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Title: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Meso_z on December 23, 2010, 12:26:39 AM
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Fortress on December 23, 2010, 12:46:43 AM
Is there any sort of plan in action here? Yes, I know he's Mr. Olympia, but let's face it, Jay made all his intial gains with genetics, drugs and typical horseshit pump-style lifting. He's still training like he did in the beginning ... and it no longer cuts the mustard. That is, if he's looking to add muscle, thickness, etc.

Watch the video and tell me he's not just running through the motions. 
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: mass243 on December 23, 2010, 01:03:39 AM
Lot of Team Cutler in dat video  8)



BTW, LOL @ how Jay advise his training partner to "really stretch, squeeze, contract" etc and then himself use form shitty as hell  ;D
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: GWAR on December 23, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
jay cutlers arms look like a fat girls legs
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: JasonH on December 23, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
Is there any sort of plan in action here? Yes, I know he's Mr. Olympia, but let's face it, Jay made all his intial gains with genetics, drugs and typical horseshit pump-style lifting. He's still training like he did in the beginning ... and it no longer cuts the mustard. That is, if he's looking to add muscle, thickness, etc.

Watch the video and tell me he's not just running through the motions. 

He's Mr Olympia - how much more muscle do you expect him to be able to add?
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: mass243 on December 23, 2010, 01:11:15 AM
jay cutlers arms look like a fat girls legs

No. Like thick
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Saram on December 23, 2010, 01:13:16 AM
He's Mr Olympia - how much more muscle do you expect him to be able to add?

Yep. Going through the motions is working for him. He's always been a very methodical kind of guy.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: boundupone on December 23, 2010, 03:08:27 AM
doesnt he say towards the end of the video that this is only his 2nd week back in training?  if that is the case then he looks pretty good.  i think he just trains sensibly and tries to avoid injuries.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: epic_alien on December 23, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
Is there any sort of plan in action here? Yes, I know he's Mr. Olympia, but let's face it, Jay made all his intial gains with genetics, drugs and typical horseshit pump-style lifting. He's still training like he did in the beginning ... and it no longer cuts the mustard. That is, if he's looking to add muscle, thickness, etc.

Watch the video and tell me he's not just running through the motions. 

he has reached the pinnacle of his profession.

what the fuck does he need to work on? he doesnt need to add anything, he is already there.

fuck your stupid
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: tendonitis on December 23, 2010, 05:33:31 AM
watching the fridge train is like watching a factory worker do their job. they just want to get it over with, no passion, no intensity
that's fine, it works for him. but quit taping that shit like it's interesting to watch
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 23, 2010, 05:38:02 AM
You can ask yourself,

How much of this circus is actually a "sport" ?
The intensity and time these guys spend in the gym, is laughable.

All drugs.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: jaejonna on December 23, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
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Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Below Me on December 23, 2010, 06:20:14 AM
Still going to get half of the Mr. O wannabes training like this over at MD.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Slapper on December 23, 2010, 06:23:41 AM
As entertaining as this:

Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2010, 07:45:51 AM
great lines on jay... he just needs more mass in order to be competitive.




















Love, 1996.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Wiggs on December 23, 2010, 07:49:31 AM
Boring called, it wants its personality traits back.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Tito24 on December 23, 2010, 08:14:13 AM
jays vids are so boring they use these tapes in special therapies with people with sleeping disorders.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: geneticmarvel on December 23, 2010, 10:16:38 AM
Athletic Club? Why does this guy always train at these pansy gyms? Is he just going there to get attention or what!?
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: StickStickly on December 23, 2010, 10:54:45 AM
Yeah... thats what i want, a jay cutler wife beater as a stocking stuffer  ::)
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 23, 2010, 10:59:55 AM
Funny how he describes that he's doing certain exercise to bring lower back,bla,bla,  It doesnt matter the back routine at that point, his muscles can only get bigger or smaller depending on the doses he's been on the most recent cycle.




WWWWOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Fortress on December 23, 2010, 11:00:24 AM
he has reached the pinnacle of his profession.

what the fuck does he need to work on? he doesnt need to add anything, he is already there.

fuck your stupid

(sic) "fuck your stupid"

Way to hammer home your point, cheesedick.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 23, 2010, 11:02:21 AM
not *quite* ronnie coleman's training clips.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 23, 2010, 11:02:57 AM
Jays vids are so boring, howieW uses them as inspiration for his posts.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 23, 2010, 11:04:16 AM
Still going to get half of the Mr. O wannabes training like this over at MD.

X2  .


WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: chaos on December 23, 2010, 09:28:36 PM
he has reached the pinnacle of his profession.

what the fuck does he need to work on? he doesnt need to add anything, he is already there.

fuck your stupid
"You're"...........epic_retard.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 23, 2010, 09:52:22 PM
When guys start putting their own names on shirts and calling it a brand, they dun jumped the shark. Cutler's fall is near. Too bad, seems like a good guy. Just bad advice.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: The.Giant on December 23, 2010, 10:30:19 PM
When guys start putting their own names on shirts and calling it a brand, they dun jumped the shark. Cutler's fall is near. Too bad, seems like a good guy. Just bad advice.

His fall is not near at all, he outmassed everybody at the last O. The only way anybody is taking him down is if a) he comes in soft as shit or b) somebody (maybe heath) makes colemanesque gains.


Kai's done, Wolf's done, Branch has peaked, Victor's done, Dexter never changes, Roelly needs another 5 years without getting injured or having health problems, Rockell's too short, Freeman's too old, Evan's nowhere close, Ruhl's done :(, etc, etc.

Jay knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: mass243 on December 23, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
His fall is not near at all, he outmassed everybody at the last O. The only way anybody is taking him down is if a) he comes in soft as shit or b) somebody (maybe heath) makes colemanesque gains.


Kai's done, Wolf's done, Branch has peaked, Victor's done, Dexter never changes, Roelly needs another 5 years without getting injured or having health problems, Rockell's too short, Freeman's too old, Evan's nowhere close, Ruhl's done :(, etc, etc.

Jay knows what he's doing.

Thank god for that.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Parker on December 23, 2010, 10:37:46 PM
Yep. Going through the motions is working for him. He's always been a very methodical kind of guy.
Yes, because he's always been known for superior back thickness and detail....it's his calling card.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: epic_alien on December 24, 2010, 12:11:08 AM
"You're"...........epic_retard.

thank you professor, when is nexts weeks paper due?

also, have a nice tall dark glass... of my piss
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 24, 2010, 08:31:52 AM
All,

I'm not a professional bodybuilder or even a "real" bodybuilder, I'm just an average homosexual who likes muscle.

That being said, aren't "behind-the-neck lat pulldowns" a recipe for injury?  All of my life, I've heard that the move can actually cause tears and all sorts of boo boos.

The professionals here that are expert trainers, what is your take?

"1"
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Shockwave on December 24, 2010, 08:40:52 AM
All,

I'm not a professional bodybuilder or even a "real" bodybuilder, I'm just an average homosexual who likes muscle.

That being said, aren't "behind-the-neck lat pulldowns" a recipe for injury?  All of my life, I've heard that the move can actually cause tears and all sorts of boo boos.

The professionals here that are expert trainers, what is your take?

"1"
Odd, I was thinking the same thing while watching that vid. (About the pulldowns, not the average homo thing) ((No homo))
Interested in hearing peoples take on that.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 24, 2010, 08:45:12 AM
Odd, I was thinking the same thing while watching that vid. (About the pulldowns, not the average homo thing) ((No homo))
Interested in hearing peoples take on that.

Seems strange that our very own Mr. Olympia would perform such a move that supposedly has no true benefit only a sure-fire potential for injury.

Again, I'm not a trainer or even a skilled bodybuilder, but I could have sworn to have heard Bob Chick say many times that this particular move is dangerous.  I could be wrong on that.

Maybe Coach, Alex23, ManBearPig, Chaos, GH15, Chick or some of the other veteran lifters could chip in and give us their take...

"1"
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Shockwave on December 24, 2010, 08:48:06 AM
Seems strange that our very own Mr. Olympia would perform such a move that supposedly has no true benefit only a sure-fire potential for injury.

Again, I'm not a trainer or even a skilled bodybuilder, but I could have sworn to have heard Bob Chick say many times that this particular move is dangerous.  I could be wrong on that.

Maybe Coach, Alex23, ManBearPig, Chaos, GH15, Chick or some of the other veteran lifters could chip in and give us their take...

"1"
its not just that, Ive heard that ANY excersize behind the neck like that is very dangerous, seated BTN presses, and BTN pulldowns, something about the range of motion being to deep and putting way to much stress on the body.
I know for sure the behind the neck presses are terrible, but Im not so sure about the pulldowns.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 24, 2010, 09:02:46 AM
All,

I'm not a professional bodybuilder or even a "real" bodybuilder, I'm just an average homosexual who likes muscle.

That being said, aren't "behind-the-neck lat pulldowns" a recipe for injury?  All of my life, I've heard that the move can actually cause tears and all sorts of boo boos.

The professionals here that are expert trainers, what is your take?

"1"

Yep...nothing behind the neck, no presses, no pulldowns, no pullups, etc, it's just asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 24, 2010, 09:08:47 AM
standing behind the neck barbell press is one of my favourite shoulder exercises

a wider grip keeps it safe, I find
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Meso_z on December 24, 2010, 09:21:28 AM
its not just that, Ive heard that ANY excersize behind the neck like that is very dangerous, seated BTN presses, and BTN pulldowns, something about the range of motion being to deep and putting way to much stress on the body.
I know for sure the behind the neck presses are terrible, but Im not so sure about the pulldowns.
they are terrible as far as safety goes but they are great for overall delt development..
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Tito24 on December 24, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
standing behind the neck barbell press is one of my favourite shoulder exercises

a wider grip keeps it safe, I find

yes great exercise bro
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: 225for70 on December 24, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
Jay took a long time completely away from training....
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Cableguy on December 24, 2010, 12:26:26 PM
its not just that, Ive heard that ANY excersize behind the neck like that is very dangerous, seated BTN presses, and BTN pulldowns, something about the range of motion being to deep and putting way to much stress on the body.
I know for sure the behind the neck presses are terrible, but Im not so sure about the pulldowns.

Used to love behind the neck presses, very effective. But I'm definitely convinced that they contributed greatly to my rotator cuff issues... :(
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: chaos on December 24, 2010, 12:56:24 PM
thank you professor, when is nexts weeks paper due?

also, have a nice tall dark glass... of my piss
If your piss is dark, I would suggest seeing your doctor for a referral to a urologist. :)
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Boost on December 24, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
He's already at the top.

Why train like an animal and risk inury?

Jay's smart. He knows his limits.

That being said, on his new dvd he deadlifts 7 plates for 3 reps at the end of his back workout.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Tito24 on December 24, 2010, 12:59:09 PM
i have weed in my sack and even i have it in a plastic sack the smell is still coming through it haha.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: epic_alien on December 24, 2010, 01:37:20 PM
If your piss is dark, I would suggest seeing your doctor for a referral to a urologist. :)

yes doctor right away,

also what was my grade on my last paper i turned in, professor piss drinker
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: chaos on December 24, 2010, 01:41:47 PM
yes doctor right away,

also what was my grade on my last paper i turned in, professor piss drinker
You failed, just like the rest of your life.

You =  :'(
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: tbombz on December 24, 2010, 05:10:43 PM
Yep...nothing behind the neck, no presses, no pulldowns, no pullups, etc, it's just asking for trouble.
nah, warm up properly, keep the weight controlled while you lift it, go heavy but not too heavy that our over exerting yourself. lots of rotator cuff work. should be fine.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: Saram on December 25, 2010, 12:40:16 AM
Seems strange that our very own Mr. Olympia would perform such a move that supposedly has no true benefit only a sure-fire potential for injury.

Again, I'm not a trainer or even a skilled bodybuilder, but I could have sworn to have heard Bob Chick say many times that this particular move is dangerous.  I could be wrong on that.

Maybe Coach, Alex23, ManBearPig, Chaos, GH15, Chick or some of the other veteran lifters could chip in and give us their take...

"1"


You're just putting alot of strain on the rotator cuff area to statically hold the position in such a tight area, e.g. the contraction stage of behind neck pulldowns. It's frankly tough to keep your body alignment taught and correct while actually pulling the bar down below your neck. The body wasn't designed for it.
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: WillRiker on December 27, 2010, 07:14:27 AM
A few years ago Jay's form was much better but it looks like that the bad form work because he's gotten bigger and bigger.

Still, intensity is very low and his video's are quite boring...
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 27, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
Is there any sort of plan in action here? Yes, I know he's Mr. Olympia, but let's face it, Jay made all his intial gains with genetics, drugs and typical horseshit pump-style lifting. He's still training like he did in the beginning ... and it no longer cuts the mustard. That is, if he's looking to add muscle, thickness, etc.

Watch the video and tell me he's not just running through the motions. 

I'm surprised in the slack he allows while doing low rows. Its only a faction of a second but still :-\
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 27, 2010, 01:52:44 PM
Seems strange that our very own Mr. Olympia would perform such a move that supposedly has no true benefit only a sure-fire potential for injury.

Again, I'm not a trainer or even a skilled bodybuilder, but I could have sworn to have heard Bob Chick say many times that this particular move is dangerous.  I could be wrong on that.

Maybe Coach, Alex23, ManBearPig, Chaos, GH15, Chick or some of the other veteran lifters could chip in and give us their take...

"1"

LOL, "I like your style dude".
Title: Re: Jay training back - December 18th.
Post by: chaos on December 27, 2010, 09:04:33 PM
its not just that, Ive heard that ANY excersize behind the neck like that is very dangerous, seated BTN presses, and BTN pulldowns, something about the range of motion being to deep and putting way to much stress on the body.
I know for sure the behind the neck presses are terrible, but Im not so sure about the pulldowns.
Yep...nothing behind the neck, no presses, no pulldowns, no pullups, etc, it's just asking for trouble.

Bullshit, as long as there is a good warm up, I have never had any issues with BTN Pulldowns or Presses. Problem is people will often go too heavy, then blame the exercise and not their ability to lift it. I prefer BTN presses in the smith machine anyways, you don't have to worry about it hitting the pins on the rack, or standing, which I don't do that often anymore........