Congress Screws the People: The Lifter Even More!

[king]

Were foods unsafe for consumption? Has there been massive outbreaks and food poison epidemics? Are millions of Americans starving to death because of a lack of quality food? Is there anyone in America starving because of a lack of quality food?

The answer would be "No" to all of those questions.

So now the government is going to increase spending and increase regulation on something that doesn't need it.

What about ones desire to grow and sell food at their local farmers market? By the wording of this bill that would be against the law. What if I want to grow my own tomatoes as millions of Americans do? According to this bill that would be against the law.

This bill is not only unneeded but a waste of money as well.

"Exempts certain establishments that sell food directly to consumers, such as roadside stands, farmers markets or participants in a community supported agriculture program, from specified requirements of this Act."

[Marty Champions]

what makes you think you're in control and that you can do anything about it?

voting won't help, protesting won't help... the plan will go through as it's been intended. It will be succesfull, unfortunately. Like it or not.

who says im not in control? one human can do alot of things my friend and so can two

protesting is good especially if its coverd by the media

dont be so willing to give up your freedom and accept defeat so soon or at all..

[tbombz]

so you trust the government not to screw up? ohhh brother

you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? 

[devilsmile]

personally I can't wait for the 2012 year

Illuminati is trying to play god, but because SO MANY people are waking up for the new world order they are speeding up things more than ever.
note that 2012 is 11 years after 9/11 which was a ritualistic disaster, not a terrorist attack. And the illuminati perform mega rituals every 11 years which in kabbalistic numerology is to challenge god.

That's all there is to this has been going through forever, the plan has been put out perfectly and it will happend.

So falcon, don't be silly, people have been protesting forever, all you may achieve with it is speeding up the process and making the change more forcefull.

[Arnold jr]

you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? 

We live in a consumer driven society. If you have two producers of product XYZ and producer one's product makes everyone throw-up, people will buy from producer two and producer one will go out of business.

The best products always win.

[tbombz]

We live in a consumer driven society. If you have two producers of product XYZ and producer one's product makes everyone throw-up, people will buy from producer two and producer one will go out of business.

The best products always win.

That's a nice theory but in the real world the company with the most resources wins, not the company with the best product.

 And even when the best product does win, once it has established itself at the top often times the company becomes short sighted, takes advantage of their reputation, and cut costs/boosts profits by decreasing investment into their product (cut down on quality, sanitation, ect)

The fact of the matter is that the actions of large business's has a massive effect on the well being of the people and because this is true the government has every right, has the duty, to regulate industry and ensure that all of their behaviors are socially responsible.

[Arnold jr]

That's a nice theory but in the real world the company with the most resources wins, not the company with the best product.

 And even when the best product does win, once it has established itself at the top often times the company becomes short sighted, takes advantage of their reputation, and cut costs/boosts profits by decreasing investment into their product (cut down on quality, sanitation, ect)

The fact of the matter is that the actions of large business's has a massive effect on the well being of the people and because this is true the government has every right, has the duty, to regulate industry and ensure that all of their behaviors are socially responsible.

These types of arguments seem to always take the turn you posted above.

No one is saying there shouldn't be any rules or regulations, of course their should be. It should be against the law to put rat-poison in peoples pop-tarts, no sane person is going to argue against that. But we don't have that situation here, we don't have a tainted food supply, in-fact we have one of the best food supplies on earth with an abundant amount of choices.

In my opinion, the argument of simply "This bill isn't needed" is argument enough.

As far as "Governments Right" if we want to get down to the specifics, government only has the right to ensure that the freedom of commerce exist and that the market is open freely to all those who desire. As long as someone who participates in that market does nothing to infringe on the unalienable rights of another person, then the government has no right to interfere on that commerce.

[Marty Champions]

you trust private industry to do whats best for the consumer? 

i trust a private industry or mom and pop to a government any day. especially if the price is lower. who is really dieng from bad grapejuice or pinto beans 

[tbombz]

These types of arguments seem to always take the turn you posted above.

No one is saying there shouldn't be any rules or regulations, of course their should be. It should be against the law to put rat-poison in peoples pop-tarts, no sane person is going to argue against that. But we don't have that situation here, we don't have a tainted food supply, in-fact we have one of the best food supplies on earth with an abundant amount of choices.

In my opinion, the argument of simply "This bill isn't needed" is argument enough.

As far as "Governments Right" if we want to get down to the specifics, government only has the right to ensure that the freedom of commerce exist and that the market is open freely to all those who desire. As long as someone who participates in that market does nothing to infringe on the unalienable rights of another person, then the government has no right to interfere on that commerce.

NO NEED??   

December 2010December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall For Ginger Bread Houses Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Twenty-Three States Because Of A Possible Health Risk12
December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall Of Products Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Seven States In The Midwest Because Of A Possible Health Risk13
December 23, 2010 - Brand Castle, LLC Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Egg In Icing Of Licensed Rice Krispies Treats Holiday Village Kit Distributed Through Michaels Retail Stores Only14
December 23, 2010 - JFC International Inc. Recalls "Frozen Capelin" Due To Possible Health Risk15
December 23, 2010 - South Florida Bakery Issues Recall for Publix Bakery Coconut Macaroons (Coquitos)16
December 22, 2010 - RockHard Laboratories Issues a Voluntary Recall of Specific Lots of the Dietary Supplements RockHard Weekend and Pandora17
December 22, 2010 - Abbott Diabetes Care Announces Recall of Certain Lots of Precision Xtra®, Precision Xceed Pro®, MediSense® Optium™, Optium™, OptiumEZ and ReliOn® Ultima Blood Glucose Test Strips in the United States and Puerto Rico18
December 22, 2010 - Pfizer To Recall One Lot Of Lipitor In The U.S.19
December 20, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces Cheese Recall For Products In Three Western States And Washington, D.C. Because Of Possible Health Risk20
December 20, 2010 - IMPF Voluntarily Recalls Dips & Spreads because of Possible Health Risk21
December 20, 2010 - American Regent Initiates Voluntary Recall of Dexamethasone Sodium Phosphate Injection, USP 4 mg/mL, 30 mL Multiple Dose Vial22
December 18, 2010 - Kroger Recalls Pet Foods Due to Possible Health Risk23
December 17, 2010 - Sally Jackson Cheese Recalls All Cheese Because Of Possible Health Risk24
December 17, 2010 - YNOT FOODS INC. Issues Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk and Soybean in Upsides™ Orzo Toscano, 6/2.5lb25
December 17, 2010 - Tofutti Brands Inc. Announces Updated Information for Recall of 25 Pallets of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due to Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination26
December 10, 2010 - Toffutti Brands Inc. Announces Recall Of 25 Pallets Of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due To Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination27
December 10, 2010 - Brinkman Turkey Farms Inc. Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Soy And Milk In “Brinkman's Gourmet Barbecue Sauce”.28
December 10, 2010 - Tropical Nut & Fruit of Charlotte, NC Announces a Nationwide Voluntary Recall of Walnut Products Because of Possible Health Risk29
December 09, 2010 - McNeil Consumer Healthcare Announces Voluntary Recall Of All Lots Of Rolaids® Extra Strength Softchews, Roldaids® Extra Strength Plus Gas Softchews, And Roldaids® Multi-Symptom Plus Anti-Gas Softchews Sold In The United States30
December 09, 2010 - Reese Pharmaceutical Company Announces the Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Certain Over-The-Counter Cold Relief Products that are Mislabeled.



thaTS ONLY IN THE LAST 20 DAYS.

[tbombz]

i trust a private industry or mom and pop to a government any day. especially if the price is lower. who is really dieng from bad grapejuice or pinto beans 

private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.

[Arnold jr]

NO NEED??   

December 2010December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall For Ginger Bread Houses Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Twenty-Three States Because Of A Possible Health Risk12
December 24, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces A Recall Of Products Which Were Produced By Rolf’s Patisserie In Seven States In The Midwest Because Of A Possible Health Risk13
December 23, 2010 - Brand Castle, LLC Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Egg In Icing Of Licensed Rice Krispies Treats Holiday Village Kit Distributed Through Michaels Retail Stores Only14
December 23, 2010 - JFC International Inc. Recalls "Frozen Capelin" Due To Possible Health Risk15
December 23, 2010 - South Florida Bakery Issues Recall for Publix Bakery Coconut Macaroons (Coquitos)16
December 22, 2010 - RockHard Laboratories Issues a Voluntary Recall of Specific Lots of the Dietary Supplements RockHard Weekend and Pandora17
December 22, 2010 - Abbott Diabetes Care Announces Recall of Certain Lots of Precision Xtra®, Precision Xceed Pro®, MediSense® Optium™, Optium™, OptiumEZ and ReliOn® Ultima Blood Glucose Test Strips in the United States and Puerto Rico18
December 22, 2010 - Pfizer To Recall One Lot Of Lipitor In The U.S.19
December 20, 2010 - Whole Foods Market Announces Cheese Recall For Products In Three Western States And Washington, D.C. Because Of Possible Health Risk20
December 20, 2010 - IMPF Voluntarily Recalls Dips & Spreads because of Possible Health Risk21
December 20, 2010 - American Regent Initiates Voluntary Recall of Dexamethasone Sodium Phosphate Injection, USP 4 mg/mL, 30 mL Multiple Dose Vial22
December 18, 2010 - Kroger Recalls Pet Foods Due to Possible Health Risk23
December 17, 2010 - Sally Jackson Cheese Recalls All Cheese Because Of Possible Health Risk24
December 17, 2010 - YNOT FOODS INC. Issues Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk and Soybean in Upsides™ Orzo Toscano, 6/2.5lb25
December 17, 2010 - Tofutti Brands Inc. Announces Updated Information for Recall of 25 Pallets of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due to Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination26
December 10, 2010 - Toffutti Brands Inc. Announces Recall Of 25 Pallets Of Yours Truly Frozen Dessert Cones Due To Possible Trace Level Milk Contamination27
December 10, 2010 - Brinkman Turkey Farms Inc. Issues Allergy Alert On Undeclared Soy And Milk In “Brinkman's Gourmet Barbecue Sauce”.28
December 10, 2010 - Tropical Nut & Fruit of Charlotte, NC Announces a Nationwide Voluntary Recall of Walnut Products Because of Possible Health Risk29
December 09, 2010 - McNeil Consumer Healthcare Announces Voluntary Recall Of All Lots Of Rolaids® Extra Strength Softchews, Roldaids® Extra Strength Plus Gas Softchews, And Roldaids® Multi-Symptom Plus Anti-Gas Softchews Sold In The United States30
December 09, 2010 - Reese Pharmaceutical Company Announces the Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Certain Over-The-Counter Cold Relief Products that are Mislabeled.



thaTS ONLY IN THE LAST 20 DAYS.

Problems will always arise and in the instances above business is taking care of itself, cleaning up the messes themselves. For example, Whole Foods has a problem with one of their products, the product is pulled off the shelf...problem solved.

[Tito24]

[thelamefalsehood]

private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.

I really hope the rest of Americas youth that's going to college, or should I say community college, doesn't think like you. Because if they do, we as a collective nation are f-ing screwed.

[Marty Champions]

private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.

the government paves roads, provides shitty schools, provides police and fire department, hospital

excluding schools this really is only 4 seperate buisnesses.

most dont even use except roads

government dont do much accept make u pay taxes for life

but i see government wanting more and more control, what they have now is not enough for them. they want more money and more control, soon enough youll be paying 50 percent taxes on everything. well actually we do with our sales tax included and other miscellaneous taxes. government is ok but we dont need government like you think

[tbombz]

the government paves roads, provides shitty schools, provides police and fire department, hospital

excluding schools this really is only 4 seperate buisnesses.

most dont even use except roads

government dont do much accept make u pay taxes for life

but i see government wanting more and more control, what they have now is not enough for them. they want more money and more control, soon enough youll be paying 50 percent taxes on everything. well actually we do with our sales tax included and other miscellaneous taxes. government is ok but we dont need government like you think

there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.

the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours.  you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.

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PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES

[ManBearPig...]

there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.

the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours.  you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.

________________________ ________________________ ____

PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES

you're such a fucking piece of shit.  i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.

[tbombz]

you're such a fucking piece of shit.  i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.

even alan greenspan admits that the capitalistic philosophy is flawed because it doesnt realize a major flaw and that is the power of human greed

[ManBearPig...]

even alan greenspan admits that the capitalistic philosophy is flawed because it doesnt realize a major flaw and that is the power of human greed

since when's alan greenspan an authority on shit?  he got assigned to his chair, not like he deserved it.  odds of him getting that job were the same as yours.

also, not like he has an outstanding legacy.   

[tbombz]

since when's alan greenspan an authority on shit?  he got assigned to his chair, not like he deserved it.  odds of him getting that job were the same as yours.

also, not like he has an outstanding legacy.   

  LOL. 20 years as chairman of the federal reserve and a PHD in economics from NYU.

he is a douchebag.. most prominent and also most influential conservative economist of the past half century, integral to reagans, bush sr, and bush jr's economic policies as well the entire republican parties.. a sincere capitalist apologist+fanboy... but even he admits cappitalism needs regulations

[thelamefalsehood]

there is no "government" entity. there is no self interest within government, because government has no self. the "self" of the government is the people. the government does not want more and more control, the government wants whats best for the people.

the problem is thaat the government is not allowed to do what it is intended to do, instead the government is owned by corporate america, and it serves their best interest, not ours.  you say we pay more taxes? if by "we" you mean the middle and lower class, then HELL YES we pay more taxes. but dont be confused-the real money doesnt lie in the hands of the people, it lies in the upper echelon of society, with the owners of the majjor corporations. and guess what, the tax rate on corporations and wealthy people has drastically reduced over the past 50 years. the people dont hold the money-but we do hold the power. and thats why we need government to exist and to protect our best interests, to regulate markets like the food industry and others, to make sure the people who have the power behave responsibily with it.

________________________ ________________________ ____

PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES

Seriously? I guess you need to stop juicing and report yourself to the authorities because our Government only wants whats best for us, right? And since steroids are a controlled substance and illegal without a prescription, via the government you praise so blindly, you need to turn yourself in immediately. When you grow 7-8 years older, you will NOT believe in even a quarter of the shit you have been brainwashed into now. Guaranfuckingtee it.

[clued-up]

you're such a fucking piece of shit.  i fucking hate the fact that you exist, you're so dumb my dick hurts.

God damn. It pains me to read his posts sometimes.

Woeful shit.

[chaos]

private industry doesnt give a fuck about you. government exists. deal with it. you should be happy about it. because its there to protect you, protect your rights, protect your freedom and your life. this bill does just that, it protects people from self interested private industry who would sell you blended, compressed, disease infested cow shit and call it a chocolate bar if they thought they would make more money off doing so.

It is also suppose to protect people against using illegal drugs, but they still do.....*ahem*

[Emmortal]

PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT= TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEIR WELL BEING, AND WHICH THEY CANNOT DO FOR THEMSELVES

This hasn't been true for the past 90years.  And the primary role of government is highly debatable.

[Arnold jr]

This hasn't been true for the past 90years.  And the primary role of government is highly debatable.

I agree that its become debatable but it shouldn't be. The constitution is very specific in regards to the governments role yet the constitution becomes more and more ignored. Either we live by it or we don't but this half-breed way of thinking drives me insane! And if we live by the constitution, as I would hope most would prefer, then instances such as this bill would be shot down before they were brought up.

[MM2K]

This is a great bill that ensures the food we buy is safe to eat, putting the necessary regulations and oversight into place over the ag/food industry.


If you are against government oversight of business, then you have two options: government takeover of industry, or unregulated markets where no one is guaranteed that what they are buying won't kill them, no one has the responsibility to produce quality goods that match their description.

Obviously jgovernmentoversight/regulation of industry is the best option, allowing for the most freedom while still protecting us from self-interested,short sighted corporations who would take advantage of us, monopolize the market, jack prices up, and decrease quality to the point where it would kill us, all for their own profit.

No one is against government oversight of business. No one has a problem with the government telling auto companies that they need to put mudflaps on the back of thier vehicles's tires. But all reasonable people have a problem with the government(most of whom dont have a fucking clue about engineering) trying to tell auto companies how many miles per gallon thier engines should get and what kind of fuel thier engines should use.