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POLITICO
By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 1/13/11 7:06 AM EST
Death threats against Sarah Palin have reached an unprecedented level in recent days, an aide says.
In the wake of Saturday’s shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others, the aide said that threats against Palin have spiked, ABC News reported.
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The aide did not offer further details on the threats or whether Palin has taken additional security precautions.
Palin’s use of gun-related language and imagery, including a map that marked Giffords’ district with crosshairs, have provoked debate about national political discourse, even as evidence mounts that alleged gunman Jared Lee Loughner was driven by inner demons and his personal sentiments about the congresswoman.
Palin on Wednesday condemned journalists and pundits for “manufactur[ing] a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn.”
A video posted on YouTube earlier this week – and since removed – featured a collection of threats made against Palin on Twitter since the shooting.
“Can somebody please shoot Sarah Palin,” read one. Another said: “Ugh! All the wrong people get shot. Why doesn’t this kind of thing happen at a Sarah Palin event?”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47547.html#ixzz1AvXeuR8l
don't worry violent language and symbles are harmless, right palin
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If you had an ounce of intelligence, you would see how utterly ridiculous yur post is, but I won't hold my breath waiting for you to wake up from your coma.
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Sandra Bernhard issues 'gang rape' warning to Sarah Palin
NY Daily News ^ | 9/19/2008 | Tracy Miller
Sandra Bernhard issued a blistering warning to Sarah Palin during a performance of her new one-woman show.
The Republican V.P. nom would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan, Bernhard said. Palin is said to be making a campaign stop in New York next week.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
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don't worry about it words have no consequences. that's what the right says ;)
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don't worry about it words have no consequences. that's what the right says ;)
what consequences have palins words had blacken?
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we don't know
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Sounds like to many wing nuts have access too to much technology
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we don't know
then why even post a thread about palin?
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because now she is worried that words have consequences,but when she says stupid things it's alright
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we don't know
Yes we do asshole, and even Bama said so.
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because now she is worried that words have consequences,but when she says stupid things it's alright
lol fuking what?
so we have no reason to believe that her words have had any consequences but now she knows that they do have consequences?
seriously?
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he said the politically right thing. but you or i don't really know what was going on in that crazy mans mind
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he said the politically right thing. but you or i don't really know what was going on in that crazy mans mind
I AGREE SO AGAIN WHY BRING UP PALIN?
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lol fuking what?
so we have no reason to believe that her words have had any consequences but now she knows that they do have consequences?
seriously?
she's the one worried about the threats,so obviously she does believe it
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So if something were to happen to Palin, do we get to blame the media, after all words have consequences.
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she's the one worried about the threats,so obviously she does believe it
right but seeing as the shooting has nothing to do with palin, it isnt her words that have consequences...
its the idiocy of the ppl making the threats when she had nothing to do with the shooting...
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right but seeing as the shooting has nothing to do with palin, it isnt her words that have consequences...
its the idiocy of the ppl making the threats when she had nothing to do with the shooting...
we really don't know that, theirs not a person here that knows what was going on in his head
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we really don't know that, theirs not a person here that knows what was going on in his head
::) ::)
Have you read anything on this besides the crap at DU?
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probably read every thing you did, still say he's the only one that knows why he did it and as far as i know hes not talking
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probably read every thing you did, still say he's the only one that knows why he did it and as far as i know hes not talking
So according t you than I can blame Obama/Pelosi for this just as much correct?
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we really don't know that, theirs not a person here that knows what was going on in his head
agreed, but seeing as there is no proof that palin has anything to do with the shooter
why bring her up in relation to the shooting blacken?
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Terrible news. Obama said it best - we need to not divide but combine in the wake of this tragedy.
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Sandra Bernhard issues 'gang rape' warning to Sarah Palin
NY Daily News ^ | 9/19/2008 | Tracy Miller
Sandra Bernhard issued a blistering warning to Sarah Palin during a performance of her new one-woman show.
The Republican V.P. nom would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan, Bernhard said. Palin is said to be making a campaign stop in New York next week.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
Hmmm. Funny how many of the mentally diseased pose as comedian/s entertainers these days.
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Terrible news. Obama said it best - we need to not divide but combine in the wake of this tragedy.
Yeah, we need to do that now after the entire left and and media accused palin and the tea party of murder. Got it.
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Yes we do asshole, and even Bama said so.
Roll Tide.
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Yeah, we need to do that now after the entire left and and media accused palin and the tea party of murder. Got it.
Entire left? Ha! give me a break. Once again you embellish and lie. By the way how's that 50% increase due to Obama care going? remember when you lied about the letter and mal called you on it? I do. Just another lie from you 333. Keep it up you'll be a politician in no time!
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Entire left? Ha! give me a break. Once again you embellish and lie. By the way how's that 50% increase due to Obama care going? remember when you lied about the letter and mal called you on it? I do. Just another lie from you 333. Keep it up you'll be a politician in no time!
How did I lie about it? The people in CT, Cali, and other states are getting the same rate increases due to ObamaCare.
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How did I lie about it? The people in CT, Cali, and other states are getting the same rate increases due to ObamaCare.
Show us the letter you got where it says "increase by 50% due to obamacare"? You can not because it is not true!
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Show us the letter you got where it says "increase by 50% due to obamacare"? You can not because it is not true!
Yeah, cause that is exactly what the carriers are going to claim after the directr of HHS threatened them. ::) ::)
Please - I will bump the threads proving my point.
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Sandra Bernhard issues 'gang rape' warning to Sarah Palin
NY Daily News ^ | 9/19/2008 | Tracy Miller
Sandra Bernhard issued a blistering warning to Sarah Palin during a performance of her new one-woman show.
The Republican V.P. nom would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan, Bernhard said. Palin is said to be making a campaign stop in New York next week.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
This piece of shit Dyke Commie's big claim to fame is that she once licked Madonna's twat.
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Anti-Palin Posters Appear in SF
NBC Bay Area ^ | Jan 13, 2011 | RJ MIDDLETON
Despite President Obama's speech about healing, shared responsibility and shared pain, conservative pundit Sarah Palin is plastered, unflatteringly, along one San Francisco street (so far).
The posters -- found and publisehd by SFist.com -- espouse "Enrage them with fear until they feel justified in their violence."
Granted, Palin has brought even more spotlight on herself with a recent diatribe against "irresponsible journalists."
Maybe the president's message stressing the strength of our words and how we use them will stick ... like a poster to a wall.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=362272.0;attach=397644)
Cool poster. I wonder if I can get one on EBay. I bet I can sell it for several times what I pay in a few years.
I like how wide open her mouth is. :)
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I hope its not liberals that are sending threats cause only republicans and tea party goers revert to violence now !! Remember?
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lol, I think she's supposed to look like a crazy woman in the poster, but she looks kind of hot. And she's wearing a PEARL NECKLACE. :)
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yup sure seems like nobody is blaming palin, right straw, blacken, 240?
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tony,
please link where I blamed palin?
I said 10 or 15 times "we cant jump to conclusions"/
Where did I blame her? Some others did. I did not.
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tony,
please link where I blamed palin?
I said 10 or 15 times "we cant jump to conclusions"/
Where did I blame her? Some others did. I did not.
and right before or after that you brought up palin... ::)
do you deny that others have blamed palin?
straw man is in denail that ANYBODY has blamed palin...
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and right before or after that you brought up palin... ::)
yes. It's newsworthy when a congresswoman is shot in the head, and she is on a target list by a presidential potential from teh other party. If Hilary had such a list, and some repub senator got capped, you bet it'd be news. If you don't think it's newsworthy, please call up everyone from FOX to MSN and everyone in between and let them know. it was all over the news, and a popular topic worldwide on message boards.
do you deny that others have blamed palin?
Of COURSE others have blamed Palin - and wrongfully so. She wasn't connected.
I like political analysis, and in this case, Palin's biggest strength in 2010- shooting up machine guns, using shitloads of target/reload imagery, and claiming victory as a result - ended up being her biggest deficit in 2012. People will look at this 50 years from now in history class, and see this month as the one Palin went from the one to beat obama, to out of the running. The 2012 presidential result probably just changed. Obama's probably SICk abuot the fact he won't be running against palin now.
So tony, of COURSE a shitload of people blamed Palin. I was not one of them. People can say "but you hinted...." and "I see what you're doing here..." and I'm sorry you feel that way. It was the top news story - congressman on palin's target list gets shot in head. Sorry if I engaged in discussion about the top news story of the year. But I never blamed palin - I went overboard blaming nutjobs for the suicide scrawled census worker, and I admit it. I have worked hard NOT to jump to conclusions since then, and I think most getbiggers see that. I used to jump to conclusions all the damn time :) Not anymore.
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yes. It's newsworthy when a congresswoman is shot in the head, and she is on a target list by a presidential potential from teh other party. If Hilary had such a list, and some repub senator got capped, you bet it'd be news. If you don't think it's newsworthy, please call up everyone from FOX to MSN and everyone in between and let them know. it was all over the news, and a popular topic worldwide on message boards.
Of COURSE others have blamed Palin - and wrongfully so. She wasn't connected.
I like political analysis, and in this case, Palin's biggest strength in 2010- shooting up machine guns, using shitloads of target/reload imagery, and claiming victory as a result - ended up being her biggest deficit in 2012. People will look at this 50 years from now in history class, and see this month as the one Palin went from the one to beat obama, to out of the running. The 2012 presidential result probably just changed. Obama's probably SICk abuot the fact he won't be running against palin now.
So tony, of COURSE a shitload of people blamed Palin. I was not one of them. People can say "but you hinted...." and "I see what you're doing here..." and I'm sorry you feel that way. It was the top news story - congressman on palin's target list gets shot in head. Sorry if I engaged in discussion about the top news story of the year. But I never blamed palin - I went overboard blaming nutjobs for the suicide scrawled census worker, and I admit it. I have worked hard NOT to jump to conclusions since then, and I think most getbiggers see that. I used to jump to conclusions all the damn time :) Not anymore.
lol bro you did nothing but speculate from moment one...
constantly bringing up palin...it could have just as likely been a comment from obama or pelosi that potentially sent this kid over the top...but you constantly injected palin...
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lol bro you did nothing but speculate from moment one...
constantly bringing up palin...it could have just as likely been a comment from obama or pelosi that potentially sent this kid over the top...but you constantly injected palin...
it was the top news story. and yes, speculation happens all the time when assassinations happen. We're still speculating 50 years after JFK was shot.
Do you feel speculation should be banned in discussion here, Tony?
Or rather - are you finally seeing that speculation and ASSIGNING BLAME are two different things?
I never blamed Palin. I think her chart was tasteless, horrible, and dangerous. but I never said "She caused this dude". Lots of others did, and i know i get painted as a liberal here and blamed for everything, but really, I don't blame her for this. I blame her for creating hate and capitalizing on anger and people who have a thirst for blood or civil war 2 or whatever.
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lol bro you did nothing but speculate from moment one...
constantly bringing up palin...it could have just as likely been a comment from obama or pelosi that potentially sent this kid over the top...but you constantly injected palin...
240's eating crow over it and now trying to save face instead of owning up to it like a man. Now he's writing up these 500 word diatribes on how he wasn't implying anything at all. People who aren't implying anything don't mention Palin's list in every. single. post. ::)
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Oh Please 24 - spare us the phoney outrage.
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Looks like MonsVenus found the quote button.
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yes, she's the top 2012 GOp frontfunner. Yes, i think she will steal obama another 4 years. yes, she's a very fun topic for discussion, whether you love or can't stand her.
I didn't blame her though, dude. It was the top news story of the year and she connected herself to it.
Besides - I interject Palin into just about every topic on damn near every thread. :) Just like 333386. She looks like shit on this topic, but not for causing it.
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yes, she's the top 2012 GOp frontfunner. Yes, i think she will steal obama another 4 years. yes, she's a very fun topic for discussion, whether you love or can't stand her.
I didn't blame her though, dude. It was the top news story of the year and she connected herself to it.
Besides - I interject Palin into just about every topic on damn near every thread. :) Just like 333386. She looks like shit on this topic, but not for causing it.
From a little over 60 minutes after the shooting you did nothing but insinuate that Palin was responsible for it in every single post. You weren't just throwing out there. You were backhandedly implicating her for it.
This was before the gunman was even ID'd. It was just a classless move and pretty scumbagish of you to exploit the death of a child to further a political agenda.
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Oh Please 24 - spare us the phoney outrage.
i was an a-hole to blame the far-right for the suicided census worker. I've worked to avoid jumping to conclusions since then.
i still believe palin is F.O.S. when it comes to the whole "My water broke at 5 am, and i waited all day, gave a speech, and took 2 plane rides and a 45 minute car ride before giving birth to a 7 month premature child, my 5th". I think she's a bold faced liar - or a horrible decision maker.
But on this topic, aside from manipulating fears to gain votes, donations, ratings, and 2012 momentum, she is blameless in this situation, as much as the left media hates it.
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From a little over 60 minutes after the shooting you did nothing but insinuate that Palin was responsible for it in every single post. You weren't just throwing out there. You were backhandedly implicating her for it.
Did I personally believe it could be related? Sure.
Did I say "It's her fault, yall!!!!!!!!" Nope.
I didn't want to be that irresponsible. Again.
So yeah, I'm a lib, i'm an asshole, i'm a twat... but I didn't want to be the guy who said "It's Palin's fault!" on this one.
And it was HISTORy, berserk. Speculation is what everyone does when there's an assassination. I'm sorry if I came across as blaming her. I kept repeating "Don't jump to conclusions!" and I thought people would see that.
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Looks like MonsVenus found the quote button.
;D ;D ;D
NT do you believe palin is to blame for the shootings in arizona?
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Looks like MonsVenus found the quote button.
Good grief. I guess if I had actually looked at the Dow thread more than a few times I would have figured out NT = Mons Venus.
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Wow. How ironic. The media may very well become responsible for the very things that they accuse Sarah Palin for. Do you guys realize that if Sarah Palin is assassinated, Blacken will have blood on his hands?
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dumb comment,but thats what i would expect from a far right nut ;D
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November 24, 2009
The Wilding of Sarah Palin
By Robin of Berkeley
When I was in college, I read a book that changed my life. It was Susan Brownmiller's tome, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape, which explained rape as an act of power instead of just lust. What I found particularly chilling was the chapter on war -- how rape is used to terrorize a population and destroy the enemy's spirit.
While edifying, the book magnified the vulnerability I already felt as a female. Fear of rape became a constant dread, and I sought a solution that would help shield me from danger.
The answer: seek safe harbor within the Democratic Party. I even became an activist for feminist causes, including violence against women. Liberalism would protect me from the big, bad conservatives who wished me harm.
Like for most feminists, it was a no-brainer for me to become a Democrat. Liberal men, not conservatives, were the ones devoted to women's issues. They marched at my side in support of abortion rights. They were enthusiastic about women succeeding in the workplace.
As time went on, I had many experiences that should have made me rethink my certainty. But I remained nestled in cognitive dissonance -- therapy jargon for not wanting to see what I didn't want to see.
One clue: the miscreants who were brutalizing me didn't exactly look Reagan-esque. In middle and high schools, they were minority kids enraged about forced busing. On the streets of New York City and Berkeley, they were derelicts and hoodlums.
Another red flag: while liberal men did indeed hold up those picket signs, they didn't do anything else to protect me. In fact, their social programs enabled bad behavior and bred chaos in urban America. And when I was accosted by thugs, those leftist men were missing in action.
What else should have tipped me off? Perhaps the fact that so many men in ultra-left Berkeley are sleazebags. Rarely a week goes by that I don't hear stories from my young female clients about middle-aged men preying on them. With the rationale of moral relativism, these creeps feel they can do anything they please.
What finally woke me up were the utterances of "bitch," "witch," and "monster" toward Hillary Clinton and her supporters early last year. I was shocked into reality: the trash-talk wasn't coming from conservatives, but from male and female liberals.
I finally beheld what my eyes had refused to see: that leftists are Mr. and Ms. Misogyny. Neither the males nor the females care a whit about women.
Women are continually sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. If under radical Islam women are enshrouded and stoned and beheaded, so be it.
My other epiphanies: those ponytailed guys were marching for abortion rights not because they cherished women's reproductive freedom, but to keep women available for free and easy sex.
And the eagerness for women to make good money? If women work hard, leftist men don't have to.
Then along came Sarah, and the attacks became particularly heinous. And I realized something even more chilling about the Left. Leftists not only sacrifice and disrespect women, but it's far worse: many are perpetuators.
The Left's behavior towards Palin is not politics as usual. By their laser-focus on her body and her sexuality, leftists are defiling her.
They are wilding her. And they do this with the full knowledge and complicity of the White House.
The Left has declared war on Palin because she threatens their existence. Liberals need women dependent and scared so that women, like blacks, will vote Democrat.
A strong, self-sufficient woman, Palin eschews liberal protection. Drop her off in the Alaskan bush and she'll survive just fine, thank you very much. Palin doesn't need or want anything from liberals -- not hate crimes legislation that coddles her, and not abortion, which she abhors.
Palin is a woman of deep and abiding faith. She takes no marching orders from messiah-like wannabes like Obama.
And so the Left must try to destroy her. And they are doing this in the most malicious of ways: by symbolically raping her.
Just like a perpetuator, they dehumanize her by objectifying her body. They undress her with their eyes.
They turn her into a piece of ass.
Liberals do this by calling her a c__t, ogling her legs, demeaning her with names like "slutty flight attendant" and "Trailer Park Barbie," and exposing her flesh on the cover of Newsweek.
Nothing is off-limits, not actress Sandra Bernhard's wish that Palin be gang-raped or the sexualization of Palin's daughters.
As every woman knows, leering looks, lurid words, and veiled threats are intended to evoke terror. Sexual violence is a form of terrorism.
The American Left has a long history of defiling people to control and break them. The hard core '60s leftists were masters of guerrilla warfare, like the Symbionese Liberation Army repeatedly raping Patty Hearst. Huey P. Newton sent a male Black Panther to the hospital, bloodied and damaged from a punishment of sodomy.
The extreme Left still consider themselves warriors, righteous soldiers for their Marxist cause. With Palin, they use sexual violence as part of their military arsenal.
Palin is not the only intended victim. As Against Our Will described, the brutality is also aimed at men. By forcing men to witness Palin's violation, the Left tries to emasculate conservative men and render them powerless.
The wilding of any woman is reprehensible. But defiling a mother of five with a babe in her arms, and a grandmother to boot, is particularly obscene. It is, of course, Palin's unapologetic motherhood that fuels the leftist fire.
Because as a mother and a fertile woman, Palin is as close to the sacred as a person gets. She is not just politically pro-life. Her whole being emanates life, which is a stark contrast to the darkness of the Left, the life-despoilers.
These "progressives" are so alienated from the sacred that they perceive nothing as sacred. And they will destroy anyone whose goodness shines a mirror on their pathology. The spiritually barren must annihilate the vital and the fertile.
It has been almost two years since I woke up and broke up with liberalism. During these many months, I've discovered that everything I believed was wrong.
But the biggest shock of all has been realizing that the Democratic Party is hardly an oasis for women. Now that it has been infiltrated by the hard Left, it's a dangerous place for women, children, and other living things.
In the wilding of Sarah Palin, the Left shows its true colors. Rather than sheild the vulnerable, leftists will mow down any man, woman, or child who gets in their way. Instead of a movement of hope and change, it is a cauldron of hate.
From Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.
In these dark times, with spiritually bankrupt people at the helm, thank God we have bright lights like Sarah Palin to illuminate the darkness.
A frequent AT contributor, Robin is a psychotherapist and a recovering liberal in Berkeley.
update: a quotation sourced from this website has been edited out, as the sourcing cannot be verified.
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dumb comment,but thats what i would expect from a far right nut ;D
Far right wing nut? Is that why I consistently bash Christine Odonnell? You people blame Sarah Palin for the murders last weekend, when she had nothing to do with it, and her death threats have risen considerably. SO how is it that you wont have blood on your hands if she is assasssinated?
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1) If someone threatens her, trace it. Arrest them. Sentence them to jail time and make an example of them, and anyone who threatens another human being.
2) LOL @ your article. "A strong, self-sufficient woman"... oh brother. She plays the victim card 24/7. I'm sorry, but "A strong, self-sufficient woman" would be Hutchinson or Hilary. She's a fucking whiner, end of story. I like her positions on issues - but that victim card shit gets old.
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Sandra Bernhard issues 'gang rape' warning to Sarah Palin
NY Daily News ^ | 9/19/2008 | Tracy Miller
Sandra Bernhard issued a blistering warning to Sarah Palin during a performance of her new one-woman show.
The Republican V.P. nom would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan, Bernhard said. Palin is said to be making a campaign stop in New York next week.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
WTF who does this bitch think she is :o
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what consequences have palins words had blacken?
Some uneducated and stupid americans thinks Obama is a russion spy and maybe some day the pres get shot because of this. At least that must be Palins intention
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240's eating crow over it and now trying to save face instead of owning up to it like a man. Now he's writing up these 500 word diatribes on how he wasn't implying anything at all. People who aren't implying anything don't mention Palin's list in every. single. post. ::)
Hmm not to interfere in your left/right whos best discussion but the other side in here does the same with Obama so...
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How did I lie about it? The people in CT, Cali, and other states are getting the same rate increases due to ObamaCare.
Where are the death camps?
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Wow. How ironic. The media may very well become responsible for the very things that they accuse Sarah Palin for. Do you guys realize that if Sarah Palin is assassinated, Blacken will have blood on his hands?
Yeah and if Obama is assasinated 3333 and Sarah will have blood on their hands. The door swings both ways
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because now she is worried that words have consequences,but when she says stupid things it's alright
Have you talked to the shooter, has he told you it was Palins words and actions that caused him to do what he did?
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Funny - why are they not blaming Ron Paul for this murder?
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Have you talked to the shooter, has he told you it was Palins words and actions that caused him to do what he did?
No.
Im not talking about this incident.
Im talking about Palin being hypocritical and says she is against political when she infact encourages it
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No.
Im not talking about this incident.
Im talking about Palin being hypocritical and says she is against political when she infact encourages it
Same for Obama no? Is he a hypocrite too?
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Same for Obama no? Is he a hypocrite too?
We had this discussion in another thread i believe.
Bama has never encouraged hate/fear the way Sarah has and you know it.
Her entire policy is dependent upon this so now dismissing it and saying thats not her politic thats hypocritical.
It would be like if Obama came out and said he was against universal health care, against unemployment benefits, in favor of drilling etc..
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We had this discussion in another thread i believe.
Bama has never encouraged hate/fear the way Sarah has and you know it.
Her entire policy is dependent upon this so now dismissing it and saying thats not her politic thats hypocritical.
It would be like if Obama came out and said he was against universal health care, against unemployment benefits, in favor of drilling etc..
YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH HAT NONSENSE.
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YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH HAT NONSENSE.
I had no idea i had any credibility with you but please explain where im wrong. Without the use of the words lefty/commie..etc..
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I had no idea i had any credibility with you but please explain where im wrong. Without the use of the words lefty/commie..etc..
Bama has said equally inflammatory stuff and yu know it. Dario has posted it many times.
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Bama has said equally inflammatory stuff and yu know it. Dario has posted it many times.
So Obama has said things like:
X is gonna create death camps and kill your seniors?
X is gonna destroy the country
X is a terrorist
X is gonna take your freedom away
And put crosshairs on political opponents heads
reload your weapons
take the country back
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YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH HAT NONSENSE.
Tell me youre shitting me....PLEASE TELL ME YOURE SHITTIN ME.. Credibility and you= oil and water
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Tell me youre shitting me....PLEASE TELL ME YOURE SHITTIN ME.. Credibility and you= oil and water
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and right before or after that you brought up palin... ::)
do you deny that others have blamed palin?
straw man is in denail that ANYBODY has blamed palin...
I've asked you repeatedly to show me one person in the media blaming Palin for this and you can't do it
I said from the beginning that the only person to "blame" is the person who pulled the trigger
you've been crying over Palin begin a victim for the past week and it's getting more pathetic every day
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Some uneducated and stupid americans thinks Obama is a russion spy and maybe some day the pres get shot because of this. At least that must be Palins intention
Yeah, ok Blacken. ::)
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I've asked you repeatedly to show me one person in the media blaming Palin for this and you can't do it
I said from the beginning that the only person to "blame" is the person who pulled the trigger
you've been crying over Palin begin a victim for the past week and it's getting more pathetic every day
I remember when I first came to the board and I thought you just played the dumb act. You really disabused me of that notion.
I won't do all your homework for you, but Markos Moulitsas and his "Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin" article is a good example. Of course, the Daily Kos also put targets of Gifford...doh!
Chris Mathews says she can't be exonerated, and on, and on.
And the only thing pathetic is your inability to admit when your wrong.
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I remember when I first came to the board and I thought you just played the dumb act. You really disabused me of that notion.
I won't do all your homework for you, but Markos Moulitsas and his "Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin" article is a good example. Of course, the Daily Kos also put targets of Gifford...doh!
Chris Mathews says she can't be exonerated, and on, and on.
And the only thing pathetic is your inability to admit when your wrong.
ok - well give me some links
I already said I don't care about what bloggers say (you're entitled to your own opionon on that)
I haven't heard the Matthews comment and I don't know WHO "and on and on" refers to.
I have heard plenty of people go out of their way to clarify that they are NOT blaming Palin for this incident and have only brought up her name along with many others as an example of the kind of rhetoric which can be potentially dangerous.
I have not heard one person say that Palin caused this to happen or Palin is responsible for this
feel free to post clips or transcript showing someone saying that
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I remember when I first came to the board and I thought you just played the dumb act. You really disabused me of that notion.
I won't do all your homework for you, but Markos Moulitsas and his "Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin" article is a good example. Of course, the Daily Kos also put targets of Gifford...doh!
Chris Mathews says she can't be exonerated, and on, and on.
And the only thing pathetic is your inability to admit when your wrong.
you haven't bothered to post a clip of Matthews so I'm not sure what you're referring too. Here's a clip (not sure if it's the one you're referring to). Pay attention to around the 1.30 minute mark.
It's comletely legitimate to talk about the rhetoric that Palin and others have used but that's not the same as blaming her for this event
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hd6U6UZu8z
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you haven't bothered to post a clip of Matthews so I'm not sure what you're referring too. Here's a clip (not sure if it's the one you're referring to). Pay attention to around the 1.30 minute mark.
It's comletely legitimate to talk about the rhetoric that Palin and others have used but that's not the same as blaming her for this event
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hd6U6UZu8z
No its not since even his friends said he was not political and did not listen to radio or cable news. He did not even vote in 2010 midterms.
So again - this whole thing is nothing but a typical whinefest of the far left pussies looking to attack palin for no reason at all.
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No its not since even his friends said he was not political and did not listen to radio or cable news. He did not even vote in 2010 midterms.
So again - this whole thing is nothing but a typical whinefest of the far left pussies looking to attack palin for no reason at all.
your first setence is referring to the shooter?
I wrote here before he ws even identified that we'd find out this person was crazy and that would be the "cause" of this tragic event.
Yes, it is completely legitimate to talk about the rhetoric and symbolism that politicians use. They were talking about Palins map, Angle, etc.. BEFORE this happened. It's part of the political climate and it's legitimate to talk about it.
I don't suppose you watched the clip did you.
If you did you'd see Howard Fineman say about Palin
"that doesn't mean she's in any way responsible for this...to underscore that"
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No its not since even his friends said he was not political and did not listen to radio or cable news. He did not even vote in 2010 midterms.
So again - this whole thing is nothing but a typical whinefest of the far left pussies looking to attack palin for no reason at all.
Youre a pussy whining about T-shirts
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Youre a pussy whining about T-shirts
he also whines about how Obama decorates the Oval Office
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he also whines about how Obama decorates the Oval Office
GTFO!!!!!!! ::)
I didnt see that
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GTFO!!!!!!! ::)
I didnt see that
I said it was ugly and tacky, like everything else they do.
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lol straw man being the willingfully ignorant rub that he is
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you haven't bothered to post a clip of Matthews so I'm not sure what you're referring too. Here's a clip (not sure if it's the one you're referring to). Pay attention to around the 1.30 minute mark.
It's comletely legitimate to talk about the rhetoric that Palin and others have used but that's not the same as blaming her for this event
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hd6U6UZu8z
[Keith Olbermann - Special Comment On Gabrielle Giffords Shooting]
[Keith Theodore Olbermann January 27, 1959]
Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on the attempted assassination of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona. We need to put the guns down. Just as importantly we need to put the gun metaphors away and permanently.
Left, right, middle – politicians and citizens – sane and insane. This morning in Arizona, this age in which this country would accept “targeting” of political opponents and putting bullseyes over their faces and of the dangerous blurring between political rallies and gun shows, ended.
This morning in Arizona, this time of the ever-escalating, borderline-ecstatic invocation of violence in fact or in fantasy in our political discourse, closed. It is essential tonight not to demand revenge, but to demand justice; to insist not upon payback against those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism,
If Sarah Palin, whose website put and today scrubbed bullseye targets on 20 Representatives including Gabby Giffords, does not repudiate her own part however, tangential in amplifying violence and violent imagery in politics, she must be dismissed from politics – she must be repudiated by the members of her own party, and if they fail to do so, each one of them must be judged to have silently defended this tactic that today proved so awfully foretelling, and they must in turn be dismissed by the responsible members of their own party.
who is olberdousch blaming then? who is he referring to when he says those politicians that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism?
well if you look at his next paragraph you see one of them...
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who is olberdousch blaming then? who is he referring to when he says those politicians that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism?
well if you look at his next paragraph you see one of them...
I don't see him blaming Palin for the actions of Loughner
I see him saying that she should repudiate violent rhetoric, images, etc..
I also saw him apologize for his own poor choice of words
I guess you think he's blaming himself for Loughners actions
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I don't see him blaming Palin for the actions of Loughner
I see him saying that she should repudiate violent rhetoric, images, etc..
I also saw him apologize for his own poor choice of words
I guess you think he's blaming himself for Loughners actions
"those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
WHAT POLITICIANS DO YOU THINK HE IS BLAMING THEN?
he is obviously saying that these ppls actions had something to do with the incident...
you disagree that he is saying that?
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"those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
WHAT POLITICIANS DO YOU THINK HE IS BLAMING THEN?
he is obviously saying that these ppls actions had something to do with the incident...
you disagree that he is saying that?
Is this from Olberman
how about posting the entire paragraph
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Is this from Olberman
how about posting the entire paragraph
yup olberdousch
"This morning in Arizona, this time of the ever-escalating, borderline-ecstatic invocation of violence in fact or in fantasy in our political discourse, closed. It is essential tonight not to demand revenge, but to demand justice; to insist not upon payback against those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism,"
What politicians do you think he feels brought us to this time of domestic terrorism?
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GTFO!!!!!!! ::)
I didnt see that
Oh god. Did you miss that? Xmas 2009. Dude was suffering through a losing battle of delusions and whinings that his brain doling out.
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I said it was ugly and tacky, like everything else they do.
Bullshit.
Since you seem to like to bump two year old threads, why not bump that one and we can all see exactly what you said.
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yup olberdousch
"This morning in Arizona, this time of the ever-escalating, borderline-ecstatic invocation of violence in fact or in fantasy in our political discourse, closed. It is essential tonight not to demand revenge, but to demand justice; to insist not upon payback against those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism,"
What politicians do you think he feels brought us to this time of domestic terrorism?
he said politicians and commentators
since he apologized for his own poor choice of words I'm guessing he must blame himself in some way
who were you thinking about?
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he said politicians and commentators
since he apologized for his own poor choice of words I'm guessing he must blame himself in some way
who were you thinking about?
thats fine he can be as idiotic as he wants as long as it only pertains to him...
now what politicians do you think he is referring to?
is there any proof anywhere that politics or politicians played a role in this?
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thats fine he can be as idiotic as he wants as long as it only pertains to him...
now what politicians do you think he is referring to?
is there any proof anywhere that politics or politicians played a role in this?
just to be clear
do you think he was blaming himself in any way?
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just to be clear
do you think he was blaming himself in any way?
he said if he had...so he made it a possibility...
he however didnt make it a possibility when he said "politicians and commentators that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" that my friend is saying those ppl are responsible for it...
just to be clear are you ready to take back the idiocy that nobody is blaming palin?
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he said if he had...so he made it a possibility...
he however didnt make it a possibility when he said "politicians and commentators that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" that my friend is saying those ppl are responsible for it...
just to be clear are you ready to take back the idiocy that nobody is blaming palin?
sure, as soon as you show me someone (not some stupid blogger) actually blaming Palin
btw - Olberman mentions Angle and West too
why no tears of pity for them?
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sure, as soon as you show me someone (not some stupid blogger) actually blaming Palin
btw - Olberman mentions Angle and West too
why no tears of pity for them?
January 14, 2011 http://detnews.com/article/20110114/MIVIEW/101140359
Dingell: Giffords shot because Palin and GOP 'were putting crosshairs on her'
HENRY PAYNE
The Michigan View.com
John Dingell has not been shy this week about using the Tucson massacre for political advantage.
The View.com reported Thursday morning that the senior member of Michigan's Congressional delegation - and the longest-serving U.S. House member - took to the House floor Wednesday afternoon to add more fuel to the narrative that Sarah Palin and Republicans were responsible for the shooting - even as President Obama was in the air to Tucson for a memorial service in which he would ask that politicians not "use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another."
But it was not the first time Dingell had spun his conspiracy theory.
On Monday at the Detroit Auto Show, Dingell was even more explicit - without any facts whatsoever - that Palin had provided a road map for Jared Loughner to kill Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
"Gabrielle Giffords had one of the great pundits of the far right come out and talk about how they were putting crosshairs on her," Dingell told Nathan Bomey of AnnArbor.com while visiting Cobo. "It took only a little while for some fellow to believe, well, you know, that's the case."
Dingell's Monday accusation came as evidence mounted that politics had nothing to do with shooter Jared Loughner's rampage. By Wednesday, when Dingell repeated the libel back in Washington on the House floor, there was no doubt that Loughner was a deranged individual that not only was divorced from politics - he was divorced from the real world.
He was suspended from school "after police officers who removed him from a biology class told the school they believed he had mental health problems," reports the Wall Street Journal. And Zack Osler, a friend of Loughner's, told ABC News that "he did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn't listen to political radio. He didn't take sides. He wasn't on the left. He wasn't on the right."
No matter. Dingell followed his Michigan colleague, Sen. Debbie Stabenow, in fingering conservative "hate speech" for Loughner's actions.
"I saw the district of Gabrielle Giffords has a crosshairs put on it," said Dingell departing from his prepared text. "As a lifetime rifleman and shooter, I know what crosshairs signify when you put them on somebody and I know what happened. And one other thing: 'if ballots don't work, bullets will.'"
Using hyperbole typical of his party's strategy to use the Gifford's shooting to change the GOP's legislative momentum, Dingell compared Republican rhetoric to the racism of the civil rights movement, declaring the current political atmosphere the worst he has ever seen.
"Mr. Speaker, I have seen firsthand the anger brought on by landmark, life-changing legislation. The rage during the civil rights debates was unlike anything I had seen, until now," said the longest-serving member of Congress.
"Within the last year I have witnessed anger at my community events that rival the behavior I witnessed during the civil rights debates," he continued in reference to a heated town hall debate in the midst of Democrats' attempt in 2010 to force through Obamacare against broad popular disapproval.
"What is different today is not the anger and apprehension felt by some in this country, but the inciting speech, dare I say encouragement, given by well-established folks in the seemingly mainstream political parties," he said before ticking off the usual litany of quotes - taken out of context - by Nevada Republican candidate Sharron Angle, Texas GOP candidate Stephen Broden, Michele Bachmann (R-Minnesota), conservative commentator Glenn Beck, and finally Palin's signature: "Don't retreat, reload."
Dingell's lesson was entirely partisan, as he included no controversial examples from the Left such as Bill Maher's riffs on wanting Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh dead or even now-President Obama's famous quote from a 2008 Philadelphia campaign speech: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
Politics, as Charles Kruathammer pointed out, is a natural theater for battleground rhetoric. Indeed, Michigan is regularly referenced as "a battleground state." Why? "Because fighting and warfare are the most routine of political metaphors," writes Krauthammer. "Indeed, the very word for an electoral contest — 'campaign' — is an appropriation from warfare."
Perhaps Obama understood this as he tried to damp his colleagues' raging rhetoric at the Tucson memorial service Wednesday night. His speech "was a non-accusatory, genuinely civil, case for civility, in stark contrast to what we've read and heard over the last few days," reviewed Rich Lowry of the National Review. "He subtly rebuked the Left's finger-pointing, and rose above the rancor of both sides, exactly as a president should."
Sadly, Dingell has shown no such leadership.
"Members of this body have a duty to speak up - as do members of the media - who have been saying these kinds of things," Dingell concluded on the House floor. "(They) will lead us into a time when we will create a threat not just to the lives and well-being of our members but also to the lives and well-being of this country and its debates."
Henry Payne is editor of The Michigan View.com
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© Copyright 2011 The Detroit News. All rights reserved.
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you finally found someone
very stupid comments by Dingel
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Please - that is just what i came across on FR in the last 5 min.
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sure, as soon as you show me someone (not some stupid blogger) actually blaming Palin
btw - Olberman mentions Angle and West too
why no tears of pity for them?
yes he does and he mentions PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
fact is not one of them is to blame for the shooting like he said they were
face it straw olberdousch blammed alot of ppl for the shooting, do you disagree?
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Please - that is just what i came across on FR in the last 5 min.
you're on the computer 24/7 and you couldn't find that until now?
btw - I think this guy could have just as easily shot up his school.
check out this youtube video (I assume it's real but have no verification).
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you're on the computer 24/7 and you couldn't find that until now?
btw - I think this guy could have just as easily shot up his school.
check out this youtube video (I assume it's real but have no verification).
would you have been ok if olberdousch had blamed palin et al for that too?
youre certainly ok for him blaming them for this one...
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yes he does and he mentions PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
fact is not one of them is to blame for the shooting like he said they were
face it straw olberdousch blammed alot of ppl for the shooting, do you disagree?
I don't recall the part where he said they were to blame
try to follow 333's example and find someone saying she's to blame
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This guy was a complete freak show. totally FUCKED in the head.
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would you have been ok if olberdousch had blamed palin et al for that too?
youre certainly ok for him blaming them for this one...
::) ::) ::) MORON
will you stop whining like a little girl
333 showed you what kind of quote to find now go find one for yourself and I'll call that person stupid too
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I don't recall the part where he said they were to blame
try to follow 333's example and find someone saying she's to blame
he feels politicians and commentators brought us to this time of domestic terrorism...
do you honestly think he isnt blaming anyone for it?
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A shameful week for America's liberal elites. The top 10 most ridiculous left-wing attacks on US conservatives following the Arizona shootings
By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: January 14th, 2011
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100071922/a-shameful-week-for-americas-liberal-elites-the-top-10-most-ridiculous-left-wing-attacks-on-us-conservatives-following-the-arizona-shootings
The Arizona shootings were not caused by rhetoric (Picture: REUTERS)
This has been a hugely shameful week for sections of the American Left, who have exploited a horrific tragedy that claimed six lives, in order to advance political attacks upon some leading conservative politicians and media commentators, as well as an entire political movement in the form of the Tea Party. The vitriolic and hate-filled attacks have marked a low point for liberal media elites in America in the 21st century, even to the extent that President Obama himself, probably the most liberal US president of modern times, felt the need to rebuke this undignified and crass display of left-wing finger-pointing in his memorial speech in Tucson on Wednesday night.
And after all the accusations against an array of prominent public figures from Sarah Palin, Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck, to Rush Limbaugh and Roger Ailes, it emerged that the deranged shooter, Jared Loughner, was in no way influenced by political rhetoric, and indeed had no interest at all in politics. As Charles Krauthammer noted in The Washington Post, “rarely in American political discourse has there been a charge so reckless, so scurrilous and so unsupported by evidence”.
I have compiled below a list of some of the most egregious examples of Leftist hysteria over the past week. It is by no means an exhaustive list – this list could easily be expanded to 20 or 30 further instances, especially crude statements from liberal politicians. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman was among the very first to link the mass shooting to conservatives, and two of his hugely irresponsible pieces feature in the list below. The list also includes a major article from American Guardian writer Michael Tomasky, as an example of how the Left-wing vitriol of the last week emanated not only from the east and west coasts of the United States, but also in some cases from across the Atlantic.
So here is my top 10 list, which Telegraph readers will no doubt wish to add to in their comments.
1. Paul Krugman, The New York Times, January 8, 2011
We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist.
You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate.
2. Keith Olbermann, MSNBC, January 8, 2011
This morning in Arizona, this time of the ever-escalating, borderline-ecstatic invocation of violence in fact or in fantasy in our political discourse, closed. It is essential tonight not to demand revenge, but to demand justice; to insist not upon payback against those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism, but to work to change the minds of them and their supporters – or if those minds tonight are too closed, or if those minds tonight are too unmoved, or if those minds tonight are too triumphant, to make sure by peaceful means that those politicians and commentators and supporters have no further place in our system of government.
If Sarah Palin, whose website put and today scrubbed bullseye targets on 20 Representatives including Gabby Giffords, does not repudiate her own part in amplifying violence and violent imagery in politics, she must be dismissed from politics – she must be repudiated by the members of her own party, and if they fail to do so, each one of them must be judged to have silently defended this tactic that today proved so awfully foretelling, and they must in turn be dismissed by the responsible members of their own party.
3. Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, Press Conference, Tucson, January 8, 2011
When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.
4. Michael Tomasky, The Guardian, January 9, 2011
Republicans and even Tea Partiers will have the sense – again, for a while – to steer clear of directly gun-related rhetoric. We won’t be hearing much in the near term about “second amendment remedies” and insurrection and so forth. But this will be temporary. Guns are simply too central to the mythology of the American right, as is the idea of liberty being wrested from tyrants only at gunpoint. For the American right to stop talking about armed insurrection would be like American liberals dropping the subjects of race and gender. It’s too encoded in conservative DNA.
… Direct responsibility for what happened Saturday? No. Mentally ill people are mentally ill. The Beatles weren’t responsible for the messages that Charles Manson heard in their music. But there’s a difference. Paul McCartney had no earthly reason to think that an innocent song about a fairground ride (Helter Skelter) would lead a man to commit barbarous acts of murder. Today’s Republicans and conservative commentators, however, surely understand the fire they’re playing with. But they do it, and a tragedy like Saturday’s won’t stop them, as long as they can maintain a phoney plausible deniability and as long as hate continues to pay dividends at the ballot box.
5. Paul Krugman, The New York Times, January 9, 2011
it’s the saturation of our political discourse — and especially our airwaves — with eliminationist rhetoric that lies behind the rising tide of violence.
Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.
And there’s a huge contrast in the media. Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans. But you won’t hear jokes about shooting government officials or beheading a journalist at The Washington Post. Listen to Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly, and you will.
… So will the Arizona massacre make our discourse less toxic? It’s really up to G.O.P. leaders. Will they accept the reality of what’s happening to America, and take a stand against eliminationist rhetoric? Or will they try to dismiss the massacre as the mere act of a deranged individual, and go on as before? If Arizona promotes some real soul-searching, it could prove a turning point. If it doesn’t, Saturday’s atrocity will be just the beginning.
6. Michael Daly, The New York Daily News, January 9, 2011
But anyone with any sense at all knows that violent language can incite actual violence, that metaphor can incite murder. At the very least, Palin added to a climate of violence.
And, now that Palin may have the blood of more than some poor caribou on her hands, I wonder if she will continue putting people in cross hairs and calling on folks to RELOAD!
7. George Packer, The New Yorker, January 10, 2011
But it won’t do to dig up stray comments by Obama, Allen Grayson, or any other Democrat who used metaphors of combat over the past few years, and then try to claim some balance of responsibility in the implied violence of current American politics. (Most of the Obama quotes that appear in the comments were lame attempts to reassure his base that he can get mad and fight back, i.e., signs that he’s practically incapable of personal aggression in politics.)
In fact, there is no balance—none whatsoever. Only one side has made the rhetoric of armed revolt against an oppressive tyranny the guiding spirit of its grassroots movement and its midterm campaign. Only one side routinely invokes the Second Amendment as a form of swagger and intimidation, not-so-coyly conflating rights with threats.
Only one side’s activists bring guns to democratic political gatherings. Only one side has a popular national TV host who uses his platform to indoctrinate viewers in the conviction that the President is an alien, totalitarian menace to the country. Only one side fills the AM waves with rage and incendiary falsehoods. Only one side has an iconic leader, with a devoted grassroots following, who can’t stop using violent imagery and dividing her countrymen into us and them, real and fake. Any sentient American knows which side that is; to argue otherwise is disingenuous.
8. Arizona Congressman Raul Grijalva, in an interview with The Huffington Post, January 8, 2011
“The climate has gotten so toxic in our political discourse, setting up for this kind of reaction for too long. It’s unfortunate to say that. I hate to say that,” Grijalva said in an interview with The Huffington Post. “If you’re an opponent, you’re a deadly enemy,” Grijalva said of the mindset among Arizona extremists. “Anybody who contributed to feeding this monster had better step back and realize they’re threatening our form of government.”
Grijalva said that Tea Party leader Sarah Palin should reflect on the rhetoric that she has employed. “She — as I mentioned, people contributing to this toxic climate — Ms. Palin needs to look at her own behavior, and if she wants to help the public discourse, the best thing she could do is to keep quiet.”
9. Harold Meyerson, The Washington Post, January 12, 2011
The primary problem with the political discourse of the right in today’s America isn’t that it incites violence per se. It’s that it implants and reinforces paranoid fears about the government and conservatism’s domestic adversaries.
Much of the culture and thinking of the American right – the mainstream as well as the fringe – has descended into paranoid suppositions about the government, the Democrats and the president. This is not to say that the left wing doesn’t have a paranoid fringe, too. But by every available measure, it’s the right where conspiracy theories have exploded. A fabricated specter of impending governmental totalitarianism haunts the right’s dreams.
… That doesn’t make Beck, Erickson, Rupert Murdoch and their ilk responsible for Tucson. It does make them responsible for promoting a paranoid culture that makes America a more divided and dangerous land.
10. Jane Fonda, Twitter, January 8, 2011
And finally, Oscar-winning actress and liberal darling Jane Fonda emerged from hibernation and delivered some of the most tasteless tweets in the brief history of Twitter, brazenly exploiting the shooting of a Congresswoman to make a monumentally shallow political attack. (hat tip: NewsBusters)
@SarahPalinUSA holds responsibility. As does the violence-provoking rhetoric of the Tea Party 2:51 PM Jan 8th via Echofon
@glenbeck guilty too. Shame. It must stop! 2:20 PM Jan 8th via Seesmic Web
Progressive Arizona Rep Gabrielle Giffords is shot. In her ads, Sarah Palin had her targeted in a gun site. Inciting to violence. 2:11 PM Jan 8th via Echofon
Tags: Arizona shootings, Barack Obama, Bill O'Reilly, charles Krauthammer, Clarence Dupnik, Erick Erickson, Fox news, Gabrielle Giffords, George Packer, Glenn Beck, Harold Meyerson, Jane Fonda, Keith Olbermann, Michael Daly, MIchael Tomasky, MSNBC, New York Times, Paul Krugman, Raul Grijalva, RedState, Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, tea party, US politics, Washington Post
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oh gawd, that loud mouth Fonda, she is a complete twat
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I'll add Krugman to my list of people with stupid comments
I don't even know why he would be commenting on this
He's an economist. Not a political pundit or talking head.
Even most of the people on GB.com were smart enough not to jump to any conclusions
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6. Michael Daly, The New York Daily News, January 9, 2011
But anyone with any sense at all knows that violent language can incite actual violence, that metaphor can incite murder. At the very least, Palin added to a climate of violence.
And, now that Palin may have the blood of more than some poor caribou on her hands, I wonder if she will continue putting people in cross hairs and calling on folks to RELOAD!
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None of us know why the shootings took place - do we?
The a-hole shooter has lawyered up, right?
He's made no statements telling us why he did it?
All we have are "investigative hints" at it, correct?
So really - repus, dems, media, all of us... we're just speculating, right? Or did I miss some confession letter where he blames somebody?
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You are in cya mode. We get it.
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In the end it doesnt matter where the shooter got his motivation from where are all responsible for our own actions so lets stop the witch hunt
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You are in cya mode. We get it.
??? I said from post #1... don't place blame until we get the facts.
Now, was Palin ignorant and irresponsible for putting out such a list? You betcha.
But I made a point (over and over for ignorant people who like to assign beliefs to me) that Palin was in no way tied to the shooting. For me, it was just another example of her being a fool who could lead to another 4 years of Obama, and as the top new story, certainly fair for discussion on a political news message board.
We still don't know the facts, and may not for another year until the court case gets going.
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We know plenty of facts. And not one points to her.
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We know plenty of facts. And not one points to her.
In the end it doesnt matter where the shooter got his motivation from where are all responsible for our own actions so lets stop the witch hunt on Palin
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here's a bright idea...BLAME the fucking shooter himself. Let's blame Coca Cola, Mickey d's and Lays Potato chips for obesity. Lets alcohol for drunk drivers..
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here's a bright idea...BLAME the fucking shooter himself. Let's blame Coca Cola, Mickey d's and Lays Potato chips for obesity. Lets alcohol for drunk drivers..
agreed
the only person I blame is the NUT who pulled the trigger
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I'm blaming jagermaiester for my addiction since that tastes so good.
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here's a bright idea...BLAME the fucking shooter himself. Let's blame Coca Cola, Mickey d's and Lays Potato chips for obesity. Lets alcohol for drunk drivers..
Agree. Mons Venus et al. were implicating Palin almost immediately after the shooting:
Quote from: Neurotoxin on January 08, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
Giffords, 40, took her seat in Congress in 2007 and has advocated for immigration reform, among other Democratic-led issues. She was among 20 members of Congress who were on former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's so-called "hit list," depicted in a graphic online with targeting crosshairs over their individual districts.
interesting.
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Just shameful.
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Trust me, Palin scares the jeebus out of me politically and I'm no fan of hers, BUT, no one but the shooter is to blame.