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hahaha ;D ;D good o'l americanos and their diets ;D
9 of 10 people say they are eating healthy why almost 7/10 are either overweight/obses hillarious ;D
"By Karen Rowan, MyHealthNewsDaily Managing Editor
posted: 04 January 2011 10:04 am ET
Despite surging obesity numbers in the U.S., a new survey finds that just one out of 10 Americans say their diet is unhealthy.
The survey, conducted by Consumer Reports, also found that while four in 10 admitted being "somewhat overweight," just 11 percent said they were very overweight or obese — a direct contradiction of previous weight measurements taken by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which show that 68 percent of Americans are overweight or obese.
"There does seem to be a disconnect" between reality and the answers most of us give when asked questions about our diet, how much exercise we get and our weight, said Molly Kimball, a registered dietitian at Ochshner's Elmwood Fitness Center in New Orleans.
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Not as healthy as we think
Part of the disconnect, Kimball said, comes from the way foods are marketed to us.
"So many people think that what they're eating is healthy — diet frozen dinners, fat-free ice cream, 100-calorie pretzel packs. Or they say, 'I never eat fast food,' but that doesn’t mean they're not eating a lot of other unhealthy things," she said.
In her practice, Kimball said, people tell her all the time that they don't understand why they're not losing weight, because they believe they're eating healthy foods.
For a reality check, people should check the ingredients in their food, she said.
"Skip the front of the package, and turn it over," Kimball told MyHealthNewsDaily. Some granola bars have rolled oats as their first ingredient, others list sugar, she said.
According to the survey, 60 percent said they eat the recommended five or more servings of fruit and vegetables every day or most days.
'If that's true, that's spectacular," said Deborah Enos, a certified nutritionist in Seattle. "But if you look at more studies, that's not what we're seeing."
Part of the problem, Enos said, is that "we really don't have an idea of what a portion looks like. We tend to under-portion the good stuff, and over-portion the bad stuff." In reality, a portion is the size of your fist, she said.
And the survey found that the most commonly eaten vegetable was lettuce or salad greens — 78 percent of respondents said they eat a serving a week.
"We take iceberg lettuce, with 600 calories of blue cheese dressing, and call it a salad," Enos said. But such "vegetables" don't provide us with healthy nutrients.
Some people also think they’re getting a serving of fruit or vegetables when they're not, Kimball said.
"People may think that fruit drinks or gummy snacks may be counted sometimes," she said. "And we feel noble when we eat something like that, like what we’re doing is healthy."
Got a sweet truth?
Half of survey respondents said they limit their daily intake of sugar.
"Sugar is the No. 1 health challenge we're fighting in this country," Enos said. "People have no idea what's an appropriate amount."
Part of the problem, she said, is that the sugar content of food is given in grams, and most people don't have a sense of the size of a gram.
And because sugar is the only element of food for which there's no "daily recommended" amount given on the back of food labels, most people don't know how much is too much, she said. Women should limit their intake to 40 grams a day, and men to 50 or 60, she said.
Kimball said that "limiting" your intake doesn't necessarily mean you're eating a healthy amount.
"If you have it less than you want it — even if you want it a lot — then you're limiting your intake." Such self-imposed limits can lead us to feel we're being healthier than we really are, she said.
And people get a lot of sugar from foods that they don't consider to be sweets, Kimball said. Breakfast cereals are common culprits.
"Or take yogurt – a carton of low-fat yogurt can have 33 grams of sugar," she said. "That might jack up the sugar intake, but in their minds, that's not 'sweets.'"
A nation of exercisers
Most survey respondents reported they get an hour of moderate exercise every day, and 31 percent rated themselves as "very active."
In general, it's harder to be dishonest with ourselves about how much time we spend exercising than it is to fudge on our eating habits, Kimball said. "But perception of exercise intensity can be fudged."
"A stroll may feel like moderate exercise," to some, she said.
Enos said that she would estimate the true number of people who get an hour of moderate exercise every day to be closer to 5 percent. "People really overestimate their physical output," she said.
The weight-loss commandment, Enos said, should be "Thou shall not kid thyself."
"People aren't malicious – they're not trying to lie," she said. "But as a country, because our potions are so out of control, we just kind of blow it."
The report was based on the results of a nationally representative sample of 1,234 U.S. residents age 21 and older, and was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation.
Pass it on: A recent survey found that most of us think our diets are healthy. Nutritionists say this shows we have hard time figuring out what's really healthy. "
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I guess obesity is the new healthy...
Seriously though, these people are overweight because they overeat and have a sedentary lifestyle not because the foods they eat are unhealthy.
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in before bezurkfury goes Bezerk lol!
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Fat Kunts
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i swear to god, i don't see this rampant obesity. i realize i live in a metropolis, where physical appearance is important, and i do see fatties here and there, but nowhere near 2 out of 3.
is it on the outskirts? hick towns? blacks? OH...blacks...yeah they're fucking fat.
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Swede, do us a favor and post those pics of you looking like a pudgy oompa loompa again. Talk about bodyfat issues. :-X
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i swear to god, i don't see this rampant obesity. i realize i live in a metropolis, where physical appearance is important, and i do see fatties here and there, but nowhere near 2 out of 3.
is it on the outskirts? hick towns? blacks? OH...blacks...yeah they're fucking fat.
Same here I live near NYC and I don't see it....but definitely in other areas.I go to Myrtle Beach at least once a year and there are a lot more fatties.
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i swear to god, i don't see this rampant obesity. i realize i live in a metropolis, where physical appearance is important, and i do see fatties here and there, but nowhere near 2 out of 3.
is it on the outskirts? hick towns? blacks? OH...blacks...yeah they're fucking fat.
its mostly in the south.
here in texas probably 80% of people are fat (including 50% of little kids)
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I love how they try to blame it on marketing. Yeah that's the reason ::)
Surveys like this are notoriously biased towards the positive side of things. In reality I bet a lot of those people know their diet sucks and are just too conceited to admit it.
As an American I know a lot of people who think they are "too busy" to eat healthy when in reality they are just lazy and/or have poor time management skills.
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Same here I live near NYC and I don't see it....but definitely in other areas.I go to Myrtle Beach at least once a year and there are a lot more fatties.
CT's the third skinniest state in the country and after DC it had the second lowest percentage increase in obese individuals from 1990-2010.
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Swede, do us a favor and post those pics of you looking like a pudgy oompa loompa again. Talk about bodyfat issues. :-X
Swede just pissed he doesn't reach the height requirement to visit the US.
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Same here I live near NYC and I don't see it....but definitely in other areas.I go to Myrtle Beach at least once a year and there are a lot more fatties.
Thank goodness for you, so you can get laid..... ;D
And Swede, you do realize that the vast majority of Americans on this site don't fall into that category, right? So should we assume all males from Sweden are 4'11" too? ::)
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Same here I live near NYC and I don't see it....but definitely in other areas.I go to Myrtle Beach at least once a year and there are a lot more fatties.
I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but I think it's concentrated in the deep south and midwest. I think the NE and western part of the country are much thinner.
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Same here I live near NYC and I don't see it....but definitely in other areas.I go to Myrtle Beach at least once a year and there are a lot more fatties.
last time i was in vacation was in Turks & Caicos, and the ONLY people that were fat were the 2 American couples. Also, it was kind of embarassing, they were huge dicks and loud as fuck. Like, even though it was all you can drink & eat, they'd gorge on it, like they've never seen food or alcohol before.
its mostly in the south.
here in texas probably 80% of people are fat (including 50% of little kids)
could be, i was only in south padre in 2000, so very limited exposure to Tejas.
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El Paso was full of fat people
lots of Mexicans too
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I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but I think it's concentrated in the deep south and midwest. I think the NE and western part of the country are much thinner.
Here's some numbers.
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I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but I think it's concentrated in the deep south and midwest. I think the NE and western part of the country are much thinner.
Well I know you like putting and pulling things outta your ass ;D
....but I agree with you.
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I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but I think it's concentrated in the deep south and midwest. I think the NE and western part of the country are much thinner.
Alabama, Miss, La, etc... still have the highest obesity rate.....deep south with all that fried/good food is by far the worst. I think west is the least.
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Here's some numbers.
United States of Obesity, LOL...fuck.
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United States of Obesity, LOL...fuck.
Mississippi kicking ass and takin' names !!!! But I do hope people realize that most NFL players and damn near ALL IFBB pro's would be considered obese, using the shit standards set forth....
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Well I know you like putting and pulling things outta your ass ;D
....but I agree with you.
;D Mass and CT looking slim and trim!
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;D Mass and CT looking slim and trim!
With the food they had in Mass, no wonder.... ;D
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Mississippi kicking ass and takin' names !!!! But I do hope people realize that most NFL players and damn near ALL IFBB pro's would be considered obese, using the shit standards set forth....
The numbers there come from samples that don't include professional athletes and bodybuilders. The BMI of the average NFL player (5'11", 215 lbs) is right at 30.0 but that's buoyed by the offensive linemen who are all obese by the (flawed) > 30.0 definition.
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The numbers there come from samples that don't include professional athletes and bodybuilders. The BMI of the average NFL player (5'11", 215 lbs) is right at 30.0 but that's buoyed by the offensive linemen who are all obese by the (flawed) > 30.0 definition.
BMI = shit
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BMI = shit
Yes that is why I put in the (flawed) part genius.
It's shit for people with high muscle mass obviously but for the general unfit population it's not a bad simple metric for health.
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BMI = shit
so ure saying that americans in general are just more muscular, rather than fat, in general compared to other countries? ;D
must be all the hormones we ingest with our dairy and meat products..
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Yes that is why I put in the (flawed) part genius.
It's shit for people with high muscle mass obviously but for the general unfit population it's not a bad simple metric for health.
Nah, still shit....genius.
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;D ;D
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Nah, still shit....genius.
So what are you arguing exactly then? America does not actually have an obesity problem?
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So what are you arguing exactly then? America does not actually have an obesity problem?
No, it clearly does, but the BMI is a shitty gauge of anything. That is my argument.
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the numbers are even more ridiculous than whats printed...in south and west texas the truth appears as follows:
80% of all people are overweight
75% of adults over 30 are overweight/obese
50% of kids are overweight
hispanic women over 30: 98% are Fat
its no wonder the article says they dont consider themselves fat...its because here they are just NORMAL
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the numbers are even more ridiculous than whats printed...in south and west texas the truth appears as follows:
80% of all people are overweight
75% of adults over 30 are overweight/obese
50% of kids are overweight
hispanic women over 30: 98% are Fat
its no wonder the article says they dont consider themselves fat...its because here they are just NORMAL
Bingo. When people only look around and see other fat people, they think "I'm not that bad" Couple that with Oprah telling them they need a positive body image even if they are 100lbs overweight and you get massive delusion.
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No, it clearly does, but the BMI is a shitty gauge of anything. That is my argument.
So then the logic is:
(1) America has an obesity problem
(2) BMI, a method developed as a proxy for indexing body fat, indicates that America has an obesity problem
(3) Therefore BMI is a shitty gauge of obesity ???
I don't think you actually know anything about BMI.
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So then the logic is:
(1) America has an obesity problem
(2) BMI, a method developed as a proxy for indexing body fat, indicates that America has an obesity problem
(3) Therefore BMI is a shitty gauge of obesity ???
I don't think you actually know anything about BMI.
I'm sure that after the better part of a decade in the fitness industry, I might know just a little. My point is that the BMI is a shotty, misleading indicator of obesity and being overweight. That has nothing to do with the US having an obesity problem.
Example someone who is 6ft tall and 190 is considered "overweight." ::) And you mention it only being accurate for those who don't work out vs fitness people.....well where do you draw the line? Completely sedentary people? People who work out 2, 4, 6 times a week? Etc....
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I guess obesity is the new healthy...
Seriously though, these people are overweight because they overeat and have a sedentary lifestyle not because the foods they eat are unhealthy.
Well onlyme claims to be healthy and he is just about the msot obese fat ugly person i know. I guess it is easy to be in denial.
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Well onlyme claims to be healthy and he is just about the msot obese fat ugly person i know. I guess it is easy to be in denial.
Remind me not to have my BMI measured.
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Remind me not to have my BMI measured.
BMI is partially a measure of beauty. Why do you think fat people are always ugly which would make onlyme one of the ugliest people in the world.
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I'm sure that after the better part of a decade in the fitness industry, I might know just a little. My point is that the BMI is a shotty, misleading indicator of obesity and being overweight. That has nothing to do with the US having an obesity problem.
Example someone who is 6ft tall and 190 is considered "overweight." ::) And you mention it only being accurate for those who don't work out vs fitness people.....well where do you draw the line? Completely sedentary people? People who work out 2, 4, 6 times a week? Etc....
As I suspected you know nothing about BMI. The metric was specifically developed for predicting body fat percentage as a function of body size in populations (i.e. large groups of people), not in individuals. The original validation paper on it in the '70s in fact cautions against using it to assess individuals. It is not at all a "shotty, misleading indicator" when it is used appropriately, as it is in the data I posted. Criticizing the hammer when you need a screwdriver is not the fault of the hammer. The only reason it has a bad rap is because of people in the "fitness industry" like you who use it inappropriately.
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As I suspected you know nothing about BMI. The metric was specifically developed for predicting body fat percentage as a function of body size in populations (i.e. large groups of people), not in individuals. The original validation paper on it in the '70s in fact cautions against using it to assess individuals. It is not at all a "shotty, misleading indicator" when it is used appropriately, as it is in the data I posted. Criticizing the hammer when you need a screwdriver is not the fault of the hammer.
Like i said, garbage. Using it to just make blanket statements about a sample size is plain misleading. Furthermore, it's trumpeted by people in the medical industry as some type of indicator for the individual. Do you work in the medical field?
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Like i said, garbage. Using it to just make blanket statements about a sample size is plain misleading. Furthermore, it's trumpeted by people in the medical industry as some type of indicator for the individual. Do you work in the medical field?
You are far too close-minded, I'm not interested in discussing this any further.
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i swear to god, i don't see this rampant obesity. i realize i live in a metropolis, where physical appearance is important, and i do see fatties here and there, but nowhere near 2 out of 3.
is it on the outskirts? hick towns? blacks? OH...blacks...yeah they're fucking fat.
Texas
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You are far too close-minded, I'm not interested in discussing this any further.
So you are in the medical field? ;D
And relax, chief. Not so serious. You think BMI is good, I don't, no big deal...
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So you are in the medical field? ;D
And relax, chief. Not so serious. You think BMI is good, I don't, no big deal...
I am not in the medical industry. I am a research scientist and could care less if BMI is good or not. You are the one making blanket statements. The only reason you think it is not good is because you are uneducated about its appropriate uses and purposes.
No hard feelings though brosef :)
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I am not in the medical industry. I am a research scientist and could care less if BMI is good or not. You are the one making blanket statements. The only reason you think it is not good is because you are uneducated about its appropriate uses and purposes.
Great, so it's purpose is to tell the obesity rate in populations, except that why would it even allow individuals to input their data to determine "their" BMI, obesity, etc...? Like i said, medical field loves to use it and trainers who don't know anything. It's simple to use, so they use it. Medical field is very ignorant in regards to REAL training and nutrition.
And the BMI still = shit ;D
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BMI is irrelevant, doesnt change the FACT that a STAGGERING PERCENTAGE of americans (esp. in the south) are FAT AS HELL
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I went to the US on vacation back in 2003, I didn't see that many obese people...maybe things have changed now.
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I went to the US on vacation back in 2003, I didn't see that many obese people...maybe things have changed now.
It tends to be concentrated in areas with low "socioeconomic" status, which are usually not very hot vacation destinations :)
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It tends to be concentrated in areas with low "socioeconomic" status, which are usually not very hot vacation destinations :)
That was probably why then, I was in Florida.
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Here's some numbers.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361404.0;attach=396478;image)
Hawaii was the leanest until Onlyme moved there
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Hawaii was the leanest until Onlyme moved there
Haha, well played!
CA is one of the leaner west coast states as well, I think he moved from there. Coincidence?
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Fuck BMI! One's waist measurement is a MUCH BETTER indicator of obesity. A 40 inch waist or greater for a male=an obese fatass, and for females a 35 inch waist or greater=an obese fatass
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Fuck BMI! One's waist measurement is a MUCH BETTER indicator of obesity. A 40 inch waist or greater for a male=an obese fatass, and for females a 35 inch waist or greater=an obese fatass
What about Jay Cutler? Is he obese? ???
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hahaha ;D ;D good o'l americanos and their diets ;D
9 of 10 people say they are eating healthy why almost 7/10 are either overweight/obses hillarious ;D
"By Karen Rowan, MyHealthNewsDaily Managing Editor
posted: 04 January 2011 10:04 am ET
Despite surging obesity numbers in the U.S., a new survey finds that just one out of 10 Americans say their diet is unhealthy.
The survey, conducted by Consumer Reports, also found that while four in 10 admitted being "somewhat overweight," just 11 percent said they were very overweight or obese — a direct contradiction of previous weight measurements taken by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which show that 68 percent of Americans are overweight or obese.
"There does seem to be a disconnect" between reality and the answers most of us give when asked questions about our diet, how much exercise we get and our weight, said Molly Kimball, a registered dietitian at Ochshner's Elmwood Fitness Center in New Orleans.
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Not as healthy as we think
Part of the disconnect, Kimball said, comes from the way foods are marketed to us.
"So many people think that what they're eating is healthy — diet frozen dinners, fat-free ice cream, 100-calorie pretzel packs. Or they say, 'I never eat fast food,' but that doesn’t mean they're not eating a lot of other unhealthy things," she said.
In her practice, Kimball said, people tell her all the time that they don't understand why they're not losing weight, because they believe they're eating healthy foods.
For a reality check, people should check the ingredients in their food, she said.
"Skip the front of the package, and turn it over," Kimball told MyHealthNewsDaily. Some granola bars have rolled oats as their first ingredient, others list sugar, she said.
According to the survey, 60 percent said they eat the recommended five or more servings of fruit and vegetables every day or most days.
'If that's true, that's spectacular," said Deborah Enos, a certified nutritionist in Seattle. "But if you look at more studies, that's not what we're seeing."
Part of the problem, Enos said, is that "we really don't have an idea of what a portion looks like. We tend to under-portion the good stuff, and over-portion the bad stuff." In reality, a portion is the size of your fist, she said.
And the survey found that the most commonly eaten vegetable was lettuce or salad greens — 78 percent of respondents said they eat a serving a week.
"We take iceberg lettuce, with 600 calories of blue cheese dressing, and call it a salad," Enos said. But such "vegetables" don't provide us with healthy nutrients.
Some people also think they’re getting a serving of fruit or vegetables when they're not, Kimball said.
"People may think that fruit drinks or gummy snacks may be counted sometimes," she said. "And we feel noble when we eat something like that, like what we’re doing is healthy."
Got a sweet truth?
Half of survey respondents said they limit their daily intake of sugar.
"Sugar is the No. 1 health challenge we're fighting in this country," Enos said. "People have no idea what's an appropriate amount."
Part of the problem, she said, is that the sugar content of food is given in grams, and most people don't have a sense of the size of a gram.
And because sugar is the only element of food for which there's no "daily recommended" amount given on the back of food labels, most people don't know how much is too much, she said. Women should limit their intake to 40 grams a day, and men to 50 or 60, she said.
Kimball said that "limiting" your intake doesn't necessarily mean you're eating a healthy amount.
"If you have it less than you want it — even if you want it a lot — then you're limiting your intake." Such self-imposed limits can lead us to feel we're being healthier than we really are, she said.
And people get a lot of sugar from foods that they don't consider to be sweets, Kimball said. Breakfast cereals are common culprits.
"Or take yogurt – a carton of low-fat yogurt can have 33 grams of sugar," she said. "That might jack up the sugar intake, but in their minds, that's not 'sweets.'"
A nation of exercisers
Most survey respondents reported they get an hour of moderate exercise every day, and 31 percent rated themselves as "very active."
In general, it's harder to be dishonest with ourselves about how much time we spend exercising than it is to fudge on our eating habits, Kimball said. "But perception of exercise intensity can be fudged."
"A stroll may feel like moderate exercise," to some, she said.
Enos said that she would estimate the true number of people who get an hour of moderate exercise every day to be closer to 5 percent. "People really overestimate their physical output," she said.
The weight-loss commandment, Enos said, should be "Thou shall not kid thyself."
"People aren't malicious – they're not trying to lie," she said. "But as a country, because our potions are so out of control, we just kind of blow it."
The report was based on the results of a nationally representative sample of 1,234 U.S. residents age 21 and older, and was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation.
Pass it on: A recent survey found that most of us think our diets are healthy. Nutritionists say this shows we have hard time figuring out what's really healthy. "
9 out of 10 people are retards
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I thought that Jay said that his waist was 34 inches ::)
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Texas
Why are people so fat in texas?
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Why are people so fat in texas?
I don't know for sure but it's close to the second-fatest nation (Mexico).
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Why are people so fat in texas?
Cuz bench lives there...
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Here's some numbers.
That is a pretty telling map...
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That is a pretty telling map...
What would be more interesting would be to do an IQ distribution and compare it with all the obesity distributions. Then on top of that you could do a political ideology distribution..... looks like all the republicans would end up fat and stupid..... on top of that they should do an income distribution as well.... its ok though it doesn't need to be done. We all know the results ;D
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What would be more interesting would be to do an IQ distribution and compare it with all the obesity distributions. Then on top of that you could do a political ideology distribution..... looks like all the republicans would end up fat and stupid..... on top of that they should do an income distribution as well.... its ok though it doesn't need to be done. We all know the results ;D
I have no idea what their "Best Educated Index" is but for what it's worth:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index
And this too:
http://www.top50states.com/average-iq-score.html
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Here's some numbers.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361404.0;attach=396478;image)
To be fair to Missisipi, Onlyme has moved from there now.
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Why are people so fat in texas?
Sidewalks are almost non-existent. It's just assumed you're such a fatass that you need to drive everywhere.