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Title: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 09, 2011, 11:43:19 PM
at mr. olympia 2001 ronnie really looked very bad.. may be his shittiest shape after becoming mr. olympia!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 09, 2011, 11:44:51 PM
also his great biceps looked very small and not full that year!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 09, 2011, 11:47:48 PM
didnt deserve to win of course and imo didnt deserve to be even 2nd!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: spude on January 10, 2011, 12:01:22 AM
From waist up kev could have taken if not his then at least 2002 o, IMO...then only prob is bro fucked up his lower back and therefore couldn't train his legs the way he used to anymore...i honestly think levrone had great wheels in 95-98...
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: disco_stu on January 10, 2011, 12:04:28 AM
From waist up kev could have taken if not his then at least 2002 o, IMO...then only prob is bro fucked up his lower back and therefore couldn't train his legs the way he used to anymore...i honestly think levrone had great wheels in 95-98...

levrone had the physique that shouldve been crowned mr.o in the 1990s.

but as we all know, its not about building an amazing, beautiful body..its about building stacks of mass and being larger and more ripped than your opponent.

physique judging has been all wrong for at least 23 years now...they got it right for 2 years, one ronnie victory, and one dexter victory.

even then they got most of the placings wrong anyway.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 12:10:21 AM
levrone had the physique that shouldve been crowned mr.o in the 1990s.

but as we all know, its not about building an amazing, beautiful body..its about building stacks of mass and being larger and more ripped than your opponent.

physique judging has been all wrong for at least 23 years now...they got it right for 2 years, one ronnie victory, and one dexter victory.

even then they got most of the placings wrong anyway.


i agree to some extent but still if what you are saying is right markus would have been mr. olympia!!..

imo lee haney deserved all his olympia victories.. dorian deserved 3 or 4 (if we add 94),.. ronnie didn't deserve to win at least 3 times of his olympia wins.. jay didnt deserve to win in 2007 for sure!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: spude on January 10, 2011, 12:38:46 AM
You guys are forgetting shawnie my man!!! 94, maybe 97, brah looked incredible in 99 too...but that was ronnie's year for sure...
what about richie g, he would have taken one from lee h... 8)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 01:02:21 AM
You guys are forgetting shawnie my man!!! 94, maybe 97, brah looked incredible in 99 too...but that was ronnie's year for sure...
what about richie g, he would have taken one from lee h... 8)

as great as rich gaspari and labrada were haney always owned them in a dominant way even when he was not at his best!!.. the most controversial victory in haney's career was mr. olympia 1990 but when i saw the video i found him still better than all the others and it was not even close imo!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: spude on January 10, 2011, 01:13:19 AM
but what about shawnie...???
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 01:16:37 AM
but what about shawnie...???

ray was a great bb but imo he was totally owned in certain shots by bigger bbs!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: spude on January 10, 2011, 01:25:13 AM
ray was a great bb but imo he was totally owned in certain shots by bigger bbs!!..

Ok, got it bro...what about Nasser the Great.. 8)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 01:28:15 AM
Ok, got it bro...what about Nasser the Great.. 8)

nasser the great was mistaken only when he decided to compete over 260 pounds!!.. at 260 pound his back couldn't be considered a weak point.. check his shape at the NOC 95,.. he presented one of the best and most complete physiques ever on that day!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 10, 2011, 01:39:34 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Parker on January 10, 2011, 01:41:36 AM
at mr. olympia 2001 ronnie really looked very bad.. may be his shittiest shape after becoming mr. olympia!!..
I see a X-mas tree, Kev doesn't have that...
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 01:43:10 AM
8)

looks like a tortoise ;D
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 01:45:32 AM
I see a X-mas tree, Kev doesn't have that...

so you noticed this hardly seen x-mas tree on ronnie's back but you didnt notice how levrone's back over wall was harder, wider, and, more detailed??..  ::)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: closeline on January 10, 2011, 02:52:02 AM
LOL

ronnie was far ahead of the other competitors

he ownes levrone in upperbody AND Levrone forgot his legs in hotel room
levrone should have been 2nd, because being a fridge is not cool
EVERY EXPERT CAN SEE IT (only i-net BB don t)

Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 10, 2011, 02:55:54 AM
at mr. olympia 2001 ronnie really looked very bad.. may be his shittiest shape after becoming mr. olympia!!..

  Levrone is definitely owning Coleman there. Better back width with much better mid-back development.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Nirvana on January 10, 2011, 06:11:44 AM
LOL

ronnie was far ahead of the other competitors

he ownes levrone in upperbody AND Levrone forgot his legs in hotel room
levrone should have been 2nd, because being a fridge is not cool
EVERY EXPERT CAN SEE IT (only i-net BB don t)


agreed.

coleman not on his best day is still good enough.  he wasn't honestly that bad.

just because he was not in his best condition ever, and jay cutler was, doesn't mean he sucked.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 06:50:06 AM
LOL

ronnie was far ahead of the other competitors

he ownes levrone in upperbody AND Levrone forgot his legs in hotel room
levrone should have been 2nd, because being a fridge is not cool
EVERY EXPERT CAN SEE IT (only i-net BB don t)



it's funny to say this while posting only back shots of ronnie!!.. yes at his best he was overall better than these guys at their best but in 2001 he was far away from his best!!.. his back too was far away from its best but still was better than the others backs simply because the guy had one of the best backs ever!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Nirvana on January 10, 2011, 06:53:58 AM
it's funny to say this while posting only back shots of ronnie!!.. yes at his best he was overall better than these guys at their best but in 2001 he was far away from his best!!.. his back too was far away from its best but still was better than the others backs simply because the guy had one of the best backs ever!!..
you posted a back shot of ronnie
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 07:28:42 AM
you posted a back shot of ronnie

no i posted a back shot as well as front shots (check my 2nd and 3rd posts)!!.. i was trying to say that even his great back was not good (relatively) on that day.. sure at his best or close to his best ronnie's RLS was much better than levrone's.. on that day IMO ronnie  owned them all only in the RDB pose!!.. the side chest was close.. but jay was better and more complete in the FDB, FLS, ST, A&T..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: kiwiol on January 10, 2011, 07:31:36 AM
at mr. olympia 2001 ronnie really looked very bad.. may be his shittiest shape after becoming mr. olympia!!..

He was actually a lot worse in 2002, which was his worst showing ever, IMO.

Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Big Worm on January 10, 2011, 07:33:09 AM
no i posted a back shot as well as front shots (check my 2nd and 3rd posts)!!.. i was trying to say that even his great back was not good (relatively) on that day.. sure at his best or close to his best ronnie's RLS was much better than levrone's.. on that day IMO ronnie  owned them all only in the RDB pose!!.. the side chest was close.. but jay was better and more complete in the FDB, FLS, ST, A&T..
You're a Ronnie hater .. Nassoil Sucks! Deal with it...!
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 08:11:51 AM
You're a Ronnie hater .. Nassoil Sucks! Deal with it...!

i am not a big fan of his physique because for me it doesn't go well together (as a whole).. he has great parts for sure and his back, biceps, and shoulders are from the best ever but still his weak points affect the whole thing!!.. still i agree with some of his wins like in 98, 99, and, 2003..

who mentioned nasser now you piece of filth??.. try to get him out of your stupid mind for one single day ::)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Jaime on January 10, 2011, 08:13:39 AM
I would much rather look like Kev than Ronnie, juiced up that is he looked like shit when he went off.

They have been rewarding the wrong physiques for donkeys years.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Lion666 on January 10, 2011, 11:00:40 AM
  Levrone is definitely owning Coleman there. Better back width with much better mid-back development.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

not sure its actually width,,, maybe bc his lats are higher they look wider,,, ronnie's insert lower to the waist make them look dif,,, example take a guy thats 5'10 120lbs now take the same guy and add 100lbs of muscle to frame and big shldrs he now looks shorter...
maybe its me nut i think judges got it rite,ron 1st jay was 2nd,,, it was close between them jay had ab thi but ron had everythng else.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Earl1972 on January 10, 2011, 11:02:03 AM
Mr. Levrone

i miss you :'( :'(

E
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Lion666 on January 10, 2011, 11:04:35 AM
agreed.

coleman not on his best day is still good enough.  he wasn't honestly that bad.

just because he was not in his best condition ever, and jay cutler was, doesn't mean he sucked.

how demoralizing that has to b,,, not only do u have to b better than ur best,,, your opponent still doesnt hav to be at his best to beat u,,, lol to b able to come in off ur game whn everyone else is on or beyond theirs and still mop em up,,, thats an imprssv champ waxn ass yr aftr yr
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: disco_stu on January 10, 2011, 12:25:30 PM
i agree to some extent but still if what you are saying is right markus would have been mr. olympia!!..

imo lee haney deserved all his olympia victories.. dorian deserved 3 or 4 (if we add 94),.. ronnie didn't deserve to win at least 3 times of his olympia wins.. jay didnt deserve to win in 2007 for sure!!..

yes, well, i assumed that readers would put my comment into context for what it was, not blind literal interpretation.

labrada had haney and yates beat in 1990.
i wouldve been happy either way if gaspari was awarded one victory.

Shawn Ray didnt deserve to win any. Even in his best years, there were one or two guys better than him without doubt- and thats using the "proper" judging criteria.

I never did see the attraction in Shawns blocky quads, horrible FDB (no arms and disappearing chest), and mediocre FLS. He looked great in rear double bi, and good in abs and quads, and was mostly well conditioned...and in certain poses looked like a world beater. But his weaknesses held him back. LL was definitely a better bodybuilder and from memory beat him almost every time they competed.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Big Worm on January 10, 2011, 12:39:36 PM
i am not a big fan of his physique because for me it doesn't go well together (as a whole).. he has great parts for sure and his back, biceps, and shoulders are from the best ever but still his weak points affect the whole thing!!.. still i agree with some of his wins like in 98, 99, and, 2003..

who mentioned nasser now you piece of filth??.. try to get him out of your stupid mind for one single day ::)
You always in some way shape or form, mention that drug addict loser.. You fuckin bum..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: dr.chimps on January 10, 2011, 01:03:41 PM
You always in some way shape or form, mention that drug addict loser.. You fuckin bum..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 10, 2011, 01:10:21 PM

;D Ha classic.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Fatpanda on January 10, 2011, 01:13:39 PM
another classic classy thread by a classic classy getbigger  8)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: caseyviator on January 10, 2011, 01:36:23 PM
  Levrone is definitely owning Coleman there. Better back width with much better mid-back development.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

whhhhaaat  r u serious or is this a joke  kevin isnt in the same league of ron...ron blows him away, no problem

how can you say this???
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Hulkster on January 10, 2011, 01:44:07 PM
ronnie always owned levrone
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 10, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
LOL

ronnie was far ahead of the other competitors

he ownes levrone in upperbody AND Levrone forgot his legs in hotel room
levrone should have been 2nd, because being a fridge is not cool
EVERY EXPERT CAN SEE IT (only i-net BB don t)



agreed...

coleman won 2001

jay had him on quad seperation and abs thats it..
coleman rounder fuller and 100% better muscle shape....
no contest
coleman clearly won
jay came in in the contest in the shape of his life yes was he better than colemn
no
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Hulkster on January 10, 2011, 01:51:36 PM
ouch
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 10, 2011, 01:57:37 PM
not sure its actually width,,, maybe bc his lats are higher they look wider,,, ronnie's insert lower to the waist make them look dif,,, example take a guy thats 5'10 120lbs now take the same guy and add 100lbs of muscle to frame and big shldrs he now looks shorter...
maybe its me nut i think judges got it rite,ron 1st jay was 2nd,,, it was close between them jay had ab thi but ron had everythng else.

exactly ab s and quad seperaation jay one...
ronnie ruled everywhere else
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Jaime on January 10, 2011, 02:33:24 PM
ouch


Flex is winning that shot...
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 10, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
also his great biceps looked very small and not full that year!!..

Jay has em both from the front, no doubt.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 10, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
not sure its actually width,,, maybe bc his lats are higher they look wider,,, ronnie's insert lower to the waist make them look dif,,, example take a guy thats 5'10 120lbs now take the same guy and add 100lbs of muscle to frame and big shldrs he now looks shorter...
maybe its me nut i think judges got it rite,ron 1st jay was 2nd,,, it was close between them jay had ab thi but ron had everythng else.

  Actually, Coleman's lats are pretty high. Guys with low lats are Orville Burk, Markus Ruhl, Jean-Pierre Fux, Joel Stubbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 10, 2011, 02:48:31 PM

Flex is winning that shot...

With what calve implants?
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
yes, well, i assumed that readers would put my comment into context for what it was, not blind literal interpretation.

labrada had haney and yates beat in 1990.
i wouldve been happy either way if gaspari was awarded one victory.

Shawn Ray didnt deserve to win any. Even in his best years, there were one or two guys better than him without doubt- and thats using the "proper" judging criteria.

I never did see the attraction in Shawns blocky quads, horrible FDB (no arms and disappearing chest), and mediocre FLS. He looked great in rear double bi, and good in abs and quads, and was mostly well conditioned...and in certain poses looked like a world beater. But his weaknesses held him back. LL was definitely a better bodybuilder and from memory beat him almost every time they competed.

yates didnt compete at the olympia in 90!!..

ray beat labrada in 1993..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 10, 2011, 03:35:06 PM
ouch

why are you posting shots from 99!!.. 2001 is the subject of the thread.. sure ronnie dominated the stage in 99!!..
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 10, 2011, 05:03:28 PM
  Actually, Coleman's lats are pretty high. Guys with low lats are Orville Burk, Markus Ruhl, Jean-Pierre Fux, Joel Stubbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Coleman lats are high????
And Orville lats are low

You must be blind...
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: TRIX on January 10, 2011, 05:20:24 PM
2001
(http://www.naturalolympia.com/html/images/olympia_contest_pose.gif)

thickness and leg difference + miles better back

levrone never stood a chance against coleman, maybe dorian

2000
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2000/mro2000_top6-01.jpg)

even standing behind kevin ronnies chest and legs are bigger

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2000/8.jpg)
1998 (http://forum.steelfactor.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=150034)(http://forum.steelfactor.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=150036)

Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 10, 2011, 06:39:15 PM
2001
(http://www.naturalolympia.com/html/images/olympia_contest_pose.gif)

thickness and leg difference + miles better back

levrone never stood a chance against coleman, maybe dorian

2000
(http://www.ilovespam.com/mrolympia2000/mro2000_top6-01.jpg)

even standing behind kevin ronnies chest and legs are bigger

(http://www.ilovespam.com/mrolympia2000/8.jpg)
1998 (http://forum.steelfactor.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=150034)(http://forum.steelfactor.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=150036)



Is bodybuilding about the more pleasing aesthetic god like physique, or the freaky veiny giant X man?
You seem to only give a shit about size and thats not all bodybuilding is about.
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: TRIX on January 10, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
So lets give the olympia title to someone you want to jerk off to? So muscle and condition doesnt count. Oh brother
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 10, 2011, 08:09:51 PM
So lets give the olympia title to someone you want to jerk off to? So muscle and condition doesnt count. Oh brother

So does Branch Warren has a desirable physique to you? He places high and is very popular, now why is that boy?!
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: SomeKindofMonster on January 11, 2011, 12:02:38 AM
agreed...

coleman won 2001

jay had him on quad seperation and abs thats it..
coleman rounder fuller and 100% better muscle shape....
no contest
coleman clearly won
jay came in in the contest in the shape of his life yes was he better than colemn
no

Go to 2:40 of this video which has Jay, Ronnie, and Kevin at prejudging.
It's pretty obvious who dominates.
Ronnie was coming off his 2001 ASC form and they judged Ronnie
harsher because of this. If Ronnie should have lost rounds it should have been
the posing round but not prejudging.
It looks like whoever posted this filmed it off his TV but it is the only footage from 2001
with both Jay Ronnie and Kevin.





Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: Harry Spotter on January 11, 2011, 03:53:54 AM
Coleman lats are high????
And Orville lats are low

You must be blind...

Yes, and to SMM, Stubbs? While he has without any doubt one of the more incredible backs, he hardly has what could be considered low lat insertions
(http://www.videosdeculturismo.com/images/joel-stubbs.jpg)
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: kiwiol on January 11, 2011, 06:29:04 AM
Go to 2:40 of this video which has Jay, Ronnie, and Kevin at prejudging.
It's pretty obvious who dominates.
Ronnie was coming off his 2001 ASC form and they judged Ronnie
harsher because of this. If Ronnie should have lost rounds it should have been
the posing round but not prejudging.
It looks like whoever posted this filmed it off his TV but it is the only footage from 2001
with both Jay Ronnie and Kevin.



Ronnie's bloated, but still destroys Jay and KLo in that clip
Title: Re: Levrone Owns Coleman in this Back Shot!!..
Post by: JP_RC on January 11, 2011, 06:34:23 AM
yes, well, i assumed that readers would put my comment into context for what it was, not blind literal interpretation.

labrada had haney and yates beat in 1990.
i wouldve been happy either way if gaspari was awarded one victory.

Shawn Ray didnt deserve to win any. Even in his best years, there were one or two guys better than him without doubt- and thats using the "proper" judging criteria.

I never did see the attraction in Shawns blocky quads, horrible FDB (no arms and disappearing chest), and mediocre FLS. He looked great in rear double bi, and good in abs and quads, and was mostly well conditioned...and in certain poses looked like a world beater. But his weaknesses held him back. LL was definitely a better bodybuilder and from memory beat him almost every time they competed.

Dorian did not compete in the 1990 Olympia.

Hope this helps.