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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: blacken700 on February 25, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
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I suspect you're swimming against the current here...
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No, just the average taxpayer sick of paying outrageous taxes and being viewed as a pinata by greedy pigs in public unions whose sole purpose is to extort endless benes and resources from already tapped out suckers who mostly make less than these mini-maddoffs.
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Can you explain why govt workers should even be allowed to unionize in the first place?
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No, just the average taxpayer sick of paying outrageous taxes and being viewed as a pinata by greedy pigs in public unions whose sole purpose is to extort endless benes and resources from already tapped out suckers who mostly make less than these mini-maddoffs.
Methinks that if it's taxes that you're concerned about then unions and union member, who are also taxpayers, and pay more in taxes since they make more money, should not be at the top of the list.
I'd like to see similar rethoric on your part when talking about municipal perks to Big Business, et cetera.
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It's pretty amazing that these repube scumbags can get away with blaming math teachers earning $40k a year and probably driving a eight year old used car, or a firefighter making $55K and putting his life on the line every day, as an example of the the people who are "bankrupting" our state governments. These dirt bags are truly galling.
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It's pretty amazing that these repube scumbags can get away with blaming math teachers earning $40k a year and probably driving a eight year old used car, or a firefighter making $55K and putting his life on the line every day, as an example of the the people who are "bankrupting" our state governments. These dirt bags are truly galling.
And it's vicious too.
They have no sense of shame.
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And it's vicious too.
They have no sense of shame.
LOL says the idiot who wants a percentage of the profit from his company when he assumes NONE of the risk ::) ::) ::)
talk about having no shame :o
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It's pretty amazing that these repube scumbags can get away with blaming math teachers earning $40k a year and probably driving a eight year old used car, or a firefighter making $55K and putting his life on the line every day, as an example of the the people who are "bankrupting" our state governments. These dirt bags are truly galling.
sorry hoss but when the private sector is hurting, what makes you think the public sector shouldnt hurt either?
at a time when unemployment is rampant and b/c of that the money that is used to pay their salaries is lower, what makes you think that they shouldnt have to cut costs too?
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Methinks that if it's taxes that you're concerned about then unions and union member, who are also taxpayers, and pay more in taxes since they make more money, should not be at the top of the list.
I'd like to see similar rethoric on your part when talking about municipal perks to Big Business, et cetera.
Really, where does their paycheck come from in the first place? I'll give you a hint, taxes. So they take tax money from the private sector to pay the salary of a teacher ..... then collect taxes from that, its a zero net gain because nothing is produced.
Yeah the evil big business who employ people and pay taxes those evil bastards
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Liberals just can't except the fact that most Americans are Conservatives and that most Conservatives are not rich.
Liberals also can't comprehend that Conservatives would rather work hard and pay their own way then be dependent on the crack cocaine of government handouts, undeserved benefits/ entitlements and the "blame" reflex to explain all of the problems in the world.
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Liberals just can't except the fact that most Americans are Conservatives and that most Conservatives are not rich.
Liberals also can't comprehend that Conservatives would rather work hard and pay their own way then be dependent on the crack cocaine of government handouts, undeserved benefits/ entitlements and the "blame" reflex to explain all of the problems in the world.
QFT - I am the farthest thing from a fat cat, but i'll be damned if I ever look to someone else to pay my freight.
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LOL says the idiot who wants a percentage of the profit from his company when he assumes NONE of the risk ::) ::) ::)
talk about having no shame :o
Wurd.
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It's pretty amazing that these repube scumbags can get away with blaming math teachers earning $40k a year and probably driving a eight year old used car, or a firefighter making $55K and putting his life on the line every day, as an example of the the people who are "bankrupting" our state governments. These dirt bags are truly galling.
What's amazing is your utter cluelessness regarding this issue. This is about the unions, bleeding the taxpayers dry and often forcing these members to funnel their money to Democrat candidates, whether they want to do so or not.
And, when public sector workers get paid twice as much and are virtually impossible to fire (no matter how badly they suck), it angers people even more.
As usual, all that "shared sacrifice/pay your fair share" stuff goes out the door, when it comes to Democrats coughing up the cash.
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Can you explain why govt workers should even be allowed to unionize in the first place?
Not really can you?
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Not really can you?
No, because they should not. Do you even know how govt workers came to be able to unionize in th first place? I do, but want to see if you do.
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No, because they should not. Do you even know how govt workers came to be able to unionize in th first place? I do, but want to see if you do.
A number of states don't allow their public-sector workers to unionize. Suffice it to say, they don't have the problems that their counterparts do.
Let's see how long these Dems in Wisconsin tuck tail and run, when the bodies start hitting the floor, and those workers get laid off, left and right.
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Can you explain why govt workers should even be allowed to unionize in the first place?
Because collective bargaining is a freedom that should be available to all Americans.
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Where is the taxpayer at the table.
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Because collective bargaining is a freedom that should be available to all Americans.
Why?
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Why?
Why shouldn't it be? There are many reasons but the big one to me is the ability to bargain as a group allowing for greater leverage where without it you have none.
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It's pretty amazing that these repube scumbags can get away with blaming math teachers earning $40k a year and probably driving a eight year old used car, or a firefighter making $55K and putting his life on the line every day, as an example of the the people who are "bankrupting" our state governments. These dirt bags are truly galling.
Fucking hilarious.. its fucking insane.. i cant believe how people get behind total shit like this..
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Why shouldn't it be? There are many reasons but the big one to me is the ability to bargain as a group allowing for greater leverage where without it you have none.
Only about 10% of the private sector is unionized. When I was going to college I worked in a union shop about 30 hrs a week. I had to pay union due's out of my pay check but got zero union representation or perks. But because I worked there I had to pay dues. I will never work for a union again. The union leadership are a bunch of greedy bloodsuckers.
Maybe the public sector unions in WI should be asking why the union leader is making 480K/yr. Public sector unions are a scheme to funnel money back into the democrat party, no being partisan simply stating fact, check union contributions for yourself. There is no reason for public sector unions, they exists on tax payer money, no wealth is created.
But you want to talk about freedom, there is no freedom on choice of joining a union, when working at a union shop.
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Some of us are sober and sane unlike deluded leftists like yourself.
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In some way, I agree with all of you.
I do think that government unions shouldn't exist... You're a public servant, why do you get to lobby for wage increases and the like when private people often do not.
I do not think that teachers making 40-55k are the issues here... however, you shouldn't get a guaranteed raise in a time of economic crisis... I had to go without one a couple of years back... you can too. I also don't think Military personnel should have guaranteed raises either for that matter.
That said, there are plenty of "conservatives" who live off of medicare or medicaid or what have you... They like their entitlements too.
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The problem with these teacher's unions is that their salaries and benefits rise regardless of the job they do. Our public education system is a joke in a lot of states right now. 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th graders are not proficient in reading despite Wisc spending more money per student than any state in the Mid West. In the private sector those results would result in you getting canned but in the public sector its ground for a wage increase. ::)
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The problem with these teacher's unions is that their salaries and benefits rise regardless of the job they do. Our public education system is a joke in a lot of states right now. 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th graders are not proficient in reading despite Wisc spending more money per student than any state in the Mid West. In the private sector those results would result in you getting canned but in the public sector its ground for a wage increase. ::)
Last time I checked, they spend nearly $11,000 per student. If you spend that much money and only a third of your 8th graders can read proficiently, you need to get FIRED with the quickness.
That's the problem. If these teachers' unions performed like that in the public sector, they'd be out of business within a matter of months.
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their higher than the national average. but the national average is nothing to brag about
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their higher than the national average. but the national average is nothing to brag about
A perfect example of why their salaries and benefits shouldn't increase. This moron clearly has the reading comprehension skills of a third grader yet he somehow managed to worm his way through middle school. Talk about a travesty.
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what are you talking about ed
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Case in point. The education system has completely failed Blacken. And to top it off he now he sits there on welfare sucking money out of the rest of us while logging 18 hours a day on Getbig with his dozen gimmicks. :-\
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just curious, do you live at home with your mommy
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Someone get this benefit leech a GED and a job. :D :D :D :D
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Case in point. The education system has completely failed Blacken. And to top it off he now he sits there on welfare sucking money out of the rest of us while logging 18 hours a day on Getbig with his dozen gimmicks. :-\
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i'll take that as yes, when you go out on your own let me know
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oh and it's still higher than the national average ;D
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just curious, do you live at home with your mommy
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And he's bitter, bigoted, and butthurt over his failures and how disappointing he's become to mom and dad. :D
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And he's bitter, bigoted, and butthurt over his failures and how disappointing he's become to mom and dad. :D
Hey Step n Fetch It - why dont you go respond to the many beatings I have given you yet never responded to?
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Hey Step n Fetch It - why dont you go respond to the many beatings I have given you yet never responded to?
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You really need to give up the "Step N Fetchit" line, PEA BRAIN. You are not Black, and lack the historical knowledge, nuance, and cultural context of said individual. Therefore, quite frankly your perceived "insult" makes zero sense. ::)
If its a "beating" your giving in your tiny little mind, I guess that makes it so! ::)
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Hahaha, a benny/blacken tag team. Talk about hitting rock bottom.
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You really need to give up the "Step N Fetchit" line, PEA BRAIN. You are not Black, and lack the historical knowledge, nuance, and cultural context of said individual. Therefore, quite frankly your perceived "insult" makes zero sense. ::)
If its a "beating" your giving in your tiny little mind, I guess that makes it so! ::)
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You really need to give up the "Step N Fetchit" line, PEA BRAIN. You are not Black, and lack the historical knowledge, nuance, and cultural context of said individual. Therefore, quite frankly your perceived "insult" makes zero sense. ::)
If its a "beating" your giving in your tiny little mind, I guess that makes it so! ::)
Fine - i'll put you where you belong - a yapping little turd.
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Blacken & Benny
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Fine - i'll put you where you belong - a yapping little turd.
Nice try, but I've seen your picture. ;D
You have no life. You are sad, short, fat little masturbating turd who spends all of his time posting on getbig and jerking off to internet porn. Pathetic. :D :D
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Blacken & Benny
oh we want to go this route ;D
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Blacken & Benny
Easy there, PEA BRAIN. We know you are a ignorant racist New York wop having a meltdown because I don't pay enough attention to you, but there is no need to make it so blatantly obvious. ;D
(http://nj-guido.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/guidos-look-like-women.jpg)
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Sorry- i'm not a guido with the Jersey Shore look.
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Sorry- i'm not a guido with the Jersey Shore look.
Stereotypically racist wop[your term, not mine] nonetheless.
And you don't deny the rest of my statement describing you and your PATHETIC lifestyle, because you and I know it is FACT. ;D
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Stereotypically racist wop[your term, not mine] nonetheless.
And you don't deny the rest of my statement describing you and your PATHETIC lifestyle, because you and I know it is FACT. ;D
Come to think of it - I think it was wrong of me to insult step in fetch it and buckwheat by comaring them to you. You are more like beetlejuice or rereun if anything.