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Title: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 30, 2010, 12:49:04 PM
Now that hes done as Gov of Cali, one interesting question regarding BB  (his biggest fan base)  "why  the entire CBS coverage of 1980 Mr.O never aired?  why? did he really bought the footage?  Some say that Booing was so loud and intense with the outcome, that Weider decided that it woudnt help the image of BB" . However, with the tech of today he can easily change the audio from audinece and release a DVD with the most controversion contest in BB history !

Here's a pic from that obscure day in BB, that begs for caption "

Mike Mentzer- "Hey Danny boy wanna know the difference between an IFBB athlete and a Weider boy"?  come back next year"






WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 30, 2010, 12:51:43 PM

Here's a pic from that obscure day in BB, that begs for caption "
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360848.0;attach=395962;image)

Why does Mentzer always look like a serial killer in all candid pictures taken of him?  That or the guy from the lovely bones...

(http://www.latinoreview.com/images/stories/blu-dvd-screencaps/villains-lovely_bones.jpg)

"1"
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
Now that hes done as Gov of Cali, one interesting question regarding BB  (his biggest fan base)  "why  the entire CBS coverage of 1980 Mr.O never aired?  why? did he really bought the footage?  Some say that Booing was so loud and intense with the outcome, that Weider decided that it woudnt help the image of BB" . However, with the tech of today he can easily change the audio from audinece and release a DVD with the most controversion contest in BB history !


Here's a pic from that obscure day in BB, that begs for caption "


Mike Mentzer- "Hey Danny boy wanna know the difference between an IFBB athlete and a Weider boy"?  come back next year"






WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
there's a photo taken when they're having an argument and you can clearly see how Arnie was intimidated by Mike (the former seated with no eye contact, the latter stading and pointing finger at him). in a fight Mike would surely tear apart Arnold
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Jaime on December 30, 2010, 02:56:24 PM
there's a photo taken when they're having an argument and you can clearly see how Arnie was intimidated by Mike (the former seated with no eye contact, the latter stading and pointing finger at him). in a fight Mike would surely tear apart Arnold


Arnold is completely nonconfrontational. Mike would tear him to shreds, especially a coked up hobo Mike.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
here it is
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: GWAR on December 30, 2010, 02:58:20 PM
here it is
arnold is rolling his eyes and waving off the bottom twink with the swimmers build , "ZERO" intimidation taking place
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Wiggs on December 30, 2010, 02:59:54 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 03:01:24 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.
x2

Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 30, 2010, 03:02:08 PM
here it is
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: GWAR on December 30, 2010, 03:06:34 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.
arnold would put you on the train with all the other ges Schweine
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: GWAR on December 30, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)
at least waller is not a player hatin bitch
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)

u sure?
was he stronger than Mike?
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 30, 2010, 03:15:16 PM
u sure?
was he stronger than Mike?
No but a mean SOB.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 03:16:10 PM
that's for sure, Arnold was no Mike or Ken strength wise
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Reeves on December 30, 2010, 03:21:20 PM
u sure?
was he stronger than Mike?

I don't know if he was stronger than Mike.  Having seen Ken train, he was definitely very strong.  Above all that Ken was a great guy to talk with on the few occasions I had the opportunity to do so.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on December 30, 2010, 03:23:03 PM
Now that hes done as Gov of Cali, one interesting question regarding BB  (his biggest fan base)  "why  the entire CBS coverage of 1980 Mr.O never aired?  why? did he really bought the footage?  Some say that Booing was so loud and intense with the outcome, that Weider decided that it woudnt help the image of BB" . However, with the tech of today he can easily change the audio from audinece and release a DVD with the most controversion contest in BB history !

Here's a pic from that obscure day in BB, that begs for caption "

Mike Mentzer- "Hey Danny boy wanna know the difference between an IFBB athlete and a Weider boy"?  come back next year"






WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This pic is not from 80, it's from 78.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Parker on December 30, 2010, 03:27:34 PM
Why does Mentzer always look like a serial killer in all candid pictures taken of him?  That or the guy from the lovely bones...

(http://www.latinoreview.com/images/stories/blu-dvd-screencaps/villains-lovely_bones.jpg)

"1"
Well, he went crazy didn't he...proof positive that 'staches like that combined with those "Welcome Back, Kotter" glasses=crazy, deranged
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Dokey111 on December 30, 2010, 03:39:05 PM
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)

^ haha..  this
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Schmoff on December 30, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
1980 Mr. Olympia - 2 DVD Set
SPECIAL EDITION DVD DIGITALLY REMASTERED
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Pollux on December 30, 2010, 04:03:50 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.

Watch your mouth, colored boy!  >:(
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Saram on December 30, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.

Yeah, he did pose. It won him 7 Mr. Olympia titles and 5 Mr. Universe's.
Arnold needn't bother with physical violence to prove a point. That's true alpha.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Dipadidu on December 31, 2010, 04:00:43 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360848.0;attach=395962;image)
Milhouse looks huge!
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:sLgAhmXKMIHkdM::dow.4players.de/forum/community-sonstiges/fun-section/7860-pic-thread/index300.html&t=1&usg=AFrqEzefuypih5yzy1bjwX5VkpBCkAKlYw)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 31, 2010, 05:09:51 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360848.0;attach=395962;image)
Milhouse looks huge!
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:sLgAhmXKMIHkdM::dow.4players.de/forum/community-sonstiges/fun-section/7860-pic-thread/index300.html&t=1&usg=AFrqEzefuypih5yzy1bjwX5VkpBCkAKlYw)

wow you really are a comedian ::)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: caseyviator on December 31, 2010, 08:27:28 AM
yea that pic is not from he 80 mr o...the one with them all 3 on the lawn chairs
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Schmoe Buster on December 31, 2010, 09:13:26 AM
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)

X2
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Team Diver on December 31, 2010, 09:18:41 AM
Ken Waller seated on the floor would beat both of their asses. 8)

Also Franco, who is a former boxer and one of the strongest BBer pound for pound.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: oldman on December 31, 2010, 09:20:57 AM
Why does Mentzer always look like a serial killer in all candid pictures taken of him?  That or the guy from the lovely bones...

(http://www.latinoreview.com/images/stories/blu-dvd-screencaps/villains-lovely_bones.jpg)

"1"

this picture is from George Snyders home and was in the series 3 more reps, not the Olympia.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 31, 2010, 09:24:40 AM
here it is
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360848.0;attach=395979;image)
Their body language needs no translation, Mike is the fucking man looking Arnie right in his eyes, while Arnie fails to be cool about it with his legs crossed.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 31, 2010, 10:44:30 AM
that's exactly what i was saying, alpha all the way
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 31, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
Also Franco, who is a former boxer and one of the strongest BBer pound for pound.
Yes.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 31, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
Arnold is a puck ass bitch.  If he would have ever been challenged to a fight you would have seen how non Alpha he was...He's a fucking poser....a fucking poser.

Arnold said in his book that he liked to "hit people on top of their head"

Arnold was a badass and would have beat your black ass up and down the street
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: magicuser on December 31, 2010, 02:03:16 PM
1980 Mr. Olympia - 2 DVD Set
SPECIAL EDITION DVD DIGITALLY REMASTERED

woa where get this?
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: hench on December 31, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
Arnold said he got into a fair few fights mostly from people wanting to test him.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: magicuser on December 31, 2010, 02:18:58 PM
Arnold said in his book that he liked to "hit people on top of their head"

Arnold was a badass and would have beat your black ass up and down the street

darkies can't stand arnold kickin thier ass again and again

ye when whitey takes roid no one can beat him

Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 31, 2010, 02:28:36 PM
Arnold said he got into a fair few fights mostly from people wanting to test him.
He admitted that he was the troublemaker/seeker in a early stage of his career and felt bad after that
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: IronMagazine.com on December 31, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
I bet if anyone really would have tried to get physical with Arnold his buddy Franco would have jumped in and whooped their ass.

As far as Arnold being intimidated in that pic, highly unlikely, however Mentzer was a loose cannon, a bit crazy and Arnold was not a fighter.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DK II on January 01, 2011, 05:42:32 AM
Also Franco, who is a former boxer and one of the strongest BBer pound for pound.
(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/Franco-Columbu.jpg)
(http://www.hipertrofia.org/img/franco01.jpg)
(http://practicalpaleolithic.com/paleolithic-diet-blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/franco_columbu_032.jpg)
(http://buybulkwhey.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/franco11.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qWfhpO6oxJE/SfmAh6CkHuI/AAAAAAAACP8/hUfulByEm5Q/s400/columbu2.jpg)
(http://www.scottandrewbird.com/sttbimages/posts/081112_columbu.jpg)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Pollux on January 01, 2011, 05:52:21 AM
Their body language needs no translation, Mike is the fucking man looking Arnie right in his eyes, while Arnie fails to be cool about it with his legs crossed.


But your post needs translation. You see, Mikey is so easily amped up that Arnold knew he did his job - he got under his skin!

Nothing better than getting under someone's skin.  ;)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DK II on January 01, 2011, 06:02:19 AM
But your post needs translation. You see, Mikey is so easily amped up that Arnold knew he did his job - he got under his skin!

Nothing better than getting under someone's skin.  ;)

yup, i'd say the same.

Arnold wins.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Shockwave on January 01, 2011, 06:12:24 AM
But your post needs translation. You see, Mikey is so easily amped up that Arnold knew he did his job - he got under his skin!

Nothing better than getting under someone's skin.  ;)
This is truth.
Everyone is looking at it like Mentzer is someone out-willing Arnold, when its clear that Arnold did exactly what he wanted, got into Mikes head, and Mike is fooking loosing it, while Arnold is still cool and composed, like he always is.
If you watched Pumping Iron you know that is EXACTLY what Arnold tries to do on contest day.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 01, 2011, 06:20:15 AM
But your post needs translation. You see, Mikey is so easily amped up that Arnold knew he did his job - he got under his skin!

Nothing better than getting under someone's skin.  ;)
Yes, Mike's weakness was his hot-tempered personality while Arnold's strength was his superiority feeling. Still I give Mike credit because he was one of the few who challenged Arnold for a discussion (not sure if it was a HIT vs. volume debate or something personal). It's obvious Arnold was not used to this, so he tried (well, failed) to be cool about it. I'll bet Arnold was pretty pissed off after this. Arnold's weak point is that he can't handle critique (there are numerous examples in his life of this) by not going into a debate but do some silly mind owning instead, so yes, IMO Mike is still the fucking man in this case.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Pollux on January 01, 2011, 06:53:44 AM
Arnold's weak point is that he can't handle critique (there are numerous examples in his life of this) by not going into a debate but do some silly mind owning instead, so yes, IMO Mike is still the fucking man in this case.

If anything, Arnold welcomes critique! It's like adding fuel to the fire which gave him the drive to prove others wrong.

And you said it yourself, Arnold did "mind owning" which made him the winner, if you will. So how Mike is the fucking man makes no sense.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 01, 2011, 07:26:20 AM
If anything, Arnold welcomes critique! It's like adding fuel to the fire which gave him the drive to prove others wrong.
His only 'proof' was his success on stage and as a businessman. The foundation of this was his strong willpower and self-assurance, not(!) by great genetics or good arguments. He only welcomed critique if it was in his(!) advantage, like the feedback from his financier Joe Weider ("don't bite your feeder").
This book, for example is full of critical anecdotes about him, and guess what? He sued Wendy Leigh for this trying to prevent it's publication.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51T0d7V6qXL._SS500_.jpg)

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And you said it yourself, Arnold did "mind owning" which made him the winner, if you will. So how Mike is the fucking man makes no sense.
Hold on, I think you and me have other values on this, which is fine. I have more respect for someone with good debating skills (Mike was not allways tactical, but he came with arguments), than someone with good mind owning skills
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: Pollux on January 01, 2011, 08:33:23 AM
His only 'proof' was his success on stage and as a businessman. The foundation of this was his strong willpower and self-assurance, not(!) by great genetics

Sorry, but you don't get the IFBB Gold Order proclaiming you to be the greatest bodybuilder of the 20th century without great genetics.  ;)
Title: Re: A question for Arnold
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 01, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
Sorry, but you don't get the IFBB Gold Order proclaiming you to be the greatest bodybuilder of the 20th century without great genetics.  ;)
As a GB vet you know that his genetics are heavily disputed. His BB success is based on hard work, lots of drugs (thanks to his financial success) and his charisma, but not by 'great genetics' like Serge Nubret or Robby Robinson.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: L00n on January 01, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
This pic is not from 80, it's from 78.

pwned
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: hench on January 01, 2011, 03:41:21 PM
was it in his book or somewhere else that he said he suceeded in winding Mentzer up and that he wasn't about to have a fight with him as his mind was on winning a contest so that would have just been stupid.
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Royalty on January 01, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
According to Rick Wayne, The author of Muscle Wars, Arnold pissed off Mike Mentzer backstage at the 1980 Olympia with these words: "Mike, the only thing bigger than your belly is your mouth" (or something like that)

Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on January 02, 2011, 12:19:08 AM
problem with mentzer in 1980, is that he actually believed he had a chance

the guy was great, but not good enough
Title: Re: A question for Arnold re 1980 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Pollux on January 02, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
According to Rick Wayne, The author of Muscle Wars, Arnold pissed off Mike Mentzer backstage at the 1980 Olympia with these words: "Mike, the only thing bigger than your belly is your mouth" (or something like that)



I got that book and it's pretty good.