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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2011, 03:22:11 PM »
I'm confused by why you list this as "Left".

Sounds like a pretty conservative christian thing here... Phelps is the God hates fags guy right?

And if a person says they are conservative... They aren't?

Last I checked, it was the people themselves who determine if they are liberal or conservative.

Nah.  That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

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« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2011, 05:02:02 PM »
Nah.  That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

so most christians are not conservatives?

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« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2011, 05:19:57 PM »
Phelps isn't doing this because in the name of politics and being a Democrat, his actions are from being religious and his Christian views.

well doing this during that innocent litte girls funeral...THAT FUCKER CAN KISS MY VIEW

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« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2011, 05:22:12 PM »
i went and saw my friend julio for a mcgriddle this morning.  i gotta say it was a good day.

today seems kind of odd, no barking from the dog, no smog, and mama cook the breakfast with no hog.  ;D

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« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2011, 05:32:09 PM »
Nah.  That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

I thought you were a conservative if decided to say you were... So it seems to me that he is listing himself as a conservative, therefore he must be.

I also disagree with your statement... Most christians do consider themselves conservatives.

My assumption is not based on "all", but on "most".

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« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2011, 06:00:53 PM »
Nah.  That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...

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« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2011, 06:05:10 PM »
anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...

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Don't insult Beach like that... That's a God fearing Christian man there.

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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:40 PM »
I thought you were a conservative if decided to say you were... So it seems to me that he is listing himself as a conservative, therefore he must be.

I also disagree with your statement... Most christians do consider themselves conservatives.

My assumption is not based on "all", but on "most".

He's a Democrat. 

I didn't say most.  I said all:  "That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth." 

Most people are conservative, so it wouldn't surprise me if most Christians are conservative. 

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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2011, 06:51:53 PM »
anybody who believes in fairy tales shouldnt be allowed a voice anyways...

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Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales.   :)

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« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2011, 06:58:58 PM »
I consider myself a South Park Conservative.  I am not religious, have not been to church save for weddings or funerals in about 15 years.   However, the anti-religious zealots are far worse to me.   

As for Phelps, this man is beyond deserving a dirt nap at this point and I am surprised it has not happened so far.   

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« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2011, 07:09:32 PM »
I consider myself a South Park Conservative.  I am not religious, have not been to church save for weddings or funerals in about 15 years.   However, the anti-religious zealots are far worse to me.   

As for Phelps, this man is beyond deserving a dirt nap at this point and I am surprised it has not happened so far.   

What's a South Park Conservative? 

The paranoid anti-religious extremists really need a history lesson. 

Phelps is a scourge. 

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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2011, 07:13:59 PM »
What's a South Park Conservative? 

The paranoid anti-religious extremists really need a history lesson. 

Phelps is a scourge. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican


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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2011, 07:16:22 PM »
Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales.   :)

what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth?  ;)

of course I believe in a higher energy or power...

but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it.  Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?

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« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2011, 07:17:29 PM »
what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth?  ;)

of course I believe in a higher energy or power...

but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it.  Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?

Try loughners" logic test and see how it works out.   Ha ha ha ha. 

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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2011, 07:26:37 PM »
what % of the scientific community once believed the universe revolved around Earth?  ;)

of course I believe in a higher energy or power...

but I have to disagree with your point that a belief is valid because the majority buy into it.  Was slavery "right", because the majority of Americans may have once supported it, BB?

lol.  No, you don't get to make up your own facts and ask me to debate them. 

If you're trying to follow along, bench essentially said people who believe in God shouldn't be allowed to vote.  I pointed out that the overwhelming majority of the country believes in God.  If you disagree, more power to you.   

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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2011, 07:27:56 PM »
Try loughners" logic test and see how it works out.   Ha ha ha ha. 

He's too busy trying to link him to Palin. 

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« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2011, 07:28:42 PM »
lol.  No, you don't get to make up your own facts and ask me to debate them.  

If you're trying to follow along, bench essentially said people who believe in God shouldn't be allowed to vote.  I pointed out that the overwhelming majority of the country believes in God.  If you disagree, more power to you.  

fair enough

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« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2011, 08:50:22 PM »
Except the overwhelming majority of the country believes in fairy tales.   :)
which explains the shit shape we are in ;)  thanks for playing Jr...

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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2011, 11:44:13 PM »
He's a Democrat. 

I didn't say most.  I said all:  "That assumes all Christians are conservatives.  Nothing could be further from the truth." 

Most people are conservative, so it wouldn't surprise me if most Christians are conservative. 

Democrats can't be conservative?

He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.

So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.

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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2011, 01:48:01 AM »
it is also... see youre playing the left wing right wing shit right now.. just wont let it go.. shit is wild.. makes me embarrassed to be American sometimes.. this is how my countrymen act in a tragedy.. start point finger at political parties for a leg up in the rhetoric.. wtf is that.. like it seriously disgusts me

Careful... a very similar comment opened up a world of hurt for the Dixie Chicks a few years ago.  :-\
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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2011, 05:23:10 AM »
Democrats can't be conservative?

He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.

So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.

I guess one is allowed to make up their own definition of what another person is when is suits their agenda eh?

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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2011, 09:39:58 AM »
which explains the shit shape we are in ;)  thanks for playing Jr...

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Yeah.  Maybe if people were more like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, James Madison, George Washington, etc., things wouldn't be so bad. 

But they all believed in God too.   :)

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Re: Fred Phelps and Westboro church plan to protest at young victim's funeral.
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2011, 09:41:24 AM »
Democrats can't be conservative?

He says he's not liberal, which is the democrat stance right? I mean, you've called them "liberals" for the past 2 years.

So he's either a liberal, which he says he's not, or he's a conservative, which you say he's not... I'm kinda gonna have to go with him, since he's the one defining what he is.

Yes there are conservative Democrats. 

I've called who liberals the past two years? 

Who said he's not a liberal?  Besides you.  Where did he define himself as a conservative? 

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« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2011, 09:44:25 AM »
Yes there are conservative Democrats. 

I've called who liberals the past two years? 

Who said he's not a liberal?  Besides you.  Where did he define himself as a conservative? 

There are conservative democrats for sure. There used to be a lot. Too bad the party has been hijacked by extremists like Pelosi and Reid and now moderate Dems are vilified for being "too right-wing".