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Liar Priest admitted taking now 400mg nandrolone a week...They are getting huge there down under.. ;)
Yes i use deca and went to 400mgs still use it now and then so you are wrong SPUDE.. as for GH dont use haven't for long time..waste of money for what i got out of it rather use stanazol..Why and i different because i dont lie about my usage.. I did video with eight other pros with Tom Platz talking about drug use..The others had their face blacked out and voice changed ..i told Ton no i want to be seen i have nothing to hide..so i didnt hide my face or voice...so when it comes to my life and drugs i never have lied..again why would i ..i do not care if you know what i take and if i took huge amounts i would say so..but sorry to say i dont...as for my hands they are the same as my mothers hands and my granfathers ....so please stop your stupid bullshit you sound like fuckwit GH15
-PRO LEE PRIEST, 6.1.2011, MD
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I'm surprised Lee even used anabolic/adrogenic steroids. Lee has very good genetics.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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just prayers and vitamins GH15!
no hgh involved!
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i'd say gh15 may have had a small hand into getting him to slowly admit a little higher dosage each time he posts now.
"ive never lied about my usage" yeh we get that ffs!
its the dosage.
he's fullly outline his CURRENT cycle given to him by hany rambod recently. its somewhere on md in a thread of 100 pages, lol. cant find it but remeber test went as high as a crazy 500mg!!!! ;D
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Liar Priest
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Gawd damn Lying, Liar Priest.
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i'd say gh15 may have had a small hand into getting him to slowly admit a little higher dosage each time he posts now.
"ive never lied about my usage" yeh we get that ffs!
its the dosage.
he's fullly outline his CURRENT cycle given to him by hany rambod recently. its somewhere on md in a thread of 100 pages, lol. cant find it but remeber test went as high as a crazy 500mg!!!! ;D
This.
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Who cares? Lee is a washed up hasbeen. There are bigger things to care about than what dosage he did or didn't take.
One thing you guys have to remember is that he's been training since 12 years old. He probably built alot of muscle naturally and that eased the wasy for steroid gains.
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Who cares? Lee is a washed up hasbeen. There are bigger things to care about than what dosage he did or didn't take.
One thing you guys have to remember is that he's been training since 12 years old. He probably built alot of muscle naturally and that eased the wasy for steroid gains.
Right.... ::)
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lol,,everything liat priest say as a rule of thumb multiply by 3
400mg = 1200
4iu = 12
200mg = 600
last 2 in regarding orals 50 winstrol = 150
50mg anaplon = 150mg
everything multiple by 3,, he lie in the form of 3s
he not worthy the piece of paper his name is as ifbb pro or past pro who knws what he is anymore,,his mom and grandada hands are big too duh because they too used cadavar gh DUHHHHH,, age 12 kid dont knwo right from left,,its sicknesss in the family that get him to bodyibuilding to begin with at this age to be on gh at 11 12 13 steroids at 15 16 and up megas this is family thing ,,its like incest in family but with hormones replace sex,,
gh15 approved
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Liar Priest admitted taking now 400mg nandrolone a week...They are getting huge there down under.. ;)
Yes i use deca and went to 400mgs still use it now and then so you are wrong SPUDE..as for GH dont use haven't for long time..waste of money for what i got out of it rather use stanazol..Why and i different because i dont lie about my usage..I did video with eight other pros with Tom Platz talking about drug use..The others had their face blacked out and voice changed ..i told Ton no i want to be seen i have nothing to hide..so i didnt hide my face or voice...so when it comes to my life and drugs i never have lied..again why would i ..i do not care if you know what i take and if i took huge amounts i would say so..but sorry to say i dont...as for my hands they are the same as my mothers hands and my granfathers ....so please stop your stupid bullshit you sound like fuckwit GH15
-PRO LEE PRIEST, 6.1.2011, MD
I believe Lee. Why is it that you guys think that all pros are taking huge amounts of sauce? I know a guy who took 6 tablets of Hemogenin(oxymetholone) a day for a month and gained only 10 lbs. Another guy took a single 200 mg Greek deca a week and blew like a balloon gaining 30 lbs in a month. It depends on how many muscle fibers you have, how long they are and how many receptors for androgens they have. I would not be surprised if Lee built his prime 225 lbs physique with no more than 400 mg of Deca, 250 mg of Winstrol a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. It is perfectly reasonable. The guy has crazy muscle fiber density and receptors for male hormones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Remember STH?
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I believe Lee. Why is it that you guys think that all pros are taking huge amounts of sauce? I know a guy who took 6 tablets of Hemogenin(oxymetholone) a day for a month and gained only 10 lbs. Another guy took a single 200 mg Greek deca a week and blew like a balloon gaining 30 lbs in a month. It depends on how many muscle fibers you have, how long they are and how many receptors for androgens they have. I would not be surprised if Lee built his prime 225 lbs physique with no more than 400 mg of Deca, 250 mg of Winstrol a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. It is perfectly reasonable. The guy has crazy muscle fiber density and receptors for male hormones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
whitewidows friend...
you are such an I D I O T ,,its behind shame,,listen to me careful ,,any one will gain 10lb on 6 tsablet of hemo,,they would gain 20lb on 6 tab hell i gained 30lb on 6 tabs of that shit,,most water bloofy,,the muscle fiber on a human body the dwarf size of liar priest is NOTHING,,he is 5;4 most of his yeasrs 5'2 5/3 he has no muscle fibers ,,he is little man ,,he is small small fella,,what gave him those muscle fiber you talkin gabout is HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE CADAVAR YOU INFANTILE,, thats what did it ,,no genetic nothing,,he couldnt even be 160lb on 200 mg nandrolone,,
you have no exprience in bodybuild ,,its amazing,,what are you doing on bodybuilding board?
a fella like steve reeves mayeb build it almost natural on steroids such as testoterona which is natural as gh15 say ,,but liar priest? the fella is one of the worst abuser of hormones in history of the cult,,youre in dream land boy ,,wake up
gh15 approvd
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liar priest todsay clean is 160lb max after 12 months of being real clean with absolitely no hormones in system,,and out of those 160lb a lot wil be his bone mass which wil decrease ,,but guess what friends....liar priest will nto stop drugs,,he wil only increase doses because he is getting to the sunset age,,age 40 is when you say bye bye bodybuilding,,see you next life,,
gh15 approved
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I believe Lee. Why is it that you guys think that all pros are taking huge amounts of sauce? I know a guy who took 6 tablets of Hemogenin(oxymetholone) a day for a month and gained only 10 lbs. Another guy took a single 200 mg Greek deca a week and blew like a balloon gaining 30 lbs in a month. It depends on how many muscle fibers you have, how long they are and how many receptors for androgens they have. I would not be surprised if Lee built his prime 225 lbs physique with no more than 400 mg of Deca, 250 mg of Winstrol a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. It is perfectly reasonable. The guy has crazy muscle fiber density and receptors for male hormones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
you're natural, right?
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I believe Lee. Why is it that you guys think that all pros are taking huge amounts of sauce? I know a guy who took 6 tablets of Hemogenin(oxymetholone) a day for a month and gained only 10 lbs. Another guy took a single 200 mg Greek deca a week and blew like a balloon gaining 30 lbs in a month. It depends on how many muscle fibers you have, how long they are and how many receptors for androgens they have. I would not be surprised if Lee built his prime 225 lbs physique with no more than 400 mg of Deca, 250 mg of Winstrol a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. It is perfectly reasonable. The guy has crazy muscle fiber density and receptors for male hormones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Damned sucky, you actually gained some credibility in my eyes in some of those threads about progressive overload etc...although we disagreed with each other you still had a point...but this post above is just plain pathetic...why don't you go and post at md brother, you fit well amongst all those lee's aussie gayfanboys...just sayin'...
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liar priest todsay clean is 160lb max after 12 months of being real clean with absolitely no hormones in system,,and out of those 160lb a lot wil be his bone mass which wil decrease ,,but guess what friends....liar priest will nto stop drugs,,he wil only increase doses because he is getting to the sunset age,,age 40 is when you say bye bye bodybuilding,,see you next life,,
gh15 approved
Spot on.
Lee has been on juice all his life, his nuts are probably non-existent. If he got off the sauce, his body would not be producing even the smallest drop of testosterone or HGH, he'd probably be closer to 100lbs than 160 in a year.
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Spot on.
Lee has been on juice all his life, his nuts are probably non-existent. If he got off the sauce, his body would not be producing even the smallest drop of testosterone or HGH, he'd probably be closer to 100lbs than 160 in a year.
His body probably never produced any HGH naturally since he is a midget, he's probably shrink in height as well as weight if he goes off
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5'4 off everything he will stand 160 after 12 months about 15%,,if he would want to look anything resembling his condition nwo which is at 8% on regular basis like any of us,,,then yes he will be about 130-140lb and bones wil weight more since they are just big ,,like that other mutant convict number 30274-23 gregory k,,
gh15 approved
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His body probably never produced any HGH naturally since he is a midget, he's probably shrink in height as well as weight if he goes off
height shrink will come with aging ,,he will end up 5'2 but he wont age because he wont get old ,,because he wont live to be old ,,because the person is out of his mind extreme,,he loved his sorry ass still do,,so he wont finsh himself,, but he will somehow get there who knwos how,,but he will ,,its just self destruction personality which lies and lies and lies in everything not only bodybuilding
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I believe Lee. Why is it that you guys think that all pros are taking huge amounts of sauce? I know a guy who took 6 tablets of Hemogenin(oxymetholone) a day for a month and gained only 10 lbs. Another guy took a single 200 mg Greek deca a week and blew like a balloon gaining 30 lbs in a month. It depends on how many muscle fibers you have, how long they are and how many receptors for androgens they have. I would not be surprised if Lee built his prime 225 lbs physique with no more than 400 mg of Deca, 250 mg of Winstrol a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. It is perfectly reasonable. The guy has crazy muscle fiber density and receptors for male hormones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, get the fuck outta here.
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His body probably never produced any HGH naturally since he is a midget, he's probably shrink in height as well as weight if he goes off
Lee off drugs:
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Lee off drugs:
(http://s.costumzee.com/users/Barbaro-1649-full.gif)
Notice huge feet and ears...permanent mutation cosed by long-time cadaver use
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somebody 'shop the green dwarf hat onto Lee's head.
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;D
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So Lee lies or he doesn't......who cares?
damn spude Lee owns your mind.
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... wonder how titus looks nowadays without the gear...
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i'd say gh15 may have had a small hand into getting him to slowly admit a little higher dosage each time he posts now.
"ive never lied about my usage" yeh we get that ffs!
its the dosage.
he's fullly outline his CURRENT cycle given to him by hany rambod recently. its somewhere on md in a thread of 100 pages, lol. cant find it but remeber test went as high as a crazy 500mg!!!! ;D
post it up !
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... wonder how titus looks nowadays without the gear...
http://www.doc.nv.gov/notis/detail.php?offender_id=1024059
according to that, he is maintaining some decent weight
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whitewidows friend...
you are such an I D I O T ,,its behind shame,,listen to me careful ,,any one will gain 10lb on 6 tsablet of hemo,,they would gain 20lb on 6 tab hell i gained 30lb on 6 tabs of that shit,,most water bloofy,,the muscle fiber on a human body the dwarf size of liar priest is NOTHING,,he is 5;4 most of his yeasrs 5'2 5/3 he has no muscle fibers ,,he is little man ,,he is small small fella,,what gave him those muscle fiber you talkin gabout is HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE CADAVAR YOU INFANTILE,, thats what did it ,,no genetic nothing,,he couldnt even be 160lb on 200 mg nandrolone,,
you have no exprience in bodybuild ,,its amazing,,what are you doing on bodybuilding board?
a fella like steve reeves mayeb build it almost natural on steroids such as testoterona which is natural as gh15 say ,,but liar priest? the fella is one of the worst abuser of hormones in history of the cult,,youre in dream land boy ,,wake up
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I am speaking from personal experience, dumbass. I have used steroids in the past and I knew tons of guys who did. I saw with my own eyes a guy blow up and gain 30 lbs with a single ampoule of Greek deca(weak steroid) a week, whilst another one gained nothing from 300 mg of Hemogenin(strong steroid) a day during the same time period. You know nothing. Get out of here.
And how do you know what Lee Priest uses or not? What evidence do you have of what you say? It's all hearsay. Priest could actually sue you for difamation of character(injury and defamation) is he knew who you were.
And what am I doing in a bodybuilding board? Well, keeping it alive, really. Besides me, only posters who come here to post on bodybuilding are ND, Basile, Earl and Howard. Everyone else comes here to post on everything but bodybuilding - MMA, other sports, politics, celebrity gossip and especially sex and to accuse others of being gay. I am one of the few genuine bodybulding fans here.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3513/leeyousuck.jpg)
doesnt look like a gh finger ??
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I'm surprised Lee even used anabolic/adrogenic steroids. Lee has very good genetics.
Which is why the drugs work well for him. ;)
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I am speaking from personal experience, dumbass. I have used steroids in the past and I knew tons of guys who did. I saw with my own eyes a guy blow up and gain 30 lbs with a single ampoule of Greek deca(weak steroid) a week, whilst another one gained nothing from 300 mg of Hemogenin(strong steroid) a day during the same time period. You know nothing. Get out of here.
And how do you know what Lee Priest uses or not? What evidence do you have of what you say? It's all hearsay. Priest could actually sue you for difamation of character(injury and defamation) is he knew who you were.
And what am I doing in a bodybuilding board? Well, keeping it alive, really. Besides me, only posters who come here to post on bodybuilding are ND, Basile, Earl and Howard. Everyone else comes here to post on everything but bodybuilding - MMA, other sports, politics, celebrity gossip and especially sex and to accuse others of being gay. I am one of the few genuine bodybulding fans here.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
If Lee followed gh15's advice he would have had 4 good years at the top and burned out just like he did!
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lol,,everything liat priest say as a rule of thumb multiply by 3
400mg = 1200
4iu = 12
200mg = 600
last 2 in regarding orals 50 winstrol = 150
50mg anaplon = 150mg
everything multiple by 3,, he lie in the form of 3s
he not worthy the piece of paper his name is as ifbb pro or past pro who knws what he is anymore,,his mom and grandada hands are big too duh because they too used cadavar gh DUHHHHH,, age 12 kid dont knwo right from left,,its sicknesss in the family that get him to bodyibuilding to begin with at this age to be on gh at 11 12 13 steroids at 15 16 and up megas this is family thing ,,its like incest in family but with hormones replace sex,,
gh15 approved
Thank you god of hormones for blessing us with your knowlege. Do not listen to the sucky liar.
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Wow, midget has balls. Thank you growth hormone. Liar is pathetic. Nothing without drugs.
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Lee is telling the truth. The bro is just a super-responder.
I watched a bro fill a syringe with 1/2 cc winstrol back in '96. Lee and Paul Dillet fought over who would have to take it. 15 years later, that syringe is still sitting on the bathroom counter.
I used to know his "dealer." He bought a tab of d-bol back in 2002 and a 1/4 cc of EQ with half a 'var in 2006. I'm not sure if he's bought anything since. I'll ask my bro and find out.
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synthol
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Lee is telling the truth. The bro is just a super-responder.
I watched a bro fill a syringe with 1/2 cc winstrol back in '96. Lee and Paul Dillet fought over who would have to take it. 15 years later, that syringe is still sitting on the bathroom counter.
I used to know his "dealer." He bought a tab of d-bol back in 2002 and a 1/4 cc of EQ with half a 'var in 2006. I'm not sure if he's bought anything since. I'll ask my bro and find out.
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Everyone saw a few years back that Lee Priest has the genetics to be a very obese bastard. Steroids alone at his age will keep the mass but it won't keep the fat off if his diet is shit. However boat loads of HGH will. And that is exactly why Mr. Sausage fingers can keep eating like garbage and still have abs. Any man who rubs his cock in human feces for fun would shot up drano on the right occasion.
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Who's chest did he shit on. Was it adela? Was there pics of this or hearsay
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Why did Lee not become a pianist with such delicate slender tapering hands as he possesses?
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Who's chest did he shit on. Was it adela? Was there pics of this or hearsay
Rumors were he would take a dump on someone and then rub his shit in the shit. Anyone practicing this type of maneuver and tattooing their face, driving over 200 mph etc. is not going to be on a disciplined low dose steroid regimen. It just doesn't work that way.
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Rumors were he would take a dump on someone and then rub his shit in the shit. Anyone practicing this type of maneuver and tattooing their face, driving over 200 mph etc. is not going to be on a disciplined low dose steroid regimen. It just doesn't work that way.
Zihuatanejo
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http://www.doc.nv.gov/notis/detail.php?offender_id=1024059
according to that, he is maintaining some decent weight
Build: STOCKY
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lol he wont recover.
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The things Lee lies about are his lifts, 725lbs for rep squats ::) 300lb curls ::)
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The things Lee lies about are his lifts, 725lbs for rep squats ::) 300lb curls ::)
Well, who in the world would believe him?
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the thing liar priest lie about is evedry thing,,look at those face in the pictureyou see them face,,when he suposdly fat and he is not,,he is still at 15% there,,that liar lied about that too,,he is no 20 % there or 30 he is 15% or even less,,the reason you all thnk he is high bodyat is the all you can eat shit,,with ANADROL AND TESTOSTERONA,,that will do it for you ,,you go off the hgh,,you get on anadrola and testosterona higher doses than hrt ofcorurse,,and you can get a physiqe up frmo 8% to 13-15% and look blooooooooofy like in the pic with out realy be fat,,which he is not fat there,,he is bloated watery pig with 15%,,in reality he could hope on gh add trenbolona and stil eat shit like in this time and be 8% in matter of listen closely now MATTER OF 1 SINGLE MONTH! thats 4 weeks pupils,,
so from so call picture fat ass which he is not,,he go to ripped swole liar priest in 4 weeks,,,the magic of hard work? or is it something else,,
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H O R M O N E S in the maga dosing abuse
liar priest will never be remembered for anything but being short,, being annoying,,and being a liar!
he never made the mark he wanted to make ,,never won o and never will,,his career is long gone,,you wil never see him placing high ever again ,,infact you in most likleihood will not see him ever competing again,,because he just dont have it anymore,,you get to age at late 30 that you really need to have lots of hormones and good quality and knwo what you do consistantly inorder to place high in show,,his time is gone,, he is only again LIE TO YOU VIA MANIPULATION AND TEASING YOU BY SAYING COMPETE COMPETE BEST SHAPE BLA BLOO INORDER TO CREATE A NAME FOR SUPPLEMENT HE IS ENDORSING UNDER SO CALLED HIS COMPANY WHICH IS NOT,,he is what we are calling in life,, pure and utter shame
the problem is,,he is shamless thats why the big decline and kick out of IFBB and all the rest of the shit that follow and still will,,he will not die old man,,
**** the tesotosterona used in this case to make this pictures is SUSPENSION ,,tne ,,underground no esteer testosterona that iwll create the blown up bloofy look and together with anadrola or even with out will get you into illusion of being out of shpe veryt fast eventhough you are still in shape just covered with water and little more fat,,
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If Liar Priest was on HGH starting at twelve how come he's still a midget? Isn't one of the medical purposes for HGH is giving it to kids while they can still gain height?
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If Liar Priest was on HGH starting at twelve how come he's still a midget? Isn't one of the medical purposes for HGH is giving it to kids while they can still gain height?
Not if combined with steroids, they will close the epiphyseal plate, which will stop growth.
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If Liar Priest was on HGH starting at twelve how come he's still a midget? Isn't one of the medical purposes for HGH is giving it to kids while they can still gain height?
It's not like gh would make a kid 6'2" if one would be 5'4" without it.
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Not if combined with steroids, they will close the epiphyseal plate, which will stop growth.
But didn't Arnold and Lou take steroids while still in their teens? I think Arnold started at around 16. Not sure about Lou but at 22 he was already one of the best in the world. I doubt he started at 18. And since all steroids are a derivative of testosterone which shoots up during your teen years why would it stunt your growth?
Where's that VanB when you need him?
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But didn't Arnold and Lou take steroids while still in their teens? I think Arnold started at around 16. Not sure about Lou but at 22 he was already one of the best in the world. I doubt he started at 18. And since all steroids are a derivative of testosterone which shoots up during your teen years why would it stunt your growth?
Where's that VanB when you need him?
Don't know about others, bro, but my my growth stopped at 13-14 or something like that...guess that' pretty near the time when my puberty started as well..then there's also some weird individuals who continue growing, vertically i mean, till their twenties, what's up with that? guess it just means they are less of a man than i am...Btw, have you ever thought, truly tall men often seem a bit feminine???
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have ANY of you actually done proper cycles and then spent months to years training clean again?
it seems that you havent.
if you had, you'd realise that most of your gains can be kept, and strength too.
when you go clean, your strength stops going up, and even goes down for a while. but after a few months you notice progress again and you get back to the weight you achieved when you were on.
that's assuming you werent going stupid though on the drugs in the first place.
it doesnt make sense that huge pros go back to normal sizes when they are off the drugs. it makes sense if they went off the drugs and then didnt train and eat.
anyone whos done gear and then came back years later, or continued training clean after would know that the gear takes u to another level. whats all this talk about lee p ending up at 160lbs at 10%bfat when he stops?
he mght go to that if he went off and didnt train, but if he then trained clean, he'd still be one large mo fo and appear like hes not clean.
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But didn't Arnold and Lou take steroids while still in their teens? I think Arnold started at around 16. Not sure about Lou but at 22 he was already one of the best in the world. I doubt he started at 18. And since all steroids are a derivative of testosterone which shoots up during your teen years why would it stunt your growth?
Where's that VanB when you need him?
Doing steroids as a teen will not necessarily stunt your growth. They can but not always. You also have to remember that it's not testosterone that closes the growth plates, but estrogen! This is probably why studies with Anavar on kids with delayed puberty didn't lower predicted height. They just grew to their predicted height faster. Anavar doesn't aromatize of course. So a kid could theoretically do some anabolics with no negative effects in this regard. IIRC Arimidex has been studied as a way to increase height, and I think it worked. Arimidex lowers estrogen while increasing testosterone.
Regarding GH, it doesn't necessarily make you normal or average height either. Depends on why the kid is short. Plus it can only add so many inches.
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have ANY of you actually done proper cycles and then spent months to years training clean again?
it seems that you havent.
if you had, you'd realise that most of your gains can be kept, and strength too.
when you go clean, your strength stops going up, and even goes down for a while. but after a few months you notice progress again and you get back to the weight you achieved when you were on.
that's assuming you werent going stupid though on the drugs in the first place.
it doesnt make sense that huge pros go back to normal sizes when they are off the drugs. it makes sense if they went off the drugs and then didnt train and eat.
anyone whos done gear and then came back years later, or continued training clean after would know that the gear takes u to another level. whats all this talk about lee p ending up at 160lbs at 10%bfat when he stops?
he mght go to that if he went off and didnt train, but if he then trained clean, he'd still be one large mo fo and appear like hes not clean.
Just out of curiosity, what did your cycles look like? Products, milligrams, length of cycles etc?
Regardless of sheer size, weight and so on, the drug look is what goes first and can't be avoided. Shoulders seem to get narrower, traps lose size, vascularity is reduced, skin tone changes etc. I know guys who've gone off and still trained, compensated with more food (got way fatter), but the look is completely different. A large part of the steroid effect has to do with water. There is no way to maintain that glycogen and blood volume off drugs. It's like letting the air out of a balloon.
My guess is that you did very modest cycles?
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it doesnt make sense that huge pros go back to normal sizes when they are off the drugs. it makes sense if they went off the drugs and then didnt train and eat.
anyone whos done gear and then came back years later, or continued training clean after would know that the gear takes u to another level. whats all this talk about lee p ending up at 160lbs at 10%bfat when he stops?
he mght go to that if he went off and didnt train, but if he then trained clean, he'd still be one large mo fo and appear like hes not clean.
Bullshit.
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Just out of curiosity, what did your cycles look like? Products, milligrams, length of cycles etc?
Regardless of sheer size, weight and so on, the drug look is what goes first and can't be avoided. Shoulders seem to get narrower, traps lose size, vascularity is reduced, skin tone changes etc. I know guys who've gone off and still trained, compensated with more food (got way fatter), but the look is completely different. A large part of the steroid effect has to do with water. There is no way to maintain that glycogen and blood volume off drugs. It's like letting the air out of a balloon.
My guess is that you did very modest cycles?
Van, what is your opinion on HGH and it's effect on height when given as a teenager? Sure, if a person's natural height is 5'4" it's not going to make him 6'2" but maybe 5'8". And how would that be effected if steroids are taken at the same time. It's been my experience that most guys shoot up in height during their teen years with me growing just over 3 inches between 15-16 when testosterone is really soaring.
As far as I know, Liar Priest isn't that much taller than his parents so if he did take HGH during his early teen years it had no effect on his height.
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Van, what is your opinion on HGH and it's effect on height when given as a teenager? Sure, if a person's natural height is 5'4" it's not going to make him 6'2" but maybe 5'8". And how would that be effected if steroids are taken at the same time. It's been my experience that most guys shoot up in height during their teen years with me growing just over 3 inches between 15-16 when testosterone is really soaring.
As far as I know, Liar Priest isn't that much taller than his parents so if he did take HGH during his early teen years it had no effect on his height.
I don't know/remember what the research says so can't say much. But I'm sure it all depends on why someone is short, if there is some dysfunction vs. just being genetically naturally short.
I have a vague memory of Lee saying he's the tallest in his whole family so maybe his supposed GH treatment did do something. :D
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Don't know about others, bro, but my my growth stopped at 13-14 or something like that...guess that' pretty near the time when my puberty started as well..then there's also some weird individuals who continue growing, vertically i mean, till their twenties, what's up with that? guess it just means they are less of a man than i am...Btw, have you ever thought, truly tall men often seem a bit feminine???
I stopped growing at about 19 in regards to height. But hey i'm tall and feminine.
I know they give the GH to kids that have growing conditions or lack of growth rather, but i don't think hat it can push you much past your genetic template.
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Zihuatanejo
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have ANY of you actually done proper cycles and then spent months to years training clean again?
it seems that you havent.
if you had, you'd realise that most of your gains can be kept, and strength too.
when you go clean, your strength stops going up, and even goes down for a while. but after a few months you notice progress again and you get back to the weight you achieved when you were on.
that's assuming you werent going stupid though on the drugs in the first place.
it doesnt make sense that huge pros go back to normal sizes when they are off the drugs. it makes sense if they went off the drugs and then didnt train and eat.
anyone whos done gear and then came back years later, or continued training clean after would know that the gear takes u to another level. whats all this talk about lee p ending up at 160lbs at 10%bfat when he stops?
he mght go to that if he went off and didnt train, but if he then trained clean, he'd still be one large mo fo and appear like hes not clean.
You're wasting your time on these guys...Because their God..GH15/Sevestase isn't able to look very impressive on 100 mg of d-bol a day, he went on a quest to convince everyone that genetics mean nothing (cause his suck) and that you can only weigh 160 at 5'10 lean if you're natural. Gotta hand it to the Romanian, he's kept this gimmick going a long time and has convinced a lot of people. Of course, people who have been in the game since the 80's know plenty of bodybuilders who made outstanding gains on moderate juice dose (500 to 600 mg a week total or less) and plenty of people with shit genetics and crappy work ethic that couldn't grow on double the amount.
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No. The question here is whether a person can build his body using gear, then STOP using gear - while continuing to "eat big" and "train big" - only to keep most of his lean mass permanently without further drug use. He can't.
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You're wasting your time on these guys...Because their God..GH15/Sevestase isn't able to look very impressive on 100 mg of d-bol a day, he went on a quest to convince everyone that genetics mean nothing (cause his suck) and that you can only weigh 160 at 5'10 lean if you're natural. Gotta hand it to the Romanian, he's kept this gimmick going a long time and has convinced a lot of people. Of course, people who have been in the game since the 80's know plenty of bodybuilders who made outstanding gains on moderate juice dose (500 to 600 mg a week total or less) and plenty of people with shit genetics and crappy work ethic that couldn't grow on double the amount.
you know nothing,,you know no bodybuidler bcause if you did you woudl knwo how it really is,,you would know we are addicts to hormones,,you would know many of us are addicts to other drugs,, thsoe are the losers ofcourse but they are among us ,,the convicts and the narcotic addicts,,you would also know gh15 has nothing to do with the sevste fella,, and you also would know gh15 is right about the natural limits,,
the lies are long as the day is young my friend,,for some reason especially in americnaa the fellas do not like to admit for hormone usage,,they always try to miniizeit mainly because they are americanos,,and americanos see shame in not being able to do things the proper way ,,it came to them from their granpa generation ,,so they consider relying on hormones shame,,but all of them do it,,
its very weird and twisted situation especially with americanos,,ofcourse it resembling their relashioinship with girls which never survive because americanos as of 2011 are failed GENERATION,,
gh15 approved
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have ANY of you actually done proper cycles and then spent months to years training clean again?
it seems that you havent.
if you had, you'd realise that most of your gains can be kept, and strength too.
when you go clean, your strength stops going up, and even goes down for a while. but after a few months you notice progress again and you get back to the weight you achieved when you were on.
that's assuming you werent going stupid though on the drugs in the first place.
it doesnt make sense that huge pros go back to normal sizes when they are off the drugs. it makes sense if they went off the drugs and then didnt train and eat.
anyone whos done gear and then came back years later, or continued training clean after would know that the gear takes u to another level. whats all this talk about lee p ending up at 160lbs at 10%bfat when he stops?
he mght go to that if he went off and didnt train, but if he then trained clean, he'd still be one large mo fo and appear like hes not clean.
Just out of curiosity, what did your cycles look like? Products, milligrams, length of cycles etc?
Regardless of sheer size, weight and so on, the drug look is what goes first and can't be avoided. Shoulders seem to get narrower, traps lose size, vascularity is reduced, skin tone changes etc. I know guys who've gone off and still trained, compensated with more food (got way fatter), but the look is completely different. A large part of the steroid effect has to do with water. There is no way to maintain that glycogen and blood volume off drugs. It's like letting the air out of a balloon.
My guess is that you did very modest cycles?
I tend to agree with both of you guys in some points. Vanb, youre on spot! i got off cycle and these thing were the first to notice....strength is the same, maybe a bit down, along with my stamina... but youre spot on with the rest. I have a "healthier" look on my face too.
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I stopped growing at about 19 in regards to height. But hey i'm tall and feminine.
I know they give the GH to kids that have growing conditions or lack of growth rather, but i don't think hat it can push you much past your genetic template.
But isn't there a medical condition where the HGH production goes hay wire and they turn people into giants?
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But isn't there a medical condition where the HGH production goes hay wire and they turn people into giants?
So you think lee had that condition too...but cos of those 200mg deca his epiphyseal plates closed and he became a "giant midget" instead...?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XTv5qexD2ZaQRM:http://www.headwinderlicker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/midget-thong-nick.jpg&t=1)
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So you think lee had that condition too...but cos of those 200mg deca his epiphyseal plates closed and he became a "giant midget" instead...?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XTv5qexD2ZaQRM:http://www.headwinderlicker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/midget-thong-nick.jpg&t=1)
thats not branch warren
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Looks like lee priest didnt want gb to know he was upping the dose...i went to md to check out if lee is still telling his pathetis lies and found out that my access to lp section was denied...oh brotha...i'm not gonna survive... :'( ::) ;D
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I think if Lee Preist stopped the drugs he will weigh more than 160, because he will be a fat ass. He enjoys food and sweets. If he keeps training he would even be havier with high bodyfat.