..
I know a guy I won't name who I know for fact has been on various cycles I wouldn't even have the discipline to be on myself, yet still can't break 200lb...
I know another guy, same height, who doesn't even know how to use a syringe that has been consistently over 220lb relatively lean, trains hard, eats his crusts...
Bottom line = genetics wins. Plain and simple.
no such thing as "genetics"
just abuse HGH like the guys at my gym and suddently you are 240lb
HGH = ALTERING YOUR GENETICS.
YOU CAN TRAIN LIKE SHIT AND EAT LIKE SHIT AND STILL MAKE AMAZING GAINS
I SEE IT EVERY DAY AT MY GYM.
OH NOT TO MENTION MAKE SURE YOU GET LEGGGITTTTTTTTTTTT GH
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why dont some of the one who belive in genetic,,why dont you ,,take 2 kits of hgh,,very cheap you can get it for 400 dollar,, use it ,,really try to not pay attention to yourself in mirror much eventhough its immposible because you change daily,,but try try to not pay attention ,,
go back to mirro after day 30 of hgh in 5 iu a day ,,take your shirt off,,actually dont go to mirror just stand next to sink and get glass of water,,see what happens,,
what hapens is that you will have to look to the right because new muscle dimention will buldge at you ,,lean nice tight skin MUSCLE TISSUE ,,will be poping nicely while you take your glass of water,,something you didnt have there 30 days before,,and no it wont be water or fat,,it will be new muscle tissue ,,pure lean mean beef
now ofcoure you need to be on steroid,,but simple trenbolona testosterona and equipona and you look NASTY NASTYYY ,,
its just new dimentions on body ,,parts enlagrged with surface you never had before,,
THATS WHY I DO NOT LIKE BODYBUILDER BESIDE MYSELF OFCOURSE,, BECAUSE THEY LIED TO YOU ,,THEY STILL DO ,,DAILY BAISS,,YOU HAVE FEW IN PARTICULAR GH15 DESPIZE ,,THE RON HARIS FELLA,,THE LIAR PRIEST FELLA,,THOSE ARE LIARS WITH NO CONSQEUENCES TO THEIR ACTION THAT ACTUALLY BENEFIT FINANCICALY BY BEING WHITE COLOR IN A PLACE THAT IS VERY VERY BLUE ,,DARK BLUE COLOR,,MAYBE EVEN BLACK COLOR,,
so im just suggesting those fellas to look clsely behind their back because sometimes when you go too far,,you get it from the back back at you ,,
gh15 approved
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Skip La Cour
Danny Hester
Ron Harris (after spending that time with Dorian couldn't help himself anymore)
So many others
What about that Asian looking dude, not the little Hawaiian, but the one in all the mags "pretty boy"???
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you are nothing,,and if you dont shut up im gonna found who you are easy to do with the crazys on this site,,nail you down to the t ,,and surprize you with a delivery of goodies with your local sherif department,,
now go back to your cave if you like to still be your local no where to be found town bodybuilding hero,,
gh15 approved
I was here before you, mother.fucker. You are nothing but a 15 year-old kid with a copy of the "Steroid Bible". I am going to fuck you in the ass when I find you. You truly are a nimrod of titanic proportions. You were probably raped by your dad which is why you are so obsessed with being strong, to overcome the trauma and ensure that wil never happen to you again.
Trust me, bitch, I am going to find out who you are and expose you. Your days in this board are over. I am going to prove to everyone that you're a teenage kid sitting behind your computer. Your days are over.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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gh15 you are very entertaining. No such thing as overtraining even if natural and you could take Ryan Syrcast and in 12 months make him hold his own against one of the best BB right now Phil health. Do you dislike Phil so much because he has risen to the top so fast and making good money? Did you see Phil when he played D1 basketball, the black man had good muscular shape and even calves and Ryan S can hange with him in 12 months. Can't wait to see him compete in the MR O. Some things you say make alot of sense and other times you must be stoned, but you have brought alot of entertainment to a rather boring sport.
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gh15 you are very entertaining. No such thing as overtraining even if natural
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THERE IS SUCH A THING AS OVER TRAINING! with or with out drug
gh15 approved
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The guys that I knew back in late eightes and early ninties (90-93) didn't mess with insulin and they were pretty big IFBB dudes. They did run a total of about 6 to 8 grams of anabolics/androgenics a week. The GH was alot also, can't remember what they said.
I would really like to know what exactly Sepe took to "thin" up his body like that.
6-8 grams is a ton. dude that is way to high. Iwould say 2-4 would be more realistic ::) dennis newman admitted to insulin in the early 90s in a interview for example.
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I was here before you, mother.fucker. You are nothing but a 15 year-old kid with a copy of the "Steroid Bible". I am going to fuck you in the ass when I find you. You truly are a nimrod of titanic proportions. You were probably raped by your dad which is why you are so obsessed with being strong, to overcome the trauma and ensure that wil never happen to you again.
Trust me, bitch, I am going to find out who you are and expose you. Your days in this board are over. I am going to prove to everyone that you're a teenage kid sitting behind your computer. Your days are over.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL you are such a troll. Remember this? I have good memory. :D
GH15 is a known drug dealer in Europe. And I'm saying drug dealer and not steroid dealer because sauce represents less than 5% of his sales. He mostly sells E and ketamine, and he lost lots of dough last year when one of his shipments of ketamine from Poland got intercepted by British customs and Interpol at Heathrow airport. He did start out many years ago, 15 to be exactly, selling bodybuilding drugs but moved on to grander ventures. He is essentially a frustrated bodybuilder at heart, like so many yokels at this board, and pretending to be a pro and having the intellectually challenged give him attention is a thrill to him. I know everything about GH15 as I had his IP address traced and it leads to Antwerp, which so happens to have one of the biggest shipyards in Europe, which is just all so convenient for a man who ears his living in the "import/export" business. Anyone with an intelligence at or above the average 6 grader has never taken any of GH15's claims seriously. He lied about having inside info on the presidential campaign and also lied about revealing his identity. In case anyone wonders what's the identity of this fraud, drug dealer and overral scumbag, his name is Marcel Pelétier MacFaden. His mom was French and his dad Scottish - and was an aid at the British embassy in Oslo for 20 years -, and his double nationality helps him in his profession as he can travel freely between the continent and the U.K and use his double nationality to flee the law in either country and seek asylum in the other in case of legal prosecution.
SUCKMYMUSLCE
So I am lying and GH15 is telling the truth? You have a very skewed sense of reality, dude. But I have disclosed what I found out about him. Anyone can use a router to discover his IP address and then trace it. I will feed my liver to dogs if I'm lying about this. I traced the IP and it goes to Antwerp to an address that is registered in the name of Marcel Pelétier MacFaden, who just so happens to have a previous arrest record for dealing E and ketamine. Do you really think this is a mere coincidence?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
A 15 year old E and Ketamine dealer sitting in Antwerp? :D :D :D
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LOL you are such a troll. Remember this? I have good memory. :D
A 15 year old E and Ketamine dealer sitting in Antwerp? :D :D :D
Owned.
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No such thing as overtraining? Are you being serious man? Could it be that you are David or Peter Paul ;D "No such thing as overtraining, only undereating" 8)
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insulin was around in the early 90's
Insulin has been around since the 1940's, bodybuilders weren't using it regularly until the mid-late 90's
esp. a guy that wasn't really that interested in pro bodybuilding like Frank Sepe
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Owned.
X2. Sucky, you suck
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I was here before you, mother.fucker. You are nothing but a 15 year-old kid with a copy of the "Steroid Bible". I am going to fuck you in the ass when I find you. You truly are a nimrod of titanic proportions. You were probably raped by your dad which is why you are so obsessed with being strong, to overcome the trauma and ensure that wil never happen to you again.
Trust me, bitch, I am going to find out who you are and expose you. Your days in this board are over. I am going to prove to everyone that you're a teenage kid sitting behind your computer. Your days are over.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
if you got info as in real name of thi fella ,,pm me
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if you got info as in real name of thi fella ,,pm me
gh15 approved
Nobody does.
I think he is just some megalomaniac meth head.
I seem to remember him talking about his meth habit a while back.
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gh15 you are very entertaining. No such thing as overtraining even if natural and you could take Ryan Syrcast and in 12 months make him hold his own against one of the best BB right now Phil health. Do you dislike Phil so much because he has risen to the top so fast and making good money? Did you see Phil when he played D1 basketball, the black man had good muscular shape and even calves and Ryan S can hange with him in 12 months. Can't wait to see him compete in the MR O. Some things you say make alot of sense and other times you must be stoned, but you have brought alot of entertainment to a rather boring sport.
listen,,EITHER YOU LEARN TO READ MY POSTING AND REREAD THEM 200 TIMES BEFORE TALKIN TO ME,,OR JUST DONT POST TO ME AT ALL,,
GH15 NEVER SAID THERE IS NO OVER TRAINING,,GH 15 SAID YES IN THAT POST YOU REFERING TOOOOO,,GO LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN THE LAST SENTENCE CAPITAL ,,,THAT THEREE ISSSSS OVER TRAINING WETHER ON DRUGS OR WITH OUT DRUGS,,OVERTRAINING IS VERY SERIOUS THING,,AND THERE IS SUCH A THING,,SO YOU DIDNT READ THE BIBLE RIGHT,,GO RE READ BEFORE YOU JUMP
SECONDLY,,
PHIL HEATH IS NOT A BODYBUILDER,,HE IS A DRUG ADDICT,,HE IS FULL OF AAS GH INSULIN AND SEO HIS ARMS ARE NOT ONLY FROM HORMONES,,HE IS DOING WHAT KEV DID ONLY TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,HE IS ON EVERYTHING ASND ANYTHING,,HE LACK EVERYTHING IN BODYBUILDING ASPECT,,HIS PECS ARE VERY VERY PAD WHEN IT COMES TO CALVICLE STRUCTURE,,HE IS VEREY NARRROW YET GH MAKES HIM LOOK WIDE DUE TO DELTS GROWING ,,HE IS A 175LB 5'9 FELLA THAT IS ON A LOT MORE THAN YOU THINK ,,HE IS DESPIZED BECAUSE HE IS WHATS WRONG WITH BODYBUILDING,,
UNLIKE JASON CUTLER ,,PHIL HEATH DID NOT PUT ANY WORK INTO BECOMING THE DRYG BLOW UP DOLL HE BECAME,,THERE IS NO SOLID FOUNDATION THERE,,
HE IS THE DEFINITION OF DRUG ADDICT,,AND ANYONE WHO GIVE THIS FELLA O TITLE RISK BODYBUILDING IN A BLACK BLACK STAIN THAT WILL BE LABELED FOR EVER AS ALL DRUGS,,
FOR NOT TO FORGET....ANYONE BEFORE FROM JASON TO LARRY HAD BIG BIG FOUNDATION THEY BUILT ON ,,THEY DIDNT JUST GET INTO MEGA DOSING BECAUSE THEY WERE PLAYING AROUND IN GYM AND JUST RESPONDED WELL TO DRUGS,,THEY ALSO DIDNT TAKE THE KEN WHEELER OIL SCHOOL AND PUT IT IN HARD DRIVE LIKE PHIL HEATH DONE,,
HE IS SHAME FOR BODYBUILDING,,HE IS WHATS WRONG WITH IT,,
TO ALL OF THOSE WHO SAY IS CONDITION IS LIKE KEN BACK IN THE DAY OF 1993 ,,YOU ARE DREAMING,,PHIL HEATH WILL NEVER BE GRANITE CHISELES OR ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO DORIAN OR EVEN TO KEN IN THE WAY THE MUSCLES ARE IN SUPERB CONDITION AND SEPERATED TO THE T,,WHY? BECAUSE PHIL HEATH IS ALLLLLLLLLLLL DRUGS,,
I CAN GARENTEE YOU RYAN SYRCAST IS PHIL HEATH SIZE AND MOST LIKLEY CONDITION PROBABLY WITH BETTER CHEST EVENTHOUGH IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO HEATH SINCE RYAN SYRCAST SUFFEER FROM SAME NARROW CALVICLES ,,BUT I CAN GARENTEE YOU I CAN MAKE HIM EXACTLY THE LEVL OF PHIL HEATH DEVELOPMENT IN 12 MONTHS NOT 24 ,,,12! AND THIS IS BECAUSE PHIL HEATH HAS NO FOUNDATION ,,HE JUMPED ON THE WAGON CALLED BODYBUILDING DUE TO GOOD RESPONSE TO DRUGS AND THAT WAS IT,,
HE FOOL A LOT OF PEOPLE BTU IN REALITY HE HOLD THE MOST RISK TO BODYBUILDING NOW DAYS,,THE RESASON JASON TOOK THE TITLE LAST TIME WAS BECAUSE THE JUDGES KNEW THAT PHIL HEATH IS A BIG BLUB OF RISK ,,HE IS ALL BLOW UP AIR IN THE MUSCLE,,IT IS VERY VERY BAD
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LOL you are such a troll. Remember this? I have good memory. :D
A 15 year old E and Ketamine dealer sitting in Antwerp? :D :D :D
What is the point of this? I never stated who he is...I said I assume he is either a 1 year-old kid or a drug dealer? How is this a contradiction? How am I owned?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Nobody does.
I think he is just some megalomaniac meth head.
I seem to remember him talking about his meth habit a while back.
Why the attack on me? I thought we were on the same side :(
When have I ever said I use meth or some shit? You, Sir, are a gigantic liar. :-\
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Feed your liver to your dog
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Owned.
How am I owned? Please explain to me? I never said who GH15 is. I said I assume he is either a drug dealer or some kid sitting behind his computer. Which he is. I never claimed he was one or the other.
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How the hell can you trace his i.p thrpugh this site. At best you'd get The servers I.P
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You said he was marcel mcfaden now......your liver
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How the hell can you trace his i.p thrpugh this site. At best you'd get The servers I.P
Ron can see IPs, and moderators can too. How can I see IPs? I can't. Not now. But there are equipment out there that allow you to see them. The F.B.I finds a lot of pedophiles tracing IPs.
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Most ips are scrambled these days unless you send an e-mail
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Owned.
Shockwave, it is a tough run between you, Johny Falcon and Coach to see who is the biggest imbecile in this board. The fact that you think I got owned when in reality there was no ownage at all, as well as that you think GH15 is a pro, goes to show what a dolt you are. I was actually embarassed to have you in the Dorian side during the time of the Truce Thread. Nothing of what you ever claim is true. Remember when you said that Fedor could never be beaten because he didn't know how to lose, and I told you that everyone loses because they have their limits, and a couple days latter he tapped in one minute? You = idiot. You are also a fucking liar making up that I am a meth addict when in reality I have never even tried meth in my life.
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Ron can see IPs, and moderators can too. How can I see IPs? I can't. Not now. But there are equipment out there that allow you to see them. The F.B.I finds a lot of pedophiles tracing IPs.
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No K9 is safe when Sucky is on the job :D
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Shockwave, it is a tough run between you, Johny Falcon and Coach to see who is the biggest imbecile in this board. The fact that you think I got owned when in reality there was no ownage at all, as well as that you think GH15 is a pro, goes to show what a dolt you are. I was actually embarassed to have you in the Dorian side during the time of the Truce Thread. Nothing of what you ever claim is true. Remember when you said that Fedor could never be beaten because he didn't know how to lose, and I told you that everyone loses because they have their limits, and a couple days latter he tapped in one minute? You = idiot. You are also a fucking liar making up that I am a meth addict when in reality I have never even tried meth in my life.
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Hahahaha epic rewriting your post cause I hurt your feelings.
Youre the one that embarrasses yourself, youre the laughingstock of the board, but somehow you actually believe all the shit you spew about how intelligent and superior you are, which is a sure sign that you are have a serious inferiority complex.
You have issues kid, and there isnt a single person on here that takes you seriously or actually thinks youre intelligent.
But keep believing your own hype, and keep trying to impress people with big words, cause maybe there is someone on here stupid enough to buy it.
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How am I owned? Please explain to me? I never said who GH15 is. I said I assume he is either a drug dealer or some kid sitting behind his computer. Which he is. I never claimed he was one or the other.
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GH15 is a known drug dealer in Europe. And I'm saying drug dealer and not steroid dealer because sauce represents less than 5% of his sales. He mostly sells E and ketamine, and he lost lots of dough last year when one of his shipments of ketamine from Poland got intercepted by British customs and Interpol at Heathrow airport. He did start out many years ago, 15 to be exactly, selling bodybuilding drugs but moved on to grander ventures. He is essentially a frustrated bodybuilder at heart, like so many yokels at this board, and pretending to be a pro and having the intellectually challenged give him attention is a thrill to him. I know everything about GH15 as I had his IP address traced and it leads to Antwerp, which so happens to have one of the biggest shipyards in Europe, which is just all so convenient for a man who ears his living in the "import/export" business. Anyone with an intelligence at or above the average 6 grader has never taken any of GH15's claims seriously. He lied about having inside info on the presidential campaign and also lied about revealing his identity. In case anyone wonders what's the identity of this fraud, drug dealer and overral scumbag, his name is Marcel Pelétier MacFaden. His mom was French and his dad Scottish - and was an aid at the British embassy in Oslo for 20 years -, and his double nationality helps him in his profession as he can travel freely between the continent and the U.K and use his double nationality to flee the law in either country and seek asylum in the other in case of legal prosecution.
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owned again.
You're a fucking pussy, SMM.
The fun thing is that YOU are the angry kid, not gh15.
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Hahahaha epic rewriting your post cause I hurt your feelings.
Youre the one that embarrasses yourself, youre the laughingstock of the board, but somehow you actually believe all the shit you spew about how intelligent and superior you are, which is a sure sign that you are have a serious inferiority complex.
You have issues kid, and there isnt a single person on here that takes you seriously or actually thinks youre intelligent.
But keep believing your own hype, and keep trying to impress people with big words, cause maybe there is someone on here stupid enough to buy it.
Shockwave, I gota be honest with you: I do think that I am more intelligent than you, but this is besides the point. You made an accusation, and I am waiting for proof. Show me where I have stated that I am a meth user? I am waiting.
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Dear God, Is it easier for a natural trainer to overtrain, or is it is easier for a chemically enhanced fella to overtrain? Yeah I know that it sounds like a pretty stupid question, but a pretty knowledgable fella that I know with a 700 pound bench press to his credit told me that it's actually easier for an enhanced fella to overtrain since the chemicals enable him to use greater loads while training.
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Dear God, Is it easier for a natural trainer to overtrain, or is it is easier for a chemically enhanced fella to overtrain? Yeah I know that it sounds like a pretty stupid question, but a pretty knowledgable fella that I know with a 700 pound bench press to his credit told me that it's actually easier for an enhanced fella to overtrain since the chemicals enable him to use greater loads while training.
Well a 700 pound bench press will tax your recovery more so than a 200 lb bench, the body has limited amount of recovery.
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Shockwave, I gota be honest with you: I do think that I am more intelligent than you, but this is besides the point. You made an accusation, and I am waiting for proof. Show me where I have stated that I am a meth user? I am waiting.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I thought I remembered you posting something about it years ago; I could be wrong. Either way Im not wasting hours of my life going through your post history to prove a point on teh interwebs against you of all people.
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owned again.
You're a fucking pussy, SMM.
The fun thing is that YOU are the angry kid, not gh15.
Oh look, it's my stalker.
You can't possibly have believed that ridiculous story. What an incredible dumbass you are. No wonder you believe GH15 is a pro. Of course I made that up. I have sustained several times after that I don't know who GH15, and everytime I said that(many times) it was an obvious retraction of that post. I have said many times I don't know who GH15 is but I think that he is a 15 year-old kid or a steroid dealer. So it's not like I changed my story, even though the anecdote I told was obviously a joke. You were just too slow to catch on that. :)
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Oh look, it's my stalker.
You can't possibly have believed that ridiculous story. What an incredible dumbass you are. No wonder you believe GH15 is a pro. Of course I made that up. I have sustained several times after that I don't know who GH15, and everytime I said that(many times) it was an obvious retraction of that post. I have said many times I don't know who GH15 is but I think that he is a 15 year-old kid or a steroid dealer. So it's not like I changed my story, even though the anecdote I told was obviously a joke. You were just too slow to catch on that. :)
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LOL, meltdown.
Why do you feel the need to justify yourself all the time??
You're a retard. I said it 1000 times, i only post to piss you off, i don't give a shit about contents, or if i am "resonable" or not, i just want to piss you off, i tell you so, and STILL you fall for it every time.
You're so dumb, it's the best laugh i have these days on getbig, next to Fatpanda's "diet" log, lol.
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I thought I remembered you posting something about it years ago; I could be wrong. Either way Im not wasting hours of my life going through your post history to prove a point on teh interwebs against you of all people.
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Just like I thought...you know, Ron doesen't like posters to make accusations of a personal matter against other posters. And yeah, you could never prove anything in a debate having me as an opponent. I know that. You are not a worthy rival for me.
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Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Just like I thought...you know, Ron doesen't like posters to make accusations of a personal matter against other posters. And yeah, you could never prove anything in a debate having me as an opponent. I know that. You are not a worthy rival for me.
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LOL, meltdown.
Why do you feel the need to justify yourself all the time??
You're a retard. I said it 1000 times, i only post to piss you off, i don't give a shit about contents, or if i am "resonable" or not, i just want to piss you off, i tell you so, and STILL you fall for it every time.
You're so dumb, it's the best laugh i have these days on getbig, next to Fatpanda's "diet" log, lol.
Oh please, you keep quoting my posts and saying condescending things to me because my brilliance and superior knowledge deeply upsets you. You don't like the fact that I love myself and yes, that I think that I am better than you so you keep stalking me to try to prove me wrong every chance you get just so that you can "rub it in". You know it's true. ;) This proves that I own your mind and that it is me who annoys you and not the other way around. ;D You thought you had struck gold with this and you were wrong again. As usual. My story hasn't changed one bit. I always sustained that he was a steroid dealer. :)
Keep posting, Donkey. I will annoy you until you have a heart attack. You are melting down behind your computer screen and I am as calm as a cocumber just laughing it all out. ;)
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Curious gh15, what caused Dorian to have that look he did?
The rock hard polished marble look?
Was it thin skin? Certain drugs? all or none of the above?
You have pretty much answered your own question SW.
The right combo of AAS (halo, masteron, winni, tren to name a few) & diuretics coupled with response to said drugs. And of course having incredibly low BF levels
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LOL, meltdown.
Why do you feel the need to justify yourself all the time??
You're a retard. I said it 1000 times, i only post to piss you off, i don't give a shit about contents, or if i am "resonable" or not, i just want to piss you off, i tell you so, and STILL you fall for it every time.
You're so dumb, it's the best laugh i have these days on getbig, next to Fatpanda's "diet" log, lol.
lol you goin to cause him a heart atack,,yoru post are too lethal ,, he is sitting there all eating hsi finger nail smoke coming out of his eraslol
guys a kookoo
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Oh please, you keep quoting my posts and saying condescending things to me because my brilliance and superior knowledge deeply upsets you. You don't like the fact that I love myself and yes, that I think that I am better than you so you keep stalking me to try to prove me wrong every chance you get just so that you can "rub it in". You know it's true. ;) This proves that I own your mind and that it is me who annoys you and not the other way around. ;D You thought you had struck gold with this and you were wrong again. As usual. My story hasn't changed one bit. I always sustained that he was a steroid dealer. :)
Keep posting, Donkey. I will annoy you until you have a heart attack. You are melting down behind your computer screen and I am as calm as a cocumber just laughing it all out. ;)
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LOL you sure make the impression of a calm guy, dumbass. ::) ::)
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but drugs aren't the answer to everything..
I know a guy
Of course they aren't, just the answer to being a pro on stage today.
I know a guy too, but that too is irrelevant to this discussion.
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you take donky ,,probably one of the most lethal poster on get big history,,causes massive hysteria and meltdown from past posers if i rememebr correctly ,,and put him against suckmuscle lol a complete unstable fella that is one step away from going out in public full of rage and do damage,,
i think donkey may be the last straw before the damage is finally done :D
gh15 approved
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you take donky ,,probably one of the most lethal poster on get big history,,causes massive hysteria and meltdown from past posers if i rememebr correctly ,,and put him against suckmuscle lol a complete unstable fella that is one step away from going out in public full of rage and do damage,,
i think donkey may be the last straw before the damage is finally done :D
gh15 approved
Weakest gh gimmick post, ever!? not even trying, any more. ::)
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you take donky ,,probably one of the most lethal poster on get big history,,causes massive hysteria and meltdown from past posers if i rememebr correctly ,,and put him against suckmuscle lol a complete unstable fella that is one step away from going out in public full of rage and do damage,,
i think donkey may be the last straw before the damage is finally done :D
gh15 approved
LOL, thanks a lot. ;D ;D ;D
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God, did your shoe, hat or glove size change significantly when you started crushing 15 i.u. of GH for prolonged periods?
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Weakest gh gimmick post, ever!? not even trying, any more. ::)
Are you saying i switched accounts too fast this time?? :o :o :o :o
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Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Just like I thought...you know, Ron doesen't like posters to make accusations of a personal matter against other posters. And yeah, you could never prove anything in a debate having me as an opponent. I know that. You are not a worthy rival for me.
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Youre probably right.
Unlike you, who can take on an entire swat team, or kill german shepards barehandendly. :o
Keep melting left and right when people dont respect you Mr. Board vet, and everyone else will keep laughing at you while you think youre showing everyone what a badass you are. Hahaha!
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Youre probably right.
Unlike you, who can take on an entire swat team, or kill german shepards barehandendly. :o
Keep melting left and right when people dont respect you Mr. Board vet, and everyone else will keep laughing at you while you think youre showing everyone what a badass you are. Hahaha!
I think SMM has spent most of his youth wanting to become a pilot because all he could ever dream off was spending his whole life in a cock-pit.
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I think SMM has spent most of his youth wanting to become a pilot because all he could ever dream off was spending his whole life in a cock-pit.
Donkeykong! Are you saying that SMM is the kind of guy who would hang out in his gym locker room, and walk straight up to the old guy drying his balls with the hand-dryer, and say, "Hey there stud, no need to take up that hand dryer, Ill take care of it for you! Dont mind if I put it in my mouth, I just cant help myself!" :o
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Donkeykong! Are you saying that SMM is the kind of guy who would hang out in his gym locker room, and walk straight up to the old guy drying his balls with the hand-dryer, and say, "Hey there stud, no need to take up that hand dryer, Ill take care of it for you! Dont mind if I put it in my mouth, I just cant help myself!" :o
I think that would be exactly his idea of "picking up a new idea in the gym."
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I think that would be exactly his idea of "picking up a new idea in the gym."
Writing a good homage to Dave is harder than it looks. That one wasnt nearly as funny after I re-read it. :-X
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LOL you sure make the impression of a calm guy, dumbass.
Donkey, the picture of the ape in your avatar suits you perfectly. Every time I read one of your posts, this is how I imagine you. Lol. Anyway, you keep quoting my posts and trying to own me and failing again and again. It goes to show who owns who's mind. Seriously, it is hilarious how badly you want to embarass me and make me feel bad about myself. At the end of the day, the joke is on you because I couldn't care less about how the board sees me. Oh, and 90% of the things I post here are in good fun. I just like to get people riled up. ;)
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SMM STFU I haven't really paid much attention to your posts in the past, but the last couple of days I have come to the conclusion your a total prick. For a 'board vet' you sure act like a hormonal teenager and not like the 'respected elder' image you profess to being.
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I'd love to see Ryan Seacrest win the O 8)
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Of they aren't, just the answer to being a pro on stage today.
I know a guy too, but that too is irrelevant to this discussion.
Good for you.. don't we all do.. but it's not irrelevant.. in fact it's the whole story...
wrong !
i can garentee you if gh15 take a fella like ryan syrcast from american idol program in americana ,,work with him 12 months! ,,this fella become a national level competitor with good chance to stand his own against phillip heath ,,
the 200lb fella you talk about playing with poop most likley bunk or underdosed or just no goodsource,,or he just dont care about bodybuilding and does it for recreatiuonal meaning,,dont eat enough ,,party ,,girls,,drinks,,wasted,,lots of pressure and stress,,travel ,,etc
THATS HOW MUCH ALL DRUGS PHILLIP HEATH IS! i garentee you syrcast ryan would be standing toe to toe with him after 12 months of gh15 advice and application of program
you fellas got to understand it!
gh15 approved
Obviously you... scratch that, whoever used the account months ago felt pretty strong that "response to drugs" is a huge part of the equation if not the make it or break it... now you're contradicting yourself...
I just love how sub 190lb twinks keep thinking drugs is the key to reach size of guys like me & others who are just big to start with.. we grow just looking at weights... can layoff for months and still hang around 240lb.. what if "we" get on those "regiments".... kinda like the guy who's affraid to fly and think he can become a pilot after popping two Xanax... :-X
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keys to the equation:
1. drugs
2. food
3. progressive overload
4. belief in your ability to look like you want to
dont doubt the importanct of number 3 AND number 4. take out any one of those 4 factors and you will fail
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keys to the equation:
1. drugs
2. food
3. progressive overload
4. belief in your ability to look like you want to
dont doubt the importanct of number 3 AND number 4. take out any one of those 4 factors and you will fail
0. Genetics to start with...
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0. Genetics to start with...
i think factor 4 is much more involved with genetics than most people realize, but your right, genetics do come into play that is for sure, however i dont think theres anybody out there with such horrible genetics that they cant look like a bodybuilder if they got those 4 factors going.
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seacrest owns
massive chest
(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2009/01/ryan-seacrest-simon-cowell-jetski.jpg)
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i think factor 4 is much more involved with genetics than most people realize, but your right, genetics do come into play that is for sure, however i dont think theres anybody out there with such horrible genetics that they cant look like a bodybuilder if they got those 4 factors going.
Anybody can "look" like a "bodybuilder"... not anyone can get to the national level, less turning "pro".. I"m not putting these mofos on a pedestal, just being realistic...
there's a tolerance and dosage factor at some point; where guy X (gifted) can reach competing size on lower dosage... Guy Y, ectomorph needs several grams to barely reach the same size... guess which guy will get there first and not be slowed by sides and health issues..
that doesn't even put in consideration muscle shape, attachments, which you can't DO ANYTHING ABOUT (ie small chest)...
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Define "food" tbombz? FYI, I'm not being a smartass wit dis question. Also... Confidence in results does play a HUGE part
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wrong !
i garentee you syrcast ryan would be standing toe to toe with him after 12 months of gh15 advice and application of program
you fellas got to understand it!
gh15 approved
God, these fuckers still aren't bowing down to your generosity/knowledge. Put me on your program and make me mutantize. Fuck Ryan Seacrest
PM me
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test tren masteron eq gh
there u go.
oh make sure u get legit products or you wont grow.
and eatttttttttttttt
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Good for you.. don't we all do.. but it's not irrelevant.. in fact it's the whole story...
Obviously you... scratch that, whoever used the account months ago felt pretty strong that "response to drugs" is a huge part of the equation if not the make it or break it... now you're contradicting yourself...
I just love how sub 190lb twinks keep thinking drugs is the key to reach size of guys like me & others who are just big to start with.. we grow just looking at weights... can layoff for months and still hang around 240lb.. what if "we" get on those "regiments".... kinda like the guy who's affraid to fly and think he can become a pilot after popping two Xanax... :-X
wait a second here,,alex23 you are calling yourself a big fella? just because someone weigh 240 does not make him big fella,,HEAVY AND BIG ARE TOO DIFFERENT THINGS,,LARGE FRAME AND ACTUALY LARGE AS IN BIG FELLA DUE TO LEAN MUSCLE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT,,
just to get your head down to the ground,,you got to read what im saying here and understand itk,,gh15 is same person always been alwys will be,,but you are NOT BIG ,,you are HEAVY not big,, you have big bone structure but you are heavy not big,,your arms are not even msuring 17 inch and you are 240 ,,do you understand that at 200lb average genetic respond fellas already have 18 inch arms? 200lb! 17.5 to 18 inch and thats average respond fellas,,
also you hold a lot of body fat if you go down to true 9 % you are a 190lb lifter,,read it again 190lb lifter at 9% m,,thats not a big fella for bodybuilding now day at the height talking about and at the frame you present,,and you are on hormones and those are your hormonized numbers,,so! in your case if you want to call yourdself big fella you also need to have 20 inch arms and shwo a waist mesuring 34 inches or 35 not 39 or 40 ,,thats bodybuilding and that can only come from hormones and specific hormones such as gh and aas combined,,
bodybuilding is ALL hormones,,al rest of the shit is secondary at best
remember being chubb chubb americano fella at 240 does not mean big when you walk around 22-28 % body fat and i estimate you at very close to 20%,,yes with muscle btu you at best day i seen were 16% and i seen you much more at around 20-22% with some muscle yes but nothing even remotely to big ,,
ask bodybuilder who know bodybuiuling,,ask the fellas who know bodybuilding since im gimick.....lol im only control the bodybuilding hormone world with iron fist but dont ask me ,,ask the people who know,,you will get exact same answer
we live and breath bodybuildign 24 7 we know it like our own right hand ,,you cant fool us ,,no one can ,,we see you fro 5 second we can analyz your hormone intake to the t and also how really big you are even if you walk with a nice big shirt or jacket or whatever else
gh15 approved
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Anybody can "look" like a "bodybuilder"... not anyone can get to the national level, less turning "pro".. I"m not putting these mofos on a pedestal, just being realistic...
there's a tolerance and dosage factor at some point; where guy X (gifted) can reach competing size on lower dosage... Guy Y, ectomorph needs several grams to barely reach the same size... guess which guy will get there first and not be slowed by sides and health issues..
that doesn't even put in consideration muscle shape, attachments, which you can't DO ANYTHING ABOUT (ie small chest)...
listen ,,any oen can do nationals ,,any one can do country shows,,any one can do it ,,you dont get it ITS ALL HGH,,it is all doses of roids that increase because more hgh supply to body ,,more hgh = capacity to work with larger doses of aas,,and that bring the big physiqe into play ,,some can do it on lower doses,,but they are also shorter and smaller,,
muscle shape is balonie,,i can show you 300 black fellas and italian fellas with great muscle shape that are stuck at 5'10 152lb and eat their mommy and daddy,,they just dont take hormones and trust me they train their ass but they go up to 175 lb 10% or 6% 150 somiething
thats the all story behind bodybuilding,,gh and aas combination
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listen ,,any oen can do nationals ,,any one can do country shows,,any one can do it ,,you dont get it ITS ALL HGH,,it is all doses of roids that increase because more hgh supply to body ,,more hgh = capacity to work with larger doses of aas,,and that bring the big physiqe into play ,,some can do it on lower doses,,but they are also shorter and smaller,,
muscle shape is balonie,,i can show you 300 black fellas and italian fellas with great muscle shape that are stuck at 5'10 152lb and eat their mommy and daddy,,they just dont take hormones and trust me they train their ass but they go up to 175 lb 10% or 6% 150 somiething
thats the all story behind bodybuilding,,gh and aas combination
gh15 approved
:o
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test tren masteron eq gh
there u go.
oh make sure u get legit products or you wont grow.
and eatttttttttttttt
pretty much ,,and also the big fella you all adore,,they are drug addicts ,,they never go off anything always on continous usage,,they have no time to train like you think they do ,,they have stresses of life,,relashionship,,family ,,money to live,,guest posing,,contracts,,depresseion ,,addiction to other medications,,medication to fight addiction to other meds,,and most importanly they compete all the time lol they go on stage ,,they diet their brains out or atleast tell you they do lol but reality is not exactly like that,,they knwo their body ,,they know what and when and how much they can eat from years over years of doing same damn thing,,but rest assure when you compete and has resiriction on a lot of things,,what grow you is hormone,,even when you eat what you want what grow you is hormone,,it is how you respond to it how much you can tolaerate it,,and how much of it you got in your hand and how much of it is actual legit ,,you get the picture here,,they dont have time to work out as much as you think ,,they go around all do same shit,,its all drugs now days get it in your head,,
what they have time to do is to get the 15 iu of gh like burn victims,,to actually do it not only say it,,to do it prolonged time inorder to grow into mutant ,,have enogugh aas to blow this new size up,,and ofcourse then out of no where shrink when they kill their kidnys from diuiretic usage,, or other problem you dont hear about that they go to hospital for and they do ,,
i know friends that branch reasd gh15 all the time,,i also knwo jason read gh15 and also most other professionals,,they know what i say is true ,,but! they also make money of this life style ,,and thats the pattern they chose and the consequenses they will pay ,,i will pay it too,,the difference is jason did enough money to have good care at the end,,many others did not,,
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Anybody can "look" like a "bodybuilder"... not anyone can get to the national level, less turning "pro".. I"m not putting these mofos on a pedestal, just being realistic...
there's a tolerance and dosage factor at some point; where guy X (gifted) can reach competing size on lower dosage... Guy Y, ectomorph needs several grams to barely reach the same size... guess which guy will get there first and not be slowed by sides and health issues..
that doesn't even put in consideration muscle shape, attachments, which you can't DO ANYTHING ABOUT (ie small chest)...
i would argue that guy Y and guy X, while they may have some different genetic attributes, the main differecne between their response and growth lies in their attitudes towards themeselves and towards training. the guy who could get to national/pro level on a moderate doseage and get there rather quickly never thought he would have to use large amounts for long periods of times. he probably thought he could look close to a pro just by training natural. his attitude towards himself and towards his body and his training bred success. while the guy who needed grams per week for years upon years never thought he could really look like a pro, andhe felt that growth was going to be painstaking and dreadfully slow process... self fulfilling prophecy at work. i would bet that this holds true for every pro bodybuilder our there+they all believed they could look like they look now, long before they ever looked anythign close to it. ten you take a guy like billy gunz or ron harris or deicide or anybody else who supposedly has "bad genetics".. they never thought they could reallly grow, no matter what they did. they just never allowed themselves to. your brain controls your body and your mind controls your brain.
Define "food" tbombz? FYI, I'm not being a smartass wit dis question. Also... Confidence in results does play a HUGE part
food would be defined by the individual. enough protein and enough caloires. but you gotta find what works ffor you.
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pretty much ,,and also the big fella you all adore,,they are drug addicts ,,they never go off anything always on continous usage,,they have no time to train like you think they do ,,they have stresses of life,,relashionship,,family ,,money to live,,guest posing,,contracts,,depresseion ,,addiction to other medications,,medication to fight addiction to other meds,,you get the picture here,,they dont have time to work out as much as you think ,,they go around all do same shit,,its all drugs now days get it in your head,,
what they have time to do is to get the 15 iu of gh like burn victims,,to actually do it not only say it,,to do it prolonged time inorder to grow into mutant ,,have enogugh aas to blow this new size up,,and ofcourse then out of no where shrink when they kill their kidnys from diuiretic usage,, or other problem you dont hear about that they go to hospital for and they do ,,
i know friends that branch reasd gh15 all the time,,i also knwo jason read gh15 and also most other professionals,,they know what i say is true ,,but! they also make money of this life style ,,and thats the pattern they chose and the consequenses they will pay ,,i will pay it too,,the difference is jason did enough money to have good care at the end,,many others did not,,
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So GH15 give me an example of Frank Sepe's fitness cycle.
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So GH15 give me an example of Frank Sepe's fitness cycle.
inorder to look like frank sepe of later year ,,you need to start like bodybuilder doses,,there is no escape,,inorder to look like agi kalev you first need to be mr isrsael 5 times and be thick mother fucker that consider huge to the general public,,inorder to look like the stupid wrestler i forgot his name the most famous one not dwayne the other one irish younger i talk about him sometime with disgustlol ,,any inorder to look like him oh cena cena is his name,,you also need to start bodybuildign to begin with with the doses of bodybuilding and approach of bodybuilding
they all been very big before,,even the ones who can not look good big were bgi like kalev,,
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Oh shit! My all-time best peak condition was 157 at 5'11" at sub-6 naturally, and God said something spot on with dat, the 5'10" 152 sub-6 black or italian fella. I'd like to be 175 to 180 sub-6 naturally, but God put them at 10% at 175. I'm not black or italian, but I gots lots of German and Austrian blood in me, so maybe that will enable me to hit 175 sub-6 ;D But on a serious note, I did see where God states that a 5'11" natural fella could max out at 175 sub-6
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well if you had here liar danta or liar priest or liar haris they would all tell you storys from here to china and back ,,more than all hormones they order from china put together,,the reaility is that the gifted ones walk around 180 8-10 % 5'10 or so ,,those are the real real gifted naturals who really really have high natural gh in body ,,but thats about it ,,
people just dont understand what it is to b e8% true 8% they hav no clue,,if i only counted the times 12% came to me and said he was 8% and holding water..... id be richer than i am now ,,yes sometime its water with hormonizing fellas its a lot of water confused with fat especially if on gh ,,butwith natural 12% aint no 8% ,,the 8% will look solid very lean mean squared look,,
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gh15 has been on fire lately! I'm sitting here going thru his posts from the last week.
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SMM STFU I haven't really paid much attention to your posts in the past, but the last couple of days I have come to the conclusion your a total prick. For a 'board vet' you sure act like a hormonal teenager and not like the 'respected elder' image you profess to being.
Because that is what he is. ;D ;D
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Genetics have shit to do with being a top national or pro at least in this day and age. All I see today is crappy looking mutants who have forced their muscles to grow with tons of drugs. Years ago 70's 80's early 90's you had guys who had great response to the high doses they took along with the muscle shape to go along with it. Since bbing is not too popular these days with the younger crowd, you rarely see anyone up and coming today that is any good. Phil Heath is the best we got TODAY, but he would not be anything special 10 or 15 years ago. ANYONE can be big today if you have enough money, even you Alex.
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I just love how sub 190lb twinks keep thinking drugs is the key to reach size of guys like me & others who are just big to start with.. we grow just looking at weights... can layoff for months and still hang around 240lb..
lol
listen to this fat dumpy french fuck talking about how big he is.
ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah oh god this is awesome
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some legendary gh15 words:
sean ray
hormonization
mutation
trenbolona
masterona
testosterona
even gastefani
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dimensionalization of the physique (via gh...adding new fibers)
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Because that is what he is. ;D ;D
Say my name, say my name.... ;)
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infantile
hormonalized to the nth degree
murderer and his ugly wife
GENERATION NOTHINGNESS
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lonateek
americana
generation nothingness
foundation
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beautiful man with glasses ;D
the guy comes up with funny (and accurate) shit for sure
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thomas prince
ronald coleman
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you guys havent figured out that gh 15 is heinz senior ?
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Yes God, I completely agree with you when you say dat most people are truly clueless as to how lean 8% really is, but I did post a pic of myself here when I was at my peak. 5'11" 154 sub-5 and maybe the bodyfat was a bit lower than my actual level, and I'm actually quite curious what level you would see me at. I don't have the search option here through using my mobile, so maybe one of you fellas would be kind enough to bump dat thread so that I could get God's expert opinion on my true bodyfat level ;D The threads title is "Me at my peak"
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that jason fella
cracks me up every time
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eat your mommy and daddy
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Ryan Seacrest mr.O 2011
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Say my name, say my name.... ;)
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LOL, still stalking me?
. ::) ::) ::)
SMM, maybe you should try and get out of the house for a change. Ask your mom if she can give you a ride to the university, tell her to pick you up again in 1 1/2 hours and stroll a little round the campus, maybe sit in a lecture and listen to some stuff.
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God of Hormones
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Black Vince sub-human genetics
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Well, "my friend", based on what I write, you can infer that I am a very intelligent person, so I fail to see your argument here. I don't think there is anyone on Getbig who has shown a more profound amount of knowledge on as many different topics as I have. This is a cold, hard fact. Occasionally, I make mistakes and I certainly don't know extremely technical subjects in a deep manner. As for my spelling, I assume you are joking. English is not even my first language, and I write it infinitely better than 99.99% of Americans. I have known doctorates in literature who had a more sophomoric grasp of English grammar and orthography than I do, so I would say I am in good company. In fact, have been complimented many times on this board even by people who hate me for my verbosity and eloquence, so your criticism is retarded. :)
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You are a joke here. A fraud and a phony. Nobody here likes or respects you. One of the things GetBig is good at is weeding out the poseurs and pretenders. You make up absurd claims about yourself to impress anonymous strangers who for the most part despise you. Claims that you never are able to back up and when challenged come up with some lame excuse why you won't. Like being only one of three people in the world to solve some obscure problem/puzzle. Why would a person do that? Can you produce one example "out of the many times on this board" where someone has complimented you on your "verbosity and eloquence"?
For a genius super soldier that you claim to be you sure come across as a desperate, delusional and pathetic retard.
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Weakest gh gimmick post, ever!? not even trying, any more. ::)
Hi Sev.
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Yes God, I completely agree with you when you say dat most people are truly clueless as to how lean 8% really is, but I did post a pic of myself here when I was at my peak. 5'11" 154 sub-5 and maybe the bodyfat was a bit lower than my actual level, and I'm actually quite curious what level you would see me at. I don't have the search option here through using my mobile, so maybe one of you fellas would be kind enough to bump dat thread so that I could get God's expert opinion on my true bodyfat level ;D The threads title is "Me at my peak"
Here you go. I would say 5% BF or slightly lower.
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You are a joke here. A fraud and a phony. Nobody here likes or respects you. One of the things GetBig is good at is weeding out the poseurs and pretenders. You make up absurd claims about yourself to impress anonymous strangers who for the most part despise you. Claims that you never are able to back up and when challenged come up with some lame excuse why you won't. Like being only one of three people in the world to solve some obscure problem/puzzle. Why would a person do that? Can you produce one example "out of the many times on this board" where someone has complimented you on your "verbosity and eloquence"?
For a genius super soldier that you claim to be you sure come across as a desperate, delusional and pathetic retard.
X2, couldn't have said it better
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Bloofy
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dj you should work as a gigolo. women would love you :D
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eat their mommy and daddy
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All you can eat gh buffet
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Here you go. I would say 5% BF or slightly lower.
Good physique. That's pretty much what I'm going for. I'm basically there already but I'm holding a little bit more bodyfat.
Good shape. Lean. Healthy. Cut. Easy to maintain naturally. That's where it's at.
Fuck going for tons of mass and the meathead look.
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Here you go. I would say 5% BF or slightly lower.
i'd say no lower than 6-6.5%
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5+ betwen 5-6 but holding some water on lower back and not enough muscle to show this 5% well,,but when it come to bf% this is what 5-6% look like ,,this is exactly bf of fitness model in magazine only they have more muscle which make the skin look tighter,,and ofcourse...gh which is givgin all different vibe and look to the physiqe,,its not easy to be 5% naturally ,,most naturals can only go down to 6% you are closer to 5 ,,good job
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Here you go. I would say 5% BF or slightly lower.
Closer to 6%.
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i'd say no lower than 6-6.5%
no he is little under 6 ,,he look 6 because he hold water on lower back ,,diuretic for 24 hour would put him looking 5% but evry small ,,not enough muscle
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You are a joke here. A fraud and a phony. Nobody here likes or respects you. One of the things GetBig is good at is weeding out the poseurs and pretenders. You make up absurd claims about yourself to impress anonymous strangers who for the most part despise you. Claims that you never are able to back up and when challenged come up with some lame excuse why you won't. Like being only one of three people in the world to solve some obscure problem/puzzle. Why would a person do that? Can you produce one example "out of the many times on this board" where someone has complimented you on your "verbosity and eloquence"?
For a genius super soldier that you claim to be you sure come across as a desperate, delusional and pathetic retard.
Ha ha ha ha... meltdown. I really love getting the trolls rilled up. ;D What should I care what you guys think ??? You guys are proles. You are the bottom barrel of Society. I know that most of you are poor and have to work for a living, and that most of you get laid a couple times a month at best by average-looking women. None of you impress me, and none of you are on my level. I am God. I truly am. I am young and have a great future ahead of me. Life is good. :)
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this all tread is DISMISSED! :D
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gh15 approved,,
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I am having trouble seeing his lower back, but his obliques are holding some fat.
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Ha ha ha ha... meltdown. I really love getting the trolls rilled up. ;D What should I care what you guys think ??? You guys are proles. You are the bottom barrel of Society. I know that most of you are poor and have to work for a living, and that most of you get laid a couple times a month at best by average-looking women. None of you impress me, and none of you are on my level. I am God. I truly am. I am young and have a great future ahead of me. Life is good. :)
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lol
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yes ,,the fat is the 5+ % hes holding,,rest is little water that woudl disapear if he went in sauna for couple hours,,or diuretic preferebly ,,never the less its 2-3lb of water right there which woudl make a differeence
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Ha ha ha ha... meltdown. I really love getting the trolls rilled up. ;D What should I care what you guys think ??? You guys are proles. You are the bottom barrel of Society. I know that most of you are poor and have to work for a living, and that most of you get laid a couple times a month at best by average-looking women. None of you impress me, and none of you are on my level. I am God. I truly am. I am young and have a great future ahead of me. Life is good. :)
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LMAO
Anyone who would give a speech like that has gotta be a broke ass chump.
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Richard tarzan kid
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Pics is kinda blurry so hard to tell, but he's got visible striations in the delts and chest. Can't see the rest of him though so again hard to tell, but 5% is close enough. Needs 15 iu's of GH and some Masteron and Boladrol. He's be on Nationals stage with Ryan Seacrest in no time. Sorry GH15 I couldn't resist. ;D
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ryan cystrest would blow up so big on hormone ,,he would sit 250lb single digit 9-10 % in no time,,he woudfl have good genetic respond
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how about the Simon Cowel fella from American nothingness Idol, could he win the O or at least the Arnolda Classica ?
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ryan cystrest would blow up so big on hormone ,,he would sit 250lb single digit 9-10 % in no time,,he woudfl have good genetic respond
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Can't disagree. What most guys on here don't really ever see is what some of these guys look like totally clean or what they looked like when they first stepped in a gym. I've seen some guys who you would NEVER EVER think could build a decent physique turn into freaks, not pro material, but pretty damn big.
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Ha ha ha ha... meltdown. I really love getting the trolls rilled up. ;D What should I care what you guys think ??? You guys are proles. You are the bottom barrel of Society. I know that most of you are poor and have to work for a living, and that most of you get laid a couple times a month at best by average-looking women. None of you impress me, and none of you are on my level. I am God. I truly am. I am young and have a great future ahead of me. Life is good. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
See, i always said you're a stupid teenager with too much time on his hands and a google bookmark. Your Parents are rich and tell you how smart you are when you sit with mommy and daddy for supper and discuss your homework.
Retard.
::) ::)
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LOL
from personal experience, if you stay home all day and do nothing you WILL go crazy...
its a serious issue that suckmymuscle suffers from
my solution to you is to go out somewhere and get your mind off shit or go on vacation somewhere for a week and come back fresh
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See, i always said you're a stupid teenager with too much time on his hands and a google bookmark. Your Parents are rich and tell you how smart you are when you sit with mommy and daddy for supper and discuss your homework.
Retard.
Say my name, say my name... ;)
Donkey, I think that you are dumb. And I am being serious.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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LOL
from personal experience, if you stay home all day and do nothing you WILL go crazy...
its a serious issue that suckmymuscle suffers from
my solution to you is to go out somewhere and get your mind off shit or go on vacation somewhere for a week and come back fresh
If he takes a plane maybe he can sit in the cock-pit. ;D ;D
I bet he would only need to ask his dad to buy him a ticket, problem would be that he would have to take his nanny along.
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Say my name, say my name... ;)
Donkey, I think that you are dumb. And I am being serious.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, as opposed to you, i don't give a flying shit about what you think i am. ;D ;D ;D
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LOL
from personal experience, if you stay home all day and do nothing you WILL go crazy...
its a serious issue that suckmymuscle suffers from
my solution to you is to go out somewhere and get your mind off shit or go on vacation somewhere for a week and come back fresh
Thanks for the advice, dude. I may try living like a prole for a few weeks with very little money, little sex and no hope. That will make me identify with you guys and become more popular at Getbig.com message boards. :)
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LOL, as opposed to you, i don't give a flying shit about what you think i am. ;D ;D ;D
Ok. Because I really think that. LOL!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok. Because I really think that. LOL!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Proofs how dumb you really are. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Proofs how dumb you really are. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Not really. From reading your posts, I don't think that you are a very intelligent person, DK. You are not completely stupid, but you are not intelligent either. I have never seen anything intellectually profound from your posts, a display of powerful logical thinking skills, vast knowledge or interesting insights like I see from, for example, posters like Deicide and Doison. Those guys are really bright and they show it. Of course, I don't know you in person but if I were to judge you from what I read from you here, it is not impressive. But this is only my opinion, and I am sure that the opinion of someone over the internet is not relevant to you.
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gh15 knows his shit
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Shut your big mouth son, gh15 is a respected member and you are not
r u serious?
rofl.
SMM has far more cred than gh15. gh15 is a parrot.monkey.
he's well trained in the art of "regurgitating what other ignorants tell him".
still, he does tell it like it is- great insights, however flawed and misguided.
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Not really. From reading your posts, I don't think that you are a very intelligent person, DK. You are not completely stupid, but you are not intelligent either. I have never seen anything intellectually profound from your posts, a display of powerful logical thinking skills, vast knowledge or interesting insights like I see from, for example, posters like Deicide and Doison. Those guys are really bright and they show it. Of course, I don't know you in person but if I were to judge you from what I read from you here, it is not impressive. But this is only my opinion, and I am sure that the opinion of someone over the internet is not relevant to you.
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Maybe i don't need to prove how intelligent i am on an anonymous message board?
I come here for the fun, not to prove anything, i have to do that in my job enough, sweetheart. :-* :-*
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Maybe i don't need to prove how intelligent i am on an anonymous message board?
I come here for the fun, not to prove anything, i have to do that in my job enough, sweetheart.
Yeah, but it's hard to be intelligent in real life and a moron online. Intelligence is not something that easily disappears on command. Some people who I know are very intelligent sometimes post stupid things on purpose, but you can tell they are posting beneath their level of intelligence on purpose. I never got the feeling that you are posting beneath you level of intelligence, maybe because I never saw even a single post of yours that would indicate a high intelligence and thus make your stupid posts not a good indicator of your overall capacity. Out of your 8,000+ posts there isn't anything that indicates an IQ above average.
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r u serious?
rofl.
SMM has far more cred than gh15. gh15 is a parrot.monkey.
he's well trained in the art of "regurgitating what other ignorants tell him".
still, he does tell it like it is- great insights, however flawed and misguided.
whenever the situation cant be thought to be more fucked up ,,,'disco stu' wakes up lol
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you are nothing
XXX is a shame for bodybuilding
the fella at 230-235 12-13 % walk on stage 190 4-5%,,think about it ,,and this is ALWAYS ON AAS DRUGS! unles there is gh in there then it changes with time
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Not really. From reading your posts, I don't think that you are a very intelligent person, DK. You are not completely stupid, but you are not intelligent either. I have never seen anything intellectually profound from your posts, a display of powerful logical thinking skills, vast knowledge or interesting insights like I see from, for example, posters like Deicide and Doison. Those guys are really bright and they show it. Of course, I don't know you in person but if I were to judge you from what I read from you here, it is not impressive. But this is only my opinion, and I am sure that the opinion of someone over the internet is not relevant to you.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
donky is extremly smart,,he is sharp ,,he get you all wiht his posting to go nuts,,for many years,,the way he write is very emotionless and smart ,,to say he is not is just dumb,,you can tell when someone has high inteligence ,,i bet money this fella got his shit together more or less together,,i bet kyomi would approve too
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Yeah, but it's hard to be intelligent in real life and a moron online. Intelligence is not something that easily disappears on command. Some people who I know are very intelligent sometimes post stupid things on purpose, but you can tell they are posting beneath their level of intelligence on purpose. I never got the feeling that you are posting beneath you level of intelligence, maybe because I never saw even a single post of yours that would indicate a high intelligence and thus make your stupid posts not a good indicator of your overall capacity. Out of your 8,000+ posts there isn't anything that indicates an IQ above average.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, great assessment. ::) ::) ::)
I also think that you have never gone out drinking and having fun with a few intelligent people, and they all fool around and talk some crazy shit, but in the rest of the time they are scientists or consultants or whatever?
Dude, you have no social life, no experience at all, you know nothing about people. All you do is CLAIM that you are intelligent, post some shit from google and always FAIL to prove your point.
You're a sad little creature, you should go out and have fun a bit, maybe then you would realize how childish and "dumb" really intelligent people can be at times. :-* :-*
Dismissed. ;D ;D ;D
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donky is extremly smart,,he is sharp ,,he get you all wiht his posting to go nuts,,for many years,,the way he write is very emotionless and smart ,,to say he is not is just dumb,,you can tell when someone has high inteligence ,,i bet money this fella got his shit together more or less together,,i bet kyomi would approve too
gh15 approved
LOL, beer is on me when you are in Japan, shoot me a PN. ;D ;D
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LOL, great assessment.
I also think that you have never gone out drinking and having fun with a few intelligent people, and they all fool around and talk some crazy shit, but in the rest of the time they are scientists or consultants or whatever?
Dude, you have no social life, no experience at all, you know nothing about people. All you do is CLAIM that you are intelligent, post some shit from google and always FAIL to prove your point.
You're a sad little creature, you should go out and have fun a bit, maybe then you would realize how childish and "dumb" really intelligent people can be at times. :-* :-*
Dismissed. ;D ;D ;D
I know that you don't give a shit, but I do think that you are dumb. Lol. It doesen't matter. Even though I am sure that I am more intelligent than you(higher IQ), I still think that some of the shit you write is pretty funny and you seem like a good guy. :) Also, I was being facetious on lots of the stuff I wrote. It is Sunday night and I have nothing better to do. ;D
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I know that you don't give a shit, but I do think that you are dumb. Lol. It doesen't matter. Even though I am sure that I am more intelligent than you(higher IQ), I still think that some of the shit you write is pretty funny and you seem like a good guy. :) Also, I was being facetious on lots of the stuff I wrote. It is Sunday and I have nothing better to do. ;D
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SUCKMYMUSCLE
Let me just tell you something:
Once you get out of High School, maybe you will go to university, you will realize how many smart people are out there.
Then, when you get a good job, maybe even in management, you will realize there are STILL much more intelligent people out there than all the professors and nerds in your university.
By then, when you have reached a certain level, achieved something in life, you will probably have realized that you don't need to prove yourself to everyone and everything that comes in reach.
But that will happen after puberty has ended, so you still have a long way before you.
Kind regards,
DK
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Let me just tell you something:
Once you get out of High School, maybe you will go to university, you will realize how many smart people are out there.
Then, when you get a good job, maybe even in management, you will realize there are STILL much more intelligent people out there than all the professors and nerds in your university.
By then, when you have reached a certain level, achieved something in life, you will probably have realized that you don't need to prove yourself to everyone and everything that comes in reach.
But that will happen after puberty has ended, so you still have a long way before you.
Kind regards,
DK
I am 31 years old if you must know. And don't get so upset over what I wrote. I do think that I am more intelligent than you but there are lots of people more intelligent than you so it's not like you should hate me for something that billions of people are too.
And what crap is this about always meeting more intelligent people than you? Do you think that smart people are common? Even medical doctors and engineers have IQ around 120, and PhDs average 125 as well as corporate CEOs. I have easily solved problems that M.I.T math profesors with IQs of 150 couldn't, so how many smarter people than me I will meet in my life ??? Sure, there are some, but many? No. Well, given that there are seven billion people on the planet, there must be lots of people in absolute terms smarter than me, but they are so spread out on a huge World that I won't meet many. In fact, after three decades of life, I can assure you I have only met a handful of people as smart or smarter than me. And that is the honest truth. :)
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I am 31 years old if you must know. And don't get so upset over what I wrote. I do think that I am more intelligent than you but there are lots of people more intelligent than you so it's not like you should hate me for something that billions of people are too.
And what crap is this about always meeting more intelligent people than you? Do you think that smart people are common? Even medical doctors and engineers have IQ around 120, and PhDs average 125 as well as corporate CEOs. I have easily solved problems that M.I,T math profesors with IQs of 150 couldn't, so how many smarter people than me I will meet in my life ??? Sure, there are some, but many? No. Well, given that there are seven billion people on the planet, there must be lots of people in absolute terms smarter than me, but they are so spread out on a huge World that I won't meet many. In fact, after three decades of life, I can assure you I have only met a handful of people as smart or smarter than me. And that is the honest truth. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, maybe you just don't know the right people?
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serious question, SMM:
Why do you take every post here for the total truth?
Does it ever cross your mind that maybe some people here write something that they know is wrong intentionally?
Yuo're a funny dude, every post of yours screams of sociophobia.
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LOL, maybe you just don't know the right people?
How much do I have to search? M.I.T math professors fail to solve the problems I can, so what are the odds of me finding smarter people than me in a corporate environment? Even in a place like Harvard there would be only about 1%(and I am being very generous to Harvard) of students at my level of problem-solving skills and I am not being facetious! :D
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whenever the situation cant be thought to be more fucked up ,,,'disco stu' wakes up lol
maybe one day you'll get it...aww who am i kidding...you wont.
the world needs ppl like you- so we can have a proper pecking order. who else is going to be middle or lower in the pack?.
so you keep on going sunshine...good for you..
never question, just follow, and keep on with those hate rants about other similarly challenged bodybuilders...seems to be working for you.
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0. Genetics to start with...
X2
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How much do I have to search? M.I.T math professors fail to solve the problems I can, so what are the odds of me finding smarter people than me in a corporate environment? Even in a place like Harvard there would be only about 1%(and I am being very generous to Harvard) of students at my level of problem-solving skills and I am not being facetious! :D
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You know what i start to think:
You're autistic. That would fit very well.
I don't even consider someone with savantism "intelligent".
On the other hand, you only have a big mouth, never proofed anything so i don't even give you credit for being intelligent or having a Inselbegabung of any sort.
Sorry pal, but i don't think that you are above average intelligence at all.
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You know what i start to think:
You're autistic. That would fit very well.
Lol, that is pretty funny. At once I thought I had Asperger's Sybdrome, but it turned out I just had a healthy self-esteem that leads me to be calllous towards the feelings of others.
I don't even consider someone with savantism "intelligent".
It goes to show you don't know what a savant is. A savant is someone who has a highly developed single skill and is defective at everything else. I am an overall genius. The broadness and depth of my knowledge as well as my problem-solving skills that applies to all sorts of problems precludes the possibility of me being a savant.
On the other hand, you only have a big mouth, never proofed anything so i don't even give you credit for being intelligent or having a Inselbegabung of any sort.
You are right about this. I am claiming to be super-smart and I am not backing my shit up - besides the staggering display of knowledge throughout my thousands of posts. So, tomorrow, I will post the answer to that problem I proposed to Erstling. The reason why I didn't post it is because you guys would just say that I found the answer somewhere and not give me credit. That's why I gave you guys time to post the answer, so as to show to you that the answer is not online.
Sorry pal, but i don't think that you are above average intelligence at all.
Oh, brother. :D
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Lol, that is pretty funny. At once I thought I had Asperger's Sybdrome, but it turned out I just had a healthy self-esteem that leads me to be calllous towards the feelings of others.
It goes to show you don't know what a savant is. A savant is someone who has a highly developed single skill and is defective at everything else. I am an overall genius. The broadness and depth of my knowledge as well as my problem-solving skills that applies to all sorts of problems precludes the possibility of me being a savant.
You are right about this. I am claiming to be super-smart and I am not backing my shit up - besides the staggering display of knowledge throughout my thousands of posts. So, tomorrow, I will post the answer to that problem I proposed to Erstling. The reason why I didn't post it is because you guys would just say that I found the answer somewhere and not give me credit. That's why I gave you guys time to post the answer, so as to show to you that the answer is not online.
Oh, brother. :D
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LOL, i play you like a violine and you don't even realize.
You waste half your day defending yourself to someone you consider stupid on an internet message board.
The life of a true genius, LOL.
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I know that you don't give a shit, but I do think that you are dumb. Lol. It doesen't matter. Even though I am sure that I am more intelligent than you(higher IQ), I still think that some of the shit you write is pretty funny and you seem like a good guy. :) Also, I was being facetious on lots of the stuff I wrote. It is Sunday night and I have nothing better to do. ;D
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Nobody cares what you think. You've discredited yourself time and again. And for someone who claims that he doesn't care what others think of him you sure spend a lot of time on this board trying to defend yourself.
Please do yourself and the rest of us a favor.
(http://www.utilitydesign.co.uk/mall/UtilityDesign/customerimages/products/l_SUKHARRY.jpg)
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Epic projection of his self-hated life on other posters from this suckmymuscle guy :-\
Why would somone in check with reality feels the need to argue over 4 pages with DK who clearly told him he was justrying to piss him off ? And why an intelligent man would need to write in every post he replys how intelligent he is to be sure people notice ?
Either he's a smart fella with brutal social disorder problem or a dumb fuck trying to be what he's not. Don't know what's worse tho...
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Epic projection of his self-hated life on other posters from this suckmymuscle guy :-\
Why would somone in check with reality feels the need to argue over 4 pages with DK who clearly told him he was justrying to piss him off ? And why an intelligent man would need to write in every post he replys how intelligent he is to be sure people notice ?
Either he's a smart fella with brutal social disorder problem or a dumb fuck trying to be what he's not. Don't know what's worse tho...
LOL, best thing is that i openly told him many times that i don't even read half of his posts but try to piss him off.
I don't care for reason, truth, plausibility or anything, but still he leaps for the bait every time.
Yeah, he really has to be the most intelligent guy in the world. ::) ::) ;D ;D
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Yeah, but it's hard to be intelligent in real life and a moron online. Intelligence is not something that easily disappears on command. Some people who I know are very intelligent sometimes post stupid things on purpose, but you can tell they are posting beneath their level of intelligence on purpose. I never got the feeling that you are posting beneath you level of intelligence, maybe because I never saw even a single post of yours that would indicate a high intelligence and thus make your stupid posts not a good indicator of your overall capacity. Out of your 8,000+ posts there isn't anything that indicates an IQ above average.
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EXACTLY. You are a moron online, something most of us here by far agree to, therefore it hardly a stretch, and based on your own reasoning, that you are a moron in real life.
Found any of those posts or PMs where "many" on this board have complimented your intelligence, yet?
Yeah, I thought so.
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r u serious?
rofl.
SMM has far more cred than gh15. gh15 is a parrot.monkey.
he's well trained in the art of "regurgitating what other ignorants tell him".
still, he does tell it like it is- great insights, however flawed and misguided.
I'm talking in the present and most posts on this (and other) threads prove I'm correct about this.
Suck is like the Mel Gibson of GB, he's done. It's about time he realizes that.
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EXACTLY. You are a moron online, something most of us here by far agree to, therefore it hardly a stretch, and based on your own reasoning, that you are a moron in real life.
Found any of those posts or PMs where "many" on this board have complimented your intelligence, yet?
Yeah, I thought so.
hahaahahaa, nice self-owning there by S. "Super-Genius" M. Muscle.
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Yeah, but it's hard to be intelligent in real life and a moron online. Intelligence is not something that easily disappears on command. Some people who I know are very intelligent sometimes post stupid things on purpose, but you can tell they are posting beneath their level of intelligence on purpose. I never got the feeling that you are posting beneath you level of intelligence, maybe because I never saw even a single post of yours that would indicate a high intelligence and thus make your stupid posts not a good indicator of your overall capacity. Out of your 8,000+ posts there isn't anything that indicates an IQ above average.
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Well it shouldn't be too hard to pretend to be dumb if you're really smart.. acting is all you have to do at that point. A good example of acting "dumb", but still sending out a correct message, is gh15... did you read some of his first postings on this message board? However, pretending to be smart when in fact you're dumb... that's a whole lot harder.
Why is it that almost every post of you contains words that classify intelligence? You solely rate people based on their intelligence?
Besides, there are different kinds of intelligences.. just being able to see patterns in chaos doesn't mean that you're able to contribute something outstanding to this world... it has a lot to do with passion and with the work you put into a subject.
So what kind of work do you do? Do you have any academic degrees? What do you use your intelligence for? Just to get laid and lead a comfortable life? Not many truly intelligent people devote their lives to secular pleasures...
I don't think you're dumb, I'd say you are intelligent... but you place way too much weight on it.
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Thanks for da props God 8) And yeah I know that I'm not holding enough muscle to make the 5-6% look so impressive. But the question is can I be 20 pounds heavier and have this same level of bodyfat naturally? In dat pic I'm 154 at 5'11" so if I added 20 pounds dat would put me at 175 5'11" sub-6, and that basically tops out God's decree as far as maximum muscle on a natural physique. P.S. When that photo was taken the only thing that I was training hard and consistanly were the Push muscles. Pull was getting some work, and Legs were getting trained only with some leg ext and some running.
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Ryan Seacrest mr.O 2011
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"we drew pictures together"
Bodybuilder never comes off....always thinking about next cycle..... how can i get more
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jason cutler, beautiful man with glasses, the muslim obama, hormonized to some extent. the horsemouth and the murderer, the murderer and his ugly wife.
the kid, sagi kalev, jason cutler very average genetics, ken wheeler, lair priest.
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Wow, so many replies from DK since I left, and he is making nothing but ad hominem attacks on me. Then, he claims he doesen't care what I think. Obviously, he is unable to shrug off any of the things I say because he is too obsessed with me and he does care what I think. Say my name, say my name... ;)
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I am 31 years old if you must know. And don't get so upset over what I wrote. I do think that I am more intelligent than you but there are lots of people more intelligent than you so it's not like you should hate me for something that billions of people are too.
And what crap is this about always meeting more intelligent people than you? Do you think that smart people are common? Even medical doctors and engineers have IQ around 120, and PhDs average 125 as well as corporate CEOs. I have easily solved problems that M.I.T math profesors with IQs of 150 couldn't, so how many smarter people than me I will meet in my life ??? Sure, there are some, but many? No. Well, given that there are seven billion people on the planet, there must be lots of people in absolute terms smarter than me, but they are so spread out on a huge World that I won't meet many. In fact, after three decades of life, I can assure you I have only met a handful of people as smart or smarter than me. And that is the honest truth. :)
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i watched good will hunting the other day too, good movie
'my boys wicked smaart'
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Genetics have shit to do with being a top national or pro at least in this day and age. All I see today is crappy looking mutants who have forced their muscles to grow with tons of drugs. Years ago 70's 80's early 90's you had guys who had great response to the high doses they took along with the muscle shape to go along with it. Since bbing is not too popular these days with the younger crowd, you rarely see anyone up and coming today that is any good. Phil Heath is the best we got TODAY, but he would not be anything special 10 or 15 years ago. ANYONE can be big today if you have enough money, even you Alex.
are u saying phil would not be considered good 10-15 years ago in his present mr o condition?? are you kidding he would have been rite there fightin for the mr o with dorian , maybe even beat dorian in this year mr o shape.....if your really sayin that i say ur way off!!!
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are u saying phil would not be considered good 10-15 years ago in his present mr o condition?? are you kidding he would have been rite there fightin for the mr o with dorian , maybe even beat dorian in this year mr o shape.....if your really sayin that i say ur way off!!!
You need to pay more attention to what you read. 15 years ago Phil would have been doing exactly what those guys were doing back then so comparing apples to apples Phil would have been a good bber, but no way he would have stood next to Dorian. Dorian at his best was light years ahead of Phil in conditioning and GRAINYNESS!!!! Phil has good separation, but nearly no hardness, looks like a big balloon. When you see the guys from years ago especially Dorian and you see them move from pose to pose you see every fiber dancing and moving and shit you never see in today's guys. Kevin too at his best among others. Phil with the same drugs cycle would NOT be among the best top 6 of those days.
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thats cool but reading ur post again i still dont see where u said using the same stuff everyone was using back then
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thats cool but reading ur post again i still dont see where u said using the same stuff everyone was using back then
I figured that would be a given, but I see what your'e sayin. :)
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GH15, what do you think of The 'MD forums' and 'Ron Harris' in particular
I'd like my name removed.
Thanks!
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i already say what i thinkg,, their mission is to sell the illusion that hard work is main thing when it come to bodybuilding ,,reason is look at all the company that sponsor the site ,,money talk ,,
the moderator who are taken to this type of site,,are conformed moderator,,meaning a moderator who already conformed to the unspoken law of comersial bodybuilder both female and male who practically sin on a daily basis which si equivelent to moderator who take bribe which are evrywhere,,
overall very bad boarding when it come to the truth behind bodybuildgin,,you can not get the truth when its comerically sponsored,,and ofcoure the unspoken code is very high in those kind of places,,this is why i never agree to work there under gh15
the type odf place like this is usualy the type of place that on wil be kept pretty clean and then behind pm and close email there wil be drug communication ,,usaually called supplement,, it is just one of many board that is comercialy sponsored by a magazine that i predict will NOT survive the test of time due to it being controled by one individual that try to be weider in an era that bodybuilding became smaller cult than ever
inregarding ron heris,,he is what i call a white color criminal,,same as mobsters back in the past you know? on everyday life write for magazine,,talk about natural ability of the brain to sustain the chain of novadex pills produced by gaspari his bread giver and result in a great phsyiqe equivelent to bodybuilder,,ofcourse he lies,,he lie and everyone knwos he lie includign himself,,but! in reality he is using ofcourse like everyone product right and left and hsi genetic respond just lacking,,eventhogh again if used as gh15 say to ue he would become pro size like any one who does it,,the reaility is that most of the fellas who gh15 call white color criminals are also cowards ,,they are the first ones to go when the ship is sinking,,first ones to run ,,first ones to say it wassnt me and he did it ,,first ones to say im out of here buds,,thats the type of fellas you deal with on that board ,,so you always need to take it for what it is,,
if i were you ,,i woudl continue penetrate that board with as many people a you can ,,30-40 and contantly write there the truth ,,only when the masses want change....change come,, see husen obama ,,not a good change but from no one he became president,,absolutely ruined the country but still you get the idea here
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here's more Ron Harris nonsense
Gunter looks clean to me. Could very well be on HRT to keep him in normal T ranges, but that's nothing like I've seen him look in the past when he was well over 300 and lean.
yeah right he looks 260 in not so bad condition, definitly hrt dose ::)
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here's more Ron Harris nonsense
yeah right he looks 260 in not so bad condition, definitly hrt dose ::)
thats not ron harris
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You need to pay more attention to what you read. 15 years ago Phil would have been doing exactly what those guys were doing back then so comparing apples to apples Phil would have been a good bber, but no way he would have stood next to Dorian. Dorian at his best was light years ahead of Phil in conditioning and GRAINYNESS!!!! Phil has good separation, but nearly no hardness, looks like a big balloon. When you see the guys from years ago especially Dorian and you see them move from pose to pose you see every fiber dancing and moving and shit you never see in today's guys. Kevin too at his best among others. Phil with the same drugs cycle would NOT be among the best top 6 of those days.
Agree , the guys today though 2 -3 % on stage look soft and puffy when standing there , relaxed back in the 90s those guys looked like granite and harder than hard ???
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Agree , the guys today though 2 -3 % on stage look soft and puffy when standing there , relaxed back in the 90s those guys looked like granite and harder than hard ???
^this.
oddly enough the same things that made those physiques possible (the drugs) are also responsible for ruining them today.
i'd point the finger at insulin- and too much GH.
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How much do I have to search? M.I.T math professors fail to solve the problems I can, so what are the odds of me finding smarter people than me in a corporate environment? Even in a place like Harvard there would be only about 1%(and I am being very generous to Harvard) of students at my level of problem-solving skills and I am not being facetious! :D
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i love the irony that this douche makes an idiot of himself on a daily basis telling everyone how smart he is
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You need to pay more attention to what you read. 15 years ago Phil would have been doing exactly what those guys were doing back then so comparing apples to apples Phil would have been a good bber, but no way he would have stood next to Dorian. Dorian at his best was light years ahead of Phil in conditioning and GRAINYNESS!!!! Phil has good separation, but nearly no hardness, looks like a big balloon. When you see the guys from years ago especially Dorian and you see them move from pose to pose you see every fiber dancing and moving and shit you never see in today's guys. Kevin too at his best among others. Phil with the same drugs cycle would NOT be among the best top 6 of those days.
the Phil Heath that was at the Olympia this year would have been very comparable to the top guys in the 90's. Old timers nostalgia is clouding your judgement.
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I am 31 years old if you must know. And don't get so upset over what I wrote. I do think that I am more intelligent than you but there are lots of people more intelligent than you so it's not like you should hate me for something that billions of people are too.
And what crap is this about always meeting more intelligent people than you? Do you think that smart people are common? Even medical doctors and engineers have IQ around 120, and PhDs average 125 as well as corporate CEOs. I have easily solved problems that M.I.T math profesors with IQs of 150 couldn't, so how many smarter people than me I will meet in my life ??? Sure, there are some, but many? No. Well, given that there are seven billion people on the planet, there must be lots of people in absolute terms smarter than me, but they are so spread out on a huge World that I won't meet many. In fact, after three decades of life, I can assure you I have only met a handful of people as smart or smarter than me. And that is the honest truth. :)
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Hahahaha... OMG, taking a page out of bethany howlett's book I see...
with that reasoning you should be at least the ceo/cfo of some giant biotech company... what do you do again dude ?
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Hahahaha... OMG, taking a page out of bethany howlett's book I see...
with that reasoning you should be at least the ceo/cfo of some giant biotech company... what do you do again dude ?
He is a professional son, working his way through Junior High School with mommy telling him how bright he was ed, now he's in HS and the smartest guy in the whole of Galena, Illinois.
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He is a professional son, working his way through Junior High School with mommy telling him how bright he was ed, now he's in HS and the smartest guy in the whole of Galena, Illinois.
He's also a "human weapon"....don't fuck with him :D
if he can't beat you physically (which is almost impossible)....he will melt your brain with mind waves
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He's also a "human weapon"....don't fuck with him :D
Well, according to him he is everything, top ten smartest person in the world, top ten bodybuilder, super rich (he claimed to have 1000s of bank accounts all over the world), super fighter and so on.
It's really amazing what Ritalin can do to a kid. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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the Phil Heath that was at the Olympia this year would have been very comparable to the top guys in the 90's. Old timers nostalgia is clouding your judgement.
Hahahaha so just because Heath looked good "at this years Olympia" he's all of the sudden part of the 90's look. These guys came in granite hard on a regular basis so just because Phil (in your mind) got in shape once doesn't mean he's worthy of being compared to the likes of Dorian and the rest.
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Hahahaha so just because Heath looked good "at this years Olympia" he's all of the sudden part of the 90's look. These guys came in granite hard on a regular basis so just because Phil (in your mind) got in shape once doesn't mean he's worthy of being compared to the likes of Dorian and the rest.
He's always came in shredded. This year he had enough size tone comparable to the guys in the 90's. Flex levrone Cormier ray. They'd all be pretty close. Dorian is the only one who was grainy.
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He's always came in shredded. This year he had enough size tone comparable to the guys in the 90's. Flex levrone Cormier ray. They'd all be pretty close. Dorian is the only one who was grainy.
Phil Heath shredded?? Show me a pic of him at this past years Olympia where he is shredded.
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Get out the popcorn :D
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Well, according to him he is everything, top ten smartest person in the world, top ten bodybuilder, super rich (he claimed to have 1000s of bank accounts all over the world), super fighter and so on.
It's really amazing what Ritalin can do to a kid. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Bro you forgot the best, apparently (he actually posted this) he's also a 6"6 320lbs @ 4% bf, ex-special ops (delta force) operator
who once snapped a fully grown german shepherd's back with his bare hands...
;D ;D
No, I am not kidding...I wish I was...hahaha
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Phil Heath shredded?? Show me a pic of him at this past years Olympia where he is shredded.
http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/14071/event/1/division/18/site/1/tag/161/mode/will/page/756
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Bro you forgot the best, apparently (he actually posted this) he's also a 6"6 320lbs @ 4% bf, ex-special ops (delta force) operator
who once snapped a fully grown german shepherd's back with his bare hands...
;D ;D
No, I am not kidding...I wish I was...hahaha
Hahaha, i totally forgot about that.
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http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/14071/event/1/division/18/site/1/tag/161/mode/will/page/756
OK, in these pics Phil is far from shredded. Some body parts like glutes especially have some striations, but shoulders are almost completely devoid of any detail, chest has some visible striations in certain poses and his triceps which I would expect to be striated deeply from top to bottom are barely visible of any striations. His back is very smooth too although he does have some feathering when trying to display a christmas tree, but other than that not much to see. He does have some decent separation.
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He is a professional son, working his way through Junior High School with mommy telling him how bright he was ed, now he's in HS and the smartest guy in the whole of Galena, Illinois.
You know what I think is funny, Donkey? That you claim that you don't care what I think and that you post only to annoy me, and yet it is you who stalks me everywhere I post, quoting my posts and making catty remarks towards me and trying to find anything wrong that I might say to prove to me that I am not as smart as I think I am. You hate the fact that I love myself, that I think that I am much smarter than most people, and you try desperately to prove to me that I am not as great as I think I am. I hurt your own sense of self-worth. ;D And I own your mind. Keep posting, dude, and I will keep loving it. ;D Say my name, say my name...
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i love the irony that this douche makes an idiot of himself on a daily basis telling everyone how smart he is
I am God. True story. Trust me: a guy like you is good enough to clean my toilet follwing my defecation, but that is about it. Fortunately, our Society finds a niche for everyone.You should be happy about this. Guys like you were born to clean toilets. :)
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Bro you forgot the best, apparently (he actually posted this) he's also a 6"6 320lbs @ 4% bf, ex-special ops (delta force) operator
who once snapped a fully grown german shepherd's back with his bare hands...
;D ;D
No, I am not kidding...I wish I was...hahaha
See Sucky, you have claimed all this garbage above. Yet you wonder why people think you are a first rate retard living at home in the basement. Add to this, you have an IQ higher than most people from Harvard and you being able to solve a problem only two other people in the world can. I mean, seriously, breaking the back of a German Sheppard with your bare hands? With such a claim, please tell us the story. How exactly did you do this to this K-9?
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OK, in these pics Phil is far from shredded. Some body parts like glutes especially have some striations, but shoulders are almost completely devoid of any detail, chest has some visible striations in certain poses and his triceps which I would expect to be striated deeply from top to bottom are barely visible of any striations. His back is very smooth too although he does have some feathering when trying to display a christmas tree, but other than that not much to see. He does have some decent separation.
wow- in that rear double bi there is absolutely no separation between the rear and side delt.
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OK, in these pics Phil is far from shredded. Some body parts like glutes especially have some striations, but shoulders are almost completely devoid of any detail, chest has some visible striations in certain poses and his triceps which I would expect to be striated deeply from top to bottom are barely visible of any striations. His back is very smooth too although he does have some feathering when trying to display a christmas tree, but other than that not much to see. He does have some decent separation.
I see your point, his delts definitely don't have the definition and separation that a guy his size usually has. but otherwise he is shredded.
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Phil = All GH and slin. This is why is was able to make the incredible gains between each show. The slin is the reason he looks like a balloon with minimal detail and tie ins and why he'll never be as shredded as guys from the 90...I bet he was pounding slin all fucking day in large amounts precontest. You don't make the gains he has in that short period of time from just steroids and GH.
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I see your point, his delts definitely don't have the definition and separation that a guy his size usually has. but otherwise he is shredded.
Lines between abs are blurry and serratus is also soft in the side triceps pic. Also there is no real grainyness anywhere in his physique. This is not a pic of a guy who's first impression when you see it is FUK this guy is shredded!!!! I would rate his physique between hard and ripped depending on which body part we are discussing.
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Phil = All GH and slin. This is why is was able to make the incredible gains between each show. The slin is the reason he looks like a balloon with minimal detail and tie ins and why he'll never be as shredded as guys from the 90...I bet he was pounding slin all fucking day in large amounts precontest. You don't make the gains he has in that short period of time from just steroids and GH.
there you go ,,someone who got this right,,
phil heath is an abuser of the drug hgh ,,he uses already levbels of jason gh use but his body was not ready ,,he is a prime exampel for lets say person like tomas prince winning the o,,do you think tomas prince could win o back in 90s? thats where phil heath would be right there with tomas maybe a place higher or lower,,
phil heath is A JOKE whenh it come to bodybuilding,,this is a fella that see himself truely as great bodybuilder when in reality he is not!,,he lack a lot,,fellas that were placed 10 in o back in 90s look as good as him ,,he is all blwo up size which is syntetic due to hgh and insulin ,,again nto steroid size and hard training and food,,hgh size which is purly yntetic and go away within 12 months of stopping hgh usage,,
12 months off gh and phil heath is sitting 190lb 8%,,this is NOT mr o level,,im sorry if the truth hurts but it is the truth
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In order for Phil to get shredded and a more grainy look although not possible for him to get extreme grainy look due to genetics he would have to quit using "certain things", but this would entail that he lose some weight and size and this in turn would take away from his WOW factor as far a cartoon look so this is never going to happen.
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Phil does not use insulin, never once used insulin, will never use insulin. :D
All pancake loading.
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Phil does not use insulin, never once used insulin, will never use insulin. :D
All pancake loading.
Funny you mention that. I got an email the other day from a guy who's being trained by Hany and he mentions the slin protocol as being the same one that Phil uses. He said that Hany even mentions this in his email. Course, it's prolly all lies. :D
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Lines between abs are blurry and serratus is also soft in the side triceps pic. Also there is no real grainyness anywhere in his physique. This is not a pic of a guy who's first impression when you see it is FUK this guy is shredded!!!! I would rate his physique between hard and ripped depending on which body part we are discussing.
Jim could you please rate the lower left quadrant of the gluteous maximus more precisely the fiber density per cubic inch?
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Funny you mention that. I got an email the other day from a guy who's being trained by Hany and he mentions the slin protocol as being the same one that Phil uses. He said that Hany even mentions this in his email. Course, it's prolly all lies. :D
I have gotten a couple of PM's saying the same thing. It wasn't that much insulin so maybe it just doesn't count? :D Like 1000mg a week of roids is the new natural, only doing a couple dozen IUs of insulin is "insulin free". ???
"It's all genetics baby, insulin is not the secret". No it's no secret, everyone knows about and everyone does it. :D
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LMFAO at the guys hanging off gh15's nuts hoping for "free goodies" and source info (there are about 4 tools that come to my mind right now.). idiots. ::)
gh15 is a great guy, i truly believe hes a pro. But why all this ass-licking?
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Another thread merge that absolutely ruins everything.
Thanks mods for putting in that extra effort for making this board just a little bit worse. Nobody, absolutely nobody, thinks you improve this board by merging threads and destroying the continuity and subject matter. You essentially destroy a bunch of interesting threads in one fell swoop.
Please find time to do something else. You would vastly increase your value to the board by simply being useless.
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Ron Harris is a guy. Claims that Jose Raymond was clean up until 2008 HAHAHAH
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excellent post!
these sort of forums are truly sad.
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Ron Harris is a ####. Claims that Jose Raymond was clean up until 2008 HAHAHAH
that midget was never clean. he juiced from the beginning. a dwarf trying to compensate his height by taking drugs to get big.
he isnt even 5'4
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that midget was never clean. he juiced from the beginning. a dwarf trying to compensate his height by taking drugs to get big.
he isnt even 5'4
you do knwo he is brother of tito right? tito still claim natural when he was more juiced than most of us pros back in the day ,,they are latino famiy of liars,,skanky liars,,they buy gh kits like there is no tomorrow ,,both brothers ,,
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Another thread merge that absolutely ruins everything.
Thanks mods for putting in that extra effort for making this board just a little bit worse. Nobody, absolutely nobody, thinks you improve this board by merging threads and destroying the continuity and subject matter. You essentially destroy a bunch of interesting threads in one fell swoop.
Please find time to do something else. You would vastly increase your value to the board by simply being useless.
seriously this thg is a cluster fck now
I bet frank sepe pounded some nice fitness chick ass in his hay day
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Ron: whore. Simple as that. Honesty is foreign to him.
Jose and Tito NEVER competed natural. Oh, but Jose put on so much size suddenly, what about that? That's the Dante Doggrapp natural defense. The answer is that there's different levels of juicing. There's a difference between doing perhaps a gram max of steroids only, perhaps going clean to pass tests and then starting multi-gram steroid use coupled with dozens of units of GH and maybe a hundred units of slin. Same thing that Coleman did, same as Kai, same as Jose. None competed totally clean ever. There is no winning the Universe clean. Come on now. :D
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seriously this thg is a cluster fck now
I bet frank sepe pounded some nice fitness chick ass in his hay day
fucking guy still does prolly. lol
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Ron: whore. Simple as that. Honesty is foreign to him.
Jose and Tito NEVER competed natural. Oh, but Jose put on so much size suddenly, what about that? That's the Dante Doggrapp natural defense. The answer is that there's different levels of juicing. There's a difference between doing perhaps a gram max of steroids only, perhaps going clean to pass tests and then starting multi-gram steroid use coupled with dozens of units of GH and maybe a hundred units of slin. Same thing that Coleman did, same as Kai, same as Jose. None competed totally clean ever. There is no winning the Universe clean. Come on now. :D
Haha true
I cant understand natural bodybuilding anyway
Why limit your potential by being stubborn to take a bit of gear
Same ppl drink alcohol and smoke
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I fucking hate when they do this
I should mod this shit hole, things would be different around here 8)
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Ron: whore. Simple as that. Honesty is foreign to him.
Jose and Tito NEVER competed natural. Oh, but Jose put on so much size suddenly, what about that? That's the Dante Doggrapp natural defense. The answer is that there's different levels of juicing. There's a difference between doing perhaps a gram max of steroids only, perhaps going clean to pass tests and then starting multi-gram steroid use coupled with dozens of units of GH and maybe a hundred units of slin. Same thing that Coleman did, same as Kai, same as Jose. None competed totally clean ever. There is no winning the Universe clean. Come on now. :D
hundred units of slin :o
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I wish dave would have had a tanktop on, his arms would have looked better lol.
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I wish dave would have had a tanktop on, his arms would have looked better lol.
Monster forearms on Gunter.
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you do knwo he is brother of tito right? tito still claim natural when he was more juiced than most of us pros back in the day ,,they are latino famiy of liars,,skanky liars,,they buy gh kits like there is no tomorrow ,,both brothers ,,
gh15 approved
Getbigs own "Tito24"!!??!! ;D
PS gh15, why dont you answer my pms? lol
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fucking morons these mods
merging threads for no fucking reason
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Me thinks dat there is some kind of conspiracy to undermine da wisdom of God, and that is why the threads have been mergered. Just hope they don't get around to lumping all of the pm q answered into one great big thread...
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Thread merging is the worst shit ever. It just makes it a clusterfuck, and kills threads.
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the Phil Heath that was at the Olympia this year would have been very comparable to the top guys in the 90's. Old timers nostalgia is clouding your judgement.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
takes deep breath.................. ....
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
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Guy's today just do not come close to ultra hard dry graniness like Dozer :-\