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Title: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:06:14 PM
Here i am after a long lay over from hardcore bodybuilding. I was unemployed for about 3 months in the winter and now trying to get back on my feet. This is probably part of the reason for that lack in quality in my gains :(. This sadly is the biggest and leanest I've been ever. Here i am at about 208-210. I don't want to get any heavier then this this off season and i want to improve on the quality of it before i start dieting. I am about 23 and 26 weeks out (doing 2 shows). I am having a bit of a problem. I notice that my chest is pretty thick from the side but skimpy from the front especially during FDB and Front lat spreads. Im about to drop doing heavy smith inclines and switch to flat heavy DB as my base exercise.

It looks like what i need to work on most are the side of my arms and pecs... My problem with pecs is my delts overpower them and are taking the bulk of the load when i train chest. I need advices. My arms have made great gains in size but still look small too.

Siderbar: The magical lamp had to go into retirement so getbig gets the raw deal. Yes... i know i look like fat shit.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Army of One on March 14, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
Post up the first pic you ever posted here compared to the latest, youve made some impressive gains.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Post up the first pic you ever posted here compared to the latest, youve made some impressive gains.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
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Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: kevinf on March 14, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
lookin sharp for offseason dude,
what do your arms measure in contest shape? and how much size do they lose while dieting
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 14, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
I miss the blue dust ruffle.  :(

PS. Your delts do not "overpower"  your chest- not even close. Keep doing exactly what you've been doing. Change nothing.

PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email.  I'll buy you lunch. 
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: tbombz on March 14, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
Here i am after a long lay over from hardcore bodybuilding. I was unemployed for about 3 months in the winter and now trying to get back on my feet. This is probably part of the reason for that lack in quality in my gains :(. This sadly is the biggest and leanest I've been ever. Here i am at about 208-210. I don't want to get any heavier then this this off season and i want to improve on the quality of it before i start dieting. I am about 23 and 26 weeks out (doing 2 shows). I am having a bit of a problem. I notice that my chest is pretty thick from the side but skimpy from the front especially during FDB and Front lat spreads. Im about to drop doing heavy smith inclines and switch to flat heavy DB as my base exercise.

It looks like what i need to work on most are the side of my arms and pecs... My problem with pecs is my delts overpower them and are taking the bulk of the load when i train chest. I need advices. My arms have made great gains in size but still look small too.

Siderbar: The magical lamp had to go into retirement so getbig gets the raw deal. Yes... i know i look like fat shit.


you need to learn how to workout your chest with minimal delt involvement. study some anatomy charts, watch tons of videos of lean bodybuilders training chest and pay attention to how the chest contracts while the delts remain relatively still.  keep your shoulder blades pinched, back slightly arched, pull your arms forward by squeezing your chest.

 once you learn proper form focus on one exercise only. specialization breeds effeciency. flat bench is king, maybe a slight decline to hel;p take the shoulders out of it. focus on getting stronger every week. if your not, then you either did too much or too little. staying away from failure while keeping the weights heavy is a good way to avoid over training and keep gains progressing.

Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Disgusted on March 14, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
You do not need to "work" on any specific body part. Genetics will determine what you body ends up looking like. You just need to get bigger, bottom line. Side note, front latspread your hands go on the side of your obliques.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:46:55 PM
lookin sharp for offseason dude,
what do your arms measure in contest shape? and how much size do they lose while dieting
I have no clue.. They usually don't lose any size. Right now they are 18+ -18.5 consistently when i measure them but i don't feel they look that way. For the longest time they were stuck in the 17's but i got around it eventually. I have never gotten a chance to measure them pumped but id give a half inch max. They are probably 18.5-19 pumped.

I see stuff like this and think holy hell... 23!?!? How do you look like this at 23. Very unmotivational for an individual like myself. Maybe people are right... bodybuilders are getting worse and worse these days.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
You do not need to "work" on any specific body part. Genetics will determine what you body ends up looking like. You just need to get bigger, bottom line. Side note, front latspread your hands go on the side of your obliques.
I try to bring my elbows far forward as possible. Maybe i just need to push my waist in harder... ill try it.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: TrueGrit on March 14, 2011, 08:53:26 PM
Learning all the time what the judges want to see - the thong is disappearing further into the crack over time!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=369536.0;attach=406198;image)

Butt seriously Leafy...you have an awesome physique that is very well balanced.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
Learning all the time what the judges want to see - the thong is disappearing further into the crack over time!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=369536.0;attach=406198;image)

Butt seriously Leafy...you have an awesome physique that is very well balanced.
I heard one judge said he usually knocks people down a place when he sees that kind of stuff but because i was the only one that year with glute striations that he let it slide.... i don't know what the hell they want anymore. I actually though that was pretty conservative considering ive seen trunks much smaller then that on other competitors.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Matt C on March 14, 2011, 08:59:54 PM
Definitely the next Dennis Wolf!
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Army of One on March 14, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email.  I'll buy you lunch. 

Thats a pickup if I ever saw one.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Disgusted on March 14, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
I try to bring my elbows far forward as possible. Maybe i just need to push my waist in harder... ill try it.

NO!! Bringing them forward has zero effect on lat extension. Try this, stand relaxed hands to side, now flex your lats out as far as possible now bend you elbows without bring them forward and put your hands on your obliques.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 09:12:23 PM
I miss the blue dust ruffle.  :(

PS. Your delts do not "overpower"  your chest- not even close. Keep doing exactly what you've been doing. Change nothing.

PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email.  I'll buy you lunch. 
Will do! The blue dust ruffle has been put in premature retirement along with the magic lamp  :-\
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 14, 2011, 09:24:11 PM
 "... They are probably 18.5-19 pumped...".


So at a bodywieght of 208-210 you have 18.5 - 19 inch arms and you want our advice?

Young man, go to your room. You are grounded.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on March 14, 2011, 09:41:20 PM
Just keep on doing what your doing.

Dont let yourself put on anymore fat and keep gaining lean quality muscle.

And get your ass a job :)
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 14, 2011, 10:21:19 PM
Tommy Wishbone said it best and others on this Board did likewise.

I hope you 'listened'.

Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: hazbin on March 15, 2011, 12:00:25 AM
I have no clue.. They usually don't lose any size. Right now they are 18+ -18.5 consistently when i measure them but i don't feel they look that way. For the longest time they were stuck in the 17's but i got around it eventually. I have never gotten a chance to measure them pumped but id give a half inch max. They are probably 18.5-19 pumped.

I see stuff like this and think holy hell... 23!?!? How do you look like this at 23. Very unmotivational for an individual like myself. Maybe people are right... bodybuilders are getting worse and worse these days.
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i'm the same age as Kevin. i was 24 getting ready for the Canadian nationals when he and Paul Demayo were battling it out for the americans. they were unreal even though we were all the same height and weight.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Firemuscle on March 15, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
 I think he looked better when he was thin and ripped.

 Old pics look better than the new ones.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: KevinP85 on March 15, 2011, 12:31:54 AM
My advice is start upping the dosage, add gh if haven't already ;D

And.... Start learning how to pose. You are not making the most out of your physique "presenting," it like that.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: cephissus on March 15, 2011, 12:33:41 AM
dude can you give ME some advice on trap development?!  :o
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Meso_z on March 15, 2011, 01:25:08 AM
Definitely the next Dennis Wolf!
Now, is this good or bad?  ;D
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Meso_z on March 15, 2011, 01:27:41 AM
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i'm the same age as Kevin. i was 24 getting ready for the Canadian nationals when he and Paul Demayo were battling it out for the americans. they were unreal even though we were all the same height and weight.
Any idea what those guys took to look that different from the other guys at their age/height?
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: KevinP85 on March 15, 2011, 01:58:03 AM
Any idea what those guys took to look that different from the other guys at their age/height?


My guess is genetic response. Levrone had some of the best a long with flex.

Other factors include lots of drugs.

I don't know how this leafybug's dosages or what kind of hormones he's on, but I would go out on a limb and say he's average.

I give him credit for the commitment and dedication, but calling him the next Dennis Wolf is far fetched.

Guys like levrone, wheeler, Coleman, are still on tons of drugs obviously, but their tolerance and response is at the top as far as bbing is concerned. Top as in genetics. Very rare, although flex needed a new kidney in the end ;D
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: hazbin on March 15, 2011, 03:51:37 AM
Any idea what those guys took to look that different from the other guys at their age/height?

apparantly not, lol. actually my entire drug regiman was from old muscle builder power. i was completely in the dark. there werent advanced bodybuilders where i trained, so i was rediculusly conservitive. years later with the internet i used more, but from what i'm reading guys are now doing (and have heard what oldtimers did) i would have thought it pure suicide if i attempted
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 15, 2011, 04:56:53 AM
apparantly not, lol. actually my entire drug regiman was from old muscle builder power. i was completely in the dark. there werent advanced bodybuilders where i trained, so i was rediculusly conservitive. years later with the internet i used more, but from what i'm reading guys are now doing (and have heard what oldtimers did) i would have thought it pure suicide if i attempted

what was the drug regiman from muscle builder power? if you dont mind sharing
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: CalvinH on March 15, 2011, 05:42:00 AM
Here i am after a long lay over from hardcore bodybuilding. I was unemployed for about 3 months in the winter and now trying to get back on my feet. This is probably part of the reason for that lack in quality in my gains :(. This sadly is the biggest and leanest I've been ever. Here i am at about 208-210. I don't want to get any heavier then this this off season and i want to improve on the quality of it before i start dieting. I am about 23 and 26 weeks out (doing 2 shows). I am having a bit of a problem. I notice that my chest is pretty thick from the side but skimpy from the front especially during FDB and Front lat spreads. Im about to drop doing heavy smith inclines and switch to flat heavy DB as my base exercise.

It looks like what i need to work on most are the side of my arms and pecs... My problem with pecs is my delts overpower them and are taking the bulk of the load when i train chest. I need advices. My arms have made great gains in size but still look small too.

Siderbar: The magical lamp had to go into retirement so getbig gets the raw deal. Yes... i know i look like fat shit.


Epic the 70's show lamp and chair.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: no one on March 15, 2011, 06:28:43 AM
I have no clue.. They usually don't lose any size. Right now they are 18+ -18.5 consistently when i measure them but i don't feel they look that way. For the longest time they were stuck in the 17's but i got around it eventually. I have never gotten a chance to measure them pumped but id give a half inch max. They are probably 18.5-19 pumped.


bullshit.

your arms look too small for your body as it is and your only 210 pounds.

Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: local hero on March 15, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
good build, you do want to try and hit the front lat spread better tho as has been said before, you hit it like paul dillet, you want to have your hands in your waist and open your body up, like yates, haney et
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2011, 02:32:00 PM
my advice is to go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Master Blaster on March 15, 2011, 02:59:34 PM
my advice is to go fuck yourself

easy for you to say  ;)
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 15, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
bullshit.

your arms look too small for your body as it is and your only 210 pounds.


Thats a hair over 18 and I'm cold here. It isn't even around the biggest part of my arm. I agree with you though.... they don't look 18 unless i stand relaxed.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: cephissus on March 15, 2011, 05:14:58 PM
leafy, seriously, what do you do for your traps?!
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 15, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
leafy, seriously, what do you do for your traps?!
My traps are trained very short and heavy. I only do 6 sets. 4 barbell sets going 135, 225, 315, 405 all for 15 reps. Then i go to the dumbell rack and to 140s for 2 sets of 10-15. I think my traps are largely effected by my heavy pressing movements on the smith machine etc. I have gone as high as 325 on shoulder press for 8 reps.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Stavios on March 15, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
looking great leafy thug  8)
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on March 15, 2011, 05:55:43 PM
looking great leafy thug  8)
What are you talking about. You are bigger and leaner then me at 210  :)
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on March 15, 2011, 05:58:47 PM
What are you talking about. You are bigger and leaner then me at 210  :)

Bro get some self confidence.

You look good! You have a great physique and structure.

Stop coming on here for approval! Realize that you look good and know what you have to do to improve in the next 6 months and do it!
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Stavios on March 15, 2011, 06:04:28 PM
What are you talking about. You are bigger and leaner then me at 210  :)

fuck off  ;D
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Alex23 on March 15, 2011, 07:02:49 PM
Thats a hair over 18 and I'm cold here. It isn't even around the biggest part of my arm. I agree with you though.... they don't look 18 unless i stand relaxed.

Leafy laying down another solid ownage.

Good work brother, you've got an awesome struct... as glen said, be more confident, you look better than 95% of all internet posters!

GROW POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: ripitupbaby on March 15, 2011, 07:27:43 PM
Looking fantastic Leafy.  Stop whining ;D and dial it in like you know how to do.  It'll be awesome.   8)
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 15, 2011, 07:39:14 PM
Leafy laying down another solid ownage.

Good work brother, you've got an awesome struct... as glen said, be more confident, you look better than 95% of all internet posters!

GROW POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fat Panda would argue that the tape is in centimeters.

Looking good LB, don't change a thing imo.
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: cephissus on March 15, 2011, 07:51:57 PM
My traps are trained very short and heavy. I only do 6 sets. 4 barbell sets going 135, 225, 315, 405 all for 15 reps. Then i go to the dumbell rack and to 140s for 2 sets of 10-15. I think my traps are largely effected by my heavy pressing movements on the smith machine etc. I have gone as high as 325 on shoulder press for 8 reps.

Thanks for responding.  I guess I still just gotta figure out how to actually hit the traps.

Awesome physique btw!
Title: Re: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 16, 2011, 06:13:38 AM
shitload of gear to look like a praying mantess