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Congress Screws the People: The Lifter Even More!
JustinEdwards on Dec 24th, 2010
Readers may ask why this is important information at first glance but of all things to discuss here this may indeed be one of the most important yet.
In the beginning it looked as if it would be defeated but I’m sorry to say the nightmare is real. The Food Safety Modernization Act S.510 has now passed both houses of congress and is set to be signed into law by president Obama before Christmas. Why is this important and why should you care? As someone who has an interest in training and lifting and all that encompasses and as regulations become tighter on performance enhancing drugs across the globe, this legislation in the U.S. could indeed have a far more reaching effect on the trainer than any law so far.
The “EXCUSE” for this legislation was brought forth due to the few instances of tainted foods that hit the shelves the past few years; most notably a very small percentage of eggs and beef and a fair amount of spinach. This new legislation will extend the power and reach of the FDA beyond oversight and directly into powerful regulation; you might say the FDA is now on steroids! Of course as we all know, government works best when it has far reaching power beyond its intent (Sarcasm Intended.)
It has been common practice for the FDA to regulate food when outbreaks occur; most would agree this is good; if a producer brings forth tainted food they should be required to fix it and no producer is purposely going to deliver tainted food; like all business, food production desires to bring forth a good product. However, now the FDA has the power to regulate beforehand.
I know what you’re thinking “so what? We want quality, safe food.” Of course you do and again, no food producer wants to give you tainted beef or eggs; if you’re throwing-up after each bite of beef you won’t buy that beef anymore. But what is this new legislation going to do to prices? What else, drive them through the roof! The oversight on food production is now going to be so overreaching, the cost of meat alone is suspected to increase double at best; maybe higher.
Keep in mind as well, now the same government that recommends you only eat around 40 grams of protein per day is regulating every aspect of food production. Do you really think this is going to end well?
The only saving grace is the new incoming congress has vowed to cut federal spending. If they are to hold to this promise it will cripple the FDA and make this new legislation irrelevant. However, legislation already signed into law by a supporting president will make it a battle of brutal proportions. There is also a chance of a repeal of the law when the new congress takes power and even though a longshot it’s worth fighting for. When the new congress takes over and if you still want to be able to afford the foods you need for your training, I urge you to contact congress and tell them to repeal this horrendous law. To find contact information for your elected officials, go to http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
http://www.steroidtimes.com/congress-screws-the-people-the-lifter-even-more/2010
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the only problem with your post is that it doesnt mention what the fuck the law is!
seems a critical piece of information to be left out dont you think?
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The Food Safety Modernization Act S.510
the only problem with your post is that it doesnt mention what the fuck the law is!
seems a critical piece of information to be left out dont you think?
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Is another one of those snoped deals?
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Won't affect me. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do whether it's against the law or not.
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Won't affect me. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do whether it's against the law or not.
Of course it will affect you, it will make your grocery bill increase and increase. Saul Alinsky has said several times things needed to be done to "nudge" people towards eating less meat...Alinsky is a vegetarian...this would be that nudge.
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the only problem with your post is that it doesnt mention what the fuck the law is!
seems a critical piece of information to be left out dont you think?
I don't know how it could be any clearer.
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They will start by first nailing the Trucking Industry.
Our buddy Arnie is already imposing doubled fines for Out of Service violations. Not only is he hitting the truckers, he is nailing the companies they work for ten-fold. The trucking companies are already in competition, so the rates can only go up. The drivers are already being attacked by the FMCSA.
Eventually the driver will be paid more, and the trucking company will get higher rates. Who do you think pays this $$$$$$$????? The consumer. And who always gets a start on things?
The food industry. Not only will their prices go up, the food will start coming in smaller packages (just like before) with labels that are made to make the packages look bigger (just like before). People need food. People need fuel. People need drugs. People need to have these items transported to them. Not rocket science by any stretch of the imagination.
All of you bunghole burger-slinging butthole builders should start thinking about Class A licenses.... soon. ;D
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Won't affect me. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do whether it's against the law or not.
post of the year
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lol, americanos lol the fattest nation in history of man kind, do you really think anyone can regulate the americanos? all the fda is bunvh of obeese fatsos look at only me from this board you think he is only one? million like him in americana and i mean MILLIONS, americanos first of all can not afford costly food in general especially the middle class blue class - they only go kfc mcdonalds wendys burger king etc they love their value meals they are build on it,
you take the power of fat food from them they wont work the same ,,they wont work the same ,,american is gone,,remember americnaa is built on the power of its many people that are dumb to let goverment rule them ,,but in reality its the many people who decide whos who and what what ,,and their food is more important to them than their children ....and you know how kids important to americanos....try to pas a school buss yellow buss too fast with police around,,americanos get a hard cock on things like that,,they are very very crazy about their kids safety they only ok with their kids being abused inside the household by step daddy,,never the les americanos love their food more than their klids,,,so you do math
gh15 approved
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here is the legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510:).
Passed the senate 11/30; still hasn't made it to the house. Likely to die if it isn't passed before republicans take over house in january.
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here is the legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510:). Passed the senate 11/30; still hasn't made it to the house. Likely to die if it isn't passed before republicans take over house in january.
Hopefully, it will never pass..
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here is the legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00510:). Passed the senate 11/30; still hasn't made it to the house. Likely to die if it isn't passed before republicans take over house in january.
"The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act was passed by Senate during a late Sunday night session, and then approved on December 21 by the House of Representatives. The bill was passed in the House with a 215-144 vote, and now will make its way to President Obama where it is expected to be signed into law.... the Bill was unexpectedly sneaked into a Sunday night Senate session, catching aides and lobbyist by surprise. The Senate approved the bill by unanimous consent, sending it to the House. Inserting an amended text of S510 into H.R.2751 (now calling bill S510 HR2751)"
http://www.suite101.com/content/s510-food-safety-act-approved-headed-to-obama-a323808
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This is a great bill that ensures the food we buy is safe to eat, putting the necessary regulations and oversight into place over the ag/food industry.
If you are against government oversight of business, then you have two options: government takeover of industry, or unregulated markets where no one is guaranteed that what they are buying won't kill them, no one has the responsibility to produce quality goods that match their description.
Obviously jgovernmentoversight/regulation of industry is the best option, allowing for the most freedom while still protecting us from self-interested,short sighted corporations who would take advantage of us, monopolize the market, jack prices up, and decrease quality to the point where it would kill us, all for their own profit.
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"The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act was passed by Senate during a late Sunday night session, and then approved on December 21 by the House of Representatives. The bill was passed in the House with a 215-144 vote, and now will make its way to President Obama where it is expected to be signed into law....the Bill was unexpectedly sneaked into a Sunday night Senate session, catching aides and lobbyist by surprise. The Senate approved the bill by unanimous consent, sending it to the House. Inserting an amended text of S510 into H.R.2751 (now calling bill S510 HR2751)"
http://www.suite101.com/content/s510-food-safety-act-approved-headed-to-obama-a323808
Looks like they combined two similar bills. Here is the one waiting for signature by pres.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR02751: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR02751:)
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Won't affect me. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do whether it's against the law or not.
^THIS^
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I don't know how it could be any clearer.
oops... still, do i have to read it all to get the gist?..
no brief summary?
i am guessing that it means that overall foods are safer for consumption?
sounds like a really terrible thing to do. :o
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oops... still, do i have to read it all to get the gist?..
no brief summary?
i am guessing that it means that overall foods are safer for consumption?
sounds like a really terrible thing to do. :o
Were foods unsafe for consumption? Has there been massive outbreaks and food poison epidemics? Are millions of Americans starving to death because of a lack of quality food? Is there anyone in America starving because of a lack of quality food?
The answer would be "No" to all of those questions.
So now the government is going to increase spending and increase regulation on something that doesn't need it.
What about ones desire to grow and sell food at their local farmers market? By the wording of this bill that would be against the law. What if I want to grow my own tomatoes as millions of Americans do? According to this bill that would be against the law.
This bill is not only unneeded but a waste of money as well.
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This is a great bill that ensures the food we buy is safe to eat, putting the necessary regulations and oversight into place over the ag/food industry.
If you are against government oversight of business, then you have two options: government takeover of industry, or unregulated markets where no one is guaranteed that what they are buying won't kill them, no one has the responsibility to produce quality goods that match their description.
Obviously jgovernmentoversight/regulation of industry is the best option, allowing for the most freedom while still protecting us from self-interested,short sighted corporations who would take advantage of us, monopolize the market, jack prices up, and decrease quality to the point where it would kill us, all for their own profit.
so you trust the government not to screw up? ohhh brother
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This is a great bill that ensures the food we buy is safe to eat, putting the necessary regulations and oversight into place over the ag/food industry.
If you are against government oversight of business, then you have two options: government takeover of industry, or unregulated markets where no one is guaranteed that what they are buying won't kill them, no one has the responsibility to produce quality goods that match their description.
Obviously jgovernmentoversight/regulation of industry is the best option, allowing for the most freedom while still protecting us from self-interested,short sighted corporations who would take advantage of us, monopolize the market, jack prices up, and decrease quality to the point where it would kill us, all for their own profit.
people will buy from reputable companies. we dont need higher prices for governments babysitting of the food industry
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Of course it will pass - to the many people who dont even read a bill, the 'Food Safety Act' sound good, and is important because we need safety in our foods, especially after the peanut, egg and broccili outbreaks.
But if someone reads it, more government regulation is just cumbersome and creates more paperwork, higher prices and of course, more government jobs that you need to pay for.
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and now comes the food shortage.... illuminati's plan is going well.
this has been mentioned in illuminatis 25 goals
there's nothing what anybody can do about it... not a thing.
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Of course it will pass - to the many people who dont even read a bill, the 'Food Safety Act' sound good, and is important because we need safety in our foods, especially after the peanut, egg and broccili outbreaks.
But if someone reads it, more government regulation is just cumbersome and creates more paperwork, higher prices and of course, more government jobs that you need to pay for.
wats the solution big RON, what are we going to about this in order to stop future bullshits like this?
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wats the solution big RON, what are we going to about this in order to stop future bullshits like this?
what makes you think you're in control and that you can do anything about it?
voting won't help, protesting won't help... the plan will go through as it's been intended. It will be succesfull, unfortunately. Like it or not.
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Won't affect me. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do whether it's against the law or not.
Well you better be good at shoplifting then. ;D
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Were foods unsafe for consumption? Has there been massive outbreaks and food poison epidemics? Are millions of Americans starving to death because of a lack of quality food? Is there anyone in America starving because of a lack of quality food?
The answer would be "No" to all of those questions.
So now the government is going to increase spending and increase regulation on something that doesn't need it.
What about ones desire to grow and sell food at their local farmers market? By the wording of this bill that would be against the law. What if I want to grow my own tomatoes as millions of Americans do? According to this bill that would be against the law.
This bill is not only unneeded but a waste of money as well.
"Exempts certain establishments that sell food directly to consumers, such as roadside stands, farmers markets or participants in a community supported agriculture program, from specified requirements of this Act."
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what makes you think you're in control and that you can do anything about it?
voting won't help, protesting won't help... the plan will go through as it's been intended. It will be succesfull, unfortunately. Like it or not.
who says im not in control? one human can do alot of things my friend and so can two
protesting is good especially if its coverd by the media
dont be so willing to give up your freedom and accept defeat so soon or at all..
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so you trust the government not to screw up? ohhh brother
you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? ::)
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personally I can't wait for the 2012 year
Illuminati is trying to play god, but because SO MANY people are waking up for the new world order they are speeding up things more than ever.
note that 2012 is 11 years after 9/11 which was a ritualistic disaster, not a terrorist attack. And the illuminati perform mega rituals every 11 years which in kabbalistic numerology is to challenge god.
That's all there is to this has been going through forever, the plan has been put out perfectly and it will happend.
So falcon, don't be silly, people have been protesting forever, all you may achieve with it is speeding up the process and making the change more forcefull.
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you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? ::)
We live in a consumer driven society. If you have two producers of product XYZ and producer one's product makes everyone throw-up, people will buy from producer two and producer one will go out of business.
The best products always win.
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We live in a consumer driven society. If you have two producers of product XYZ and producer one's product makes everyone throw-up, people will buy from producer two and producer one will go out of business.
The best products always win.
That's a nice theory but in the real world the company with the most resources wins, not the company with the best product.
And even when the best product does win, once it has established itself at the top often times the company becomes short sighted, takes advantage of their reputation, and cut costs/boosts profits by decreasing investment into their product (cut down on quality, sanitation, ect)
The fact of the matter is that the actions of large business's has a massive effect on the well being of the people and because this is true the government has every right, has the duty, to regulate industry and ensure that all of their behaviors are socially responsible.
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That's a nice theory but in the real world the company with the most resources wins, not the company with the best product.
And even when the best product does win, once it has established itself at the top often times the company becomes short sighted, takes advantage of their reputation, and cut costs/boosts profits by decreasing investment into their product (cut down on quality, sanitation, ect)
The fact of the matter is that the actions of large business's has a massive effect on the well being of the people and because this is true the government has every right, has the duty, to regulate industry and ensure that all of their behaviors are socially responsible.
These types of arguments seem to always take the turn you posted above.
No one is saying there shouldn't be any rules or regulations, of course their should be. It should be against the law to put rat-poison in peoples pop-tarts, no sane person is going to argue against that. But we don't have that situation here, we don't have a tainted food supply, in-fact we have one of the best food supplies on earth with an abundant amount of choices.
In my opinion, the argument of simply "This bill isn't needed" is argument enough.
As far as "Governments Right" if we want to get down to the specifics, government only has the right to ensure that the freedom of commerce exist and that the market is open freely to all those who desire. As long as someone who participates in that market does nothing to infringe on the unalienable rights of another person, then the government has no right to interfere on that commerce.
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you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? ::)
i trust a private industry or mom and pop to a government any day. especially if the price is lower. who is really dieng from bad grapejuice or pinto beans ::)
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These types of arguments seem to always take the turn you posted above.
No one is saying there shouldn't be any rules or regulations, of course their should be. It should be against the law to put rat-poison in peoples pop-tarts, no sane person is going to argue against that. But we don't have that situation here, we don't have a tainted food supply, in-fact we have one of the best food supplies on earth with an abundant amount of choices.
In my opinion, the argument of simply "This bill isn't needed" is argument enough.
As far as "Governments Right" if we want to get down to the specifics, government only has the right to ensure that the freedom of commerce exist and that the market is open freely to all those who desire. As long as someone who participates in that market does nothing to infringe on the unalienable rights of another person, then the government has no right to interfere on that commerce.
NO NEED??
December 2010December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall For Ginger Bread Houses Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Twenty-Three States Because Of A Possible Health Risk12
December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall Of Products Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Seven States In The Midwest Because Of A Possible Health Risk13
December 23, 2010 - Brand Castle, LLC Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Egg In Icing Of Licensed Rice Krispies Treats Holiday Village Kit Distributed Through Michaels Retail Stores Only14
December 23, 2010 - JFC International Inc. Recalls "Frozen Capelin" Due To Possible Health Risk15
December 23, 2010 - South Florida Bakery Issues Recall for Publix Bakery Coconut Macaroons (Coquitos)16
December 22, 2010 - RockHard Laboratories Issues a Voluntary Recall of Specific Lots of the Dietary Supplements RockHard Weekend and Pandora17
December 22, 2010 - Abbott Diabetes Care Announces Recall of Certain Lots of Precision Xtra®, Precision Xceed Pro®, MediSense® Optium™, Optium™, OptiumEZ and ReliOn® Ultima Blood Glucose Test Strips in the United States and Puerto Rico18
December 22, 2010 - Pfizer To Recall One Lot Of Lipitor In The U.S.19
December 20, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces Cheese Recall For Products In Three Western States And Washington, D.C. Because Of Possible Health Risk20
December 20, 2010 - IMPF Voluntarily Recalls Dips & Spreads because of Possible Health Risk21
December 20, 2010 - American Regent Initiates Voluntary Recall of Dexamethasone Sodium Phosphate Injection, USP 4 mg/mL, 30 mL Multiple Dose Vial22
December 18, 2010 - Kroger Recalls Pet Foods Due to Possible Health Risk23
December 17, 2010 - Sally Jackson Cheese Recalls All Cheese Because Of Possible Health Risk24
December 17, 2010 - YNOT FOODS INC. Issues Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk and Soybean in Upsides™ Orzo Toscano, 6/2.5lb25
December 17, 2010 - Tofutti Brands Inc. Announces Updated Information for Recall of 25 Pallets of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due to Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination26
December 10, 2010 - Toffutti Brands Inc. Announces Recall Of 25 Pallets Of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due To Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination27
December 10, 2010 - Brinkman Turkey Farms Inc. Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Soy And Milk In “Brinkman's Gourmet Barbecue Sauce”.28
December 10, 2010 - Tropical Nut & Fruit of Charlotte, NC Announces a Nationwide Voluntary Recall of Walnut Products Because of Possible Health Risk29
December 09, 2010 - McNeil Consumer Healthcare Announces Voluntary Recall Of All Lots Of Rolaids® Extra Strength Softchews, Roldaids® Extra Strength Plus Gas Softchews, And Roldaids® Multi-Symptom Plus Anti-Gas Softchews Sold In The United States30
December 09, 2010 - Reese Pharmaceutical Company Announces the Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Certain Over-The-Counter Cold Relief Products that are Mislabeled.
thaTS ONLY IN THE LAST 20 DAYS.
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i trust a private industry or mom and pop to a government any day. especially if the price is lower. who is really dieng from bad grapejuice or pinto beans ::)
private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.
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NO NEED??
December 2010December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall For Ginger Bread Houses Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Twenty-Three States Because Of A Possible Health Risk12
December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall Of Products Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Seven States In The Midwest Because Of A Possible Health Risk13
December 23, 2010 - Brand Castle, LLC Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Egg In Icing Of Licensed Rice Krispies Treats Holiday Village Kit Distributed Through Michaels Retail Stores Only14
December 23, 2010 - JFC International Inc. Recalls "Frozen Capelin" Due To Possible Health Risk15
December 23, 2010 - South Florida Bakery Issues Recall for Publix Bakery Coconut Macaroons (Coquitos)16
December 22, 2010 - RockHard Laboratories Issues a Voluntary Recall of Specific Lots of the Dietary Supplements RockHard Weekend and Pandora17
December 22, 2010 - Abbott Diabetes Care Announces Recall of Certain Lots of Precision Xtra®, Precision Xceed Pro®, MediSense® Optium™, Optium™, OptiumEZ and ReliOn® Ultima Blood Glucose Test Strips in the United States and Puerto Rico18
December 22, 2010 - Pfizer To Recall One Lot Of Lipitor In The U.S.19
December 20, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces Cheese Recall For Products In Three Western States And Washington, D.C. Because Of Possible Health Risk20
December 20, 2010 - IMPF Voluntarily Recalls Dips & Spreads because of Possible Health Risk21
December 20, 2010 - American Regent Initiates Voluntary Recall of Dexamethasone Sodium Phosphate Injection, USP 4 mg/mL, 30 mL Multiple Dose Vial22
December 18, 2010 - Kroger Recalls Pet Foods Due to Possible Health Risk23
December 17, 2010 - Sally Jackson Cheese Recalls All Cheese Because Of Possible Health Risk24
December 17, 2010 - YNOT FOODS INC. Issues Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk and Soybean in Upsides™ Orzo Toscano, 6/2.5lb25
December 17, 2010 - Tofutti Brands Inc. Announces Updated Information for Recall of 25 Pallets of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due to Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination26
December 10, 2010 - Toffutti Brands Inc. Announces Recall Of 25 Pallets Of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due To Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination27
December 10, 2010 - Brinkman Turkey Farms Inc. Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Soy And Milk In “Brinkman's Gourmet Barbecue Sauce”.28
December 10, 2010 - Tropical Nut & Fruit of Charlotte, NC Announces a Nationwide Voluntary Recall of Walnut Products Because of Possible Health Risk29
December 09, 2010 - McNeil Consumer Healthcare Announces Voluntary Recall Of All Lots Of Rolaids® Extra Strength Softchews, Roldaids® Extra Strength Plus Gas Softchews, And Roldaids® Multi-Symptom Plus Anti-Gas Softchews Sold In The United States30
December 09, 2010 - Reese Pharmaceutical Company Announces the Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Certain Over-The-Counter Cold Relief Products that are Mislabeled.
thaTS ONLY IN THE LAST 20 DAYS.
Problems will always arise and in the instances above business is taking care of itself, cleaning up the messes themselves. For example, Whole Foods has a problem with one of their products, the product is pulled off the shelf...problem solved.
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private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.
I really hope the rest of Americas youth that's going to college, or should I say community college, doesn't think like you. Because if they do, we as a collective nation are f-ing screwed.
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private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.
the government paves roads, provides shitty schools, provides police and fire department, hospital
excluding schools this really is only 4 seperate buisnesses.
most dont even use except roads
government dont do much accept make u pay taxes for life
but i see government wanting more and more control, what they have now is not enough for them. they want more money and more control, soon enough youll be paying 50 percent taxes on everything. well actually we do with our sales tax included and other miscellaneous taxes. government is ok but we dont need government like you think
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the government paves roads, provides shitty schools, provides police and fire department, hospital
excluding schools this really is only 4 seperate buisnesses.
most dont even use except roads
government dont do much accept make u pay taxes for life
but i see government wanting more and more control, what they have now is not enough for them. they want more money and more control, soon enough youll be paying 50 percent taxes on everything. well actually we do with our sales tax included and other miscellaneous taxes. government is ok but we dont need government like you think
there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.
the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours. you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.
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PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES
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there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.
the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours. you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.
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PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES
you're such a fucking piece of shit. i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.
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you're such a fucking piece of shit. i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.
;D even alan greenspan admits that the capitalistic philosophy is flawed because it doesnt realize a major flaw and that is the power of human greed
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;D even alan greenspan admits that the capitalistic philosophy is flawed because it doesnt realize a major flaw and that is the power of human greed
since when's alan greenspan an authority on shit? he got assigned to his chair, not like he deserved it. odds of him getting that job were the same as yours.
also, not like he has an outstanding legacy. ::)
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since when's alan greenspan an authority on shit? he got assigned to his chair, not like he deserved it. odds of him getting that job were the same as yours.
also, not like he has an outstanding legacy. ::)
;D LOL. 20 years as chairman of the federal reserve and a PHD in economics from NYU.
he is a douchebag.. most prominent and also most influential conservative economist of the past half century, integral to reagans, bush sr, and bush jr's economic policies as well the entire republican parties.. a sincere capitalist apologist+fanboy... but even he admits cappitalism needs regulations
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there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.
the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours. you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.
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PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES
Seriously? I guess you need to stop juicing and report yourself to the authorities because our Government only wants whats best for us, right? And since steroids are a controlled substance and illegal without a prescription, via the government you praise so blindly, you need to turn yourself in immediately. When you grow 7-8 years older, you will NOT believe in even a quarter of the shit you have been brainwashed into now. Guaranfuckingtee it.
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you're such a fucking piece of shit. i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.
God damn. It pains me to read his posts sometimes.
Woeful shit.
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private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.
It is also suppose to protect people against using illegal drugs, but they still do.....*ahem* ::)
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PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES
This hasn't been true for the past 90years. And the primary role of government is highly debatable.
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This hasn't been true for the past 90years. And the primary role of government is highly debatable.
I agree that its become debatable but it shouldn't be. The constitution is very specific in regards to the governments role yet the constitution becomes more and more ignored. Either we live by it or we don't but this half-breed way of thinking drives me insane! And if we live by the constitution, as I would hope most would prefer, then instances such as this bill would be shot down before they were brought up.
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This is a great bill that ensures the food we buy is safe to eat, putting the necessary regulations and oversight into place over the ag/food industry.
If you are against government oversight of business, then you have two options: government takeover of industry, or unregulated markets where no one is guaranteed that what they are buying won't kill them, no one has the responsibility to produce quality goods that match their description.
Obviously jgovernmentoversight/regulation of industry is the best option, allowing for the most freedom while still protecting us from self-interested,short sighted corporations who would take advantage of us, monopolize the market, jack prices up, and decrease quality to the point where it would kill us, all for their own profit.
No one is against government oversight of business. No one has a problem with the government telling auto companies that they need to put mudflaps on the back of thier vehicles's tires. But all reasonable people have a problem with the government(most of whom dont have a fucking clue about engineering) trying to tell auto companies how many miles per gallon thier engines should get and what kind of fuel thier engines should use.
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;D even alan greenspan admits that the capitalistic philosophy is flawed because it doesnt realize a major flaw and that is the power of human greed
Just like Phil Donahue you are taking a lot of things for granted.