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Title: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 29, 2010, 01:57:56 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 29, 2010, 02:03:18 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM

Way to over-think it and be stupid at the same time....impressive
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 29, 2010, 02:10:08 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Master Blaster on December 29, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM


GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH for MUTATION
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 29, 2010, 02:20:03 PM
For mutation, GH.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Wiggs on December 29, 2010, 02:22:45 PM
Nasty Mutant
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: WillGrant on December 29, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
???
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Master Blaster on December 29, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
???

Liar Priest on cadaver HGH since 11-12

hands don't lie, they show mutation
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Jaime on December 29, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM


So you are saying you are smart?
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: wes on December 29, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on December 29, 2010, 03:44:04 PM
Says the GED recipient
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: 225for70 on December 29, 2010, 03:50:35 PM
Says the GED recipient

Didn't he finish a year at community collage....?
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: US MUSL on December 29, 2010, 03:51:04 PM
Strong back weak mind.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 29, 2010, 03:57:46 PM
Way to over-think it and be stupid at the same time....impressive

pwnt
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: 225for70 on December 29, 2010, 04:11:01 PM
Does anyone know anything about where Tdizzle Went to school? Degree?

The chap knows about 30 drug dealers that could run fortune 50 companies

He also knows about supply and demand. :D

Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Saram on December 29, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
The more you know, the more you grow.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Rami on December 29, 2010, 04:32:01 PM
dumb: doesn't fully grasp the concept of health and restricts nothing in terms of drugs and food

smart: errors on the side of caution
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 29, 2010, 05:00:03 PM

 ;D



...of course progressive overload, food, and drugs is a prequisite, but if you dont believe your going to look like you want to, then you most definitely will not. even with GH for "mutation", testosterona, trenbolona, nitrotech, the works.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: no one on December 29, 2010, 05:03:33 PM
Way to over-think it and be stupid at the same time....impressive

LOL
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 29, 2010, 05:06:15 PM
case in point= Deicide
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
Way to over-think it and be stupid at the same time....impressive
hahahhahahah nice
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2010, 05:12:14 PM
case in point= Deicide
deicide doesnt dabble in drugs if im not mistaken, also works out in shit hole gyms and probably doesnt eat to grow that well seeing as where he is...supposedly has poor genetics too

how about just lift weights  ???

leave the philosophy for someone else eh
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 29, 2010, 05:20:10 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM

Because this shit isnt rocket science.........

End of thread!
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: 225for70 on December 29, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
case in point= Tbombz

Fixed
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Ursus on December 29, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
Brute force and ignorance coupled with consistency works 99% of the time.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: flinstones1 on December 29, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
regardless of how hard it is to believe, this may be true. Most on getbig tend to overthink shit, and look like shit. Most guys who look good, dont spend time on bbing boards because they never had to :) I am currently on 500mg test and a actually gaining and thought i was gonna shrink up.say 95 percent of people who spend time on bbing boards lack confidence and the belief to look like they do. One thing that seems verycommon in this game. The guys who seem to not "care" and approach bbing as a hobby instead of their entire existance  are the ones who turn into freaks the fastest. Never underestimate the power of the mind.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Saram on December 29, 2010, 09:15:33 PM
Brute force and ignorance coupled with consistency works 99% of the time.

Not necessarily. Even mesomorphs will stop at a point when eating your standard 3 meals a day and training balls to the wall won't make them any stronger. As for a hardgainer, forget about growing on 3 meals a day (i.e. ignorance) and balls to the wall training. There comes a point when you need to do the research.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 29, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
Not necessarily. Even mesomorphs will stop at a point when eating your standard 3 meals a day and training balls to the wall won't make them any stronger. As for a hardgainer, forget about growing on 3 meals a day (i.e. ignorance) and balls to the wall training. There comes a point when you need to do the research.

x2
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Nirvana on December 29, 2010, 09:20:12 PM
if you break it, it grows back stronger.  so you should try to completely break the muscle in half each time you enter the gym. 

to grow you have to eat.  fat has the most calories therefore crisco oil should be drank post workout.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM

Four words...... KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Too many people rely on "studies" instead of commonsense and practical application. (see fatpanda)
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 29, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
Four words...... KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Too many people rely on "studies" instead of commonsense and practical application. (see fatpanda)

only simple people need to keep it simple. People like you.

its the smart ones that read studies that have taken bodybuilding to the mass levels it is at today.

you must be too dumb to realise that.

fuck it lets just throw every piece of science out the window, physics, chemisty, biology etc fuck it all, its totally useless  ::)

complete and utter imbeciles on this site.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: chaos on December 29, 2010, 09:44:43 PM
complete and utter imbeciles on this site.
You're not without your utterly imbecilicity yourself stud.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Firemuscle on December 29, 2010, 09:53:56 PM
 Bodybuilding is almost all genetics for a natural, and almost all drugs for the competetive.

 Diet, training, consistency and all that shit are great for discipline and for the mental challange it offers. But it doesn't yield the awesome results.

 As a natural. You just lift hard a few times per week and after about 5 years you'll hit you're natural peak. Your genetic limits determine how far you will go. That's how it is. No amount of weight pounding and protein gorging will allow you to go beyond your genetic capacity.

 BLACKFLAGREDSTAR APPROVED
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2010, 10:26:16 PM
only simple people need to keep it simple. People like you.

its the smart ones that read studies that have taken bodybuilding to the mass levels it is at today.

you must be too dumb to realise that.

fuck it lets just throw every piece of science out the window, physics, chemisty, biology etc fuck it all, its totally useless  ::)

complete and utter imbeciles on this site.

You just keep on believing that bubbles, sometimes when science fails it's time to go back to basics......you're not even in my world when it comes to diet, nutrition and training! You've trained how many people, athletes and bodybuilders??
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: gh15 on December 29, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
regardless of how hard it is to believe, this may be true. Most on getbig tend to overthink shit, and look like shit. Most guys who look good, dont spend time on bbing boards because they never had to :) I am currently on 500mg test and a actually gaining and thought i was gonna shrink up.say 95 percent of people who spend time on bbing boards lack confidence and the belief to look like they do. One thing that seems verycommon in this game. The guys who seem to not "care" and approach bbing as a hobby instead of their entire existance  are the ones who turn into freaks the fastest. Never underestimate the power of the mind.

see friend i woudl like to explain somerthing for you ,,
the one who dont spend time on the boards online and dont do this things are indeed advancec but you know what? i will tell you why,,its becuse they are THE WORST ABUSERS OF HORMONES ON PLANET EARTH ! thats why,,

they dont sit and play with pcts lol they dont give a flying fuck about pct,,they go from high doing gh to high dosing aas,,anything and everything they can get a hand on INBETWEEN REC DRUGS,,INBETWWEN PAIN KILLERS, IN BETWEEN GETTING ARESTED ,,IN BETWEN ABUSING AND BEATING UP GIRLFRIEND,, INBETWEEN DIVORCING 2 TIMES,,INBETWEEN MOVING JOBS AND USUALLY NOT WORKIN OR WORKING LIKE BOUNCER IN SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU PRACTICALLLY DONT WORK ,,INBETWEEN LIVING ON A FAT GIRL WHILE FUCKIN ON THE SIDE,,INBETWEEN GOING TO SCHOOL FOR 8 YEARS WITH OUT THE ABILITY TO COMPLETE IT DUE TO DRUG ADDICITONS,,INBETWEEN EXTREMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMME S

THE COMMON THING TO THE ONES WHO ADVANCE IS ONE WORD




E X T R E M E ,,

THEY DO NOT SIT ON BOARDS LIKE 90% OF YOU DISCUSSING THINGS,,AND THEY DEFENITELY DONT KNOW PCTS BALIONIE FROM SHIT ,,THEY DEFENITELY DONT PLAY AROUND WITH 1 KIT OF GH ONCE IN A BLUE MOON ,,AND THEY DEFENITELY NOT SITTING THERE AND TALKING FOR HOUR AND HOUR AND HOUR ON COMPUTER ,,THEY DO IT FOR COUPLE HOURS MAINLY DRUG RELATED ,,THEY DONT EXPLAIN ANYTHIGN TO ANYONE ,,THEY LIE THEIR WAY AROUND EVEN ONLINE,,THEY TALK VERY LITTLE AND MOVE VERY FAST ,,THEY ARE SHADY BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO GET PLACE IN BODYBUILDING ,,BECAUSE THEY ARE SELFISH MOTHER FUCKER THAT DONT CARE AND WONT CARE NOT ABOUT OTHERS AND NOT ABOUT THEMSELVE BECAUSE THEIR ABUSE UUALLY END UP IN KILLING THEM OR HURTING THEM BADLY HEALTH WISE WHITCH DOESNT CHANGE THE INTAKE OF DRUGS BECAUSE THEIR PERSONALITY WONT LET THEM QUIT THEY JUST WAIT FOR THE KIDNY AND THEN HOOOPLA ON EVEYRTHIGN AGAIN SAME DOSES AND 40 LB LIGHTER....

YOU GET THE IDEA HERE....

THE ONES WHO GET PLACES ARE IN MOST CASES DEALERS DUE TO THE HUGE DOSES YOU NED OF EVERYTHING,,THEY ARE EITHER DEALER REMAILER STRIPPER MALE ,,GAY FOR PAY ,,ESCORT,,OR SOME KIND OF LEGALIZED ACTIVITY INVOLVING SHADY ON THE LINE PRODUCTS ,,

now this is truth in your face as you call it,,

some wont like it,,some moderators on different board who read gh15 religiously will still continue blubing about how they thisand how they that,,

but in the hearts of everybody ,,IN THE HEART ,,they know that gh15 is right to the t ,,to the very last letter of the word gh15 writes ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Heavy_Hitter on December 29, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
 Well guys who don't go off the internet are not constantly reading posts about how Doggcrap, and Palumbo are saying if you take a gram of test you are a big fool, even pros don't take that much. They learn everything from experience and learn what works with their body. This is an obsessive cumpulsive sport, put someone with OCD and take off the "limiter" and you will have a guy who will abuse himself to get where he wants to get at all costs.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: LATS on December 29, 2010, 10:57:17 PM
actually the dumber you are the more you grow.. i should re phrase that.. the less you know the more you grow.. i owned a few gyms.. you had those that were literally walking dictionaries about bodybuilding.. they would fail to progress much.. then you had those who literally did not know the name of many movements let alone much about gear.. yet they progressed.. why?

 well , as stated earlier , they never over thought it much.. they just came in and lifted.. they did not try every routine that was printed each month.. they just did the movements that they liked and trained until they felt tired.. but they trained consistent.. never missed.. the "genius" group would sometimes disappear because they just could not decide what routine they wanted to follow lol.. it was just to complicated lol..

 the "dumb" group just knew to train hard and they would do the same routine over and over without fail and would never be bored.. and if they were bored they still did it or at the very least would do some crazy stuff just to be different.. but it was not thought out.. it just happened..

 i have a tendency to over think things.. many who read incessantly about muscle hypertrophy, gear ect want to absorb as much knowledge as possible.. it also interests us.. but it does have a tendency to complicate things and hamper progress for some.. just train.. eat.. take super supplements and be consistent..  but above all be safe..    
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: gh15 on December 29, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Well guys who don't go off the internet are not constantly reading posts about how Doggcrap, and Palumbo are saying if you take a gram of test you are a big fool, even pros don't take that much. They learn everything from experience and learn what works with their body. This is an obsessive cumpulsive sport, put someone with OCD and take off the "limiter" and you will have a guy who will abuse himself to get where he wants to get at all costs.

YES YES YES!!

when im tellin you that hrt level mean 1 gram of aas and 5-10 iu gh i really REALLY mean it,,this last maybe a month or 2,,then BOOM back to the bgi doses,,notice what im aying here 5-10 iu MAINTANANCE DOSES

if you ever been on legit gh at 10 iu,, you woudl understand that it allow the mutation to sleep,,it allow the mutant to relax a bit his system on ONLY 1 gram of aas while still growing muscle fiber ,,then 30-60 days later BOOM back in ,,

there is never offf,there is never pct,,there is never anything you hear online,,

pct lol  BOARDING MAKE UP BALONIE WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU WE DO PCT?? WHO?? WHO TOLD YOU WE EVER DO IT ,,WHERE DID IT COME FROM TO BEGIN WITH?? I DO NOT GET IT ,,WE NEVERE GET OFF DRUGS ,,MANY OF US ARE   ADDICTS OF RECS AND IT WRONG AND YOU KNOW GH15 IS AGAINST IT BUT MANY OF US ARE ADDICT OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE,,WE DO HAVE OCD AND BIG TIME OCD,,

THE PROBLEM IS THAT EVERY WANNA BE ONLINE THINK THAT COMING ONLINE AND TALK ABOUT PCT AND MODERATE DOSES AND GENETICS WILL MAKE YOU PROFESSSIONAL ,,THEN SCREAM THEY DONT HAVE GENETICS,,

ITS NOT THE GENETICS YOU DUMB WITES,,ITS THE EXTREME DRUG USE WE DO AND THE RESPOND OF OUR BODY TO THIS EXTREME USE AND ITS ABILITY TO HODL TOGETHER,,

gh15 approved

Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: gh15 on December 29, 2010, 11:02:50 PM
actually the dumber you are the more you grow.. i should re phrase that.. the less you know the more you grow.. i owned a few gyms.. you had those that were literally walking dictionaries about bodybuilding.. they would fail to progress much.. then you had those who literally did not know the name of many movements let alone much about gear.. yet they progressed.. why?

 well , as stated earlier , they never over thought it much.. they just came in and lifted.. they did not try every routine that was printed each month.. they just did the movements that they liked and trained until they felt tired.. but they trained consistent.. never missed.. the "genius" group would sometimes disappear because they just could not decide what routine they wanted to follow lol.. it was just to complicated lol..

 the "dumb" group just knew to train hard and they would do the same routine over and over without fail and would never be bored.. and if they were bored they still did it or at the very least would do some crazy stuff just to be different.. but it was not thought out.. it just happened..

 i have a tendency to over think things.. many who read incessantly about muscle hypertrophy, gear ect want to absorb as much knowledge as possible.. it also interests us.. but it does have a tendency to complicate things and hamper progress for some.. just train.. eat.. take super supplements and be consistent..  but above all be safe..    

MANY MANY MANY OF YOU FELAS OVER EAT,,I DONT TALK ABOTU IT MUCH BUT I WILL IN THE NEW YEARS,,many of you fellas over eat you eat too much even on gh you eat too much ,,but especially with out gh,,many of you just eat too much ,,you take anadrol and dont notice how you gain water and fat and smoothen up because you forgot the gh becsause you read online that gh is not that important when gh is EVERY THING IN BODYBUILDING,,etc etc many of you just eat too much and look bad becuse of that,,notice how you look the best in your local gymnasium if you dont over eat that day and dont use a lot of orals but more injectable and use hgh ,,notice how you look much better than the fella on anadrol test and all you can eat buffet,,


its somethign to talk abotu more in the new year and gh15 shall and will

gh15 approved
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: magicuser on December 30, 2010, 12:37:38 AM
+drugs
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: cephissus on December 30, 2010, 01:05:50 AM
Most of the time when people put a lot of effort in and research etc and still don't progress it's because either they arent doing drugs and have unrealistic expectations, or some factor that they really have little hope of discerning.  The body is very complex, and many many things can go wrong.  However, like Groink, Chaos, and others are always insisting, that doesn't mean weight training has to be complex.  If you're serious about your training and it still isn't working, chances are the fix is something you're just going to stumble upon randomly, or more likely... you're just going to fail.

A lot of people who are said to be genetically gifted or naturally blessed etc. just have all the pieces fall into place for them.  Then half the time they turn around and talk about "hard work."  ::)
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: pellius on December 30, 2010, 01:10:15 AM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM

I didn't read the thread yet but are you saying that  the good body builders are the dumb ones and the bad body builders are the smart ones? Which one do you consider yourself?
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: wes on December 30, 2010, 04:36:07 AM
actually the dumber you are the more you grow.. i should re phrase that.. the less you know the more you grow.. i owned a few gyms.. you had those that were literally walking dictionaries about bodybuilding.. they would fail to progress much.. then you had those who literally did not know the name of many movements let alone much about gear.. yet they progressed.. why?

 well , as stated earlier , they never over thought it much.. they just came in and lifted.. they did not try every routine that was printed each month.. they just did the movements that they liked and trained until they felt tired.. but they trained consistent.. never missed.. the "genius" group would sometimes disappear because they just could not decide what routine they wanted to follow lol.. it was just to complicated lol..

 the "dumb" group just knew to train hard and they would do the same routine over and over without fail and would never be bored.. and if they were bored they still did it or at the very least would do some crazy stuff just to be different.. but it was not thought out.. it just happened..

 i have a tendency to over think things.. many who read incessantly about muscle hypertrophy, gear ect want to absorb as much knowledge as possible.. it also interests us.. but it does have a tendency to complicate things and hamper progress for some.. just train.. eat.. take super supplements and be consistent..  but above all be safe..   
Good post, and very true in a lot of cases.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: dov on December 30, 2010, 04:41:00 AM
"million dollar arm but a five cent head"
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: CalvinH on December 30, 2010, 06:44:42 AM
Way to over-think it and be stupid at the same time....impressive


 ;D
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: flinstones1 on December 30, 2010, 08:30:10 AM
I didn't read the thread yet but are you saying that  the good body builders are the dumb ones and the bad body builders are the smart ones? Which one do you consider yourself?

to sum it up good bodybuilders dont fuck around. The ones who are too smart for ther own good and plan hypothetical cycles get nowhere while the idiot who buy 10 kits of gh before he knows what the word bodybuilding diet means, ends up a freak before you even made your order.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Nirvana on December 30, 2010, 08:34:37 AM
Fatpanda again being our example for "smart with no results"

he's not necesarily smart about BB. he's more of a poindexter.  he thinks he knows more than he does.
there's nothing wrong with knowing the science of bodybuilding.  but too many people only know the science and forget the brute.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: MB on December 30, 2010, 08:58:49 AM
I don't think it's an issue of smart vs. dumb, but the overthinker will never train with conviction.  Guys like Yates and Coleman, they believed wholeheartedly in their training approach and never waivered from it.  Being on board mentally is the most important aspect to training.  Only about 1% of the gym population (if that) are focused enough to train consistent year after year.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 30, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
"paralysis through analysis"

            VS

       "Just Do It"
Title: belief in your ability
Post by: dj181 on December 30, 2010, 09:58:03 AM
Uh-oh, me thinks dat God is gonna open a whole new can of worms, when he brings forth his decree of over-eating...
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: Parker on December 30, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
only simple people need to keep it simple. People like you.

its the smart ones that read studies that have taken bodybuilding to the mass levels it is at today.

you must be too dumb to realise that.

fuck it lets just throw every piece of science out the window, physics, chemisty, biology etc fuck it all, its totally useless  ::)

complete and utter imbeciles on this site.
Fatpanda, you are smart dude, but a arrogant and misguided one. There is a saying, "It's easy to make something complicated, but hard to make something simple"

take that to heart. You don't need to read a whole bunch of studies, what you need to do is cut back on what you are eating and hit the damn cardio harder...it's that damn simple.
 
Title: belief in your ability
Post by: dj181 on December 30, 2010, 10:14:49 AM
True dat parker! HARD AND CONSISTANT TRAINING is the key for da natural trainer.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
regardless of how hard it is to believe, this may be true. Most on getbig tend to overthink shit, and look like shit. Most guys who look good, dont spend time on bbing boards because they never had to :) I am currently on 500mg test and a actually gaining and thought i was gonna shrink up.say 95 percent of people who spend time on bbing boards lack confidence and the belief to look like they do. One thing that seems verycommon in this game. The guys who seem to not "care" and approach bbing as a hobby instead of their entire existance  are the ones who turn into freaks the fastest. Never underestimate the power of the mind.
;)
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
Four words...... KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Too many people rely on "studies" instead of commonsense and practical application. (see fatpanda)
;)
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: dr.chimps on December 30, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
Fatpanda, you are smart dude, but a arrogant and misguided one. There is a saying, "It's easy to make something complicated, but hard to make something simple"

take that to heart. You don't need to read a whole bunch of studies, what you need to do is cut back on what you are eating and hit the damn cardio harder...it's that damn simple.
 
Easier to read on-line studies and pontificate than it is to actually put forth some effort.  ;)
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 11:18:56 AM
actually the dumber you are the more you grow.. i should re phrase that.. the less you know the more you grow.. i owned a few gyms.. you had those that were literally walking dictionaries about bodybuilding.. they would fail to progress much.. then you had those who literally did not know the name of many movements let alone much about gear.. yet they progressed.. why?

 well , as stated earlier , they never over thought it much.. they just came in and lifted.. they did not try every routine that was printed each month.. they just did the movements that they liked and trained until they felt tired.. but they trained consistent.. never missed.. the "genius" group would sometimes disappear because they just could not decide what routine they wanted to follow lol.. it was just to complicated lol..

 the "dumb" group just knew to train hard and they would do the same routine over and over without fail and would never be bored.. and if they were bored they still did it or at the very least would do some crazy stuff just to be different.. but it was not thought out.. it just happened..

 i have a tendency to over think things.. many who read incessantly about muscle hypertrophy, gear ect want to absorb as much knowledge as possible.. it also interests us.. but it does have a tendency to complicate things and hamper progress for some.. just train.. eat.. take super supplements and be consistent..  but above all be safe..    
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 11:21:01 AM
I don't think it's an issue of smart vs. dumb, but the overthinker will never train with conviction.  Guys like Yates and Coleman, they believed wholeheartedly in their training approach and never waivered from it.  Being on board mentally is the most important aspect to training.  Only about 1% of the gym population (if that) are focused enough to train consistent year after year.
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Nirvana on December 30, 2010, 11:21:52 AM
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 11:23:19 AM
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: JP_RC on December 30, 2010, 11:25:25 AM
actually the dumber you are the more you grow.. i should re phrase that.. the less you know the more you grow.. i owned a few gyms.. you had those that were literally walking dictionaries about bodybuilding.. they would fail to progress much.. then you had those who literally did not know the name of many movements let alone much about gear.. yet they progressed.. why?

 well , as stated earlier , they never over thought it much.. they just came in and lifted.. they did not try every routine that was printed each month.. they just did the movements that they liked and trained until they felt tired.. but they trained consistent.. never missed.. the "genius" group would sometimes disappear because they just could not decide what routine they wanted to follow lol.. it was just to complicated lol..

 the "dumb" group just knew to train hard and they would do the same routine over and over without fail and would never be bored.. and if they were bored they still did it or at the very least would do some crazy stuff just to be different.. but it was not thought out.. it just happened..

 i have a tendency to over think things.. many who read incessantly about muscle hypertrophy, gear ect want to absorb as much knowledge as possible.. it also interests us.. but it does have a tendency to complicate things and hamper progress for some.. just train.. eat.. take super supplements and be consistent..  but above all be safe..    

Best serious post of the thread.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Master Blaster on December 30, 2010, 11:28:33 AM
 
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Meso_z on December 30, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
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Post by: Nirvana on December 30, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Master Blaster on December 30, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Nirvana on December 30, 2010, 02:29:14 PM
But much earlier, the night before Luke had gone to London for six months, before the band was named and when Gabe and Eric had been playing solo shows together, sharing a set, backing each other up; back before all this Luke came to Boston to talk about what they’d accomplish over the next few months, how to deal with Gabe, that he needed guidance and most of all an editor, someone to tell him when an idea didn’t work, to point out the line between good stupid and bad stupid. This meeting was conducted at the first bar, outside on the patio, smoking and drinking, nearly-naked college kids celebrating around them, and they slouched at a table right in the middle of the floor, speaking slowly and with long pauses. Business concluded, they made their way to the second bar, where Eric instigated an arm-wrestling competition with a hipster in a drum major shirt, a Boston hipster, a sorry imitation of the New York standard. They were drinking Mojo, a microbrew from Colorado famous for inducing blackouts and raising bad blood. Eric was smoking outside and just started talking to the hipster, asking him where he got his hair cut, really pestering him about it which okay was pretty obnoxious, suggesting salons and even specific stylists by name, the guy denying that he got his hair cut anywhere, like it just stays that length all the time, even the deliberately shaggy parts over his ears. But then Eric got distracted by this other guy, a friendly guy with a shaved head and a thick neck who was talking about the difference between a punch you see coming and a punch you don’t, how when you’re going to take a punch you shouldn’t tense your muscles, just let the blow bounce off you, your muscle and in Eric’s case fat absorbing the shock of the blow. Eric asked him to demonstrate, and the guy said no way am I going to hit you man, and Eric, with the love of the world, told him well obviously don’t really hit me, I’m a pussy that’s only ever been in one real fight. Pull the punch, Eric said, but hit me once in one arm and I’ll tense it up, hit me in the other and I’ll keep loose. So the guy hit him in the loose arm and yeah that really wasn’t that bad at all, then in the tense arm and Eric rubbed his arm and said yeah you were absolutely right man that hurts. Then he went back in the bar and was waiting for a drink, Luke talking to Sasha, the Montenegrin expatriate, Sasha saying that the reason he gets so many girls is because he knows which shoes to buy, denies up and down that it has anything to do with his accent because that would be an insult to his inborn ability to choose the right shoes and get girls. Eric got his drink and turned, taking a sip and wiping the bottom of the glass with a cocktail napkin, and there was hipster drum major guy again, with the bad attitude and the hair, puffing his chest which looked all the more ridiculous because of the brass buttons and epaulets on his shirt, and now the guy’s hackles were raised, like you could see him just standing there and bristling, and he asked Eric if he wanted to fight, and Eric said no but I would like to arm-wrestle. Eric has done this before, has challenged people to an arm-wrestling contest in bars, because it is a way of resolving conflict peacefully, because he will probably lose, but graciously, leaving his opponents zero options in terms of impressing people and getting girls. But he also wanted to win if he could, and he’d developed a strategy: do not try to force the opponent to the table, but merely hold him, wearing him down, relaxing the white muscle fibers that provide quick action, waiting until the guy is tired and then finishing him in one stroke. He did this with the hipster but let his arm drop to forty-five degrees and held the guy there, let the hipster think he’s winning, started making bored faces, yawning. The hipster was angry, wanted a rematch, so they went again, and this time Eric let his arm fall to ten degrees and just held it there, thirty-five degrees more insulting, and suddenly the hipster stood up and announced he’d won, which Eric at this point was drunk and belligerent enough to contest. When he stood up to tell the guy that he hadn’t won, to explain it all to everyone, he saw that the place was suddenly full of arm-wrestlers, people paired up and facing off across the narrow tables, guys with beers and one hand in their pockets, smiling, cheering, making jokes about placing bets. They left the bar, Luke and Eric, heading back to the apartment where Linda was probably asleep which meant they could smoke indoors. They got in a cab, Eric swaying across the seat as they turned corners, now extremely drunk, memory-loss drunk, almost never happens. He managed to tell the cabbie where to go and when they pulled up to the apartment he apparently paid the man, I mean the money disappeared, and then he got out of the car but he stumbled a little getting out, dropped some money on the ground, and when he picked up the money it was covered in blood. He looked at his hand, still standing in the middle of Cambridge Street, and the pinky finger on his guitar hand was bleeding, brown stains on his jeans. He couldn’t move the finger. How the fuck did that happen he thought as he followed Luke inside, Luke taking care of everything all of a sudden. (Alison was in Providence, waiting for her boyfriend to get home from his classes at Johnson-Wales, one of the premiere culinary academies in the nation, drinking a Miller High-Life and listening to music, increasingly annoyed.) They went in the back door and Eric leaned against the white frame, leaving a streak of blood, Linda suddenly awake in a bathrobe and asking them both what happened, but they were both far too drunk to explain anything, and in any case neither of them actually knew what had happened. Linda cleaned the wound while Eric stood at the kitchen sink, trying not to pass out. She wrapped the finger in gauze. The next day Eric woke up early even though he didn’t have to work, re-wrapped his hand and Gabe arrived, ready to play, and they got their outfits and got ready and played a show, Eric on the guitar with three fingers, white bandages hanging from his wrist.

Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: g101 on December 30, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
see friend i woudl like to explain somerthing for you ,,
the one who dont spend time on the boards online and dont do this things are indeed advancec but you know what? i will tell you why,,its becuse they are THE WORST ABUSERS OF HORMONES ON PLANET EARTH ! thats why,,

they dont sit and play with pcts lol they dont give a flying fuck about pct,,they go from high doing gh to high dosing aas,,anything and everything they can get a hand on INBETWEEN REC DRUGS,,INBETWWEN PAIN KILLERS, IN BETWEEN GETTING ARESTED ,,IN BETWEN ABUSING AND BEATING UP GIRLFRIEND,, INBETWEEN DIVORCING 2 TIMES,,INBETWEEN MOVING JOBS AND USUALLY NOT WORKIN OR WORKING LIKE BOUNCER IN SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU PRACTICALLLY DONT WORK ,,INBETWEEN LIVING ON A FAT GIRL WHILE FUCKIN ON THE SIDE,,INBETWEEN GOING TO SCHOOL FOR 8 YEARS WITH OUT THE ABILITY TO COMPLETE IT DUE TO DRUG ADDICITONS,,INBETWEEN EXTREMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMME S

THE COMMON THING TO THE ONES WHO ADVANCE IS ONE WORD




E X T R E M E ,,

THEY DO NOT SIT ON BOARDS LIKE 90% OF YOU DISCUSSING THINGS,,AND THEY DEFENITELY DONT KNOW PCTS BALIONIE FROM SHIT ,,THEY DEFENITELY DONT PLAY AROUND WITH 1 KIT OF GH ONCE IN A BLUE MOON ,,AND THEY DEFENITELY NOT SITTING THERE AND TALKING FOR HOUR AND HOUR AND HOUR ON COMPUTER ,,THEY DO IT FOR COUPLE HOURS MAINLY DRUG RELATED ,,THEY DONT EXPLAIN ANYTHIGN TO ANYONE ,,THEY LIE THEIR WAY AROUND EVEN ONLINE,,THEY TALK VERY LITTLE AND MOVE VERY FAST ,,THEY ARE SHADY BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO GET PLACE IN BODYBUILDING ,,BECAUSE THEY ARE SELFISH MOTHER FUCKER THAT DONT CARE AND WONT CARE NOT ABOUT OTHERS AND NOT ABOUT THEMSELVE BECAUSE THEIR ABUSE UUALLY END UP IN KILLING THEM OR HURTING THEM BADLY HEALTH WISE WHITCH DOESNT CHANGE THE INTAKE OF DRUGS BECAUSE THEIR PERSONALITY WONT LET THEM QUIT THEY JUST WAIT FOR THE KIDNY AND THEN HOOOPLA ON EVEYRTHIGN AGAIN SAME DOSES AND 40 LB LIGHTER....

YOU GET THE IDEA HERE....

THE ONES WHO GET PLACES ARE IN MOST CASES DEALERS DUE TO THE HUGE DOSES YOU NED OF EVERYTHING,,THEY ARE EITHER DEALER REMAILER STRIPPER MALE ,,GAY FOR PAY ,,ESCORT,,OR SOME KIND OF LEGALIZED ACTIVITY INVOLVING SHADY ON THE LINE PRODUCTS ,,

now this is truth in your face as you call it,,

some wont like it,,some moderators on different board who read gh15 religiously will still continue blubing about how they thisand how they that,,

but in the hearts of everybody ,,IN THE HEART ,,they know that gh15 is right to the t ,,to the very last letter of the word gh15 writes ,,

gh15 approved

THIS IS THE FUCKING TRUTH RIGHT HERE
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 30, 2010, 05:29:00 PM


complete and utter imbeciles on this site.

Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: chaos on December 30, 2010, 05:40:10 PM
You're not without your utterly imbecilicity yourself stud.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Master Blaster on December 30, 2010, 05:44:17 PM

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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Alexander D on December 30, 2010, 05:44:23 PM
..and why smart bodybuilders that tend to over-think and detach from their bodies tend to struggle.


BOOM

I agree with this to a certain extent... Look at Rocket Scientists like Kevin Levrone... compared to people like Vince G and FatPanda... lol

Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: tbombz on December 30, 2010, 05:48:57 PM
I agree with this to a certain extent... Look at Rocket Scientists like Kevin Levrone... compared to people like Vince G and FatPanda... lol
is levrone a dumbass? is vince g smart?


i shouldnt have used "dumb" and "smart". because that really isnt the distinction. it has to do with simple/complex. parker was the one to point that out i think. along with several others.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Alexander D on December 30, 2010, 05:57:58 PM
is levrone a dumbass? is vince g smart?


i shouldnt have used "dumb" and "smart". because that really isnt the distinction. it has to do with simple/complex. parker was the one to point that out i think. along with several others.

Well in my opinion, Levrone isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer... he just works out hard, but certainly doesnt have a scientific approach to what he does. That said, he'd probably grow regardless of what he does, because he has superman genetics.

Vince G, while not "smart" in the conventional sense, believes he is and studies he ass off on different supplements, training theories etc etc... because of all of this, he misses the boat.

Therefore, I think if Vince trained harder and stopped believing he was Einstein, he'd improve... and similarly, if Kevin could actually read (only kidding) and started reading all of these weird training protocols, it may actually impede his forward progress...

I do think overthinking can get in the way of muscle building.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: no one on December 30, 2010, 06:14:32 PM


complete and utter imbeciles on this site.

yes- and this mess is the self- proclaimed voice of reason.

ahahahahahahahahahahahah aha
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 30, 2010, 06:23:34 PM

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Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: LATS on December 30, 2010, 07:13:11 PM
consistency.. thats all... in training, eating and gear (if you go that route).. it does not matter if it is hit, volume, full body ect ect.. if you do it without fail and the poundage increases fairly regular ect ect you will progress.. throw good genes in there and you have progress..

above all do what you like.. if you like supersets and look forward to them then keep them no matter what you read.. if you like hit.. the same applies.. the reason being if you dread the best routine devised by man you will stop showing up.. skip workouts and mentally not be into it.. that equals no progress..
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: StuartR on December 30, 2010, 09:01:33 PM
Fatpanda, you are smart dude, but a arrogant and misguided one. There is a saying, "It's easy to make something complicated, but hard to make something simple"

To be fair, he's the one that's trying to follow this principle with the calorie is a calorie thing. If it is indeed true, it's a great job of taking something that most people make complicated and simplifying it.
Title: belief in your
Post by: dj181 on December 31, 2010, 02:01:30 AM
You are right about consistancy being damn important LATS, and besides consistancy, HARD WORK is of even greater importance, coz even if you are consistant NO improvement while occur unless one progressively improves. If one consistantly does the same exact thing, they will consistantly look exactly the same. And yeah, you are right doing a training style that you like or enjoy, BUT... Some training styles ARE much more effective than others ;D
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: First Blood on December 31, 2010, 06:24:57 AM
this is a very good thread and it's something I have been thinking about too!
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Ursus on December 31, 2010, 05:04:47 PM
I used to work out percentages. Try to improve by X amount of kg each week etc

Not I train hard 4x week lift until I am aching and muscles are tired, go home and eat then do it all again the following week. generally if I eat enough I will get more reps or at least the same amount of reps easier.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders gr
Post by: LATS on December 31, 2010, 05:05:38 PM
DJ181 100% AGREE..  some routines will be way more effective than others.. but what i was referring to was what a person is willing to do on a consistent basis.. if one gets the best routine that man can offer but hates it he mentally will not be into it or not do it at all.. but as you and i said as long as poundage increases on a fairly consistent basis any routine will "work" and give results as long as it is done consistently.. so yes, i agree 100% ;) being consistent without progression is useless..    
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 31, 2010, 06:48:50 PM
consistency with progression will allow slacking off in the diet as well.

fatshitpanda's putting in 30% effort and eating kitkats.  he looks like throw-up.
Title: Re: belief in your ability/taking control of your body. why dumb bodybuilders grow.
Post by: Fatpanda on December 31, 2010, 06:50:34 PM
consistency with progression will allow slacking off in the diet as well.

fatshitpanda's putting in 30% effort and eating kitkats.  he looks like throw-up.

and i've still lost a shit load of weight and maintained strength  :D

imagine how fucking amazing i would look if i ate baked potatoes and cut out the kitkats  :o  ::)