ok,,please flex was on enough to look insane for a 20/22 yr old,by the time he won the usa's he looked like a top pro at that point.nobody could just look like him by taking the same or similar amounts,he was yr in and out for 15 or so yrs with incredible shape and muscle bellies to grow on constant hormones.he did n't need to push any harder than most plainly due to his great muscle shape,tone,fullness and small joints.