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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on January 22, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
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I just learned about this bullshit a few days ago and am pissed as hell.
I have tried all kinds of lights in my work area and the only ones that are up to snuff are good old fashion edison incandescent bulbs.
Several years ago I tried to be a good greenie and help the environment by buying these CFL bulbs but I had nothing but bad experiences including two of the bulbs exploding or rather making a loud fizzle sound followed by smoke and a stench so nasty I had to leave the room and open the windows for hours. As I have just learned from both state and federal suggestions, it's a good thing I left the room when the bulb failed. They are extremely toxic with murcury. In no specific order to state/federal, they recommend getting the hell out of the room ASAP and even say to hazmat all fabric type materials in the area of the failed bulb. They even say to cut out your carpet in the area of the failed or broken bulb... HOLY SHIT.... Are you freaking kidding me? All of America is going to be a hazarous danger zone by 2015 with all the broken bulbs and bulbs dumped in the trash and you know most people wont even know about this crap. I also experienced headaches after long hours trying to work with these new bulbs. Fuck that.
So that's right, I said fuck it and went down to home depot and completely bought them out of all the incandescent old fashion energy wasting bulbs I could buy. I have pretty close to half a lifetime supply or more and will be ordering more online in the next few days... They have already closed the GE plants in America killing all the jobs so I'm guessing these bulbs will be well off the shelves in the next few months.... If you need them, stalk up now... they're gone soon....
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hugo, you should check out the legislation michele bachmann has put out there.
lightbulb freedom act, soemthing like that.
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hugo, you should check out the legislation michele bachmann has put out there.
lightbulb freedom act, soemthing like that.
yea, I read about it yesterday.... I was trying to find it now to post it.
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finally I found it!!!
H.R.5616 - Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5616/
Please support this bill...
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finally I found it!!!
H.R.5616 - Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5616/
Please support this bill...
Without a link to how hot she is, i'm not sure republicans here will notice.
It's about the Tissues.
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http://www.vimeo.com/17750184 (http://www.vimeo.com/17750184)
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second link gives you english translation to the nonenglish parts. I love this docu, the topic of planned obsolescence is a great and maddening one
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Planned Obsolescence is the deliberate shortening of product life spans to guarantee consumer demand. As a magazine for advertisers succinctly puts it: “The article that refuses to wear out is a tragedy of business “ - and a tragedy for the modern growth society which relies on an ever-accelerating cycle of production, consumption and throwing away.
THE LIGHT BULB CONSPIRACY combines investigative research and rare archive footage to trace the untold story of Planned Obsolescence, from its beginnings in the 1920s with a secret cartel, set up expressly to limit the life span of light bulbs, to present-day stories involving cutting edge electronics (such as the iPod) and the growing spirit of resistance amongst ordinary consumers.
This film travels to France, Germany, Spain and the US to find witnesses of a business practice which has become the basis of the modern economy, and brings back disquieting pictures from Africa where discarded electronics are piling up in huge cemeteries for electronic waste.
Economists and environmentalists believe that the growth society as we know it is unsustainable in the long run and that Planned Obsolescence needs to become a thing of the past, as it is impossible to combine the limitless consumption of resources with a finite planet. But what are the alternatives? The film offers thought-provoking analysis by thinkers wor¬king on ways of saving both the economy and the environment, and presents hands-on stories showing entrepreneurs putting new business models into practice.
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Without a link to how hot she is, i'm not sure republicans here will notice.
It's about the Tissues.
uhm... yea... searching through my images files.... no... no... eh not so much.... maybe... maybe this one...
Will this do ???
:-\ yea, not so much...
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hey, I admit for the last 5 years, the only thing I have heard from bachmann were the batshit one-liners. until this year when the tea party took over, FOX didn't give her much airtime. You know, she wasn't a RINO like they were pushing into office in 2008 ;)
i'm quickly becoming a fan of her, the more I learn about her.
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http://www.vimeo.com/17750184 (http://www.vimeo.com/17750184)
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second link gives you english translation to the nonenglish parts. I love this docu, the topic of planned obsolescence is a great and maddening one
Good post MB... I am familiar with this as most of us are by now.
Once I started researching this, I was actually shocked to learn that GE had actually lobbied for this goddamned bill... You would think they would have been against it.... but noooooo...... GE wanted this crap to happen. Now the bulbs that were made in American will be replaced by CFL's made in Mexico and China so at a much greater profit to companies like GE.
nice....
didn't GE get bailout money too? I can't remember but I think they did... If so it appears they maneuvered in the following months to screw Americans and hook themselves up.
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hey, I admit for the last 5 years, the only thing I have heard from bachmann were the batshit one-liners. until this year when the tea party took over, FOX didn't give her much airtime. You know, she wasn't a RINO like they were pushing into office in 2008 ;)
i'm quickly becoming a fan of her, the more I learn about her.
yup, that's why I put her on my list of repubicans I might vote for in another thread.
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yup, that's why I put her on my list of repubicans I might vote for in another thread.
it really does illustrate how new outlets on BOTh sides of the aisle can make/break candidates.
MSN only puts her on TV to make all repubs look batshit crazy.
FOX leaves her off TV cause their tea party princess palin is on their payroll.
Palin start unraveling 5 minutes after bachmann goes on MSNBC and gives mathews a beatdown on his own show...
Suddenly she's the FOX sweetheart.
I have to say... giving her OWN speech opposite pauul Ryan kinda spits in the face of the party establishment. Christie declined the speech. Ryan's a kid... he isn't 2012 heavy hitter, let's be honest.
IF IF IF she gives her own speech - and announces her 2012 intentions as I think she will - it'd be the perfect way to minimize ryan, smash obama, and introduce herself as the FIRST SERIOUS 2012 CONTENDER - and use obama's national audience to do it ;)
She could steal the show with this one...
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Yeah its only a coincidence that immelt is now head of obama's so called jobs farce.
Ffffaaaaiiiilllll.
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Yeah its only a coincidence that immelt is now head of obama's so called jobs farce.
Ffffaaaaiiiilllll.
Wow, obama created another job. score 1 for the dems. I bet the guy has an entire staff too. Nice!
thanks for bringing this to our attention. More americans at work - thanks to Obama!
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Oh brother.
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Yeah its only a coincidence that immelt is now head of obama's so called jobs farce.
Ffffaaaaiiiilllll.
I seached and the only person I could find here on getbig that talked about the incandescent ban was you. You had posted several articles dealing with it but nobody seemed to give a shit. I wish I had seen them when you posted them.
Yea, isn't it fucking amazing... This fucking company, GE, lobbies for this ban, gets whatever billion of American taxpayer bailout money. Uses the money to shut out American workers in favor of Chinese/mex labor.... Brilliant.... Just fucking brilliant... creating new jobs with your taxpayer money.... oversees lol... nice.....
Thanks Obamabush, you two miserable fucktards....
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Did you see my threads about the mexican truckers issue?
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Did you see my threads about the mexican truckers issue?
I'll check it out.
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Be prepared to be revolted.
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This is OLD NEWS ALREADY...where have you all been? I heard about this during the summer of last year. In Europe a German guy is importing light bulbs from China since the EU banned incandescent bulbs. How is he able to do that you ask?...He has labeled the bulbs MINI HEATERS, since they actually use 95 percent of their energy creating heat. Under the new label the bulbs can be imported into Europe without being designated as illegal. Australia is similarly up in arms and I am sure they will come up with a way around their ban as well. Story Below
German "heatball" wheeze outwits EU light bulb ban
Fri, Oct 1 2010
BERLIN | Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:51am EDT
BERLIN (Reuters) - A German entrepreneur is bypassing a European Union ban on light bulbs of more than 60 watts by marketing his own brand as mini heaters.
Siegfried Rotthaeuser and his brother-in-law have come up with a legal way of importing and distributing 75 and 100 watt light bulbs -- by producing them in China, importing them as "small heating devices" and selling them as "heatballs."
To improve energy efficiency, the EU has banned the sale of bulbs of over 60 watts -- to the annoyance of the mechanical engineer from the western city of Essen.
Rotthaeuser studied EU legislation and realized that because the inefficient old bulbs produce more warmth than light -- he calculated heat makes up 95 percent of their output, and light just 5 percent -- they could be sold legally as heaters.
On their website (heatball.de/), the two engineers describe the heatballs as "action art" and as "resistance against legislation which is implemented without recourse to democratic and parliamentary processes."
Costing 1.69 euros each ($2.38), the heatballs are going down well -- the first batch of 4,000 sold out in three days.
Rotthaeuser has pledged to donate 30 cents of every heatball sold to saving the rainforest, which the 49-year-old sees as a better way of protecting the environment than investing in energy-saving lamps, which contain toxic mercury.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69E3FS20101015
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I just heard a news report the other day that found that well over half of the people in America had no idea of the ban on these bulbs. They kind of snuck it up on us. During the legislation, they were just talking about effeciency. Had they worded it like things were going to be banned, there would have been some opposition. Even my favorite alternative news sites didn't start talking about it until recently. To top it off, they've already stopped making them and stores are already getting rid of them well ahead of the ban. So they were kinda sneeky bastards on this.
Also, the heatball info in your article is bad. The guy is soldout and his next shipment of bulbs have been zapped by customs, so they're not going to let him use any back doors around the ban. Jeez dude, that's old news already :D
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People can bash me all they like, I post stuff that goes ignored only later for people to say "Gee 33, who did you know that so long ago?"
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People can bash me all they like, I post stuff that goes ignored only later for people to say "Gee 33, who did you know that so long ago?"
No offense, but there is no way I can keep up with the quantity of material you post. It's really staggering at times :D I try to check out as much as I can, but end up missing a lot of what you post.
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No offense, but there is no way I can keep up with the quantity of material you post. It's really staggering at times :D I try to check out as much as I can, but end up missing a lot of what you post.
Crazy shit seems to be occuring at a breakneck speed the last few years.
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I hope everyone knows they're not going to save any money after this ban. If the electric companies are selling a lot less electricity after the ban, don't think for a second they won't hike the rates to adjust--they will. You'll be paying the same per month and stuck buying expensive bulbs that suck and are dangerous.
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Its the obama way - pay more get less.
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WHere have you been? This thing was passed 3 or 4 years ago. Talk radio reported it pretty much the week that it happened. Thats what happens when you elect Democrats. Yes, I know Bush signed it into law, but it was a part of a much bigger bill with many other things in it.
Incidentally, I actuallly use mostly CFLs in a desperate attempt to save electricity costs. But I like having the CHOICE to buy incandescent light bulbs whenever I like. I do use one or two incadescent bulbs for my fragrance oil. The oil rings dont fit on top of those dam CFLs, and Im sure they wouldnt burn the oil as well or put off as strong of a fragrance. I keep forgetting to go to the store and stock up on a bunch.
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Crazy shit seems to be occuring at a breakneck speed the last few years.
yeah, those old rotary phones that sat in grandma's basement for 30 years still work... but teh cell phone I bought last year breaks when I drop it twice.
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It's Lights Out For The Incandescent Bulb In Calif
NPR ^ | January 23, 2011 | The Associated Press via NPR
The brightest bulb in most homes for more than a century is fading toward darkness this year as California turns out the light on the century-old incandescent.
Beginning Jan. 1, the state began phasing out certain energy-sucking bulbs, federal standards the rest of the country will enact next year.
Manufacturers will no longer make the traditional 100-watt bulb and stores will eventually sell out of current supplies. Consumers will have to choose from more efficient bulbs that use no more than 72 watts, including halogen incandescents, compact fluorescents and light-emitting diode, or LED, bulbs.
"These standards will help cut our nation's electric bill by over $10 billion a year and will save the equivalent electricity as 30 large power plants," said Noah Horowitz a senior scientist with the Natural Resources Defense Council. "That translates into a whole lot less global warming pollution being emitted."
The change is part of the federal Energy Independence and Security Act that President George Bush signed in 2007, to reduce energy use and greenhouse gas emissions. California was allowed to adopt the national standard one year earlier.
The act requires new bulbs to use 25 to 30 percent less energy beginning in 2012 nationally — starting with the 100-watt bulb. By 2014, other incandescent bulbs, including the 75-, 60- and 40-watt, will also be phased out across the country.
Some specialty bulbs, however, will continue to be available. Consumers will still be able to get smaller lights such as yellow bug lights and aquarium bulbs.
Light bulb manufacturers said they haven't gotten any reports of customers hoarding 100-watt bulbs yet, though that may change once supplies begin to dry up and word gets out.
Nick Reynoza, manager at Royal Lighting in Los Angeles, said it's a shame the transition comes at a time when alternatives are so much more expensive.
"It's not really an option — you have this or you don't get anything," he said. "The options are more expensive. Four incandescents are $1.00, the halogens are $5.99 and the LED are like $20."
While conservation groups back the change and the lighting industry has invested heavily in new technology, not everyone supports the law. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, who could not immediately be reached for comment, reintroduced legislation this year to repeal the law.
"People don't want Congress dictating what light fixtures they can use," said Rep. Barton on his website. "Traditional incandescent bulbs are cheap and reliable."
Adam Gottlieb, spokesman for the California Energy Commission, acknowledged that the change has resulted in a "great deal of hue and cry" on some blogs as well. Recent postings have included the titles "More dim bulbs: California banning 100-watt incandescent light bulbs" and "More evidence that California is nuts."
Gottlieb, however, said it was not a ban and that consumers can still buy whatever bulbs they want as long as they meet the new standards.
"After 130 years Tom Edison's old-fashioned light bulb is getting a 20th century makeover," he said. "The simple truth is consumers will save money."
The newer bulbs are more expensive than incandescents, but supporters of the technology say they last so much longer that there is a financial savings in the end. For example, while incandescents provide as much as 2,000 hours of light, compact fluorescents can provide light for six times longer.
Incandescents, which create light by passing an electric current through a tungsten wire filament, also waste 90 percent of the electricity they use as heat instead of light. Fluorescents, by comparison, apply an electrical current to different types of phosphers to produce light and produce less heat.
But fans of the traditional bulb say they provide a softer, more natural light and turn on more quickly. Michael Petras, president of GE Lighting, said the industry is aware of the shortcomings and is working to refine the technology.
"We've got compact fluorescents that look like incandescents," he said from the company's headquarters in Cleveland. "We have a product coming out this spring that's a hybrid of compact fluorescent and halogen that will provide energy savings and a better start up time."
Australia was the first to begin phasing out incandescents beginning in 2009, followed by the European Union, the Philippines and Argentina, said Petras. Mexico and Brazil are expected to follow the U.S.
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i just start small fires throught my house for lighting.....gives the place a historic look...
bench
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fluorescent America in 2012 :D
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MB, you asked what happens if you sell them after stocking up.
as far as I know you can still sell them if they are old stock. But I'm sure the green police are just around the corner. ::)
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ok sounds great.
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http://www.vimeo.com/17750184 (http://www.vimeo.com/17750184)
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second link gives you english translation to the nonenglish parts. I love this docu, the topic of planned obsolescence is a great and maddening one
just finshed watching this doc. good stuff. does make me wonder how it would effect the economy if everything lasted way longer. But I do hate buying shit meant to break in a few years.
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Interesting thread. Thanks for posting. I will go buy a bunch of incandescent bulbs and have them promptly recycled. Just doing my part to bring in the future. How are they supposed to get the new bulbs right if a bunch of technophobes are clinging to their incandescent bulbs?
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Interesting thread. Thanks for posting. I will go buy a bunch of incandescent bulbs and have them promptly recycled. Just doing my part to bring in the future. How are they supposed to get the new bulbs right if a bunch of technophobes are clinging to their incandescent bulbs?
I'm not clinging. I went out and bought the new bulbs to do my part and they fucking sucked. Until they come up with something better, I need the old blubs to work by. The CFL's didn't remotely come close to putting out the light they claimed and I ended up with headaches and eye strain after hours under them. Now I actually have some of the smaller new bulbs in areas where I don't have to spent a lot of time. But I already had two of the larger bulbs that are supposed to put out more light explode or burn out in a pretty dangerous way.
Looks like I'm not the only one who is had that happen:
Snopes has an article basically saying that the bulbs don't pose any kind of fire hazard. Well, that's bullshit snopes, I had it happen and didn't just make it up. I wanted to use these bulbs but to hell with that.
Also, I want the choice of what to install for lighting for what I need the light for. My work area gets pretty cold in the winter and incandescents help keep it warm. without the bulbs, I would just be cranking up the heat more than before. That's going to be an issue the farther north you go, especially in Canada in Alaska where these colder bulbs are probably going to but a bigger draw on energy used for heating. That's why people should have a choice. I find it ironic that every single site and news story pushing these bulbs makes the point that 90 percent of the energy is wasted in heat. You've got to be kidding me, since when is heat considered waste? On a hot day, yea, but we have a lot more cold days through the year than hot. So for most of the time, that makes incandescent bulbs, 100% effecient. You get the light and heat.
Lastly, you ask how they are supposed to get it right if people are still buying the old bulbs. Quite the opposite: sales for these new bulbs were already going up every year before this ban. That means people were buying them more and more. So why ban the old bulbs? As it was they still needed to make improvements to these new lights, but that'll probably slow now. Why should they worry about improving on a product the government is mandating you buy rather than win us over by perfecting the product? Really, why ban the old bulbs when the new ones were already making their mark in sales that were going up each year?
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just finshed watching this doc. good stuff. does make me wonder how it would effect the economy if everything lasted way longer. But I do hate buying shit meant to break in a few years.
Id love it if we went back to having durable goods.
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exactly what happened to mine twice: Mine made a hissing sound when it blew so I'm pretty sure it evacuated it's contents of mercury vapor.
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I especially like the recommendations if you break one of these new bulbs. Lets say you break one in your bedroom. You're supposed to bag up exposed clothes to be taken to hazardous disposal, do not vacuum, you're supposed to cut out your carpet and do the same lol nice... That goes for your bedding and all fabrics in the area. One broken bulb could cost you thousands. One lady had them test the room after a broken cfl and they found the room to be 6 times the safe level for mercury. Total cleanup was 2400.00. Most people don't know about this or even care. They just chuck these lights in the garbage and treat broken bulbs like any other.
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I especially like the recommendations if you break one of these new bulbs. Lets say you break one in your bedroom. You're supposed to bag up exposed clothes to be taken to hazardous disposal, do not vacuum, you're supposed to cut out your carpet and do the same lol nice... That goes for your bedding and all fabrics in the area. One broken bulb could cost you thousands. One lady had them test the room after a broken cfl and they found the room to be 6 times the safe level for mercury. Total cleanup was 2400.00. Most people don't know about this or even care. They just chuck these lights in the garbage and treat broken bulbs like any other.
Wow.....I'm going to do like you and buy a shitload of the old bulbs. this is so idiotic.
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Wow.....I'm going to do like you and buy a shitload of the old bulbs. this is so idiotic.
Its the Govt we are dealing with, you know, the same one tackling health care now, what else is new?
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Its the Govt we are dealing with, you know, the same one tackling health care now, what else is new?
They've done such a bang-up job over the years with the VA system, post office, DMV, etc... why not give them a shot? ;) ;D
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CFLs contain mercury. You didn't know that? Just a drop you say? How about up to 5 milligrams per lightbulb. If all 4 billion incandescent sockets were filled with CFLs we'd have 20 billion milligrams of mercury spread around every single US household. By the way, 20 billion milligrams is nearly 50,000 pounds.
That 50,000 pounds of mercury amongst 300 million people, if indiscriminately thrown away, will eventually find its way to your favorite landfill and public drinking water supply. Knock over a table lamp and shatter a CFL in your house, and you have a toxic waste situation on your hands right in the living room, bedroom or dining room.
On the other hand, at least half of all mercury emissions from coal fired power plants currently is captured by scrubbers, and clean coal technologies promise to eliminate 2/3rds of what remains. Not so for CFLs-- which can't operate without mercury.
Rest of the story: http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/ban_the_bulb.html
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check this out, GE came up with an incandescent that would have: met the new standards, provided the same light quality, been as efficient as CFLs and cost less than CFLs... LINK (http://ge.bloggingstocks.com/2007/02/23/ge-throws-light-on-incandescent-bulb-ban-movement/)
THEY THEN SCRAPED THE NEW BULB THE NEXT YEAR ::) LINK (http://www.environmentalleader.com/2008/12/01/ge-suspends-development-of-high-efficiency-incandescent-bulbs/)
The reasons given for scrapping the new bulb are probably bullshit. They have the legislation passed that forces consumers to buy more expensive options... Why the hell would they produce a bulb costing less than a CFL now...
So much for innovation... And now that they're invested in these new, expensive options to the max, watch what happens to any new companies that come along with a better option or inovation based on edison's bulb... They'll get ran right out of town.
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could someone please explain to me how it was that someone snapped their fingers and incandescent bulbs are being banned in every western country? I thought we had some sovereignty, but it looks to me like someone ordered it done everywhere at once... ???
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could someone please explain to me how it was that someone snapped their fingers and incandescent bulbs are being banned in every western country? I thought we had some sovereignty, but it looks to me like someone ordered it done everywhere at once... ???
Probably happened at one of those G20 or UN summits.
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Probably happened at one of those G20 or UN summits.
nice.... :-\
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I'm just buying a bunch of candles and whale-oil lamps, these bulb wars are going to give me a coronary.
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I'm just buying a bunch of candles and whale-oil lamps, these bulb wars are going to give me a coronary.
We don't have bulb wars. Bulb wars would be the free market and consumers picking what is best for them for their use. What we have is the government ordering what bulbs the consumer will use. Like I said above, it's that which will hinder innovation.
Also as I posted above, you can see that GE actually came up with an incandescent bulb that is as efficient as the CFL, provides the same light and is less expensive but they cancelled that bulb in 2008, a year after the legislation passed forcing the consumer to more expensive bulbs. Had it not been for this legislation, that bulb would probably still be in the works and headed to market for competition!
So in this case, it looks like the politicians have aided the corporation and once again, held back innovation... GE and the others will now reap huge profits. Their old bulbs are being bought out at record pace and their new bulbs are many times more expensive. They were able to nix the last remaining American workers for cheaper overseas labor. No wonder all of the major lightbulb companies lobbied for the "ban" of incandescents.
I thought it was odd that the makers of light bulbs would lobby for a ban on light bulbs, but it all makes sense now.
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I've gone out to buy bulbs several times now and I have to lol at what's going on... The lighting lane at the home improvement stores are turning into anti-establisment meeting areas... Tonight was the second time in a week that I ended up chatting with someone over politics in the bulb section of the store lol... Both times someone came up to me as I was looking throught the bulbs and said, "you know you better stock up on those" Then we sat there and talked about a full spectrum of the bullshit going on... The last dude would not stop talking, after 35 minutes I finally said, "hey, I gotta go, my wife is going to be wonder where the hell I am.." lol...
Anti-government meeting tonight in the bulb section of home depot at 7:00PM lol...
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I've gone out to buy bulbs several times now and I have to lol at what's going on... The lighting lane at the home improvement stores are turning into anti-establisment meeting areas... Tonight was the second time in a week that I ended up chatting with someone over politics in the bulb section of the store lol... Both times someone came up to me as I was looking throught the bulbs and said, "you know you better stock up on those" Then we sat there and talked about a full spectrum of the bullshit going on... The last dude would not stop talking, after 35 minutes I finally said, "hey, I gotta go, my wife is going to be wonder where the hell I am.." lol...
Anti-government meeting tonight in the bulb section of home depot at 7:00PM lol...
It's the "Charge of the Light-bulb Brigade !!!!" ;D
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I've gone out to buy bulbs several times now and I have to lol at what's going on... The lighting lane at the home improvement stores are turning into anti-establisment meeting areas... Tonight was the second time in a week that I ended up chatting with someone over politics in the bulb section of the store lol... Both times someone came up to me as I was looking throught the bulbs and said, "you know you better stock up on those" Then we sat there and talked about a full spectrum of the bullshit going on... The last dude would not stop talking, after 35 minutes I finally said, "hey, I gotta go, my wife is going to be wonder where the hell I am.." lol...
Anti-government meeting tonight in the bulb section of home depot at 7:00PM lol...
Did you see Bachmanns' Tea Party response? She mentioned this.
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Did you see Bachmanns' Tea Party response? She mentioned this.
she mentioned meeting others in the bulb section of home depot? :o
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she mentioned meeting others in the bulb section of home depot? :o
Something about going to the pitchfork section too. ;D
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Something about going to the pitchfork section too. ;D
LOL...
Washington Post Headlines:
Pitchfork and Mosquito Torch Mob Leave Home Depot Rampage 1600 Pennsylvania Ave... :D
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LOL...
Washington Post Headlines:
Pitchfork and Mosquito Torch Mob Leave Home Depot Rampage 1600 Pennsylvania Ave... :D
This light bulb issue isgtting a lot of play all over the place. Its more nanny state bullshit.
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This light bulb issue isgtting a lot of play all over the place. Its more nanny state bullshit.
did you hear about this crap where they are trying to outlaw people from walking and texting lol... I don't walk and text but WTF, this is an issue for lawmakers? huh?
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did you hear about this crap where they are trying to outlaw people from walking and texting lol... I don't walk and text but WTF, this is an issue for lawmakers? huh?
NYC baby!
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NYC baby!
that's seriously retarded... If someone is so fucking dull as to walk out in front of a car while they are texting, they are a darwin award. We don't need to save them with a law over it lol...
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that's seriously retarded... If someone is so fucking dull as to walk out in front of a car while they are texting, they are a darwin award. We don't need to save them with a law over it lol...
I forget where, but a woman walking and texting in a mall fell into the water fountain. lol
Complained that not one person helped her and is now trying to sue.
Sandra
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I forget where, but a woman walking and texting in a mall fell into the water fountain. lol
Complained that not one person helped her and is now trying to sue.
Sandra
LOL, reminds me of that person that sued Mcdonalds because the coffee was hot... Since that happened, Mcdonalds has a warning on their coffee that the coffee is hot lol....
seriously wtf....
LOL, it's probably the same reason there is a warning on the side of fireworks that says, "Dangerous, combustible"
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LOL, reminds me of that person that sued Mcdonalds because the coffee was hot... Since that happened, Mcdonalds has a warning on their coffee that the coffee is hot lol....
seriously wtf....
We are in pussy nation now. We are a culture of pussies, panzies, patsies, fags, softies, egg shells, hypochondriacs, victims, etc. Our culture has been feminized, pussified, and de-balled.
It is what it is. We are finished, get used to it.
Why anyone is even surprised anymore or just waking up to this is what intrigues me most.
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We are in pussy nation now. We are a culture of pussies, panzies, patsies, fags, softies, egg shells, hypochondriacs, victims, etc. Our culture has been feminized, pussified, and de-balled.
It is what it is. We are finished, get used to it.
Why anyone is even surprised anymore or just waking up to this is what intrigues me most.
I don't think we are a pussy nation. I think we are a nation with a lot of pussies...
When the shit hits the fan, someone is going to get bit...
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Classic Movie.
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Classic Movie.
a little corny and out of date, but still a good movie. It certainly is going down different than we ever thought it would.
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a little corny and out of date, but still a good movie. It certainly is going down different than we ever thought it would.
Why invade with troops when you can accomplish the same result via horrible trade policy, de-balling ones' self, and spending like there is no tommorow ad relying on communists to pay your bills?
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Marc LaMont Hill and Obama are made for each other - two idiots in the same pod. Fucking morons.
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Lights Out… Democrats Block Repeal of Lightbulb Ban – Vote Gives Jobs to China
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 9:41 PM
House democrats blocked the repeal of the light bulb ban. A majority of Americans oppose the government’s unpopular and unnecessary ban on incandescent bulbs and infringement on choice. On January 1 2012, 100 watt incandescent bulbs will become illegal, with lower wattages to follow.
The democrats just voted to give jobs to China.
The Politico reported:
House lawmakers Tuesday stymied an initial effort by Republicans to put an end to infamous light bulb efficiency standards.
The bill from Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) to repeal part of a 2007 energy law requiring traditional incandescent light bulbs to be 30 percent more energy efficient beginning in 2012 failed to get the necessary two-thirds support needed for approval under expedited rules. A majority of members — 233 — supported the repeal, including five Democrats. Ten Republicans joined 183 Democrats opposing the measure.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi personally whipped Democratic Caucus members to vote against the bill, a Democratic aide told POLITICO.
“I was concerned that Ms. Pelosi might make it a litmus test issue in her caucus, and she did,” Barton said after the vote. “We only got 5 Democrat votes. Everybody in the Blue Dog caucus and the Black caucus that voted no, voted against their constituents.
“I thought I had 25 at a minimum. I thought, if it were truly a free vote, I thought we’d pass it on suspension,” he added.
Barton said his plan is to move the measure under a regular rule requiring only majority support or as a spending bill amendment.
“We can put it on an appropriations bill. We can back it under a rule. I can try and go to some of the Democrats who didn’t vote for it and figure out a way to get them to consider voting for it in a little bit of a different format,” he said.
Of course, with their vote today the democrats gave good paying American jobs to China. The lightbulb ban forced several US manufacturing plants to close their doors. Meanwhile, the labor-intensive CFL production is thriving – in China.
Thanks democrats.
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#1 July 12, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I_B_Prophen commented:
Time for a trip to Home Deopt and Lowes.
Stock up on the incandescents folks.
When they’re gone, they’re gone.
You gotta love this Administration!
Orwell would be proud!!
#2 July 12, 2011 at 9:49 pm
toongoon commented:
Impotency.
#3 July 12, 2011 at 9:49 pm
TexasFred commented:
The *weak sisters* in DC can’t knock out a bad light bulb… I truly think America is SCREWED…
And I said screwed…
#4 July 12, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
This vote is unforgivable for republicans who support the ban.
#5 July 12, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Jack10 commented:
GW Bush passed this bill. Get your facts straight morons.
#6 July 12, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I_B_Prophen commented:
. . . Yes but we had a chance to set it right, and WE DID NOT!!!!
Did we???
#7 July 12, 2011 at 9:57 pm
toongoon commented:
We’ve got bigger problems than light bulbs. Senate Majority Leader McConnell wants to give Obama the power to raise the debt limit on his own whim.
The republicans are showing that they are complicit with zero in bringing the US to her knees AGAIN.
Light bulbs at this point just don’t seem to hold a candle, (pun intended).
#8 July 12, 2011 at 10:03 pm
tommy mc donnell commented:
once again our elected officials vote againist the will of the majority of their constitutents. this is an imperial government the will of the people means nothing to them. remember government of the people , by the people, for the people. for almost three years now its been destroyed by this group.
there are ten republicans that need to be primaried out of office.
#10 July 12, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Molon Labe commented:
How sick are GOP tactics. Since when do you need a two thirds majority to end a law?
#11 July 12, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Poor Richard commented:
Here’s a list of the 10 Republicans who votes NO and the 4 Dems who didn’t vote: http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/7558082923/house-vote-to-overturn-incandescent-light-bulb-ban
#12 July 12, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Opaobie commented:
Makes you think the establishment Repubics like Boehner wanted it to fail by bringing it directly to the floor for a vote, which needs 2/3rds to pass, instead of simply running it through committee and then out for a vote, which only needs a simple majority. They had better get it tacked onto something that passes before the ban goes into effect or their ineptitude should bring about political “lights out” for the RINOs and Repubics who let this happen.
#13 July 12, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Poor Richard commented:
Oops. I just realized that you linked to us in the article! Ha! thanks!
#14 July 12, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Walknot commented:
I guess upset’n the herd is a good thing, makes them RINOs easier to spot.
#15 July 12, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Lee commented:
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#16 July 12, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Larkin commented:
Term limits.
Get the weasels out of the hen house.
#17 July 12, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Moright commented:
Thought this one was a no-brainer. Thanks for the names, Poor Richard.
#19 July 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm
S. Wolf commented:
What a golden opportunity for China to put miniature listening device bugs in light bulbs.. what better way to spy on corporate and defense meetings? Just transmit conversations and even video to a local laptop and you have classified info without hacking computer networks.
#20 July 12, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Ozark Lee commented:
Some enterprising entrepreneur will follow the lead that is happening in Europe – sell 100 Watt bulbs as “heaters” to skirt the law.
Of course the “enterprising entrepreneurs” sell them for double the current street value of a light bulb.
Can someone stop the world so that I can get off?
…Lee
#21 July 12, 2011 at 11:44 pm
MamaGrizzly commented:
Someone has to know WHY everyone is so big on selling out the United States. It’s like they’ve seen something or someone we haven’t . . .
GE is making billions on this deal.
This is big business corporate crap in league with the Marxists in the WH. Just sickening. The real light bulbs are already disappearing from the shelves at Wal-Mart, etc.
#22 July 12, 2011 at 11:55 pm
gus commented:
GE!!! THEY BRING GOOD THINGS TO LIFE!!!!!!!
#23 July 13, 2011 at 12:00 am
Redwine commented:
Here are the names of the 10 GOP morons who voted for this utterly idiotic ban against American jobs (and for Chinese jobs) and totally safe bulbs. If they’re up for re-election in 2012, vote ‘em out. Certainly let them know that you know what damage they’ve done:
Rep. Charles Bass [R, NH-2]
Rep. Brian Bilbray [R, CA-50]
Rep. Scott Garrett [R, NJ-5]
Rep. Morgan Griffith [R, VA-9]
Rep. Richard Hanna [R, NY-24]
Rep. Tim Huelskamp [R, KS-1]
Rep. Tom Reed [R, NY-29]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8]
Rep. Scott Rigell [R, VA-2]
Rep. Glenn Thompson [R, PA-5]
#24 July 13, 2011 at 12:00 am
Francesca commented:
I hate the new light bulbs, and I am honestly beginning to hate the jerks in Washington. What on earth is wrong with them? Why can’t they accomplish this small task for their constituents? If I were younger and had no family here, I would think seriously about moving somewhere else. Our country is so down the tubes that it is making me physically ill.
#25 July 13, 2011 at 12:02 am
TXConservativeMan commented:
We need to understand that this law was acutally insitigated by republicans and signed into law by George W. Bush. I do not agree with the vote against the repeal by any means, but if it were not for the repubs to begin with, we would not have to worry about this.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45156
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/07/08/study-incandescent-light-bulb-ban-would-save-12-5b/
http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-LightBulbs_070711.html
#26 July 13, 2011 at 12:24 am
bigkahuna commented:
We need to boycott GE and show those bastards they dont represent America no more. Tell them to shove their curly CFL’s up their a$$es. Then we should all stand outside congress and throw about 50000 CFLs on the steps. Let them shut down congress from the mercury poisoning and save us all from these idiots getting together for a while.
#27 July 13, 2011 at 12:28 am
Just_Saying commented:
The insane thing about the new bulbs is that they cause mercury poisoning wherever discarded/broken. And the EPA is behind this poisoning of the environment? Nuts!
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#28 July 13, 2011 at 12:37 am
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Ten Republicans joined 183 Democrats opposing the measure.
This is what puts the “stupid” in the Stupid Party.
#29 July 13, 2011 at 12:54 am
jennifer commented:
Post #5 is right, this truly is Bush’s fault, as is his signing CPSIA, for those of you who don’t know about that bill, it literally bans selling your kids toys at yard sales or online, or simply donating them to charities. Folks who make handmade toys from wood, etc. have to go through costly lead testing, which also puts them out of business. You have to have each toy tested for lead. Old children’s books have to be burned as well. Look it up. Right now the gov’t isn’t enforcing this law because of the huge outcry, but it’s in the books, it is the law. Makes me sick. Dumb progressive Republican president did this. Let’s please make sure we don’t get another progressive Republican (Romney) as the nominee. He’s just chomping at the bit to sign more destructive laws (Romneycare, anyone?).
#30 July 13, 2011 at 1:29 am
TXConservativeMan commented:
Just_, I agree. I find it intriguing that the EPA is allowing this, though they will probably just get sued by the other party that Mr. Hoft presented a couple of days ago.
Our government has become so backwards and twisted that everytime I read something that Mr. Hoft presents or hear on AFA Talk, I get infuriated and inspired to do something about it. I am afraid that I will just be shoved aside because I would be unwilling to compromise my morals and ethics to achieve something that a “party” or other political presence would see fit.
#32 July 13, 2011 at 3:18 am
Hard Right commented:
Off topic but interesting –
Nixon OKs drug tests for welfare recipients
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=266746
Probably won’t amount to anything. Officials have to have “reasonable cause.”
#33 July 13, 2011 at 4:20 am
Gini commented:
Bought my supply of 100 watt bulbs a few months ago.
If Home Depot is out of stock, you can buy through Amazon.
#35 July 13, 2011 at 5:58 am
Rose commented:
Remember when you buy incandescents – or anything else, for that matter – DO NOT BUY GE!
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