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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
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Congrats
If you have never been in a managing position before you have a steep learning curve, its very very complex especially when yoiu have
manager people and tickle the best out of them.
Just remember:
You don't want to control you want to lead.
Lead with excample
Admit your wrongdoings
SHOW HONEST AND GOOD GRATITUDE - Make a point of saying thank you if you mean it.
Don't be a though guy
Be honest and I guarantee you it will be respected
Don't shy away from giving people bad news it depends on how you deliver news.
Learn to listen and I mean really listen to people
And the most important one (at least for me)
Always always always... when you make a decission, do these things...
1) Put the breaks on
2) Think about it
3) Think some more about it
4) Than make your decisions
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^^^
LOL
what kind of business is it?
sales, service, office type manager?
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Wiggs, congrats and in all seriousness, I was in a similar situation. My advice is to KNOW going in that the people who work for you will not behave like your subordinates did in the military. I know you will probably think "I know that" but I bet at some point, this post will cross your mind. Some of the things "adults" do in the workplace is flat out crazy....and often your hands will feel tied. Good luck !
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^^^
LOL
what kind of business is it?
sales, service, office type manager?
Sales/retail.
I have traditionally been an HR Manager which is usually outside the regular chain of command. So while I have managed, it's always been as an HR guy. My last job being the Director of Human Resources.
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I thought 7/11 only hired Arabs?
J/k :))
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I thought 7/11 only hired Arabs?
J/k :))
:-* ;D Thanks Coach
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I thought 7/11 only hired Arabs?
J/k :))
;D
....Hope it works out well Wiggs.
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An employed Black man!? Getbig cliches take another beating. ;D
/good for you!
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Congrats
If you have never been in a managing position before you have a steep learning curve, its very very complex especially when yoiu have
manager people and tickle the best out of them.
Just remember:
You don't want to control you want to lead.
Lead with excample
Admit your wrongdoings
SHOW HONEST AND GOOD GRATITUDE - Make a point of saying thank you if you mean it.
Don't be a though guy
Be honest and I guarantee you it will be respected
Don't shy away from giving people bad news it depends on how you deliver news.
Learn to listen and I mean really listen to people
And the most important one (at least for me)
Always always always... when you make a decission, do these things...
1) Put the breaks on
2) Think about it
3) Think some more about it
4) Than make your decisions
Thanks Stark I appreciate your input and I will remember it all.
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Sales/retail.
I have traditionally been an HR Manager which is usually outside the regular chain of command. So while I have managed, it's always been as an HR guy. My last job being the Director of Human Resources.
ever been in sales?
what are you selling if you dont mind me asking?
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"Howdy folks, How ya'll doing today" says the rotund manager, grinning like a Cheshire cat as dozens of parents quickly hurry by, clutching their children and valuables.
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ever been in sales?
what are you selling if you dont mind me asking?
Cell Phones, Big 3 company.
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Wiggs is going to be the new President of Egypt... CNN just reported it.
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Thanks Stark I appreciate your input and I will remember it all.
I wrote that before I saw that you were HR director - so you're probably fully aware of it all.
Didn't want to sound like I am the almighty ubermanager and didn't want to patronize you.
Good luck and I'm happy for you.
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Beware of the backstabbers and frienemies!
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Beware of the backstabbers and frienemies!
He posts on GB he should know all about it and be fine...
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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
When I first read this, I read it as being "to negotiate Slavery". LOLOLOL
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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
Congratulations Tom, and good luck...
Tips? Just make sure you say "yes suh, no suh" to the man, and you'll do just fine... ;)
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When I first read this, I read it as being "to negotiate Slavery". LOLOLOL
LOL...... ;D
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Cell Phones, Big 3 company.
ever been in sales?
I think to be a good manager in sales especially in areas where you are expected to make lots of individual sales with add ons you need to understand what the sales ppl are dealing with.
its ok to remind them that they are there to sale but in a way that shows youre there for them if they need your help with training and questions. Dont just tell someone they need to get their numbers up, ask if there is anything they need help with or if they specifically struggling in an area that you could help them with.
get ready to role play your ass off...thats the best way to practice sales imho
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If you dont agree with your salaryjust call them racists and threaten to sue them, you can sue people for anything in the land of the free.
Good luck ;D
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LOL...... ;D
thats not funny you god damn racist.
you have no idea what Im going through as the only black male in sweden,
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thats not funny you god damn racist.
you have no idea what Im going through as the only black male in sweden,
It's racist to think that a thug ambushing some drunk dude with accomplices, beating him and then robbing him like you did makes one black.
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ever been in sales?
I think to be a good manager in sales especially in areas where you are expected to make lots of individual sales with add ons you need to understand what the sales ppl are dealing with.
its ok to remind them that they are there to sale but in a way that shows youre there for them if they need your help with training and questions. Dont just tell someone they need to get their numbers up, ask if there is anything they need help with or if they specifically struggling in an area that you could help them with.
get ready to role play your ass off...thats the best way to practice sales imho
Good advice. I hated roll playing when i first started, but you find out it does have it's place. the only problem being that only about 25% of the sales ever go like a roll play... haha
I think another good thing in sales is to implement follow-up with customers. Don't know if his current company does it, but if not they should start. Helps identify weaknesses and causes your customers to spread good word of mouth....
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It's racist to think that a thug ambushing some drunk dude with accomplices, beating him and then robbing him like you did makes one black.
nice to see the story has taken on its own life lol.
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It's racist to think that a thug ambushing some drunk dude with accomplices, beating him and then robbing him like you did makes one black.
But swede loved that moment in his life. :-\ Just let hive bask in all of his Glory. :-\ :-\
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Good advice. I hated roll playing when i first started, but you find out it does have it's place. the only problem being that only about 25% of the sales ever go like a roll play... haha
I think another good thing in sales is to implement follow-up with customers. Don't know if his current company does it, but if not they should start. Helps identify weaknesses and causes your customers to spread good word of mouth....
I agree especially with the scripted role plays, In all my sales jobs we would role play with fellow sales ppl who knew the situations we encountered and would steer it that way so it helped more.
also some funny ass shit when you get bored and just start trying to fuck with one another to see what the other person does while still trying to stay in character...
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I agree especially with the scripted role plays, In all my sales jobs we would role play with fellow sales ppl who knew the situations we encountered and would steer it that way.
also some funny as shit when you get bored and just start trying to fuck with one another to see what the other person does while still trying to stay in character...
haha, we did that too....had bi-yearly sales meetings with owners/mgmt and we always had a lot of fun with the new guys.....have them second guessing and backtracking on stuff they KNEW.....
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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
give some pointers to swede because i swear he's been unemployed for at least 4-5 yrs, or has gone through something like 10-15 PT jobs.
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give some pointers to swede because i swear he's been unemployed for at least 4-5 yrs, or has gone through something like 10-15 PT jobs.
had a job for 6 months a while back? so you shouldnt "swear" anything no?
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Learn the art of flattery and mental appeasement. When selling, all you need to do is boost their confidence to outrageous levels, get them in a high, and then reassure their mind that whatever product you are selling is necessary in order for their little mind to be at ease.
All people want is to feel good about themselves and they also need reassurance. You can also bring in a third party, unknown to your mark, to flatter, calm and reassure. Nothing beats solid confirmation of quality and experience from another source other than yourself.
Also, create and further their desire for whatever product you are selling. If they feel they simply cannot live without your product, then they will be BEGGING you to sell it to them, even if you raise the price.
I could go on for years...
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Learn the art of flattery and mental appeasement. When selling, all you need to do is boost their confidence to outrageous levels, get them in a high, and then reassure their mind that whatever product you are selling is necessary in order for their little mind to be at ease.
All people want is to feel good about themselves and they also need reassurance. You can also bring in a third party, unknown to your mark, to flatter, calm and reassure. Nothing beats solid confirmation of quality and experience from another source other than yourself.
Also, create and further their desire for whatever product you are selling. If they feel they simply cannot live without your product, then they will be BEGGING you to sell it to them, even if you raise the price.
I could go on for years...
A lot of truth/wisdom in this post.
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had a job for 6 months a while back? so you shouldnt "swear" anything no?
that's what i'm saying. there was a time on getbig you made a post monthly about losing or getting a new job than out the door for some reason.
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i really wish i could find a position in sweden and help you out, really do.
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Don't be afraid to show off some skin. Be real perky, and smile a lot.
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Hope when Wiggs goes in for the "salary" negotiation he remembers to drop some "yo's" and "wif's" in the conversation......and he should feel free to tell them he "keeps it real." should boost by $10k starting out.....
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that's what i'm saying. there was a time on getbig you made a post monthly about losing or getting a new job than out the door for some reason.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/Miss%20Sweden.jpg)
i really wish i could find a position in sweden and help you out, really do.
lol. 2 jobs didnt end well (one of them was a internship with NO chance of further employment) and the last one was just a 6 month employment
And to top it of the job with no chance of empolyment I almost broke my knee on the first day and was limping like a #### (while carrying stuff) for the rest of the time and got laid off because "lack of motivvation" lol.
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Hope when Wiggs goes in for the "salary" negotiation he remembers to drop some "yo's" and "wif's" in the conversation......and he should feel free to tell them he "keeps it real." should boost by $10k starting out.....
LOL. Also needs to keep one pantleg rolled up, wear lots of bling, and pimp roll his walk.
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Are you the fat black guy dressed in the Statue of Liberty outfit handing out flyers to the discount electronics store outside of the subway station on Fulton Street? If so, can I give you my resume?
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Hope when Wiggs goes in for the "salary" negotiation he remembers to drop some "yo's" and "wif's" in the conversation......and he should feel free to tell them he "keeps it real." should boost by $10k starting out.....
lol...I bet my left nut I sound whiter than you. ;D
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lol...I bet my left nut I sound whiter than you. ;D
this might be a good challenge.
I CAN BE THE JUDGE
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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
You bastard me too you stole my thunder :-\, but i guess kneegrows getting employed is still more impressive than the mentally ill.
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lol...I bet my left nut I sound whiter than you. ;D
;D I don't know man, I do a pretty mean cracker when called upon.....I guess it depends on what you mean by "whiter..."
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;D I don't know man, I do a pretty mean cracker when called upon.....I guess it depends on what you mean by "whiter..."
he starts out with his white voice..
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Just joking wiggy, congrats and good luck. Hope things workout well!
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Find the "leader", not the highest supervisor, but the real leader...and pistol whoop his ass the first day, you'll get mad respect after that YO!!!
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Find the "leader", not the highest supervisor, but the real leader...and pistol whoop his ass the first day, you'll get mad respect after that YO!!!
BITE his fucking ear off to show them you're NUTS.
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he starts out with his white voice..
LOL.....
a local reporter was shopping in my store one day and he was speaking to me like he did on air....very well spoken.....a couple of guys who did deliveries for me stopped in.....they were black.....and when he spoke to them it was totally different....when he left I told them and they cracked on him for a week....hahaha..... he's still on the news here.
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WOW...It took a year but oh well. It's my first upper management job and I'll have my own store. Won't say what it is for obvious reasons.
Listen up black fellas. When you're an uncle tom like me and marry white, talk white, act white, and think white, good things happen. :D ;D
I go in tomorrow to negotiate salary. Any tips ladies and fellas? I'm not really good at this being a career military man.
LOL. Man you are a trip.
As far as negotiating salary, find your mean salary for the position and location you will be working the job. Add Ten grand on top of that. They'll start low..you start high..they'll knock your experience in that area...you come back with living expenses in 2011, travel, gas, education level, experience overall..etc(the reasons they said they wanted to hire you) you guys will meet in the middle or they may just fall on your initial request.
I'm close with our HR Director here and you won't believe some of the clowns that have been hired here that come in day one six figures..etc and when I talk with them finally (IT Director) I think "how in the hell did this fool pull the 6" they are complete idiots YET they showed up on salary negotiation day..and that is all that matters so I can't hate.
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Big wiggs reppin getbig with a job. woooooooooooo. Time to party. What you got on my 40 brah?!
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he starts out with his white voice..
Lol IRl the trasition from speaking with an accent to white, it the best laugh in life. Especially when the people your talking to think your uneducated.
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This goes for any job where you're in a position of power...but no matter how good or well liked you are there will always be people who will talk shit and dislike you. This goes double when you work with a lot of women.
All the jobs I've ever had the managers were always pretty decent and good ...and ALWAYS there are people who make them out to be absolute assholes. So you can't win.
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This goes for any job where you're in a position of power...but no matter how good or well liked you are there will always be people who will talk shit and dislike you. This goes double when you work with a lot of women.
All the jobs I've ever had the managers were always pretty decent and good ...and ALWAYS there are people who make them out to be absolute assholes. So you can't win.
100% agree. This happened to me as the Director of HR and I was 100% for the people, yet, somehow I would always have people in my office telling me the latest rumors about me sleeping with my hot secretary (I didn't) I don't shit where I eat it's a cardinal rule for me. Or some other bullshit. None have ever been proven true and even my bosses just laughed them off.
I'm stern but always fair. Be on time! I'm HUGE on customer service (i.e. manners) and not wearing feelings on your sleeve., Don't steal and most of all DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME!!! You lie and we're done. I'm a very fair and resonable persone.
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Are you the fat black guy dressed in the Statue of Liberty outfit handing out flyers to the discount electronics store outside of the subway station on Fulton Street? If so, can I give you my resume?
I saw the same dude?! WTF
good going Wiggs, but hopefully this will motivate you to lose weight. Because your subs are going to make fun of the Fat Black Guy Who Sounds Like A Cross Between Barney The Dinosaur And Mr. Rogers. You need a image of "management", you can't go that "safe route" anymore...
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I saw the same dude?! WTF
good going Wiggs, but hopefully this will motivate you to lose weight. Because your subs are going to make fun of the Fat Black Guy Who Sounds Like A Cross Between Barney The Dinosaur And Mr. Rogers. You need a image of "management", you can't go that "safe route" anymore...
GH, buffet! :D
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100% agree. This happened to me as the Director of HR and I was 100% for the people, yet, somehow I would always have people in my office telling me the latest rumors about me sleeping with my hot secretary (I didn't) I don't shit where I eat it's a cardinal rule for me. Or some other bullshit. None have ever been proven true and even my bosses just laughed them off.
I'm stern but always fair. Be on time! I'm HUGE on customer service (i.e. manners) and not wearing feelings on your sleeve., Don't steal and most of all DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME!!! You lie and we're done. I'm a very fair and resonable persone.
Whatever you do never admit to the truth. That whatever your selling is complete bullshit. Make sure you pretend to value what your selling even if it's mouse pads.
Also don't give in to women ever, you give an inch they take a mile, especially if your friendly with them.
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Wiggs is now a working actor
Congrats
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100% agree. This happened to me as the Director of HR and I was 100% for the people, yet, somehow I would always have people in my office telling me the latest rumors about me sleeping with my hot secretary (I didn't) I don't shit where I eat it's a cardinal rule for me. Or some other bullshit. None have ever been proven true and even my bosses just laughed them off.
I'm stern but always fair. Be on time! I'm HUGE on customer service (i.e. manners) and not wearing feelings on your sleeve., Don't steal and most of all DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME!!! You lie and we're done. I'm a very fair and resonable persone.
Customer Service is KING. Congrats Wiggs, Black Jews have a place in the work world. 8)
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Wiggs is now a working actor
Congrats
Good one..Thanks
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YES WE CAN! ;D
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Wiggs is now a working actor
Congrats
Are you saying that Wiggs got a role to play a manager of a cellphone store? And that after the Winter season is over, his gig is up?
*And that's classically trained Thespian, to you!
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BTW for those that have ever questioned my desire to work,
I'll sum it up. Most of you know that Las Vegas has the highest unemployment rate in the country. (I believe it's still hovering around around 13%). We bottom out in many bad categories. Being that I have degrees, I come to be good friends with the term: overqualified. I was even instructed to start leaving my degrees off ::) If you live here, you'd know how shitty it is...Outside of the strip, it's pretty fucked up.
It's been rough but I'm glad it's over.
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Congrats
If you have never been in a managing position before you have a steep learning curve, its very very complex especially when yoiu have
manager people and tickle the best out of them.
Just remember:
You don't want to control you want to lead.
Lead with excample
Admit your wrongdoings
SHOW HONEST AND GOOD GRATITUDE - Make a point of saying thank you if you mean it.
Don't be a though guy
Be honest and I guarantee you it will be respected
Don't shy away from giving people bad news it depends on how you deliver news.
Learn to listen and I mean really listen to people
And the most important one (at least for me)
Always always always... when you make a decission, do these things...
1) Put the breaks on
2) Think about it
3) Think some more about it
4) Than make your decisions
Good points!
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Awesome song 8)
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Working as a manager, I've found you can divide your people into two types:
1. Those who look for ways to get things done.
2. Those who look for excuses for why things can't get done.
Leave the first group alone. Ride the second group mercilessly.
Good luck.
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you are awesome too
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BTW for those that have ever questioned my desire to work,
I'll sum it up. Most of you know that Las Vegas has the highest unemployment rate in the country. (I believe it's still hovering around around 13%). We bottom out in many bad categories. Being that I have degrees, I come to be good friends with the term: overqualified. I was even instructed to start leaving my degrees off ::) If you live here, you'd know how shitty it is...Outside of the strip, it's pretty fucked up.
It's been rough but I'm glad it's over.
Las Vegas sucks man move away.
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BTW for those that have ever questioned my desire to work,
I'll sum it up. Most of you know that Las Vegas has the highest unemployment rate in the country. (I believe it's still hovering around around 13%). We bottom out in many bad categories. Being that I have degrees, I come to be good friends with the term: overqualified. I was even instructed to start leaving my degrees off ::) If you live here, you'd know how shitty it is...Outside of the strip, it's pretty fucked up.
It's been rough but I'm glad it's over.
You mean, there are not unlimited supply of jobs where one could be a stripper, showgirl, pimp, casino worker...Damn, somebody should have told that Puerto Rican chick from Baltimore that got chopped up by her boyfriend up there...
But, always look for something better, never get complacent...
Use this experience to get that foot in the and look for something bigger, and bounce...
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The brother got a job. Totally cool. Nice work Wiggs.
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Are you saying that Wiggs got a role to play a manager of a cellphone store? And that after the Winter season is over, his gig is up?
*And that's classically trained Thespian, to you!
This post made me think of Robert Townsend in "Hollywood Shuffle"
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This post made me think of Robert Townsend in "Hollywood Shuffle"
Oh shit, I had to think!
Odd, I'm listening to Bloodstone's "I'm just doing my Job", and imagine Wiggs singing like the fat kid on "Recess"...
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Good for you Wiggsy! ;D
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LOL ;D
I've actually had a guy call in like that before ;)
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Congrats wiggs.
When you go in to negotiate salary, resist the urge to pull out a knife and say gimme all your money.
You may be an unclec tom, but its still hereditary.
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BTW for those that have ever questioned my desire to work,
I'll sum it up. Most of you know that Las Vegas has the highest unemployment rate in the country. (I believe it's still hovering around around 13%). We bottom out in many bad categories. Being that I have degrees, I come to be good friends with the term: overqualified. I was even instructed to start leaving my degrees off ::) If you live here, you'd know how shitty it is...Outside of the strip, it's pretty fucked up.
It's been rough but I'm glad it's over.
So it didn't bother you that there were millions of illegals in the state and you could get a job?
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LMAO...... ;D
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When are you going to get a job TA?
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lol!
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I'm usually not at a loss for words... ???
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So it didn't bother you that there were millions of illegals in the state and you could get a job?
Of course it bothers me. BTW in talking about Las Vegas being at the bottom of bad lists. We employ the largest amounts of illegals in the states. >:(
Even though I know I wasn't competing with a Mexican for my job it's still a crock of shite.
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Congrats wiggs.
When you go in to negotiate salary, resist the urge to pull out a knife and say gimme all your money.
You may be an unclec tom, but its still hereditary.
The white and Jew in me is keep the black man down.
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scary as fuck
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Hahahaaaa wtf? ;D
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The white and Jew in me is keep the black man down.
Wiggs if any of the brothers get on your case, give them the speech that cop did in "boyz in the hood".....you know the one..... ;D
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sometimes shit is so messed up you dont even know where to begin.
...this is one of those times
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Wiggs if any of the brothers get on your case, give them the speech that cop did in "boyz in the hood".....you know the one..... ;D
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bullshit.
that guy's way more ripped than wiggs.
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Good luck Mr. "Sales Manager"
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When are you going to get a job TA?
his mom and dad that he claims are dead are still alive and supporting him...
bench
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Bench, if this is true, TA is more fucked up in the than I even imagined. Him and his 50 gimmicks!
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bullshit.
that guy's way more ripped than wiggs.
bullshit.
Wiggs is ALL IN Fellas!!!