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Brace yourselves...Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
Hillbuzz ^ | 1/9/2011 | KevinDujan01
The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Former three-time Democrat gubernatorial candidate Fred Phelps Jr. (commonly called just “Fred Phelps”) and his Westboro Hate Group have announced plans to disrupt the funeral of 9 year-old shooting victim Christina Greene.
Christina was murdered by Jared Lee Loughner yesterday in his assassination attempt on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. The little girl was born on September 11th, 2001, so her parents have been cursed with a horrific trifecta of high profile trauma: their daughter born on the worst day in our generations’ lives, their daughter murdered in an assassination attempt on a member of Congress, and Democrat Fred Phelps aiming his hate machine at their family during their daughter’s funeral.
Democrat Phelps (an enormous supporter of Al Gore’s, though the media conveniently leaves off that he’s a Democrat and instead likes to imply he’s a conservative, which he is not…he’s a Democrat, and ran repeatedly on the Democrat ticket unsuccessfully for several elected offices) disrupted the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards last month, because it is what he does.
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Its funny..there is a long list of people who are decidedly anti-American...yet admired by the Left in this country. The MSM seems to forget all that.
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Hopefully the Patriot Guard will be there.
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wtf is this way anywhere near me I would make it a point to show up and cancel these morons out
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wtf is this way anywhere near me I would make it a point to show up and cancel these morons out
Wonder if SS is busy that day.
I think "Reverend ::) " Phelps must have missed this:
EPH 4:29-32
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
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I would bet that if he shows up there it will be one of the last places he shows up at above ground.
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The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Is this ALL democrats that support this horrible act?
Or just a total of 15 morons (out of 310 million americans) who prescribe to this hateful ideology?
By your logic....... fuccit, it's not even logic, it's all emotion for you, isnt it?
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I'm so ready to toss a brick through my tv, smash my computer and move to a cabin in the middle of nowhere. I'm not sure I can keep digesting the constant stream of absurd stupidity from fucking human trash day after day. I'd rather be fishing.
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Its funny..there is a long list of people who are decidedly anti-American...yet admired by the Left in this country. The MSM seems to forget all that.
Which member of "The Left" have stood up and said they support protesting at a little girl's funeral?
Yes, this asshole is a democrat. Okay. It doesn't mean all democrats support him. I am pretttty sure most KKKlansmen sure weren't obama voters - but it doesn't mean "Mccain voters support burning crosses on lawn".
All this assigning 1/2 our country blame for a few morons' behaviors... well, it's just plain weird, man.
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Phelps isn't doing this because in the name of politics and being a Democrat, his actions are from being religious and his Christian views.
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Phelps isn't doing this because in the name of politics and being a Democrat, his actions are from being religious and his Christian views.
his views arent Christian
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Brace yourselves...Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
Hillbuzz ^ | 1/9/2011 | KevinDujan01
The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Former three-time Democrat gubernatorial candidate Fred Phelps Jr. (commonly called just “Fred Phelps”) and his Westboro Hate Group have announced plans to disrupt the funeral of 9 year-old shooting victim Christina Greene.
Christina was murdered by Jared Lee Loughner yesterday in his assassination attempt on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. The little girl was born on September 11th, 2001, so her parents have been cursed with a horrific trifecta of high profile trauma: their daughter born on the worst day in our generations’ lives, their daughter murdered in an assassination attempt on a member of Congress, and Democrat Fred Phelps aiming his hate machine at their family during their daughter’s funeral.
Democrat Phelps (an enormous supporter of Al Gore’s, though the media conveniently leaves off that he’s a Democrat and instead likes to imply he’s a conservative, which he is not…he’s a Democrat, and ran repeatedly on the Democrat ticket unsuccessfully for several elected offices) disrupted the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards last month, because it is what he does.
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The Christians do some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Christians .
it must work both ways, right
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I think anyone who protests at ANY funeral should be left alone...
Police, cameras, and everyone else should leave them alone...
with the victim's family. ;)
Then, we'll see if the guy is able to protest the next funeral wearing the multiple injuries the first family would probably inflict haha!
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his views arent Christian
Correct.
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Brace yourselves...Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
Hillbuzz ^ | 1/9/2011 | KevinDujan01
The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Former three-time Democrat gubernatorial candidate Fred Phelps Jr. (commonly called just “Fred Phelps”) and his Westboro Hate Group have announced plans to disrupt the funeral of 9 year-old shooting victim Christina Greene.
Christina was murdered by Jared Lee Loughner yesterday in his assassination attempt on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. The little girl was born on September 11th, 2001, so her parents have been cursed with a horrific trifecta of high profile trauma: their daughter born on the worst day in our generations’ lives, their daughter murdered in an assassination attempt on a member of Congress, and Democrat Fred Phelps aiming his hate machine at their family during their daughter’s funeral.
Democrat Phelps (an enormous supporter of Al Gore’s, though the media conveniently leaves off that he’s a Democrat and instead likes to imply he’s a conservative, which he is not…he’s a Democrat, and ran repeatedly on the Democrat ticket unsuccessfully for several elected offices) disrupted the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards last month, because it is what he does.
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333 - tell me you're not really this stupid
Phelps is a relgious kook and does not represent the "left" just like he does not represent other christians
the only person Phelps represents is himself
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The Christians do some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Christians .
it must work both ways, right
and a new low for lawyers too (though Phelps is disbarred I'm still going to lump him in with all other lawyers)
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The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Quote of the year right here, folks. It shows you how much some people truly don't understand how democrats think. Most dems would spit at this fool screaming at this poor little girl's funeral.
Look at it this way. Tim McVeigh was a republican. Does that mean all republicans support blowing up daycare centers? of course not. Does that mean all white people, or all males, like to blow up daycare centers? Or course not.
The actions of a very disturbed and evil few are by no means representative of the larger group. 33, do you get that?
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his views arent Christian
he thinks they are. does his odd understanding of the bible mean he's not Christian? If so does that mean everyone with a wrong understandind of Christ/God is not christian?
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Quote of the year right here, folks. It shows you how much some people truly don't understand how democrats think. Most dems would spit at this fool screaming at this poor little girl's funeral.
Look at it this way. Tim McVeigh was a republican. Does that mean all republicans support blowing up daycare centers? of course not. Does that mean all white people, or all males, like to blow up daycare centers? Or course not.
The actions of a very disturbed and evil few are by no means representative of the larger group. 33, do you get that?
So would most Christians. Hasn't stopped Christian bashers from referencing these people anytime they feel like attacking Christianity.
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I posted the article as written 240. Take it up with hillbuzz.
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I posted the article as written 240. Take it up with hillbuzz.
I see. Do you agree with it?
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Phelps was creepy in poltergeist II
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No, I posted this thread just to post the news of this scumbag going there.
Funny the msm goes after palin worse than they do this guy. Go figure.
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This guy has the potential to disrupt a few funerals. And perhaps catch an ass whooping for his trouble.
Palin, on the other hand, has the potential to win the presidency and then let her bible lead to her to nuclear war.
Kinda different, huh?
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No, I posted this thread just to post the news of this scumbag going there.
Funny the msm goes after palin worse than they do this guy. Go figure.
really
then why did you pick a story (or is it some blogger) whose first sentence reads
"The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats."
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really
then why did you pick a story (or is it some blogger) whose first sentence reads
33 knows what he's doing ;)
His hatred for "the left" has entered the irrational stage.
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Not true at all.
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This guy has the potential to disrupt a few funerals. And perhaps catch an ass whooping for his trouble.
Palin, on the other hand, has the potential to win the presidency and then let her bible lead to her to nuclear war.
Kinda different, huh?
“Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother” – Chairman Obama
“Bring it on”- Obama Regime to The American People.
“Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans” – Obama
“I want all Americans to get in each others faces! – Obama
“You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama
"Republicans are our enemies"--Obama
“I am going to strangle all Republicans who don’t agree with me politically”
– 5 Time Draft Dodger Biden
“the Cambridge Police acted Stupidly” ” – Beer Summit Gaffe Leader Obama
Last but not least the Democratic map with Republican targets on it. -- DNC
“God Damn America” – Barrack Hussein Obama’s Spiritual Advisor
“We should rip the heart right out of the chest of a former Vice President of The United States!”
– Left Wing Hate Hero And Agitator for Leftist Terrorism – Shultz
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“Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother” – Chairman Obama
“Bring it on”- Obama Regime to The American People.
“Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans” – Obama
“I want all Americans to get in each others faces! – Obama
“You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama
"Republicans are our enemies"--Obama
“I am going to strangle all Republicans who don’t agree with me politically”
– 5 Time Draft Dodger Biden
“the Cambridge Police acted Stupidly” ” – Beer Summit Gaffe Leader Obama
Last but not least the Democratic map with Republican targets on it. -- DNC
“God Damn America” – Barrack Hussein Obama’s Spiritual Advisor
“We should rip the heart right out of the chest of a former Vice President of The United States!”
– Left Wing Hate Hero And Agitator for Leftist Terrorism – Shultz
where did you cut and paste this from?
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where did you cut and paste this from?
Does it matter? Where it came from doesn't make those words any less true. :)
I'm surprised people haven't snapped until now. The hatred and war-mongering coming from the Dems is nothing short of disgusting. Talk about trying to foment violence among the populace.
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Does it matter? Where it came from doesn't make those words any less true. :)
I'm surprised people haven't snapped until now. The hatred and war-mongering coming from the Dems is nothing short of disgusting. Talk about trying to foment violence among the populace.
I'd like to know where you found it so I can go look at it
what's the link
and - I don't know if any of those quotes are true. That's why I'd like to start by looking at the source
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I'd like to know where you found it so I can go look at it
what's the link
and - I don't know if any of those quotes are true. That's why I'd like to start by looking at the source
So you think I made those up? I don't care about this board enough to do that. But here's an idea: do your own research.
Let's not forget Obama called the Republicans terrorists just a few short weeks ago. Ahh Obama, the great divider. Democrats driving this country towards violence. :-\
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So you think I made those up? I don't care about this board enough to do that. But here's an idea: do your own research.
Let's not forget Obama called the Republicans terrorists just a few short weeks ago. Ahh Obama, the great divider. Democrats driving this country towards violence. :-\
I don't think you made it up
Like I said -I think you copied and pasted it
where did you find it
what's the problem with showing us where you found it?
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Hopefully the Patriot Guard will be there.
one day I will be there.....
bench
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So you think I made those up? I don't care about this board enough to do that. But here's an idea: do your own research.
Let's not forget Obama called the Republicans terrorists just a few short weeks ago. Ahh Obama, the great divider. Democrats driving this country towards violence. :-\
because they are....so are democrates....if you support either you are a damn fool
what has been the constant of the fall of any great civilazation?
1)politics
2)religion
i am firmly against both.....
bench
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wait........ sooooooooo
Obama fighting with repubs over the country's direction - somehow - shows that all 100 mil democrats are somehow supporting of this nutbag?
Um, ya know guys... I think this demonstrates why Obama is sitll at 50% on Gallup.... The alternative - repubs - too often come off as irrational.
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This guy has the potential to disrupt a few funerals. And perhaps catch an ass whooping for his trouble.
Palin, on the other hand, has the potential to win the presidency and then let her bible lead to her to nuclear war.
Kinda different, huh?
I'm not so afraid of Palin's bible, as I am her cluelessness, her stupidity, her terrorists, and her witch doctors.
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Is this ALL democrats that support this horrible act?
Or just a total of 15 morons (out of 310 million americans) who prescribe to this hateful ideology?
By your logic....... fuccit, it's not even logic, it's all emotion for you, isnt it?
ALL dem are traitorous commies and ALL rep are patriotic heroes. Get It?
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his views arent Christian
Exactly. But you can not tell him that anymore than you can tell anyone else they are not a Christian because of how they interpret the Bible for themselves and their lives either. If you could judge, then you would be doing God's job.
The man is seriously deranged and eventually he will come across some other individual that is (almost) as deranged and fanatical as he is that is going through the grief process of burying a relative that Phelps is protesting. That is going to be interesting to say the least.
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I posted the article as written 240. Take it up with hillbuzz.
You endorse it by posting it.. fucking sickening it is.. like seriously when does it end.. our country is doomed with this kind of vile sickening bullshit commentary.. just amazing. :'(
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You endorse it by posting it.. fucking sickening it is.. like seriously when does it end.. our country is doomed with this kind of vile sickening bullshit commentary.. just amazing. :'(
Yeah. Trying to blame Sarah Palin for this tragedy, probably a mere hours after the shooting, is complete nonsense.
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Yeah. Trying to blame Sarah Palin for this tragedy, probably a mere hours after the shooting, is complete nonsense.
it is also... see youre playing the left wing right wing shit right now.. just wont let it go.. shit is wild.. makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.. this is how my countrymen act in a tragedy.. start point finger at political parties for a leg up in the rhetoric.. wtf is that.. like it seriously disgusts me
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Just to add to it.
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This guy is a fucking kook.
Just like Palin and Pelosi... fucking kooks one and all.
What a fucking mess.
Was the girl born on 9/11?? I have no idea but whatever... shows he's even more kook than I thought.
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it is also... see youre playing the left wing right wing shit right now.. just wont let it go.. shit is wild.. makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.. this is how my countrymen act in a tragedy.. start point finger at political parties for a leg up in the rhetoric.. wtf is that.. like it seriously disgusts me
You're absolutely right man... Absolutely disgusting. Shows how shitty politicians are as a whole.
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Yeah. Trying to blame Sarah Palin for this tragedy, probably a mere hours after the shooting, is complete nonsense.
BB, when you met the Palins in hawaii last year, did you let her know you found that target image distasteful?
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You would think that this is one thing that everyone could agree on, Phelps and his minions are oxygen thieves, but alas someone there is still an argument as to whether he is left or right, fucking pathetic.
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it is also... see youre playing the left wing right wing shit right now.. just wont let it go.. shit is wild.. makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.. this is how my countrymen act in a tragedy.. start point finger at political parties for a leg up in the rhetoric.. wtf is that.. like it seriously disgusts me
Really? The fact I don't think we should be blaming this shooting on partisan politics means I'm "playing the left wing right wing" thing?
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BB, when you met the Palins in hawaii last year, did you let her know you found that target image distasteful?
240, did you interact with any adults today?
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240, did you interact with any adults today?
i went and saw my friend julio for a mcgriddle this morning. i gotta say it was a good day.
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I'm confused by why you list this as "Left".
Sounds like a pretty conservative christian thing here... Phelps is the God hates fags guy right?
And if a person says they are conservative... They aren't?
Last I checked, it was the people themselves who determine if they are liberal or conservative.
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I'm confused by why you list this as "Left".
Sounds like a pretty conservative christian thing here... Phelps is the God hates fags guy right?
And if a person says they are conservative... They aren't?
Last I checked, it was the people themselves who determine if they are liberal or conservative.
Nah. That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Nah. That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
so most christians are not conservatives?
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Phelps isn't doing this because in the name of politics and being a Democrat, his actions are from being religious and his Christian views.
well doing this during that innocent litte girls funeral...THAT FUCKER CAN KISS MY VIEW
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i went and saw my friend julio for a mcgriddle this morning. i gotta say it was a good day.
today seems kind of odd, no barking from the dog, no smog, and mama cook the breakfast with no hog. ;D
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Nah. That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I thought you were a conservative if decided to say you were... So it seems to me that he is listing himself as a conservative, therefore he must be.
I also disagree with your statement... Most christians do consider themselves conservatives.
My assumption is not based on "all", but on "most".
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Nah. That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...
bench
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anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...
bench
Don't insult Beach like that... That's a God fearing Christian man there.
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I thought you were a conservative if decided to say you were... So it seems to me that he is listing himself as a conservative, therefore he must be.
I also disagree with your statement... Most christians do consider themselves conservatives.
My assumption is not based on "all", but on "most".
He's a Democrat.
I didn't say most. I said all: "That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth."
Most people are conservative, so it wouldn't surprise me if most Christians are conservative.
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anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...
bench
Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales. :)
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I consider myself a South Park Conservative. I am not religious, have not been to church save for weddings or funerals in about 15 years. However, the anti-religious zealots are far worse to me.
As for Phelps, this man is beyond deserving a dirt nap at this point and I am surprised it has not happened so far.
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I consider myself a South Park Conservative. I am not religious, have not been to church save for weddings or funerals in about 15 years. However, the anti-religious zealots are far worse to me.
As for Phelps, this man is beyond deserving a dirt nap at this point and I am surprised it has not happened so far.
What's a South Park Conservative?
The paranoid anti-religious extremists really need a history lesson.
Phelps is a scourge.
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What's a South Park Conservative?
The paranoid anti-religious extremists really need a history lesson.
Phelps is a scourge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican
Ah so. Thanks.
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Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales. :)
what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth? ;)
of course I believe in a higher energy or power...
but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it. Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?
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what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth? ;)
of course I believe in a higher energy or power...
but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it. Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?
Try loughners" logic test and see how it works out. Ha ha ha ha.
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what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth? ;)
of course I believe in a higher energy or power...
but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it. Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?
lol. No, you don't get to make up your own facts and ask me to debate them.
If you're trying to follow along, bench essentially said people who believe in God shouldn't be allowed to vote. I pointed out that the overwhelming majority of the country believes in God. If you disagree, more power to you.
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Try loughners" logic test and see how it works out. Ha ha ha ha.
He's too busy trying to link him to Palin.
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lol. No, you don't get to make up your own facts and ask me to debate them.
If you're trying to follow along, bench essentially said people who believe in God shouldn't be allowed to vote. I pointed out that the overwhelming majority of the country believes in God. If you disagree, more power to you.
fair enough
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Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales. :)
which explains the shit shape we are in ;) thanks for playing Jr...
bench
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He's a Democrat.
I didn't say most. I said all: "That assumes all Christians are conservatives. Nothing could be further from the truth."
Most people are conservative, so it wouldn't surprise me if most Christians are conservative.
Democrats can't be conservative?
He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.
So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.
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it is also... see youre playing the left wing right wing shit right now.. just wont let it go.. shit is wild.. makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.. this is how my countrymen act in a tragedy.. start point finger at political parties for a leg up in the rhetoric.. wtf is that.. like it seriously disgusts me
Careful... a very similar comment opened up a world of hurt for the Dixie Chicks a few years ago. :-\
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Democrats can't be conservative?
He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.
So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.
I guess one is allowed to make up their own definition of what another person is when is suits their agenda eh?
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which explains the shit shape we are in ;) thanks for playing Jr...
bench
Yeah. Maybe if people were more like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, James Madison, George Washington, etc., things wouldn't be so bad.
But they all believed in God too. :)
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Democrats can't be conservative?
He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.
So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.
Yes there are conservative Democrats.
I've called who liberals the past two years?
Who said he's not a liberal? Besides you. Where did he define himself as a conservative?
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Yes there are conservative Democrats.
I've called who liberals the past two years?
Who said he's not a liberal? Besides you. Where did he define himself as a conservative?
There are conservative democrats for sure. There used to be a lot. Too bad the party has been hijacked by extremists like Pelosi and Reid and now moderate Dems are vilified for being "too right-wing".
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There are conservative democrats for sure. There used to be a lot. Too bad the party has been hijacked by extremists like Pelosi and Reid and now moderate Dems are vilified for being "too right-wing".
True. Democrats also lost a golden opportunity to lead the past four years.
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Yeah. Maybe if people were more like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, James Madison, George Washington, etc., things wouldn't be so bad.
But they all believed in God too. :)
didnt matter what they believed...cause they actually made a difference....unlike you, and the rest of the loud mouth cowards that find it easier to show how much worse the other team is than your own...instead of making a difference.....man up, or shut up....
bench
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didnt matter what they believed...cause they actually made a difference....unlike you, and the rest of the loud mouth cowards that find it easier to show how much worse the other team is than your own...instead of making a difference.....man up, or shut up....
bench
First you say anyone who believes in God shouldn't have a voice. Now it's anyone who believes in God, but also make a difference? Which is it?
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There are conservative democrats for sure. There used to be a lot. Too bad the party has been hijacked by extremists like Pelosi and Reid and now moderate Dems are vilified for being "too right-wing".
There used to liberal republicans too, but the Republican party got hi-jacked by the Christian right.
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There used to liberal republicans too, but the Republican party got hi-jacked by the Christian right.
Two wrongs make a right.
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Two wrongs make a right.
No, that's the problem... Back in the day, I was proud to say I was a Republican... Hard to do that now.
I'm a guy who worries about the things that affect him on a daily basis, and that is generally taxes and spending.
I don't see a lot of difference in the parties from those two items the 8-10 years to be honest.
However, most of the time, both parties are
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True. Democrats also lost a golden opportunity to lead the past four years.
???
I'd say they were pretty durn effective at leading the NATION to the direction they had in mind. Obama achived a shitload of his goals...
If your idea of "effective" is "achieved 55% of his goals by working with others", okay.
I'm thinking dems are a lot more happy with "Achieved 85% of our goals by giving repubs the finger".
Do you think EITHER party defines "leadership" as "working together"? LOL!
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I'd say they were pretty durn effective at leading the NATION to the direction they had in mind. Obama achived a shitload of his goals...
If your idea of "effective" is "achieved 55% of his goals by working with others", okay.
I'm thinking dems are a lot more happy with "Achieved 85% of our goals by giving repubs the finger".
Do you think EITHER party defines "leadership" as "working together"? LOL!
The state of the economy, public opinion about Congress, and the November 2010 elections say otherwise. If they were effective they wouldn't have gotten trounced in November.
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No, that's the problem... Back in the day, I was proud to say I was a Republican... Hard to do that now.
I'm a guy who worries about the things that affect him on a daily basis, and that is generally taxes and spending.
I don't see a lot of difference in the parties from those two items the 8-10 years to be honest.
However, most of the time, both parties are
Republican lost half their credibility when they refused to cut spending to offset their tax cuts and started increasing the deficit(circa 1984) and lost of the rest of it when they let religious radicals take over their party. They need to start from over from the ground up and go back to their original principals of truly being fiscally conservative and staying out of peoples private lives
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The state of the economy, public opinion about Congress, and the November 2010 elections say otherwise. If they were effective they wouldn't have gotten trounced in November.
Define "effective leadership" please.
Keeping long-term control, or passing all the greedy shit they wanted to pass?
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Define "effective leadership" please.
Keeping long-term control, or passing all the greedy shit they wanted to pass?
They couldn't get anything done because all Repubs had to do was threaten to filibuster and that would shut down debate much less an actual vote on legislation
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Define "effective leadership" please.
Keeping long-term control, or passing all the greedy shit they wanted to pass?
Improving the country, inspiring confidence, setting the right example, etc. Pretty basic stuff.
The fact they passed a handful of controversial bills was not effective leadership, as the election and public opinion polls showed.
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Improving the country, inspiring confidence, setting the right example, etc. Pretty basic stuff.
The fact they passed a handful of controversial bills was not effective leadership, as the election and public opinion polls showed.
what action would you define as improving the country?
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Improving the country, inspiring confidence, setting the right example, etc. Pretty basic stuff.
The fact they passed a handful of controversial bills was not effective leadership, as the election and public opinion polls showed.
If they are true ideologues as beck and getbiggers believe - then they surely believe in socialized healthcare, govt control of finance sector, etc - as way more important than something immeasurable as "inspiring confidence" and "setting good examples".
Those sound like fairy tales. The only people who believe political parties give a rats ass about 'setting good examples" also subscribe to childish stories like the official 911 story and the earth being 6000 years old.
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If they are true ideologues as beck and getbiggers believe - then they surely believe in socialized healthcare, govt control of finance sector, etc - as way more important than something immeasurable as "inspiring confidence" and "setting good examples".
Those sound like fairy tales. The only people who believe political parties give a rats ass about 'setting good examples" also subscribe to childish stories like the official 911 story and the earth being 6000 years old.
Never said anything about true ideologues. Did you follow the 2010 elections? Do you know what the Congressional opinion polls have been the last four years? The results speak for themselves. They had an opportunity. They failed.
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Never said anything about true ideologues. Did you follow the 2010 elections? Do you know what the Congressional opinion polls have been the last four years? The results speak for themselves. They had an opportunity. They failed.
Obamacare passed. They've been trying for 50 years to get that bucket of shit thru, and they did it.
They failed on keeping the pendulum public happy? LMAO... give them 4 years of Romney or Palin and you'll have lines for a mile to put another dem into office. Pendulum, remeber? ;)
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Obamacare passed. They've been trying for 50 years to get that bucket of shit thru, and they did it.
They failed on keeping the pendulum public happy? LMAO... give them 4 years of Romney or Palin and you'll have lines for a mile to put another dem into office. Pendulum, remeber? ;)
The public was very impressed with Obamacare, and showed their appreciation in November.
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so called "Obamacare" had not even kicked in so all they heard were lies about death panels and lies about deficits
I would think that any prolifer would be very happy that 30 million uninsured american can now gain access to health insurance. These are not 30 million microscopic clusters of cells. These are fully formed human beings who will feel pain and suffer and die and now they might have a chance to live a bit longer, not suffer as much and not die or die from easily curable/treatable conditions.
Any one who cares about life has to be in favor of that
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so called "Obamacare" had not even kicked in so all they heard were lies about death panels and lies about deficits
I would think that any prolifer would be very happy that 30 million uninsured american can now gain access to health insurance. These are 30 million microscopic clusters of cells. These are fully formed human beings who will feel pain and suffer and die and now they might have a chance to live a bit longer, not suffer as much and not die or die from easily curable/treatable conditions.
Any one who cares about life has to be in favor of that
People like their wallets more than life.
This is the dilemma of the Republicans right now.
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so called "Obamacare" had not even kicked in so all they heard were lies about death panels and lies about deficits
I would think that any prolifer would be very happy that 30 million uninsured american can now gain access to health insurance. These are 30 million microscopic clusters of cells. These are fully formed human beings who will feel pain and suffer and die and now they might have a chance to live a bit longer, not suffer as much and not die or die from easily curable/treatable conditions.
Any one who cares about life has to be in favor of that
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Yeah, pointing a gun at someones head, stealing their money to pay for overprices health care as a result of corrut disgusting deals in the WH, and then congratulating ones' self over it is really admirable. ::) ::)
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Yeah, pointing a gun at someones head, stealing their money to pay for overprices health care as a result of corrut disgusting deals in the WH, and then congratulating ones' self over it is really admirable. ::) ::)
I wasn't aware anyone pointed a gun to your head
Aren't you always armed. Why didn't you shoot that person
Hey, how are you enjoying those Obama tax cuts
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Its called the mandate - REMEMBER THE ONE OBAMA WAS DEAD SET AGAINST UNTIL HE MADE HIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL FOR SELF PERSONAL REASONS?
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First you say anyone who believes in God shouldn't have a voice. Now it's anyone who believes in God, but also make a difference? Which is it?
both....you are a coward for not making a difference, and a moron for hiding behind a flying cake monster who grants wishes....
i know you arent capable of giving a resonable arguement without constantly changing subject or rattling on with what rush said and writting it off as your own thought....so i can leave it at that...
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both....you are a coward for not making a difference, and a moron for hiding behind a flying cake monster who grants wishes....
i know you arent capable of giving a resonable arguement without constantly changing subject or rattling on with what rush said and writting it off as your own thought....so i can leave it at that...
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People who believe in God should not be allowed to vote. People who believe in God should be allowed to vote if they make a difference. Got it. ::)
What subject did I change? Just following up on your incoherent comments.
And you are correct, that I "arent" capable of a "resonable arguement." :)