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BREAKTHROUGH: First HIV-Positive Man Cured
Stem Cell Transplant Cures HIV In 'Berlin Patient'
The Huffington Post | Carly Schwartz First Posted: 12-14-10 01:04 PM | Updated: 12-14-10 02:00 PM
On the heels of World AIDS Day comes a stunning medical breakthrough: Doctors believe an HIV-positive man who underwent a stem cell transplant has been cured as a result of the procedure.
Timothy Ray Brown, also known as the "Berlin Patient," received the transplant in 2007 as part of a lengthy treatment course for leukemia. His doctors recently published a report in the journal Blood affirming that the results of extensive testing "strongly suggest that cure of HIV infection has been achieved."
While Brown is the first person to ever be declared cured of HIV, his case paves a path for constructing a cure for HIV through genetically-engineered stem cells.
Last week, Time named another AIDS-related discovery to its list of the Top 10 Medical Breakthroughs of 2010. Recent studies show that healthy individuals who take antiretrovirals, medicine commonly prescribed for treating HIV, can reduce their risk of contracting the disease by up to 73 percent.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/hiv-cure-berli...
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great news,too bad the U.S. couldn't have done it, but all the Jesus people want to bring us back to the 19th century
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BREAKTHROUGH: First HIV-Positive Man Cured
Stem Cell Transplant Cures HIV In 'Berlin Patient'
The Huffington Post | Carly Schwartz First Posted: 12-14-10 01:04 PM | Updated: 12-14-10 02:00 PM
On the heels of World AIDS Day comes a stunning medical breakthrough: Doctors believe an HIV-positive man who underwent a stem cell transplant has been cured as a result of the procedure.
Timothy Ray Brown, also known as the "Berlin Patient," received the transplant in 2007 as part of a lengthy treatment course for leukemia. His doctors recently published a report in the journal Blood affirming that the results of extensive testing "strongly suggest that cure of HIV infection has been achieved."
While Brown is the first person to ever be declared cured of HIV, his case paves a path for constructing a cure for HIV through genetically-engineered stem cells.
Last week, Time named another AIDS-related discovery to its list of the Top 10 Medical Breakthroughs of 2010. Recent studies show that healthy individuals who take antiretrovirals, medicine commonly prescribed for treating HIV, can reduce their risk of contracting the disease by up to 73 percent.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/hiv-cure-berli...
Stem cells stuff ain't christian!!!!!! >:(
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Stem cells stuff ain't christian!!!!!! >:(
As long as Christians or any religion for that matter, rail against and try to stop our technology from progressing forward, they deserve none of the breakthroughs.
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As long as Christians or any religion for that matter, rail against and try to stop our technology from progressing forward, they deserve none of the breakthroughs.
Good idea,
The people crying about it will be the first to try and take advantage of the breakthroughs!
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Stem cells stuff ain't christian!!!!!! >:(
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Paging Drs. loco and McWay . . . .
If either of them read this I'm sure they will lay the appropriate smack down. :)
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Paging Drs. loco and McWay . . . .
If either of them read this I'm sure they will lay the appropriate smack down. :)
You rang? ;D
As Paul Harvey used to say, "And now, here's the rest of the story"
Of course, this would be the part that Blacken "conveniently ::) " left out:
Timothy Ray Brown, an HIV-positive American living in Germany, had leukemia and was undergoing chemotherapy, when he received a transplant of stem cells from a donor carrying a rare, inherited gene mutation that seems to make carriers virtually immune to HIV infection
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/ (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/)
Notice what type of stem cells are NOT MENTIONED!!!
After all these years, people like Blacken are still using the stupid trick of confusing ADULT stem cell research with embryonic stem cell research, the one form of stem-cell research which most Christians oppose (and hasn't cured JACK).
The rest, contrary to the foolishness spouted here, are FULLY SUPPORTED BY Christians.
But, don't take my word for it:
How did Babytooth Technologies get started?
The story behind the company is really quite interesting. The creation of Babytooth Technologies basically began on or about the same day the National Institutes of Health (NIH) publicly released the discovery of SHED (Stem cells from Human Exfoliated Deciduous teeth). Jason had read an editorial about SHED in a local newspaper and his first thought was: “This is something really positive. This may really help people. I wonder if people can store these cells.”
Interestingly when Jason moved his family to Vermont, he met John, and soon thereafter their search for a Christian church brought them to our fellowship. What’s most interesting is that during the same period of events I was also understanding that the God-centered way to utilize stem cells was through adult stem cells and not embryonic stem cells and was beginning to learn about SHED. We began an investigational group that, to date, includes several leading medical professionals across the country.
We never would have thought an opportunity quite like this would come along, but knowing that the Lord has prepared all things in advance for us to do, we were able to rest in His guidance and trust in our abilities. We are thankful for the professionals and friends who continue to help pass on our message—most of whom, and not coincidently, have turned out to be Christians.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth&sa=X (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth&sa=X)
And...
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm (http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm)
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/index.html (http://www.stemcellresearch.org/index.html)
I guess now the scoreboard reads:
Adult Stem Cells - 74; Embryonic Stem cells.....ZERO!!
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Stem cells stuff ain't christian!!!!!! >:(
Says who? (See the above post).
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You rang? ;D
As Paul Harvey used to say, "And now, here's the rest of the story"
Of course, this would be the part that Blacken "conveniently ::) " left out:
Timothy Ray Brown, an HIV-positive American living in Germany, had leukemia and was undergoing chemotherapy, when he received a transplant of stem cells from a donor carrying a rare, inherited gene mutation that seems to make carriers virtually immune to HIV infection
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/ (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/)
Notice what type of stem cells are NOT MENTIONED!!!
After all these years, people like Blacken are still using the stupid trick of confusing ADULT stem cell research with embryonic stem cell research, the one form of stem-cell research which most Christians oppose (and hasn't cured JACK).
The rest, contrary to the foolishness spouted here, are FULLY SUPPORTED BY Christians.
But, don't take my word for it:
How did Babytooth Technologies get started?
The story behind the company is really quite interesting. The creation of Babytooth Technologies basically began on or about the same day the National Institutes of Health (NIH) publicly released the discovery of SHED (Stem cells from Human Exfoliated Deciduous teeth). Jason had read an editorial about SHED in a local newspaper and his first thought was: “This is something really positive. This may really help people. I wonder if people can store these cells.”
Interestingly when Jason moved his family to Vermont, he met John, and soon thereafter their search for a Christian church brought them to our fellowship. What’s most interesting is that during the same period of events I was also understanding that the God-centered way to utilize stem cells was through adult stem cells and not embryonic stem cells and was beginning to learn about SHED. We began an investigational group that, to date, includes several leading medical professionals across the country.
We never would have thought an opportunity quite like this would come along, but knowing that the Lord has prepared all things in advance for us to do, we were able to rest in His guidance and trust in our abilities. We are thankful for the professionals and friends who continue to help pass on our message—most of whom, and not coincidently, have turned out to be Christians.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth&sa=X (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth&sa=X)
And...
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm (http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm)
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/index.html (http://www.stemcellresearch.org/index.html)
I guess now the scoreboard reads:
Adult Stem Cells - 74; Embryonic Stem cells.....ZERO!!
LOL! ;D Nice.
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Says who? (See the above post).
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I thought someone did.................
;D
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I thought someone did.................
;D
The folks on Huffington Post are making the same silly mistake as Blacken did. They didn't bother reading about what type of stem cells were actually used, before flapping their lips.
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The folks on Huffington Post are making the same silly mistake as Blacken did. They didn't bother reading about what type of stem cells were actually used, before flapping their lips.
Answers in Genesis. Really? Give me a fucking break. I can`t take you seriously whatsoever. Sorry.
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Answers in Genesis. Really? Give me a fucking break. I can`t take you seriously whatsoever. Sorry.
LMAO coming from the trust fund baby whos never held a real job....priceless only on getbig baby
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The left wingers have never heard of Adult Stem Cell research. And then they say that we Christians are dumb and uneducated. ;D
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As long as Christians or any religion for that matter, rail against and try to stop our technology from progressing forward, they deserve none of the breakthroughs.
and as long as you rail against the military and police you deserve none of their protection and services... ;)
idiot ::)
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This "breakthrough" came from adult stem cell research, and Christians approve of adult stem cell research. Also, while in Office, President Bush approved 250 million federal dollars towards adult stem cell research.
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I never get tired of seeing Blacken, TA and all the stupid atheists get owned time and time again.
Hilarious.
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This "breakthrough" came from adult stem cell research, and Christians approve of adult stem cell research. Also, while in Office, President Bush approved 250 million federal dollars towards adult stem cell research.
Yup:
"Doctors in Germany say they have cured an American living there who has the HIV/AIDS virus by using a treatment based on adult stem cells, the more ethical form of stem cell research."
http://www.lifenews.com/2010/12/14/bio-3233/
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2010/12/14/adult-stem-cell-transplant-cures-hiv-positive-man-say-docs
Left wing, neo-liberal, anti-Christian bigots need to get educated on stem cell research, the different types, which one works and which one doesn't and what exactly it is that Christians are opposed to.
Christians have always fully supported Adult Stem Cell research, which is the only one that has so far shown promise.
What Christians oppose is Federal funding for Embryonic Stem Cell research, which not only do Christians find unethical, but it also has shown zero promise despite all of the funding it has received from private companies and other governments around the world.
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Wait...stem cells are a political thing?
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Wait...stem cells are a political thing?
actually, yes
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Answers in Genesis. Really? Give me a fucking break. I can`t take you seriously whatsoever. Sorry.
If I try REEEEEEAAAALLLY hard, I just might be able to pretend that I care.
The bottom line is, Einstein, Blacken and other crackpots like him (which may include YOU) pulled the usual foolish tactic of chirping about Christians opposing stem cell research. The only kind they do oppose is embryonic stem cell research, which hasn't cured jack and WAS NOT USED in this HIV-treatment.
The AiG link to Dr. Crossman, CEO of Babytooth Technologies was simply another nail in that coffin.
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Answers in Genesis. Really? Give me a fucking break. I can`t take you seriously whatsoever. Sorry.
lol
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and as long as you rail against the military and police you deserve none of their protection and services... ;)
idiot ::)
Good point.
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actually, yes
Kind of thought it might be a medical issue.. but apparently if you are against stem cell research you are in someway obligated to be against same sex marriage and not taxing hella rich people and youre anti abortion and pro torture.. funny how this works..
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'when they discover the cure for AIDS there will be fucking in the streets.' -Bill Hicks
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Kind of thought it might be a medical issue.. but apparently if you are against stem cell research you are in someway obligated to be against same sex marriage and not taxing hella rich people and youre anti abortion and pro torture.. funny how this works..
NOPE!!! You can be FOR adult stem cell research but AGAINST embryonic stem cell research.
You can also keep marriage defined as a union between a man and a woman.
You can also let people (regardless of income) keep THEIR OWN MONEY, instead of letting the government sodomize them, to "give to the poor".
And, you can be all about sparing innocent babies in the wombs, while getting medieval on a bunch of guys (whose first names, middle names, last names, or some combination thereof, are Muhammad) that just tried to blow you to bits.
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NOPE!!! You can be FOR adult stem cell research but AGAINST embryonic stem cell research.
You can also keep marriage defined as a union between a man and a woman.
You can also let people (regardless of income) keep THEIR OWN MONEY, instead of letting the government sodomize them, to "give to the poor".
And, you can be all about sparing innocent babies in the wombs, while going medieval on a bunch of guys (whose first names, middle names, last names (or some combination thereof, are Muhammad) that just tried to blow you up.
you just confirmed what i said tho...you used different terms.
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you just confirmed what i said tho...you used different terms.
No, MCWAY did not confirm anything you said. He corrected you.
Are you saying that Americans are not at liberty to disagree with you and oppose their tax dollars being used to destroy human embryos?
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No, MCWAY did not confirm anything you said. He corrected you.
Are you saying that Americans are not at liberty to disagree with you and oppose their tax dollars being used to destroy human embryos?
no. i said Americans seem to all fall on the same side of all issues according to what party they affiliate themselves with.. even if those issues have nothing to do with politics or each other..
I just find it interesting.. what thread holds together, anti stem cell and no taxes but yes gitmo and torture together..
What thread holds together. massive taxes, right to gay marriage but government intervention
Because at its core some of these issues should switch sides due to idology.. if Dems want to controll peoples lives they should be the ones banning same sex marriage and the authors of the patriot act and against abortions.. and repubs are supposed to hate government intervention should be for the right to marry a racoon and for a womans right to her body decisions.. i just find it interesting. The only group to not fall in step with party politics on everything are blacks in california who are supposed to be liberal yet voted against gay marriage. just something interesting. Chris Rock said it best "no one is all one thing. Some things im liberal about and some things im conservative about... Guns im Conservative, prostitution, im liberal.." sadly thats not the case in America,.
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no. i said Americans seem to all fall on the same side of all issues according to what party they affiliate themselves with.. even if those issues have nothing to do with politics or each other..
I just find it interesting.. what thread holds together, anti stem cell and no taxes but yes gitmo and torture together..
What thread holds together. massive taxes, right to gay marriage but government intervention
Because at its core some of these issues should switch sides due to idology.. if Dems want to controll peoples lives they should be the ones banning same sex marriage and the authors of the patriot act and against abortions.. and repubs are supposed to hate government intervention should be for the right to marry a racoon and for a womans right to her body decisions.. i just find it interesting. The only group to not fall in step with party politics on everything are blacks in california who are supposed to be liberal yet voted against gay marriage. just something interesting. Chris Rock said it best "no one is all one thing. Some things im liberal about and some things im conservative about... Guns im Conservative, prostitution, im liberal.." sadly thats not the case in America,.
Nice thread derail!
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Wait...stem cells are a political thing?
actually, yes
Kind of thought it might be a medical issue.. but apparently if you are against stem cell research you are in someway obligated to be against same sex marriage and not taxing hella rich people and youre anti abortion and pro torture.. funny how this works..
NOPE!!! You can be FOR adult stem cell research but AGAINST embryonic stem cell research.
You can also keep marriage defined as a union between a man and a woman.
You can also let people (regardless of income) keep THEIR OWN MONEY, instead of letting the government sodomize them, to "give to the poor".
And, you can be all about sparing innocent babies in the wombs, while getting medieval on a bunch of guys (whose first names, middle names, last names, or some combination thereof, are Muhammad) that just tried to blow you to bits.
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great news,too bad the U.S. couldn't have done it, but all the Jesus people want to bring us back to the 19th century
Stem cells stuff ain't christian!!!!!! >:(
As long as Christians or any religion for that matter, rail against and try to stop our technology from progressing forward, they deserve none of the breakthroughs.
Of course, this would be the part that Blacken "conveniently ::) " left out:
Timothy Ray Brown, an HIV-positive American living in Germany, had leukemia and was undergoing chemotherapy, when he received a transplant of stem cells from a donor carrying a rare, inherited gene mutation that seems to make carriers virtually immune to HIV infection
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/ (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/12/14/doctors-claim-hiv-positive-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/)
Notice what type of stem cells are NOT MENTIONED!!!
After all these years, people like Blacken are still using the stupid trick of confusing ADULT stem cell research with embryonic stem cell research, the one form of stem-cell research which most Christians oppose (and hasn't cured JACK).
The rest, contrary to the foolishness spouted here, are FULLY SUPPORTED BY Christians.
I guess now the scoreboard reads:
Adult Stem Cells - 74; Embryonic Stem cells.....ZERO!!
This "breakthrough" came from adult stem cell research, and Christians approve of adult stem cell research. Also, while in Office, President Bush approved 250 million federal dollars towards adult stem cell research.
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BREAKTHROUGH: First HIV-Positive Man Cured
Stem Cell Transplant Cures HIV In 'Berlin Patient'
The Huffington Post | Carly Schwartz First Posted: 12-14-10 01:04 PM | Updated: 12-14-10 02:00 PM
On the heels of World AIDS Day comes a stunning medical breakthrough: Doctors believe an HIV-positive man who underwent a stem cell transplant has been cured as a result of the procedure.
Timothy Ray Brown, also known as the "Berlin Patient," received the transplant in 2007 as part of a lengthy treatment course for leukemia. His doctors recently published a report in the journal Blood affirming that the results of extensive testing "strongly suggest that cure of HIV infection has been achieved."
While Brown is the first person to ever be declared cured of HIV, his case paves a path for constructing a cure for HIV through genetically-engineered stem cells.
Last week, Time named another AIDS-related discovery to its list of the Top 10 Medical Breakthroughs of 2010. Recent studies show that healthy individuals who take antiretrovirals, medicine commonly prescribed for treating HIV, can reduce their risk of contracting the disease by up to 73 percent.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/hiv-cure-berli...
Medicine in America is dictated by the lucrative pharmaceutical industry who are uninterested in cures. Cures reduce revenue.
Stem cells curing disease IS BAD FOR BUSINESS.
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Stem cells FTW.