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Title: The Big 5 - Term by Dr. McGuff
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 05:03:11 AM
Is a term used by Dr. McGuff and they are as follows:

1. Some kind of Squat or Leg Press
2. Some kind of Bench Press (pushing in the horizontal plane)
3. Some kind of Overhead Press (pushing in the vertical plane)
4. Some kind of Row (pulling in the horizontal plane)
5. Some kind of Chin/Pulldown (pulling in the vertical plane). Discuss

Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: JasonH on February 05, 2011, 05:22:22 AM
Some kind of curl?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: mass243 on February 05, 2011, 05:24:13 AM
Some kind of calf raise ?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: wes on February 05, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
Also add in...............

Skullcrushers
Deadlifts
Some kind of incline press


End of stupid thread
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Grape Ape on February 05, 2011, 06:25:24 AM
Some kind of curl?

An isolation movement for a show muscle wouldn't make a big five list.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but ya gots to do da weights son 8) remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL ;D but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said 8) West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles  ;) " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion :o etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 05, 2011, 06:35:33 AM
10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but you gots to do da weights son 8) remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL ;D but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said 8) West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles  ;) " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion :o etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181
LOL spot on #4 is the most important on the list.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Hulkotron on February 05, 2011, 06:36:30 AM
10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but ya gots to do da weights son 8) remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL ;D but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said 8) West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles  ;) " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion :o etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181

Haha.

You can just post this as the first reply in every thread and substantially reduce the flotsam around here.


Better question: If you could only ever do one lift for the rest of your life (e.g. you have murdered your Getbig posting rival and have to go to jail and can bring one luxury item), what would it be?  I say barbell squats b/c you can look pretty jacked just doing pushups/pullups/unweighted calf raises/jack-off/etc. but your legs will always be sticks without iron assistance.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: biff on February 05, 2011, 06:39:17 AM
"pick things up and put them down"
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 05, 2011, 06:42:26 AM
An isolation movement for a show muscle wouldn't make a big five list.

Believe it or not, bicep and abs are some of the most important muscles in everyday life. Ask strongmen who carry stuff.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 06:44:58 AM
ROFL! Awesome one kiwi ma man ;D So wot would che have to add into da mix? And as far as the Big 5 is considered, I'd say that any kind of overhead press isn't necessary, since the bp is the upper body  squat.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: TacoBell on February 05, 2011, 06:45:37 AM
Your mom took on my big five when she got fisted
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 05, 2011, 06:55:47 AM
Sometype of direct arm exercises drop the overhead press, especially if your arms are a weak point.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 07:04:03 AM
ROFL! Awesome one kiwi ma man ;D So wot would che have to add into da mix? And as far as the Big 5 is considered, I'd say that any kind of overhead press isn't necessary, since the bp is the upper body  squat.

Che is unpredictable, lol
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Grape Ape on February 05, 2011, 08:22:29 AM
Believe it or not, bicep and abs are some of the most important muscles in everyday life. Ask strongmen who carry stuff.

Abs I believe.  But a lot of guys who strength train at my gym hardly train biceps, if at all.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 08:42:10 AM
According to Louie Simmons of The Westside Barbell Club, and the home of multiple World Powerlifting Champs, biceps are a useless muscle in the sport of powerlifting. And as far as calves go, they contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to major sporting activites, including ALL forms of running and jumping.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: BB on February 05, 2011, 08:42:51 AM
Biceps are important in Powerlifting because of the stabilizing effect during bench(especially wider grip) and during deadlift. In Strongman, they're used a lot in in the tire flip, etc.... A few years back, when it was in vogue to drop direct bicep work, you saw quite a few torn biceps. It's swung back to just do a few sets, here and there among most of them, usually straight bar or hammer curls.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 08:45:22 AM
Is that what Louie Simmons says nowadays? He said that stuff about the biceps back in the late 90s.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: BB on February 05, 2011, 08:49:56 AM
It's more just the general thinking in powerlifting and strongman circles. Simmons's is a bit similar, just do enough to prevent imbalances, etc....
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 05, 2011, 08:54:11 AM
“I am a huge bloat due to sodium not dbol“


kiwiol
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Hulkotron on February 05, 2011, 09:07:12 AM
And as far as calves go, they contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to major sporting activites, including ALL forms of running and jumping.

What is your basis for this statement?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 09:10:55 AM
“I am a huge bloat due to sodium not dbol“


kiwiol

Thanks for thinking about me so much, bro
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dr.chimps on February 05, 2011, 09:20:03 AM
Thanks for thinking about me so much, bro
Wait'll he starts 3 simultaneous threads on you, then you'll know you've really taken up some headspace.  ;D
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Wait'll he starts 3 simultaneous threads on you, then you'll know you've really taken up some headspace.  ;D

Haha I honestly don't understand the sudden interest/hard-on, with the name change and everything ??? I haven't even posted a pic or talked about my physique in years.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 09:37:45 AM
When one runs and/or jumps the bulk of the power comes from the hip extenders. Olympic lifters have some of the best vertical leaps of all sportsmen, and their lifts train the hip extenders, and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for ankle flexion/extension. Take one guy and have him train only on hip extension (leg press/squat) and take another guy and have him only train on "calf work" and I guaren-goddamn-tee that the squat/leg press guy will pwn the shit out of the calf guy when tested for vertical jump increase.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dseiler on February 05, 2011, 10:06:02 AM
Squat
Deadlift
Bench Press
Military Press
Pull-ups

(Assistance work optional)

All you'll ever need for foundation.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: mass243 on February 05, 2011, 10:08:38 AM
And as far as calves go, they contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to major sporting activites, including ALL forms of running and jumping.

Oh boy... You're way off! Calves are very important. Almost all athletes have huge and probably strong calves
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: TacoBell on February 05, 2011, 10:19:20 AM
When one runs and/or jumps the bulk of the power comes from the hip extenders. Olympic lifters have some of the best vertical leaps of all sportsmen, and their lifts train the hip extenders, and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for ankle flexion/extension. Take one guy and have him train only on hip extension (leg press/squat) and take another guy and have him only train on "calf work" and I guaren-goddamn-tee that the squat/leg press guy will pwn the shit out of the calf guy when tested for vertical jump increase.

That's what your mom was babbling about when she took on the big 5 aka the Lakers
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Hulkotron on February 05, 2011, 11:01:38 AM
Oh boy... You're way off! Calves are very important. Almost all athletes have huge and probably strong calves

Yeah he's an idiot.  The calves have been researched probably more than any other muscle group and play a very important role in running and sprinting and jumping.  Our calves are actually specially designed for power jumping and economical running.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 11:03:42 AM
That's what your mom was babbling about when she took on the big 5 aka the Lakers

 ;D Do you think if we made a "your mom" thread, it would eventually beat the gayer than thread?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 11:30:55 AM
Well kiwiol, me thinks dat da mom jokes pwn the gayer than jokes, but in my opinion the short but sweet ones are much better and funnier. For example your "I update your mom" ROFL! Classic man, fucking classic ;D Maybe we should set a word limit to the mom jokes ie. 10 words or less?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: benchmstr on February 05, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
Some kind of calf raise ?
calf raises=more pointless, and gay than pink flannel lumberjack...

bench
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Well kiwiol, me thinks dat da mom jokes pwn the gayer than jokes, but in my opinion the short but sweet ones are much better and funnier. For example your "I update your mom" ROFL! Classic man, fucking classic ;D Maybe we should set a word limit to the mom jokes ie. 10 words or less?

The 'gayer than' jokes are great, but the 'gayer than' thread is not about jokes so much as it is just people having a conversation with a "gayer than" at the beginning of each sentence.

But yes, 'your mom' jokes are funnier most of the times.

Word limit won't work, since everyone has their own style, which is good. It would be a hilarious thread, though.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: che on February 05, 2011, 11:45:16 AM
The 'gayer than' jokes are great, but the 'gayer than' thread is not about jokes so much as it is just people having a conversation with a "gayer than" at the beginning of each sentence.

But yes, 'your mom' jokes are funnier most of the times.

Word limit won't work, since everyone has their own style, which is good. It would be a hilarious thread, though.
Naah . Mom jokes are funny  because they are random ,if you make a thread about it  they  would get old quick.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 11:46:43 AM
Naah . Mom jokes are funny  because they are random ,if you make a thread about it  they  would get old quick.

You have a point there.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Your mom got old quick
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Is a term used by Dr. McGuff and they are as follows: 1. Some kind of Squat or Leg Press 2. Some kind of Bench Press (pushing in the horizontal plane) 3. Some kind of Overhead Press (pushing in the vertical plane) 4. Some kind of Row (pulling in the horizontal plane) 5. Some kind of Chin/Pulldown (pulling in the vertical plane). Discuss

1. Who is this "Dr. McGuff"?

2. Unless for bodybuilding purposes, why would he suggest a leg press?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: che on February 05, 2011, 12:10:50 PM
Your mom got old quick

DJ ma man,  no need to get personal .
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: BB on February 05, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
1. Who is this "Dr. McGuff"?



(http://www.robotronics.com/crimeprevention/logos/ncpclogo.jpg) ? .


Seriously, I'm pretty sure he means Doug McGuff, who was a Super Slow/Mentzer HIT type guy. I've only read a little of his stuff, but it seems more targeted to the 40 year old couch potato that thinks you can get in shape with that type of minimal traning. He's also bias'ed toward machines and the like for the most part.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2011, 12:35:43 PM
Is a term used by Dr. McGuff and they are as follows: 1. Some kind of Squat or Leg Press 2. Some kind of Bench Press (pushing in the horizontal plane) 3. Some kind of Overhead Press (pushing in the vertical plane) 4. Some kind of Row (pulling in the horizontal plane) 5. Some kind of Chin/Pulldown (pulling in the vertical plane). Discuss
no. 1. squat   2. dips    3. chins   4. deadlifts    5 clean and  press. this my son will make you a man.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Tito24 on February 05, 2011, 12:37:17 PM
(http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/rijks/still-life-with-flowers-and-fruit-59)
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Yep, it's from Doug McGuff, but my point isn't that McGuff's theroies are the best or even good for that matter. FYI, that super-slow stuff is a load of horseshit by the way. But the point is that the heavy compound moves pwn the shit out of ALL OTHER EXERCISES. And coach, you gotta be joking about leg presses, right?
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Tito24 on February 05, 2011, 12:39:27 PM
Love is the only engine for survival
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: TacoBell on February 05, 2011, 02:55:13 PM
;D Do you think if we made a "your mom" thread, it would eventually beat the gayer than thread?

no 
getbig is gayer than your mom  ;)
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
Yep, it's from Doug McGuff, but my point isn't that McGuff's theroies are the best or even good for that matter. FYI, that super-slow stuff is a load of horseshit by the way. But the point is that the heavy compound moves pwn the shit out of ALL OTHER EXERCISES. And coach, you gotta be joking about leg presses, right?

Not even close to joking about the leg press. Like I said, unless you're using for bodybuilding, fitness or a soccer mom who want's to look "firm and
tone" there is very little functional use for it.
Title: Re: The Big 5
Post by: kiwiol on February 05, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
Not even close to joking about the leg press. Like I said, unless you're using for bodybuilding, fitness or a soccer mom who want's to look "firm and
tone" there is very little functional use for it.

Oh great, even The Coach is making mom-related posts now

no 
getbig is gayer than your mom  ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Big 5 - Term by Dr. McGuff
Post by: Firemuscle on February 05, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
1. wrist curls
2. cable flies
3. leg extensions
4. tricep kickbacks
5. ab wheel
Title: Re: The Big 5 - Term by Dr. McGuff
Post by: evandatp on February 05, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
Gayer than thinking you need a direct arm exercise when you can't even squat 1.5x your bodyweight for 5 reps.