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Title: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Per Se on February 10, 2011, 05:07:41 PM
After seeing the vid of Dennis Wolf's recent training, (back)...it made me think how many of todays top pros perform BOTH squats AND deadlifts in their weekly training splits, like pros of yesterday.

If you're at the top, perhaps commanding 6 figures per year, and all you do is eat-train-sleep, why would you not train as hard as possible? WHY??
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: GWAR on February 10, 2011, 05:08:49 PM
no way dude
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Wiggs on February 10, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
Because like most things in life when dealing with humans there is bell's curve.  The best, the worst, and everyone else in between.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 05:10:41 PM
no way dude

 Do that exercise butt naked with lots of KY Jelly. That's how you work the inner glutes.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 10, 2011, 05:31:12 PM
Cool picture with the dog watching. And does Chick really need that spot?
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
Cool picture with the dog watching. And does Chick really need that spot?

I don't think necessity was thought about in that photoshoot lol
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: GWAR on February 10, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
Cool picture with the dog watching. And does Chick really need that spot?
hes helping chick keep his prolapsed bowl in place
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: 225for70 on February 10, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
Chick says he avoids the bench press cause he can cause injuries..
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 05:42:22 PM
 Pros definitely do look like they are training a lot less intense then they used to.

 But what they are doing is working for them. They are blowing up huge from drugs and maxxing out their genetic capacity. So I guess they are doing something right.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: DK II on February 10, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Chick says he avoids the bench press cause he can cause injuries..

good advice, same with squats, deadlifts, chin ups. Actually just sitting on the couch at home is the safest, almost no injuries, at least not in the short run.
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 05:44:03 PM
I don't think necessity was thought about in that photoshoot lol

Not the brightest bunch here....big surprise ::)


No, I didnt need a spot...it was a demonstration shoot for John Parrillos book, as I am demonstrating the exercise, and he is demoing the spoting technique....It wasnt my training system, it was his.

Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 05:47:29 PM
Not the brightest bunch here....big surprise ::)


No, I didnt need a spot...it was a demonstration shoot for John Parrillos book, as I am demonstrating the exercise, and he is demoing the spoting technique....It wasnt my training system, it was his.



hahaha oh brother

You put on the tight short outfit, stood in front of a guy while he reached around your waist, squatted down to the floor keeping your butt in his crotch, while some guy with a camera snapped pictures and you walked away with a little money.

Brutal trying to make it sound professional
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
no way dude

 That's Bob Chick?
 
 Is this in the gym at The Mirage?

 Seriously though, what exactly is that guy behind him supposed to be doing? What kind of exercise is this? I've never seen anyone do that kind of thing before.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
hahaha oh brother

You put on the tight short outfit, stood in front of a guy while he reached around your waist, squatted down to the floor keeping your butt in his crotch, while some guy with a camera snapped pictures and you walked away with a little money.

Brutal trying to make it sound professional

Brutal making it sound like it was anything but a demo shoot...cant say I blame you...guys like you always seem to read what they want into it...

"some guy with a camera"?  You mean like Parrillo just solicited for some anonymous guy on the street with his polaroid to take a few pics?  

You're as transparent as they get, closet boy
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
That's Bob Chick?
 
 Is this in the gym at The Mirage?

 Seriously though, what exactly is that guy behind him supposed to be doing? What kind of exercise is this? I've never seen anyone do that kind of thing before.

How would you?? Never seeing the inside of a gym may have that effect...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Wiggs on February 10, 2011, 05:54:30 PM
Bob you are missed at PBW...No offense to Chad and Lee.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
How would you?? Never seeing the inside of a gym may have that effect...

 Listen up peeroy. I've been lifting since 1994 and I have a natural physique that you can any DREAM of.

 I saw those skinny-fat pictures of you at the expo. You are all drugs. I don't need drugs. I'm a natural sex god.

 BOW DOWN.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 05:57:14 PM
Bob you are missed at PBW...No offense to Chad and Lee.

Appreciate that bro...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
Brutal making it sound like it was anything but a demo shoot...cant say I blame you...guys like you always seem to read what they want into it...

"some guy with a camera"?  You mean like Parrillo just solicited for some anonymous guy on the street with his polaroid to take a few pics?  

You're as transparent as they get, closet boy

 ::) that's your reply?

You really think you're justifying doing that by saying the cameraman had taken similar pictures before?

keep calling yourself a professional. Reminds me of a stripper that calls herself a professional entertainer. Hey Bob would you get in tight little outfits for anyone for cash or just close friends?  ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
Listen up peeroy. I've been lifting since 1994 and I have a natural physique that you can any DREAM of.

 I saw those skinny-fat pictures of you. You are all drugs. I don't need drugs. I'm a natural sex god.

 BOW DOWN.

LOL...please. I was training when you were just a stain running down your mommas leg. You're a natural idiot...feel free to post a pic, wonderboy..I'm sure my Natural physique ran circles around you, while still in my early teens..
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 06:03:34 PM
LOL...please. I was training when you were just a stain running down your mommas leg. You're a natural idiot...feel free to post a pic, wonderboy..I'm sure my Natural physique ran circles around you, while still in my early teens..

 I'm at work so I can't post a picture now. But trust me, I have more knowledge about natural bodybuilding in my little finger than you have in your head. And my physique makes you look like a sloppy Al Bundy. With your sleeveless shirt tucked into your exercise pants and gut spilling over. Man I am a better bodybuilder than you can ever dream of. You will always walk in my shadow.

 
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:05:27 PM
::) that's your reply?

You really think you're justifying doing that by saying the cameraman had taken similar pictures before?

keep calling yourself a professional. Reminds me of a stripper that calls herself a professional entertainer. Hey Bob would you get in tight little outfits for anyone for cash or just close friends?  ::)

bro...it's so obvious your a closet homo, it's not even debatable...

The cameraman was a professional that shoots for the mags, hired to do the shoot...for the book that you could probably still buy today...written by Maggie Greenwood Robinson and John Parrillo, one of the top trainers and innovators of the day.

The "tight little outfits" were "in" back in the early 90's...post a pic of yourself from 92, and we can all have a laugh Mr. Blackwell
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:06:49 PM
I'm at work so I can't post a picture now. But trust me, I have more knowledge about natural bodybuilding in my little finger than you have in your head. And my physique makes you look like a sloppy Al Bundy. With your sleeveless shirt tucked into your exercise pants and gut spilling over. Man I am a better bodybuilder than you can ever dream of. You will always walk in my shadow.

 

LOL...of course you cant post a pic.

I'm Mr. USA....who the fuck are you?
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 06:11:56 PM
LOL...of course you cant post a pic.

I'm Mr. USA....who the fuck are you?

 Everyone knows who I am Buckwheat. You must me living under a fucking rock if you don't know who I am.

 If you want any exercise tips you can PM me. I can help you get rid of that belly.

 
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: DK II on February 10, 2011, 06:12:17 PM
LOL...of course you cant post a pic.

I'm Mr. USA....who the fuck are you?

Pathetic how you feel the need to argue with nobodies on the internet, "Mr. USA".   :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
Just entertaining myself...I've got  few spare minutes. Lighten up, Francis
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Nirvana on February 10, 2011, 06:14:39 PM
Everyone knows who I am Buckwheat. You must me living under a fucking rock if you don't know who I am.

 If you want any exercise tips you can PM me. I can help you get rid of that belly.

 
sick gh15 on his ass
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
bro...it's so obvious your a closet homo, it's not even debatable...

The cameraman was a professional that shoots for the mags, hired to do the shoot...for the book that you could probably still buy today...written by Maggie Greenwood Robinson and John Parrillo, one of the top trainers and innovators of the day.

The "tight little outfits" were "in" back in the early 90's...post a pic of yourself from 92, and we can all have a laugh Mr. Blackwell

I feel like arguing tonight so let's see here

calling me a homo is ad hominem chick, not to mention very childish, aren't you 50 something?

I don't care whether or not the cameraman is use to taking pictures of similar settings with men doing things to men and calling it exercise demonstrations. That doesn't justify you personally thinking that was a good idea, and neither does blaming it on the time period. Come on, you have to have a better reason than that for dressing and posing like that for money? Was it the artistic side of it  :-\ Or will you just do anything for money?

and asking for pictures of me is red herring the argument
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 06:17:06 PM
 Bob Chick is my bitch.

 I fuck him in the ass at The Tropicana a while back.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:35:29 PM
I feel like arguing tonight so let's see here

calling me a homo is ad hominem chick, not to mention very childish, aren't you 50 something?

I don't care whether or not the cameraman is use to taking pictures of similar settings with men doing things to men and calling it exercise demonstrations. That doesn't justify you personally thinking that was a good idea, and neither does blaming it on the time period. Come on, you have to have a better reason than that for dressing and posing like that for money? Was it the artistic side of it  :-\ Or will you just do anything for money?

and asking for pictures of me is red herring the argument

It's not childish...it's a observation....and the funny thing is, even the homos tat aren't afraid to reveal themselves, dint talk about things being "gay", etc as much as you closeted guys do....dint have to be Freud to figure this out.

I never had any issue with my sexuality, and never gave it a second thought as anything but what it was...a photo shoot with someone I respected, and was respected in the community, in a studio with professional photographers, lighting crew, etc...

I suppose if I were in your shoes, where your own repressed sexuality makes you a classic homophobic, I would see it as you do. 

When you watch UFC, do you see two guys trying to knock each other out, or submit to win a contest? Or do you see two athletic virile young men, wrestling all sweaty, trying to gain dominance by mounting  each other and "pin" the other man to the ground?



Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Per Se on February 10, 2011, 06:40:35 PM
It's not childish...it's a observation....and the funny thing is, even the homos tat aren't afraid to reveal themselves, dint talk about things being "gay", etc as much as you closeted guys do....dint have to be Freud to figure this out.

I never had any issue with my sexuality, and never gave it a second thought as anything but what it was...a photo shoot with someone I respected, and was respected in the community, in a studio with professional photographers, lighting crew, etc...

I suppose if I were in your shoes, where your own repressed sexuality makes you a classic homophobic, I would see it as you do. 

When you watch UFC, do you see two guys trying to knock each other out, or submit to win a contest? Or do you see two athletic virile young men, wrestling all sweaty, trying to gain dominance by mounting  each other and "pin" the other man to the ground?





Thanks for ruining my thread guys
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 06:41:21 PM
It's not childish...it's a observation....and the funny thing is, even the homos tat aren't afraid to reveal themselves, dint talk about things being "gay", etc as much as you closeted guys do....dint have to be Freud to figure this out.

I never had any issue with my sexuality, and never gave it a second thought as anything but what it was...a photo shoot with someone I respected, and was respected in the community, in a studio with professional photographers, lighting crew, etc...

I suppose if I were in your shoes, where your own repressed sexuality makes you a classic homophobic, I would see it as you do. 

When you watch UFC, do you see two guys trying to knock each other out, or submit to win a contest? Or do you see two athletic virile young men, wrestling all sweaty, trying to gain dominance by mounting  each other and "pin" the other man to the ground?

Chick, it's sad that you're this old and that's the best response you can come up with. You call me gay, you say the camera shoot wasn't weird because they had a lighting crew and a photographer that does that sort of stuff a lot, you call me gay again, and then you say "well other sports are gay too".

Just to answer your question, I don't watch sports.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
Thanks for ruining my thread guys

I do apologize about that per se. It's just really easy making fun of Chick and that picture of him being posted again made me want to make fun of him. Don't worry, Chick doesn't have much of an argument left in him so I doubt he'll continue for long.

Yes pros should be training harder.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: WillGrant on February 10, 2011, 06:50:15 PM
Mr Mangoo - you stop posting on musclefurs ?  ;D
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: makaveli25 on February 10, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Bodybuilders this day an age are boring lazy oil bags compared to the pros in the 70's. I was watching pumping iron clips before my workout today what a difference the pros actually had some charisma back then. It seemed more like a sport. Arnold, Franco, and even Lou are interesting interviews. Guys today are boring as hell. Dennis Wolf the guy looks like he's half asleep during his interviews and he looks like pasty shit. Arnold and Franco were dressed up nice during the interviews they were pretty good looking dudes that actually looked like athletes. Body building is a joke it sucks now. Oh well.

Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 06:54:40 PM
Mr Mangoo - you stop posting on musclefurs ?  ;D

lmao

every thread I post in...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 06:57:23 PM
Chick, it's sad that you're this old and that's the best response you can come up with. You call me gay, you say the camera shoot wasn't weird because they had a lighting crew and a photographer that does that sort of stuff a lot, you call me gay again, and then you say "well other sports are gay too".

Just to answer your question, I don't watch sports.

LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes.  

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 07:03:48 PM
After seeing the vid of Dennis Wolf's recent training, (back)...it made me think how many of todays top pros perform BOTH squats AND deadlifts in their weekly training splits, like pros of yesterday.

If you're at the top, perhaps commanding 6 figures per year, and all you do is eat-train-sleep, why would you not train as hard as possible? WHY??

Here is your answer:

First, the video you're referring to is a few weeks away from a show, when the pro's are scaling back the workouts...there is no good reason to be doing some of those bulking exercises that close to a show, when clearly you wont be putting on any muscle at that point...

that said, many pro's will cut out the heavy stuff at the 4 week mark, as keeping it in will lead to less separation, especially in the legs

Another factor, is the notion of training SMARTER, not HARDER...the pro's DO rain as hard as possible, while also being cognisant of avoiding injury, and training to their weaknesses, not their strengths...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 10, 2011, 07:05:21 PM
Haha..Chick's a cool dude.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 10, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes.  

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really


Okay Chick, how did I lie when I typed that post describing what was happening in the picture? That's because I didn't lie. I described exactly what was going on. You can call it professional, you can tell yourself that you're still Mr. USA or whatever you tell yourself to justify dressing in thongs and getting up on stage for money or dressing in one piece tight outfits to pose for money, but at the end of the day you're just another muscled up guy flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money. If you was below a certain age and did that, people would claim it was immoral and demand that whoever coerced you into performing such an immoral act be put behind bars immediately. But since you're a grown man, it's called a "sport".
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 10, 2011, 07:29:12 PM

Okay Chick, how did I lie when I typed that post describing what was happening in the picture? That's because I didn't lie. I described exactly what was going on. You can call it professional, you can tell yourself that you're still Mr. USA or whatever you tell yourself to justify dressing in thongs and getting up on stage for money or dressing in one piece tight outfits to pose for money, but at the end of the day you're just another muscled up guy flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money. If you was below a certain age and did that, people would claim it was immoral and demand that whoever coerced you into performing such an immoral act be put behind bars immediately. But since you're a grown man, it's called a "sport".


lol..I see where you're coming from, but it's all a matter of perspective.  Sure, it's easy to view the picures as laughably homo, with the fruity gymwear and the guy grabbing him from around the back - but everyone DID wear that shit back then.  As for the reaching around part...lol...it's how this spotting is to be done.  

Chick states he doesn't feel as though he was contributing to any gay situation, and I believe him.  It's a similar situation on tandem skydives - it LOOKS gay as hell, but usually isn't.  
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: WillGrant on February 10, 2011, 07:30:22 PM
lol..I see where you're coming from, but it's all a matter of persepective.  Sure, it's easy to view the picures as laughably homo, with the fruity gymwear and the guy grabbing him from around the back - but everyone DID wear that shit back then.  As for the reaching around part...lol...it's how this spotting is to be done. 

Chick states he doesn't feel as though he was contributing to any gay situation, and I believe him.  It's a similar situation on tandem skydives - it LOOKS gay as hell, but usually isn't. 
QFT
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Nirvana on February 10, 2011, 07:31:14 PM
it's gay whether you like it or not
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: tommywishbone on February 10, 2011, 07:32:03 PM
I disagree. Not with you Nirvana, the op.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 07:32:15 PM
Okay Chick, how did I lie when I typed that post describing what was happening in the picture? That's because I didn't lie. I described exactly what was going on. You can call it professional, you can tell yourself that you're still Mr. USA or whatever you tell yourself to justify dressing in thongs and getting up on stage for money or dressing in one piece tight outfits to pose for money, but at the end of the day you're just another muscled up guy flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money. If you was below a certain age and did that, people would claim it was immoral and demand that whoever coerced you into performing such an immoral act be put behind bars immediately. But since you're a grown man, it's called a "sport".

Jesus bro...I really dint think I can simplify it anymore than I have.

You DIDN'T lie...you gave an honest answer as to what YOU see in the pic...consider it a Rhorshack test.

Straight guys see it one way...YOU see it another...that's the point.


I didn't have to "tell myself" it was professional...the facts and circumstances dictate that...this wasn't for some seedy underground website, it can be found to this day in a nationally distributed publication.

And yes...there are (and I was one of them)..."muscled up guys flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money"...the straight guys call it " Professional Bodybuilders competing on a stage for a title and prize money"

See...even in your pathetic excuse to try and explain yourself, you subconsciously STILL refer to things as YOU perceive them...

DENIAL...look it up
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 10, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
QFT

Tell these mofos, Will
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: tendonitis on February 10, 2011, 07:36:53 PM
there's nothing wrong with one bro giving another bro a spot
as long as neither bro has a boner
safety first always
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Lundgren on February 10, 2011, 08:26:57 PM
Jesus bro...I really dint think I can simplify it anymore than I have.

You DIDN'T lie...you gave an honest answer as to what YOU see in the pic...consider it a Rhorshack test.

Straight guys see it one way...YOU see it another...that's the point.


I didn't have to "tell myself" it was professional...the facts and circumstances dictate that...this wasn't for some seedy underground website, it can be found to this day in a nationally distributed publication.

And yes...there are (and I was one of them)..."muscled up guys flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money"...the straight guys call it " Professional Bodybuilders competing on a stage for a title and prize money"

See...even in your pathetic excuse to try and explain yourself, you subconsciously STILL refer to things as YOU perceive them...

DENIAL...look it up
No one here thinks your gay. That has never been questioned. However everytime we question wether or not you did some kind of closed door schmoeing, you get all defensive and make 15 page essays on how it's only gay if you want it to be.

This strongly suggest you feel a strong sense of guilt on your past activities.


And yes I like banana's deal with it.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 08:40:58 PM
No one here thinks your gay. That has never been questioned. However everytime we question wether or not you did some kind of closed door schmoeing, you get all defensive and make 15 page essays on how it's only gay if you want it to be.

This strongly suggest you feel a strong sense of guilt on your past activities.


And yes I like banana's deal with it.

Closed door schmoeing, G4P, etc... is a joke...you're either gay/ bisexual and into that stuff or you're not...

As for the "only gay if you want it to be.."...thats your quote, not mine.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Parker on February 10, 2011, 08:43:02 PM
Ou know, I thought that this was about Pros training harder...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 10, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
Pathetic how you feel the need to argue with nobodies on the internet, "Mr. USA".   :-[ :-[ :-[

yeah, and why would ''Mr USA'' wear such a gay clownish looking outfit and have an old dude rub his balls on his backside, oh yeah thats right for money ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2011, 08:46:48 PM
yeah, and why would ''Mr USA'' wear such a gay clownish looking outfit and have an old dude rub his balls on his backside, oh yeah thats right for money ::) ::) ::)

Here...this might help you out...do you know Mr. Magoo..?

LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes. 

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 10, 2011, 08:55:19 PM
Here...this might help you out...do you know Mr. Magoo..?

LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes. 

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really

oh dear, ''Mr USA'' has too much time on his hands ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Lundgren on February 10, 2011, 09:04:09 PM
Here...this might help you out...do you know Mr. Magoo..?

LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes. 

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really
Your insecure on how others see your profession get over it, people are never gonna respect bodybuilders.
Your the equivalent of william shatner, you think your part of something bigger than it actually is.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 10, 2011, 10:16:13 PM
Bodybuilders this day an age are boring lazy oil bags compared to the pros in the 70's. I was watching pumping iron clips before my workout today what a difference the pros actually had some charisma back then. It seemed more like a sport. Arnold, Franco, and even Lou are interesting interviews. Guys today are boring as hell. Dennis Wolf the guy looks like he's half asleep during his interviews and he looks like pasty shit. Arnold and Franco were dressed up nice during the interviews they were pretty good looking dudes that actually looked like athletes. Body building is a joke it sucks now. Oh well.



They trained 10X harder than pros today and actually had fun doing it. They trained for the love of it, pros today train because they have to.

They were real athletes who were show AND go with tons of emotion, natural charisma, and genuinely loved to work out. Notice the scene in P.I. when Ken Waller and the other dude throwing the football around at the park and doing wind sprints making fun of Mike Katz lol. And not only did they look awesome, they were strong as hell and actually used to ATTRACT women instead of drive them away! They blew up hot water balloons, bent iron horseshoes with their bare hands, did 600lb+ squats, ripped LA phone books in half, played sports- you name it they did it or would try and do it! All while competing in the highest level of bodybuilding competitions in pro circuit. And some of them even did Worlds Strongest Man Competitions too! ;D

Fans wanted to see real life Herculean action figures with incredible size, density and power and who packed on mass to kick ass, not to impress a bunch of sex starved little freaks like todays IFBB pros. I also notice how f#cking serious these guys take themselves too with their dull boring ass personalities narrow minds stuck in the puny bodybuilding world. And thats exactly why they get the rep that they do, so they should quit acting like a bunch of overinflated bozos and stop whining about why their looked down on as a group.

Todays pros arent bodybuilders neither, they are body exploiters.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 10, 2011, 10:33:24 PM
Listen up peeroy. I've been lifting since 1994 and I have a natural physique that you can any DREAM of.

 I saw those skinny-fat pictures of you at the expo. You are all drugs. I don't need drugs. I'm a natural sex god.

 BOW DOWN.

1994? I was already training 17 years by then!!!
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Firemuscle on February 10, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
1994? I was already training 17 years by then!!!

 That's because you are like 17 years older than me Cooch. I guess that makes us even.

 
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: wild willie on February 10, 2011, 10:43:20 PM
After seeing the vid of Dennis Wolf's recent training, (back)...it made me think how many of todays top pros perform BOTH squats AND deadlifts in their weekly training splits, like pros of yesterday.

If you're at the top, perhaps commanding 6 figures per year, and all you do is eat-train-sleep, why would you not train as hard as possible? WHY??
Ever hear the saying......TRAIN SMART

Avoiding injuries 3 weeks out from a show is of utmost importance to top level bbers like Wolf

Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: dj181 on February 11, 2011, 01:27:59 AM
A friend of mine was living out in the "mecca of bodybuilding" back in 2002 til 2004, and he witnessed many of the pros training, and he told me that they only trained their legs very hard. And on an unrelated side note, this friend of mine trained Tom Byron at da time 8)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 11, 2011, 03:22:43 AM
no way dude

This picture shows pro's getting harder when they train
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: wes on February 11, 2011, 03:32:57 AM
They trained 10X harder than pros today and actually had fun doing it. They trained for the love of it, pros today train because they have to.

They were real athletes who were show AND go with tons of emotion, natural charisma, and genuinely loved to work out. Notice the scene in P.I. when Ken Waller and the other dude throwing the football around at the park and doing wind sprints making fun of Mike Katz lol. And not only did they look awesome, they were strong as hell and actually used to ATTRACT women instead of drive them away! They blew up hot water balloons, bent iron horseshoes with their bare hands, did 600lb+ squats, ripped LA phone books in half, played sports- you name it they did it or would try and do it! All while competing in the highest level of bodybuilding competitions in pro circuit. And some of them even did Worlds Strongest Man Competitions too! ;D

Fans wanted to see real life Herculean action figures with incredible size, density and power and who packed on mass to kick ass, not to impress a bunch of sex starved little freaks like todays IFBB pros. I also notice how f#cking serious these guys take themselves too with their dull boring ass personalities narrow minds stuck in the puny bodybuilding world. And thats exactly why they get the rep that they do, so they should quit acting like a bunch of overinflated bozos and stop whining about why their looked down on as a group.

Todays pros arent bodybuilders neither, they are body exploiters.

Good post!
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: biff on February 11, 2011, 03:45:45 AM
They trained 10X harder than pros today ...



funny thing about that - arthur jones, mentzer, darden and friends used to attack Arnold for being a lazy trainer.
claimed he would never push himself, wouldnt do the 'last few reps' (meaning failure), etc.

i think in the end its just a way to attack those at the top - jones was trying to get in on the weiders empire, and discrediting their champ was the best way to do it. also an average gymrat can make himself feel better by saying he trains the right way, 'hardcore', and he feels less bad about the 'lazy' pro who outweighs him by 100 pounds.

the rest of your post is spot on, imo
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: spude on February 11, 2011, 03:49:43 AM
Ok gays...let's clarify this a bit with little Q/A...

Q1: Are those pics of Bob Chick "squatting" directed towards gay audience?
A1: Yes, they are.
Q2: Did Bob get payed for doing that photoshoot?
A2: Yes he did.
Q3: Did his job at that time include any further "sexual activities"?
A3: Not that I'm aware of?
Q4: Does posing for money for gay audience make you gay?
A4: No.
Q5: Would you as a straight guy pose for money for gay audience?
A5: Yes you would, all depends on the financial compensation.
Q6: Are you guys jealous because Chick gets paid for basically doing nothing?
A6: Yes, you are.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 11, 2011, 03:49:51 AM

funny thing about that - arthur jones, mentzer, darden and friends used to attack Arnold for being a lazy trainer.
claimed he would never push himself, wouldnt do the 'last few reps' (meaning failure), etc.

i think in the end its just a way to attack those at the top - jones was trying to get in on the weiders empire, and discrediting their champ was the best way to do it. also an average gymrat can make himself feel better by saying he trains the right way, 'hardcore', and he feels less bad about the 'lazy' pro who outweighs him by 100 pounds.

the rest of your post is spot on, imo

I watched Pumping Iron again the other day. Those guys looked awesome. The Pro's today are a bit too much. Not from a wanting to look like that, but it doesn't look as good as Arnold, Serge etc.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 11, 2011, 04:04:37 AM

intense back workout to bring up his back
 :-\
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 11, 2011, 12:41:21 PM

intense back workout to bring up his back
 :-\

LOL where are the 450lb+ barbells rows? Where are the 650lb+ bare handed dead-lifts? This is the reason why most pros today lack the Herculean type power physique. All drugs, no base, foundation or density. Take him off the drugs for a year and he'd be f#ck all.

I'd like to know what this guys lifts would be if he did go off the gear for a while. I bet there would be tons of naturals on this very site that would outlift him and be more impressive. I can't believe I used to buy into the IFBB mirage when I was a young teen lifting weights in my parents shed in the bleak sub zero winter.

I could never see these guys even training without drugs or lifting buckets of sand and busting their asses to to gain solid muscle.
No disrespect to Dennis Wolf though, he is a great "athlete"  ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 11, 2011, 12:51:41 PM
exactly they are just lazy
all drugs gurus and machines

Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on February 11, 2011, 12:54:44 PM
Jesus bro...I really dint think I can simplify it anymore than I have.

You DIDN'T lie...you gave an honest answer as to what YOU see in the pic...consider it a Rhorshack test.

Straight guys see it one way...YOU see it another...that's the point.


I didn't have to "tell myself" it was professional...the facts and circumstances dictate that...this wasn't for some seedy underground website, it can be found to this day in a nationally distributed publication.

And yes...there are (and I was one of them)..."muscled up guys flexing in a small outfit in exchange for money"...the straight guys call it " Professional Bodybuilders competing on a stage for a title and prize money"

See...even in your pathetic excuse to try and explain yourself, you subconsciously STILL refer to things as YOU perceive them...

DENIAL...look it up
Great owning by Chick....It's true. A fag will look at a pic and see gayness, even if it's not there.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: ManBearPig... on February 11, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
Here...this might help you out...do you know Mr. Magoo..?

LOL...of course you dont

You're not gay, you'e confused at this point in your life...it's all about perception, my repressed friend...I didnt call other sports gay, I asked how YOU viewed it...kind of says how your brain thinks and processes. 

I'll dumb it down for you....

see, the regular straight guy sees a UFC fight, and sees two guys fighting to win....never a homosexual thought enters their mind...

YOU see nothing of the sort, but imagine what it would be like to be on the bottom as the muscular fighter mounts you in the guard position...you see their bodies rubbing together , etc...

Just as you saw that pic of me demo-ing an exercise with a trainer spotting, you chose to describe it much differently with references to "tiny outfits", and him "reaching around..",  "my ass", "some guy shooting it.." as if it was in some dimly lit basement...etc..

Hope this helps you to stop living in denial and just be yourself...it's much more liberating.

It's OK....really

Well, finish the story stud, i'm about to bust here!
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Lundgren on February 11, 2011, 01:00:41 PM
Heavy lifting is the dumbest fucking thing ever. How does lifting ever benefit anyone.

It doesn't make you healthy in fact it makes you worst off. It doesn't make you look any better. It makes your endurance go down in any real sports.  It doesn't even make you more powerful.  It's one thing to have functional power, but that's mostly found in your legs which itself has little to do with benching.

And yes I'm a skinny fat bald twink, who can't lift.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 11, 2011, 01:10:27 PM
Heavy lifting is the dumbest fucking thing ever. How does lifting ever benefit anyone.

It doesn't make you healthy in fact it makes you worst off. It doesn't make you look any better. It makes your endurance go down in any real sports.  It doesn't even make you more powerful.  It's one thing to have functional power, but that's mostly found in your legs which itself has little to do with benching.

And yes I'm a skinny fat bald twink, who can't lift.
ronnie dorian and jay arnold
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 11, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
a big thick back mr o back comes from training hard
not this
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: axestream on February 11, 2011, 01:13:51 PM
I am demonstrating the exercise

Too bad you failed. Heels are not supposed to come off the floor.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: dj181 on February 11, 2011, 02:00:42 PM
Suprised dat nobody caught my mention of my friend training Tom Byron. You know, The Tom Byron who has starred in more porno flicks than any one else ;D
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: JasonH on February 11, 2011, 02:19:32 PM
Haha - I love these Getbigger vs Chick arguments!  ;D
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: L00n on February 11, 2011, 02:25:38 PM

intense back workout to bring up his back
 :-\

you think that`s his real workout ? seriously...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 11, 2011, 02:44:24 PM
Great owning by Chick....It's true. A fag will look at a pic and see gayness, even if it's not there.

It was not an owning. It was a 50 year old man using positive illusions to justify his lifestyle and he tries to call me gay to take attention away from what he did.

I don't agree with the whole "well if Chick thought it was okay, it gives him a free pass to do whatever he wants without any criticism." I'm 100% confident that most female fitness models when arching their back, pouring water over their white tanks, etc, while posing for magazine spreads do not think they are doing anything demeaning. I disagree. I don't think certain behavior should be tolerated simply because those participating in that behavior don't see what's wrong with it. In my opinion, a grown man wearing that outfit and doing exercises like that falls into that category. Yes this can be applied over a wide spectrum of similar situations.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 11, 2011, 02:48:10 PM
Haha - I love these Getbigger vs Chick arguments!  ;D

anytime man  :D

I enjoy arguing with Chick as long as I'm not boring anybody else or as long as Chick doesn't take it too seriously.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: biff on February 11, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
I watched Pumping Iron again the other day. Those guys looked awesome. The Pro's today are a bit too much. Not from a wanting to look like that, but it doesn't look as good as Arnold, Serge etc.

i agree, with you, the 70's look is the best, well beyond normal mass yet still overall pleasing to the eye.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: biff on February 11, 2011, 02:50:45 PM


You DIDN'T lie...you gave an honest answer as to what YOU see in the pic...consider it a Rhorshack test.

Straight guys see it one way...YOU see it another...that's the point.




bob with all due respect, show that picture to anyone and they will have a "wtf is this gay shit" type reaction.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: andreisdaman on February 11, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Appreciate that bro...


Why did you leave PBW Bob?....you were really entertaining....give us a scoop
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 11, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
Appreciate that bro...

Bob,

PBW has turned into a worthless shitstain without you.

Fucking Shame...
"1"
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 11, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
Heavy lifting is the dumbest fucking thing ever. How does lifting ever benefit anyone.

It doesn't make you healthy in fact it makes you worst off. It doesn't make you look any better. It makes your endurance go down in any real sports.  It doesn't even make you more powerful.  It's one thing to have functional power, but that's mostly found in your legs which itself has little to do with benching.

And yes I'm a skinny fat bald twink, who can't lift.

Lifting heavy is the best way to gain huge size. Bodybuilders who are built on all drugs and machines dont have the same visual muscle quality as a physique build with heavy compound movements. Bodyparts are supposed to look like they are formed as one huge mechanical muscle, not like a bunch of bodyparts thrown together on top of a skeleton. 

When a bodybuilder is lacking muscle density on stage it shows immediately. A physique built on machines does not look the same as a physique built on heavy free weights and unconventional exercises. Maybe they all look the same to you, but I'd much prefer the show AND go look instead of a blown up marsh mellow.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 11, 2011, 04:42:45 PM
It was not an owning. It was a 50 year old man using positive illusions to justify his lifestyle and he tries to call me gay to take attention away from what he did.

I don't agree with the whole "well if Chick thought it was okay, it gives him a free pass to do whatever he wants without any criticism." I'm 100% confident that most female fitness models when arching their back, pouring water over their white tanks, etc, while posing for magazine spreads do not think they are doing anything demeaning. I disagree. I don't think certain behavior should be tolerated simply because those participating in that behavior don't see what's wrong with it. In my opinion, a grown man wearing that outfit and doing exercises like that falls into that category. Yes this can be applied over a wide spectrum of similar situations.

On that we agree...it was no "owning"...it was a revelation.

I don't have to take attention away from anything, I'm not embarrassed by it, and it was shot for a national publication...not like it was dug up from some old underground shit from a past I would like to forget...

The fact that you're a homophobe and see things in a wide spectrum that are similar, only reinforce the fact that you have issues with your sexuality and are probably in the closet.

I see you failed to answer the question I asked as to how you would view a MMA fight...wonder why?
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: che on February 11, 2011, 04:56:18 PM
Pathetic how you feel the need to argue with nobodies on the internet, "Mr. USA".   :-[ :-[ :-[
Haha
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 11, 2011, 05:01:46 PM

Why did you leave PBW Bob?....you were really entertaining....give us a scoop

I left because there were some business dynamics that changed along the way, and I have to be able to justify my time, etc....I have other projects I'm working on, and chose to put full  time/effort into making them happen...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Devon97 on February 11, 2011, 05:26:40 PM
Heavy lifting is the dumbest fucking thing ever. How does lifting ever benefit anyone.

It doesn't make you healthy in fact it makes you worst off. It doesn't make you look any better. It makes your endurance go down in any real sports.  It doesn't even make you more powerful.  It's one thing to have functional power, but that's mostly found in your legs which itself has little to do with benching.

And yes I'm a skinny fat bald twink, who can't lift.

No one said it makes you HEALTHY you socialist! It makes your muscles GROW!
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Lundgren on February 11, 2011, 05:41:02 PM
Lifting heavy is the best way to gain huge size. Bodybuilders who are built on all drugs and machines dont have the same visual muscle quality as a physique build with heavy compound movements. Bodyparts are supposed to look like they are formed as one huge mechanical muscle, not like a bunch of bodyparts thrown together on top of a skeleton. 

When a bodybuilder is lacking muscle density on stage it shows immediately. A physique built on machines does not look the same as a physique built on heavy free weights and unconventional exercises. Maybe they all look the same to you, but I'd much prefer the show AND go look instead of a blown up marsh mellow.
Lol your a master of bro science my friend, you should right a book.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 11, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
anytime man  :D

I enjoy arguing with Chick as long as I'm not boring anybody else or as long as Chick doesn't take it too seriously.

you might want to give it a rest then
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 11, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
I see you failed to answer the question I asked as to how you would view a MMA fight...wonder why?

I did answer. I said that I do not watch sports. I disagree with two men fighting each other for money on different grounds.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 11, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
you might want to give it a rest then

damn  :(
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 11, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
Lol your a master of bro science my friend, you should right a book.


No science about it! If you were huge you'd already know all of this, boy!
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 11, 2011, 06:55:07 PM
I did answer. I said that I do not watch sports. I disagree with two men fighting each other for money on different grounds.

Yep....pretty much seals the deal.

Contact Bay to get your card in the mail...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Ursus on February 11, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Basically if you would be embarassed doing something infront of your father/grandfather you know its a gay activity or at the minimum one with sordid undertones
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 11, 2011, 07:03:00 PM
Yep....pretty much seals the deal.

Contact Bay to get your card in the mail...

I disagree with sports on the basis of arguments from Peter Singer (not sports for being sports, but what sports has mutated into).

not because i'm gay. You're an idiot Chick.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 11, 2011, 07:09:34 PM
I disagree with sports on the basis of arguments from Peter Singer (not sports for being sports, but what sports has mutated into).

not because i'm gay. You're an idiot Chick.

LOL....Ok...if you say so ::)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: El_Pajero II on February 11, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
Chick the men that are locked up would literally destroy you if you ever show up in prison. Don't sell those steroids man, it ain't worth the time.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Spike on February 11, 2011, 07:38:36 PM
Not the brightest bunch here....big surprise ::)


No, I didnt need a spot...it was a demonstration shoot for John Parrillos book, as I am demonstrating the exercise, and he is demoing the spoting technique....It wasnt my shaft in someone ass, it was his in MINE fckn winnos.



FIXED ;)
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: andreisdaman on February 11, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
I left because there were some business dynamics that changed along the way, and I have to be able to justify my time, etc....I have other projects I'm working on, and chose to put full  time/effort into making them happen...


Thanks Bob.....are you ever going to compete again?..is your wife against you competing and putting your health at risk?
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Meso_z on February 11, 2011, 11:30:40 PM
you think that`s his real workout ? seriously...
I personaly think his real workout is even worse.
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 11, 2011, 11:51:15 PM
Yep....pretty much seals the deal.

Contact Bay to get your card in the mail...

  :D lol
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: devilsmile on February 12, 2011, 12:21:54 AM

intense back workout to bring up his back
 :-\

HAHAHAH...... that was pATHETIC!


Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: gh15 on February 12, 2011, 01:35:36 AM
LOL where are the 450lb+ barbells rows? Where are the 650lb+ bare handed dead-lifts? This is the reason why most pros today lack the Herculean type power physique. All drugs, no base, foundation or density. Take him off the drugs for a year and he'd be f#ck all.

I'd like to know what this guys lifts would be if he did go off the gear for a while. I bet there would be tons of naturals on this very site that would outlift him and be more impressive. I can't believe I used to buy into the IFBB mirage when I was a young teen lifting weights in my parents shed in the bleak sub zero winter.

I could never see these guys even training without drugs or lifting buckets of sand and busting their asses to to gain solid muscle.
No disrespect to Dennis Wolf though, he is a great "athlete"  ::)

yes we are all drugs,,yes we all gh steroid and insulin later on ,,but! if you think we dont train hard and dont work the best possible way to bring up muscle,, then you are in lala land,,we train VERY HARD,,THE HORMONE ITSELF WILL NOT GET THE FINAL LOOK YOU SEE ,,IT IS HORMONES WITH TRAINING AND FOOD,,THE TRAINING HA TO BE THERE,,IT HAS TO BE CONSISTANT AND HAS TO BE SMART HEAVY FOR MOST PART BUT SMART TOO,,TRAINING GOT TO BE THERE,,EVERY BODYBUILD TRAIN ,,AND EVERY SUCESFUL BODYBUILDER PUT EVERYTHIGN HE GOT IN TRAINING OFCOURSE HORMONES ARE ALWAYS THERE BUT THE TRAINING IS THERE TOO,,YOU NEED TO UTILIZE THE HORMONE AND PART OF IT IS VIA TRAINING THEN REST AND FOOD BUT YOU HAVE TO TRAIN MY FRIEND,,ANYTHING THAT STIMULATE THE MUSCLE = TRAINING,,HEAVY TRAINING IS VERY GOOD BUT ALSO SMART TRAINING IS IMPORTANT INTO YOUR 30S,,NO MATTER HO YOU ARE,,YOU NEED TRAING SMARTER WHEN YOU CROSS 35,,MUCH SMARTER,,STILL HEAVY BUT MARTER,,LISTEN TO BODY MORE,,ETC ETC

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: Chick on February 13, 2011, 07:03:56 AM

Thanks Bob.....are you ever going to compete again?..is your wife against you competing and putting your health at risk?

No...BBers (or any athletes) shouldnt "come back". When your done, you're done...
Title: Re: Pros should train HARDER??
Post by: che on February 13, 2011, 07:06:15 AM
No...BBers (or any athletes) shouldnt "come back". When your done, you're done...

 ::)