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Title: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 06, 2011, 08:45:16 PM



Men Bodybuilding Overall - Matthias Botthof
Classic Bodybuilding Overall - Jerzy Pisulski

Fitness Overall - Diana Alemida
Figure Masters Overall - Raquel Hernandez
Figure Overall - Darlene Escano
Bikini Overall - Ingrid Romero

Men Bodybuilding
Lightweight
1. Jose Santos
2. Marcelo Honorio
3. Eric Hernandez
4. Godo Koji
5. Jose Bustamante

Welter Weight
1. Zuccaro Alex
2. Vyacheslav Makogon
3. Karol Malecki
4. Fabio Junior
5. Masucci Filippo

Light Middleweight
1. Gilmar Silva
2. Igor Losev
3. Anthony Marmon
4. So Jaffy
5. Suewendley Franciska

Middleweight
1. Foucaux Peter
2. Marco Espinosa
3. Verdiyev Vugar
4. Jose Leocadio-Flores
5. Vomacka Marek

Light Heavyweight
1. Alexander Kodsoev
2. Dobromir Delev
3. Almohaimeed Ahmed
4. Giusto Dennis
5. Ahmad Salim Saleh Al Harthi

Heavyweight
1. Alexey Lesukov
2. Bures Tomas
3. William Kwaku Bonac
4. Angel Higueras
5. Marshel Herman

Super Heavyweight
1. Matthias Botthof
2. Antoine Vaillant
3. David Hoffmann
4. Julio Cesar Balestrim
5. Eddie Percy Wilson

Men Bodybuilding Classic
Men Class A
1. Jesus Quintana
2. Chantha Yun
3. Bob Reiner

Men Class B
1. Mriusz Balanzinski
2. Marcello Costa
3. Rodolfo Rodriguez
4. Tony Roberts
5. Mark Wingson
Anthony Novak
Cherry Pikeri
Joel Gaspar

Men Class C
1. Jerzy Pisulski
2. Sitter Michal
3. Xavier Amado
4. Harry Ogg
5. Luiz Exaltacao
Prikhodko Alexander
Ali Daliran
Chris Hartzler
Roberto Meirelles

Women Bodybuilding
Women Lightweight
1. Marina Lemenovskaya

Women Heavyweight
1. Alevtina Goroshinskaya

Fitness
Fitness Short
1. Diana Alemida
2. Guryeva Olga
3. Paula Williams-Gulman
4. Shalimar Wilder
5. Samantha Kinnish

Fitness Tall
1.
2. Czine Szilvia
3. Jayla McDermott
4. Dvortsova Tatiana
5. Meredith Miller

Figure
Figure Masters Short
1. Anna Giordani
2. Lynne Nichols
3. Maria Carlone
4. Sabrina Dodson
5. Nina Cash

Figure Masters Medium
1. Raquel Hernandez
2. Linda O-Andrew
3. Katerina Tarbox
4. Elsa Geraldo
5. Heather Ruelan

Figure Masters Tall
1. Tetyana Mikheychyk
2. Sandy Scamman
3. Marlene Koekemoer
4. Linda Stephens
5. Andrea Ternes

Figure Class A
1. Angela DeFrancesco

Figure Class B
1.
2.
3.
4. Lauren Jacobsen

Figure Class C

Figure Class D
1.
2. Cheryl Davis
3. Rosa Valente

Figure Class E
1.
2. Allison Moyer
3. Francisca Dennis

Figure Class F
1.
2.
3. Emily Zelinka
4. Essence Ashford

Bikini
Bikini Class A
1.
2. Khay Rosemond
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (video)
Post by: musclecenter on March 06, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
 Amateur Figure Classes and Awards




Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Neptuno on March 07, 2011, 03:00:10 AM
Two spaniards winning in Figures and Bikinis Overall!!!

Congratulations for both. Raquel Hernandez  y Ingrid Romero

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 04:26:03 AM
Koji Godo 4th at lightweight, that guy has been on the international circuit for years, never quite gets the top 3 but very consistent :)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2011, 05:08:31 AM
Koji Godo 4th at lightweight, that guy has been on the international circuit for years, never quite gets the top 3 but very consistent :)
The guy is a nut. he sacrified his left eye to save his natural status.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 05:10:00 AM
Koji Godo 4th at lightweight, that guy has been on the international circuit for years, never quite gets the top 3 but very consistent :)
he is over 25 years at competitions i think.
here are pics at 2011 Arnold Amateur(courtesy of ironmanjapan)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 05:16:35 AM
The guy is a nut. he sacrified his left eye to save his natural status.
x2

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 05:20:18 AM
x2



If you both believe he is natural then you are both deluded and senile ::) he does steroids and HGH, it doesnt take anything away from the fact that he is a consistent bodybuilder who is a regular top 6 guy in international contest ;)

Come on musclecenter you know better, are you going to tell me Jaffy So is natural too ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 05:30:35 AM
If you both believe he is natural then you are both deluded and senile ::) he does steroids and HGH, it doesnt take anything away from the fact that he is a consistent bodybuilder who is a regular top 6 guy in international contest ;)

Come on musclecenter you know better, are you going to tell me Jaffy So is natural too ::)
:-X :-\
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 06:10:02 AM
:-X :-\

Want me to PM you their cycles or shall i post it here ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 06:35:01 AM
Want me to PM you their cycles or shall i post it here ;)
not my business.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 06:53:42 AM
not my business.

So why do you champion the self titled ''naturals'' then? i mean they do not have to admit they use steroids its their own business but they do not have to shout ''natural' all the time ::) lying is wrong and they are liars, i respect Koji as a bodybuilder, we all train and we all love the sport but i do not respect him as a man as his character is suspect, lying should not be condoned in anyway, surely a man of your character and background knows this.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 07:05:26 AM
Koji gets better with age, 4 times Mr Japan,4th place at the world games in 2009, 6th place at world championships last year now 4th at the Arnold, im sure the guy can go on for years, he can do the masters worlds in the future ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Meso_z on March 07, 2011, 07:29:41 AM



Men Bodybuilding Overall - Matthias Botthof
Classic Bodybuilding Overall - Jerzy Pisulski

Fitness Overall - Diana Alemida
Figure Masters Overall - Raquel Hernandez
Figure Overall - Darlene Escano
Bikini Overall - Ingrid Romero

Men Bodybuilding
Lightweight
1. Jose Santos
2. Marcelo Honorio
3. Eric Hernandez
4. Godo Koji
5. Jose Bustamante

Welter Weight
1. Zuccaro Alex
2. Vyacheslav Makogon
3. Karol Malecki
4. Fabio Junior
5. Masucci Filippo

Light Middleweight
1. Gilmar Silva
2. Igor Losev
3. Anthony Marmon
4. So Jaffy
5. Suewendley Franciska

Middleweight
1. Foucaux Peter
2. Marco Espinosa
3. Verdiyev Vugar
4. Jose Leocadio-Flores
5. Vomacka Marek

Light Heavyweight
1. Alexander Kodsoev
2. Dobromir Delev
3. Almohaimeed Ahmed
4. Giusto Dennis
5. Ahmad Salim Saleh Al Harthi

Heavyweight
1. Alexey Lesukov
2. Bures Tomas
3. William Kwaku Bonac
4. Angel Higueras
5. Marshel Herman

Super Heavyweight
1. Matthias Botthof
2. Antoine Vaillant
3. David Hoffmann
4. Julio Cesar Balestrim
5. Eddie Percy Wilson

Men Bodybuilding Classic
Men Class A
1. Jesus Quintana
2. Chantha Yun
3. Bob Reiner

Men Class B
1. Mriusz Balanzinski
2. Marcello Costa
3. Rodolfo Rodriguez
4. Tony Roberts
5. Mark Wingson
Anthony Novak
Cherry Pikeri
Joel Gaspar

Men Class C
1. Jerzy Pisulski
2. Sitter Michal
3. Xavier Amado
4. Harry Ogg
5. Luiz Exaltacao
Prikhodko Alexander
Ali Daliran
Chris Hartzler
Roberto Meirelles

Women Bodybuilding
Women Lightweight
1. Marina Lemenovskaya

Women Heavyweight
1. Alevtina Goroshinskaya

Fitness
Fitness Short
1. Diana Alemida
2. Guryeva Olga
3. Paula Williams-Gulman
4. Shalimar Wilder
5. Samantha Kinnish

Fitness Tall
1.
2. Czine Szilvia
3. Jayla McDermott
4. Dvortsova Tatiana
5. Meredith Miller

Figure
Figure Masters Short
1. Anna Giordani
2. Lynne Nichols
3. Maria Carlone
4. Sabrina Dodson
5. Nina Cash

Figure Masters Medium
1. Raquel Hernandez
2. Linda O-Andrew
3. Katerina Tarbox
4. Elsa Geraldo
5. Heather Ruelan

Figure Masters Tall
1. Tetyana Mikheychyk
2. Sandy Scamman
3. Marlene Koekemoer
4. Linda Stephens
5. Andrea Ternes

Figure Class A
1. Angela DeFrancesco

Figure Class B
1.
2.
3.
4. Lauren Jacobsen

Figure Class C

Figure Class D
1.
2. Cheryl Davis
3. Rosa Valente

Figure Class E
1.
2. Allison Moyer
3. Francisca Dennis

Figure Class F
1.
2.
3. Emily Zelinka
4. Essence Ashford

Bikini
Bikini Class A
1.
2. Khay Rosemond

Hahaaaha... I actually laughed when Arnold walked in like an Alpha...he looked so disgusted, like he wanted to get the thing done asap and get the hell out of there.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 07:41:30 AM
So why do you champion the self titled ''naturals'' then? i mean they do not have to admit they use steroids its their own business but they do not have to shout ''natural' all the time ::) lying is wrong and they are liars, i respect Koji as a bodybuilder, we all train and we all love the sport but i do not respect him as a man as his character is suspect, lying should not be condoned in anyway, surely a man of your character and background knows this.
i report,you decide ;)

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 07:52:55 AM
i report,you decide ;)



I have a lot of respect for you musclecenter, you have stayed in great shape all your life, you off'ed PLA soldiers ;D, you competed in Mr Universe at a time when bodybuilding was far more respected,you link a lot of good vids for us on getbig and you report contest info,you troll with us retards on getbig, for your age you well in touch with things, just sometimes i want to know your honest opinions on modern bodybuilding,training,drug use, everything ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 07:59:36 AM
I have a lot of respect for you musclecenter, you have stayed in great shape all your life, you off'ed PLA soldiers ;D, you competed in IFBB Mr Universe at 4 time when bodybuilding was far more respected,you link a lot of good vids for us on getbig and you report contest info,you troll with us retards on getbig, for your age you well in touch with things, just sometimes i want to know your honest opinions on modern bodybuilding,training,drug use, everything ;)
Honestly,I against using drugs(no offense )
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Tito24 on March 07, 2011, 08:04:33 AM
(http://www.anthonyroberts.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SchmoeBro.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 08:06:07 AM
(http://www.anthonyroberts.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SchmoeBro.jpg)
improved forearm ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Tito24 on March 07, 2011, 08:09:21 AM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_8N6CiuF9s5XOrWWk1gdEsOSSTbGgWRV1Oj9y2e7aD67Mt4ND&t=1)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2011, 08:35:10 AM
If you both believe he is natural then you are both deluded and senile ::) he does steroids and HGH, it doesnt take anything away from the fact that he is a consistent bodybuilder who is a regular top 6 guy in international contest ;)

Come on musclecenter you know better, are you going to tell me Jaffy So is natural too ::)
Then why his doctor said that he had to lose his left eye if he denies the juicing for his eye?
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 09:50:13 AM
Then why his doctor said that he had to lose his left eye if he denies the juicing for his eye?

he is not natural, and i wouldnt believe everything in that TV show, they need some drama and human interest underdog element otherwise nobody would watch
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 09:55:23 AM
Honestly,I against using drugs(no offense )

I am against drugs (rec. drugs) too, but i dont think its a problem to use steroids to build your body, if you compete in these times then you have no choice, this goes for all of us :(
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: hugestatus on March 07, 2011, 01:28:16 PM
Dayum, Sami the Blacksmith came nowhere :(
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2011, 10:59:30 PM
Alexey Lesukov's free-posing at 2011 Arnold Amateur

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 07, 2011, 11:25:31 PM
Dayum, Swampi the Cocksmith came nowhere :(

Fixed
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: G_Thang on March 07, 2011, 11:33:23 PM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_8N6CiuF9s5XOrWWk1gdEsOSSTbGgWRV1Oj9y2e7aD67Mt4ND&t=1)

clown!


MC...you're a bigger schmoe than the clown above for not giving a special "shout out" to the asian honey from aussie land.

 (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2713/68/110/656241170/n656241170_2872348_4315069.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 12:57:19 AM
 More videos here:http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse (http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse)


Super-Heavyweight line up
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 01:44:43 AM
More videos here:http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse (http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse)


Super-Heavyweight line up


David Hoffmann and Antoine Valliant both looked great, glad they were in the top 3
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 08, 2011, 03:44:24 AM
Can't believe Lesukov won in his category. Damn that free posin was awful, he couldn't hide his gut from any angle and looked like a GH sponge Cutler style. Some seas hold less water than he did.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Tito24 on March 08, 2011, 03:52:59 AM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_8N6CiuF9s5XOrWWk1gdEsOSSTbGgWRV1Oj9y2e7aD67Mt4ND&t=1)

the hero father
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 05:47:30 AM
Dayum, Sami the Blacksmith came nowhere :(
3rd at light-heavy
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 06:00:51 AM
I am against drugs (rec. drugs) too, but i dont think its a problem to use steroids to build your body, if you compete in these times then you have no choice, this goes for all of us :(

X2
...after all he is a reporter of contests where people are well known juicers..he knows like we all know what's going on.

just like you i dont understand why some of them have to shout loud that they are natural,when nobody asks or cares..they still are great achievers for at least competing at such a high level whether they manage a win or not ..

if someone takes such a moral stand against the drugs used in the sport(that would NOT exist without them),then why not take a moral stand against the lies too?

my humble 2 cents
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 06:21:37 AM
3rd at light-heavy

Why does Swampi the Cocksmith still not get his pro card ??? he told us last years world championships were his last amateur contest ::)

At the 2010 Arnold Amateur UK bodybuilders Shane Tavernier and Nanu Manu got top 3 finishes and both got pro cards, so why cant Swampi :(
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 06:26:33 AM
X2
...after all he is a reporter of contests where people are well known juicers..he knows like we all know what's going on.

just like you i dont understand why some of them have to shout loud that they are natural,when nobody asks or cares..they still are great achievers for at least competing at such a high level whether they manage a win or not ..

if someone takes such a moral stand against the drugs used in the sport(that would NOT exist without them),then why not take a moral stand against the lies too?

my humble 2 cents


Musclecenter also judges contests and lets the drug users win, somewhat double standards ::)

You are spot on about why would you take a moral stance against the drugs yet support and champion liars like kiyoshi moody etc if using tissue building medication to enhance muscular development through weight training and eating food why is lying not wrong ??? surely to any civilized educated person a liar is worse than a guy who uses test or gh ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 06:41:05 AM
Musclecenter also judges contests and lets the drug users win, somewhat double standards ::)

You are spot on about why would you take a moral stance against the drugs yet support and champion liars like kiyoshi moody etc if using tissue building medication to enhance muscular development through weight training and eating food why is lying not wrong ??? surely to any civilized educated person a liar is worse than a guy who uses test or gh ::)
Seriously,for myself it's about health,not moral issue.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 06:42:15 AM
Musclecenter also judges contests and lets the drug users win, somewhat double standards ::)

You are spot on about why would you take a moral stance against the drugs yet support and champion liars like kiyoshi moody etc if using tissue building medication to enhance muscular development through weight training and eating food why is lying not wrong ??? surely to any civilized educated person a liar is worse than a guy who uses test or gh ::)

i couldnt have said it better
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 06:44:42 AM
Seriously,for myself it's about health,not moral issue.

it did not seem so from your previous post
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 06:55:37 AM
Seriously,for myself it's about health,not moral issue.

What about the health benefits that steroids can give? or how about the mental happiness they bring? i know a lot of people who use, some are competitors and some just like training and looking good, all of them are happy and more confident people from their use (in some cases abuse ;D) so its not like street drugs that ruin lives, its a personal choice just like smoking and drinking alcohol are, i myself never smoked or drank but also know many who do both, i never judge them and respect their choice, i do however think abuse of tobacco and alcohol are serious to health, yet its freely available and people are quite happy to admit to its use and even show it off.

I made one post commenting on my admiration for Kojo Godo and his 4th place finish and you and Kyomu start bringing up the natural BS ::) why was it needed, can we not discuss the guy without that stupid TV show being posted again, or are we to believe you both claim Japanese bodybuilders are all natural ::) the guy takes steroids, big deal, he is still a hardworking bodybuilder who competes against the worlds best all the time and does very well!
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 06:57:02 AM
it did not seem so from your previous post

X2
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 07:16:11 AM
X2
Natural or juice is a very personal business.no need to argue here.
BTW, not like +20 years ago, nowadays as I know 80-90% bodybuilding contestents are not natural(Japanese too).
Even a real natural bodybuilder can’t win at any natural contest!
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 07:16:19 AM
What about the health benefits that steroids can give? or how about the mental happiness they bring? i know a lot of people who use, some are competitors and some just like training and looking good, all of them are happy and more confident people from their use (in some cases abuse ;D) so its not like street drugs that ruin lives, its a personal choice just like smoking and drinking alcohol are, i myself never smoked or drank but also know many who do both, i never judge them and respect their choice, i do however think abuse of tobacco and alcohol are serious to health, yet its freely available and people are quite happy to admit to its use and even show it off.

I made one post commenting on my admiration for Kojo Godo and his 4th place finish and you and Kyomu start bringing up the natural BS ::) why was it needed, can we not discuss the guy without that stupid TV show being posted again, or are we to believe you both claim Japanese bodybuilders are all natural ::) the guy takes steroids, big deal, he is still a hardworking bodybuilder who competes against the worlds best all the time and does very well!

Japanese TV is one of the worst ones in terms of lies and BS..they lie about anything..

if he or anyone else admitted on Tv he was on steroids he would be crucified by the medias and the general public.nope it's much better make him look like the modern natural Samurai of the weight room!! that would make a good show..

you SB started by prasing a hard working guy,and this "only natural mania" turned what was a positive comment into a neverending battle between the forces of good against the forces of evil (of course the naturals being the evil ones ;D ;D ;D ;D )
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 07:18:27 AM
Natural or juice is a very personal business.no need to argue here.
BTW, not like +20 years ago, nowadays as I know 80-90% bodybuilding contestents are not natural(Japanese too).
Even a real natural bodybuilder can’t win at any natural contest!


X2

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

although the number is close to ..more like 100%
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 07:21:12 AM
X2

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

although the number is close to ..more like 100%

now i do guest-posing only.
for a almost 60 years old fart like me,health is the most important issue ;)

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Spike on March 08, 2011, 07:24:25 AM
More videos here:http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse (http://www.youtube.com/user/IFBBUniverse)


Super-Heavyweight line up


really?

I should of entered this class :(

vince goodrum @ 0:27...........no
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 07:26:05 AM
Natural or juice is a very personal business.no need to argue here.
BTW, not like +20 years ago, nowadays as I know 80-90% bodybuilding contestents are not natural(Japanese too).
Even a real natural bodybuilder can’t win at any natural contest!


Yes, the real sad thing is real natural bodybuilders who enter the natural contests and lose to guys who juice and are not ''natural'' this is really bad, thats why i really cant stand Kiyoshi,Faildo,Lacour etc because they are not natural yet wont shut up about it ::) and only win because real honest guys who are natural do it fairly only for those insecure liars to beat them and claim ''genetics'' ::) so the real natural guys think they do not have the genetics for the sport and quit, so stop promoting and championing these assholes, you are only supporting their lies and cheating ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 07:27:07 AM
really?

I should of entered this class :(

vince goodrum @ 0:27...........no

Seriously Spike enter next year, you would do well ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: WEIBK on March 08, 2011, 07:31:50 AM
What about the health benefits that steroids can give? or how about the mental happiness they bring? i know a lot of people who use, some are competitors and some just like training and looking good, all of them are happy and more confident people from their use (in some cases abuse ;D) so its not like street drugs that ruin lives, its a personal choice just like smoking and drinking alcohol are, i myself never smoked or drank but also know many who do both, i never judge them and respect their choice, i do however think abuse of tobacco and alcohol are serious to health, yet its freely available and people are quite happy to admit to its use and even show it off.

I made one post commenting on my admiration for Kojo Godo and his 4th place finish and you and Kyomu start bringing up the natural BS ::) why was it needed, can we not discuss the guy without that stupid TV show being posted again, or are we to believe you both claim Japanese bodybuilders are all natural ::) the guy takes steroids, big deal, he is still a hardworking bodybuilder who competes against the worlds best all the time and does very well!

Hi Schmoe Buster, I totally agree with you, without steriods never reach to such shape, every body using, but denying , but when they fail doping . then they keep quit till their suspension will be over.
Happy to read your topics. Regards.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 07:33:06 AM
Yes, the real sad thing is real natural bodybuilders who enter the natural contests and lose to guys who juice and are not ''natural'' this is really bad, thats why i really cant stand Kiyoshi,Faildo,Lacour etc because they are not natural yet wont shut up about it ::) and only win because real honest guys who are natural do it fairly only for those insecure liars to beat them and claim ''genetics'' ::) so the real natural guys think they do not have the genetics for the sport and quit, so stop promoting reporting and championing these assholes, you are only supporting their lies and cheating ::)
juice or not,still can be friends.
if report "natural contest" only,then will be nothing to post ;D ;D
I report,you decide hate ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 07:37:59 AM
Hi Schmoe Buster, I totally agree with you, without steriods never reach to such shape, every body using, but denying , but when they fail doping . then they keep quit till their suspension will be over.
Happy to read your topics. Regards.

WEIBK, good to see you

The dilemma for the modern competitor is they have to use steroids just to have a chance to compete and place, then when they want to move up to higher level contest they have to increase the amount of steroids they use, even the testing of doping system is not fair, judges require the steroid look so competitors take steroids then the federation test them, this is really double standard and one reason the sport isnt more mainstream.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Spike on March 08, 2011, 07:39:57 AM
WEIBK, good to see you

The dilemma for the modern competitor is they have to use steroids just to have a chance to compete and place, then when they want to move up to higher level contest they have to increase the amount of steroids they use, even the testing of doping system is not fair, judges require the steroid look so competitors take steroids then the federation test them, this is really double standard and one reason the sport isnt more mainstream.
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sounds alot like how the WADA and IOC work

but their woman still look normal
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 07:44:08 AM
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sounds alot like how the WADA and IOC work

but their woman still look normal

Outside of the USA a lot of IFBB contest are drug tested by WADA, because of Ben Weider wanting to be an olympic sport, lucky Manion and the NPC didnt care about the olympics ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 08, 2011, 05:04:10 PM
Yes, the real sad thing is real natural bodybuilders who enter the natural contests and lose to guys who juice and are not ''natural'' this is really bad, thats why i really cant stand Kiyoshi,Faildo,Lacour etc because they are not natural yet wont shut up about it ::) and only win because real honest guys who are natural do it fairly only for those insecure liars to beat them and claim ''genetics'' ::) so the real natural guys think they do not have the genetics for the sport and quit, so stop promoting and championing these assholes, you are only supporting their lies and cheating ::)
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Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: WEIBK on March 08, 2011, 08:07:25 PM
WEIBK, good to see you

The dilemma for the modern competitor is they have to use steroids just to have a chance to compete and place, then when they want to move up to higher level contest they have to increase the amount of steroids they use, even the testing of doping system is not fair, judges require the steroid look so competitors take steroids then the federation test them, this is really double standard and one reason the sport isnt more mainstream.

You are right, and goo to see you too.. thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 08, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
You are right, and goo to see you too.. thanks.

I think one reason that the IFBB have classic bodybuilding division and the WBPF have the athletic division is to give a chance to those who want to compete but dont want to have to use high amounts of steroids to do so, its a good idea but they competitors will still us steroids but at least due to the height/weight ratio system they cant get too big, where as in the open division a guy doesnt place as high as he likes so he asks the judges ''what should i do to place better?'' he gets told '' you need more mass, you need to be bigger'' so he increases the dose of steroids, its really catch 22 situation for the bodybuilder.

What i think is far more of a problem in bodybuilding especially at the amateur level is contest fixing and corruption, its funny that musclecenter appears to have no problem with contest fixing, perhaps he is part of it ???
The reason for the doping tests is a simple way for corrupt officials to solicit bribes from competitors and national feds, or to get rid of someone they do not like, ive seen this happen with my own eyes, this is a bigger problem than guys using steroids, i mean to draw a crowd and sell tickets to contest bodybuilders must be big and muscular, people buy a ticket to see freaks not to see a bunch of swimmers posing ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 08, 2011, 09:34:46 PM
I think one reason that the IFBB have classic bodybuilding division and the WBPF have the athletic division is to give a chance to those who want to compete but dont want to have to use high amounts of steroids to do so, its a good idea but they competitors will still us steroids but at least due to the height/weight ratio system they cant get too big, where as in the open division a guy doesnt place as high as he likes so he asks the judges ''what should i do to place better?'' he gets told '' you need more mass, you need to be bigger'' so he increases the dose of steroids, its really catch 22 situation for the bodybuilder.

What i think is far more of a problem in bodybuilding especially at the amateur level is contest fixing and corruption, its funny that musclecenter appears to have no problem with contest fixing, perhaps he is part of it ??? The reason for the doping tests is a simple way for corrupt officials to solicit bribes from competitors and national feds, or to get rid of someone they do not like, ive seen this happen with my own eyes, this is a bigger problem than guys using steroids, i mean to draw a crowd and sell tickets to contest bodybuilders must be big and muscular, people buy a ticket to see freaks not to see a bunch of swimmers posing ;)

do not say anything I did not do.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: WEIBK on March 08, 2011, 10:25:20 PM
I think one reason that the IFBB have classic bodybuilding division and the WBPF have the athletic division is to give a chance to those who want to compete but dont want to have to use high amounts of steroids to do so, its a good idea but they competitors will still us steroids but at least due to the height/weight ratio system they cant get too big, where as in the open division a guy doesnt place as high as he likes so he asks the judges ''what should i do to place better?'' he gets told '' you need more mass, you need to be bigger'' so he increases the dose of steroids, its really catch 22 situation for the bodybuilder.

What i think is far more of a problem in bodybuilding especially at the amateur level is contest fixing and corruption, its funny that musclecenter appears to have no problem with contest fixing, perhaps he is part of it ???
The reason for the doping tests is a simple way for corrupt officials to solicit bribes from competitors and national feds, or to get rid of someone they do not like, ive seen this happen with my own eyes, this is a bigger problem than guys using steroids, i mean to draw a crowd and sell tickets to contest bodybuilders must be big and muscular, people buy a ticket to see freaks not to see a bunch of swimmers posing ;)
I have also witnessed myself some doping cheating, and corrupt, like what happened in last IFBB championship in Baku, random test, and those their nipples was hanging due to steroids was not tested.
Doping is mandatory in Games , and it happened in last Asian Beach Games the top 5 was tested, because these medals will remain for ever not like other championship.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 01:33:44 AM
do not say anything I did not do.

I wrote "perhaps he is part of it ???" I did not state you were part of it ::)

You champion liars, look down on steroid users, yet reward them with champonships when you judge, when the whole Chua getting kicked out of IFBB shit went down you said nothing, and you knew all about it ::)

You insult me by calling me a hater when I am simply a realist who see's things for what they are.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 09, 2011, 02:52:07 AM
I wrote "perhaps he is part of it ???" I did not state you were part of it ::)

You champion liars, look down on steroid users, yet reward them with champonships when you judge, when the whole Chua getting kicked out of IFBB shit went down you said nothing, and you knew all about it ::)

You insult me by calling me a hater when I am simply a realist who see's things for what they are.
I was be a judge at 2010 HK BB Championships (only this time)since 1995.
How do you know my judgment unfair? ???
And on bb forum,we mainly discuss about "physique", not about who is liar?who is honest?
Mostly I just report,not critize who is "liar"...
Anyway,sometime I am as a hater too. ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 03:02:25 AM
I was be a judge at 2010 HK BB Championships (only this time)since 1995.
How do you know my judgment unfair? ???
And on bb forum,we mainly discuss about "physique", not about who is liar?who is honest?
Mostly I just report,not critize who is "liar"...
Anyway,sometime I am as a hater too. ;D

When did i say your judgement is unfair? i didnt, why are you so insecure?

you champion liars by taking every chance to post they are natural when surely deep down you must know they are not, you call us haters because we question Faildo and Moody over this, nobody here is a true hater we all like bodybuilding and working out, many of us dont like how the sport and industry has become so shameful and dishonest, gh15 says bodybuilding is a cult and he is right and all of us are a part of it.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 09, 2011, 03:12:36 AM
When did i say your judgement is unfair? i didnt, why are you so insecure?

you champion liars by taking every chance to post they are natural when surely deep down you must know they are not, you call us haters because we question Faildo and Moody over this, nobody here is a true hater we all like bodybuilding and working out, many of us dont like how the sport and industry has become so shameful and dishonest, gh15 says bodybuilding is a cult and he is right and all of us are a part of it.
Mostly I report what's happen in this industry and quote what they said.
And I post under my real pics, name. And very few getbiggers does like me.

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 09, 2011, 03:25:04 AM
Lots of "x2's" in this thread.... oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 03:27:42 AM
Mostly I report what's happen in this industry and quote what they said.
And I post under my real pics, name. And very few getbiggers does like me.



Just because some of us freely choose to keep our privacy while you choose not too does not make our opinions less valid, everyone should be equal on a message forum, so by posting your pics and real name makes better than others, like i stated before why are you so insecure or is it you seek attention? i think its a bit of both.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 03:28:40 AM
Lots of "x2's" in this thread.... oh brother  ::)

X2 ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 09, 2011, 03:32:18 AM
Just because some of us freely choose to keep our privacy while you choose not too does not make our opinions less valid, everyone should be equal on a message forum, so by posting your pics and real name makes better than others, like i stated before why are you so insecure or is it you seek attention? i think its a bit of both.
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 03:34:44 AM


Oh brother ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Men's Results, overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 09, 2011, 03:39:08 AM
Oh brother ::)
that's 50% reason i keeping post my pics EVERY month in getbig.com ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.775 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.775)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: musclecenter on March 09, 2011, 04:06:23 AM
Sami the Blacksmith's interview

Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 09, 2011, 05:40:48 AM
Sami the Blacksmith's interview



Swampi the Cocksmith meltdown over the judging ;D, hope he does well at the Uk amateur olympia :)
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 09, 2011, 05:42:11 AM
Lots of "x2's" in this thread.... oh brother  ::)

X2
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Arnold Amateur - Full Results, Men's overall posedown & Awards (videos)
Post by: bladerunner on March 09, 2011, 05:43:20 AM
X2 ;D


ooopsss,i just noticed you did the same X2 thing to nzmusclemonster

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D