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What do you think is the best regimen for a natural? Ectomorph and Endomorph.
How should they train? Rep ranges? Volume?
What kind of diet should they follow? Do naturals need high protien and 8 meals per day, or just a standard balanced 3 meals per day diet?
What kind of results can they expect? Do you think naturals max out quick?
I've seen you talking a lot of hardcore bodybuilding and you obviously know your shit on that. I've never seen you talk much about natural lifting though. What do you think of all this?
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natural bodybuilding is not gh15 approved. :-\
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best regimen for natural?
no life
no girlfriend
no going out to nightclubs
stay home, eat and sleep on time (set alarm on watch).
when you become an albino because you havnt seen daylight for 10 years, you know you're doing alright, lol.
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This should be interesting ;)
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there is no natural bodybuilding...as soon as you touch a dumbell you are hormonized by the sweat of the juice monkey that used da weight previous...ABSOLUTLY NOONE IS A NATURAL BORDYBUILDER...this id=s myth created by the americano spin machine along with trash whores.... L dawg approved
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agree, i rather hear gh talk about other stuff than steroids.
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best regimen for natural?
no life
no girlfriend
no going out to nightclubs
stay home, eat and sleep on time (set alarm on watch).
when you become an albino because you havnt seen daylight for 10 years, you know you're doing alright, lol.
if you take gh you can fck americano whores and smoke chrondo and grow like weed if right genetic is there
ghona trenbolna testaterona = yoy streal natural boys girlfriend and show her a real night
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as a natural, it doesnt really matter what you do.
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agree, i rather hear gh talk about other stuff than steroids.
I like to stuff your mom.
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What do you think is the best regimen for a natural? Ectomorph and Endomorph.
How should they train? Rep ranges? Volume?
What kind of diet should they follow? Do naturals need high protien and 8 meals per day, or just a standard balanced 3 meals per day diet?
What kind of results can they expect? Do you think naturals max out quick?
I've seen you talking a lot of hardcore bodybuilding and you obviously know your shit on that. I've never seen you talk much about natural lifting though. What do you think of all this?
Your mom has great natural tits.
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best regimen for natural?
no life
no going out to nightclubs
stay home, eat and sleep on time (set alarm on watch).
when you become an albino because you havnt seen daylight for 10 years, you know you're doing alright, lol.
This is me except I have a wife and kid.
Black, you've had the info laid out in front of you tons of times on how to get amazing results as a natty. I hear consistency and intensity are pretty good for results...
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no life, live like a monk and very good genetics.... if you havnt got the latter youl have wasted years of your life building a body you could have built in a few months on the sauce....
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Im natural on paper.
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agree, i rather hear gh talk about other stuff than steroids.
Like his PM box is full of questions about "natural" bodybuilding...
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as ecto you'll never be big, as endo you'll never be lean with muscles
eat good and sleep good
if you're not meso you can go fuck yourself...
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5'10 190lbs @8% max [1]
[1] Page 827 of Bible
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5'9" 187 @sub-5=Mr. Frank Zane
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Gh15 isnt qualified to speak on anything natural.
in order to make some comments on something, you need to be aware of its existence.
Gh15 is not aware of anything that hasnt got drugs in it.
still, that doesnt seem to stop him being the self proclaimed expert on the subject.
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Well, he supposedly trained a few lifetime natural fellas in italia
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He trained natural for years according by his own admission.
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5'9" 187 @sub-5=Mr. Frank Zane
minus the insane hardness zane had due to him not being clean.
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Your mom has great natural tits.
Actually she does. They are like D cups or something. Pretty nice.
I saw a picture of her from when she was 20 years old and almost had to crack one off right there.
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Actually she does. They are like D cups or something. Pretty nice.
I saw a picture of her from when she was 20 years old and almost had to crack one off right there.
lol. share the pic.
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wast of time my freinds,,,,,, I tell you ounce I say it last time here!,,,, NATURAL BODYBUILDING IS A WASTE OF FUVKING TIME,, get this through your americano heads,,,, faster you know faster you realize,,,, want to get in shape play football now you get in shape, and when Gh15 say futbol I no mean americano crap with bunch of fat americano fatass running around in helmet,,,, I talkng bout futbol with feet yes as you call it SOCKER,, you never see sauccer player out of shape, ever!! Even if succer player has fat bloofy genes like the Jayson fella he never out of shape!!.... Natural bodybuilding is like how I sey it so you can understand better,,,, Natural bodybuild is like falling in love with the Simpson, no not murderer Sipmson I talking about amreicana bimbo fat Simpson whore,,,, this type of whore offer nothing for you,,,, only good to look at once in a while and only when skinny,,,, no true brain,, no real geniune personality,,,, no good homemakde wife material,,,, and minute you turn your back on this whore she become fat ugly but still no personality whore!! That my friends is what natural bobdybuilding is, only look good skinny, only sometimes whith shirt off, but minute naturual bodybuilder try to look big,,,,, he become fat like the brewster kid,,, For the last time
LEAN NOTURAL BODYBULIDER = ANOREXIC FELLA
BIG NOTRUAL BODYBUILDER = FAT ASS
HERE YOU HAVE IT MY FRIENDS, WRITE IT DOWN AND TAKE NOTE
Heavy Hitter Approved.
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wast of time my freinds,,,,,, I tell you ounce I say it last time here!,,,, NATURAL BODYBUILDING IS A WASTE OF FUVKING TIME,, get this through your americano heads,,,, faster you know faster you realize,,,, want to get in shape play football now you get in shape, and when Gh15 say futbol I no mean americano crap with bunch of fat americano fatass running around in helmet,,,, I talkng bout futbol with feet yes as you call it SOCKER,, you never see sauccer player out of shape, ever!! Even if succer player has fat bloofy genes like the Jayson fella he never out of shape!!.... Natural bodybuilding is like how I sey it so you can understand better,,,, Natural bodybuild is like falling in love with the Simpson, no not murderer Sipmson I talking about amreicana bimbo fat Simpson whore,,,, this type of whore offer nothing for you,,,, only good to look at once in a while and only when skinny,,,, no true brain,, no real geniune personality,,,, no good homemakde wife material,,,, and minute you turn your back on this whore she become fat ugly but still no personality whore!! That my friends is what natural bobdybuilding is, only look good skinny, only sometimes whith shirt off, but minute naturual bodybuilder try to look big,,,,, he become fat like the brewster kid,,, For the last time
LEAN NOTURAL BODYBULIDER = ANOREXIC FELLA
BIG NOTRUAL BODYBUILDER = FAT ASS
HERE YOU HAVE IT MY FRIENDS, WRITE IT DOWN AND TAKE NOTE
Heavy Hitter Approved.
I guess this is the answer then!
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lol. share the pic.
x2
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Who goes to the gym saying: "I want to be a natural bodybuilder" -- and if so, where do they come up with that shit. Steve Blechfag stopped publishing Kai's "all natural MD" years ago.
Bye, bye went Bill Phillips, his stupid "natural" brother and all of their over-priced EAS lies.
Phillips wrote a book and kept trying. I think his largest (pun) consumers were bitches and their bitch boyfriends so they could participate in his bullshit "before and after" scam.
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Yeah I know that "natural bodybuilding" is quite the joke to most folks here, but the thing is even less than 10 added pounds of pure lean muscle tissue can make a HUGE difference in one's physique. Yeah I know that 7 or 8 pounds don't sound like much, but when you consider the fact that the average 160 pound male carries maybe 40 pounds of his bodyweight in the form of muscle tissue with the rest of his weight being skin, bones, internal organs, etc. Then this 7 or 8 pounds becomes even more significant, as it is roughly a 25% increase in mass.
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Yeah I know that "natural bodybuilding" is quite the joke to most folks here, but the thing is even less than 10 added pounds of pure lean muscle tissue can make a HUGE difference in one's physique. Yeah I know that 7 or 8 pounds don't sound like much, but when you consider the fact that the average 160 pound male carries maybe 40 pounds of his bodyweight in the form of muscle tissue with the rest of his weight being skin, bones, internal organs, etc. Then this 7 or 8 pounds becomes even more significant, as it is roughly a 25% increase in mass.
so your cool with hitting the gym day in day out year in year out all to weigh 167-168lbs...
I'm not saying theres not decent built naturals out there but they have a decent build because they have the genetics...90% of naturals look like shit and there always telling someone how good there gonna look someday...but that someday never comes until they use gear...
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As a natural I don't think you can be a true bodybuilder. But you can maximize your muscle and leans. You can look great as a natural, you just have to settle with a swimmer's build instead of bulk.
I think that as a natural. You just eat a balanced diet. Lift a couple times per week, and that's all you really need. You'll reach you're genetic limits no matter how you eat. As long as you train consistently for a long time.
I wanted to see what GH15 thinks of it, but I guess he ain't my homeboy like I thought.
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I understand why godofhormonoes doesīnt respond. Bodybuiliding as a whole is so far from natural even though no hormonoes per se are being added. The body does not naturally want larger muscles, it will for itīs life try to keep homeostatis. The trainer have to do unnatural things eat every 2 hours, train til puking and add in synthetic supplements that are "natural" like creatine, china protein powders, legal hormonoes etc. Being natural is only a matter of THE LAW. As long as your supplements are being legal, they are considered natural too. Atleast for the mind of the natural bodybuilder, who is far from having a natural mind. BB=HORMONOES
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GH15's silence in this thread is very disappointing, us mere mortals would like some advice to train without hormones.
i just fuckin saw the damn posting,,let me read it i will answer
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What do you think is the best regimen for a natural? Ectomorph and Endomorph.
How should they train? Rep ranges? Volume?
What kind of diet should they follow? Do naturals need high protien and 8 meals per day, or just a standard balanced 3 meals per day diet?
What kind of results can they expect? Do you think naturals max out quick?
I've seen you talking a lot of hardcore bodybuilding and you obviously know your shit on that. I've never seen you talk much about natural lifting though. What do you think of all this?
training should always be heavy wether natural or not,,it should be heavy within ofcourse the level of bodyfat the natural or the hormonized lifter is ,,if you are single digit bodyfat you better believe it that you dont need to lift as if you were 15% because you will get hurt if natural,,if hormonized it is somewhat diff and you can still lift heavy but work with head and not always lift heavy the lower bodyfat you are on hormones the more smart you should train and the more stress your muscle should feel from even lower weights,,
now to the natural lifter,,not many around but to the few there are....
training shoudl be heavy if in the doubles ,,and heavy to moderate as in cycling if in the singles digits,,the training intensity is always less with naturals because they can not keep up due to no hormones in system ,,so inorder to develop muscle as natural the intensity should not be super fast and the lifting should always be proper and cycle as in from heavy to moderate and just change fevery couple weeks ,,always change
rep ranges always 6-12 with everything heavy or not heavy ,,you are bodybuilder not a balerina or marathon runner,,6-10 upper body 6-12 and at times 15 lower body ,,again depenmding on the weight you are using and other factors such as rest you had ,,food intake ,,many things matter greatly for naturals as in true naturals
NOW ,,NATURALS ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THEIR MEALS ON THE SPOT EVERY MEAL NO SKIPPIN NO BALONIE,,hormonized can skip meals steroids and gh are very very fogiving hormones,,we can even skip meals by good 6 hours and be ok sometimes even longer and be perfectly fine,, with the natural its a no no ,,every meal should be small and should be tsaken 2-3 hours apart ,,it should nto be over feeding because the natural will shit it right on in the morning in 7 increments upon waking up ,,
5=6 meals are ok for naturals ,,not big meals but small portions that the body can utelize ,, and still it wont utelize all of the food but it will be better than if you ate big portions and over fed and shit it all like many naturals
results,,ummm results is vary depending on how malnurished you were when started or how fat you were it all depends,,a skinny guy that come from 130 lb that actualy need to be 175....can gain up to 175 and then some to be 180lb so he wil say he gained 50lb but in reality not the case,,he just gained to his genetic capacity since that what he would be if he ate the meals his mama told him when he was 10 and didnt want to eat her strudel,,naturals sualy max themselves within first 2-3 years of serious training usually 2,,then they are stuck forever or go on hormones,,
a true natural bodybuilr with good structure will have the following mesurments offseason and on stage
5'10 185 9-10% offseason ,,going on stage 165-170 5-6%depending on how much water he held,,that is very very good natural!
6'2-6'3 natural will be 210-220 10% offseason and go on stage 195-200lb 5-6% depending on water held
those are natural numbers,,nothing more is natural ,,many less is natural ,,but thoe are very good numbers genetic wize for true natural bodybuildrs that sitll exist but they are very very few
gh15 approved
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I'm sorry God, and no disrespect to you, but I have to disagree with you on the "diet" aspect. I made some pretty damn good gains eating only 3 meals daily with more than 6 hours between meals many times. Also, I have just lost 2% or 3% of bodyfat in one week, and I have the visual proof to go with it. I have a thread in the training logs of this site and it's titled My 3 Phase Project. So if you can be bothered go over there and check it out, or maybe someone can link that thread up here, coz I can't do that through ma phone.
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wast of time my freinds,,,,,, I tell you ounce I say it last time here!,,,, NATURAL BODYBUILDING IS A WASTE OF FUVKING TIME,, get this through your americano heads,,,, faster you know faster you realize,,,, want to get in shape play football now you get in shape, and when Gh15 say futbol I no mean americano crap with bunch of fat americano fatass running around in helmet,,,, I talkng bout futbol with feet yes as you call it SOCKER,, you never see sauccer player out of shape, ever!! Even if succer player has fat bloofy genes like the Jayson fella he never out of shape!!.... Natural bodybuilding is like how I sey it so you can understand better,,,, Natural bodybuild is like falling in love with the Simpson, no not murderer Sipmson I talking about amreicana bimbo fat Simpson whore,,,, this type of whore offer nothing for you,,,, only good to look at once in a while and only when skinny,,,, no true brain,, no real geniune personality,,,, no good homemakde wife material,,,, and minute you turn your back on this whore she become fat ugly but still no personality whore!! That my friends is what natural bobdybuilding is, only look good skinny, only sometimes whith shirt off, but minute naturual bodybuilder try to look big,,,,, he become fat like the brewster kid,,, For the last time
LEAN NOTURAL BODYBULIDER = ANOREXIC FELLA
BIG NOTRUAL BODYBUILDER = FAT ASS
HERE YOU HAVE IT MY FRIENDS, WRITE IT DOWN AND TAKE NOTE
Heavy Hitter Approved.
rofl
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wast of time my freinds,,,,,, I tell you ounce I say it last time here!,,,, NATURAL BODYBUILDING IS A WASTE OF FUVKING TIME,, get this through your americano heads,,,, faster you know faster you realize,,,, want to get in shape play football now you get in shape, and when Gh15 say futbol I no mean americano crap with bunch of fat americano fatass running around in helmet,,,, I talkng bout futbol with feet yes as you call it SOCKER,, you never see sauccer player out of shape, ever!! Even if succer player has fat bloofy genes like the Jayson fella he never out of shape!!.... Natural bodybuilding is like how I sey it so you can understand better,,,, Natural bodybuild is like falling in love with the Simpson, no not murderer Sipmson I talking about amreicana bimbo fat Simpson whore,,,, this type of whore offer nothing for you,,,, only good to look at once in a while and only when skinny,,,, no true brain,, no real geniune personality,,,, no good homemakde wife material,,,, and minute you turn your back on this whore she become fat ugly but still no personality whore!! That my friends is what natural bobdybuilding is, only look good skinny, only sometimes whith shirt off, but minute naturual bodybuilder try to look big,,,,, he become fat like the brewster kid,,, For the last time
LEAN NOTURAL BODYBULIDER = ANOREXIC FELLA
BIG NOTRUAL BODYBUILDER = FAT ASS
HERE YOU HAVE IT MY FRIENDS, WRITE IT DOWN AND TAKE NOTE
Heavy Hitter Approved.
lol
very good lol
gh15 approved
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Naturally approved
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Naturally approved
the thickness of skip lacour actual muscle especialy from the side... lol to claim he is natural or clean lol ,,i dont know how he look in the mirror ,,i realy think in americana as long as you shut your mouth and admit to nothing you are pretty much safe,,
power of freedom my friends,,
no wonder no one is get arrested over there for personal usage,,everyone just keep mouth shut and all naturalos...clean hard work like croach lol
this is embaresement of a society what you becmae
gh15 approved
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so your cool with hitting the gym day in day out year in year out all to weigh 167-168lbs...
I'm not saying theres not decent built naturals out there but they have a decent build because they have the genetics...90% of naturals look like shit and there always telling someone how good there gonna look someday...but that someday never comes until they use gear...
There's more to lifting weights, resistance training, then simply bodybuilding, i.e., trying to build bigger muscles. It seems that bodybuilding has evolved to the point where the whole idea of health and fitness is lost. To promote and develop health and physical fitness there is nothing better then a properly applied resistance training program. Not jogging, not step aerobics, Tae bo, Pliates, yoga,.... nothing.
There is nothing that matches a resistance program where you train all the major muscle groups at a fairly quick pace at least 2-3 times a week to develop and maintain muscle tone and cardio vascular fitness.
Never quit training. Always do something. It doesn't matter if your muscles get bigger or not. If you do nothing then after about the age 30 yrs your body just slowly loses muscle mass and tone. It's the best thing you can do for your body.
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Wise words from pellius and god!
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You are right pellius, there are MANY ASPECTS to training aside from getting bigger muscles. For example, feeling great and having very high energy levels, being extremely fit, getting and staying lean, improving your health, etc. Also, everyone has different goals from their training, and believe it or not, not everyone wants to have massive muscles ;D