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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on January 01, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
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looks like he was predisposed to having exceptional quads
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looks like he was predisposed to having one quad be much bigger than the other
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Big ole farm boy.
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Looks like you can tell from the beginning who has what it takes to become pro 8)
Almost every pro has looked amazing for their age as teens... Most outstanding in history of course is Lee Priest as far as "superior teen look" is concerned..
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but jay looks like shit
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Jay started training when he was 18.
So from 18 to 20 he had made that progress.
Obviously used steroids.
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looks like he was predisposed to having exceptional quads
He looks small
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nobody wants to look like the fridge except the IFBB judges
his physique is an abomination of everything bodybuilding is supposed to be
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Looks like you can tell from the beginning who has what it takes to become pro 8)
Almost every pro has looked amazing for their age as teens... Most outstanding in history of course is Lee Priest as far as "superior teen look" is concerned..
You cant take Lees teen look seriously, he was on cadaver GH @ 8, trenbolona masterona, testosterona, equipona dianobolona bologna and cockinassalona his since 12, liar priest and americano whores shitting on chest while doing 5 injects gh ed generation nothingness GH15 approved.
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I dunno how old Lee is here... it's said he was 16... Kicks Jays ass all around... :o
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If you don't look like that after few years in gym, you should fuckin' start to play chess ;D
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The fridge!
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You cant take Lees teen look seriously, he was on cadaver GH @ 8, trenbolona masterona, testosterona, equipona dianobolona bologna and cockinassalona his since 12, liar priest and americano whores shitting on chest while doing 5 injects gh ed generation nothingness GH15 approved.
Oh I forgot!
Maybe Lee got his first terstosterona and gh-ona as a christmas present from parents :D
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Lee = Cadaver.
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cool footage of Jay and Branch head to head at teenage nationals
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looks like he was predisposed to having exceptional quads
Whoever says Jay has "average" genetics, is a fool
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LOL....WTF happened to Branch's face...He was a good looking kid. Now he looks like Gollum.
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jay should style his hair like he did when he was a teen.
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Jay is a millionaire though so can't hate on him for his physique.
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Jay started training when he was 18.
So from 18 to 20 he had made that progress.
Obviously used steroids.
friends,,i keep tellin you over and over and OVER,,nothing to do with steroids per say ,,the fella there,,the youngster there is on TONS OF GH!!!! loooooooooooook atttttttttttttttt hisssssssssssssss skinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnn,,,look at the color this is ONLY made by hgh ,,and to add some insults on lies from cult members who wil tell you other wize,,,jasons gh was not from china...which means ,,all together now...S E R O S T I M gh at high dose! ,,ONLY LATER ON HE MOVED TO CHINEASE GH,,its all same if legit ,,but back in the day IT WASNT ALL THE SAME,,
this physiqe for th e1000 time,,is mainly build on gh mutating factor,,only then AAS COME IN ,,and if you really know your bodybuilding you can also see that from the get go his left leg was bigger than the right and his left side of the body bigger than the right,,so no it has nothing to do with the drug abuse,,the drug abuse only got him bigger than what he was at 20 which was already huge due to already severe abuse of gh like most fellas who go professional,,
GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH GH
THEN ALL THE REST IN HIGH DOSE AND CONSISTANT USAGE
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where the fuck did jay get the gear at such a young age? Fucked up life...
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,,the fella there,,the youngster there is on TONS OF GH!!!! loooooooooooook atttttttttttttttt hisssssssssssssss skinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnn,,,look at the color this is ONLY made by hgh ,,
The kid is 18yo you dumbfuck... on tons of GH... ::) you're an obsessed idiot. I hope you get exposed pretty soon.
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Does anyone have a pic from the 2 weeks Jay trained as a natural?
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looks like he was predisposed to having one quad be much bigger than the other
That, and a wide waist...
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The kid is 18yo you dumbfuck... on tons of GH... ::) you're an obsessed idiot. I hope you get exposed pretty soon.
what ever age this kid is in the picture,,he is on serostim gh at 8-10 iu ,,thats a hell lot of gh for this particular time,,it has nothing to do with age retard it has to do with development ,,because a year before the kid... was a tiny tit average frat boy look all american shit face cake with 16-17 inch arms ...now that was when he was only on steroid! after that in that one year or 1.5 year he went on gh and you can see the respond and the results in this picture,,it was gh and aas combined,,and in 1 year like it would do on any one at those dosage and in this age,,it will get you to top national competitot level ,,from then on its the way you dial in to a show and your over all ability to keep yourself balanced and within standar to become a professional
im never wrong,, thats why im feared ,,thats why im god
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(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/c/4cdd9_ORIG-jay_cutler_1993.jpg)
looks like he was predisposed to having exceptional quads
nice shite stained thong...
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LOL....WTF happened to Branch's face...He was a good looking kid. Now he looks like Gollum.
More like Yoda, lol!
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Does anyone have a pic from the 2 weeks Jay trained as a natural?
there are picture of him natural ,,his rib cage was very big,,big frame boy but very average genetic,,he was nothing like what became of him on hormones and nothign like what became of him after sever abuse of those hormones,,his arms thouh always sucked and always will,,eventhogh he tried to put seo in them and pulled it for sometime,,but then again like any other person with average genetic it cant work in the long run and you start seeing it post shows etc,, many pictures around ,,he had seo in arms,,still has,,but rely on it less ow day since he himself know it dont pull on him right due to average arm genetic respond
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what ever age this kid is in the picture,,he is on serostim gh at 8-10 iu ,,thats a hell lot of gh for this particular time,,it has nothing to do with age retard it has to do with development ,,because a year before the kid... was a tiny tit average frat boy look all american shit face cake with 16-17 inch arms ...now that was when he was only on steroid! after that in that one year or 1.5 year he went on gh and you can see the respond and the results in this picture,,it was gh and aas combined,,and in 1 year like it would do on any one at those dosage and in this age,,it will get you to top natural competitot level ,,from then on its the way you dial in to a show and your over all ability to keep yourself balanced and within standar to become a professional
im never wrong,, thats why im feared ,,thats why im god
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You're mentally challenged
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The kid is 18yo you dumbfuck... on tons of GH... ::) you're an obsessed idiot. I hope you get exposed pretty soon.
Supposedly a couple took Jay under their wing when he was very young. Built a gym and their house just for him and moved him in. Allegedly bought all his food/hormones etc. He's been juiced to the gills from a young age(Allegedly ;)).
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where the fuck did jay get the gear at such a young age? Fucked up life...
Yep, really fucked up. 250+ lbs with abs, millionaire, hot wife, nice house, cars etc...
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Looks like shit then too, what a surprise.
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soft as a flacid cock
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one thing that always boggles my mind..guys who live the bbing lifestyle like a pro yet dont take the risks drug wise. I mean how can you put so much time and effort into something when the end result is so minimal? You see this all the time. afraid to even eat at a restaurant with their gf, yet they are 200 pounds and look like shit because they are afraid to run more than a gram of shit or touch gh. Jay wanted to be a pro from the beginning and he did what he had to get there.
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Jay is 37. He will be 38 later this year. There is no way Jay was loaded on GH during the summer of 1991. Maybe he was during the summer of 1996 when he was prepping for the Nationals. But not 1991. In 1991 he was watching "Saved by the Bell" (where he got the idea to eventually steal Zack Morris' haircut).
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for me is the same as long as i can give back this fucked up old body
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This goes back to what I've always said - bodybuilding success is all about genetics. Training, diet, drugs all play their part of course (you have to have them all), but if you don't have the genetic factor in there then it'll all be for nothing.
However, it could be argued that as the best built man on the planet, Jay is actually genetically inferior to the average man because of his body's inability to suppress myostatin. So what we are actualy celebrating in a Mr Olympia is his genetic inferiority. Damn, I wish I was so genetically inferior. :-\
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This goes back to what I've always said - bodybuilding success is all about genetics. Training, diet, drugs all play their part of course (you have to have them all), but if you don't have the genetic factor in there then it'll all be for nothing.
However, it could be argued that as the best built man on the planet, Jay is actually genetically inferior to the average man because of his body's inability to suppress myostatin. So what we are actualy celebrating in a Mr Olympia is his genetic inferiority. Damn, I wish I was so genetically inferior. :-\
uh, who says that?
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This goes back to what I've always said - bodybuilding success is all about genetics. Training, diet, drugs all play their part of course (you have to have them all), but if you don't have the genetic factor in there then it'll all be for nothing.
However, it could be argued that as the best built man on the planet, Jay is actually genetically inferior to the average man because of his body's inability to suppress myostatin. So what we are actualy celebrating in a Mr Olympia is his genetic inferiority. Damn, I wish I was so genetically inferior. :-\
i took genetics in college. What is the Genetic advantage of myostatin inhibition vs laking the gene that codes for myostatin inhibitory protein (or enzymes)?
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uh, who says that?
It's just an alternative argument that I'm proposing. The human body is predisposed to suppressing myostatin as there is no biological advantage in producing excessive musculature. Hence, if someone's body cannot suppress myostatin efficiently then technically they are handicapped, although it doesn't necessarily mean there is any disadvantages.
i took genetics in college. What is the Genetic advantage of myostatin inhibition vs laking the gene that codes for myostatin inhibitory protein (or enzymes)?
Dude, I'm not trying to be a smartass, but you know I cannot possibly answer that question - I, unlike yourself, did not do genetics in college so maybe you could answer that question and enlighten me?
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Jay started very very young HGH from what I know, he started GH way before AAS. So yes in that pictures. he is on GH. As "flinstones1" said, Jay knew what he wanted very young.
Genetic is nothing in bodybuilding nowadays.
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let me guess he was on GH in this pic too ? ::)
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Jay started very very young HGH from what I know, he started GH way before AAS. So yes in that pictures. he is on GH. As "flinstones1" said, Jay knew what I wanted very young.
Genetic is nothing in bodybuilding nowadays.
Why on earth would someone go on GH before ever touching steroids? GH on its own doesn't do shit. And besides, what 16-18 year old kid has the money to afford at least 5iu per day on a consistent basis?
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Jay started very very young HGH from what I know, he started GH way before AAS. So yes in that pictures. he is on GH. As "flinstones1" said, Jay knew what I wanted very young.
Genetic is nothing in bodybuilding nowadays.
if Jay was on big doses of GH since he was 18, why isn't he 6'9"? At 18 he would still be young enough to have the GH stimulate bone growth... subsequently lengthening his femurs and vertebral column.
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if Jay was on big doses of GH since he was 18, why i'snt he 6'9"? At 18 he would still be young enough to have the GH stimulate bone growth... subsequently lengthening his femurs and vertebral column.
eh it depends... some people finish growing (height wise) by their late teens... not to mention low doses of gh can be given and not cause outragous changes in height. im not agreeing or disagreeing about what age he started using GH, because id have no way of knowing... but he did hook up with Chris Aceto when he was really young, so he would have access to any drug he wanted at that age.
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let me guess he was on GH in this pic too ? ::)
nope ,,and thats why he is the size of hsi girlfriend :) remember this girlfriend issssssssssssssss you got that right the same wife you see around him now,,see how tiny she is next to him now,,why? he abused hormones from teenage years,,and she too went on hormones but for diff reason ...she did it inorder to get in shape and lose some weight while getting more tone like many girls in fitness,,but she i snot subject here
look closely at the picture,,this kid is looking very similar to what tbomz lookin right before went on hormone or just after first cycle,,this the REAL JASON CUTLER,,remember friends i would be suied to pieces if i said lies and put his name in the bad light if it wasnt true,,reason i can not be sued is becuase they know moment they bring it to court they are going to prison for long time,,you cant sue the food feeder,, you get it i hope by now,,if not then you got problem
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if Jay was on big doses of GH since he was 18, why isn't he 6'9"? At 18 he would still be young enough to have the GH stimulate bone growth... subsequently lengthening his femurs and vertebral column.
wrong,,you give gh for height problem at ages 8-14 ,,and it cgot to be consistant ,,on a regular basis and def not done with mega dosing of steroid like liar priest did at that age,, jason was not on hgh before at those ages,,and he had no problem with height,,
take a look at the bone though in the later teen years,,it grow in thickness and size,,his hands were always average and always will be ,,they look thicker on gh but he is just small hand fella
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Why on earth would someone go on GH before ever touching steroids? GH on its own doesn't do shit. And besides, what 16-18 year old kid has the money to afford at least 5iu per day on a consistent basis?
gh on its own does a lot!,,the thign is that the mutation will only happen if STEROIDS BLOW UP THE NEW MUSCLE FIBER GH CREATES ON FRAME,,i keep saying it again and again and again ,,you fail to read it ,,go read bible,,G H IS A MUST FOR ORDER TO BE BODYBUILDER,,YOU CAN NOT BE A BODYBUILDER WORTH OF ANYTHING WITH OUT IT ,,YOU WILL LOOK LIKE SHIT WITH MAYBE GOOD HSAPED ARMS AND QUADS BUT YOU WONT HAVE THE 3 DIMENTIONAL LARGE SIZE THAT GH GIVE AND THE COMBO GH TREN EQ AND TEST GIVE ,,
dumb bodybuilder hire guro inorder for the guru to tell them they need to do hgh foro 3 months and then blow up the fiber with aas,,thats why they pay money for basically and for drug contact,,, this is how sad bodybuilding became
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From what I know, it's not Aceto that gave him hormone. But let me tell you something, there is a reason why Jay is with Kerry.
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im surprised how come you fellas dont see that kerry and jason look almost same size in that picture you posting here,,look at this picture,,you got a frat boy look all american chubb chubb with mucle mass resembling his girlfriend,,now he is a guy he had more,,but over all very similar looking humans,,and he is a guy! and became mr o ! she is a girl and not fat one there and not big one ,,
use your brains friends,,use your brains,,this fella would not even make top 10 with out hormones in any state show in americana
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From what I know, it's not Aceto that gave him hormone. But let me tell you something, there is a reason why Jay is with Kerry.
yes this reason call love,,but yes like you say when you have nurse,,,,you have lots of contatcs for everything,,from growth to aas and inbetween plus you have care of a nurse and you know docs,,never the less he get his shit from china liek everyone else ,,he get some american,,soe europian ,,and some china ,,its mix of all
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yes this reason call love,,but yes like you say when you have nurse,,,,you have lots of contatcs for everything,,from growth to aas and inbetween plus you have care of a nurse and you know docs,,never the less he get his shit from china liek everyone else ,,he get some american,,soe europian ,,and some china ,,its mix of all
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They got Gh from China because the price ? Cause Humatrope is way to much ?
Ty
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they get nto got,,they get gh from china because now day china make some gh that is as good as american gh and only different is the travel it make to get to americana ,,thats the ONLY different with some good china gh,,
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ok thank you.
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Gh15 are you purposely misspelling words? It seems that you are. I know Russians and Dominicans straight off the boat. They know how to spell America. None of them say "Americana"
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yup Kerry is a Nurse Practitioner and can write prescriptions for whatever Jay’s little heart desires lol
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yup Kerry is a Nurse Practitioner and can write prescriptions for whatever Jay’s little heart desires lol
not without a DEA code!
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yup Kerry is a Nurse Practitioner and can write prescriptions for whatever Jay’s little heart desires lol
Simply not true.
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Simply not true.
you are right. Only a doctor with a offially registered DEA number can perscribe drugs.
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let me guess he was on GH in this pic too ? ::)
I thought that dumbass gh15 would say he was on gh in that pic at a early age, just look at those huge meaty hands and fingers and that jaw :o
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let me guess he was on GH in this pic too ? ::)
Sausage fingers check, humungous head check, midget check...I couldn't possibly speculate. :D
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All PED & PEDO
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I thought that dumbass gh15 would say he was on gh in that pic at a early age, just look at those huge meaty hands and fingers and that jaw :o
his hands are not huge ,,they were nto huge and meaty then ,,his hands were alway average in size,,and thicker due to gh usage later on ,,you really cant tell if he used anabolic steroids in this picture because he is covered ,,nothing about him is huge in picture,,he look like a regular american chunky frat boy ,,and i can assure you that he may hav estarted juicing by then already which is showing you that it take some time my friend
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nope ,,and thats why he is the size of hsi girlfriend :)
remember friends i would be suied to pieces if i said lies and put his name in the bad light if it wasnt true,,reason i can not be sued is becuase they know moment they bring it to court they are going to prison for long time,,
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??? dumb logic. You hv to make your facts are correct, that way you won't get sued BUT, even if it not they wouldn't sue you because they'd go to prison for a long time ???
Why exactly would they go to prison?
PS, reading alot of your post, you're definately not a pro.
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??? dumb logic. You hv to make your facts are correct, that way you won't get sued BUT, even if it not they wouldn't sue you because they'd go to prison for a long time ???
Why exactly would they go to prison?
PS, reading alot of your post, you're definately not a pro.
the reason they will go to prison isfor using controlled substances in mega doses on soil where its prohibited ,,and in most cases distributing becaue many did ,,but this is for another ime and place
you dont get bodybuilding large with out knowing the in and outs of the drug world ,,and know them well,,
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the reason they will go to prison isfor using controlled substances in mega doses on soil where its prohibited ,,and in most cases distributing becaue many did ,,but this is for another ime and place
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WTF are you talking about ??? Sooo, by your logic, if someone broke into Jays house, robbed him, he couldn't press charges because of "using controlled substance in mega doses on soil where its prohibited ,,and in most cases distributing because many did.." in fear of himself going to prison ::)
Are you from Sweden?
U r an idiot, entertaining, but and idiot.
Is it illegal if you have scripts for it? which Jay more than likely does. And I doubt he was/is a distributor
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he doent have script for it ,,only for specific things,,he does not have script for the doe and products use,,as gh15 always say ,,the reason you kods dont get problems with your individual use EVER,,is because fellas like jason cutler,,first place they go is into his place,,did they? no they did not,,why? in americnaa MONEY TALKS,,in americnaa is you have money you are safe,,but then again they didnt go into places of many others of us ,,why? the one who wanna spoil party look for the big drug movers,,which sit usually OUTSIDE americano land,,on americano land they only look for suppliers ,,and also usually skip the mini ones,,jason is USER,,user of a lot of products ,,but still user,,thats why safe,,but there is paper trails built up along the years,,can easily add one plus one if you are smart,, if someone wanted him in he would be served time,,not probation but TIME,,why ? because he live in shithole of a place,,remember bodybuilder = biggest pussy in the world and that is all of us im talkin here,,see the murderer,,see jason cutler and his no show in sweden ,,etc etc,, bodybuilder is only good with talk ,,the end,,
in reality the pandora box named gh15 should never be open because this pandora box is deep and long,,you can make whatever you want out of it ,,but one thing you can be sure it is million percent truth!
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let me guess he was on GH in this pic too ? ::)
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Even then his hands were like bear paws! They're about 3x the size of Kerry's. Oh yeah, gh15 you're a nutsack, Give it a rest. WE GET IT you htink everyone is on everything all the time. STFU
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You cant take Lees teen look seriously, he was on cadaver GH @ 8, trenbolona masterona, testosterona, equipona dianobolona bologna and cockinassalona his since 12, liar priest and americano whores shitting on chest while doing 5 injects gh ed generation nothingness GH15 approved.
Can we give the GH15 impersonations a fucking rest already
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nuckles are nevr that prominent on fellas with big truly large hands,,the nuckles on his hands are very prominent,,he had chunky chubb american frat boy looking hands of fella at the 15+% range like i keep tellin you here over and over,,this hands are not big ,,they never were,,nowww they are thick and twisted to some degree but also they are still not huge by any means since he started with small hands comparing to many fellas,,coparing to 125lb female his hand may look thick in that picture but you can be asure that when you see the nucles that well and can feel them that well ,,you are not belonging into the big hand type of fellas,,gh abuse durign the years helped his hands get larger and thicker,,but again 191 gh is diff than cadavar and he willl never have the murant hands liar priest has ,,
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You cant take Lees teen look seriously, he was on cadaver GH @ 8, trenbolona masterona, testosterona, equipona dianobolona bologna and cockinassalona his since 12, liar priest and americano whores shitting on chest while doing 5 injects gh ed generation nothingness GH15 approved.
Lee was on very high doses of that everyday for years
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and by the way just so you understand here,,even in this early picture,,since im gh15,,i can tell you that from the face and hand look i can already sense overly oil distribution that has nothing to do with age,,it look like he was already on the drugs anapolon and or dianabol ,,thi salso look like testosterona inject,,but from first look i would go with anadrol usage and or dianabol usage at this picture,,again he has clothes on so i cant completely give you detailed analasys but this is the exact look of fella on anadrol that start responding to it
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and by the way just so you understand here,,even in this early picture,,since im gh15,,i can tell you that from the face and hand look i can already sense overly oil distribution that has nothing to do with age,,it look like he was already on the drugs anapolon and or dianabol ,,thi salso look like testosterona inject,,but from first look i would go with anadrol usage and or dianabol usage at this picture,,again he has clothes on so i cant completely give you detailed analasys but this is the exact look of fella on anadrol that start responding to it
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Now I know you're trollin.
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no im very serious,,very! this face is moon face that is usually coming of anadrol usage,,not saying big doses of anything,,i cant see his physiqe,,but rest assure ,,a bodybuilder NEVER STOP AT ANYTHING,,not even at this age he is in picture,,ofocurse he is tiny tit there,,but you never mistake oral face when see it ,,and this is anadrol moon face in the making,,
i am never wrong when it comes to this because i direct 1000s of individual a month to take those
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U r correct on the moonface. u not a complete idiot afterall ;)
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He must have delivered a shitload of newspapers on his route to afford all of that GH as a teen.
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you are right. Only a doctor with a offially registered DEA number can perscribe drugs.
You are a dipshit... Nurse Practitioners have DEA numbers, as do Physician Assistants... both prescribe drugs all the time.
And while I was being sarcastic about "prescribing Jay whatever his heart desires" im sure she writes scripts for a lot of his "meds"...
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Simply not true.
For you and your boy Royalty...
http://66.219.50.180/Practice+Policy+and+Legislation/Regulation/DEARegulation/Applying+for+DEA+Number.htm
There is a BIG difference between a regular NURSE and a Nurse Practitoner... read a little.
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you are right. Only a doctor with a offially registered DEA number can perscribe drugs.
Congrats- you are a moron.
Aside from Allopathic (MD) and Osteopathic physicians (DO)- The following in the United States can prescribe drugs-
Nurse Practitioners (NP)
Physician Assistants (PA-C)
Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists (CRNA)
Dentists (Both DDS and DMD)
Optometrist (OD) - although somewhat limited in duration for things like narcotics... i think in Texas they can only give a week supply of pain meds for example...
Veterinarians- but only for "animal" use...
I'm sure there is more, but its late and this is what i came up with off the top of my head.
So, you are 100% wrong... you DONT have to be a medical doctor to prescribe drugs, jackass.
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gh on its own does a lot!,,the thign is that the mutation will only happen if STEROIDS BLOW UP THE NEW MUSCLE FIBER GH CREATES ON FRAME,,i keep saying it again and again and again ,,you fail to read it ,,go read bible,,G H IS A MUST FOR ORDER TO BE BODYBUILDER,,YOU CAN NOT BE A BODYBUILDER WORTH OF ANYTHING WITH OUT IT ,,YOU WILL LOOK LIKE SHIT WITH MAYBE GOOD HSAPED ARMS AND QUADS BUT YOU WONT HAVE THE 3 DIMENTIONAL LARGE SIZE THAT GH GIVE AND THE COMBO GH TREN EQ AND TEST GIVE ,,
dumb bodybuilder hire guro inorder for the guru to tell them they need to do hgh foro 3 months and then blow up the fiber with aas,,thats why they pay money for basically and for drug contact,,, this is how sad bodybuilding became
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yet more BS from the king of BS. Arnold and his contenporaries seemed to do pretty well without GH.
GH on its own doesnt do shit. with exercise it helps, and with steroids it works miracles.
but Arnie et al seem to blow your theory out of the water- i.e. that you cant be a bodybuilder without GH.
also, you contradict yourself..in one sentence you state that GH does alot, then you go on to say that without steroids to grow the new muscle formed by GH then you wont grow.
its clear to most that GH creates new fibres, and new muscle...its not a mutation as you call it.
and its clear that without resistance exercise it doesnt do jack, and without loads of test it also is mildly effective.
but its clear that WITH steroids, and loads of them, GH and steroids as a combo works well.
but you sir, dont seem to be able to grasp this concept- despite being told 1000 times.
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yet more BS from the king of BS. Arnold and his contenporaries seemed to do pretty well without GH.
GH on its own doesnt do shit. with exercise it helps, and with steroids it works miracles.
but Arnie et al seem to blow your theory out of the water- i.e. that you cant be a bodybuilder without GH.
also, you contradict yourself..in one sentence you state that GH does alot, then you go on to say that without steroids to grow the new muscle formed by GH then you wont grow.
its clear to most that GH creates new fibres, and new muscle...its not a mutation as you call it.
and its clear that without resistance exercise it doesnt do jack, and without loads of test it also is mildly effective.
but its clear that WITH steroids, and loads of them, GH and steroids as a combo works well.
but you sir, dont seem to be able to grasp this concept- despite being told 1000 times.
my pupils will put you in your plae most likley but read the shit you say once again and you ay exactly what i say ,,you just forget little parts i keep saying over and over,,its easy to forget when trying to make arguments eh?
i kept saying natural gh is important arnold had high ,,look at the age talked about!! he then also expriementd with cadavr from ussr,,but in the 60s 70s you were good bodybuilder ONLY if your natural gh was at the high levels and they were all early 20s they started juicing at teens! they end career at 27 lol do you get it ? i keep aying it for years ,,you just dont listen ,,go re read bible
then i never said mutation only happen as rsult of gh,,i said MUTATION CAN NOT HAPPEN WITH OUT GH,,OFCOURSE YOU NEED STEROIDS TO BLOW IT UP DUH???? i hope younot that dumb and has the ability to get concept after i been saying it for years..
you actually say exactly what i say only try to make it sound i didnt say it ,,this is weird my friend lol very weird lol
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he was big as a kid, had the right genes, etc
now, obviously he was on aas, and lets speculate he could get the aas/gh on script back then, and not pay for it
but, how did he know at that young age what to take, when to take, etc? did he have a "trainer", someone telling a 16/17 yr old what aas by the gramload to take, and recommending hgh at that age? someone teaching him how and what to inject where, and when? often wondered bout this, seeing pics of a young arnold, priest, lusokov, etc
thats quite mind-boggling
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the best learn by themelve,,bill gates did and so did i and so did jason ,,we dont read boarding back then ,,we had our body as experiement thats what i try to explain to you fellas,, the best bodybuilder is the ones who hold longest and body can take abuse longest ,,the best ones are the ones who dont party much the good boys the ones who dont go narcotics and jason didnt go narcotics,,the best ones are the ones who have no help on the way up,,all the help came later from monchkies,,new word pupiles ,,,,m u n c h k i n s
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how did you find out about hgh? how did you find out about aas, what to take, where to get?
these are things that are not general knowledge, so someone in the know has to share the info.
its not like you "just know"
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how did you find out about hgh? how did you find out about aas, what to take, where to get?
these are things that are not general knowledge, so someone in the know has to share the info.
its not like you "just know"
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how did you find out about hgh? how did you find out about aas, what to take, where to get?
these are things that are not general knowledge, so someone in the know has to share the info.
its not like you "just know"
Back in 1996 I learned all about gear through people I trained with. I never tried the gear, but they were doing it, and they told me all about it. They were trying to get me to do it and "join the darkside" but I didn't do it.
I'd imagine that's how most people started before the internet. Met someone who showed them the ropes.
That's how it was befre the internet. You ACTUALLY met people face to face talked about things. Crazy shit huh?
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Back in 1996 I learned all about gear through people I trained with. I never tried the gear, but they were doing it, and they told me all about it. They were trying to get me to do it and "join the darkside" but I didn't do it.
I'd imagine that's how most people started before the internet. Met someone who showed them the ropes.
That's how it was befre the internet. You ACTUALLY met people face to face talked about things. Crazy shit huh?
Exactly, any young ambitious aspiring bodybuilder in the pre internet days would most likely seek out a bodybuilder and ask how to get started etc
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back in those days ,,you had dealers come with big bag to gym sport bag and inside all the drugs,,every one new the dealer got in because he was big 245 lb 8% 5'11 fella,,he also treied to sell you stuff for crazy prices,,but most of us learned from mistakes,,we learned from dealign with fakes,,dealing with legit,,dealing for years over years with diff people in the cult,,and most importantly from seeing results out of specific product and brands and cooks...
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Exactly, any young ambitious aspiring bodybuilder in the pre internet days would most likely seek out a bodybuilder and ask how to get started etc
Actually if "big guys" at the gym see a teen who is serious about training and they can see it, there is no time and those guys are advising and selling stuff to this kid.
It might be just seeking for new customers but it's good to see young serious kids are taken under the wing from early on..
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Lee was on very high doses of that everyday for years
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I know 3 kids by name... one is 14, other is 17, and one is 19...
all on a ton of gear for their age (over a gram) and 4 iu of gh..
where they got the money for it? beats the shit outta me... especially that they're poor.
i know the 17 year old is "sponsored" by a drug dealer. gives him whatever shit he needs as long as he pushes his products on to other kids and rip them off for 3-4 times the price.
the 17 year old has been on and off since he was 14 and is now a top competitor around here and in arab countries.
don't know why Jay being 19 and on a ton of shit seems so far fetched.
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I know 3 kids by name... one is 14, other is 17, and one is 19...
all on a ton of gear for their age (over a gram) and 4 iu of gh..
where they got the money for it? beats the shit outta me... especially that they're poor.
i know the 17 year old is "sponsored" by a drug dealer. gives him whatever shit he needs as long as he pushes his products on to other kids and rip them off for 3-4 times the price.
the 17 year old has been on and off since he was 14 and is now a top competitor around here and in arab countries.
don't know why Jay being 19 and on a ton of shit seems so far fetched.
this.
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Haha, I wonder if Jay and/or Kerry have been secretly reading all this stuff while we've been speculating?
I can see them now sitting in front of the computer saying, "yeah, that's true, no, that's wrong, god that gh15's a dick..."
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Haha, I wonder if Jay and/or Kerry have been secretly reading all this stuff while we've been speculating?
I can see them now sitting in front of the computer saying, "yeah, that's true, no, that's wrong, god that gh15's a dick..."
yes, they are
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Living the dream.
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if im not mistaken jay doesnt like the shape thats necessary to get into to win these shows either. he rather be much lighter i think he said.
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Jay is a millionaire though so can't hate on him for his physique.
I fail to see the logic in this.
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Living the dream.
Ain't it little depressing that Lee was bigger and leaner at fkin' 18 than any guy here will ever get :-\
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Ain't it little depressing that Lee was bigger and leaner at fkin' 18 than any guy here will ever get :-\
No, because he's a midget.
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Back in 1996 I learned all about gear through people I trained with. I never tried the gear, but they were doing it, and they told me all about it. They were trying to get me to do it and "join the darkside" but I didn't do it.
I'd imagine that's how most people started before the internet. Met someone who showed them the ropes.
That's how it was befre the internet. You ACTUALLY met people face to face talked about things. Crazy shit huh?
lol ;D
yes, I was around pre-internet too..
you guys are missing my point, he started using as young as 15/16 maybe, and its hectic that some guy or group of people take it upon themselves to reccommend prescription hormones to a young teen, as well as admistration protocol
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I know 3 kids by name... one is 14, other is 17, and one is 19...
all on a ton of gear for their age (over a gram) and 4 iu of gh..
where they got the money for it? beats the shit outta me... especially that they're poor.
i know the 17 year old is "sponsored" by a drug dealer. gives him whatever shit he needs as long as he pushes his products on to other kids and rip them off for 3-4 times the price.
the 17 year old has been on and off since he was 14 and is now a top competitor around here and in arab countries.
don't know why Jay being 19 and on a ton of shit seems so far fetched.
14! wow, I had no idea shit like this was common place
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looks like lee has always been fond of the pink color...
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14! wow, I had no idea shit like this was common place
it is.......shit when i was in 10th grade and started looking like something, i remember the local bodybuilder guy who was 5 years older than me approached me about taking gear
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only people i would rather look like are dorian and ronnie.nobody else seems to be able to get the job done.
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14! wow, I had no idea shit like this was common place
WOW. Most of the gyms around here you have to be 18 to join and some will let you join a little younger if you go with a parent. Must be common place at the YMCA.
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The Coach started at 14 or 15 if I remember correctly. :D
A friend of mine did his first cycle in Lebanon at 15. Bought testosterone at the pharmacy then went to the local hospital to get injected by a nurse. He said the nurse said, "you know this stuff isn't good for you". But she injected him all the same. :D My friend said he went with an older competitive bodybuilder who did a 10ml glute shot of testosterone (2500mg) - the nurse complained her fingers were cramping up doing the injection. :D
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The Coach started at 14 or 15 if I remember correctly. :D
A friend of mine did his first cycle in Lebanon at 15. Bought testosterone at the pharmacy then went to the local hospital to get injected by a nurse. He said the nurse said, "you know this stuff isn't good for you". But she injected him all the same. :D My friend said he went with an older competitive bodybuilder who did a 10ml glute shot of testosterone (2500mg) - the nurse complained her fingers were cramping up doing the injection. :D
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Guess dude wants to get it done all at once.
Pinning yourself ED must fooking suck.
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McFadden was 240 relatively lean pounds back in the 1920's at a height of 5'10. But I guess according to GH15 he was grinding bulls' testicles in alcohol to get the testosterone out and inject it since it is impossible according to him for a 5'10 guy to weight 240 lean pounds.
You know, you guys would be amazed by what can be accomplished drug-free if you train hard and properly. The two key words here are "hard" and "properly". Taking sets to failure or past them in compound movements, preferably with free weights to stimulate even more muscle mass that is required to balance the weight is a must, and so is clinical form 99% of the time. Since only a very small fraction of trainers do that, then most trainers can't grow. The giant failure of almost anyone at gaining mass is due to the fact that gaining mass drug free is hard work. Really, really hard work, and you can never miss workouts. Because so few are willing to pay the price by doing heavy free barbell squats and deads to failure, few can grow.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You're mentally challenged
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McFadden was 240 relatively lean pounds back in the 1920's at a height of 5'10. But I guess according to GH15 he was grinding bulls' testicles in alcohol to get the testosterone out and inject it since it is impossible according to him for a 5'10 guy to weight 240 lean pounds.
You know, you guys would be amazed by what can be accomplished drug-free if you train hard and properly. The two key words here are "hard" and "properly". Taking sets to failure or past them in compound movements, preferably with free weights to stimulate even more muscle mass that is required to balance the weight is a must, and so is clinical form 99% of the time. Since only a very small fraction of trainers do that, then most trainers can't grow. The giant failure of almost anyone at gaining mass is due to the fact that gaining mass drug free is hard work. Really, really hard work, and you can never miss workouts. Because so few are willing to pay the price by doing heavy free barbell squats and deads to failure, few can grow.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I told you .
Liar McFadden biggest liar in industry.
Cadavar GH came from needle into skull of dead man and inject self 4 times day.
Americano whores and trenbolona at high doses with testosterona americano whore.
No GH no bodybuillding.
Mcfadden lie to all you kids big part of generation nothingness in 1920's
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McFadden was 240 relatively lean pounds back in the 1920's at a height of 5'10. But I guess according to GH15 he was grinding bulls' testicles in alcohol to get the testosterone out and inject it since it is impossible according to him for a 5'10 guy to weight 240 lean pounds.
You know, you guys would be amazed by what can be accomplished drug-free if you train hard and properly. The two key words here are "hard" and "properly". Taking sets to failure or past them in compound movements, preferably with free weights to stimulate even more muscle mass that is required to balance the weight is a must, and so is clinical form 99% of the time. Since only a very small fraction of trainers do that, then most trainers can't grow. The giant failure of almost anyone at gaining mass is due to the fact that gaining mass drug free is hard work. Really, really hard work, and you can never miss workouts. Because so few are willing to pay the price by doing heavy free barbell squats and deads to failure, few can grow.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Bernarr McFadden, the nutbar who fasted, and liked walking 20 miles a day!? Guy probably weighed a buck fifty, if that.
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Can we give the GH15 impersonations a fucking rest already
That is because "Shockwave" is a stupid person. Just look at how this retard worships GH15 and sucks on his dick and parrots everything he says even though a toddler could say more intelligible and coherent things and him parroting the way GH15 writes tells me that Shockwave is an easily impressed follower with no personality. A leader, he is not. He was my bitch at the Truce Thread parroting all my arguments, and now he is GH15's bitch parroting everything he says here. It is so sad.
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You guys need to understand that gear in some parts of the world are dirty cheap and just easy to get. Here in Brazil back then I could get 100% legit stanon 250 (Organons Durateston) for like 2 USD, easily. My first experience with them was just one or two months after I turned 16, tree amps of deca durabolin. And good god, what a difference did it make, everyone in school were commentanting (always denied). Then, when I turned 17 I did my first real cycle. I remember all my family was planning a trip to Ibiza and I just approached my dad and said: look, I am not in the mood for going to Spain again, how about you give me the money you would spend with my air tickets and hotel and I will figure out some other thing to do with the cash. The rest is history. ;D
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You know, you guys would be amazed by what can be accomplished drug-free if you train hard and properly. The two key words here are "hard" and "properly". Taking sets to failure or past them in compound movements, preferably with free weights to stimulate even more muscle mass that is required to balance the weight is a must, and so is clinical form 99% of the time. Since only a very small fraction of trainers do that, then most trainers can't grow. The giant failure of almost anyone at gaining mass is due to the fact that gaining mass drug free is hard work. Really, really hard work, and you can never miss workouts. Because so few are willing to pay the price by doing heavy free barbell squats and deads to failure, few can grow.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
What the fuck do you know about free weight compound movement training? You're the one who thinks doing deads without straps will snap your tendons. And no one on this forum can hold 600lbs for 5 seconds without straps. ::)
You probably never set foot in a gym.
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What the fuck do you know about free weight compound movement training? You're the one who thinks doing deads without straps will snap your tendons. And no one on this forum can hold 600lbs for 5 seconds without straps.
You probably never set foot in a gym.
Post a video of you holding a bar loaded with 600 lbs without straps for at least five seconds and prove me wrong. :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post a video of you holding a bar loaded with 600 lbs without straps for at least five seconds and prove me wrong. :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I think if you read his post, he says 'no one on this forum can hold 600lbs for 5 seconds without straps.' That infers him, as well.
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the amount of shit i was on at 17-18 was astounding ;D
jay was loaded just like the rest...
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the amount of shit i was on at 17-18 was astounding ;D
jay was loaded just like the rest...
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Examples of your teenage protocol or you're lying.
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Examples of your teenage protocol or you're lying.
it was ever evolving.....i was ON from 17-21 years old...
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it was ever evolving.....i was ON from 17-21 years old...
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Come on man, give an example or a 12 week period...I'd just like to know. I was on starting at 19 but pussy doses...400 mg of primo and 400mg of deca....for 8 weeks....what a bitch...That was my first cycle...I grew though.
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Come on man, give an example or a 12 week period...I'd just like to know. I was on starting at 19 but pussy doses...400 mg of primo and 400mg of deca....for 8 weeks....what a bitch...That was my first cycle...I grew though.
The way you talk about all the gear you have ran i would think you would be a lot more swolled up than you are....do you have any pictures where you look impressive?
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The way you talk about all the gear you have ran i would think you would be a lot more swolled up than you are....do you have any pictures where you look impressive?
LOL. Things just got real. ;D
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The way you talk about all the gear you have ran i would think you would be a lot more swolled up than you are....do you have any pictures where you look impressive?
I never ran alot of gear...Like I've said many times before, prior to the cycle I'm doing now, the most I ran was 750mg of test, 400mg of EQ, 4iu of gh....
I like talking about gear it's effects and everything else...And no, I don't have any pics worth showing...You will have pics when I'm where I want to be for this cycle. That will be a while though.
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Come on man, give an example or a 12 week period...I'd just like to know. I was on starting at 19 but pussy doses...400 mg of primo and 400mg of deca....for 8 weeks....what a bitch...That was my first cycle...I grew though.
always ran test...non stop....1000iu of HCG a day every 4 weeks, for 1 week straight... usually with EQ...i always hated deca..
when i graduated HS i was running around 800-1000mg of test, 600mg eq, and 400mg tren a....with 5 iu of growth...
always cycled tren 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off...
as i got older...the cycles got much, much heavier...
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I think if you read his post, he says 'no one on this forum can hold 600lbs for 5 seconds without straps.' That infers him, as well.
He was being sarcastic.
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always ran test...non stop....1000iu of HCG a day every 4 weeks, for 1 week straight... usually with EQ...i always hated deca..
when i graduated HS i was running around 800-1000mg of test, 600mg eq, and 400mg tren a....with 5 iu of growth...
always cycled tren 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off...
as i got older...the cycles got much, much heavier...
bench
Holy fuck!
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Holy fuck!
its not so bad.....take orals out of the equation, and its actually enjoyable..
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its not so bad.....take orals out of the equation, and its actually enjoyable..
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Yeah it that you were a teenager at the time...I couldn't fathom that knowing my mindset at the time.
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Yeah it that you were a teenager at the time...I couldn't fathom that knowing my mindset at the time.
not to bad......it only fucks with you hard, if you are already fucked up...
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always ran test...non stop....1000iu of HCG a day every 4 weeks, for 1 week straight... usually with EQ...i always hated deca..
when i graduated HS i was running around 800-1000mg of test, 600mg eq, and 400mg tren a....with 5 iu of growth...
always cycled tren 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off...
as i got older...the cycles got much, much heavier...
bench
you wanted a fella who dont lie about dosages ,,there you have it ,,this is right there the dosages many many competitors in npc use,,the difference is today they go on 10-15 iu of hgh ,,even back then if had th emoney they did ,,that seperate the top from the mid and buttom ,, i keep tellin you that ,,notice the cycle this fella put here,,thats what it takes inaddition to all you can eat gh buffet,,do you see him mentioning anadrolies and diananabolis ? no ,,why? because the basisc after you know your bodybuilding,,the basics are what he wrote there ,,the orals are just a finishing touch :) they come into play wheh body fat is real low and or to fill out when you are preping
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Bench what where your stats when you were running that much and did you place well on the National scene?