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branch wins?
WTF
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branch should have been no higher than 6th.
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branch wins?
WTF
Go show em what bodybuilding is all about tbombz!
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Go show em what bodybuilding is all about tbombz!
ill need a life size flex wheeler poster 8)
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ill need a life size flex wheeler poster 8)
yes, but bodybuilding has a little to do with training....Flex was lazy.
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yes, but bodybuilding has a little to do with training....Flex was lazy.
Flex was lazy because he was gifted ,this happens in all sports ,you should know this Coach
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yes, but bodybuilding has a little to do with training....Flex was lazy.
were talking about bodybuilding judging aka who has the best physique.... who should have won the arnold classic. when you step on stage it doesnt matter who was lazy, who is strong, who trained hard, who is all drugs, all that matters is what you look like. was flex lazy? i guess so, thats what everybody says. doesnt matter. dude had the best physique of all time.
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branch wins?
WTF
dude, seriously. the most muscle and hardest condition are the primary criteria. branch fits the bill, he won fare and square. get over it.
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Flex was lazy because he was gifted ,this happens in all sports ,you should know this Coach
1. Bodybuilding isn't a sport and bodybuilders are not athletes.
2. If someone slacks or is deemed "lazy" in a real sport, they either get cut or send sent down to the minors.
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were talking about bodybuilding judging aka who has the best physique.... who should have won the arnold classic. when you step on stage it doesnt matter who was lazy, who is strong, who trained hard, who is all drugs, all that matters is what you look like. was flex lazy? i guess so, thats what everybody says. doesnt matter. dude had the best physique of all time.
Thanks, how many shows have you been to and how much have you competed?
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dude, seriously. the most muscle and hardest condition are the primary criteria. branch fits the bill, he won fare and square. get over it.
nah bodybuilding is about who looks the best, size and conditioning play a huge part, but they arent the only criteria. if it were then branch would never win because the dude is small: 5 foot 4 inches. but yet hes big isnt he? why? because proportions matter. and so does shape and symetry. aesthetics is king, branch has none (well his side tricep and ab/thigh are both pretty good, but otherwise hes crap).
1. Bodybuilding isn't a sport and bodybuilders are not athletes.
2. If someone slacks or is deemed "lazy" in a real sport, they either get cut or send sent down to the minors.
o RLY?? do i need to start naming lazy pro athletes or will you just admit your wrong?
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2. If someone slacks or is deemed "lazy" in a real sport, they either get cut or send sent down to the minors.
Are soccer ,boxing ,MMA real sports.
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I never give a care about the placings anymore. The judging is so rigged that no one can make sense of it.
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nah bodybuilding is about who looks the best, size and conditioning play a huge part, but they arent the only criteria. if it were then branch would never win because the dude is small: 5 foot 4 inches. but yet hes big isnt he? why? because proportions matter. and so does shape and symetry. aesthetics is king, branch has none (well his side tricep and ab/thigh are both pretty good, but otherwise hes crap).
Correct, those are the only two poses in which he looks good.
o RLY?? do i need to start naming lazy pro athletes or will you just admit your wrong?
Exactly. For example, there are plenty of lazy guys in soccer, but they get away with it because they're technically and tactically gifted so they don't need to do as much as the average player. This is pretty common in team sports.
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Who should be 1st though in that line up? They all sucked and/or were off.
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i keep telling you again and again and again ,,this are all liars ,,you have here coach that to get in shape take trenolona and lie to you about it,,now you take the coach which is the lowest amatur level then take a professional,,,we do that and 100 times more,,
when i say we use trenbolona i mean we USE TRENBOLONA
300-400 mg a day trenbolona ace,,nto 70mg every 3 days,,you dont seem to get it ,,we USE HIGHER DOSES OF THE DRUGS WHO BUILD MUSCLE,,TRENBOLNA EQUIPONA MASTERONA GH INSULIN
gh15 approved
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Exactly. For example, there are plenty of lazy guys in soccer for example, but they get away with it because they're technically and tactically gifted so they don't need to do as much as the average player. This is pretty common in team sports.
Exactly .
S&C Coach ,oh brother ::).
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branch should have been no higher than 6th.
Branch should add 30 - 40 lbs on his barbell/dumbell curls, 200 lb to his close grip bench press and 60 lb to his reverse curls. Then he'll get arms like Ronnie.
Dennis Wolf should add 200 lb to his deadlifts and 150 lb for his calf raises, so he gets a lower back and calves like Dorian Yates.
Because stronger muscles = BIGGER muscles ;)
Dexter can stop doing pre contest dieting and cardio, since he's the most aesthetic and can just walk in and win the title.
Did I get that right ???
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Branch should add 30 - 40 lbs on his barbell/dumbell curls, 200 lb to his close grip bench press and 60 lb to his reverse curls. Then he'll get arms like Ronnie.
Dennis Wolf should add 200 lb to his deadlifts and 150 lb for his calf raises, so he gets a lower back and calves like Dorian Yates.
Because stronger muscles = BIGGER muscles ;)
Dexter can stop doing pre contest dieting and cardio, since he's the most aesthetic and can just walk in and win the title.
Did I get that right ???
your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
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nah bodybuilding is about who looks the best, size and conditioning play a huge part, but they arent the only criteria. if it were then branch would never win because the dude is small: 5 foot 4 inches. but yet hes big isnt he? why? because proportions matter. and so does shape and symetry. aesthetics is king, branch has none (well his side tricep and ab/thigh are both pretty good, but otherwise hes crap).
o RLY?? do i need to start naming lazy pro athletes or will you just admit your wrong?
Yeah, go head on!
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Yeah, go head on!
Ronaldinho
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i keep telling you again and again and again ,,this are all liars ,,you have here coach that to get in shape take trenolona and lie to you about it,,now you take the coach which is the lowest amatur level then take a professional,,,we do that and 100 times more,,
when i say we use trenbolona i mean we USE TRENBOLONA
300-400 mg a day trenbolona ace,,nto 70mg every 3 days,,you dont seem to get it ,,we USE HIGHER DOSES OF THE DRUGS WHO BUILD MUSCLE,,TRENBOLNA EQUIPONA MASTERONA GH INSULIN
gh15 approved
Sssshhhh, you're speaking again. Not a good trait for you!
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Ronaldinho
Don't know the cat.
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your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
You should seriously consider taking the entire IFBB pro division under your wing and training them with your knowledge and experience, bro. I bet the line up will be better than the 90s in under a couple of years.
Maybe you can also teach the judges on how to properly assess competitions while you're at it.
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branch should have been no higher than 6th.
Not only did Branch win, but it wasn't even close. If you watched the judging, Branch was allowed to return back in line after only one comparison at the night show. I'm pretty sure this was a straight first victory.
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Don't know the cat.
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You should seriously consider taking the entire IFBB pro division under your wing and training them with your knowledge and experience, bro. I bet the line up will be better than the 90s in under a couple of years.
Maybe you can also teach the judges on how to properly assess competitions while you're at it.
your extremely arrogant and you woudl do well to listen to people who know more than you..
still waiting for your idea on the best type of economy. :D :-\ ;D dont bother, cuz i kno you dont have anything worth listening to
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your extremely arrogant and you woudl do well to listen to people who know more than you..
still waiting for your idea on the best type of economy. :D :-\ ;D dont bother, cuz i kno you dont have anything worth listening to
Maybe you can teach me Economics part-time, while training the IFBB pro division and coaching the judges on the side.
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That was cool. BTW, you don't get that skilled by being lazy. Don't roll your eye's, I don't follow soccer.
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Maybe you can teach me Economics part-time, while training the IFBB pro division and coaching the judges on the side.
What ever the liberals have been doing, has been working great!
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your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
How come you have athletes as skinny as a rake that bench and deadlift plus squat more than alot of BB's do ? they use drugs also to help in there performence plus use different rep ranges in there cycling/training ?
I actualy agree with you to a point - progressive overload within a certain rep range will make your muscles bigger if you are using correct recovery tecniques like diet and drugs etc - but there does come a point when you will not get stronger no matter what you do then there are joints and tendons etc..You cannot use Ronnie as an example as the man is a genetic freak - but your view that progressive overload is the only way to grow is wrong and a narrow mindset to have - you will not agree to this now but in 5 years time once you have some more experience under your belt I bet you will change your mind..A muscle needs stimulation that it is not used to - thats what makes it grow as long as its refed and recovered - progressive overload is one way but there are many others also.
I cant train as heavy as I used to due to injurys alot of that came from following what you preach - i now makesure the muscle is well stimulated - i use shorter rest periods supersets drop sets etc to keep the muscle guessing and i am bigger and leaner than i was when i was stronger..you will see this as you gain more experience bro.
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I cant train as heavy as I used to due to injurys alot of that came from following what you preach - i now makesure the muscle is well stimulated - i use shorter rest periods supersets drop sets etc to keep the muscle guessing and i am bigger and leaner than i was when i was stronger..you will see this as you gain more experience bro.
Spot on ,brother.
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dexter hasnt made a single improvement in 10 years....when they gave him his olympia they were pretty much telling him "you can stop now"...
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How come you have athletes as skinny as a rake that bench and deadlift plus squat more than alot of BB's do ? they use drugs also to help in there performence plus use different rep ranges in there cycling/training ?
I actualy agree with you to a point - progressive overload within a certain rep range will make your muscles bigger if you are using correct recovery tecniques like diet and drugs etc - but there does come a point when you will not get stronger no matter what you do then there are joints and tendons etc..You cannot use Ronnie as an example as the man is a genetic freak - but your view that progressive overload is the only way to grow is wrong and a narrow mindset to have - you will not agree to this now but in 5 years time once you have some more experience under your belt I bet you will change your mind..A muscle needs stimulation that it is not used to - thats what makes it grow as long as its refed and recovered - progressive overload is one way but there are many others also.
I cant train as heavy as I used to due to injurys alot of that came from following what you preach - i now makesure the muscle is well stimulated - i use shorter rest periods supersets drop sets etc to keep the muscle guessing and i am bigger and leaner than i was when i was stronger..you will see this as you gain more experience bro.
Exactly. Look at guys like Paul Dillett, who trained relatively light and took it easy compared to guys like Ronnie and Doz. No way was Dillett going to add 2 inches to his arms if he started lifting Ronnie's weights (not that he could). At the level of drugs these guys take after years and years of lifting, progressive overload isn't going to contribute to even 10% of their growth.
dexter hasnt made a single improvement in 10 years....when they gave him his olympia they were pretty much telling him "you can stop now"...
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He's actually gotten worse in the last 2 years compared to his top shape from years ago. He would've won this contest if he was full and had Branch's conditioning, but he got beaten fair and square.
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dexter hasnt made a single improvement in 10 years....when they gave him his olympia they were pretty much telling him "you can stop now"...
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oh snap, this was fucking brutal
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yes, but bodybuilding has a little to do with training....Flex was lazy.
Charles Glass had to tell Flex not to train so hard---this was during his rookie year...And the Great Nasser himself said Flex wasn't lazy...how can one break their neck in two places and come back the next yr to win the Ironman and place 2nd at the Arnold, be lazy...
He already torn his bicep before...
It is Wolf that is lazy...
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oh snap, this was fucking brutal
its true though...look at everyone in that top 4 photo....those guys are always improving, and are rewarded for it...they want to see progress in any way..be it shape, size, or conditioning...
dexter isnt the first this has happened too...look at cormier...he looked the same for longer than dex, and he stopped getting placement too..
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I've seen Flex train at least 5 or more times....he's lazy!
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I've seen Flex train at least 5 or more times....he's lazy!
Stand up when you are talking...oh wait you are ;D
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I've seen Flex train at least 5 or more times....he's lazy!
you don't even need to see him train to know he is lazy....lazy people always make excuses for everything...and flex never opens his mouth unless he is making a excuse, or talking shit...
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Haha:((
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How come you have athletes as skinny as a rake that bench and deadlift plus squat more than alot of BB's do ? they use drugs also to help in there performence plus use different rep ranges in there cycling/training ?
I actualy agree with you to a point - progressive overload within a certain rep range will make your muscles bigger if you are using correct recovery tecniques like diet and drugs etc - but there does come a point when you will not get stronger no matter what you do then there are joints and tendons etc..You cannot use Ronnie as an example as the man is a genetic freak - but your view that progressive overload is the only way to grow is wrong and a narrow mindset to have - you will not agree to this now but in 5 years time once you have some more experience under your belt I bet you will change your mind..A muscle needs stimulation that it is not used to - thats what makes it grow as long as its refed and recovered - progressive overload is one way but there are many others also.
I cant train as heavy as I used to due to injurys alot of that came from following what you preach - i now makesure the muscle is well stimulated - i use shorter rest periods supersets drop sets etc to keep the muscle guessing and i am bigger and leaner than i was when i was stronger..you will see this as you gain more experience bro.
Good post Will...........preach to the kid.
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Absolutely...also think that it depends a lot on the indiviual as well. I've seen, what you would call a twink with maybe 15 inch arms benching 190 kgs for a few reps (and found out later he was on sustanon). I myself have never benched 190 but used to rep out with 160 for 10 quite easily but couldn't even do 1 rep with 180. Similarly I could bench 140 for sets of 15. I watched a guy at an old gym of mine who used to reverse grip 140 for sets of 40 reps and could bench well in excess of 220kg for decent reps and had arms that looked like he could barely bench 120 let alone almost double that. And I have seen a genetic freak who, at around 5'8 had almost 20 inch arms, looked amazing - complete package material - almost like a slightly smaller version of Shawn Ray and I never saw him bench more than 120kgs unassisted. In fact judging by how many times I saw him training I don't actually think he could bench more than that although his training partner regularly had to do upright rows and bent over rows with up to 200kgs because that is the way theis guy trained - huge weights but couldn't do any of it unspotted.
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your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
Hahaha, you're so full of shit. In my gym i've seen juicers with 19 inch arms struggling with 250 pounds on the bench, while skinny oly lifters are strict overheadpressing 225 for reps, and squatting 550 for reps. Now go spread your bullshit somewhere else. Comparing a miata with musclestrength? lmfao, monster analogy.
Ill give you this:
Strength is Directly related to a person's leverage and conditioning of his/her CNS.
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your extremely arrogant and you woudl do well to listen to people who know more than you..
still waiting for your idea on the best type of economy. :D :-\ ;D dont bother, cuz i kno you dont have anything worth listening to
you aren't one of them.
and according to how bodybuilding contests are judged Branch won hands down , Branch in fact won with straight firsts across the board.
the problem isn't the judges don't know shit about bodybuilding , it's you don't know shit about bodybuilding.
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your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
before you said something like:"bodybuilding is about who looks the best..."
judges dont judge you by how much you lift,neither does the pretty girl at the beach who sees you walk by...
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you aren't one of them.
and according to how bodybuilding contests are judged Branch won hands down , Branch in fact won with straight firsts across the board.
the problem isn't the judges don't know shit about bodybuilding , it's you don't know shit about bodybuilding.
Nicely put
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your extremely misguided if you dont think that increasing poundage increases muscle size.
the strength of a muscle is directly related to its area(size). scientific FACT.
let me make this a little easier for you to understand.
lets say you have a 20lb steel ball. you try holding it up with a regular size rubber band. the rubber band breaks. now you try a rubber band that is a half inch thick. holds up a little while, but it breaks . now you try a rubber band that is 2 inches thick, it holds the 20lb ball just fine.
or another example, you are trying to tow a 20 thousand pound trailer. first you try to tow it with a mazda miada. no luck. second you try towing it with a 1500 silverado. no luck. third you try a big rig. and it finally tows the 20 thousand pound trailer.
you need more machinery to handle bigger loads.
basic physics. retard
Youre assuming a muscle works like any of the other things in your example.
But this is easily disproven.. a miata wouldnt move that trailer ten feet, yet you have 150 lb twinks benching rediculous amounts, which negates youre whole theory right there.
It has a lot more to do with the how the muscle functions and interacts with other parts of the body, like someone else said, the CNS, leverage (Length of limbs) etc,
I dont know fuck all about the body or musculature, but this is plainly evident.
Youre doing exactly what I used to do, come up with a theory that fits your current experience and how YOU think people should train, and spread it as gospel, and it simply isnt truth.
Like someone else said, as you get older and accumulate more experience youll realize you dont know shit.
At least, thats what happened to me.
The more I learn, the more I realize I dont know shit.
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according to how bodybuilding contests are judged .
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Charles Glass had to tell Flex not to train so hard---this was during his rookie year...And the Great Nasser himself said Flex wasn't lazy...how can one break their neck in two places and come back the next yr to win the Ironman and place 2nd at the Arnold, be lazy...
He already torn his bicep before...
It is Wolf that is lazy...
flex picked up the lazy label when he started having endurance issues from his kidney problems.
i wouldnt say wolfe is lazy but he lifts like a pussy. his genetic shape from the front is good enough for top 5 in the O or A even when he is half-assing it. his back several yrs later tells the tail of his true work ethic.
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your extremely arrogant and you woudl do well to listen to people who know more than you..
Holy shit, I just spit out my frosted flakes 400 gram whey condensed super absorbant protein shake!!!
HHHHHHahahahahaaaa tdongz bringing the funny!!! ;D ;D
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Holy shit, I just spit out my frosted flakes 400 gram whey condensed super absorbant protein shake!!!
HHHHHHahahahahaaaa tdongz bringing the funny!!! ;D ;D
I'm thinking of updating the "Irony" page in Wikipedia with tdongz's post...
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I'm thinking of updating the "Irony" page in Wikipedia with tdongz's post...
Indeed.
I think he believes that juicing a bunch and hanging around wannabe bodybuilders makes him qualified to be an IFBB judge. ???
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How come you have athletes as skinny as a rake that bench and deadlift plus squat more than alot of BB's do ? they use drugs also to help in there performence plus use different rep ranges in there cycling/training ?
I actualy agree with you to a point - progressive overload within a certain rep range will make your muscles bigger if you are using correct recovery tecniques like diet and drugs etc - but there does come a point when you will not get stronger no matter what you do then there are joints and tendons etc..You cannot use Ronnie as an example as the man is a genetic freak - but your view that progressive overload is the only way to grow is wrong and a narrow mindset to have - you will not agree to this now but in 5 years time once you have some more experience under your belt I bet you will change your mind..A muscle needs stimulation that it is not used to - thats what makes it grow as long as its refed and recovered - progressive overload is one way but there are many others also.
I cant train as heavy as I used to due to injurys alot of that came from following what you preach - i now makesure the muscle is well stimulated - i use shorter rest periods supersets drop sets etc to keep the muscle guessing and i am bigger and leaner than i was when i was stronger..you will see this as you gain more experience bro.
prgressive overload is not the only way to mae a muscle grow. its posible for a muscle to go through drug use alone.
Exactly. Look at guys like Paul Dillett, who trained relatively light and took it easy compared to guys like Ronnie and Doz. No way was Dillett going to add 2 inches to his arms if he started lifting Ronnie's weights (not that he could). At the level of drugs these guys take after years and years of lifting, progressive overload isn't going to contribute to even 10% of their growth.
He's actually gotten worse in the last 2 years compared to his top shape from years ago. He would've won this contest if he was full and had Branch's conditioning, but he got beaten fair and square.
there is a certain point where a skeletal fram is maxed out. dillet was very close to it. and thats why he wouldnt have grwn much if he started lifting heavier. not ebcause lifting heavier doesnt work. you look at massive ifbb pros all day long and its not going to help you any, cuz all thse gys got where they are by overloading themselves with drugs.
dillet didnt get huge because he trained light and lazy, he got huge because he took loads of drugs and had goo genetic response to them.
Hahaha, you're so full of shit. In my gym i've seen juicers with 19 inch arms struggling with 250 pounds on the bench, while skinny oly lifters are strict overheadpressing 225 for reps, and squatting 550 for reps. Now go spread your bullshit somewhere else. Comparing a miata with musclestrength? lmfao, monster analogy.
Ill give you this:
Strength is Directly related to a person's leverage and conditioning of his/her CNS.
Youre assuming a muscle works like any of the other things in your example.
But this is easily disproven.. a miata wouldnt move that trailer ten feet, yet you have 150 lb twinks benching rediculous amounts, which negates youre whole theory right there.
It has a lot more to do with the how the muscle functions and interacts with other parts of the body, like someone else said, the CNS, leverage (Length of limbs) etc,
I dont know fuck all about the body or musculature, but this is plainly evident.
Youre doing exactly what I used to do, come up with a theory that fits your current experience and how YOU think people should train, and spread it as gospel, and it simply isnt truth.
Like someone else said, as you get older and accumulate more experience youll realize you dont know shit.
At least, thats what happened to me.
The more I learn, the more I realize I dont know shit.
this seems common idea when ever this subject cmes up. " if size=strength then how come skiny powerlifters can outlift massive bodybuilders??"
no where didi ever say that odyweight correlated to muscle strength. no did i sa that two pople with the same size muscles will have the same strength. ON ANINDIVIDUAL LEVEL, IN ORDER TO GET BIGGER, DISREGARDING DRUG USE, IS TO GET STRONGER.