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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kushtestgrowth on March 16, 2011, 12:39:53 AM
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and I thought i was cocky... HAHAHAHAH
i started reading this board because of gh15 and agree with most of the shit he says, so my question is what dosages is wheeler on here and is he using growth yet?
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he was so much all drugs than now hes "off" he needs tanks of oil to keep some size on his arms. big loser he is.
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This is an example of a guy who would be absolutly nothing without drugs.
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Good question.
and his upper body looks similar to his brother today's upper body (size wise)
and his brother doing pretty good job maintaining his mass for more than 10 years (i don't think he put on any pound in this period )
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I guess he didnt have the "perfect" organs to keep up with his "perfect" drugs....... PERFECT Douche right there.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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no gh, no slin. all aas. you dont need fakegh15 to tell you this.
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Too bad the best genetics (structure and gear respond) in the history of Bbing went to the lazyest and most idiotic Bber.
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I once saw a picture of him age 17 or so. Extremely thin and lean, Bruce Lee like. Incrdible he could built all that muscle. Had a myostatin mutation or so.
But did he actually improve his calves so much in a short time ? (the Shawn X-ray story)?
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This is an example of a guy who would be absolutly nothing without drugs.
he have good genetics,,,all drugs but body better than most getbiggers who here lift 20 years and wont get his natural status,,,
SUSTANEON 250
CLOMIX
NO GH
TRENABOLAN
TEST
WINSTROL
ALL HORMONES POPULAR IN 80S TO EARLY 90S,,WHEN WE ACTUALLY WORKED OUT UNLIKE THIS GENERATION NOTINGNESS,,
HE EXCELLENT RESPONDER TO HOROMONES,,,NO MUTATIONS YET FELLAS HE JUST STARTED IT HORMONES IN 99 AND INSULIN IN 2000,,HE GOOD RESPONDER
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I once saw a picture of him age 17 or so. Extremely thin and lean, Bruce Lee like. Incrdible he could built all that muscle. Had a myostatin mutation or so.
But he did actually got implants in his calves (the Shawn X-ray story).
;D and fixed.
(http://www.insolite.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ninja.jpg)
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im asking for the god of hormones opinion because the size of flex in this vid is not whats impressive in fact the mass he is carrying is attainable naturally however the quality and conditioning is from the use of drugs, obviously test prop, with one or two other compounds, im telling you this is not even close to hormonized to the max. u walk around looking like this and u will be knocking down all sorts of hoes night and day.
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Too bad the best genetics (structure and gear respond) in the history of Bbing went to the lazyest and most idiotic Bber.
LOL well put. He doesn't hold a single pound of real hard earned dense muscle mass. It was all just an illusion. Pretty easy to tell by watching all his old vids. Never saw him doing 600lb deads or squats (like a guy his size should have been able to do!) and never really saw him push it to the point of puking and passing out ect.
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unreal genetics.
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LOL well put. He doesn't hold a single pound of real hard earned dense muscle mass. It was all just an illusion. Pretty easy to tell by watching all his old vids. Never saw him doing 600lb deads or squats (like a guy his size should have been able to do!) and never really saw him push it to the point of puking and passing out ect.
not really needed but i do see your point.
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i'd say he is. wouldnt say for a long time, maybe a year or two years tops.
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LOL well put. He doesn't hold a single pound of real hard earned dense muscle mass. It was all just an illusion. Pretty easy to tell by watching all his old vids. Never saw him doing 600lb deads or squats (like a guy his size should have been able to do!) and never really saw him push it to the point of puking and passing out ect.
Charles Glass had to tell him to stop using heavy weights, this was in a 93 interview with Glass, and reiterated in Flex's book. Also, he trained with Chris Cormier who is known for handling heavy weights. I think the theory behind Glass' advice is that he had turned Pro, and there was no need to train too heavy and tear a muscle, which he has, and which can ruin one's competittive career.
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Rumors say Jim Quinn at the '93 Olympia measured Flex Wheeler's bodyfat at an astonishing 0.0% :o. Supposedly it was the lowest bodyfat measurement ever recorded ::).
Can anyone confirm? ;D
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I think the theory behind Glass' advice is that he had turned Pro, and there was no need to train too heavy and tear a muscle, which he has, and which can ruin one's competittive career.
I don't recall Flex ever tearing a muscle. Which muscle and when did that occur?
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Rumors say Jim Quinn at the '93 Olympia measured Flex Wheeler's bodyfat at an astonishing 0.0% :o. Supposedly it was the lowest bodyfat measurement ever recorded ::).
Can anyone confirm? ;D
Not this again.
If you understood anatomy and physiology, you would realize that this would be virtually impossible.
That rumour will never fade, will it?
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It cracks me up when people say good genetics. You can look great and take anabolics and look ok for a body builder. Or you can look like shit and have excellent response to drugs and look incredible. He's just a freak responder. Nothing more.
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do you really think people can tell what doses someone was using in a given video? Give me a break. It's like asking how much protein is flex wheeler using here in this vid, or looking at John Wayne and asking how many cigarettes was John Wayne smoking here in this video. Pull your head out.
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Charles Glass had to tell him to stop using heavy weights, this was in a 93 interview with Glass, and reiterated in Flex's book. Also, he trained with Chris Cormier who is known for handling heavy weights. I think the theory behind Glass' advice is that he had turned Pro, and there was no need to train too heavy and tear a muscle, which he has, and which can ruin one's competittive career.
It's true. Thing is you still have to train hard and what I've witnessed at gold's Venice is some of the laziest guys around. I mean do these guys really need a "trainer," like Charles Glass?? Seriously?
Ronnie, and Branch seem to be doing fine without him.
I mean the only thing you need is a "guru," that'll help you with the drugs pretty much.
There are no secrets to training at that level, only secret is drug usage and dosages.
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do you really think people can tell what doses someone was using in a given video? Give me a break. It's like asking how much protein is flex wheeler using here in this vid, or looking at John Wayne and asking how many cigarettes was John Wayne smoking here in this video. Pull your head out.
hahaha unfortunately you're wrong buddy, you've got a lot to learn in this game, you obviously dont know shit about drugs, anabolic or drugs in general. Can it be proven what someone takes? no but a trained eye or an accomplished user himself can u give u a rough idea of the compounds and dosages.
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I've been at this for well over 20 years idiot. A well trained eye can not tell doses. If you want to make a bet I will post pics and we will see if you can tell me what I am using and how much. Your the dumbest getbigger yet.
How much $$ would you like to bet? Ever heard of genetics or genetic response to drugs? We all respond different so it would be impossible to say exactly how much Flex was using back then. More than likely he was using lots of AAS. Most of the big boys do.
Ask me any question you have about AAS and I will answer them with truth. Saying I don't know AAS is like saying your into women.
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Charles Glass had to tell him to stop using heavy weights, this was in a 93 interview with Glass, and reiterated in Flex's book. Also, he trained with Chris Cormier who is known for handling heavy weights. I think the theory behind Glass' advice is that he had turned Pro, and there was no need to train too heavy and tear a muscle, which he has, and which can ruin one's competittive career.
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That's what, 455?
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looks to be 455
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I've been at this for well over 20 years idiot. A well trained eye can not tell doses. If you want to make a bet I will post pics and we will see if you can tell me what I am using and how much. Your the dumbest getbigger yet.
How much $$ would you like to bet? Ever heard of genetics or genetic response to drugs? We all respond different so it would be impossible to say exactly how much Flex was using back then. More than likely he was using lots of AAS. Most of the big boys do.
Ask me any question you have about AAS and I will answer them with truth. Saying I don't know AAS is like saying your into women.
nice try loser, im glad at ur accomplishment at being involved with bodybuilding and taking steroids for 20 years, i didnt read your whole post but ok post your pics it would probably be a good laugh and two, flex isnt big in that video, thats the whole point to determine what he was taking to be at that level. calm down buddy, already threatening me with your pics lol i would bet my last dollar i look better than u and im 23 years old.
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That's what, 455?
I think so , Flex was strong and hungry when he first turned pro after the accident he wasn't ever the same
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looks to be 455
Inclining 455, and we don't know how many reps, and if the pic was taken by Chris Lund, then we know he doesn't like to use fake weights (remember The Fux Incident)
ND, after his accident, he even said that he went to the 1994 Mr. O and he didn't think that he could compete with them...his confidence was shook...
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nice try loser, im glad at ur accomplishment at being involved with bodybuilding and taking steroids for 20 years, i didnt read your whole post but ok post your pics it would probably be a good laugh and two, flex isnt big in that video, thats the whole point to determine what he was taking to be at that level. calm down buddy, already threatening me with your pics lol i would bet my last dollar i look better than u and im 23 years old.
put up the bet and I will prove you wrong. You will also post pics now.
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he is big enough to be using lots of AAS, and I guarantee he is much bigger than you. I guarantee flex didnt get that big on a 500mg cycle.
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lol he actually isn't much bigger than me i dont need to post pics to confirm this buddy but put it this way, im 6'0 199 on the dot right now at no more than 10 percent just eating whatever is easy and getting fucked up. he looks better right now because one, im not on anything and two his conditioning is alot better. can i be flex wheeler? no but i can look like him in the gym here easily... but to say this is something special is retarded. first off i read a cpl of your posts i cant even speak to you, a gram of test, 600 mgs of deca and a cpl dbols a day to you is a small cycle? lol you definitely look like shit or are just big as fuk with no seperation. and FLEX easily looks like he is on that much test or less here, i can look *like* this on 400mgs a week of hg test prop
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he is big enough to be using lots of AAS, and I guarantee he is much bigger than you. I guarantee flex didnt get that big on a 500mg cycle.
wait a moment i thought we couldn't say anything about dosages from a video?
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lol he actually isn't much bigger than me i dont need to post pics to confirm this buddy but put it this way, im 6'0 199 on the dot right now at no more than 10 percent just eating whatever is easy and getting fucked up. he looks better right now because one, im not on anything and two his conditioning is alot better. can i be flex wheeler? no but i can look like him in the gym here easily... but to say this is something special is retarded. first off i read a cpl of your posts i cant even speak to you, a gram of test, 600 mgs of deca and a cpl dbols a day to you is a small cycle? lol you definitely look like shit or are just big as fuk with no seperation. and FLEX easily looks like he is on that much test or less here, i can look *like* this on 400mgs a week of hg test prop
What made Flex look the way he did was his genetic response to gear and his genetically full round muscle bellies. The only person to come close to looking like him is Melvin Anthony---they have similar genetics...
How much Flex was using in the late 80s, early 90s is only up to speculation---only he knows...and then, the quality of the goods was probably a lot better than today...
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ok,,please flex was on enough to look insane for a 20/22 yr old,by the time he won the usa's he looked like a top pro at that point.nobody could just look like him by taking the same or similar amounts,he was yr in and out for 15 or so yrs with incredible shape and muscle bellies to grow on constant hormones.he did n't need to push any harder than most plainly due to his great muscle shape,tone,fullness and small joints.
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ok,,please flex was on enough to look insane for a 20/22 yr old,by the time he won the usa's he looked like a top pro at that point.nobody could just look like him by taking the same or similar amounts,he was yr in and out for 15 or so yrs with incredible shape and muscle bellies to grow on constant hormones.he did n't need to push any harder than most plainly due to his great muscle shape,tone,fullness and small joints.
This is what ppl say who have never used drugs or looked good doing it or that even knows a semi decent competitive bodybuilder
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I don't recall Flex ever tearing a muscle. Which muscle and when did that occur?
Parker, can you please tell me what muscle Flex is said to have torn?
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This is what ppl say who have never used drugs or looked good doing it or that even knows a semi decent competitive bodybuilder
i understand u bro,but flex was no semi decent competetive bber..when mag's or when it was popular muscle sport usa or that other espn bber show from 90's calls an up and comer a wheeler or flex clone or flex like u know your build is unique.wheeler had that.
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he have good genetics,,,all drugs but body better than most getbiggers who here lift 20 years and wont get his natural status,,,
SUSTANEON 250
CLOMIX
NO GH
TRENABOLAN
TEST
WINSTROL
ALL HORMONES POPULAR IN 80S TO EARLY 90S,,WHEN WE ACTUALLY WORKED OUT UNLIKE THIS GENERATION NOTINGNESS,,
HE EXCELLENT RESPONDER TO HOROMONES,,,NO MUTATIONS YET FELLAS HE JUST STARTED IT HORMONES IN 99 AND INSULIN IN 2000,,HE GOOD RESPONDER
Don't forget the SEO.
THE BEEF
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not really needed but i do see your point.
Bodybuilding wise no its not needed i'm just a strong believer in being as strong as you look and find it more impressive. And sorry I forgot, bodybuilding is just a gay fantasy posedown where they don't bother to even demonstrate athletics or strength. Ahh how bodybuilding has devolved into a sparkly thong show since the old days..
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Parker, can you please tell me what muscle Flex is said to have torn?
In his 93 Hardbody vid, he is training arms, and he says to Charles Glass about, "tearing a muscle", or "injuries", I forgot the exact terms...In his book, which came out in 2003, he talks about what it feels like to tear a bicep, and to tear a pec. Now, either he has seen it, or it has happened to him, but he was very discriptive, like it has happened to him.....but from the vid, he was concerned about having a injury...
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Bodybuilding wise no its not needed i'm just a strong believer in being as strong as you look and find it more impressive. And sorry I forgot, bodybuilding is just a gay fantasy posedown where they don't bother to even demonstrate athletics or strength. Ahh how bodybuilding has devolved into a sparkly thong show since the old days..
well typically the better you look condition and quality wise the weaker you are so its makes sense that elite bodybuilders are not stronger than your average bloated 19 year old linebacker. for example i was incline pressing 100's at 19 for 10 but didnt have the quality or density i have now where i basically use close to the same weight. also if you're "all drugs" and your tendons and joints are weak as fuck and you're bone structure to begin with is frail, you would be a moron to try and push the envelope with weights.
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Don't forget the SEO.
THE BEEF
BEEF,,not yet he did not get introduced to it until late 2000 or so from chris aceto introduced to him to it,,,
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shawn ray was better
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well typically the better you look condition and quality wise the weaker you are so its makes sense that elite bodybuilders are not stronger than your average bloated 19 year old linebacker. for example i was incline pressing 100's at 19 for 10 but didnt have the quality or density i have now where i basically use close to the same weight. also if you're "all drugs" and your tendons and joints are weak as fuck and you're bone structure to begin with is frail, you would be a moron to try and push the envelope with weights.
Well usually someone who is all drugs hasn't spent years and years in the gym developing muscle density, tendon/joint strength and blows up quickly, bypassing all the the hard work required to obtain what I just mentioned. Looking at Flex Wheeler now, tells me that he didn't spend years in the gym building a solid foundation or any 'real' muscle and is reduced to what he looks like now. If he wasn't such a lazy egomaniac and busted his ass for a few years before he used hormones, he wouldn't need to inject synthol to get noticed. I know, how dare me talk shit about the guy who changed his name to Flex Wheeler ect ect..
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he was a kickboxer first so the guy knew a little about training..... he has major issues that cannot be assessed by ppl on message boards but in my opinion he did it the right way if he knew that he wanted to be a bodybuilder.. bodybuilding=hormones and how u look on them and thats it.. what would the point of him to train natural and waste time compared to the results he could get in weeks.. yeah he maybe would have still been a beast as a natural if he ate right and dedicated to the gym 100 percent but if u even watched the video at the end he says he doesnt even like weight training he wouldnt do it anymore if he didnt have too...he was a lazy cocky kid like me and every one else i know.. it doesnt matter the fucking generation kids are cocky and want quick results.
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he was a kickboxer first so the guy knew a little about training..... he has major issues that cannot be assessed by ppl on message boards but in my opinion he did it the right way if he knew that he wanted to be a bodybuilder.. bodybuilding=hormones and how u look on them and thats it.. what would the point of him to train natural and waste time compared to the results he could get in weeks.. yeah he maybe would have still been a beast as a natural if he ate right and dedicated to the gym 100 percent but if u even watched the video at the end he says he doesnt even like weight training he wouldnt do it anymore if he didnt have too...he was a lazy cocky kid like me and every one else i know.. it doesnt matter the fucking generation kids are cocky and want quick results.
Yes everyone in this generation is so lazy its pathetic. I know alot of the kids juicing at the gym hate weight training and any sort of physical effort, but they still for some reason want to be bodybuilders. They just wanna do the magic pill and skip the eating ect. And if Flex wasn't so lazy he could have still had a good natural physique these days instead of trying to fake size using synthol.
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Not this again.
If you understood anatomy and physiology, you would realize that this would be virtually impossible.
That rumour will never fade, will it?
You mean the rumour that Jim Quinn could actually count ??
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Plumpster used a home gym and look at his results
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Rumors say Jim Quinn at the '93 Olympia measured Flex Wheeler's bodyfat at an astonishing 0.0% :o. Supposedly it was the lowest bodyfat measurement ever recorded ::).
Can anyone confirm? ;D
oh no, here we go again.
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What made Flex look the way he did was his genetic response to gear and his genetically full round muscle bellies. The only person to come close to looking like him is Melvin Anthony---they have similar genetics...
How much Flex was using in the late 80s, early 90s is only up to speculation---only he knows...and then, the quality of the goods was probably a lot better than today...
Comparing Melvin to Flex is like comparing a civic to a Bentley.
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Rumors say Jim Quinn at the '93 Olympia measured Flex Wheeler's bodyfat at an astonishing 0.0% :o. Supposedly it was the lowest bodyfat measurement ever recorded ::).
Can anyone confirm? ;D
From what I heard Jim was just reporting a measurement that had been taken sometime earlier at Venice Golds. If memory serves correct it was Billy Smith that was wielding the Calipers.
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From what I heard Jim was just reporting a measurement that had been taken sometime earlier at Venice Golds. If memory serves correct it was Billy Smith that was wielding the Calipers.
I REMEMBER THIS DAY FELLA,,,,
jim quinn measurment flex wheeler with calipers and his skin was so tight,,,he couldnt pinch it with it and it came out to 0.00 percent,,calipers are still at golds gym behind the counter that billy still works at,,,though fancier now,,but its still there trust me,, next time you go into that venice golds ASK FOR THE SPECIAL CALIPERS THEY WILL KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT AND IF ITS STEPHANICE THAT BIOTCH TELL HER AN OLD FRIEND SAID HER VAGINNNA STILL SMELLS :D
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I believe this
jim said it in the 93 mr o commentary that billy smith measured flex in golds venice at 0.0% bf, the lowest recorded measurement ever at golds (I wonder if there were other "unrecorded" measurements of -0.5%..?)
so if jim said billy measured it, and flex was involved, has to be true!
p.s.
subsequently jim spoke to a ninja, and he confirmed that just before the accident, flex was in the best shape of his life!
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BEEF,,not yet he did not get introduced to it until late 2000 or so from chris aceto introduced to him to it,,,
Good point.
THE BEEF
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Comparing Melvin to Flex is like comparing a civic to a Bentley.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd-tguQfqZuFdXNNCNPxAkpT8UXfQD1PYiXMxcfhINJrMTUFKDLz2jQB8Z)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Flex_Wheeler/Flex_Wheeler_051.jpg)
(http://www.mybodybeats.com/workout/artwork_url/57/medium/MelvinAnthony-FreakyQuads-IFBBPROGym.jpg?1255983245)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLtdkhla0gy9lkKnmHwFKVHMx19R37pI3RKaq3SWgkK2xBxkebtA)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTertea_m6STUnokASAnpDKEtUXaIOowjPFVzxyH_a4njSXxzBC)
Very Brian Buchanan-sque
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqKZ_lYpJ5VXPHpXW8Qe_QSAECVTrnyUT3k_VNFFBWCbBUhB2z)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3fZ4joyFqfycTXnza6xStYYRerFtZ0uFjltau8XalWMQR7JwDaA)
Very similar physique,basically same taper, full muscle bellies, light in the chest area...like The Bentley quality checkers didn't do their jobs. except Flex had more polish...and came in shape more, Melvin just seems to not be of the "come in condition" mindset
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I believe this
jim said it in the 93 mr o commentary that billy smith measured flex in golds venice at 0.0% bf, the lowest recorded measurement ever at golds (I wonder if there were other "unrecorded" measurements of -0.5%..?)
so if jim said billy measured it, and flex was involved, has to be true!
p.s.
subsequently jim spoke to a ninja, and he confirmed that just before the accident, flex was in the best shape of his life!
my God....this bit was squeezed dry of all funny 5 years ago....let it go already.
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my God....this bit was squeezed dry of all funny 5 years ago....let it go already.
I'm sorry its not to your taste, Groink..
btw, congrats on being appointed captain of the humour police
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way too short
delts n quads way too big for chest
maybe back too
good arms but shorter than arnold nowhere near arnold
very arrogant deulsional dickweed
thats why never was that big
if he was humble might been liek franco columbo if he worked hard
symmetry not that great
and hes a shorty jeesh
bob paris owns him
zane
blonde bomber
etc etc etc
bigtime lame ego jeesh get the fuck outa town shorty
mega roider too
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I'm sorry its not to your taste, Groink..
btw, congrats on being appointed captain of the humour police
what do you do for an encore....who's on first? ? ::)