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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: maxkane69 on February 21, 2011, 01:46:32 PM
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Rory Leidelmeyer second at 1983 Nationals:he could not became a pro!
Branch warren second at 2009 Olympia:he almost became the best bodybuider in the planet!
DISCUSS!
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Nuff Said!! :(
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DISCUSS!
Nothing to discuss brother ,modern bodybuilding sucks.
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we've landed on the moon!!!!
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Completely different physiques - Branch Warren is a mass monster specializing in muscularity. Rory is more symmetrical.
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discuss what? we already know that...its sucks so get use to it :-\
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branch is ugly as sin but he is going to put evan's undefeated record to rest.
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Completely different physiques - Branch Warren is a mass monster specializing in muscularity. Rory is more symmetrical.
What's your point?
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Then everyone stop loading up ridiculous amounts of gear and get in shape.... shit need to listen to myself
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What's your point?
comparing someone like troy alves with him would be better since branch is going for the mass monster look. altough I understand the point of the thread.
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LOL!
Problably The Myth Oliva took a fraction of the gear of Big Dan Hill!
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LOL!
Problably The Myth Oliva took a fraction of the gear of Big Dan Hill!
It also reveals how BB is all about the illusion. Oliva weighs 35 pds less but LOOKS 30 pds heavier than hill. ;D
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Is that Big Dan Hill? He actually doesn't look half bad in that pose.
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LOL!
Problably The Myth Oliva took a fraction of the gear of Big Dan Hill!
Number one rule of posing, don't try the victory pose unless your name is Sergio or Lee Priest.
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Haha, the more I hear of this "big" Dan Hill fellow the more I just sit, shake my head and sigh. ::)
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What pose is Dan Hill attempting there? Looks like he is reaching up to heaven invoking the father of all schmoes Ben.
Word on the street is that Dan broke back a judge heart
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lol,,bodybuild IS all drugs ,,that what you dont get still! back then and now ,,it is ALLLL DRUGS,,THEN THEY DIDNT HAVE THE GH AND INSULINA COMBOS WE HAVE NOW,,thats why now 50lb heavier,,notice the word! heavier! not bigger HEAVIER,, with weight come size but its NOT PROPORTIONAL TO ANYTHING thats why most amtuer walking 250 offseason....so call 8% come on stage and look like a matchbox 200lb of mislabeled and confused bodypart because THEY HAD NO NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH ,,IT WAS ALL IN THE GUT,,THE BEST BODYBUILD IS THE ONE WITH NO GUT! ,,NO ONE HAS NO GUT NOW DAY AND THIS IS WHY THERE IS NO MORE BEST BODYBUILD,,IF NO GUT IS WANTED COMPETITION WEIGHT WILL BE 190-210LB FOR 5'10 FELLAS AND THIS IS NOT UP TO DAY WITH 2000 BODYBUILD WANTINGS
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It also reveals how BB is all about the illusion. Oliva weighs 35 pds less but LOOKS 30 pds heavier than hill. ;D
Im betting Oliva was alot stronger and looked more imposing and impressive in clothes than Hill too!
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Completely different physiques - Branch Warren is a mass monster specializing in muscularity. Rory is more symmetrical.
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I think Warren is a stocky looking dwarf. But, Rory's posing makes me uncomfortable, something's weird about him. Classic physique, but he rarely smiles, his choice of music doesn't seem to make sense. His posing didn't integrate with the music.
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I still think you guys are being a little too hard on Dan Hill. If he doesn't make significant progress by the time he's 30, I think you can start writing him off, but not yet [IMO].
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Im betting Oliva was alot stronger and looked more imposing and impressive in clothes than Hill too!
Ya` think?
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I think Warren is a stocky looking dwarf. But, Rory's posing makes me uncomfortable, something's weird about him. Classic physique, but he rarely smiles, his choice of music doesn't seem to make sense. His posing didn't integrate with the music.
You must be crazy to say that!
That was a great posing routine with an appropriate music, because Rory displayed his body like form of art!
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lol,,bodybuild IS all drugs ,,that what you dont get still! back then and now ,,it is ALLLL DRUGS,,THEN THEY DIDNT HAVE THE GH AND INSULINA COMBOS WE HAVE NOW,,thats why now 50lb heavier,,notice the word! heavier! not bigger HEAVIER,, with weight come size but its NOT PROPORTIONAL TO ANYTHING thats why most amtuer walking 250 offseason....so call 8% come on stage and look like a matchbox 200lb of mislabeled and confused bodypart because THEY HAD NO NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH ,,IT WAS ALL IN THE GUT,,THE BEST BODYBUILD IS THE ONE WITH NO GUT! ,,NO ONE HAS NO GUT NOW DAY AND THIS IS WHY THERE IS NO MORE BEST BODYBUILD,,IF NO GUT IS WANTED COMPETITION WEIGHT WILL BE 190-210LB FOR 5'10 FELLAS AND THIS IS NOT UP TO DAY WITH 2000 BODYBUILD WANTINGS
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I wish you would shut the fuck up for once.
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Completely different physiques - Branch Warren is a mass monster specializing in muscularity. Rory is more symmetrical.
I'll be looking forward to your 'expert' commentaries on bodybuilding comeptitions coming up ::)
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DISCUSS!
The difference is: in the rory video you can hear women in the audience...
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still the best in my opinion...
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nah, your dumb as shit, you want to look at dudes like rory then go check out muscle & fitness magazine. theres millions of guys across the planet who look like him.
next to branch he would look like a swimmer. and of course: more sexy. but only if you are a woman or a twink. bodybuilding isnt about whats the most sexy to women and twinks, bodybuilding is about whats sexy to hyper msculine beefy studs. and thats as much muscle and conditioning as possible. albeit, aesthetics matter. but size always triumphs aesthetics assuming conditioning is equal. deal with it
(would i like to see more flex wheelers, kevin levrones, phil heaths, [mass monsters with aesthetics}??.. hell yea!)
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I wish you would shut the fuck up for once.
Why?
He's right. Don't you have any Pro BB friends, or even "wannabe" Pro BB friends? They do exactly what he is saying. I've seen it a million times. It's actually kind of sad. They get bigger and then they have less friends, less family, less lives.
Everything revolves around their next shot. The side effects that you see (and hear) are annoying, yet they are cool to look at because of their size, just not cool enough for you to want to go through what they are going through.
Big freakey BB's are annoying as fuck to hang out with. They've always got something narcissistic on their minds. They can't chill over ANYTHING.
I could name names and show pictures just to prove Gh15 is right, but I wouldn't do that. These guys work out at my gym and let me tell you, they have LOTS of problems. Relationships, everything. Twinks are always coming up to them for advice. Unless they are going to talk about the things Gh15 is talking about, they may as well not talk at all.
I think the people that discredit Gh15 just haven't seen it first hand and they don't want to believe "it" is correct. I'm telling you, Gh15 is not even telling you everything...
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nah, your dumb as shit, you want to look at dudes like rory then go check out muscle & fitness magazine. theres millions of guys across the planet who look like him.
next to branch he would look like a swimmer. and of course: more sexy. but only if you are a woman or a twink. bodybuilding isnt about whats the most sexy to women and twinks, bodybuilding is about whats sexy to hyper msculine beefy studs. and thats as much muscle and conditioning as possible. albeit, aesthetics matter. but size always triumphs aesthetics assuming conditioning is equal. deal with it
(would i like to see more flex wheelers, kevin levrones, phil heaths, [mass monsters with aesthetics}??.. hell yea!)
or the guy who would murder rape them all!!!
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Why?
He's right. Don't you have any Pro BB friends, or even "wannabe" Pro BB friends? They do exactly what he is saying. I've seen it a million times. It's actually kind of sad. They get bigger and then they have less friends, less family, less lives.
Everything revolves around their next shot. The side effects that you see (and hear) are annoying, yet they are cool to look at because of their size, just not cool enough for you to want to go through what they are going through.
Big freakey BB's are annoying as fuck to hang out with. They've always got something narcissistic on their minds. They can't chill over ANYTHING.
I could name names and show pictures just to prove Gh15 is right, but I wouldn't do that. These guys work out at my gym and let me tell you, they have LOTS of problems. Relationships, everything. Twinks are always coming up to them for advice. Unless they are going to talk about the things Gh15 is talking about, they may as well not talk at all.
I think the people that discredit Gh15 just haven't seen it first hand and they don't want to believe "it" is correct. I'm telling you, Gh15 is not even telling you everything...
you talking about the pot head pro i think your talking about??
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Im betting Oliva was alot stronger and looked more imposing and impressive in clothes than Hill too!
This picture is a work of art..every bb should strive for this!!!
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you talking about the pot head pro i think your talking about??
every current pro bodybuilder is a pot head, or loaded on other painkillers, or other drugs that arent muscle related..
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every current pro bodybuilder is a pot head, or loaded on other painkillers, or other drugs that arent muscle related..
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mark dugdale??
lol i know they are, but me and dyslexic live very close to one another and i know what city he trains in and theres only one pro there
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mark dugdale??
lol i know they are, but me and dyslexic live very close to one another and i know what city he trains in and theres only one pro there
there is a top NPC guy who trains at my gym, and about a week ago he had the nerve to ask me about nubain....total douchbag the guy is..
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still the best in my opinion...
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Slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile system
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lol,,bodybuild IS all drugs ,,that what you dont get still! back then and now ,,it is ALLLL DRUGS,,THEN THEY DIDNT HAVE THE GH AND INSULINA COMBOS WE HAVE NOW,,thats why now 50lb heavier,,notice the word! heavier! not bigger HEAVIER,, with weight come size but its NOT PROPORTIONAL TO ANYTHING thats why most amtuer walking 250 offseason....so call 8% come on stage and look like a matchbox 200lb of mislabeled and confused bodypart because THEY HAD NO NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH ,,IT WAS ALL IN THE GUT,,THE BEST BODYBUILD IS THE ONE WITH NO GUT! ,,NO ONE HAS NO GUT NOW DAY AND THIS IS WHY THERE IS NO MORE BEST BODYBUILD,,IF NO GUT IS WANTED COMPETITION WEIGHT WILL BE 190-210LB FOR 5'10 FELLAS AND THIS IS NOT UP TO DAY WITH 2000 BODYBUILD WANTINGS
gh15 approved
gh,
good post bro...agree with everything....at least you tell it how it is...gh, ignore all the retards here who know nothing about the drug culture in this drug crazed circus known as Pro BB,
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This picture is a work of art..every bb should strive for this!!!
every schmoes 'wet dream'....NOT good promotional material if the desire is to attract a mainstream audience.
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every schmoes 'wet dream'....NOT good promotional material if the desire is to attract a mainstream audience.
::)if the mainstream doesnt like that they can fuck off...
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we've landed on the moon!!!!
Yep. That's what the TV told us.
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lol,,bodybuild IS all drugs ,,that what you dont get still! back then and now ,,it is ALLLL DRUGS,,THEN THEY DIDNT HAVE THE GH AND INSULINA COMBOS WE HAVE NOW,,thats why now 50lb heavier,,notice the word! heavier! not bigger HEAVIER,, with weight come size but its NOT PROPORTIONAL TO ANYTHING thats why most amtuer walking 250 offseason....so call 8% come on stage and look like a matchbox 200lb of mislabeled and confused bodypart because THEY HAD NO NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH ,,IT WAS ALL IN THE GUT,,THE BEST BODYBUILD IS THE ONE WITH NO GUT! ,,NO ONE HAS NO GUT NOW DAY AND THIS IS WHY THERE IS NO MORE BEST BODYBUILD,,IF NO GUT IS WANTED COMPETITION WEIGHT WILL BE 190-210LB FOR 5'10 FELLAS AND THIS IS NOT UP TO DAY WITH 2000 BODYBUILD WANTINGS
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If you know how bad this looks why did YOU choose to look like this?
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or the guy who would murder rape them all!!!
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Literally!
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NO ONE HAS NO GUT NOW DAY
Flex, Chris, Phil and even Jay who use GH and Slin have no gut ......
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Whats so cool about Oliva ?
His bones too thick. Look at that proportions... arms almost like legs, and they are blocky - no peak.
he had genetics for lifting, not for bb. Look at his conditioning: 100% offseason. thick skin.
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that's effectively the perfection. 8)
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Bertil Fox had very respectable calves in this picture, especially for a black man. Funny how most pros today lack decent calves.
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Rory Leidelmeyer second at 1983 Nationals:he could not became a pro!
Branch warren second at 2009 Olympia:he almost became the best bodybuider in the planet!
DISCUSS!
What can I say? The BB world has changed. People who approve of the change(s) are still with the sport; those who disapprove have long since left it behind. If you disapprove of the way the sport is headed why do you still follow it? Vote with your feet/eyes and direct your attention elsewhere. As long as people patronize modern BB by buying magazines, videos, going to expos, etc it will continue on its present course. The reality is people want to see physical freaks. Do not forget: back in the day Leidelmeyer and his peers were considered freaks. People wanted to see that then and they want to see it now. So, maybe the BB world has not changed so much after all. ::)
There are natural BB shows out there. When is the last time you attended one? Are there natural BB magazines? Do you buy them? 'nuff said.
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83-01 ;D
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Completely different physiques - Branch Warren is a mass monster specializing in muscularity. Rory is more symmetrical.
let's just disspell some myths
1. under 5'10 = no mass monster. never will be big enough
2. unaesthetic does not = mass monster. just ugly monster
3. BB's from before 1995 are not necesarrily good just because they're smaller.
D. wanna fight?
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This picture is a work of art..every bb should strive for this!!!
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:)
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The IFBB missed their opportunity to include classic bodybuilding and went with men's figure instead. I think classic bodybuilding would have brought competitors out of the woodwork the way the 202 lb division has.
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LOL
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367291.0;attach=403317;image)
ummm what's Uncle Joe looking at? :-X :-X :-X :-X
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367291.0;attach=403317;image)
ummm what's Uncle Joe looking at? :-X :-X :-X :-X
1 hour later Joe makes Sergio a proposition, Joe walks away with a black eye and Sergio never won another Olympia after that. :)
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1 hour later Joe makes Sergio a proposition, Joe walks away with a black eye and Sergio never won another Olympia after that. :)
That would explain everything
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Its pics like those that make you want to lift. BTW, my uncle used to wear caps like that along with the glasses...
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What can I say? The BB world has changed. People who approve of the change(s) are still with the sport; those who disapprove have long since left it behind. If you disapprove of the way the sport is headed why do you still follow it? Vote with your feet/eyes and direct your attention elsewhere. As long as people patronize modern BB by buying magazines, videos, going to expos, etc it will continue on its present course. The reality is people want to see physical freaks. Do not forget: back in the day Leidelmeyer and his peers were considered freaks. People wanted to see that then and they want to see it now. So, maybe the BB world has not changed so much after all. ::)
There are natural BB shows out there. When is the last time you attended one? Are there natural BB magazines? Do you buy them? 'nuff said.
Because I love bodybuilding and once you are a bodybuilder you always are.I just do not like the direction has gone bodybuilding in the last decades.
I blame the judges who allowed this to happen!
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Because I love bodybuilding and once you are a bodybuilder you always are.I just do not like the direction has gone bodybuilding in the last decades.
I blame the judges who allowed this to happen!
It's not the judges , they just judge what shows up on stage , it's the drugs the combos , the cocktails , the experiments , it allows guys to get much heavier albeit not better , if Rory was born in 1985 he'd probably fall into the trap of being bigger too
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It's not the judges , they just judge what shows up on stage , it's the drugs the combos , the cocktails , the experiments , it allows guys to get much heavier albeit not better , if Rory was born in 1985 he'd probably fall into the trap of being bigger too
In one way you are right but if the judges penalize them with bad score the competitor will reevaluate their drug regime and will be forced to prioritaze line,separation, shape and simmetry over pure mass without the charateristic I just mentioned.And no way sameone like Rory would allowed himself to became an a shapeless, deformed, misshapen creature like the bodybuilder of today.Same for Zane and other great bodybuilder of the past who envision their body as form of art not to be corrupted to please a judge and win a plastic trophy.
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In one way you are right but if the judges penalize them with bad score the competitor will reevaluate their drug regime and will be forced to prioritaze line,separation, shape and simmetry over pure mass without the charateristic I just mentioned.And no way sameone like Rory would allowed himself to became an a shapeless, deformed, misshapen creature like the bodybuilder of today.Same for Zane and other great bodybuilder of the past who envision their body as form of art not to be corrupted to please a judge and win a plastic trophy.
That's what everyone thought was going to happen when Dexter won , set the trend and it hasn't changed :-\ I guess that's why people create these threads to remember a time when the physiques higher quality the irony is Rory couldn't even get his pro card speaks volumes quality competition back then
I use to watch the Nationals and the USA ( yes on TV on ESPN lol ) and the quality of competitors back then was insane , it's rare the winner in this day and age looks like he's ready to compete on the pro stage but this is the sport as of today
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That's what everyone thought was going to happen when Dexter won , set the trend and it hasn't changed :-\ I guess that's why people create these threads to remember a time when the physiques higher quality the irony is Rory couldn't even get his pro card speaks volumes quality competition back then
I use to watch the Nationals and the USA ( yes on TV on ESPN lol ) and the quality of competitors back then was insane , it's rare the winner in this day and age looks like he's ready to compete on the pro stage but this is the sport as of today
I do not think that the judges tried to change the trend when Dexter won but they only did not wanted to reward a Cutler out of shape for the second year in a row especially after everybody was questioning them regarding how Martinez was robbed a year before!
And you are right the quality of the competitor was insane at the time.Just look at the line up of 83 National:
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That's what everyone thought was going to happen when Dexter won , set the trend and it hasn't changed :-\ I guess that's why people create these threads to remember a time when the physiques higher quality the irony is Rory couldn't even get his pro card speaks volumes quality competition back then
I use to watch the Nationals and the USA ( yes on TV on ESPN lol ) and the quality of competitors back then was insane , it's rare the winner in this day and age looks like he's ready to compete on the pro stage but this is the sport as of today
If you want to reminisce about the good old days and complain about (too much) steroid use in modern BB there's a board for that: http://iron-age-forum.com/
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nah, your dumb as shit, you want to look at dudes like rory then go check out muscle & fitness magazine. theres millions of guys across the planet who look like him.
(would i like to see more flex wheelers, kevin levrones, phil heaths, [mass monsters with aesthetics}??.. hell yea!)
One of the most idiotic, mindless remarks ever posted on this board. Millions of guys are on the planet that lool like Rory ? Are you smoking crack again? There's very few people who carry his combination of mass, proportions with a small tapered waist. You are totally ignorant when it comes to what makes a great physique. News flash..you will never, ever come even remotely close to being as big, cut proportioned as Rory..Keep on worshipping pregnant gutted, synthol laden abominations. Why don't you go make some more inane videos sitting in crappy cars flashing psychotic facial expressions. You're much better at that than bodybuilding.
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nah, your dumb as shit, you want to look at dudes like rory then go check out muscle & fitness magazine. theres millions of guys across the planet who look like him.
next to branch he would look like a swimmer. and of course: more sexy. but only if you are a woman or a twink. bodybuilding isnt about whats the most sexy to women and twinks, bodybuilding is about whats sexy to hyper msculine beefy studs. and thats as much muscle and conditioning as possible. albeit, aesthetics matter. but size always triumphs aesthetics assuming conditioning is equal. deal with it
(would i like to see more flex wheelers, kevin levrones, phil heaths, [mass monsters with aesthetics}??.. hell yea!)
That has to be one of the dumbest statements you've ever made on here.....and you have made plenty.
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Great pics.
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t bombs is right, theres plenty male fitness models that look great, and make alot of money out of that look, i think what everyone wants to see is mass with class, along the lines of levrone etc
as somone who actually goes to shows from time to time, u want the guys on stage to at least look bigger than the majority of the audience, i wouldnt pay money to watch a bunch of 220lbs works of art im afraid....
you want to be totally blown away with size and shape
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branch is a disgusting pig
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If you want to reminisce about the good old days and complain about (too much) steroid use in modern BB there's a board for that: http://iron-age-forum.com/
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If you wanna talk about which professional bodybuilder hustles on the side and how much he's worth there is a board for that yet it doesn't stop you from posting it here , if you wanna ponder the question ' would you date someone with a poor credit score ' I'm sure there is a board for it yet it doesn't stop you from posting on here and I don't have a problem with it but please don't be a hypocrite
And the best part is I never bitched about there ever being to much steroids in bodybuilding , it's not the steroids that's ruining the quality of physiques and a lot of people look back not only to the Ironage of the sport to even the 90s and earl 00s as the best athletes have looked , and how the sport literally is getting worse not better
And the the funny part is you singled me out and didn't even bother to chastise the original poster or anyone else who agreed with him and the best part is I wasn't even complaining about steroid use so you couldn't even get that right.
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t bombs is right, theres plenty male fitness models that look great, and make alot of money out of that look, i think what everyone wants to see is mass with class, along the lines of levrone etc
as somone who actually goes to shows from time to time, u want the guys on stage to at least look bigger than the majority of the audience, i wouldnt pay money to watch a bunch of 220lbs works of art im afraid....
you want to be totally blown away with size and shape
188lbs and yet no one ever looked like this again , it's not about the size it's about the quality
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branch is a disgusting pig
Ive heard he shoots animals for a hobby.
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This picture is a work of art..every bb should strive for this!!!
One of the best BB pics ever.
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188lbs and yet no one ever looked like this again , it's not about the size it's about the quality
twink status around here.
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branch is a disgusting pig
Ironically, like the animals he hunts, lol...
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Tbomz making himself look like a fucking idiot as per normal.
Millions of people look like Rory?......
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Slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile penal system
Fixed.
Um, on second thought, you were correct... ;D
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Fixed.
Um, on second thought, you were correct... ;D
That was actually a quote from a funny gimmick called Rehtaf Ruo who used to post that over and over a few years ago, lol.
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t bombs is right, theres plenty male fitness models that look great, and make alot of money out of that look, i think what everyone wants to see is mass with class, along the lines of levrone etc
as somone who actually goes to shows from time to time, u want the guys on stage to at least look bigger than the majority of the audience, i wouldnt pay money to watch a bunch of 220lbs works of art im afraid....
you want to be totally blown away with size and shape
You think Rory looks like a fitness model ? the fuck ? ???
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Tbomz making himself look like a fucking idiot as per normal.
Millions of people look like Rory?......
millions wasnt right.
but thousands is.
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You think Rory looks like a fitness model ? the fuck ? ???
Excuse Tbombz, he's kinda new to this bodybuilding thing. Doesn't quite get it yet.
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Man look at that top 5 in 83...You have to admit, it's strange how back in the day, top 5 at the Nationals were already big names and would go on to become bigger names. In the last decade, how many have gotten pro cards at the nationals and done diddley squat since? Maybe a few become top competitors. Back then not just the winners but the fucking entire top 5 went on to become superstars. It's crazy.
Also the judges do and don't reward certain physiques. I mean it's not like someone dictates to them "either weigh x amount or you're getting dead last kid!" Each bodybuilder has his own set of genetic material to work with. It just so happens that a lot of genetically gifted bigger guys have taken center stage and a lot of genetic also rans have tried to keep up but that is beyond the scope of what they are capable of. So, since they LOVE bodybuilding and can't see themselves doing ANYTHING else, they pump up more drugs and just keep chasing the dream that will never ever happen. It just so happens that MOST of todays competitors suck, genetically speaking, so what we see seems to be the same story over and over again and we wish for the good ol days when so and so competed but let's face it the superstars just aren't there right now. It might happen again, I mean you have Cedric you have Heath you have Martinez but that's about it. The rest of the pack pretty much suck. I don't see much in the way of the future. Not terribly impressed with Centopani, though I concede he might win the Olympia but his structure just isn't that pleasing. This Faod guy (I hope I am spelling his name right) certainly kicks ass and I am surpised no one has been talking about him. He looked fantastic.
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bloated like a swollen cock
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millions wasnt right.
but thousands is.
Thousands might be sitting at the same muscular bodyweight as him. But in no way would they match his structure, shape and overall look.
He was someone with very good genetics who was on cycle for a long time, not your average gymrat response to training and gear.